Tiger I Restoration Update with Curator Rob Cogan: New Paint!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- An update of the Tiger 712 project and a bit of its background in the NACC collection as well as the next steps.
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Thanks for sharing the restoration of Tiger 712. Thanks to Rod and crew for saving history, and the memory of our service men and women in the past. Love your channel. Cheers ✌✌
Jesus...forget about the holes cut in it. The REAL painful part was when you mentioned how many Tiger I's, II's AND Panthers those fools sent to the scrap yard! I actually wish I'd never even heard about that! That's soul-crushing for this history buff.
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Turning Tiger 712 into a teaching tool may have saved it from the scrap yard. You folks are working on a fantastic collection. I sure hope that I can visit one day.
Nice to see these vehicles get the respect they deserve.
In the recent videos we have travelled from the Netherlands restoration and preservation to the United States restoration and preservation. Superb stuff. Well done and thank you.....Off to Sweden to see Stefan at Arsenalen next maybe...?, Again.
Thanks Rob and Sofi, very cool I look forward to hopefully the museum will open to the public.
Very interesting update. This collection is mindblowing and as a German I am envious :)
Its a good thing that the US Army did preserve these tanks and I have come to the conclusion a few years ago that cut away tanks are a great teaching tool for tank topics. Which is why I am glad that there are cut aways of Leopard 1 and Marder in the German Tank Museum.
So no angry emails from me. Just a thank you for the good work :)
Sofi, please tell Rob he and his tiny crew have done an absolutely AWESOME job with everything they have done so far. 👍👍👍👍👍👍 And he and his staff are justified in totally disregarding the ignorant trolls who totally do not understand the nature of the NACC, and the fact that many of these incredible artifacts and displays would most likely have been scrapped long ago if the founder of the NACC had not done what he did in creating teaching tools, even if they had to become cut-aways. I look forward to getting a chance to visit during the next (first in the new building) open house. Thanks Sofi for being a conduit to Rob and adding updates about the NACC, the vehicle moves, new building(s), etc.
Love what you cover and the enthusiasm you share as well 👍
I'm glad you dig it, thank you
This is turning out to be such a great museum, having an open Tiger tank is such a great opportunity, as Mr. Cogan said people are very interested in looking at how the tank works on the inside, and a nice "factory fresh" or perhaps operational condition interior would no doubt be fascinating to many people. Personally my only issue with the vehicle is the absence of exhaust pipes, German tank exhausts are the best looking and without them the tank looks weird, I assume however they have them in storage somewhere.
If they are not stored they will have some made I'm sure.
You beast, you brute, disemboweling that poor innocent cat. LOL..... The sad part is that nearly every museum that I'm aware of was/is under-resourced and thus forced to leave artifacts out in the elements to deteriorate. The people who allocate the funds have hard choices to make, should we spend money to restore the past or invest it in new equipment. Often forgotten is the fact that most of the time these museum pieces were "purchased" with the lives, the blood, and the sweat of the combat troops who risked their lives to accomplish a mission which resulted in a trophy. This makes these trophies priceless and worthy of whatever it takes to properly maintain and display these artifacts and thus render honor to the men who captured it.
The cutaway is part of it's history. It's fantastic that it can be viewed like that.
All ways good to see any tiger 1 and this is a great survivor. Being made a cuter way is the reason it has survived, and if it wasn't it properly been scraped, here in the UK they did the same thing to a Jagdpanther which was until recently displayed at the Imperial War museum.
Sofi your a good friend to the facility, their lucky to have you. and hope to see more content soon.
I have a copy of Tiger without a home written when the Tiger was in Germany. While I am not happy the collection moved from Aberdeen and pieces were left behind, I am glad to see the armor finally inside. The Tiger 1 did have steel welded to the side when it was stored outside at Aberdeen.
I don't think the cutaway sections are an issue - the tank survives and, had it not been cutaway, it would not. Glad it is there to be seen.
The cutaways are an issue. They need to be repaired and the vehicle needs to be restored to running condition
@Ryan it's Teaching Aide, legally. People want to use the excuses you just listed to hide behind low budgets.
The Public is not on your side of the debate.
Plug and weld the cutaways. Restore these beasts to original running operational status.
@@TheNVSK I agree and disagree, restoring this to running order would in effect generate money and keep this place running, like 131 does in Bovington, but this tank is in bad shape, its been sitting outside most of its life while 131 has been inside for most of its, 131 has been worked on for decades this tank hasn't , I just dont think its fixable into running order. I think as a teaching aid it is a bit of a cop out, there is many sources of information of Tiger 1 that people can use to learn about this tank. Historical aid isn't like learning about a new modern tank you are about to jump in, so it is kind of odd. There isn't many original Tigers left, so you could say it needs the sides built and put back on, but on the other hand the cutting away of its side is a part of its history now. Its really a two edged sword.
@@Youcannotfalter
Have you seen the amazing results of the Australia Armor Museum in fabrication of original parts, restoration of completely compromised armored plating?
The Australian Armor Museum is putting to shame all the arguments that The Patton Museum, Benning, etc could even come up with not to restore the tank to historical running order.
There is also a Panther and King Tiger II with cut aways that need to repaired as well.
All the establishment museum suits want to hide behind "teaching aid" or "historical artifact" when it suits the status quo.
The Australians and the Swiss and private endeavors are putting these suits and ties to shame.
The People want historical running tanks.
@@TheNVSK and the semi gloss paint wasn't the best idea.
Great video. You can really see the care that goes into these restorations. The cut aways are cool I really like getting to see the inner workings of the machinery!
I think plugging the cutaway would make things even worse… I’m just glad that it’s getting the care it deserve.. plus the cutaway are historical in their right..!!
I'm so thankful that we have a growing preserved collection in the US. I would not recommend plugging the holes in Tiger 712. Those cuts are now a part of its history. They demonstrate the armor thickness and allow the visitors to see the interior. Until you actually get inside a tank, you can't really appreciate the cramped quarters in there. The value placed on these artifacts was certainly viewed in a different light immediately after the war than now and is easy to explain for those willing to read or listen.
It sounds funny to spend so much time researching paint, but it's not like there are many if any people left that remember seeing one of these tanks in the field. Excellent video!
With lexan being able to be molded covering the openings just might make it possible to make a running machine out of it as well as a great teaching tool.
Thanks for mentioning Commonwealth forces.
But good work on restorations happy to see pieces getting saved
Woah, in a couple years this Museum is going to give Bovington a run for their money. As soon as this museum starts normal tours I feel a vacation coming on.
Bovington will take a ton to beat. It will be interesting to see this collection restored in 2 decades.
I hope you get it running but with the cut away with plexiglass over the cutaway. It would be interesting to see demos with a full crew while the tank is running
When I first opened this, I thought you were at Bovington. The NACC collection is on my must-see list now. Thanks for the Tanks.
Looking at that Tiger strikes fear in me! I hope that it's restored to that of the bovington tiger one and put back into operational running condition with the welded Armour replaced ! Thanks for the video!
I both like and hate the cut away. Its is very interesting to see the workings of the tank . Can't wait till its all restored with crew and ammunition. Maybe cover the cut outs with clear plexiglass??
Rob Cogan has a dream job! Thanks for letting Sofilein access to make these videos and Sofilein thank you for filming these beauties.
Sofi , back in the mid 1980s at Ft.Polk they had a little M3 Stuart Tank that fought in North Africa. It had a shell land near it on the left side , which put shrapnel marks all over it . It was at the museum there. When I left out , there was talk of it going on the range to be shot up ...I voice my opinion on that is should be done , but I don't know what ever became of the Veteran Tank . I'm so glad that you help show and teach people of the history and service of these track vehicles. You do a great job Sofi !!!!!!!!
Great update. Will you be doing little videos of the restoration, as it takes place? Would love to see how the turret floor bin is attached...
Yeah, if I'm around to capture it I would love to.
Sofilein looking as cool as the Tiger 712 and keep up the great work
Looking forward to this! 🙏
I understand what Mr Cogan said. Thanks to those couple of cuts on the side that Tiger was saved from the scrap. So is good to me to admire this survivor with these openings. I know can look horrible, but is an interesting piece of history that was saved thanks to the removing of the side, thats the bright side🙂…Kudos to this wonderful team of experts. Hope someday can visit this awesome place🤞
Better late than never. So glad you people are bringing these historic fighting vehicles under a roof and are now restoring them. Is the collection open to the public? I'd make the journey from Arizona to see these amazing tanks.
Don't replace the cut away sections!, when it is finished and has the dummy crew it's going to be jaw dropping cool and people will love seeing the interior!.
I can't believe he cut that hole in the side of the tank, and right before our eyes too!
Very very cool, thanks for showing us the progress on this lovely cat
WHY DID YOU CUT UP THAT TIGER TANK!!!????
Just kidding.... Awesome that is being restored and saved for further generations. Good video, thanks.
just from a metalogical perspective looking for imperfections, that is brilliant.
I think that it is so cool that you can see the inner workings, too me even more important than the exterior! I say, screw the haters!
Thank you for sharing this with us. It’s awesome you guys are saving history. And for every weirdo that blaming you for what happened to the tiger all those years ago there are hundreds of us that thank you for your tireless work in this field and on this awesome tank.
Awesome Sofi, thanks for sharing. Love that collection and the work you and Chieftain are doing to share it with us! Also appropriate sweater!
It is fantastic that these tanks are in a covered facility and might/will be restored. I enjoyed when they were at Aberdeen. Please make us proud by making them like new again. Thku
I can't wait for a time when this facility is opened to the general public. It would be great to spend a day or 3 wandering around admiring their collection.
Should make it a big public museum and sell tickets and raise money to get more stuff restored running. So much potential.
Hey Sofi , great video on Tiger 🐅 712 . It is very nice to see it getting the care it deserves. I get it being open up to see . But now it would be super super great if you could get a Tiger running there . I say a Big Thank-you to everyone there helping to save this Armored History.
I took the time to visit several US Army trophy armor collections while I was active duty in the 1980s and afterwards. One of the collections was at Fort Lewis. Most of the items were outside. This is where General Schwarzkopf served part of his career. So, if he couldn't get them inside and protected, why are some of you tank fans railing against the one person who has managed to do that, Rob Cogan? 🤪🤦♂️ Want to help preserve these tanks? Call up your congresscritter and ask them to provide more funding so that Rob can do his job better. Knock of the social media outrage. Rob doesn't deserve it.
Thanks Sofilein and Rob , keep up the the great work , and Rob , l understand , you did not do the damage , it's not your fault , but as you said , it does make it interesting to look into . . greetings from Australia
712 was still at APG in 1989. I saw it later in Germany in 1992
Wow, what a difference since I first saw 712 some 40 years ago sitting at Aberdeen in the field painted in a gawd awful version of Panzer Gray. Needs a stowage bin.
A very good family friend was a Tiger 1 driver..🤙🤙
Well done, Sofi and Rob. I especially appreciate the insights about the paint and the armor. Stay true!
For me, the Nashorn will be the star of the show, it needs a lot to get it restored but with that all done, it will reap the benefits. Poor thing has been stuck outside most of its life. The bonus thing with the Nashorn is it has all of its sides intact. ;)
Commonwealth forces (There are other nations as well apart from British). Good to hear this comment sir. Appreciate that you have atleast highlighted the involvement of other nations which are often ignored!
With that many tanks to restore they must have some pretty robust inventory control for the various parts and pieces.
I'm really glad that everyone involved gets to do this and pass on the work for hopefully generations to come.
A cutaway certainly gives strong incentive for interior restoration. 👍
Hi Sofilein,
The Tiger 1 was at that time a beast of a Tank. It was good to listen to Rob’s explanation. Thanks for this episode and lots of success with your UA-cam channel. ❤️ from the Netherlands.
Best regards,
Dick de Graaff
Leave it as a cutaway, that damage has already been done and there are other tigers around the world to fore fill the need to look at a complete hull and turret! Get it completed, hopefully running, I think is great! Its one of a kind, the oldest left and the only cutaway you can view into the crew compartment!
Great Video Rob- you love your tanks. Thanks Sofi- one day I hope the public can visit!
Excellent video Sofi
Thank you
I actually like the cut away as it shows what’s going on inside
Can’t wait to visit this museum
Kind regards
Stuart in Ireland ☘️🌹
I think the Tiger cutaway does provide an interesting educational opportunity. I admit, never having been inside a tank, I have trouble visualizing the crew positions and mechanical functions on shows like the Chieftain’s Inside the Hatch. I will enjoy following the restoration progress on this and other vehicles in the future.
That cut away is really the best thing to happen to it, ...because there is no physical way you could have people trying to see the tank from the inside from the hatches. Being as inconsiderate as many folks are, they would maul on all the hard work put into it. I also see this being used by the film industry to get that action shot of a functioning crew.
Had 712 not been opened as a training tool, she'd probably have been scrapped, so its a small price to pay for the survival of such a rare machine.
We don't have to like it, but there it is.
Is there any chance those holes could be closed up with removable "plugs"? Something screwed/locked/latched from the inside for the sake of taking it out for shows. seams could be covered with some washable paint etc?
Well done and thanks
I think I'll go inside 712 next week and do some cleaning. I am one of the Oompa-Loompas of the collection... *sing* "Oompa oompa doopidy doo, I. Got. Another. Broken tank for you!" 😅
Muito bom! Obrigado por compartilhar! Agradecimentos do Brasil!
Thank you for that update. While it can be appreciated how unique the cut out is to keep, one thing that would certainly change it's look to be more complete looking like Australia's Tiger 1 build would be a replica storage bin on the back of the turret. Nice job on what's done so far.
Removable panels seem like the best solution for this Tiger as far as the cutouts go. Get to still see inside when desired but also cover them up when not.
Leave the space as it is ,I think like you said you can see how the crew worked in such confined spaces .
Hello, thank you for the upload and your conservation skills. " Very interesting. " - Arte Johnson
Thanks Sofilein and Rob! Great job, keep up the good work!
I wish they'd get it running. Seeing it operate with the cutouts would be great.
You think they have what it takes to re-build and run a Maybach HL-230? I know better.
What happened in 1946, is part of this tank's history. It too should be preserved.
So far i know there are three Tiger I early version that survived until today , one is this one , second Tiger number 131 in the UK and the third is the one in the Kubinka museum in Russia
Hello Sophie and Community, The Australian Armor & Artillery Museum is also currently restoring and repairing tanks from the WWII. Maybe you can make a video from there. Cheers and keep it up.
Would love to! Tickets out there are very pricey. But someday I'll get out there.
Great update. Thanks Sofi and Rob. Good things take time.
I hope one day you might consider making a 3-D interactive view inside and out of this and all of your collection then we from far away might get to "see" this wonderful collection
Awesome. At least there's still a good part of it left to see. I know well the thought process of a WW2 Vet/ Greatest Generation person, my Dad. He would've sold it for scrap.
Good to see you again M'Lady. For some odd reason I am not getting notified when you drop a new video. Always enjoy your videos though. Nice to see they are going to restore that big cat!!
My Uncle helped get it back to the US iv got some pics of it in the UK
The cut aways are what kept the tanks from the scrappers.
Magnifico tu trabajo Sofi; muy buen video. Saludos desde Queretaro, Mexico.
More great work, thanks Sofi/Rob! 🙏
*I don't know any other UA-camr who's that pretty and who decides to mostly stay behind the camera.*
Where's the king tiger?? I've seen that one at the Patton museum in Kentucky it was amazing. Really looking forward to seeing this beast one day.
Another fascinating video from Sofilein! Thank you. Keep them coming !
It might not be the worst idea but to fabricate detachable sections for the cut-away areas so that if this Tiger was ever made into a runner it could be buttoned up and then remove them for static display and as a teaching tool.. I think it would be pretty doable. Anyhow great video.
The thing that most people don’t know is there was no heat or air conditioning in these vehicles. Just having ventilation was a luxury. I can’t imagine how hot it was inside these tanks in the summer in the desert? Plus the human stink must have been horrible!
Keep the cutout. It was done, it's part of the vehicles history - and interesting in it self, it saved the vehicle for the future. The cutouts makes the interior accessible and I think it works great. It's sort of a shame but not really now it's done. Totally unique. Won't be another one I imagine.
(What will people say about that split Centurion at Bovington in 50 or so odd years if there are few Centurions around?)
Those that complained and will complain about the cutaways aren't worth our time. Let them cry and make fools of themselves.
Very interesting because I didn't know that the tatical number of this Tiger was not always 712 but other numbers. I am a bit surprised because there were not many tigers I that has fought around Tunisia! Apparently only 7 of them fought there including the Bovington Tiger 131 so in my point of view repainted the number was a bit of wasted time....
Good job again 👍👍👍
About 30 Tiger 1 served in North Africa, from memory this tank was first assigned to Schwere Panzer Abtielung 504, then it was re allocated to 501.
@@frankvandergoes298 thanks for the interesting info 👍
At least the cutaway does give an interesting visual of the armor thickness.
There are photos of APG with around 13 Tiger II hulls stacked on a rail siding.
Always good to see you two!
A fantastic video. Great job so far everyone.
👏👏👏 Brilliant produced video Sofi
That Tigers money in the bank if he gets it running.
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