Inside and Out: BMP-2 Infantry Fighting Vehicle Tour
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- A thorough glance with Bill from the National Armor and Cavalry Collection of the Soviet-era BMP-2
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Small point of order: the BMP-3 doesn't have the missile on the roof: it fires them through the 100mm gun. The missile is the same 9M117 Bastion (AT-10 Stabber) that you see on upgraded T-55s.
If I recall right, there were photos of other ATGMs tested on BMP-3 simply due to most powerful and reliable ones USSR and thus Russia have are in 130-152mm caliber. That's among the other weirdness like frontal 30mm AGLs for driver. My guess would be that separate ATGM module might have returned on 57mm armed vehicles. But now that's history that'll never happen:D
P.S.: though chinese might adopt some that last one. If they'd still have some trust left in russian equipment in a few months:D
@@TheArklyte I know they've experimented with other ATGMs on BMP-3 but AFAIK most of the ones in service use the gun-launched one.
It's not the technical quality of Russian equipment that's been particularly shown lacking, so much as their maintenance, logistics, training and tactics. A different army could have done WAY better with the same equipment if they'd used it properly.
@@MrHws5mp the ukranian army is just a russian army with ``some`` us stuff iths that ukrane has been at war and has alot of redy ness russia is so corupt from the incide out lel
@@MrHws5mp We call such "smart guys" the "sofa general".
BMP-3 uses Arkhan ATGM not Bastion.
Served with Bill in the Army way back in the day. Sure is great to see and hear him in action again. Great presentation Ferg!
You should reach out to him and reconnect
@@magnusred2945 : I have and thank you!
You old timers know ur shit
@@Katarinarabbit : Bill does.
Important safety tip: The driver’s hatch handle must be in the locked position when that large circular hatch is fully open, otherwise it is possible when hitting a big bump or other obstruction that the hatch will rotate violently, potentially decapitating the driver should he have his head sticking up. Trust me on this one.
My man seen shit
Our M1200 Armored Knight / M1117 ASV are the same way, with rotating hatches for the driver & TC!
We'd tried to hammer that risk into the heads of the guys we were doing drivers training for, then immediately had a guy forget to lock his hatch open and brake a bit firmly while turned-out. Got him right in the neck and left a decent bruise, but fortunately didn't cause any lasting injury!
"This is a killing machine. It does not care who"
Did you get your head decapitated?
yep there was an incident some time ago didnt end very well......
Every military vehicle should be reviewed in scope of a nation's adopted military doctrine. It's great to analyze how much engineering effort was contributed by the USSR engineers in the vehicle that was to become the transport and support for a squad in line with the adopted tactics. Every little thing has its intended purpose, even the cannon belt feed weirdly snaking in the turret to make any part of the belt accessible if the belt is stuck.
True. But as a human and solider I know which equipment Id rather trust my life with and and how meaningless human resource was seen for Soviets
@@BiberandDolik It's an 43 (1979) year old modification of the BMP-1 (1966 ie a 56 year old design). It gets called an IFV but its little better in Armour than an APC. The dismount crew often choose to ride on top since they would die in a mine strike if inside. Ofcourse if they ride outside they loose protection from artillery and small arms. A WW2 German half track would surely be better. Its very easy to penetrate and if penetrated there is little containment inside leading to many crew casualties.It's very outdated even as BMP-3 and BMP-4.
@@williamzk9083 BMP 3 is outdated? lol
@@TiberiiGrakh BMP-3 is outdated
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This tour was quite interesting, thank you. Especially since the BMP2 was the direct opponent or equivalent to the west german NATO IFV Spz "Marder", which i happened to serve on around 1980, first as a gunner and a year later as young NCO commander. (but even designated gunners, will man all positions in the IFV during their service)
Though we had lots of schooling, i never really saw the insides of a BMP2 and must say, the basic layout is pretty much the same, as our counterpart the marder. But due to the lower profile of the BMP2, it sure is even more cramped. i.e.: i could sit, even with a helmet on, comfortable upright at close to 6,1" in the "rear combat room" as we called it. The BMP though the same, is in many details much simpler, i'd like to mention practical "creature comforts" as the seats. The 2x 3 seats on both sides, the back of our seats could be lifted up and arrested, so 3 up in a row, would result in a bunk, max 4 bunks in total possible, small but actually slept well on those a few times - and of course as improvised transportation for the injured.
The two man turret: Same handles for firing and moving turret - though better design and quality on the marder.
The gun ports in the rear combat compartment were interesting. Though at that time 1980, the NBC proof 4x ballports (for UZI only, locking together) were scrapped on marder, fell away, along with the remote controlled MG in the back - and these gun ports are not really practical tactically, such situation should not even occur in the first place, this is the main objective of the infantry crew in the back: dismount from the IFV to protect MBT and other tanks, from their vulnerability to infantry anti tank attacks.
Now the gas tanks in the rear doors of the BMP2 were a surprise as well, shouldn't have been a problem for the 20mm autocannon and AP munition, penetrating 44mm armour at approx 1000m. Heck, even with the HEI munition, both sorts were instantly switchable.
One thing is for sure, back then we jumped and crawled through the vehicle, yeah, like ferrets, today, that would be a tough task. Sorry for comparison, but it was a good time back then, mostly good comradeship and on top of it, the cold war never got hot, so we fired only on stylized BMP targets. Cheers.
I operated an argentinian VCTP (based on the marder) and i agree 100% with you. Pretty much the same, mostly ours that developed almost identical to the 1A1-first production variant
The objective of the firing ports its to fire on the move in the event of a NBC attack.
That 100mm, or the new 30mm autocannon can chop up Marders or Bradleys easily.
@@panzerrjcb NBC means all buttoned up. Opening a firing port defeats the purpose.
@@davidjames1063 I think the firing ports are sealed and vented, and just opened for a brief moment for the rifle to clip on them.
Anyway infantry inside have the responsibility to wear NBC masks i think
Glad you're back bonny lass.
It's beju dimensions are one reason you see alot of BMP soldiers riding on the outside it.
Contrary to what Bill said about the rear doors, a tank full of diesel is safer than a empty tank.
That's why you see a bunch of Jerry cans down the side of a Strv 103.
And contrary to Hollywood you can't ignite a Jerry can fuel of petrol...sorry gas by shooting it.😉
I’ve always wondered what the insides of APCs and IFVs looked like and this channel has finally helped with my curiosity!
Ah the days of flexibility and youth. Used to hop in and out of M109’s with abandon. Now just climbing in the rear hatch hurts my knees and back. Kudos to you both for climbing in those things without a helmet. After my 2nd head strike I never went in one without one.
I was grabbing Ibuprofen just watching.
The helmet is good for your head because it is quite easy to bang it especially in a cramped vehicle like this BMP. When I was driving the Leopard 1A2 in 1974 in the Italian army it wasn't so bad even with the hatch closed but unfortunately we had the Italian copy of the 2nd WW helmet that made me sweat like crazy, almost shrinking my head....
Of all the armored vics I've ever spent time on, the 109 and it's CAT were the only two with enough space for me to be able to stand all the way up.
M109 all got sent to get blown up by Lancet drones. Just as well, 1968 vintage worn out crap.
@@JohanssenJr Calling the M109 "armored" is like calling the F35 a good aircraft.
Cracking presentation by Bill - plenty of information and entertaining too. Good stuff. 👍 Nice to see a new video. 😁
Fascinating little vehicle.
What’s with all the hate for the bmp series? The bmp1 was revolutionary. Seriously. Nothing like that existed before. It changed how all nations fight wars. It completely shifted the ideas of how to transport infantry. And what those transports could/should do in support of them.
That very well may be... Though I saw an aerial photo (don't know what was used to get that color glossy) of a Libyan BMP-1 that was hit by a TOW when Mohmar did his excellent adventure into Chad... There was a blackened hull in a scorched circle in the dirt... and nothing else. Chad forces were running around the dunes in Toyota SR5 4X4 pickup trucks with a TOW Launcher in the back, and they wrecked havoc on Libyan Armor Columbs.
May have revolutionized ideas... Being in one didn't strike me as a good idea. No thanks, I'll walk.
Have always liked them and agree with you
Thanks Sofi for yet another cool vid, keep 'em coming.
At the time it was designed, this combat vehicle was a real revelation.
Compared to high profile trash like Bradley or the old M113, it was very advanced. Also 10x more RELIABLE.
@@davidjames1063 The Bradley came after the BMP. When BMP came out USA knew they needed to copy the concept. The BMP changed military doctrine.
@@davidjames1063I don’t know where the “Bradley/M113 is trash” stereotype came from, most of the stuff I’ve seen them do is often beyond what the BMP could’ve done.
Sofi, I can really appreciate the special education and technological concepts that your channel provides, one could never receive this information short of joining the military which is not possible at over 60 years old..lol!
Hey sofi! Missed you and your content, I'm so glad to see you back! Please do more Soviet/Russian tanks when you can!
You got those all over the internet right now in all kinds of conditions... Ukrainian farmers are making videos like this now...
We had actual BMP's run by OPFOR (Opposing Force) during field training at Hohenfels, Germany. We were engineers attached to an armored unit of Abrams and our old M113's had a time keeping up. A solitary BMP was spotted and our tanks took chase like a dog after a rabbit. The BMP led them right into a draw and ambush that wiped us out. My platoon sergeant was furious at the tankers calling them "DATS-Dumbass Tankers".
Hell yeah Sofi, great return to form!
That was very interested I don't know much about Soviet or Russian armour so I really enjoyed it. Thank you.
I don’t mind the fuel tanks in the rear doors, if the enemy is able to send rounds towards those rear doors you have more to worry about then those fuel tanks, such as you’ve just been flanked by the enemy.
Nonetheless, there's a reason why the crews of these vehicles started to leave these tanks empty or fill them with sand in Afghanistan and Chechnya, and why the crew survival rates on these vehicles after a hit are so abysmal.
@@TheBellman interesting
@@TheBellman
Wait, I'll try to guess now. This is probably because against an infantry fighting vehicle, which is designed to protect against bullets, an RPG hits, which is designed to destroy a tank. Yes?
@@НиколайНикакоюс-л2ь This is in response to RPG hits yes, but in that event the crew has a slightly better chance of surviving if they aren't literally surrounded by burning fuel tanks, hence these habits
In the west we don't expect the entire crew to burn to death even if their vehicle faces a weapon capable of disabling it. A veteran crew making it home safe to perhaps even man another tank is worth a lot.
@@TheBellman
The burned-out crews of M2 Bradley disagree with you.
Always a good day when Sofilein and friends take us on a tour.
Don't you love that sweater? I always looked forward to getting mine out of the closet when cold weather arrived.
Hot diggity!! My Sunday has been made! Been way too long. I'm very glad to see an upload from one of my favorite content makers. Gave this a like even before it started because I'm totally confident it will meet my expectations, as each of your uploads do. Thank you.
Too kind!! It's good to be back and creating. Regular content now 😎 apologies for the hiatus!
@@Sofilein 😊Just speaking facts. Glad the hiatus was not longer or, God forbid, permanent. So looking forward to what's coming from you.
Clever. Showing the models during the actual war and combats.
Sofilein is back!
More vids of Sofi scampering in and out of tanks please.
30mm auto cannon is some serious firepower. Especially the 2A42, slow rate of fire for accuracy(200-300 rpm) and high(550 or so) for cqb. Despite the less than superb armour, I'd be glad with that machine giving me support.
All the dash and everything, a great find. MasterMilo has a bmp in bits if you want to see the gearbox stuff. They like to really kill the multi plate clutch :o) it was warped up like a dinner plate .
Man that troop compartment would be miserable in hot weather. With 6 dudes back there with packs, weapons and extra ammo etc you wouldn't have an inch to move about.
This infantry fighting vehicle was one of the best IFV 30 years ago, but is now long outdated. Although the BMP-2M version is still good. I really like the 2A42 gun, it has an excellent balance of power and rate of fire.
BMP2 aesthetics is amazing
Between Real-Life, SciFi and Fantasy/Movie design
My favourite ifv ever
Until you have to fight from inside it, I guess :)
@@azgarogly Yeah, that looks miserable to ride in, let alone to try and fight from. I'd imagine that soldiers who spent several hours riding in these would be at a disadvantage compared to soldiers riding in something like a Bradley, just from the cramps generated by the uncomfortable seating positions.
@@azgarogly yep I'd rather sit on top of it and die there than to burn inside
@@zde1532 вы забываете, зачем вообще существует такой транспорт. Большинство потерь армия несёт от осколков и пуль, а не от пожаров в технике. 1 фугасный снаряд 152-155 мм разорвавшийся рядом превратит вас в пирожок с начинкой из шрапнели. И хорошо, если вы умрёте сразу. А те кто будет в технике скорее всего почувствуют лёгкий толчок в борт. А уж горят что БМП, что Брэдли одинаково сильно.
@@voviy333 I'm not forgetting why they are used. IFVs aren't exactly outdated, just this version/model. They need to make a new one real bad, aluminium is a weak armor, they need to replace it and upgrade the engine.
It sure does protect from shrapnel and bullets, but anti-tanks are more popular than you think. With every squad of forces, atleast one carries an RPG or NLAW
Had fun crawling round a dozen of these in Kazakhstan over a decade ago.
First Team at Ft. Benning, priceless. Well done Sir. V/R
Imagine getting hit with a shoulder fired weapon in that cramped space. Lord have mercy.
Great content though. It's really interesting to see how it really is for mechanized soldiers.
Was thinking the same a javelin would make mince out of it
@@darrylmuse9948 100%. Javelins have been knocking these out left and right in Ukraine.
BBQ , BMP is light armored transporter and protects only against 7.62 machine guns , that’s why infantry prefer to ride on top of them and not inside , at least you have way more chances in case of sudden ambush attack
Hey what’s up, glad to see you’re back.
Thank you! It's good to be back. Regular content again soon :DD
Always cool to see new vehicles (well new to me haha). I think I have a bunch of micromachine BMPs. Good stuff as always!
I like how he still tried to open the second door, hope never dies.
The top hatches over the troop compartment were actually intended for On-the-move Strela-2 MANPAD fire
Thank You both. Appropriate and informative for these Difficult Times and Beautiful Dayz that we share.
I am more excited to see Sofia than the tank!😁😁😁
Thanks for the close looks at some Soviet hardware, Sofi. Clearly demonstrates their long standing philosophy that the Man services the Machine, and not the other way around.
Well, you should still remember that this machine was created to protect a man in the battlefield and it was a really expensive piece of hardware back then and it is still expensive so your statement regarding negligence to man's life is far from truth. Yet, you still need keep in mind that war machines are operated by teenagers who are a lot quicker, agile and can stand all hardships of military service. When you come to the army, you are expected to be a hard soldier, not a tender gedonist seeking a life comfort as when it comes to a fignt for your life in a war last thing what you think about is life comfort as survival comes up to a front as an essential priority and this is a very concept of this vehicle.
Great vid! Always wondered about these machines. Even without the rust they seem a bit basic.
Glad to have you show us another cool bit of armor!
Absolutely love the walk arounds of US armor. Digging the brown 5 button mil issue brown sweater by the way. It suits you.
I'm a fat BMP-2 driver and one of our drills was to crawl out of the tank, from the drivers seat, through the turret and out the back doors.
I'm so jealous Sofi, I would love to see vehicles like this in person and get to go inside.
Just watched a Ukrainian fighter describe that when they're hit with anti-tank missiles, the turret blows off and the main body falls apart. Bugger that.
They do not like American anti tank weapons they seem to literally blow the whole vehicle to bits. So plenty of Syrian rebels firing The tow missile and I felt so sorry for anyone inside instant death
@James Mitchell and in fairness, it's been speculated that those same missiles may also be deadly against our own tanks, which proved capable of taking an RPG during the Iraq conflict.
Hey Sofi , so really good to see you back !!! You had me rolling when the Ol CAV Trooper said , not sure how to get down there and you said ," Feet First " ...lolololol ...You answer like an Ol ' Black Boot Army " Buck Sgt." ...
I just watched a farmer steal one of these in Ukraine a while ago wild stuff
Old Master Gunners never die. Epic stash thou
My daughters are impressed, BMPS would go nicely with their tracked APC vehicle collection. They took me for a spin in two of my favorites, both 70s vintage M113s from the Vietnam-era, an ARVN A2 and an Army ACAV A1, fast and manueverable (ungraded power, steering and track- controls), they're not "low-riders" but very fun...
@@NobleLeatherLol, I get that, I spoiled my son & daughters on machinery, speed & competition. Sofelein is the closest I ever discovered as a desireable gearhead female but I'm too old and retired from my speed & restoration businesses. So instead of searching for "that" girl, I doted on my daughters full time. I'm proud that they are successful, happy and altruistic. They want for nothing and make life better for those worthy of them. But these days they do their best to spoil Dad, me of course. Their collection has cars, infantry vehicles and several close air support air craft going thru restoration. They are certified multi jet pilots and work for SpaceX. They don't need me to screen their friends, I raised them to be good judges of peoples intent & character, but I'm a Dad and they're always my little girls. Thanks for the compliment to them and take care...
Bill did a really good job, didn't hear a single thing that contradicted anything else I have ever heard about the vehicles, and avoided silly myths.
I would have liked to have heard more about the history of that vehicle particular to FBGA; was it Iraqi, and if so, from GWI or GWII?
Certainly some Arabic-speaking country. The numbers on the side are 227 (or 722, depending on which direction they go).
Great video, it's been a while since I've seen a new Sofilein video. Now we just need the Chieftain to do an in dpoeth review of the BMP so that we can see one of his patented "Oh bugger, the tank is on fire" tests.
In regards to getting out from the squad leader's position in the case of a hammed hatch or roll over. If it came to a situation where bot the driver's and squad leader's hatch ar both hammed, the driver is also just as screwed, probably more since he'd have to climb over/past the squad leader's position in order to get out the back.
10:35 aka Cheburashka. Now live with it knowledge...😂
I was checking the most played time line and thought viewers were actually repeatedly watching the gun bore or something. BUT THEY WERE WATCHING SOFILIEN. LOL
Thanks Sofi!
Those wasp nests give me the willies..... but a great tour! I think I've seen vids of these things over in Ukraine in various stages of shot-up. Sofi.... you are a wonder and a natural tanker.
BTW Glad to see you back Sofi. Love your videos and your passion for tanks!
A death can. My god what a misery to be stuck in one of these things. I can imagine the panic and horror of the Occupants trying to get out when they get hit. The concussion and noise inside of the tank when firing must be horrendous
she loves tanks so much its pretty Amazing :)
In Desert Storm my LAV put a 25mm round right through one of those back doors. One single rounds killed everyone on that BMP. fuel sprayed all over on the inside of the BMP all while the 25MM bounced around inside. BOOM I cannot forget that smell.
Weak BMP. Thank you for your service.
That thing basically insures a quick, painless sacrifice for the fatherland.
You see a lot of destroyed ones in Ukraine right now. I can see how they did get destroyed and burned right after that. Fuel on the back doors. These things are a major fire hazard. The guys looked like BBQed pigs...
Cool tour!
Reading Russian is not too hard once you know the letters. Some words are similar to English or German, e.g.: "laser" or "control".
Greetings,
Jeff
That is a cool looking tank
15:52
> The vehicle commander's hat chair, the gunner's hat chair
Took me a second to get.
Thank you Sofi and Bill, that was informative and well done! I like your videos and your dark eyes Sofi!
Rocking the feather fringe 🤗
Just watched one of these along with its crew get blown away by a Ukrainian BTR-4 In Mariupol.
Outstanding video and presentation.
Missed you
Flash back to my college housemate who wanted nothing more than to be tanker when commissioned at 6'4" 260 we had our doubts. In the end an ACL tear in an intramural softball game shifted his life.
I feel like the gun ports would be significantly less loud that you think they are... most of the sound is going out from the muzzle and being blocked by the hull... still loud but not like the gun is over your shoulder...
Thanks for a interesting video. Nice to have you back. Looking forward to more interesting videos. Greetings from Sweden.
Damn near fell in love when she said freedom units now all she needs is a mullet.
I went to basic in ft Benning school for wayward boys infantry school 04. Broke my foot and marched about 20 miles on it there. Lots of miserable memories lol.
Bill, if you're excited about the original foam filled fender, we're excited for you.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 thank you for the fooood
6:11 "It also has two top hatches for the crew to stick out and stretch their legs" - That put a strange image into my head of soldiers sticking their legs up out of those hatches..
Glad to see you back!. Reminds me of my Wargaming days, playing Panzerblitz and PanzerLeader as well as Arab-Israeli Wars. All good games from Avalon Hill back in the 70's. Destroyed many BMP's and BTR's known as Bumps and Beaters with Patturions and AMX-13's.
I want a bmp2
Or brdm2
I want a fucking M51 super Sherman
@孤独な黒いオオカミ yep both tanks are beautiful
Hey! Nice to see a vid from you pop up in my feed! I need to hang out with you guys when you're on Twitch soon, just been crazy lately :(
I know how crazy goes, man! Content here and the streams will be there for ya when you get the time again. I hope things are the good kind of busy for the most part on your end!
Nice to see you back with content. 😀
Fun fact, during the soviet afghan war, BMP crews would fill the fuel tanks full of alcohol to bring to sell to troops at outposts.
We had one for testing where I worked. My job was to help syphon the transmission fluid out of the engine compartment before it made the clutch slip too much. Then put more back in the tranny itself to run it for the test. Thing leaked like a sieve.
It is my understanding that what you call the squad leader hatch used to be the commander hatch in the BMP-1 with its one-man turret, and the BMP-2 moved the commander to the turret to give him more cover. Apparently it was super easy to take out the commander and cripple the squad in the first version.
I served on a BMP-1. The commander was indeed sitting behind the driver. He was able to fold the back of the chair back and exit the vehicle with the driver facing backwards. if the enemy fired head-on. The tower was smaller, so there was room next to it.
We all know what the inside looks like by now.
We're not used to seeing an intact one.
Hey Sofi , so good to have you back !!!!! I thought the ol M113 was tight ...the 113 had the big fuel tank inside with soldiers on the left side rear / driver side . .... during Vietnam War , American Soldiers would ride on the topside ,not in due to not being able to get out if hit ...have seen the BMP's in use on the border in West Germany in the Cold War Days ...
Glad to see you back!!
That one looks in a better shape than the tanks Russia is sending right now in Ukraine !
There was a fascinating example of a BMP 1/2 firing port being used on a film made by Iranian movie producers called the Lost Strait in english.
Love the BMP-2
about driver seat you have several height position so you can drive with open hatch head sticking out and be down and use periscopes
Need more videos like this
Nice hat Bill, First Team!
Now I know just how much work it is to fit a 30 mm cannon into a low profile vehicle.
All things considered this may now be the world's best preserved BMP-2. Take care of her
Like the top! Those things itched me ever time I wore one. Was happy to get My first polypro I tell ya.
Sofilein is awesome !
being a paratrooper, i’ve never envied armor crews. doesn’t mean i don’t love learning about armor tho: cool video.
If you know somebody with a BTR-80, you know what to do.
Preferably the 80A, because of the, imho, more appealing turret with the 2A42
Great video guys!
I really want to see them sand it all clean, and repaint it Soviet Green like the original. Such a cool machine, and more advanced than expected considering nearly 35,000 of them were mass produced.
9:30 ПТ - short for anti-tank in russian, most likely atgm
Перезар - short for reload
Остаток - how much ammo left(for 2a42 most likely)
Насчёт - probably how much was fired
Тип - ammo type
Контроль - control
Each button under screen is to switch info on dedicated screen from top and bottom names
2:34 maybe im a nerd but having the original fenders is very exciting to me