Thank you so much for this video! I knew I didn't have perfect pitch, but I've memorized A, D, G, and C well enough to sing them accurately without an external reference (because I've been playing viola in my high school's orchestra long enough to do that). Those are the only notes I know and it takes a _lot_ of effort to think of those notes in suboptimal environments (for example, when there's a lot of noise around me). I didn't know what to call this before, but thanks to you I now know it's called pitch memorization (which is a pretty obvious name now that I think about it)! And on a side note, the production quality of this whole video is off the charts considering how small your channel currently is. I see you're pouring your heart and soul into this content, so I'mma subscribe to you so you'll (hopefully) get picked up by the algorithm and receive the attention you deserve. Have a great day, and God bless you!
The other downside that perfect pitch has is that, like you said, it's as instant as recognizing a color. So when our band or a choir is slightly sharp/flat (not including purposeful microtonal harmonies of course), it's much harder for me personally to enjoy the music, because the only thing my ear recognizes is the fact that they are sharp/flat. Sometimes when creating music, perfect pitch can't get out of it's own way. So it's a blessing and a curse.
Yeah that’s actually a good point it’s not all ideal. I also heard it can get annoying when singing with a group who is slightly sharp or flat because the reflex is to sing the perfect note not necessarily the note that is in tune with everything else
Preach it, Brother! Exactly the same for me! I used to sing in a very well-known choir while I was in university, and they could drift well over a half-step in either direction! One time, I somewhat loudly announced that even though the rest of the choir was going to do their thing, I was going to sing the correct pitch! I made no small number of enemies that day! 😕 But they also learned to listen to my pitch, and we stayed in much better tune, when I didn't cave in to their drifting. But it was a constant battle for me -- and them -- and the professor! 😕
@@snickpickleI would think the choir would ant to take advantage of someone having perfect pitch as that’s incredibly helpful to have a pitch to follow! At least I know I would
I have very strong relative pitch and pretty close to perfect pitch. About a decade ago i started to even got bothered by equal temperament. I can hear the "difference being split" by that tuning system. I try to ignore it but its kinda hard. I even tune my guitar to have 4ths and 5ths specifically more in tune between each string. I do it the same way a lot of guitar players will match the same note on each string. It's pretty rare that we play the same note on multiple strings, we usually play 4ths 5ths and 3rds. Theres a way to tune where the 4ths are slightly sharp and the 5ths are slightly flat. Listening to a lot of music where out of tune notes is part of the vibe helps me chill out a lot, and thats sorta all guitar based music. Its not that i dont notice, its that i do notice and consider it part of my experience of the work. Ive even gotten into the sound of slightly out of tune pianos. So hearing those small pitch differences doesnt have to be a curse, you can embrace your hearing to notice that stuff and like it! :)
This was a really great explanation and comparison between the differences in these types of musical skills or 'talents'. You've got a knack for being able to explain and articulate these ideas/concepts in a really well organized and logical type of way that makes it easy to understand. Keep on making more videos. We could always use more UA-camrs making high quality musical content.
Where perfect pitch was a curse for me was when I went to learning to play the horn in F: It took me 1-1/2 years to be able to understand that when I'm supposed to play a horn G, it was actually a C in concert pitch! Very frustrating to director and me alike! Where I think I learned perfect pitch was during my copious amounts of time alone, I would sit at a piano and just play one note (say, a middle C). I would just let it roll around in my head. Then to reinforce it, I would play it again, maybe louder or softer, or whatever. Then I would analyze how it made me "feel." The "feeling" part of it was more evident in chords, however: The difference between a C minor triad and a B minor triad in terms of "feeling" for me would be like night and day, as the C minor would certainly "feel" somber, but the B minor would be more "haunting." To be honest, I didn't know that there even was such a thing as "perfect pitch," or how rare it is. When I first found out I had perfect pitch was when I was listening to this excellent harp player in a fancy restaurant when I was in 8th grade. During a set break, I commented to her (instead of complimenting her on her fine playing), "I noticed that your C# was a tad high!" Yes, she was taken aback, and yes, she was kind of insulted! (Way to go, Mr. Autism [which I also have])! Another time, as a 19-year-old or so, I was in a music (guitar) store, and I wanted to try out a guitar. But being it was late spring, with the temperature and humidity changes, the guitar was quite out-of-tune. So I immediately proceeded to tune the guitar without a tuner. The shopowner was HORRIFIED! In fairness, I'm sure he had more than his share of kids coming in and saying "I know how to tune a guitar!" with the resultant damage done... But while he insisted that I use a tuner, I continued in my quest to get it tuned quickly. He got out the tuner, and honest to Pete, the needle read straight up and down! 🙂He was blown away with that! Typically, I am within about 5-10 cents of being correct (using A=440Hz tuning), and usually on the flatter side, if anything. The two notes that give me the most trouble are G#/Ab and F#/Gb. I have no clue as to why that is. The two other things that defy my sense of pitch are "non-tonal"/mechanical sounds, unless there is a distinctive tone, and "block" chords or mega-dissonances; I simply cannot discern the notes, outside of maybe the top and bottom notes. I have never really tried discerning microtonality, other than to get in the vicinity of the note on a 12-tone scale. To me, a microtone is merely a way of making an interval sound more in-tune with itself -- true-tone scale as opposed to tempered-tuning scale. I have often wondered if I can subconsciously count the frequency "pulses," even though I am not aware that I am doing that or not, let alone able to put a number to the note (Hz). Just a couple of observations on my own musical and perfect-pitch journey, other than to say that now that I'm in my early 60s, I have become very aware that I am losing this ability -- an occurrence shared by many other musicians. I used to be an *excellent* sight-reader back in the day, but now, if I can't hear the pitch in my head, I blow both the interval and the pitch itself (missing wildly, in some cases) -- VERY frustrating to me!
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MCR fans literally noticed that the live version of "Welcome to the Black Parade" that was played in the recent tours is not in the original key just from hearing very the first note.
I actually have True Pitch! I demonstrate it to people sometimes, and they think it's wild. It's strange, since I've never really felt that special because I feel like anyone can do it. I think it mostly developed from being in high school choir and reading sheet music constantly in a theory class. I think about notes, intervals, etc. all the time by default. Just how my brain works I guess. So it just sort of formed naturally over several years. I really believe anyone who is passionate about music, or even just sound in general can do it, it just takes some time! I really recommend taking the time to listen to your instrument, learning a little theory, and having fun analyzing your favorite tunes! You'll be speaking music notes before you can say "Jacob Collier."
I think it’s a very bad attitude to have, that everyone can do what you do! Believe it or not, you’re special 😬, and that attitude can really frustrate folks Your story is yours and your development happened the way it id! , but that doesn’t mean anyone can do it because you can, or that anyone could do it the way you do it
@@nicegoodstylish I get that it comes off biiter, just as a music teacher I know exactly how that attitude works out in the end. It makes people , adults and kids alike in this case (because I teach both buddy) , Roll their eyes and immediately wonder “if anyone can do it then why can’t I every time that I’ve tried?” And causes quitting and failure. I know you didn’t think there was anything wrong with saying that, but sometimes as people we say things without thinking. My name says Matt not buddy btw
@@nicegoodstylish you didn’t just say you believe in people , you siad people can obtain true pitch becusse you did. It’s the same thing as when people who flex there mils 💰 and say anyone can do it, it’s annoying
good video i totally agree i play guitar and working on my relative pitch and i can see is really usefull by figuring out the keys of songs with my instrument and interacting with my instrument
I had piano lessons from the age of 5 to 17. The first two years of my music education, I barely even touch the piano. It was focused on recognizing pitch and chords. We basically were trained to be sensitive to music. Even now I can recognize different pitches quite accurately. I didn’t know until I was in high school that not everyone hears music like I do. Although I think that ability gets weaker as I get older. I don’t think it’s entirely a gift, I think it can be trained if you learned it very young. I don’t know if it’s perfect pitch or memorization, but it’s certainly is a cool party trick for me. I do recognize pitches beyond the instruments that I play though. I’m not very musically gifted, like I’ve never wrote songs and my piano skill is just average. But I enjoy music a lot, and particularly classical music.
I believe if you can tell when a pitch is slightly off (like idk maybe a F# that is a quarter tone flat) you probably have perfect pitch. And yeah there is this big debate on whether or not perfect pitch can be trained when you’re young. I just think it’s a really cool phenomenon and thanks for sharing your experience with it!
I am unable to hear sounds in my head, and thanks to this, the only somewhat reliable way I've found to determine a note is to learn what each note feels like to hum and try to find the octave from there.
I would argue relative pitch is more helpful long term. "Perfect pitch" is typically learned at a young age and eventually goes away around the age of 50. Theres a lot of documented frustrations from older musicians who had perfect pitch but once it faltered it became totally useless.
@@markop.1994 I would agree that relative pitch is without a doubt the most important! But I also think absolute pitch is just in general a cool phenomenon
From my own experience, pitch recognition exists on a spectrum, and it IS possible to go too far.... What do I mean? Well, I knew someone with perfect pitch so precise that he could tell just how in or out of tune a particular note was. So much so that it was a hindrance at times when he listened to stuff.
I developed perfect pitch when I was about 5 or maybe even 4. Later, when I was about 11, my composition teacher had an instrument that could be retuned to various microtonal tunings. Still later, I myself was able to do microtonal stuff on my keyboard as well. And then one day I started searching for online articles about some historical tunings or other similar topics. This was a very influential period of my life because suddenly I understood the different meanings of, let's say, a major third and a diminished fourth; or a minor third and an augmented second. So today, after having composed numerous microtonal pieces myself, I can say that perfect pitch does indeed help in many cases. But I still think that a good sense of relative pitch should be what one should primarily be focusing on. The reason why I don't have trouble with the famous 31-tone division of the octave is not my ability to remember the proper pitch of an Ab or of a G# (even though I often try to do that) but rather my ability to distinguish all those intervals found in that tuning. 31 per octave is still not as hard as, say, 50 or even 53 per octave (two other microtonal systems, again pretty famous). But still, if the intervals are played like dyads and not like melodic intervals, I think I might even be able to learn those of the 50-tone or the 53-tone scale, if I really wanted to. The thing is, I don't need to remember one particular system because there are lots of microtonal systems out there, most of them unequal. So sticking to just one of them makes little sense. Instead, I view it as a pitch continuum, or rather as an interval continuum. I've never had the chance to properly measure how well I could distinguish different interval sizes if they were very similar but not quite the same and if they were played like melodic intervals, not like dyads. But I think that if I listened very carefully, I might be able to hear differences as small as 6 cents or something like that.
Wow this is so fascinating, thank you for sharing! So I also have a question, when recognizing intervals in this microtonal divisions, do you hear the exact note values first or you do you try and consciously ignore that and listen specifically for intervals?
These things come in such a quick succession that I'm hardly able to tell which one comes first. I guess that it depends on the type of chord. If it's something close to the conventional 12-tone system (as with some meantone temperaments), then I think the AP recognition comes first. But if it's something like 0-385-550-840 cents, then I would say that the interval recognition comes first. But still, the situation is often unpredictable when I'm making music in such a tuning which is completely incompatible with our functional harmony or with our conventional keyboard (for example, there are such chord progressions where the first and last chord sound identical when played in the desired tuning but not when played in the standard 12-tone equal temperament).
perfect pitch (absolute pitch) has been proven to actually be just an incredibly long-term memory for pitch. They did experiments wherein musicians with perfect pitch were played a song in a certain key, and then slowly, ever so slowly, without the musicians knowing, the song's pitch was changed. When they reached the end of the song, the examiners would then play them the same song from the beginning, and their reaction was always "it's out of tune"! Thus, this proves that perfect pitch is not truly *absolute*, and it's not based on some weird translation of frequencies by their brains. It's simply ... incredible memory for pitch.
Actually perfect or absolute pitch degrades over time with age and that’s been proven. So eventually when you are of old age, your pitch will be off by a semitone at least
great video thanks for covering! i know i don’t have perfect pitch, but i have always been able to identify any pitch drawing it back to the open string tuning on my guitar. thanks for helping me discover that this is different from relative pitch! 😊
Perfect pitch is like speaking a language as native language. But it doesn't necessary mean you will be a great poet or actor, however a foreign speaker can practice enough the language to be able to write great poetries or interpret well monologs. It's all about work.
After watching this video with a new perspective on singing and music etc, I highly recommend watching Qin Xianglian a 4:45min clip of the Chinese opera, singing he hits many notes for each word, similar to Indian gamakas, thought everyone who saw this video would also get a kick outta the Beijing opera Qin Xianglian
Hey man! Great video and I appreciated your explanation. Saw it recommended and it's a shame you're not more popular. I was always fascinated by those that can play anything by ear. It's nice to know that this can be practiced through ear training and you don't necessarily need perfect pitch. Thanks again!
The explanation of perfect pitch reminds me of my great-grandfather. He wasn’t a musician, but could tell by the pitch of the whistle which line the trains running past our house were from. My father (his grandson) had excellent pitch memory until he was in his 60’s. I’m not sure where mine fits in. I can recognize a note within half a step by how it “feels” to play it on my instrument.
Great work! Good to hear you also mention the rarity of perfect pitch is somewhat specific to western nations. Among other things, Oliver Sacks wrote about perfect pitch in his book 'Musicophilia' - and that perfect pitch is much more prevalent in (Asian) cultures with tonal languages.
Loved this video! If I can point something you could easily improve I would ask you to tune your volume a bit higher. Just telling because I notice the sound lower than usual videos. It sounds very clear, I appreciate the sound quality, this advice is just to give you some ideia about what you may improve to make your work even better. Good job! Thanks for share your content with us!
I play a few different instruments mostly by ear and have found that my perception of pitch varies quite drastically depending on the instrument. On sax, I often rely on pitch memorization because each note has a slightly different timbre. On guitar, I mostly use relative pitch to find my way around due to the consistent placement of intervals. On piano, on a good night, I often just know when notes will be correct without operating in any theoretical framework and with no muscle memory. The hard part for me is squaring these pitch-finding skills with the technique that I have. It feels as if they live in two separate parts of my brain and I can rarely bridge that gap. When it happens, it’s the best feeling in the world, though.
Awesome video! The amount of research you showed is awesome! My parents thought for a while that I had perfect pitch (which I definitely don’t) but I do have pitch memorization.
Great video - relative vs perfect pitch... Agree relative pitch is good enough, the main thing is being able to create the songs we know and love. Interesting analogy with the colors, a step further 90% of all people have "perfect color" so that does not make us all legendary renaissance painters 🤔... could it be just like we learned colors through association and then all by themselves maybe the same process happens for musical notes? Maybe a missing link somewhere in music education? I know guitar notes based off the low E A strings, then find my way...while others took the time to memorize each note by rote... same for typing...is hunt and peck good enough? A lot of folks are advanced " hunt and peck" but it looks like they have taken typing classes...ha ha ha :) Anyone else type things and realize your fingers are just going and you are not thinking about where the keys are? You do it I guarantee it, BUT soon as you start thinking about it you start looking at the keyboard...mind is a funny thing...
My piano teacher recognized that I had perfect pitch at the age of 8 and now I just use it to impress people but it also helps when I am producing music 😊 🎶
As someone with perfect pitch, it's very helpful for composition cause I can hear music in my head and instantly write it down without needing an instrument, but that can also be done with good relative pitch. To be honest, in general it's pretty damn useless. Having said that though, I wouldn't give it up for anything cause it's just a part of how I experience music
The quality of this video looks like it’s made by someone with 2M+ followers! Your video editing skill is outstanding, keep it up! One minor suggestion might be to make the content even more concise and go straight to the points. But it’s really minor though.
Love this video! You need more subscribers -- there you go. BTW, the sound level seems kind of low compared to the other youtube videos I'm listening to -- could you adjust going forward?
Very interesting! I have decent relative pitch. I can play songs by ear without much trouble, but nothing too complicated. I can't tell you what chord progression it is or what key the song is in, but I play by estimation and I can 'hear' patterns that go together. In fact, my parents put me in a piano class when I was a little child, because they heard me figure out some melodies by ear on a toy piano. I didn't go through with it for very long due to life issues though. But picked up another instrument recently and I still have the skill.
So if someone didn't have perfect pitch, but had memorised a particular note and could figure out any other note from that memorised note, what would that be called? It's not perfect pitch per-say, neither is it really relative
Very interesting. 🙂 As one who's losing that little bit of "ear" I counted on in the last 60 years, I wonder if there's a physiological reason for the fact that it's something one loses with age. 🙂 Anyway... I'm no musician, just curious 🙂
Well I’m definitely no expert on that, but I imagine that’s just the brain shutting down processes overtime - kind of like how you start to lose your vision when you’re older or not being able to hear as much frequencies as you previously could.
@@beautyofmusic2022 Yep, that's what I thought of as well, but... My hearing test says I pretty much hear the same frequencies I did 40 years ago, even with a slight improvement on highs 🙂, so I'd rule out physiological conditions. Yet, I noticed I'm getting more "confused" in terms of tone deafness. For example, I can hear a note and then its 5th and perceive them as the same note for a moment. Or it becomes difficult to get intervals by ear, if I'm, let's say, trying to find out the notes in a guitar solo, even a simple one. This has always been difficult for me. I get the first, let's say, 5 or 6 notes right and then they become "all the same". Not in my head: I can follow, or even sing, the solo in my head with no problems. But when I try to transfer it on my guitar... Bang! All messed up. 🤦🏼♂
I love all the ways in which you acknowledge disability and sensorial/neurological difference.
Thank you, they were important to at least mention!
As someone with unperfect pitch, this is very insightful
Great video!
Thank you 😂
Thank you so much for this video! I knew I didn't have perfect pitch, but I've memorized A, D, G, and C well enough to sing them accurately without an external reference (because I've been playing viola in my high school's orchestra long enough to do that). Those are the only notes I know and it takes a _lot_ of effort to think of those notes in suboptimal environments (for example, when there's a lot of noise around me). I didn't know what to call this before, but thanks to you I now know it's called pitch memorization (which is a pretty obvious name now that I think about it)! And on a side note, the production quality of this whole video is off the charts considering how small your channel currently is. I see you're pouring your heart and soul into this content, so I'mma subscribe to you so you'll (hopefully) get picked up by the algorithm and receive the attention you deserve. Have a great day, and God bless you!
Wow thank you so much 🥹, this means so much to me 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Great video. As a side note, I would highly recommend increasing the volume.
Thank you, appreciate the feedback!
The other downside that perfect pitch has is that, like you said, it's as instant as recognizing a color. So when our band or a choir is slightly sharp/flat (not including purposeful microtonal harmonies of course), it's much harder for me personally to enjoy the music, because the only thing my ear recognizes is the fact that they are sharp/flat. Sometimes when creating music, perfect pitch can't get out of it's own way. So it's a blessing and a curse.
Yeah that’s actually a good point it’s not all ideal. I also heard it can get annoying when singing with a group who is slightly sharp or flat because the reflex is to sing the perfect note not necessarily the note that is in tune with everything else
Preach it, Brother! Exactly the same for me! I used to sing in a very well-known choir while I was in university, and they could drift well over a half-step in either direction! One time, I somewhat loudly announced that even though the rest of the choir was going to do their thing, I was going to sing the correct pitch! I made no small number of enemies that day! 😕 But they also learned to listen to my pitch, and we stayed in much better tune, when I didn't cave in to their drifting. But it was a constant battle for me -- and them -- and the professor! 😕
@@snickpickleI would think the choir would ant to take advantage of someone having perfect pitch as that’s incredibly helpful to have a pitch to follow! At least I know I would
I have very strong relative pitch and pretty close to perfect pitch. About a decade ago i started to even got bothered by equal temperament. I can hear the "difference being split" by that tuning system. I try to ignore it but its kinda hard.
I even tune my guitar to have 4ths and 5ths specifically more in tune between each string. I do it the same way a lot of guitar players will match the same note on each string. It's pretty rare that we play the same note on multiple strings, we usually play 4ths 5ths and 3rds. Theres a way to tune where the 4ths are slightly sharp and the 5ths are slightly flat.
Listening to a lot of music where out of tune notes is part of the vibe helps me chill out a lot, and thats sorta all guitar based music. Its not that i dont notice, its that i do notice and consider it part of my experience of the work. Ive even gotten into the sound of slightly out of tune pianos. So hearing those small pitch differences doesnt have to be a curse, you can embrace your hearing to notice that stuff and like it! :)
I heard that in old age people with perfect pitch drift and everything sounds flatter than it should be
This was a really great explanation and comparison between the differences in these types of musical skills or 'talents'. You've got a knack for being able to explain and articulate these ideas/concepts in a really well organized and logical type of way that makes it easy to understand. Keep on making more videos. We could always use more UA-camrs making high quality musical content.
This comment made my day, thank you :)
Where perfect pitch was a curse for me was when I went to learning to play the horn in F: It took me 1-1/2 years to be able to understand that when I'm supposed to play a horn G, it was actually a C in concert pitch! Very frustrating to director and me alike!
Where I think I learned perfect pitch was during my copious amounts of time alone, I would sit at a piano and just play one note (say, a middle C). I would just let it roll around in my head. Then to reinforce it, I would play it again, maybe louder or softer, or whatever. Then I would analyze how it made me "feel." The "feeling" part of it was more evident in chords, however: The difference between a C minor triad and a B minor triad in terms of "feeling" for me would be like night and day, as the C minor would certainly "feel" somber, but the B minor would be more "haunting."
To be honest, I didn't know that there even was such a thing as "perfect pitch," or how rare it is. When I first found out I had perfect pitch was when I was listening to this excellent harp player in a fancy restaurant when I was in 8th grade. During a set break, I commented to her (instead of complimenting her on her fine playing), "I noticed that your C# was a tad high!" Yes, she was taken aback, and yes, she was kind of insulted! (Way to go, Mr. Autism [which I also have])!
Another time, as a 19-year-old or so, I was in a music (guitar) store, and I wanted to try out a guitar. But being it was late spring, with the temperature and humidity changes, the guitar was quite out-of-tune. So I immediately proceeded to tune the guitar without a tuner. The shopowner was HORRIFIED! In fairness, I'm sure he had more than his share of kids coming in and saying "I know how to tune a guitar!" with the resultant damage done... But while he insisted that I use a tuner, I continued in my quest to get it tuned quickly. He got out the tuner, and honest to Pete, the needle read straight up and down! 🙂He was blown away with that!
Typically, I am within about 5-10 cents of being correct (using A=440Hz tuning), and usually on the flatter side, if anything. The two notes that give me the most trouble are G#/Ab and F#/Gb. I have no clue as to why that is.
The two other things that defy my sense of pitch are "non-tonal"/mechanical sounds, unless there is a distinctive tone, and "block" chords or mega-dissonances; I simply cannot discern the notes, outside of maybe the top and bottom notes. I have never really tried discerning microtonality, other than to get in the vicinity of the note on a 12-tone scale. To me, a microtone is merely a way of making an interval sound more in-tune with itself -- true-tone scale as opposed to tempered-tuning scale.
I have often wondered if I can subconsciously count the frequency "pulses," even though I am not aware that I am doing that or not, let alone able to put a number to the note (Hz).
Just a couple of observations on my own musical and perfect-pitch journey, other than to say that now that I'm in my early 60s, I have become very aware that I am losing this ability -- an occurrence shared by many other musicians. I used to be an *excellent* sight-reader back in the day, but now, if I can't hear the pitch in my head, I blow both the interval and the pitch itself (missing wildly, in some cases) -- VERY frustrating to me!
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Wowww this was such a fascinating read. Thank you for sharing!
MCR fans literally noticed that the live version of "Welcome to the Black Parade" that was played in the recent tours is not in the original key just from hearing very the first note.
I actually have True Pitch! I demonstrate it to people sometimes, and they think it's wild. It's strange, since I've never really felt that special because I feel like anyone can do it. I think it mostly developed from being in high school choir and reading sheet music constantly in a theory class. I think about notes, intervals, etc. all the time by default. Just how my brain works I guess. So it just sort of formed naturally over several years.
I really believe anyone who is passionate about music, or even just sound in general can do it, it just takes some time! I really recommend taking the time to listen to your instrument, learning a little theory, and having fun analyzing your favorite tunes! You'll be speaking music notes before you can say "Jacob Collier."
Haha this is so cool! Yeah I believe your constant exposure definitely was the catalyst in you developing it over time
I think it’s a very bad attitude to have, that everyone can do what you do! Believe it or not, you’re special 😬, and that attitude can really frustrate folks
Your story is yours and your development happened the way it id! , but that doesn’t mean anyone can do it because you can, or that anyone could do it the way you do it
@@Matt_bechillin Buddy, I don't think there's anything wrong with believing in people. You just sound kinda bitter :/
@@nicegoodstylish I get that it comes off biiter, just as a music teacher I know exactly how that attitude works out in the end. It makes people , adults and kids alike in this case (because I teach both buddy) , Roll their eyes and immediately wonder “if anyone can do it then why can’t I every time that I’ve tried?” And causes quitting and failure.
I know you didn’t think there was anything wrong with saying that, but sometimes as people we say things without thinking.
My name says Matt not buddy btw
@@nicegoodstylish you didn’t just say you believe in people , you siad people can obtain true pitch becusse you did.
It’s the same thing as when people who flex there mils 💰 and say anyone can do it, it’s annoying
good video i totally agree i play guitar and working on my relative pitch and i can see is really usefull by figuring out the keys of songs with my instrument and interacting with my instrument
It’s the most important ear training skill!
I had piano lessons from the age of 5 to 17. The first two years of my music education, I barely even touch the piano. It was focused on recognizing pitch and chords. We basically were trained to be sensitive to music. Even now I can recognize different pitches quite accurately. I didn’t know until I was in high school that not everyone hears music like I do. Although I think that ability gets weaker as I get older. I don’t think it’s entirely a gift, I think it can be trained if you learned it very young. I don’t know if it’s perfect pitch or memorization, but it’s certainly is a cool party trick for me. I do recognize pitches beyond the instruments that I play though. I’m not very musically gifted, like I’ve never wrote songs and my piano skill is just average. But I enjoy music a lot, and particularly classical music.
I believe if you can tell when a pitch is slightly off (like idk maybe a F# that is a quarter tone flat) you probably have perfect pitch. And yeah there is this big debate on whether or not perfect pitch can be trained when you’re young. I just think it’s a really cool phenomenon and thanks for sharing your experience with it!
I am unable to hear sounds in my head, and thanks to this, the only somewhat reliable way I've found to determine a note is to learn what each note feels like to hum and try to find the octave from there.
Very instructive and integrative about the phenomenon. Absolute pitch is a game changer nobody can't deny that. A gift in every sense of the word.
It’s a really cool ability for sure! I wish more people with it talked about some of the cool things they can do with it
I would argue relative pitch is more helpful long term. "Perfect pitch" is typically learned at a young age and eventually goes away around the age of 50. Theres a lot of documented frustrations from older musicians who had perfect pitch but once it faltered it became totally useless.
@@markop.1994 I would agree that relative pitch is without a doubt the most important! But I also think absolute pitch is just in general a cool phenomenon
Having perfect pitch and relative pitch working together is nice. Both ways of listening have unique colors. 👍 excellent video btw 🙏
From my own experience, pitch recognition exists on a spectrum, and it IS possible to go too far.... What do I mean? Well, I knew someone with perfect pitch so precise that he could tell just how in or out of tune a particular note was. So much so that it was a hindrance at times when he listened to stuff.
I developed perfect pitch when I was about 5 or maybe even 4.
Later, when I was about 11, my composition teacher had an instrument that could be retuned to various microtonal tunings.
Still later, I myself was able to do microtonal stuff on my keyboard as well. And then one day I started searching for online articles about some historical tunings or other similar topics. This was a very influential period of my life because suddenly I understood the different meanings of, let's say, a major third and a diminished fourth; or a minor third and an augmented second.
So today, after having composed numerous microtonal pieces myself, I can say that perfect pitch does indeed help in many cases. But I still think that a good sense of relative pitch should be what one should primarily be focusing on. The reason why I don't have trouble with the famous 31-tone division of the octave is not my ability to remember the proper pitch of an Ab or of a G# (even though I often try to do that) but rather my ability to distinguish all those intervals found in that tuning. 31 per octave is still not as hard as, say, 50 or even 53 per octave (two other microtonal systems, again pretty famous). But still, if the intervals are played like dyads and not like melodic intervals, I think I might even be able to learn those of the 50-tone or the 53-tone scale, if I really wanted to.
The thing is, I don't need to remember one particular system because there are lots of microtonal systems out there, most of them unequal. So sticking to just one of them makes little sense.
Instead, I view it as a pitch continuum, or rather as an interval continuum.
I've never had the chance to properly measure how well I could distinguish different interval sizes if they were very similar but not quite the same and if they were played like melodic intervals, not like dyads. But I think that if I listened very carefully, I might be able to hear differences as small as 6 cents or something like that.
Wow this is so fascinating, thank you for sharing! So I also have a question, when recognizing intervals in this microtonal divisions, do you hear the exact note values first or you do you try and consciously ignore that and listen specifically for intervals?
These things come in such a quick succession that I'm hardly able to tell which one comes first. I guess that it depends on the type of chord. If it's something close to the conventional 12-tone system (as with some meantone temperaments), then I think the AP recognition comes first. But if it's something like 0-385-550-840 cents, then I would say that the interval recognition comes first.
But still, the situation is often unpredictable when I'm making music in such a tuning which is completely incompatible with our functional harmony or with our conventional keyboard (for example, there are such chord progressions where the first and last chord sound identical when played in the desired tuning but not when played in the standard 12-tone equal temperament).
perfect pitch (absolute pitch) has been proven to actually be just an incredibly long-term memory for pitch. They did experiments wherein musicians with perfect pitch were played a song in a certain key, and then slowly, ever so slowly, without the musicians knowing, the song's pitch was changed. When they reached the end of the song, the examiners would then play them the same song from the beginning, and their reaction was always "it's out of tune"! Thus, this proves that perfect pitch is not truly *absolute*, and it's not based on some weird translation of frequencies by their brains. It's simply ... incredible memory for pitch.
Actually perfect or absolute pitch degrades over time with age and that’s been proven. So eventually when you are of old age, your pitch will be off by a semitone at least
great video thanks for covering! i know i don’t have perfect pitch, but i have always been able to identify any pitch drawing it back to the open string tuning on my guitar. thanks for helping me discover that this is different from relative pitch! 😊
Perfect pitch is like speaking a language as native language. But it doesn't necessary mean you will be a great poet or actor, however a foreign speaker can practice enough the language to be able to write great poetries or interpret well monologs. It's all about work.
After watching this video with a new perspective on singing and music etc, I highly recommend watching Qin Xianglian a 4:45min clip of the Chinese opera, singing he hits many notes for each word, similar to Indian gamakas, thought everyone who saw this video would also get a kick outta the Beijing opera Qin Xianglian
Like, try singing along with that song, even some of the people with the best pitch might have a hard time singing it by ear for the first time
Sean Wilson’s channels nuts! his ear is amazing to figure out those complex chords is wild
Absolutely facts! I aspire to get a relative pitch like his one day
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As someone who has perfect pitch, I die inside every time someone sings a song in the wrong key
Lovely video and great insight, learned something new today 😆 thank you!
Hey man! Great video and I appreciated your explanation. Saw it recommended and it's a shame you're not more popular.
I was always fascinated by those that can play anything by ear. It's nice to know that this can be practiced through ear training and you don't necessarily need perfect pitch. Thanks again!
The explanation of perfect pitch reminds me of my great-grandfather. He wasn’t a musician, but could tell by the pitch of the whistle which line the trains running past our house were from. My father (his grandson) had excellent pitch memory until he was in his 60’s.
I’m not sure where mine fits in. I can recognize a note within half a step by how it “feels” to play it on my instrument.
sounds to me like some form of pitch memorization :)
Mines memory. My mind literally records full FULL snippets of music. They appear / pop up randomly without prompting too.
Great work! Good to hear you also mention the rarity of perfect pitch is somewhat specific to western nations. Among other things, Oliver Sacks wrote about perfect pitch in his book 'Musicophilia' - and that perfect pitch is much more prevalent in (Asian) cultures with tonal languages.
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Loved this video!
If I can point something you could easily improve I would ask you to tune your volume a bit higher. Just telling because I notice the sound lower than usual videos.
It sounds very clear, I appreciate the sound quality, this advice is just to give you some ideia about what you may improve to make your work even better.
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Thanks for the feedback!
Excellent video and well explained. Liked and Subscribed!👍
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Man so awesome!
I play a few different instruments mostly by ear and have found that my perception of pitch varies quite drastically depending on the instrument. On sax, I often rely on pitch memorization because each note has a slightly different timbre. On guitar, I mostly use relative pitch to find my way around due to the consistent placement of intervals. On piano, on a good night, I often just know when notes will be correct without operating in any theoretical framework and with no muscle memory. The hard part for me is squaring these pitch-finding skills with the technique that I have. It feels as if they live in two separate parts of my brain and I can rarely bridge that gap. When it happens, it’s the best feeling in the world, though.
Great video! I have perfect pitch and I really enjoyed how well you explained the topic, thank you for this video, greetings from Italy!!
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You are a great explainer! Keep it coming!
Through this video I realised I had relative pitch, pitch memorisation most of my life and developed perfect pitch at 15 yr😊.
Awesome video! The amount of research you showed is awesome! My parents thought for a while that I had perfect pitch (which I definitely don’t) but I do have pitch memorization.
Thank you! And that’s good that you know now!
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lovely video, thank you for sharing!
Great presentation
I LOVE YOUR VIDEO! This answered a question of mine, so thank you 😁
Great video - relative vs perfect pitch... Agree relative pitch is good enough, the main thing is being able to create the songs we know and love. Interesting analogy with the colors, a step further 90% of all people have "perfect color" so that does not make us all legendary renaissance painters 🤔... could it be just like we learned colors through association and then all by themselves maybe the same process happens for musical notes? Maybe a missing link somewhere in music education? I know guitar notes based off the low E A strings, then find my way...while others took the time to memorize each note by rote... same for typing...is hunt and peck good enough? A lot of folks are advanced " hunt and peck" but it looks like they have taken typing classes...ha ha ha :) Anyone else type things and realize your fingers are just going and you are not thinking about where the keys are? You do it I guarantee it, BUT soon as you start thinking about it you start looking at the keyboard...mind is a funny thing...
Very interesting video dude! Very insightful!
My piano teacher recognized that I had perfect pitch at the age of 8 and now I just use it to impress people but it also helps when I am producing music 😊 🎶
As someone with perfect pitch, it's very helpful for composition cause I can hear music in my head and instantly write it down without needing an instrument, but that can also be done with good relative pitch. To be honest, in general it's pretty damn useless. Having said that though, I wouldn't give it up for anything cause it's just a part of how I experience music
And always remember… nothing of this makes you a better musician. Better think about what kind of musician you want to be.
The quality of this video looks like it’s made by someone with 2M+ followers! Your video editing skill is outstanding, keep it up! One minor suggestion might be to make the content even more concise and go straight to the points. But it’s really minor though.
Thank you! Appreciate the feedback :)
Love this video! You need more subscribers -- there you go. BTW, the sound level seems kind of low compared to the other youtube videos I'm listening to -- could you adjust going forward?
Thank you and I appreciate the feedback, will do!
If you like dci menes you knew it was 3 and would never get E confused with any other note. Only E...
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Very interesting! I have decent relative pitch. I can play songs by ear without much trouble, but nothing too complicated. I can't tell you what chord progression it is or what key the song is in, but I play by estimation and I can 'hear' patterns that go together.
In fact, my parents put me in a piano class when I was a little child, because they heard me figure out some melodies by ear on a toy piano.
I didn't go through with it for very long due to life issues though. But picked up another instrument recently and I still have the skill.
Sorry to hear about your life issues, but it’s good that you’re still continuing with music and you’re developing you’re relative pitch!
So if someone didn't have perfect pitch, but had memorised a particular note and could figure out any other note from that memorised note, what would that be called? It's not perfect pitch per-say, neither is it really relative
I would say that's just using pitch memory with relative pitch
I use pitch memorization from my farts and then use relative pitch from that! My low pitch farts an F# and the high pitch Squeeler is B flat 🤘
😂😂 very innovative!
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10:59 Thanks, I've been working out ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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I keep hearing "air" instead of "ear", but other than that i think I'm good.
great video dude! I hear a hint of an accent in your voice..are you Trinidadian by any chance?
Haha not Trinidadian but Bahamian :)
Cool vid
Nice video
10:59 really disappointed there wasn't an image inserted here
I’ll do better next time 😂
Odd question are you from the Caribbean?
I am 😂
I could hear the tonal difference
Clicked because I saw John Mayer
He has a really strong sense of Relative Pitch!
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Also, I'm a amateur musician myself so I definitely enjoyed the video as well.
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Very interesting. 🙂
As one who's losing that little bit of "ear" I counted on in the last 60 years, I wonder if there's a physiological reason for the fact that it's something one loses with age. 🙂
Anyway... I'm no musician, just curious 🙂
Well I’m definitely no expert on that, but I imagine that’s just the brain shutting down processes overtime - kind of like how you start to lose your vision when you’re older or not being able to hear as much frequencies as you previously could.
@@beautyofmusic2022 Yep, that's what I thought of as well, but... My hearing test says I pretty much hear the same frequencies I did 40 years ago, even with a slight improvement on highs 🙂, so I'd rule out physiological conditions. Yet, I noticed I'm getting more "confused" in terms of tone deafness. For example, I can hear a note and then its 5th and perceive them as the same note for a moment. Or it becomes difficult to get intervals by ear, if I'm, let's say, trying to find out the notes in a guitar solo, even a simple one. This has always been difficult for me. I get the first, let's say, 5 or 6 notes right and then they become "all the same". Not in my head: I can follow, or even sing, the solo in my head with no problems. But when I try to transfer it on my guitar... Bang! All messed up. 🤦🏼♂
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