Weak federal standard allows deadly car-into-truck crashes

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  • Опубліковано 12 жов 2024

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  • @MMM18092
    @MMM18092 2 роки тому +59

    This has puzzled me ever since I first visited the States in the mid 90s. Difference to European trucks so obvious. Not mentioned in this video is that the full sides of the trailers should have something similar.

  • @silversonic99
    @silversonic99 Рік тому +23

    And nothing has changed 11 years later. I wonder how many people died unnecessarily since this video came out....

  • @Je_QzcY3mN0
    @Je_QzcY3mN0 Рік тому +8

    Unnerving to watch the trailer crushing it's way inside the car, like some kind of unstoppable, violent force.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 6 місяців тому

      it's the same force that killed Jayne Mansfield.

  • @dennisdamenis6831
    @dennisdamenis6831 2 роки тому +18

    Well Explained sir. 👍
    Government should consider reviewing this video for their Law.
    RIP Mansfield
    They should consider reviewing the Law to prevent Mansfield's accident happening again.

    • @downtownbillyandthenewjivefive
      @downtownbillyandthenewjivefive 2 роки тому +2

      Better yet: make it more difficult to obtain a license, so fewer idiots occupy the road.

    • @asianguy6174
      @asianguy6174 Рік тому

      Vote blue! Republicans are against regulations

    • @green5260
      @green5260 Рік тому

      ​@@downtownbillyandthenewjivefivethat's not how the real world works kid

    • @downtownbillyandthenewjivefive
      @downtownbillyandthenewjivefive Рік тому +2

      @@green5260 No, shit, Captain Obvious. If we did that, so many businesses that depend upon idiots mucking things up would go bankrupt, infant.

  • @canadianpirateanders9951
    @canadianpirateanders9951 3 роки тому +47

    So simple Like I feel like I could almost solve this problem

    • @oldieznut1
      @oldieznut1 3 роки тому +6

      By all means do it, 2021 and there has still been no change.

    • @itz_sebiii
      @itz_sebiii 2 роки тому

      @@oldieznut1 yes, it will save lifes

    • @jacobyunderhill3999
      @jacobyunderhill3999 2 роки тому +13

      Well, like many obvious problems that perplexingly haven't yet been solved, it turns out the problem isn't actually the problem after all. Almost always the problem is politics and money. And apparently that problem has no solution.

    • @0w3nn
      @0w3nn 2 роки тому +4

      @@jacobyunderhill3999 which is why life sucks

  • @williamrosenow6176
    @williamrosenow6176 Рік тому +4

    I had to deal with flat bed trailers on construction sites. When a truck got stuck they would not let us hook on to that to pull them out because they knew it would rip off. The solution is probably as simple as putting a 45 deg brace up to the frame farther ahead but that would damage more of the trailer and cost $10 more.

  • @victoriakleiner6428
    @victoriakleiner6428 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the update IIHS.

  • @spencerjoplin2885
    @spencerjoplin2885 2 роки тому +15

    There’s no liability to motivate improvement: rear-ending isn’t the trailer’s fault.

    • @nunyabusiness5275
      @nunyabusiness5275 2 роки тому +6

      Shit, it's always the trucker's fault. That's what they keep telling us

    • @fabreasy304
      @fabreasy304 Рік тому

      True but when that weak guard fails they will just say “the truck driver failed to do a proper inspection.” Slapping all fines and possibly manslaughter charges the trucker.

  • @chrisddr3
    @chrisddr3 2 роки тому +24

    Do we have an update on this?

    • @iihs-hldi
      @iihs-hldi  2 роки тому +90

      To date, nine semitrailer manufacturers have voluntarily strengthened their guards to perform well all three of our crash test scenarios, earning our TOUGHGUARD award. Also, updated underride standards are wrapped into the new infrastructure law. The law directs DOT to upgrade the requirement for guards to hold up in full-width and 50% offset scenarios with a 35 mph impact, and to consider adding the 30% scenario as well.

    • @Kia_Soulless
      @Kia_Soulless 2 роки тому +20

      @@iihs-hldi thanks for the update

    • @Leatherface123.
      @Leatherface123. 2 роки тому +1

      @@iihs-hldi I’d suggest adding braces that stretch to the rear axle of the trailer

  • @12yearssober
    @12yearssober 2 роки тому +2

    The bar seems to do very little

  • @Leatherface123.
    @Leatherface123. 2 роки тому +2

    The mains field bar needs to be reinforced
    They need to be apart of the frame, or need support braces that are at more of an angle

    • @ninjaguyYT
      @ninjaguyYT Рік тому +1

      I disagree. They should be part of the frame. Having it be separate makes it weaker.

  • @trixie9867
    @trixie9867 Рік тому +1

    wow thanks iihs

  • @asianguy6174
    @asianguy6174 Рік тому

    And gee, what party would be the one to block such necessary regulations?

  • @sammydkickinitonaddiction182
    @sammydkickinitonaddiction182 2 роки тому +3

    The bars are from the Mansfield law if I remember right

    • @deardiary8292
      @deardiary8292 Рік тому

      Correct. Jayne Mansfield died in this way.

  • @Ukko_RL
    @Ukko_RL Рік тому +1

    Note to self if I see a semi in front of me and I can't avoid that it go at it head on and duck .

  • @Chris-ut6eq
    @Chris-ut6eq Рік тому +3

    Has this been addressed yet?

    • @iihs-hldi
      @iihs-hldi  Рік тому +16

      The federal standard has been updated as part of the recent infrastructure bill, but even the new standard is far too weak. However, most new trailers being sold already have guards that far exceed even the new standard thanks to IIHS testing.

  • @equarg
    @equarg 2 роки тому +3

    The IIHS should look up semis T-boning cars and truck.
    Not much you can do there though. A fully loaded water semi vs a huge private pick up is still gonna kill the occupants.
    That happened in my community 2 days ago.
    A man and son in law were willed.
    The man had just retired officially the previous day and was going to the gulf course……….
    Jumped across the 2 lane highway and cut off a semi it seemed.
    Don’t know officially, but saw a clear picture of the T-boned truck and semi. Both occupants were probably killed by the semis bumper entering the cab and crushing them.
    I just hope the end was quick.
    He had told me he was gonna retire a few days ago and I apparently served him in our gas station that morning.
    A customer that afternoon came in and told me he was now dead. Damn.
    Don’t mess with semis folks!

  • @Elbert844
    @Elbert844 3 роки тому +2

    Was Jane Mansfield in a Malibu?

  • @stewartj3407
    @stewartj3407 2 роки тому +1

    This video makes me glad I drive a pickup.

    • @downtownbillyandthenewjivefive
      @downtownbillyandthenewjivefive 2 роки тому +2

      This video makes me glad I'm not an idiot who needs a law to protect them from their own stupidity.

    • @stewartj3407
      @stewartj3407 Рік тому

      @SwampMonster440 what are smoking man, a pickup truck frame is not lower than a car. If you have a car, can you crawl under it and change the oil without ramps? Not a chance, it’s doable on an f150. But My comment was in reference to where the passenger sits, not at head level with the bottom of the trailer. But I guess this car sits higher than a truck too.

    • @stewartj3407
      @stewartj3407 Рік тому

      @SwampMonster440 good grief my man, do you just need something to argue about? There is not a sane person in this world that thinks a car like this would withstand this crash better than a truck. What’s your point in trying to justify this car can do better than a truck? Do you drive a car, so you have to defend it’s honor lol. Light little cars will always loose to bigger heavier trucks. This is just the way it is, you will be decapitated. Btw this car does have a frame, and that frame most certainly lower than a truck, like this point makes a difference.

    • @stewartj3407
      @stewartj3407 Рік тому

      @SwampMonster440 if you say so garbage man.

    • @sixtenallingersandgren6674
      @sixtenallingersandgren6674 Рік тому

      @@downtownbillyandthenewjivefive ok we’ve heard your opinion under every fucking comment. Are you arrogant enough to think every accident is due to people being idiots? And do you really think someone coshould die because they made a misstake. You seem like a bitter person😂 some people seem to think they are invinceble and can never do anything wrong. Thats what gets you killed. In other words your attitude

  • @Specz187
    @Specz187 Рік тому

    do laywers know about this?

  • @streeks277
    @streeks277 6 місяців тому

    I lost a friend to this

  • @funduk7734
    @funduk7734 2 роки тому +4

    Lol, why there only 14 comments

  • @craigschwartz19
    @craigschwartz19 Рік тому +2

    Maybe people should stop tailgating, give plenty of space and stay off their phones. Problem solved

    • @logitech4873
      @logitech4873 Рік тому

      Bad take.

    • @wc2006
      @wc2006 Місяць тому

      doesn't save from idiot drivers. many people use safe driving as an argument to drive unsafe cars and to not wear their seatbelts, but there is the risk of other drivers.

  • @dennisschmidt975
    @dennisschmidt975 Рік тому +1

    Maybe people could just try driving their cars with their eyes open? .... Its always worked for me.

    • @logitech4873
      @logitech4873 Рік тому +1

      But distracted driving DOES happen, so obviously trucks in the US should have the basic safety features seen in Europe.

    • @dennisschmidt975
      @dennisschmidt975 Рік тому +1

      @@logitech4873 No it doesn't just happen, it takes effort... You choose to drive poorly.

    • @logitech4873
      @logitech4873 Рік тому +1

      @@dennisschmidt975 Again, it does happen. So it's very good to prevent deaths by taking basic steps like this. It's very strange how you're arguing against safety features.

  • @geoffbell166
    @geoffbell166 3 роки тому +2

    Just duck you will be fine!

  • @cujbaion1
    @cujbaion1 2 роки тому +1

    Stay in your lane, and not to the side, diagonally not less than 100 feet,

  • @hoalai2043
    @hoalai2043 3 роки тому +1

    Hi

  • @mahendrasmith7589
    @mahendrasmith7589 2 роки тому +1

    This could also be solved with auto emergency braking being standard.

    • @downtownbillyandthenewjivefive
      @downtownbillyandthenewjivefive 2 роки тому +2

      It is easier solved by actually paying attention to WTF you're doing, instead of expecting the world to protect you when you're outside of your crib.

    • @mike48084
      @mike48084 2 роки тому +1

      @@downtownbillyandthenewjivefive Agreed. I am sick of the govt mandating the shit out of my car. Seat belts and airbag wouldn’t exist if we lived in a truly free market society.

    • @downtownbillyandthenewjivefive
      @downtownbillyandthenewjivefive 2 роки тому

      @@mike48084 It's not really the government. It's the insurance companies. It's cheaper for them to make us pay for systems that keep injuries down. I'm glad we have great seatbelt systems, and I wear mine all the time, but airbags are an IIHS demand that got legislated. Insurance companies want everyone to drive because they will have more customers. This is why we protect the stupid: they're also customers for all sorts of businesses. So, in the end, it all comes down to greed, and stupidity.

    • @Leadpaintwalls
      @Leadpaintwalls Рік тому +6

      @@mike48084 you're completely out of your mind

    • @Leadpaintwalls
      @Leadpaintwalls Рік тому +1

      @@mike48084 wait nvm you're trolling

  • @karloskaiser
    @karloskaiser 3 місяці тому

    interessante

  • @nunyabusiness5275
    @nunyabusiness5275 2 роки тому +1

    How about, you don't drive into the back of big trucks?

    • @iihs-hldi
      @iihs-hldi  2 роки тому +18

      Expecting crashes not to happen isn't an effective highway safety tactic. Redundant safety measures need to be built in because humans make mistakes and crashes will happen. In this case, vehicles have been engineered to protect you in a 35 mph crash, but when that guard fails it can quickly become deadly. The guard needs to hold up and perform the job it was designed to do so that the car's safety systems can do their jobs, and the 1998 regulation simply wasn't stringent enough. Even the new regulation that was announced weeks ago will allow guards that won't hold up in offset crashes. Thankfully, most trailers being sold today have guards that far exceed the new standard thanks to a decade of IIHS underride testing.

  • @cansiaeinundatio4701
    @cansiaeinundatio4701 Рік тому +1

    Government should stay in their lane.

    • @mikekilovictor4010
      @mikekilovictor4010 Рік тому +1

      GovERnMeNt ShOuLd StAy iN tHeiR lAnE

    • @cansiaeinundatio4701
      @cansiaeinundatio4701 Рік тому

      ​@Mike Kilo Victor Your benefactors have determined it's too dangerous to drive into the back of a semi truck so we need to make new regulations to protect you from your idiot self.🤣

    • @green5260
      @green5260 Рік тому

      how about having trailers with proper guards

    • @logitech4873
      @logitech4873 Рік тому

      @@cansiaeinundatio4701 Why are you arguing against better safety?

    • @cansiaeinundatio4701
      @cansiaeinundatio4701 Рік тому

      @@logitech4873 I'm not. I'm arguing for less government regulation.

  • @fhsmarchingbandrookie9773
    @fhsmarchingbandrookie9773 2 роки тому

    Scooter drivers are dead

  • @davidvenegas6401
    @davidvenegas6401 3 роки тому +3

    I ❤ big government

    • @shahali1969
      @shahali1969 3 роки тому +4

      Wtf

    • @davidvenegas6401
      @davidvenegas6401 3 роки тому +2

      @@shahali1969 That regulation. We need more of it.😍😍😍

    • @shahali1969
      @shahali1969 3 роки тому +4

      @@davidvenegas6401 your crazy

    • @Coolguy-qe1mi
      @Coolguy-qe1mi 3 роки тому +5

      @@shahali1969 If it weren't for big government you'd be working 12 hour days, inhaling delicious leaded gasoline, and have big corporations ruling over everyone.

    • @davidvenegas6401
      @davidvenegas6401 3 роки тому +1

      @@shahali1969 Better crazy than decapitated due to poor regulations.

  • @WhatIfJojoSiwaWasGay
    @WhatIfJojoSiwaWasGay Рік тому

    God, how much do I not want to go to a dinner party with this man.