UA-cam, please stop with the censorship. It’s getting old. As a reminder for all uncensored cases and exclusive cases, follow the podcast 'SERIALously' it’s completely free and available on all podcast platforms. Link to Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/serialously/id1519456164 Link to Spotify:open.spotify.com/show/6HdheEH8WeMTHoe5da34qU *Update. The images and videos found show that Madeline’s assaults dated back to 2022.
UA-cam literally allows the most misogynistic content, white supremacist content, racist/xenophobic content, trans/homophobic content, and even the most full blown openly anti-Semitic content. But they remove videos about actual events, because...? Words they don't like, but if you spread hate online it's fine, they'll send you a check. Literally there are whole channels that are 100% just transphobia/homophobia/ general white supremacist content, and UA-cam sends them a check and pockets their money with zero problem about them spreading their "opinion" online. But you told us about something that actually happened? Bye Felicia! 😂 😂
I listened to this on Spotify Annie, and it's ridiculous that UA-cam censors ANYTHING and EVERYTHING! anyways great podcast. Listening to you makes my day. I appreciate you true crime bestie!
UA-cam is a private company that has reasons for not allowing certain words. You don't have to like it and you're still getting your money. They censor those specific words for your ADVERTISERS. Your advertisers do not want to be associated with certain graphic terms. Don't want to be censored? Then don't have ads on your videos. Something tells me you don't want to lose all that ad money you get, right? That's what I thought.
@@hollydaugherty2620if only horrendous acts were not done. Then it wouldn’t be said rather than shelter the world of real words. It doesn’t make it happen less to not say them
happened in my family and my idiot mother still loves to victim blame my late sister, even though she knew what kind of monster she brought into that house.
The fact that she kept saying “we” dropped her off stood out to me immediately. Very very strange, considering the fact that we now know that no one dropped her off.
YES! When I first heard her interview I thought, OK, Mom was there at drop-off, it must be an abduction. Then to find out she was NOT with them at drop-off made me think she’s definitely covering for the boyfriend somehow, because that “WE” was definitely intended to make people think she was there.
I'm barely into this story and that already seemed weird to me. Mom seems involved from the first clip to me just from the way she was talking... Bizzare
That little girl looks so sad. She has dark circles under her eyes. He is the monster, but I also think her mother needs to be held accountable for bringing him around her child.
She looks so much older - and that breaks my heart, her innocence was STOLEN and then her life. Madeline I am so sorry! I wish she told someone at school or another trusted grown up bc I don't think her Mom could be trusted. It is so hard for kids to do that. God - how can this happen?! she was abused for YEARS!
@@kathyparker5899 absolutely heartbreaking. But I can’t help but notice the mom and the boyfriend’s appearance has DRASTICALLY changed compared to older photos, too. They both look totally different. Mom used to be kinda cute and now she’s all frumpy. I get she’s going thru a lot but it’s more than that. And he wasn’t terrible looking either. Judging by the pics Maddie wasn’t but a year or two younger so it wasn’t that long ago but looking at the mom, she’s aged 10 years in that year or two. I don’t know what was going on in that house but I have a feeling there’s a lot more to the story than we may ever know.
The minute the mother said she saw Maddie getting ready for school at 8 my heart dropped because the police stated she was dead long before 8 ..... she has to be covering up or she knows .... that poor angel xx
@@mera8785 Maybe. There were also reports that cops said they saw her on security camera walking around at the church before school. It's hard to determine if someone is alive or not in a car on security footage. Unless they can see them covered in blood or shot.
The lack of the MOM’S emotions reminded me more of Chris Watts to be completely honest. She knows WAY more than she’s ever going to admit. She is just as big of a monster as the boyfriend in my opinion. People are DESPERATE not to be alone, so much so that they will put their children in harms way. So heartbreaking.
Exactly. I think she wasn't innocent in the abuse either. I've never seen a mom in a situation like this be so emotionless for their kid, very weird. Even that case of the rednecks with the abusive dad and a daughter was missing the mom was cold but showed some signs of it. Very weird.
Yes. This. She was trying not to laugh when she got interrupted. I've seen so many cases of single women protecting their pedo bf they don't care about their kids at all. Is not just loneliness they really really don't care like her face. Zero cares.
This case is absolutely sick, mothers stop letting your BOYFRIEND around your children!!! (Yes men AND women also do commit these horrible crimes, I’ve been noticing an uptick in these crimes specifically with mothers. Some of these men PREY on vulnerable mothers in order to get closer to their children. We all need to do our job and stay vigilant, and protect all children, from ANY and ALL abusers)
@@Lady_shelbsofc!! I’ve specifically been seeing a lot of cases with women and their boyfriends, but yes absolutely protect all children and any man or woman should keep their boyfriends/girlfriends away from their children!!!!
@@Lady_shelbsIn fact kids who do not live with their real dads are statistically 40 TIMES more likely to suffer abuse or fall victim to homicide.This therefore clearly is a divorced/single mother problem, not a "parents" problem. It is also a no-fault divorce, mother-favoring family court issue, those need to be reformed.
my mom still isn’t dating (i’m 23 & my parents got divorced at 7) my dad got remarried within three years and my step mom was a nightmare, im so glad that my mom NEVER brought a man around me! i was always her number one priority and i am forever grateful for that!!!!
My mom wasn't the greatest mom she made a lot of mistakes which we have talked about a lot in my adult years. The one thing I always will tell her she did right was never bringing a man into the house. I'm 35 and she still has never introuced a man into my life or her grandchildrens life. I appreciate that more than she will ever know.❤
This made me teary eyed! My mom also chose her bfs over me my whole life and as a mother to a 12 and 6 year old they are the exact reason I will not date til they are grown
He didn't hide the photo evidence on his phone. He felt quite comfortable having a gallery full of these images. His level of comfort leads me to believe he didnt have to hide it from the mother. Then her demeanor and interviews... mom at the very least was aware, at worst was involved.
@keepitreal665 I read this as meaning before she went missing. Like they were in there the whole time and only reset when they reported her missing. He was just living his daily l8fe with that disgusting, depraved, torturous abuse. Absolute pig.
Accidentally factory reset is a term that doesn't exist. Have you ever reset your phone? It's incredibly hard to do! That's like accidentally solving a rubiks cube
Did anyone else notice when the reporter asked the mother if there’s anything people need to know about Madeline, she never once said she loved her, I kept waiting for her to say it but she never did. Rest in peace Madeline I hope you get the justice you deserve xx
I have noticed that two. And on top of it, her demeanour is so monotone. She is not crying, nothing. I really do feel that she knew more than what she showed/told.🤨and she is also moving a lot like shaking almost.
I noticed that too. I also noticed that she was a bit lost for words at first and said such mundane things. As a mother of two, if something like this happened and a reporter asked me the same question, I would be going off nonstop, tears rolling down my face. I don't even know if I'd be able to talk. I would be absolutely hysterical. This "mother" didn't shed a single damn tear! That interview really creeped me out!!
I’m a Mama of 2. A girl and a boy. I can tell the moment they walk in the door from school how they are feeling…if they are tired, frustrated, bullied, happy, silly or down. IMO there’s no way the mom didn’t know of the long term sexual abuse happening. No fucking way.
I agree. There are some sick, predatory females/mothers in this world too. It’s not just men. They all 3 slept in the same room. There is absolutely no way, no way humanly possible that Mom wasnt complicit.
@Blakeeames, I am a mother of 5 adult children and I can still read each and every one of them! A good mother knows her children,Like mama bears we protect all our cubs differently A mama bear will release her cubs into the wild to fend for themselves.Human mothers will forever be motherly no matter how old our children become .I heard early on in this case that Maddie tried telling her mom and she didn't want to believe her? So if the authorities find any family members that Maddie tried to tell about that sicko disgusting excuse of a man and the nasty horrific things done to her need to also be investigated and brought to justice!? I.m.o. I think this is why we haven't heard any latest updates? L.E.'s need to dot their I's and cross their T's and have all their ducks in a roll!#Justice4Maddie🩷💜🩷💜Soar high Angel 😇 you did nothing wrong!!
I don’t have any kids but I talk to my mom on the phone every day. She can tell by how I say “Hello” what kind of day I had. Some parents miss things. Some kids are good at hiding depression and other symptoms of mental health. But that? I don’t think so.
I think it’s weird as hell that the mom didn’t go to her own daughter’s birthday party. Not sure why that sticks out for me but it’s strange. 13 is such a big milestone.
1000% the way she looked when he asked what did you last talk about it. She seemed so surprised and had to come up with something fast. She is guilty of something
I agree! As a Mother , if I had to work on my Daughters 13th Birthday , I'm calling in or I'm having at least a cake with my Daughter on Her Birthday and a Party for Her that weekend! Where is the actual video of that poor Child's Supposed Birthday Party?? It may have just been the Pedo and Madeline at that "party".......The Mother is going to be charged also!
Madeline turned 13 on February 22nd earlier in the week before the family birthday celebration on Sunday the 25th… her mother was with her on her actual birthday. Having Sterns sitting in the back during this interview is very controlling and creepy. Annie-Elise thank you for all you do, I truly appreciate all the hard work you put into each and every case you cover.
There is no way he had all that content on his phone and the mother did not know. If she checked her daughters phone she would have checked his UNLESS she knew it didn’t happen that way
In so many cases, that's exactly true. And it's heartbreaking 💔 😢 Any acts of violence, abuse, neglect, cruelty against a child makes me wish I could personally deliver the punishment to the guilty. 😢
The mom literally looks like every person who’s lying looks like. Deer in headlights look, shaking her leg, very calm. She is acting literally so guilty.
Yeah the mother is super sus. The way she tried to push the narrative to the media of "My daughter is so forgetful she has ADHD that's why she forgot her phone before we dropped her off" No... she didn't forget her phone because she never left for school and "we", which includes you, didn't drop her off. Wtf? What mother willingly chooses to deceive people who are actively trying to get her child back home. Her own mother let a demon in her home and protected him. If this woman doesn't get behind bars, there will be no justice for Maddie
@@_balafreoh stop. Though I agree the mom had to have known something mom saying that she forgot her phone at home before school and the fact that she is forgetful because she has ADHD does not make her suspicious! I'm sure she does have ADHD and it is not strange that she sometimes forgets her phone...none of that is suspicious 🙄
Growing up, my mother dated a series of abusers/predators. Please protect your children. Do not turn a blind eye or trust anyone blindly. My heart breaks for Madeline 🕊️
10000% true. I met my husband when my son was 1 and his daughter was 1 as well . He's always been an amazing father to my kids. At 6 I had a suspicion that my step daughter was BEING SA'd (coming to visits with yeast infections and bacterial infections at the time I was 24 and had NEVER had any of the issues she was having. Long story short I reported to dcyf, police, family court, Dr's EVERYONE I could think of that was a MANDATED REPORTER and NOTHING was done until she spoke up at 12 years old!!! Thebio mother had SA'd her and her baby sister (3 at the time) had been raped by the mom and her many bfs while bio mom held them down. Still one bf got 77 years in prison, mom got nothing in that state because she PROVED (IN TN court because her rapist bf was in the army) the videos and photos of her sa'ing her children were taken in another state (NH) and now NH HAS DONE NOTHING!!! OH SORRY SHE HAS TO REGISTER FOR SELLING RAPE VIDEOS OF HER KIDS!
Same here…it haunted me and weighed me down for many years, but becoming a mom gave me a purpose again - I stopped the cycle, never allowed anyone to be alone with him unless it was his dad or grandma. I’m so sorry you also had to feel this pain, but I hope you’re doing so amazing now ❤
People need to be more careful with their children. My daughter is 13 and I choose not to date but when I have I don’t let men come to my home because I feel it is not only my home but my daughter’s safe space. I’m not going to have men running through the place where we lay our heads at night. It is just too risky.
This is a hard pill to swallow but theres a lot of people who couldnt care less... We should accept this fact instead of the turmoil of fighting against that. You cant make a bad person good. It never happens.
I just find it annoying when reporters do this, they know they are not going to get an answer, let alone the correct one, just makes the reporters look stupid.
Shouting out rhetorical questions about if he’s a child “r-word” and “ped*phile” is to expose him and shame him seeing how he’s obviously guilty, it’s more than appropriate. That same short clip will be shown millions of times across all true crime shows that cover this atrocity. Being “woke” is what I would call the judge for not even naming his charges when he fully deserved being exposed and shamed right then and forever. And being “woke” is exactly what this platform is seeing how you can’t say anything about child hunters and that right there is very telling of the ones running the platform who are far-Left wokies who protect all these monsters as much as possible, they are one and the same. The Left are well known for their extreme desire to harm children and protect their islands from normies who might expose them at all costs. They are the ones who you don’t want to leave your kids with. Look up how in California, Governor Gaven Newsome (Democrat) legalized sex with children down to 14 years old. It’s the law now in that state. Soon they will be making laws that allow them to just go pick their child brides. The media is all in on protecting Democrats at all costs, constantly telling lies and half truths to push them. Like Republicans won’t approve the border bill but fail to mention that the bill has barely anything in it for defending our borders, 15% is all that is allocated for the border and the rest is fluff and money to launder through the Ukraine while they lie about everything surrounding that debacle too. It’s all fake news on the media now and most is all far Left, like 98% of the news if from the far-Left and it’s all narrative driven propaganda, all of it. I hope everyone gets it soon because we’re all in real trouble and we’re all in this together. It’s us vs the elites of this establishment they seized to enslave us, and yes they stole “it” too.
I wonder if Madeleine was pregnant or if he was drugging her to take advantage of her and then she accidentally OD. The mom seems very detached. She couldn’t find a way to attend her daughter’s party? Reschedule it for a day when she’s off from work? We truly never know what goes on in people’s home. It’s scary.
I keep thinking of mom's first words "I feel like I can't breathe." I don't believe this was accidental. It will come out. This poor girl lived a nightmare. Poor Maddie.
Maybe she was intentionally absent. Some parents facilitate things for their S/O. The mom is sus as heck, she had to know what was going on at some level.
Seriously, I work alot too but I always planned my kids birthday parties on my day off, my one day off. And to let a boyfriend take my daughter to school? No way ..
@@jivalucia3916 I knew someone who lost her little girl to a cot death (SIDs). She went in to work and did her nightshift that evening. Nobody at work knew she lost her only child until over a week later when she asked for the day off for her funeral. She broke down in the middle of a shopping centre about 3 months later. That's when she accepted it was real and started to grieve. Because she appeared so unemotional girls at worked gossiped and said she must have killed her. It wasn't until the inquest months after that they accepted she didn't do it . We all react in different ways.
@@josephk4310that’s not trauma that’s dissociation because she knows she never had time for her child and now this happened! Yes, everyone reacts differently but this is straight dissociation because she’s feeling guilt!!!!
Boyfriend said ( before they found her body), ‘she WAS a sweet, kind girl’….. referring to her in past tense. Also, ‘please bring her home IF you FIND her’….. uh?? I find that verbiage very strange. The dry tears from both the boyfriend and mother speaks volumes!!!
My mom's friend lives in Orlando and her son goes to Madeline's school. They told us that the police went to the school to explain to the kids what happened once they found her body. Kids were yelling, crying and parents picked everyone earlier that day. Everyone in that school was heartbroken for her!
My heart goes out to those kids, when I was that age I had a close friend pass away after being in a bad car accident with a drunk driver, going through grief at that age changes you. I hope they all have good support systems and therapy available to them.
I honestly feel that the Mom knows more than she's saying. She never cried during either of her interviews. Her story to the detectives wasn't truthful, according to the reports from the detectives.
I find her really odd…that stupid noise in the background of the interview …she smiled and rolled her eyes….id be a snotty snivelling mess if it was my daughter…she’s totally detached…either that or she doesn’t care.,.bloody strange woman
I agree too. There had to have been red flags. I refuse to believe Madeline didn’t even *hint* that something was wrong especially since it was happening in their home.
And yet, you don't shed a tear. I would be absolutely frantic! I'm pretty sure that the boyfriend was involved and so was mom. That poor child- being betrayed by the person she loved most. RIP Madeline Soto. The boy friend doesn't shed a tear either. Our daughter, yuk. Creep.
The second she said her 13 year old daughter probably didn't know their full address, I started wondering. It's been a while since kindergarten, but I'm pretty sure they still use kids' names and addresses to help kids learn to read and write.
Hi I’m sorry you had a bad experience as a child but can I ask why you never told your mom? I’m just wondering because I have an 8 year old and I always try to talk to her about these sort of things so as a mom I’d like to know why a child wouldn’t want to tell a parent.
@@haliear01multiple reasons they dont tell. Try watching a movie about it together. Talk along the way. Watch very closely her entire life. Predators are everywhere.
All parents are supposed to put their parental duties ahead of all else. But when it comes to them being divorced, they tend to choose the opposite because of their desperation for a new relationship. This is why blended households need to be inspected (By CPS) because most kids often get abused or even killed all because of parental negligence by the biological parent.
I was abused as a kid and i was always running away, and the cops would just take me back home! Back to my abuser and i can totally understand this poor child wanting to get away from this monster! Just remember if a child would rather live on the street or in this case “in the woods” what the heck are they trying to get away from!?
Exactly! I'm so sorry for what you were put through. I'm really glad that you are here with us today and are able to tell your story, I'm sure it helps many other victims. You are a very brave fighter, a courageous warrior and survivor. 💖 💐 💪
@@mjarboesdf thank you, your words are so touching, yes i made it, and im thankful for that, but every time i see a case like this it brings it all the back, the fear, helplessness and humiliation, it stays with you for life, but these poor babies taken by evil, who will never get to make peace with their past because their future was stolen its almost unbearable. RIP Maddie
In that interview, Stephan lurking in the background, smoking his vape, trying to calm his nerves and making sure Jennifer sticks to the story he gave her.
The description of what was found on the boyfriend’s phone made me physically sick. That poor little girl. I can’t even imagine. I have a 14 year old so it hit me hard. RIP baby girl. ❤
I felt sick also. My daughter is in middle school and I can't imagine the pain and horror that poor girl went thru. I don't understand the mother who was supposed to be protecting her! I'm sure the daughter was difficult to raise, what 12 year old isn't? As a mom (and someone who works in a school), I'm hyper aware of how people treat/act around kids, not just mine. She definitely saw/felt red flags and I guarantee that Madeline wasn't his first victim.
Mom looked more anxious than she did devastated. With the constant shaking/bouncing. Missing her 13th birthday party, lack of emotion,shows she had a total disconnect with her daughter.
13 is a milestone birthday - it should be a special day for the child. Missing your daughter's 13th birthday party just shows the lack of care and love for the child!! Her 23th birthday should have been a big deal, not her date of death!!
I just have a hard time believing that at 13 years' old she did not know her address. Did they just move there? My daughter knew our address at 3. I can't stress enough how your children should know full names, addresses, and phone numbers.
I heard an interview with Maddie’s best friend. It sounded like Maddie was at her school one year, she didn’t see her another year and then they became friends in and since 4th grade. But most parents teach their children their home address by kindergarten or first grade.
Protocol at my school: if a kid is not present first period and their parents did not call therm in sick, we will call the parents, within the next hour, to inform them their kid is not in school. So when a kid is not accounted for, the parents know asap.
The schools in my town don't call if they miss unless it's 3 days in a row. I took my oldest daughter out and put her in cyber school in 6th grade after she got diagnosed with type 1 diabetes
Yes and law enforcement is well aware of that too. These criminals who think they're so smart and have covered all their bases and their a$$, are completely clueless about the methods law enforcement uses to solve cases. And now in such a digital world, it's a lot of times much faster too.
You've got to go through at LEAST 2 prompts yo factory reset. I know my phone asks me if I want to reset, yes or no? Then they ask me if I'm sure so you have to click yes, twice.
When will violent crime slow down it gets worse every day and these monsters are getting caught left and right making all the same mistakes as the monsters the day before. Digital footprints, CCTV, NOTHING can be deleted from ANY of our devices, Hidden GPS tracking in our vehicles. EVERYONE will get caught! There was a time when the only way to get away with murder is by having absolutely no connection to the person they killed but now that’s not saving them anymore with everything I just listed. But still these animals are simply not getting it yet 🤷🏼♂️
What makes this case even more horrifying is so many people I know knew this family. I’m local to the case and in the days immediately after her disappearance I watched on Facebook as people posted “help my friend find her daughter!” and it gave me flashbacks to the Parkland shooting where people on my page were asking to help find their family and friends. Absolutely chilling, I hope that man rots. There truly are no words
My daughter got lost for 10 minutes at a shopping centre when she was around 6. She knew my cell phone number and asked the lady working at target to call me, which she did. She also knew our home address. She’s neurotypical and now 25. My son who has autism and adhd and is almost 9 knows my phone, dads phone and our home address. We taught him just in case he ever gets lost. Typed it up and stuck it on his playroom wall. Went over it with him a few times, then at random moments we would test him. I don’t believe Maddi, at 13, didn’t know her own address, that’s BS!
She might know her address but she wouldn’t necessarily know how to get there from wherever she was supposed to have been. I’m 28 and if I go even 15 min from home I’m lost without my gps. I think that was the point. And we know she didn’t have her cell phone.
I wonder if their house had immediate neighbours? Like security cctv cameras, or ring doorbells? Wonder if neighbours heard any arguments/fighting, raised voices and shouting etc? Hope they find some footage a bit like the Chris Watts' neighbours.
I think the fact that she first said that the last time she saw her daughter was the night before and then in a different interview switched it and said she saw her that morning getting dressed for school shows that the mother knows something.
They had to notice! Come on! She's a baby and she's going through hell. Yes, tweens are moody, but there's no way the mom didn't see the bf's creepy gaze or the child's discomfort.
It’s hard to look at her pictures and look at her eyes and her smile knowing she was hiding this horrible secret of the ab*se and she was secretly suffering
I cried hearing the details. My oldest daughter just turned 13 & my youngest daughter turns 12 this month. I couldn't imagine what this child went through. May she rest in peace & this monster never sees the sun again.
I hope you see this Annie. I think you should give a disclaimer next time you speak to graphically about child pornography. It’s gross that you even went into that much detail at all but I know it’s your channel you can do what you want. But as a listener it made me sick to my stomach and you could have spared the details. Anyway, I think you should atleast tell your listeners beforehand.
@xstrobelightx9 I guess I mis heard. I didn’t think she was talking about a child when she said that. I still don’t think it needed to be said though. Way too graphic. People don’t need those images of what happened to this child in their mind.
I agree there’s so many holes in this story. If the school was next to the church how did she just disappear without a trace! Also I’m not sure how did the mom go to her school to pick her up. And the school was closed already? How the heck do you not know yours kids school hours
@@shaynavelazquez5351 From everything I have seen from the case, she went to pick her up, she wasn’t there and then the mum drove around to check. After returning to the school, the school was then shut.
You weren't lying Annie. Couple times my stomach flipped. When you read the affidavit I almost clicked off. Disgusting. And what's worse is these kinds of predators do not get the time/punishment they deserve. More often than not they are let back out into society 😭
I see she’s constantly hiding her bottom lip. Says um alot. I would think she’s said the story so many times that by this interview it should just flow. IMO.
This poor little girl had been sexually abused for years and the “mom” had no idea? Ridiculous! She said the last time she saw her daughter was around 8am in her room before the school yet Police already pronounced that Madeline had to be murdered right after her birthday party 😢 the night before... They are both psychopaths and predators! Torturing your own child for your sick boyfriend’s sexual gratification is mindblowing! Mark my words people -the “mother” is just as guilty as this creep 🤮🤯
Did you notice the mother never said she loves Maddie during the interview she said she hope she comes home she’s hope she’s not hurt but she never said she loves her
She did say it in the first interview, if I'm not mistaken. But she did say it in one. She doesn't seem emotional at all tho, no tears from her either.
Zero tears from either of them. She’s really only talking about what all they did like covering their tracks.. not much about missing her daughter.. I had more emotions when my cat disappeared for 2 days..
BLA is mostly nonsense or too subjective to be of real use. The courts don't allow it into evidence. The police will occasionally use a BLA "expert" to consult, but police still turn to psychics occasionally. They may as well read entrails or sacrifice chickens.
I love how you point out in his interview he didn’t look at the camera and mixed his words. Mom did the exact same thing. None of them made a plea for her to come home. Both of them had head shakes (subconsciously) in all the wrong places. Mom knows more than she is letting on.
I am eight minutes in the first red flag was the mother started out saying “WE took her to school”. She kept referring to we. Then it turned to her boyfriend. Her BOYFRIEND. took Maddie to school
The mom immediately gave me Chris Watts vibes as well. She recounted the events like she was reading off a laundry list, rather than giving every detail so that someone might hear something that could actually help find her daughter.
I was getting deja vu with this interview, especially when the cat feeder went off! It's strange how it can feel almost feel paranormal when something like that happens while uncovering a dark and twisted murder.
Hey Annie! Have you heard about Sebastian Rogers? He’s missing from Hendersonville TN. Been missing for almost two weeks now. I live near where he went missing from and things just aren’t adding up. Would love your take on it and any additional awareness for a 15 year old autistic boy currently missing.
Not that I don't love everything you do, but I will have to bow out of this episode due to my own personal trauma. Please keep up the case coverage, this child deserved so much more. Love you girlie!
It was hard for me too, you’re not alone. Went through a similar situation as this poor girl with a foster father. I’m honestly surprised I wasn’t killed. My heart hurts for her so much.
What mother does not go to her own daughter’s birthday party when she lives with her? And how at 13 years old does she not know her address or how to get home? Sorry my son at 4 could tell you that! Mom and bf gave me Watts vibes from the beginning! Too many questions with no answers! Please keep us updated on this case! May sweet Madeline rest in peace!
I was thinking maybe it was a party her bio dad threw for her? I have no idea if he's in the picture or not, but parents with split custody do give kids parties that the other parent doesn't participate in because they aren't amicable. And I think Mom does have some kind of intellectual disability and isn't the most saftey-minded, and/or Madeleine is also possibly not able to easily retain that type of information and understand why it's important. Just my speculation.
You said exactly what I did! My daughter's knows our address by heart since she was 7! I'd have her recite it to me, and we'd make a song out of it. I feel sketchy vibes from both of the adults, tbh
Even in the absence of any shenanigans or crime, if someone told me they “accidentally factory reset” their phone, I’d immediately call BS because there’s no “accidentally” resetting a device nowadays. There are multiple “are you really sure you want to do this?” prompts someone has to clear before a reset is performed. Even the most tech-illiterate people know better than that…
First you have to specifically go looking for the reset so people don’t do accidentally, and even if you click by mistake pop ups came asking you really sure? Unless he is illiterate, don’t know any English or for some reason never got that red buttons mean danger is total bs.
She never once initiated a conversation directed to Maddie. Or any potential abductors. She knew the child was dead. Another ARREST is coming. IMO. And stop diagnosing kids and teems as ADHD. All kids are forgetful, easily distracted, scatter- brained. Stop allowing yourself to be convinced that there is some mental illness, just because they are behaving age appropriate.
I absolutely HATE Child molesters. My stepfather abused and molested me from 12 years old until 2 months before my 15th birthday, the day I was taken from my mother's custody because my stepfather attempted to rape me. I absolutely despise this monster. He is not sad whatsoever. He wants everyone to think he is upset and is very capable of making people believe this BUT underneath it all, he is joyful because he got what he wanted. Jennifer is equally to blame. Just like my mother, she is going to lie for her man. She showed absolutely no emotion when speaking about Madeline. I am sad that Madeline had to experience the abuse. She deserved to be loved and protected. RIP Madeline. 😢
I understand you completely... My mother kept the guy and sent me to a girls home... Saved me maybe....its long ago but to this day it pops up sometimes in my heart..
@tigerlily102511 my stepfather also molested me as a child and when I told my pathetic mother she said it was not her that did it so why am I angry with her. She continued to live with him because he denied it until he passed away 20 years later. She is a demon her and her pathetic husband.
I really appreciate how much you genuinely care about your subscribers. Warnings and disclaimers tend to lead to less views, and you do it anyway. That speaks volumes. You are a staple here, and I couldn't picture youtube without you on it. Thank you for what you do. I'm sure ur job of making these videos is harder than they are to watch, which is why I watch you religiously. You give a voice to the voiceless, and it deserves to be seen.
I love those hard hitting reporters that just straight up yell at the criminals during their perp walk bombarding them with questions. I’ve seen videos from the 1970s of reporters who did really deep diggin on these criminals, they made a big difference inpublic opinion. The hard hitting reporting & thorough reporting like yours makes society hold others to a higher standard.
I have a daughter with 4 children, after her divorce, she never dated again. I’m proud of her, for putting the children first. This is exactly why children come first!!!!
I agree with you. When my girls' dad and I split up (he was very abusive, physically and verbally to me) I only dated one guy, very briefly after being single for about 2 years and NEVER even thought of letting him around my kids. After it didn't work out with him, I haven't considered even trying to date. I've been single for almost 6 years, no flings or anything, just my girls and I because I'm honestly terrified of something happening to them!
You do realise there are loads of bio parents that assault their children too. And they’re are plenty of other problems that come from single parents too
@@danicap9565 ever heard of the Cinderella Effect? Literally everyone of every title has abused children, but some are simply more likely to do so than others
Unless the ex did something to the children idu why someone wouldn't want to move on? It gives the children a male role model that they need. Children cannot be your whole life, yes I said it! Do a background check if you have to.
The way she keeps saying she’s very forgetful and accidentally left her phone so she can’t be tracked. It’s like she’s really trying to point out that the poor girl left the phone at home accidentally to take suspension off her and that POS man
She definitely knows what happened to her daughter. So often these women are so obsessed with these men that they are willing to do whatever it takes to keep the man.
I think it’s denial- like she doesn’t want to believe she intentionally left it to run away. I can usually tune into people and despite the optics- I don’t think mom knew. I think she’s saying things without thinking which later made her look like she’s lying. I just don’t get accomplice. She’s shaking so is obviously disturbed but I get a sense of denial here like she actually thought she would be found or come home and it was an angsty teen thing.
@@SematerySyren I don't think she was an accomplice. I think she was an accessory after the fact at most. Or most likely just witnessed the crime. At the very least didn't know any of these things she is saying and was asleep when it happened. Never saw her at all that morning. So lying. If she was up at the same time and saw what she was wearing as she claims in her earlier police statement then she was there when she was killed. Because Madeline was killed before she was placed in the car.
I honestly think this monster Stephan wrote that text on Maddie's phone about her wanting to live "in the woods when she turns 13 years old." Maddie was possibly pregnant by him and he was planning on getting rid of her after her birthday. My woman's intuition is telling me the mother was 100% involved also!
Who did she send that text to? I know in my teen years I would tell a friend I want to run away if I got in trouble. It was just drama from me because I was in trouble for something. I had great parents. Sometimes I would even tell them I’m going to run away. Of course they knew I was just being dramatic. Obviously, in hindsight the woods comment looks very sad, but if you didn’t know what was happening wouldn’t you just think your child is being silly? I have no idea who she sent that text to.
In this interview (before they found the body) mom is talking to the press, but looking up towards the ceiling, not making eye contact with anyone. To me, this is a tell. If she was truly upset about her "missing" daughter, she should be crying, sad, upset, scared, etc. She looks almost like she's talking about the weather, not her missing child! When you can't look people in the eye, it usually means that you're telling lies!! Her story just isn't gelling!
@@moapettersson3630 None of us know the situation enough to judge her. She looks completely brain washed to me, possibly drugged. A lot of these cases aren't what they seem.
This breaks my heart. What makes me even more concerned is that just by looking at her pictures I can tell something was wrong , she has severe dark circles under her eyes and a sadness that’s deep rooted that she tried hiding behind her smile. How did mom not see this but I … a stranger spotted it right away. Poor baby 😔 this is how her nightmare ended and I’m sure she’s been going through this majority of the time that man was in her life. Devastatingly enough that day she probably said she was going to tell on him to end this brutality on her. RIP Angel baby 😔🤍💔 🕊
Her face was etched with sadness and pain, even behind her pretty smile. Poor little girl. It hurts my heart so much to know what she had been going through. She is safe now, thankfully. May her murderers (stepofile and mother because how could she not know what was going on) pay for what they did to her. 🥺
In the tv interview the mother said the last time she saw Madeleine was the night before she disappeared, but in the police interview she said she saw her getting ready in the morning of the disappearance
Just like she uses ‘we’👉I think she’s addressing the interviewer w WE as in its a family affair 👉it’s easier than confusing people w he, she, I, me, they👉I think she’s on the A spectrum?!
Thank you for your compassionate coverage of this disturbing, tragic case. I recommend your podcasts and UA-cam channel to all of my friends who follow true crime. You now have a gang of nurses watching and listening…😊
Yeah, because he knows that she's already dead - he killed her, so he has to think harder to make up the story! As Judge Judy says "If you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory!!!"
She talked to her friends about the woods when they were talking about a nuclear bomb hitting. The friends said they’d go together and live in the woods.. thanks for doing such a great job. I’m sick of podcasters letting their followers call in and say absurd sickening things.❤
We live in Saint Cloud off of Hickory Tree and Nolte. This has shocked our community. I thought things like this didn’t happen here in our little town. It’s disgusting how her mother acted during the interview. As a mother myself I would be devastated! Her memorial is down the street and we visit it often as a family. I have taken this opportunity to remind my children NOBODY should touch you and they should tell me or someone at school if someone is inappropriate. I pray for Maddies soul. She deserves better!! Shame on the adults in her life for not paying more attention to her!!
She seems too coherent and normal in the interview. My daughter once went missing for 2 hours and i was a mess,, could barely string a sentence together and crying feeling like i couldn't breathe. It just seems strange to me
Agreed! Mine went missing for about 15 minutes once and I swear my soul left my body. We had to have a talk about everyone knowing that we're playing hide and seek and to come out when mommy or daddy say to. But in that mom's situation, I'd be an absolute mess!!!
Mine went missing for 20 minutes and I LOST MY SHIT. I went nuts I ran up and down blocks screaming. I went to her friends in the park, I was crying and panicking. She just walked a friend home...
Totally agree. My youngest went missing in our house when he was a toddler. I went from calm to nutjob to 1000% freaking out in seconds. I was running around the neighborhood full throttle. (My husband found him. He was playing hide & seek but didn’t tell us. Found him in the basement giggling. We didn’t know he could climb down the staircase) I didn’t let him out of my sight for days after that.
I knew a “Mom” who’s daughter told her that moms bf made her uncomfortable, all us adults spoke up about the way he looked at her and she acted JUST like this. That’s the face of someone who KNOWS what her bf is capable of but Mom doesn’t want people to know she chose her BF over her daughter and be seen as neglectful for it. And his “emotions” seem fake and forced af. Won’t make eye contact and seems to be hiding a smug smile behind those fake tears. Makes me sick
I knew a girl who's mom called her a slut for trying to steal her man. The girl was telling her mom he had been sexualy abusing her. The mom took the boyfriends side and called her crazy.
My heart is breaking for this little girl, I remember getting the amber alert for her too, I live 22 minutes from where the found her. All I know is that the mother was involved, she changed her story several times even suggested that her daughter wanted to “walk” the rest of the way after stating that they dropped her off, now it’s just him that did it, cool as a cucumber not a damn tear, and was already speaking about her in the past tense before they found her. I’m praying that she gets arrested and that Maddie gets full justice.
UA-cam, please stop with the censorship. It’s getting old. As a reminder for all uncensored cases and exclusive cases, follow the podcast 'SERIALously' it’s completely free and available on all podcast platforms.
Link to Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/serialously/id1519456164
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*Update. The images and videos found show that Madeline’s assaults dated back to 2022.
Crazy how much trans hate, and full blown Nazi shit they allow on the platform, but they remove people for... Using words with legal definitions? 😂
UA-cam literally allows the most misogynistic content, white supremacist content, racist/xenophobic content, trans/homophobic content, and even the most full blown openly anti-Semitic content.
But they remove videos about actual events, because...? Words they don't like, but if you spread hate online it's fine, they'll send you a check.
Literally there are whole channels that are 100% just transphobia/homophobia/ general white supremacist content, and UA-cam sends them a check and pockets their money with zero problem about them spreading their "opinion" online.
But you told us about something that actually happened? Bye Felicia! 😂 😂
I listened to this on Spotify Annie, and it's ridiculous that UA-cam censors ANYTHING and EVERYTHING! anyways great podcast. Listening to you makes my day. I appreciate you true crime bestie!
UA-cam is a private company that has reasons for not allowing certain words. You don't have to like it and you're still getting your money. They censor those specific words for your ADVERTISERS. Your advertisers do not want to be associated with certain graphic terms. Don't want to be censored? Then don't have ads on your videos. Something tells me you don't want to lose all that ad money you get, right? That's what I thought.
@@hollydaugherty2620if only horrendous acts were not done. Then it wouldn’t be said rather than shelter the world of real words. It doesn’t make it happen less to not say them
Some women are so desperate to have men in their lives that they forget that their children are more important and need to be heard and protected.
That would be MOST divorced/single mothers.
happened in my family and my idiot mother still loves to victim blame my late sister, even though she knew what kind of monster she brought into that house.
Exactly I would never take a man over my children no way no how
I agree ☝️ @gnbblessedblessed4 Life
True but you're making assumptions at this point
The fact that she kept saying “we” dropped her off stood out to me immediately. Very very strange, considering the fact that we now know that no one dropped her off.
YES! When I first heard her interview I thought, OK, Mom was there at drop-off, it must be an abduction. Then to find out she was NOT with them at drop-off made me think she’s definitely covering for the boyfriend somehow, because that “WE” was definitely intended to make people think she was there.
Exactly!!!!! I noticed that too😮😳 that sick b*tcH covering up for him for sure and definitely knew what was going on🤬🤬
I'm barely into this story and that already seemed weird to me. Mom seems involved from the first clip to me just from the way she was talking... Bizzare
Exactly. Showing solidarity with her man. Subconsciously or not, she was letting everyone know she had his back.
Need to arrest the Mom!!!!
That little girl looks so sad. She has dark circles under her eyes. He is the monster, but I also think her mother needs to be held accountable for bringing him around her child.
She looks so much older - and that breaks my heart, her innocence was STOLEN and then her life. Madeline I am so sorry! I wish she told someone at school or another trusted grown up bc I don't think her Mom could be trusted. It is so hard for kids to do that. God - how can this happen?! she was abused for YEARS!
I believe imo mom is involved
It breaks my heart to think of many other children are going thru the same right now
Poor Madeline. No one protected her. RIP and JUSTICE for Madeline
I think she was pregnant so he decided to get ride of her hoping nobody would find out that he’d been abusing her. And I think the mom knew.
@@ambergreene4527I agree with everything you said. He is a monster and she is his shadow.
@@kathyparker5899 absolutely heartbreaking. But I can’t help but notice the mom and the boyfriend’s appearance has DRASTICALLY changed compared to older photos, too. They both look totally different. Mom used to be kinda cute and now she’s all frumpy. I get she’s going thru a lot but it’s more than that. And he wasn’t terrible looking either. Judging by the pics Maddie wasn’t but a year or two younger so it wasn’t that long ago but looking at the mom, she’s aged 10 years in that year or two.
I don’t know what was going on in that house but I have a feeling there’s a lot more to the story than we may ever know.
The minute the mother said she saw Maddie getting ready for school at 8 my heart dropped because the police stated she was dead long before 8 ..... she has to be covering up or she knows .... that poor angel xx
Maybe. Or the estimated time of death could be wrong.
@@thehalfricanguythe cops saw her unalive body in his car at like 740 am though. Mom is guilty.
@@mera8785 Maybe. There were also reports that cops said they saw her on security camera walking around at the church before school. It's hard to determine if someone is alive or not in a car on security footage. Unless they can see them covered in blood or shot.
@@mera8785 we should know definitive information in the next few weeks. It’s all speculation until then.
She even said “we” dropped her off… she’s a liar
The lack of the MOM’S emotions reminded me more of Chris Watts to be completely honest. She knows WAY more than she’s ever going to admit. She is just as big of a monster as the boyfriend in my opinion. People are DESPERATE not to be alone, so much so that they will put their children in harms way. So heartbreaking.
I get that vibe too or she knows he did it and she’s protecting that creature in a way cause she’s using “we” too much
Exactly. I think she wasn't innocent in the abuse either. I've never seen a mom in a situation like this be so emotionless for their kid, very weird.
Even that case of the rednecks with the abusive dad and a daughter was missing the mom was cold but showed some signs of it. Very weird.
Yes. This. She was trying not to laugh when she got interrupted. I've seen so many cases of single women protecting their pedo bf they don't care about their kids at all. Is not just loneliness they really really don't care like her face. Zero cares.
Agreed.
I was thinking this too. All this on this man’s phone, happening in HER HOUSE to HER DAUGHTER?? And she knew NOTHING. Ya flippin right. SO SAD
Thank you so much for covering this. She was found less than 5 miles from my house. I pray she gets full justice. ❤
The mom seems sooo sketchy too. Shows zero emotions in the interviews. Disgusting. So sad for that little girl
Exactly !
She knew what happened and she totally knew what he was doing with her daughter. She let them share a bed together.
This case is absolutely sick, mothers stop letting your BOYFRIEND around your children!!!
(Yes men AND women also do commit these horrible crimes, I’ve been noticing an uptick in these crimes specifically with mothers. Some of these men PREY on vulnerable mothers in order to get closer to their children. We all need to do our job and stay vigilant, and protect all children, from ANY and ALL abusers)
Amen
This is why I have been single for almost 8 years, my daughter will be 8 in June. I will always protect her until the day I pass away.
**PARENTS, protect your children.
@@Lady_shelbsofc!! I’ve specifically been seeing a lot of cases with women and their boyfriends, but yes absolutely protect all children and any man or woman should keep their boyfriends/girlfriends away from their children!!!!
@@Lady_shelbsIn fact kids who do not live with their real dads are statistically 40 TIMES more likely to suffer abuse or fall victim to homicide.This therefore clearly is a divorced/single mother problem, not a "parents" problem. It is also a no-fault divorce, mother-favoring family court issue, those need to be reformed.
my mom still isn’t dating (i’m 23 & my parents got divorced at 7) my dad got remarried within three years and my step mom was a nightmare, im so glad that my mom NEVER brought a man around me! i was always her number one priority and i am forever grateful for that!!!!
Your mom is one of the only women with common sense! Women need to stop bringing these random men around their kids. I'd never do this!
I’m doing the same with my child. I will remain single until he is out of the house ❤
My mom wasn't the greatest mom she made a lot of mistakes which we have talked about a lot in my adult years. The one thing I always will tell her she did right was never bringing a man into the house. I'm 35 and she still has never introuced a man into my life or her grandchildrens life. I appreciate that more than she will ever know.❤
This made me teary eyed! My mom also chose her bfs over me my whole life and as a mother to a 12 and 6 year old they are the exact reason I will not date til they are grown
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He didn't hide the photo evidence on his phone. He felt quite comfortable having a gallery full of these images. His level of comfort leads me to believe he didnt have to hide it from the mother. Then her demeanor and interviews... mom at the very least was aware, at worst was involved.
He put it back to factory settings,but nothing is irretrevable .The police found what he'd deleted.
@keepitreal665 I read this as meaning before she went missing. Like they were in there the whole time and only reset when they reported her missing. He was just living his daily l8fe with that disgusting, depraved, torturous abuse.
Absolute pig.
Accidentally factory reset is a term that doesn't exist. Have you ever reset your phone? It's incredibly hard to do! That's like accidentally solving a rubiks cube
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Ur not wrong
I had the same thought!
Did anyone else notice when the reporter asked the mother if there’s anything people need to know about Madeline, she never once said she loved her, I kept waiting for her to say it but she never did. Rest in peace Madeline I hope you get the justice you deserve xx
Same. Or beg for people to find her daughter and the qualities she loved… like none 🥺💔
The mom is the most unemotional mother of a missing child, most would be hysterical. I pray for justice for you sweet girl
I have noticed that two. And on top of it, her demeanour is so monotone. She is not crying, nothing. I really do feel that she knew more than what she showed/told.🤨and she is also moving a lot like shaking almost.
I noticed that too. I also noticed that she was a bit lost for words at first and said such mundane things. As a mother of two, if something like this happened and a reporter asked me the same question, I would be going off nonstop, tears rolling down my face. I don't even know if I'd be able to talk. I would be absolutely hysterical. This "mother" didn't shed a single damn tear! That interview really creeped me out!!
Right??!
I’m a Mama of 2. A girl and a boy. I can tell the moment they walk in the door from school how they are feeling…if they are tired, frustrated, bullied, happy, silly or down. IMO there’s no way the mom didn’t know of the long term sexual abuse happening. No fucking way.
I agree. There are some sick, predatory females/mothers in this world too. It’s not just men. They all 3 slept in the same room. There is absolutely no way, no way humanly possible that Mom wasnt complicit.
agreed!!!
You care about your children. Maybe this momma cares more about her man and what he feels and acts like. It’s a man’s world.
@Blakeeames, I am a mother of 5 adult children and I can still read each and every one of them! A good mother knows her children,Like mama bears we protect all our cubs differently A mama bear will release her cubs into the wild to fend for themselves.Human mothers will forever be motherly no matter how old our children become .I heard early on in this case that Maddie tried telling her mom and she didn't want to believe her? So if the authorities find any family members that Maddie tried to tell about that sicko disgusting excuse of a man and the nasty horrific things done to her need to also be investigated and brought to justice!? I.m.o. I think this is why we haven't heard any latest updates? L.E.'s need to dot their I's and cross their T's and have all their ducks in a roll!#Justice4Maddie🩷💜🩷💜Soar high Angel 😇 you did nothing wrong!!
I don’t have any kids but I talk to my mom on the phone every day. She can tell by how I say “Hello” what kind of day I had.
Some parents miss things. Some kids are good at hiding depression and other symptoms of mental health. But that? I don’t think so.
No tears and little smiles will always tell the tale.
I think it’s weird as hell that the mom didn’t go to her own daughter’s birthday party. Not sure why that sticks out for me but it’s strange. 13 is such a big milestone.
1000% the way she looked when he asked what did you last talk about it. She seemed so surprised and had to come up with something fast. She is guilty of something
I agree! As a Mother , if I had to work on my Daughters 13th Birthday , I'm calling in or I'm having at least a cake with my Daughter on Her Birthday and a Party for Her that weekend! Where is the actual video of that poor Child's Supposed Birthday Party?? It may have just been the Pedo and Madeline at that "party".......The Mother is going to be charged also!
Who were the family members that held the party for her?
I said the same thing on another chat!
Madeline turned 13 on February 22nd earlier in the week before the family birthday celebration on Sunday the 25th… her mother was with her on her actual birthday.
Having Sterns sitting in the back during this interview is very controlling and creepy.
Annie-Elise thank you for all you do, I truly appreciate all the hard work you put into each and every case you cover.
The way the mom smiled during her interview sickened me.
Missing her daughter’s 13th birthday is so sad.
What was the interruption sounds that she waited on and laughed?
@@PorchHonky1975 I thought it sounded like a little kid playing with someone.
I mean there is a lot to judge her for but missing the bday party due to work isn’t one of them.
Who hosted the party? Please don’t tell me he did.
@@PorchHonky1975I think it was an automatic pet feeder
I honestly feel like the mom knows wayyyyy more than she’s saying
I think she’s actively apart of everything that’s going on with her daughter
There is no way he had all that content on his phone and the mother did not know. If she checked her daughters phone she would have checked his UNLESS she knew it didn’t happen that way
Forreal I think she's just as bad she's just a woman so noone is going after her... Disgusting.
I disagree
Yea or she had suspicion or knew of him violating her he recorded it and took pics in the home
Yep , there’s no urgency to find her , a normal mother would flipping
Yo, the bf in frame during the mother’s news talk… lurking foreshadow. chills
Yes 💯 he was making sure she didn’t say anything to bad or out of the ordinary asking for help. He’s a sick human being
Rest in peace Madeline. You never deserved this type of abuse.
All the time we talk to our children about stranger danger but sadly people they know are the ones hurting them most. Sad and sick
In so many cases, that's exactly true. And it's heartbreaking 💔 😢 Any acts of violence, abuse, neglect, cruelty against a child makes me wish I could personally deliver the punishment to the guilty. 😢
Exactly we need to teach possible dangers at home or near not just stranger danger has that is more rare
The mom literally looks like every person who’s lying looks like. Deer in headlights look, shaking her leg, very calm. She is acting literally so guilty.
She knows
I agree
Yeah the mother is super sus. The way she tried to push the narrative to the media of "My daughter is so forgetful she has ADHD that's why she forgot her phone before we dropped her off" No... she didn't forget her phone because she never left for school and "we", which includes you, didn't drop her off. Wtf? What mother willingly chooses to deceive people who are actively trying to get her child back home. Her own mother let a demon in her home and protected him. If this woman doesn't get behind bars, there will be no justice for Maddie
@@_balafreoh stop. Though I agree the mom had to have known something mom saying that she forgot her phone at home before school and the fact that she is forgetful because she has ADHD does not make her suspicious! I'm sure she does have ADHD and it is not strange that she sometimes forgets her phone...none of that is suspicious 🙄
might as well be wtf tv
Growing up, my mother dated a series of abusers/predators. Please protect your children. Do not turn a blind eye or trust anyone blindly. My heart breaks for Madeline 🕊️
10000% true. I met my husband when my son was 1 and his daughter was 1 as well . He's always been an amazing father to my kids. At 6 I had a suspicion that my step daughter was BEING SA'd (coming to visits with yeast infections and bacterial infections at the time I was 24 and had NEVER had any of the issues she was having. Long story short I reported to dcyf, police, family court, Dr's EVERYONE I could think of that was a MANDATED REPORTER and NOTHING was done until she spoke up at 12 years old!!! Thebio mother had SA'd her and her baby sister (3 at the time) had been raped by the mom and her many bfs while bio mom held them down. Still one bf got 77 years in prison, mom got nothing in that state because she PROVED (IN TN court because her rapist bf was in the army) the videos and photos of her sa'ing her children were taken in another state (NH) and now NH HAS DONE NOTHING!!! OH SORRY SHE HAS TO REGISTER FOR SELLING RAPE VIDEOS OF HER KIDS!
Same here…it haunted me and weighed me down for many years, but becoming a mom gave me a purpose again - I stopped the cycle, never allowed anyone to be alone with him unless it was his dad or grandma. I’m so sorry you also had to feel this pain, but I hope you’re doing so amazing now ❤
People need to be more careful with their children. My daughter is 13 and I choose not to date but when I have I don’t let men come to my home because I feel it is not only my home but my daughter’s safe space. I’m not going to have men running through the place where we lay our heads at night. It is just too risky.
This is a hard pill to swallow but theres a lot of people who couldnt care less... We should accept this fact instead of the turmoil of fighting against that. You cant make a bad person good. It never happens.
So much respect for that female reporter shouting bold questions when he was taken in!!
That’s what she gets paid to do
Him looking feeble while she’s asking those important questions is so irritating 😠
Absolute yes! Bold questions that deserve answers.
I just find it annoying when reporters do this, they know they are not going to get an answer, let alone the correct one, just makes the reporters look stupid.
Shouting out rhetorical questions about if he’s a child “r-word” and “ped*phile” is to expose him and shame him seeing how he’s obviously guilty, it’s more than appropriate. That same short clip will be shown millions of times across all true crime shows that cover this atrocity. Being “woke” is what I would call the judge for not even naming his charges when he fully deserved being exposed and shamed right then and forever. And being “woke” is exactly what this platform is seeing how you can’t say anything about child hunters and that right there is very telling of the ones running the platform who are far-Left wokies who protect all these monsters as much as possible, they are one and the same. The Left are well known for their extreme desire to harm children and protect their islands from normies who might expose them at all costs. They are the ones who you don’t want to leave your kids with. Look up how in California, Governor Gaven Newsome (Democrat) legalized sex with children down to 14 years old. It’s the law now in that state. Soon they will be making laws that allow them to just go pick their child brides. The media is all in on protecting Democrats at all costs, constantly telling lies and half truths to push them. Like Republicans won’t approve the border bill but fail to mention that the bill has barely anything in it for defending our borders, 15% is all that is allocated for the border and the rest is fluff and money to launder through the Ukraine while they lie about everything surrounding that debacle too. It’s all fake news on the media now and most is all far Left, like 98% of the news if from the far-Left and it’s all narrative driven propaganda, all of it. I hope everyone gets it soon because we’re all in real trouble and we’re all in this together. It’s us vs the elites of this establishment they seized to enslave us, and yes they stole “it” too.
I wonder if Madeleine was pregnant or if he was drugging her to take advantage of her and then she accidentally OD.
The mom seems very detached. She couldn’t find a way to attend her daughter’s party? Reschedule it for a day when she’s off from work?
We truly never know what goes on in people’s home. It’s scary.
He said mom is on a lot of meds. Possibly he was dabbling in the medicine chest and miscalculated. I don't think it was planned.
I keep thinking of mom's first words "I feel like I can't breathe." I don't believe this was accidental. It will come out. This poor girl lived a nightmare. Poor Maddie.
Maybe she was intentionally absent. Some parents facilitate things for their S/O. The mom is sus as heck, she had to know what was going on at some level.
Seriously, I work alot too but I always planned my kids birthday parties on my day off, my one day off. And to let a boyfriend take my daughter to school? No way ..
Poor Maddie looked pregnant in the picture of her at the formal/dance.
How can a mother be so calm I would be hysterical.
same, I couldn't even talk neither would I - poor girl
She is not calm. She is traumatized .
@@josephk4310 do you have kids? doubt it!
@@jivalucia3916 I knew someone who lost her little girl to a cot death (SIDs). She went in to work and did her nightshift that evening. Nobody at work knew she lost her only child until over a week later when she asked for the day off for her funeral. She broke down in the middle of a shopping centre about 3 months later. That's when she accepted it was real and started to grieve. Because she appeared so unemotional girls at worked gossiped and said she must have killed her. It wasn't until the inquest months after that they accepted she didn't do it . We all react in different ways.
@@josephk4310that’s not trauma that’s dissociation because she knows she never had time for her child and now this happened! Yes, everyone reacts differently but this is straight dissociation because she’s feeling guilt!!!!
When he said she was asleep on the way to school…when she was seen in the car when she was dead. That sent chills down my spine :(
Boyfriend said ( before they found her body), ‘she WAS a sweet, kind girl’….. referring to her in past tense. Also, ‘please bring her home IF you FIND her’….. uh?? I find that verbiage very strange.
The dry tears from both the boyfriend and mother speaks volumes!!!
I also noticed that the boyfriend let it slip, when speaking of Madeleine in the past tense.
Mom is completely oblivious and in shock her daughters missing. I don't believe she's involved
@@DeezNuts-b4show?? She had that monster behind her even after she knew he had those things on his phone!! No excuses
@@DeezNuts-b4s why she lie so much?
Her mom also used was in several interviews. She has also lies several times and is now being investigated
My mom's friend lives in Orlando and her son goes to Madeline's school. They told us that the police went to the school to explain to the kids what happened once they found her body. Kids were yelling, crying and parents picked everyone earlier that day. Everyone in that school was heartbroken for her!
My heart goes out to those kids, when I was that age I had a close friend pass away after being in a bad car accident with a drunk driver, going through grief at that age changes you. I hope they all have good support systems and therapy available to them.
I honestly feel that the Mom knows more than she's saying. She never cried during either of her interviews. Her story to the detectives wasn't truthful, according to the reports from the detectives.
100%
I find her really odd…that stupid noise in the background of the interview …she smiled and rolled her eyes….id be a snotty snivelling mess if it was my daughter…she’s totally detached…either that or she doesn’t care.,.bloody strange woman
I agree too. There had to have been red flags. I refuse to believe Madeline didn’t even *hint* that something was wrong especially since it was happening in their home.
And yet, you don't shed a tear. I would be absolutely frantic! I'm pretty sure that the boyfriend was involved and so was mom. That poor child- being betrayed by the person she loved most. RIP Madeline Soto. The boy friend doesn't shed a tear either. Our daughter, yuk. Creep.
The second she said her 13 year old daughter probably didn't know their full address, I started wondering.
It's been a while since kindergarten, but I'm pretty sure they still use kids' names and addresses to help kids learn to read and write.
When he said she was asleep on the way there. That part sent chills down my spine
My heart breaks for this child. My step father was a monster too. Women, please protect your children. Don't trust these men around your kids.
Hi I’m sorry you had a bad experience as a child but can I ask why you never told your mom? I’m just wondering because I have an 8 year old and I always try to talk to her about these sort of things so as a mom I’d like to know why a child wouldn’t want to tell a parent.
@@haliear01multiple reasons they dont tell. Try watching a movie about it together. Talk along the way.
Watch very closely her entire life. Predators are everywhere.
@@susanrenee9494 I know they are everywhere….
All parents are supposed to put their parental duties ahead of all else. But when it comes to them being divorced, they tend to choose the opposite because of their desperation for a new relationship. This is why blended households need to be inspected (By CPS) because most kids often get abused or even killed all because of parental negligence by the biological parent.
I was abused as a kid and i was always running away, and the cops would just take me back home! Back to my abuser and i can totally understand this poor child wanting to get away from this monster! Just remember if a child would rather live on the street or in this case “in the woods” what the heck are they trying to get away from!?
That was biggest red flag
I feel so sad for Madeline, and all who have been subjected to abuse. Justice for Maddie.
💯💯💯
Exactly! I'm so sorry for what you were put through. I'm really glad that you are here with us today and are able to tell your story, I'm sure it helps many other victims. You are a very brave fighter, a courageous warrior and survivor. 💖 💐 💪
@@mjarboesdf thank you, your words are so touching, yes i made it, and im thankful for that, but every time i see a case like this it brings it all the back, the fear, helplessness and humiliation, it stays with you for life, but these poor babies taken by evil, who will never get to make peace with their past because their future was stolen its almost unbearable.
RIP Maddie
In that interview, Stephan lurking in the background, smoking his vape, trying to calm his nerves and making sure Jennifer sticks to the story he gave her.
She needs to go to jail
Nah I don't think he fed her a story. She repeats it far too well for someone who didn't have a hand in coming up with it themselves.
Because they both had something to do with this I believe
@@rebexyyright I agree!!
Yes! Made my blood boil!!
"I hope youre not hurt" then big sigh.... she KNOWS EVERYTHING
The description of what was found on the boyfriend’s phone made me physically sick. That poor little girl. I can’t even imagine. I have a 14 year old so it hit me hard. RIP baby girl. ❤
I felt sick also. My daughter is in middle school and I can't imagine the pain and horror that poor girl went thru. I don't understand the mother who was supposed to be protecting her! I'm sure the daughter was difficult to raise, what 12 year old isn't? As a mom (and someone who works in a school), I'm hyper aware of how people treat/act around kids, not just mine. She definitely saw/felt red flags and I guarantee that Madeline wasn't his first victim.
@@jenerin905 I agree with everything you said 👆
Mom looked more anxious than she did devastated. With the constant shaking/bouncing. Missing her 13th birthday party, lack of emotion,shows she had a total disconnect with her daughter.
Yes the birthday party thing was soooo strange! Who kisses their kids birthday party?
The boyfriend was in the back of the video. 😭
13 is a milestone birthday - it should be a special day for the child. Missing your daughter's 13th birthday party just shows the lack of care and love for the child!! Her 23th birthday should have been a big deal, not her date of death!!
I just have a hard time believing that at 13 years' old she did not know her address. Did they just move there? My daughter knew our address at 3. I can't stress enough how your children should know full names, addresses, and phone numbers.
Another lie, trying to give any excuse for their future lies.
I heard an interview with Maddie’s best friend. It sounded like Maddie was at her school one year, she didn’t see her another year and then they became friends in and since 4th grade. But most parents teach their children their home address by kindergarten or first grade.
I just went to her memorial site and said a prayer. That poor baby girl I can't even imagine!!!! I hope justice is FULLY served!
Was her mom there?
And everyone clapped...
@@beautifullife3490nope, nobody there.
Protocol at my school: if a kid is not present first period and their parents did not call therm in sick, we will call the parents, within the next hour, to inform them their kid is not in school. So when a kid is not accounted for, the parents know asap.
Yeah we have something like this at my kids high-school. They get attendance for each period.
She WAITED another 3 and a half hours after the school notified her. LE said she contacted them at 8pm.
If my gra kids school can't get intouch with my daughter and son in law. They ring me. Shocking all round. 😢
My old school middle school and high school waited till the end of the day to call the parent to let them know that the kid didn’t go to school.
The schools in my town don't call if they miss unless it's 3 days in a row. I took my oldest daughter out and put her in cyber school in 6th grade after she got diagnosed with type 1 diabetes
There’s ZERO chance of ACCIDENTALLY factory resetting your phone absolutely zero chance!
Yes and law enforcement is well aware of that too. These criminals who think they're so smart and have covered all their bases and their a$$, are completely clueless about the methods law enforcement uses to solve cases. And now in such a digital world, it's a lot of times much faster too.
Especially the same fucking day she went missing! How dumb can people be
You've got to go through at LEAST 2 prompts yo factory reset. I know my phone asks me if I want to reset, yes or no? Then they ask me if I'm sure so you have to click yes, twice.
When will violent crime slow down it gets worse every day and these monsters are getting caught left and right making all the same mistakes as the monsters the day before. Digital footprints, CCTV, NOTHING can be deleted from ANY of our devices, Hidden GPS tracking in our vehicles. EVERYONE will get caught!
There was a time when the only way to get away with murder is by having absolutely no connection to the person they killed but now that’s not saving them anymore with everything I just listed. But still these animals are simply not getting it yet 🤷🏼♂️
I actually did this to my sons phone, he was so annoyed
What makes this case even more horrifying is so many people I know knew this family. I’m local to the case and in the days immediately after her disappearance I watched on Facebook as people posted “help my friend find her daughter!” and it gave me flashbacks to the Parkland shooting where people on my page were asking to help find their family and friends. Absolutely chilling, I hope that man rots. There truly are no words
🤬🤬😤 that sicko bf lurking in the background of the moms interview infuriates ME to no end!!! Rest in Gods arms Maddie 🙏🏼🕊️
When asked “would she know how to find her way home?” She smiles in response with a “no I don’t think so”. SHE KNOWS MORE THAN SHE IS LETTING ON
Did your tiktok criminology degree teach you this?
Exactly. I mean what 13 year old doesn’t know their own address?
My daughter got lost for 10 minutes at a shopping centre when she was around 6. She knew my cell phone number and asked the lady working at target to call me, which she did. She also knew our home address. She’s neurotypical and now 25.
My son who has autism and adhd and is almost 9 knows my phone, dads phone and our home address. We taught him just in case he ever gets lost. Typed it up and stuck it on his playroom wall. Went over it with him a few times, then at random moments we would test him.
I don’t believe Maddi, at 13, didn’t know her own address, that’s BS!
She might know her address but she wouldn’t necessarily know how to get there from wherever she was supposed to have been. I’m 28 and if I go even 15 min from home I’m lost without my gps. I think that was the point. And we know she didn’t have her cell phone.
Home to school is a path kids take 5 days a week. They should know their address and how to get home as a preteen.
Live less than 5 minutes from this beautiful baby girl. Our community is devastated, thank you for using your voice for her.
We truly are! I’m from the St Cloud area and its just shocking when stuff like this happens so close to home! This is really heartbreaking 😢
I wonder if their house had immediate neighbours? Like security cctv cameras, or ring doorbells? Wonder if neighbours heard any arguments/fighting, raised voices and shouting etc?
Hope they find some footage a bit like the Chris Watts' neighbours.
Please know there are folks out here praying for y'all's healing.
Yes me too, born and raised 😔
@@Jonesatk same. A lot of people in our area are born and raised here. It's a great community. Hunter's Creek is the best. I'm sickened.
I think the fact that she first said that the last time she saw her daughter was the night before and then in a different interview switched it and said she saw her that morning getting dressed for school shows that the mother knows something.
When she started reading details, this sent chills down my body. Omg! This baby suffered and no one even noticed. She needs justice!!!!
They had to notice! Come on! She's a baby and she's going through hell. Yes, tweens are moody, but there's no way the mom didn't see the bf's creepy gaze or the child's discomfort.
It’s hard to look at her pictures and look at her eyes and her smile knowing she was hiding this horrible secret of the ab*se and she was secretly suffering
I know, it's just heartbreaking!!@saratullas5509
What is the point of not fully spelling out the word "abuse?" I'm genuinely curious.@@JoST41
I cried hearing the details. My oldest daughter just turned 13 & my youngest daughter turns 12 this month. I couldn't imagine what this child went through. May she rest in peace & this monster never sees the sun again.
I hope you see this Annie. I think you should give a disclaimer next time you speak to graphically about child pornography. It’s gross that you even went into that much detail at all but I know it’s your channel you can do what you want. But as a listener it made me sick to my stomach and you could have spared the details. Anyway, I think you should atleast tell your listeners beforehand.
@@JulieLloyd-if9rrmake sure your volume is on starting at 14:38
@xstrobelightx9 I guess I mis heard. I didn’t think she was talking about a child when she said that.
I still don’t think it needed to be said though. Way too graphic. People don’t need those images of what happened to this child in their mind.
@@JulieLloyd-if9rr she did give a warning…. In the beginning around 1:45
She annie did give ....a disclaimer....she always...does 😮
This case has so many holes in it, absolutely haunting. Thanks for covering it bestie.
Thanks for listening
I agree there’s so many holes in this story. If the school was next to the church how did she just disappear without a trace! Also I’m not sure how did the mom go to her school to pick her up. And the school was closed already? How the heck do you not know yours kids school hours
@@shaynavelazquez5351
From everything I have seen from the case, she went to pick her up, she wasn’t there and then the mum drove around to check. After returning to the school, the school was then shut.
This case happened in my town. We were all so heartbroken for this little girl. She deserved so much more.
You weren't lying Annie. Couple times my stomach flipped. When you read the affidavit I almost clicked off. Disgusting. And what's worse is these kinds of predators do not get the time/punishment they deserve. More often than not they are let back out into society 😭
The mom is way too calm for someone who doesn't know where her daughter is!! I truly think she knows more than she is letting on!
To be fair, the mother may be in shock. There is no correct way to act when something like this happens remember because everyone will be different
I agree
I see she’s constantly hiding her bottom lip. Says um alot. I would think she’s said the story so many times that by this interview it should just flow. IMO.
She kept saying “ we drove her to school “. Then he drove her to school. Who the heck drove her both of them or just him? Can anyone figure it out?
Agreed!!
I believe mom knew. Absolutely!!
The smile from the noise changed to sadness like a light switch in front of the camera.
I believe her mother knew
This poor little girl had been sexually abused for years and the “mom” had no idea? Ridiculous! She said the last time she saw her daughter was around 8am in her room before the school yet Police already pronounced that Madeline had to be murdered right after her birthday party 😢 the night before...
They are both psychopaths and predators! Torturing your own child for your sick boyfriend’s sexual gratification is mindblowing!
Mark my words people -the “mother” is just as guilty as this creep 🤮🤯
Did you notice the mother never said she loves Maddie during the interview she said she hope she comes home she’s hope she’s not hurt but she never said she loves her
Of course she doesn't love her daughter because her boyfriend is more attracted to her 13 year old daughter smh
She did say it in the first interview, if I'm not mistaken. But she did say it in one. She doesn't seem emotional at all tho, no tears from her either.
Right!??? I works b hysterical
That "mother" knows more
I truly believe in my heart the mother knows something, her body language says it all. Rip Maddie. 😢💔
Me too. Disgusting 😢
Thank you Annie! You are one amazing woman who knows how to explain things in a ways easy to understand 🙏❤️
Zero tears from either of them. She’s really only talking about what all they did like covering their tracks.. not much about missing her daughter.. I had more emotions when my cat disappeared for 2 days..
I realize “everyone grieves, or gets stressed in a different way“ but this lady is nuts. I would be absolutely crying until I puked if it was my kid.
Girl! My cat died suddenly right in front of my eyes and I screamed cried so bad my mom came from an hour away to come console me.
💔
The body language guys are gonna have a field day with these living interviews
Her leg shaking her squinting she's lying
BLA is mostly nonsense or too subjective to be of real use. The courts don't allow it into evidence. The police will occasionally use a BLA "expert" to consult, but police still turn to psychics occasionally. They may as well read entrails or sacrifice chickens.
I love how you point out in his interview he didn’t look at the camera and mixed his words. Mom did the exact same thing. None of them made a plea for her to come home. Both of them had head shakes (subconsciously) in all the wrong places. Mom knows more than she is letting on.
THIS!! Body language doesn’t lie!
Her ADHD is probably more like PTSD. This case is sick, sad, tragic, pathetic and hellish.
I am eight minutes in the first red flag was the mother started out saying “WE took her to school”. She kept referring to we. Then it turned to her boyfriend. Her BOYFRIEND. took Maddie to school
The mom immediately gave me Chris Watts vibes as well. She recounted the events like she was reading off a laundry list, rather than giving every detail so that someone might hear something that could actually help find her daughter.
She is confused and scared. Give her a break.
Unfortunately I got the same impression. Probably fearful of her partner the way CW was fearful of NK…
Me too! The way she smiled and giggled on video I could’ve died.
Yup and mouth open like whaaaaaaaa just bizarre
I was getting deja vu with this interview, especially when the cat feeder went off! It's strange how it can feel almost feel paranormal when something like that happens while uncovering a dark and twisted murder.
Hey Annie! Have you heard about Sebastian Rogers? He’s missing from Hendersonville TN. Been missing for almost two weeks now. I live near where he went missing from and things just aren’t adding up. Would love your take on it and any additional awareness for a 15 year old autistic boy currently missing.
Thank you for bringing attention to Sebastian!
I live in Nashville and have been following his story. What happened to you, Sebastian…💚🧩🐅
Not that I don't love everything you do, but I will have to bow out of this episode due to my own personal trauma. Please keep up the case coverage, this child deserved so much more. Love you girlie!
Peace be with you. 🖤🖤
Sorry that you endured such trauma. Sending you love 💜💜💜
I absolutely understand. Take care of you ❤
It was hard for me too, you’re not alone. Went through a similar situation as this poor girl with a foster father. I’m honestly surprised I wasn’t killed. My heart hurts for her so much.
It’s been highly triggering for me too. Bless you. Also a survivor. 😢
How is this mother so calm..... No tears.., no shaking. I know we all grieve differently but she is was to calm. Bad feeling.
What mother does not go to her own daughter’s birthday party when she lives with her? And how at 13 years old does she not know her address or how to get home? Sorry my son at 4 could tell you that! Mom and bf gave me Watts vibes from the beginning! Too many questions with no answers! Please keep us updated on this case! May sweet Madeline rest in peace!
I was thinking maybe it was a party her bio dad threw for her? I have no idea if he's in the picture or not, but parents with split custody do give kids parties that the other parent doesn't participate in because they aren't amicable.
And I think Mom does have some kind of intellectual disability and isn't the most saftey-minded, and/or Madeleine is also possibly not able to easily retain that type of information and understand why it's important. Just my speculation.
I just wrote a comment on kids knowing their address, how to get home etc. I totally agree with you.
You said exactly what I did! My daughter's knows our address by heart since she was 7! I'd have her recite it to me, and we'd make a song out of it. I feel sketchy vibes from both of the adults, tbh
I’m a single mom and you normally have the party on your day off! She knows exactly what happened!
Mom had to work. The Birthday was Thursday. The party was Sunday.
Even in the absence of any shenanigans or crime, if someone told me they “accidentally factory reset” their phone, I’d immediately call BS because there’s no “accidentally” resetting a device nowadays. There are multiple “are you really sure you want to do this?” prompts someone has to clear before a reset is performed. Even the most tech-illiterate people know better than that…
I wouldn't know how to do it on purpose.
My exact thought, its hard to do ON PURPOSE, you couldn't "accidentally" do it
First you have to specifically go looking for the reset so people don’t do accidentally, and even if you click by mistake pop ups came asking you really sure? Unless he is illiterate, don’t know any English or for some reason never got that red buttons mean danger is total bs.
Yeah it's nearly impossible to accidently factory reset your phone.
If there was no audio, you would think she was talking about a power outage.
She never once initiated a conversation directed to Maddie. Or any potential abductors.
She knew the child was dead.
Another ARREST is coming.
IMO.
And stop diagnosing kids and teems as ADHD.
All kids are forgetful, easily distracted, scatter- brained.
Stop allowing yourself to be convinced that there is some mental illness, just because they are behaving age appropriate.
I really love this comment. It describes this video perfectly. No emotion anywhere. No support from family. Just odd
very grateful that the podcasts are on youtube as well
This guy is sick! To go on TV knowing the sick things he did to this beautiful young lady is just sickening I hope he rots in prison!
We all know what happens to pedophiles in jail.
@@spencerjane732 that is what I’m hoping for.
I absolutely HATE Child molesters. My stepfather abused and molested me from 12 years old until 2 months before my 15th birthday, the day I was taken from my mother's custody because my stepfather attempted to rape me.
I absolutely despise this monster. He is not sad whatsoever. He wants everyone to think he is upset and is very capable of making people believe this BUT underneath it all, he is joyful because he got what he wanted.
Jennifer is equally to blame. Just like my mother, she is going to lie for her man. She showed absolutely no emotion when speaking about Madeline.
I am sad that Madeline had to experience the abuse. She deserved to be loved and protected. RIP Madeline. 😢
I understand you completely... My mother kept the guy and sent me to a girls home... Saved me maybe....its long ago but to this day it pops up sometimes in my heart..
@tigerlily102511 my stepfather also molested me as a child and when I told my pathetic mother she said it was not her that did it so why am I angry with her. She continued to live with him because he denied it until he passed away 20 years later. She is a demon her and her pathetic husband.
emotional bec he got caught....
I'm so sorry this happened to you.
I'm truly sorry, you didn't deserve that 💔
These stories just solidify my thought that if something happens to my husband, I will absolutely not date anyone until they are adults 😢
Right there with you... As a survivor, I don't know if I could ever forgive myself if they were hurt by someone I brought into our home.
@jinaolen786 I was assaulted by a boyfriend of my mothers as well :( it happens way too often
100% kids dont ask to be here. A moms # 1 job is to protect their child. A stray dog has more instincts than some motherz
I really appreciate how much you genuinely care about your subscribers. Warnings and disclaimers tend to lead to less views, and you do it anyway. That speaks volumes. You are a staple here, and I couldn't picture youtube without you on it. Thank you for what you do. I'm sure ur job of making these videos is harder than they are to watch, which is why I watch you religiously. You give a voice to the voiceless, and it deserves to be seen.
I love those hard hitting reporters that just straight up yell at the criminals during their perp walk bombarding them with questions. I’ve seen videos from the 1970s of reporters who did really deep diggin on these criminals, they made a big difference inpublic opinion. The hard hitting reporting & thorough reporting like yours makes society hold others to a higher standard.
This!!!!
I have a daughter with 4 children, after her divorce, she never dated again. I’m proud of her, for putting the children first. This is exactly why children come first!!!!
I agree with you. When my girls' dad and I split up (he was very abusive, physically and verbally to me) I only dated one guy, very briefly after being single for about 2 years and NEVER even thought of letting him around my kids. After it didn't work out with him, I haven't considered even trying to date. I've been single for almost 6 years, no flings or anything, just my girls and I because I'm honestly terrified of something happening to them!
You do realise there are loads of bio parents that assault their children too. And they’re are plenty of other problems that come from single parents too
@@danicap9565 ever heard of the Cinderella Effect?
Literally everyone of every title has abused children, but some are simply more likely to do so than others
Agree 👍
Unless the ex did something to the children idu why someone wouldn't want to move on? It gives the children a male role model that they need. Children cannot be your whole life, yes I said it! Do a background check if you have to.
The way she keeps saying she’s very forgetful and accidentally left her phone so she can’t be tracked. It’s like she’s really trying to point out that the poor girl left the phone at home accidentally to take suspension off her and that POS man
Right. They tried to make her add sound like a huge disability also, it's not at all
She's really reinforcing this story. It makes me believe she knows fine well what happened.
She definitely knows what happened to her daughter. So often these women are so obsessed with these men that they are willing to do whatever it takes to keep the man.
I think it’s denial- like she doesn’t want to believe she intentionally left it to run away.
I can usually tune into people and despite the optics- I don’t think mom knew. I think she’s saying things without thinking which later made her look like she’s lying. I just don’t get accomplice. She’s shaking so is obviously disturbed but I get a sense of denial here like she actually thought she would be found or come home and it was an angsty teen thing.
@@SematerySyren I don't think she was an accomplice. I think she was an accessory after the fact at most. Or most likely just witnessed the crime. At the very least didn't know any of these things she is saying and was asleep when it happened. Never saw her at all that morning. So lying.
If she was up at the same time and saw what she was wearing as she claims in her earlier police statement then she was there when she was killed. Because Madeline was killed before she was placed in the car.
43:40 a 13 year old not knowing her own address is extremely concerning
I thought the same thing. My mom made me learn mine at age 4
Agreed.
i agreee completely ...
@@tatesmom5831b
my thoughts too, kids far younger know their address and how to get home.. you could tell she took a moment to think about that answer 😡
The fact that the mother was complacent throughout this entire situation is even worse.
My thoughts i personally wouldn’t even be able to even talk in an interview
I honestly think this monster Stephan wrote that text on Maddie's phone about her wanting to live "in the woods when she turns 13 years old."
Maddie was possibly pregnant by him and he was planning on getting rid of her after her birthday.
My woman's intuition is telling me the mother was 100% involved also!
I agree w u on all but mom being involved 👉some women really are just ignorant or on the A. Spectrum!
Who did she send that text to? I know in my teen years I would tell a friend I want to run away if I got in trouble. It was just drama from me because I was in trouble for something. I had great parents. Sometimes I would even tell them I’m going to run away. Of course they knew I was just being dramatic. Obviously, in hindsight the woods comment looks very sad, but if you didn’t know what was happening wouldn’t you just think your child is being silly? I have no idea who she sent that text to.
@@kimlarsoshe’s not on the spectrum, enough with this comment
@@kaykay1551 I’m my own Boss, Lady👉go boss someone else!
@@kimlarso I read somewhere that she has ADHD
How is this mother not upset or shedding a single tear for her daughter ?
Because she’s clearly involved
In this interview (before they found the body) mom is talking to the press, but looking up towards the ceiling, not making eye contact with anyone. To me, this is a tell. If she was truly upset about her "missing" daughter, she should be crying, sad, upset, scared, etc. She looks almost like she's talking about the weather, not her missing child! When you can't look people in the eye, it usually means that you're telling lies!! Her story just isn't gelling!
@@moapettersson3630 None of us know the situation enough to judge her. She looks completely brain washed to me, possibly drugged. A lot of these cases aren't what they seem.
@@duchessofhazjack4878there's one clear victim in this case... And it's not the mom.
FNALLY!!! I have no clue what happened to her, I just started following the case, thank God for you!!
This breaks my heart. What makes me even more concerned is that just by looking at her pictures I can tell something was wrong , she has severe dark circles under her eyes and a sadness that’s deep rooted that she tried hiding behind her smile. How did mom not see this but I … a stranger spotted it right away. Poor baby 😔 this is how her nightmare ended and I’m sure she’s been going through this majority of the time that man was in her life. Devastatingly enough that day she probably said she was going to tell on him to end this brutality on her. RIP Angel baby 😔🤍💔 🕊
I noticed the dark circles too and thought how strange for such a young age
Her face was etched with sadness and pain, even behind her pretty smile. Poor little girl. It hurts my heart so much to know what she had been going through. She is safe now, thankfully. May her murderers (stepofile and mother because how could she not know what was going on) pay for what they did to her. 🥺
In the tv interview the mother said the last time she saw Madeleine was the night before she disappeared, but in the police interview she said she saw her getting ready in the morning of the disappearance
Just like she uses ‘we’👉I think she’s addressing the interviewer w WE as in its a family affair 👉it’s easier than confusing people w he, she, I, me, they👉I think she’s on the A spectrum?!
@@kimlarso I think so too
And what about the church cameras seeing her???
I don’t care how scared somebody is! 😡 you take care of your child, that’s what love is. Anything else is empty words.
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Thank you for your compassionate coverage of this disturbing, tragic case. I recommend your podcasts and UA-cam channel to all of my friends who follow true crime. You now have a gang of nurses watching and listening…😊
Did everyone notice when he slipped and said "she WAS such a good kid"?
Yeah, because he knows that she's already dead - he killed her, so he has to think harder to make up the story! As Judge Judy says "If you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory!!!"
Yup, I caught that too..
I was going to post this! I noticed it instantly! What a horrible human being!
Its really hard not to be pissed of at the mother right now
This poor baby😢 What a horrific situation she lived in. It’s heartbreaking to know that there are so many kids living a similar nightmare. 💔
Thank you. As uncomfortable as this was we as a society need to be outraged! As this is happening all the time and enough is enough.
She talked to her friends about the woods when they were talking about a nuclear bomb hitting. The friends said they’d go together and live in the
woods.. thanks for doing such a great job. I’m sick of podcasters letting their followers call in and say absurd sickening things.❤
So happy that i am not the only one obsessed with accusing the Mom at this stage of investigation.
You are definitely not the only one. I’m positive she’s guilty.
It's so obvious almost immediately
I think the mother killed her.
Unfortunately this is probably true. Probably caught him in the act and freaked out on the daughter. This is such a sad case!
Everyone is a suspect around her the mom bf
Yes Annieeeeeeeee. Thank you for covering this and advocating for victims
We live in Saint Cloud off of Hickory Tree and Nolte. This has shocked our community. I thought things like this didn’t happen here in our little town. It’s disgusting how her mother acted during the interview. As a mother myself I would be devastated! Her memorial is down the street and we visit it often as a family. I have taken this opportunity to remind my children NOBODY should touch you and they should tell me or someone at school if someone is inappropriate. I pray for Maddies soul. She deserves better!! Shame on the adults in her life for not paying more attention to her!!
She seems too coherent and normal in the interview. My daughter once went missing for 2 hours and i was a mess,, could barely string a sentence together and crying feeling like i couldn't breathe. It just seems strange to me
Agreed! Mine went missing for about 15 minutes once and I swear my soul left my body. We had to have a talk about everyone knowing that we're playing hide and seek and to come out when mommy or daddy say to. But in that mom's situation, I'd be an absolute mess!!!
Mine went missing for 20 minutes and I LOST MY SHIT. I went nuts I ran up and down blocks screaming. I went to her friends in the park, I was crying and panicking. She just walked a friend home...
The abuses happen even back in 2022, the guy been dating the mother date back in 2018, sadly in this case i think the mother play a role here.
Exactly! If my CAT got out I would be more hysterical than this mother.
Totally agree. My youngest went missing in our house when he was a toddler. I went from calm to nutjob to 1000% freaking out in seconds. I was running around the neighborhood full throttle.
(My husband found him. He was playing hide & seek but didn’t tell us. Found him in the basement giggling. We didn’t know he could climb down the staircase) I didn’t let him out of my sight for days after that.
I knew a “Mom” who’s daughter told her that moms bf made her uncomfortable, all us adults spoke up about the way he looked at her and she acted JUST like this. That’s the face of someone who KNOWS what her bf is capable of but Mom doesn’t want people to know she chose her BF over her daughter and be seen as neglectful for it. And his “emotions” seem fake and forced af. Won’t make eye contact and seems to be hiding a smug smile behind those fake tears. Makes me sick
I knew a girl who's mom called her a slut for trying to steal her man. The girl was telling her mom he had been sexualy abusing her. The mom took the boyfriends side and called her crazy.
My heart is breaking for this little girl, I remember getting the amber alert for her too, I live 22 minutes from where the found her. All I know is that the mother was involved, she changed her story several times even suggested that her daughter wanted to “walk” the rest of the way after stating that they dropped her off, now it’s just him that did it, cool as a cucumber not a damn tear, and was already speaking about her in the past tense before they found her. I’m praying that she gets arrested and that Maddie gets full justice.
Thank you for posting thorough analysis!!