@@gridreaper6735 Probably not. While Leo did make some good arguments about why Raph isn't ready to work alone ( i.e. he's too impatient and ill tempered), I wouldn't say he's innocent. For one thing, he antagonized who he thought was a random vigilante and mocked him throughout the fight which proved Raph's point that he's kind of smug. And when Leo was listening off the reasons above, he ended it off with "I'm better than you". He's right of course, but not only was that the wrong thing to say, it came off as demeaning.
@gridreaper6735 The great thing about the conflict in the movie is there isn't really a wrong side. The main thing about Raphael and Leonardo's relationship in this and a lot of adaptations is that while they love each other, they don't really understand each other. Leo, being the stalwart and responsible leader, doesn't understand Raph's rebellious nature and unwillingness to just follow orders. Raph, meanwhile, doesn't understand why Leo gets to be leader or the responsibility and pressure that places on Leo's shoulders. It didn't help that Raph isn't great at processing and expressing his emotions; for all his anger, dude really just missed his big brother. They both had good points. It's just neither one wanted to listen.
@@gridreaper6735 Not at all. I've been a Leo fan since the late 80s lol. This fight is completely accurate. Once Raph broke the swords, it was up for Leo. Raph is the superior fighter, but Leo is a better leader. Splinter didnt just give his boys those weapons just because.
@@fgc_teavirus9438 Leo Definitely underestimated his Brother during the second fight, I think he didn’t even knew Raph’s weapons would snap his swords apart also Leo was being a bit cocky during their first fist fight
Leo wasn’t fw with the Nightwatcher being a vigilante basically ever since he came back from training in South America. He didn’t realize it was Raph till he uppercutted his helmet off.
This was definitely one of the best animated TMNT movie I’ve ever seen, very underrated, and this was a deep Fight for a Kids movie this fight was Peak for 2007, them animators was cooking for this fight
Leo held back at the end and let Raph win the fight, he was actively trying to teach Raph a lesson. One that Raph didn't pick up on until he almost killed his brother at the end of the fight. Look at Raphael's face when he realizes how close his sai came to stabbing right through Leo's face. He's horrified at what he almost did. That's the moment he realizes how badly his rage issues have led him astray. That's why he immediately runs away; he's deeply ashamed of himself. Leonardo wasn't trying to hurt his brother. That's why so many of his sword strikes were such near misses; he's demonstrating that he wasn't lying about being better. He also looked down at the blade lock that Raph had his swords in, and instead of breaking away from it or shoving Raph back, he let Raph snap both his swords. Leo was playing mind games, and Raph was just fighting because he was too angry to see anything but violence as a solution.
The thing about the Ralph verse Leo fight is that even though Leo was a better fighter he had the weapons disadvantage since Raphael's sai's are made to counter swords
I mean it basically *was* a familial dispute, but Raph wanted blood 2:29 Cause New Yorker's don't care unless it directly involves them. They could've been fighting in the middle of the street and no one would've cared
Raph got off easy because Leo wasn’t trying to beat the brakes off him. That was the thing: Raph was going all in from jump and Leo was tryna to get him to stop with logic. I prefer Raph overall, and Leo was being pompous. But, at least in this movie, Leo was the leader for a reason
you must be blind because leo was literally piecing him up the whole fight til Raph got the upper hand last second on some "last laugh" nonsense lmao. Fellas coping
@@lilkimbu2817 thank you lol. I felt bad for Raph for most the fight because, in most Turtles media, I didn’t know there was that big of a gap between them. But man, he made Raph look foolish. Raph is usually considered the toughest, but I think that gets confused with the best
@@lilkimbu2817Yea but you're leaving out a important factor before the helmet revealed it was Raph that was the night watcher.....Leo was dominating him, but after he seen it was Raph he lowered his guard more & was feeling too sympathetic during the fight, because leo never wanted to fight raph in the first place....but Raph Always felt like he had to prove he was better than leo. It comes down to mentality Raph won the fight because his heart was in winning the fight vs Leo who was feeling sympathetic while fighting Raph & even then showed raph he could've cut his head off if he was serious with a warning by putting his knife to his throat.
So, reason these two fought is Leo left for South America to train, but stayed over a year longer than he should've. Raph, not one to sit on his hands waiting for the fearless leader to return, gets the armor and goes vigilante. Leo returns and completely dismisses the fact Raph might not simply fall back in line, especially when Leo has a problem with Nightwatcher doing what they used to do. Leo goes out of his way to fight Nightwatcher to basically tell him to piss off, completely unaware it's Raph, with Raph finally cracking into his problem. "You are so smug, you know that? Think the world can't POSSIBLY run without you, don't you. Well I got news, we got along JUST FINE WITHOUT YOU." And Leo again disregards Raph, putting him down trying to force Raph to fall in line. Well, this is Raph...that won't happen.
All the craziness is based off of NYC because living in NYC is is like a cartoon frf. People getting their ass whipped in the middle of Times Square at like 3pm, tourist and passerby’s laughing and recording them 😂
I saw a headcannon somewhere that master Splinter intentionally taught each of the boys a weapon that directly contrasts their personalities. Ralph got the defense oriented sais that differ from his aggressive attitude, while the cool and peaceful Leo got the much deadlier swords. Mikey is goofy and clumsy but he gets numchucks, a very hard weapon to master. Lastly, Donny the tech-head has a primitive wooden staff.
These turtles got to scrappin fr I always been team Leo but when I saw this fight I knew it was one of the most legendary cartoon moments of all time But we all know they were fighting over who gets April I mean this show had the baddest one fr 😂
We are never a fade like this ever again and if we do it can never be as cold as this Leo being a Hypocrite and Raph Rage meter being just like Asura from Asura Wrath in Burst Mode,still love it when Raph manage to snap Leo Katanas Proving that Raph had a weapon to counter Leo also not gonna lie How Did Raph Lose as Night watcher when he wasn't nearly as pissed at Leo until his identity was revealed 💯💯💯💯💯
Literally Raph is my favorite turtle but my brothers has been Leo and we’ve argued who’s better but we watched it and I was like damn Leo could’ve ended bro fr fr
I think leo after seeing it was Ralph he was try to go easy on him which is crazy cause bro had armor but I think he was more on defense by the start when he found out it was Ralph but before all that he was going blow for blow with a fully armored Ralph
Man when I was a kid me and my lil bro where on that DBZ timing I remember us running each other down in the hallway and I side step lil bro, knee check him the the sternum and double axe handle his ass between the shoulder blades. Full on knocked the rings out this boy, had him sprawled out in the linoleum floor like a star fish. It was exquisite.
Please do a video on Yoda being a giant ass fraud. Pulled up on Sidious only to get hit by one blast force lightning and go into hiding for the next 19 years. Meanwhile Obi-Wan was completely locked in against the Chosen One on Mustafar.
They scrapping cause Leo's ego is so massive he can't handle there being another vigilante in new york meanwhile raph's sick of Leo's " im better than everyone" attitude, which is why he cooks his shit after leo goes " Im better than you" like nah you got a better reach on your weapons homie and that's it and he still snapped that shit like a twig. TLDR Raph tired of leo acting like He owns the turtles when their brothers.
On that New York Topic. Gotham was obviously based on New York.... Let that sink in a bit. New your and Florida also has the most Jamaican Immigrants.... also let that sink in.
Hahahahahahaha ending vid commentary. Otherworld channel 6 news of Blacula TV black children have been finding all over the world and it might be nice to one UA-cam channel. Lol. Just kiddin God. Love the commentary.
I am sure my family isn't the only one to be like this but. (Kind of the, "well back in my day.." sort of thing.......lol.. lame 😑) man as a kid that's all my family did, well mainly my uncles and older or same age cousins and brother. We would just randomly start going straight hands and grapple techniques (since we are kind of a wrestling family, older cousins, my uncle and myself all went to state in highschool so it was scrapin' like crazy. Freakin weight disadvantage though, was only 125lbs cutting to 119lbs, 5'7" by my senior year, but I was dumb strong (235 (or 250 can't remember exactly now) bench, and 225 clean and 550 squat, 3 foot vertical, with a stupid amount of stamina, fastest Cross Country race (which I only did a year of that crap to shut my friend up and and win a bet that id smoke his ass. Did it after 2 races, dude was doing Cross Country for years lawl.) got 18:26 in 3.1 miles, also ran 12 miles in 2 hours for a charity event once. So I could go almost 10 toes with them, (except my big ass uncles, crap was unfair asf sometimes.) Hell id play quarters and bloody knuckles all the time even with my teachers (I have boney asf hands so I know that crap hurt.) It was all in good fun, just something we did since I was like 8 years old (freakin 28 years ago fml) + firework fights, those were fun lol ( Seriously though, don't do it though, its dangerous and stupid. We kind of found out the hard way lol. Love your videos, always camping youtube for your videos lol. Keep up the good work!
This was what I associated with teenage mutant ninja turtles, I was kind of disappointed with all the other stuff in the franchise. I mean, it wasn’t terrible but come on.
What scares me is that Leo was that close to skewering Raph’s head, you could even see the shock in his eyes saying “Is my bro trying to KILL ME?!”
Nah fr if that helmet was still on or if Leo was sure he was an enemy to kill. That sword was PIERCING though Raph (Or sliding his neck/shoulder)
@@sharifrowe7812 And you could almost tell that Raph didn't dodge that, from Leo it was a WARNING.
This fight was pretty much the highlight of the whole movie it had everyone arguing.
I agree with that, plus my favourite turtle is Raphael, is it bad I was rooting for Raph to win?
@@gridreaper6735 Probably not.
While Leo did make some good arguments about why Raph isn't ready to work alone ( i.e. he's too impatient and ill tempered), I wouldn't say he's innocent.
For one thing, he antagonized who he thought was a random vigilante and mocked him throughout the fight which proved Raph's point that he's kind of smug. And when Leo was listening off the reasons above, he ended it off with "I'm better than you".
He's right of course, but not only was that the wrong thing to say, it came off as demeaning.
@gridreaper6735 The great thing about the conflict in the movie is there isn't really a wrong side. The main thing about Raphael and Leonardo's relationship in this and a lot of adaptations is that while they love each other, they don't really understand each other. Leo, being the stalwart and responsible leader, doesn't understand Raph's rebellious nature and unwillingness to just follow orders. Raph, meanwhile, doesn't understand why Leo gets to be leader or the responsibility and pressure that places on Leo's shoulders. It didn't help that Raph isn't great at processing and expressing his emotions; for all his anger, dude really just missed his big brother. They both had good points. It's just neither one wanted to listen.
@@gridreaper6735 Not at all. I've been a Leo fan since the late 80s lol. This fight is completely accurate. Once Raph broke the swords, it was up for Leo. Raph is the superior fighter, but Leo is a better leader. Splinter didnt just give his boys those weapons just because.
@@fgc_teavirus9438 Leo Definitely underestimated his Brother during the second fight, I think he didn’t even knew Raph’s weapons would snap his swords apart also Leo was being a bit cocky during their first fist fight
Cooluno was fighting demons trying not to say "Mika Mika Mika all over the rooftop" 🤣🤣
i was surprised he didnt
This movie should have had a sequel
It almost did
It was supposed to but Astro Boy did so poorly the studio shut down😭
Supposedly they had ideas for a 2nd & 3rd
With the second film focusing on Mikey and the third focusing on Donatello
Leo wasn’t fw with the Nightwatcher being a vigilante basically ever since he came back from training in South America. He didn’t realize it was Raph till he uppercutted his helmet off.
Which seems mad hypocritical to me since all the Turtles are vigilantes, and are buddies with Casey Jones, who is also a vigilante
Literally non of his business, heroes don't own the city
@@Radikai968absolutely
This was definitely one of the best animated TMNT movie I’ve ever seen, very underrated, and this was a deep Fight for a Kids movie
this fight was Peak for 2007, them animators was cooking for this fight
Movie name?
@@Pool_Pi53r take a wild guess
TNMT 2007
Leo was a crip and Raph was a blood, they were destined to fight
So what does that make Donnie and Mikey?
@@heinrichze-france4089idk what mikey is but Donnie is a Balla from san andreas
@@aYtto Mikey would be vagos
@@heinrichze-france4089 Donnie is a whole damn Grape
@@heinrichze-france4089 Mikey def would’ve been a Vice Lord.
Leo held back at the end and let Raph win the fight, he was actively trying to teach Raph a lesson. One that Raph didn't pick up on until he almost killed his brother at the end of the fight.
Look at Raphael's face when he realizes how close his sai came to stabbing right through Leo's face. He's horrified at what he almost did. That's the moment he realizes how badly his rage issues have led him astray. That's why he immediately runs away; he's deeply ashamed of himself.
Leonardo wasn't trying to hurt his brother. That's why so many of his sword strikes were such near misses; he's demonstrating that he wasn't lying about being better. He also looked down at the blade lock that Raph had his swords in, and instead of breaking away from it or shoving Raph back, he let Raph snap both his swords. Leo was playing mind games, and Raph was just fighting because he was too angry to see anything but violence as a solution.
The thing about the Ralph verse Leo fight is that even though Leo was a better fighter he had the weapons disadvantage since Raphael's sai's are made to counter swords
I mean it basically *was* a familial dispute, but Raph wanted blood
2:29 Cause New Yorker's don't care unless it directly involves them. They could've been fighting in the middle of the street and no one would've cared
New York is a cesspit and has nothing of value.
1:36 The edit sfx was just perfect
That Caleb city edit had me rolling. Shit was funny 😭😭😭
4:09 Bruh 😂
Seeing Ralph and Leo run one’s satisfied my soul. Especially because I feel Ralph is the better overall fighter.
Raph got off easy because Leo wasn’t trying to beat the brakes off him. That was the thing: Raph was going all in from jump and Leo was tryna to get him to stop with logic. I prefer Raph overall, and Leo was being pompous. But, at least in this movie, Leo was the leader for a reason
you must be blind because leo was literally piecing him up the whole fight til Raph got the upper hand last second on some "last laugh" nonsense lmao. Fellas coping
@@lilkimbu2817 thank you lol. I felt bad for Raph for most the fight because, in most Turtles media, I didn’t know there was that big of a gap between them. But man, he made Raph look foolish. Raph is usually considered the toughest, but I think that gets confused with the best
@@lilkimbu2817Yea but you're leaving out a important factor before the helmet revealed it was Raph that was the night watcher.....Leo was dominating him, but after he seen it was Raph he lowered his guard more & was feeling too sympathetic during the fight, because leo never wanted to fight raph in the first place....but Raph Always felt like he had to prove he was better than leo. It comes down to mentality Raph won the fight because his heart was in winning the fight vs Leo who was feeling sympathetic while fighting Raph & even then showed raph he could've cut his head off if he was serious with a warning by putting his knife to his throat.
Agreed
The ps2 game for this movie was badass
Their very few fight in the rain that live rent free in my mind vergil vs dante dcm3 , batman vs red hood and Ralph vs leo
"As these bois start having a block off try to knock each other's blocks off" peak comedy right there.
How did Leo not notice the man had 3 fingers like him he didn’t put 2 and 2 together 😂😂😂😂
This movie went hard
So, reason these two fought is Leo left for South America to train, but stayed over a year longer than he should've.
Raph, not one to sit on his hands waiting for the fearless leader to return, gets the armor and goes vigilante.
Leo returns and completely dismisses the fact Raph might not simply fall back in line, especially when Leo has a problem with Nightwatcher doing what they used to do.
Leo goes out of his way to fight Nightwatcher to basically tell him to piss off, completely unaware it's Raph, with Raph finally cracking into his problem.
"You are so smug, you know that? Think the world can't POSSIBLY run without you, don't you. Well I got news, we got along JUST FINE WITHOUT YOU."
And Leo again disregards Raph, putting him down trying to force Raph to fall in line. Well, this is Raph...that won't happen.
Raph got that DAWG in him! Pure beast mentality!😃✊🏽💯🔥🥷❤️🐢
All the craziness is based off of NYC because living in NYC is is like a cartoon frf. People getting their ass whipped in the middle of Times Square at like 3pm, tourist and passerby’s laughing and recording them 😂
4:37 for those who don't know Raphael's sais are designed to counter Leo's katanas
Yea. The sais are mainly defense weapons
That's true. My bro told me that is a advantage of shorter weapons
I saw a headcannon somewhere that master Splinter intentionally taught each of the boys a weapon that directly contrasts their personalities. Ralph got the defense oriented sais that differ from his aggressive attitude, while the cool and peaceful Leo got the much deadlier swords. Mikey is goofy and clumsy but he gets numchucks, a very hard weapon to master. Lastly, Donny the tech-head has a primitive wooden staff.
@@justanunluckyirishmaninabl5178 we have all seen it atleast once and when you think about it its such a cool concept
@@justanunluckyirishmaninabl5178it’s not a head canon that’s exactly what splinter did for them.
These turtles got to scrappin fr
I always been team Leo but when I saw this fight I knew it was one of the most legendary cartoon moments of all time
But we all know they were fighting over who gets April I mean this show had the baddest one fr 😂
5:14 It worked for Lin and Suyin.
This movie was my first exposure to TMNT, tryna find a sequel for like 5 years until they drop the live action,
Raph and Leo is pretty much when the lil brother tries to check the big brother, but you gotta remind em why you are him.
This TMNT movie has such beautiful animation it makes me want a triology of this. Instead of the live action version (No hate to it movies are fun!)
"Drake just just moved here a few days ago.... YUCk"💀💀
The best moment of the whole movie!
I got this on dvd I gotta watch it again bro
Raph gotta be on the crashout list
Man watching this movie when it premiered in 2007 then on cartoon Network was a masterpiece then playing the ps2 game my nigga 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Who else grew up on this peek
Me
They was going crazy
That suit was still fire. So I don’t know what you’re talking about😂
Leo must of thought splinter bought his katanas of temo with the way they snapped like toothpicks
I remember this movie!
Rosting his his fit is crazyyyy like bro to me that was too clean
We saw the Kenny omega reference and we receive it with love this man has good taste
Ralph was mad goofy with the fit
Bro uploaded a video before I slept,what an absolute legend
This was basically my childhood
We are never a fade like this ever again and if we do it can never be as cold as this Leo being a Hypocrite and Raph Rage meter being just like Asura from Asura Wrath in Burst Mode,still love it when Raph manage to snap Leo Katanas Proving that Raph had a weapon to counter Leo also not gonna lie How Did Raph Lose as Night watcher when he wasn't nearly as pissed at Leo until his identity was revealed 💯💯💯💯💯
We see it from Raph's POV during the fight. He can't see SHIT in that helmet
@@ultimamage3 Bro thought so much on aura and drip, he forgot the *functionality!* 🤣
Rafael and leonardo been at each other for years, they needed that one V one
Fun Fact: In The Game Version When You Play as The Night watcher,He Doesn't Have The Ball n Chain
Literally Raph is my favorite turtle but my brothers has been Leo and we’ve argued who’s better but we watched it and I was like damn Leo could’ve ended bro fr fr
I think leo after seeing it was Ralph he was try to go easy on him which is crazy cause bro had armor but I think he was more on defense by the start when he found out it was Ralph but before all that he was going blow for blow with a fully armored Ralph
Could you do a vid on all the 2012 TMNT Shredder fights? Cause those go hard.
You gotta talk about how they spent bacc for big bro
What y'all know about this movie? This movie was so peak!
Leo definitely humbled Raph in this fight
Had this shi on dvd nihh
Man when I was a kid me and my lil bro where on that DBZ timing I remember us running each other down in the hallway and I side step lil bro, knee check him the the sternum and double axe handle his ass between the shoulder blades. Full on knocked the rings out this boy, had him sprawled out in the linoleum floor like a star fish. It was exquisite.
This is my childhood right here
As someone with 13 siblings… you shouldn’t have reneged on your last statement
Whether 6 minutes or 36, Uno is gonna cook
Please do the rest of the movie.
i played the gamecube version really good game
Ngl bru, you should do a part 2 with where they actually go to box up with the statue mfs, I need sum like that 😂😂😂
Can we get some clone wars lightsaber fights? Sidious vs Maul and Savage especially?
3:42💪🏾
0:00 alr a banger W🎉
Post a part 2 please, when they went to get leo
Please do a video on Yoda being a giant ass fraud. Pulled up on Sidious only to get hit by one blast force lightning and go into hiding for the next 19 years.
Meanwhile Obi-Wan was completely locked in against the Chosen One on Mustafar.
I LOVE YOU UNO W VID
Oh nah drake moved here? Damn we gotta disinfect the whole state.😂
As a Texas native you're right
Yuhhhhh my boiii from texas what's up cuz
To think wed get a sequel had they not closed down thiz movie was raw you gotta dp the fight scene with the statue guys
Could you do "The originals" Klaus vs everyone 🤔
Raph is a better fighter he got that dog.
4:09 which youtuber is this?😂
Calebcity
Speaking of Tmnt there working on a last ronin tmnt game
Bro starts off disrespecting the night watcher fit. Minus 5 points for the disrespect
They scrapping cause Leo's ego is so massive he can't handle there being another vigilante in new york meanwhile raph's sick of Leo's " im better than everyone" attitude, which is why he cooks his shit after leo goes " Im better than you" like nah you got a better reach on your weapons homie and that's it and he still snapped that shit like a twig. TLDR Raph tired of leo acting like He owns the turtles when their brothers.
Me the middle growing up with just women
"Drake just moved here a couple days ago YUCK"
Can you do the TMNT out of the shadows fight scenes?
As a native new Yorker your absolutely right, there aint shit here, it is gotham, please someone help me
On that New York Topic. Gotham was obviously based on New York.... Let that sink in a bit. New your and Florida also has the most Jamaican Immigrants.... also let that sink in.
Nah, I was on Leonardo's Side.
Hahahahahahaha ending vid commentary. Otherworld channel 6 news of Blacula TV black children have been finding all over the world and it might be nice to one UA-cam channel. Lol. Just kiddin God. Love the commentary.
I am sure my family isn't the only one to be like this but. (Kind of the, "well back in my day.." sort of thing.......lol.. lame 😑)
man as a kid that's all my family did, well mainly my uncles and older or same age cousins and brother. We would just randomly start going straight hands and grapple techniques (since we are kind of a wrestling family, older cousins, my uncle and myself all went to state in highschool so it was scrapin' like crazy. Freakin weight disadvantage though, was only 125lbs cutting to 119lbs, 5'7" by my senior year, but I was dumb strong (235 (or 250 can't remember exactly now) bench, and 225 clean and 550 squat, 3 foot vertical, with a stupid amount of stamina, fastest Cross Country race (which I only did a year of that crap to shut my friend up and and win a bet that id smoke his ass. Did it after 2 races, dude was doing Cross Country for years lawl.) got 18:26 in 3.1 miles, also ran 12 miles in 2 hours for a charity event once. So I could go almost 10 toes with them, (except my big ass uncles, crap was unfair asf sometimes.) Hell id play quarters and bloody knuckles all the time even with my teachers (I have boney asf hands so I know that crap hurt.) It was all in good fun, just something we did since I was like 8 years old (freakin 28 years ago fml) + firework fights, those were fun lol ( Seriously though, don't do it though, its dangerous and stupid. We kind of found out the hard way lol.
Love your videos, always camping youtube for your videos lol. Keep up the good work!
fuck this movie brings back movies
I remember the game
Starting to notice that a gang of anime/comic content creators are from Tx. That’s what’s up
I thought bro lived somewhere around California idk he lived in texas as well😂
Come to NY fam 😭 the rats aint that bad lmao just keep walking, dont be a tourist
Wassup
Ngl bro Leo could have folded this man way earlier the fight Brody could have snuck him but chose to yap
Movie name?
Are you serious? Tmnt
@@yolandaholleycarwell687 just that?
@@ashanime5655 Yep. The 2007 film called "TMNT".
Idk my sibling looking real punchable 😂 sorry not sorry
This was what I associated with teenage mutant ninja turtles, I was kind of disappointed with all the other stuff in the franchise. I mean, it wasn’t terrible but come on.
Yo first
Drake just moved here two days ago. Yuck! 😂
Drake slander is unnecessary
2:33 why Florida catching a stray 😂