Street Bob 114 with S&S Slip ons does it need a tune?
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Does the Harley Street Bob 1124 need a tune with S&S slash cut slip ons?
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Hell yes!! I got the SS slipons for my 2020 Heritage 114 in chrome. Love em'. They sound better the more miles i put on them. I never had an issue with poor performance. Never tuned either
Bike looks great! I really like how HD moved all the cat to the mufflers so you can just get slip-ons for more power instead of a full system.
Thanks Mark! Yeah it makes a pretty big difference just need to figure out the tuning situation. Thanks for watching👊👊
Glad they did!
It’s always a “win/win” when Cox is involved!! Excellent video sir!!
When Cox rubs his head, you know something good is coming out....... wait, what?
Great video. The bike sounds especially agree. Love it. Glad to hear someone else saying that you NEED TO TUNE THE M8 114 WHEN ADDING SLIP-ONS. Can't tell you how many people have told me that I'm full of crap when I say that.
I got your back Percy. Runs a lot better with a tune. My 107 did fine with slip ons and no tune but the 114 was a different story.
Did you happen to run without the tune? Because my 21 street Bob is very choppy throttle at low speed and just feels sluggish (WITHOUT TUNE) I’m getting screaming eagle tuner this Thursday
They told me at the dealer I wouldn’t need a tune and I was doubtful. Glad I chose to stick it out. I’ll do it myself. Good video thank you
Because you are. 2 years later and it’s been repeatedly proven that you DONT need a tune on the m8 114s when simply adding slip ons. Never understood how/why people believe their anecdotal evidence = general truth.
I reached out to Vance and Hines last month. They have prototypes for 2021 and according to them will be released in a couple of months.
They told me the same. Hopefully it hits sooner rather than later. Thanks for watching👊👊
What sucks is you will lose the warranty
Very nice. Sounds so much better than stock. Can’t wait to hear the 2-1 system.
Sound was clipping really bad. Very excited for the 2-1👊👊
Thank you for the information. I have been told so many different answers to this question. Including the Dealership telling me my Bike would need 4 hours on the Dyno. When I do a stage 1.
I was told the same. There's no way I was going to pay for that. I can't imagine it taking 4 hours to tune the bike for slip ons.
Stealership lol
11:15 is the start up and engine sound time.
TaDa!!! Surprise!!
Got my 2022 Street Bob. Ordered a 2 Brothers two into one exhaust.
A base screaming eagle tune.
And call it good. Till the warranty expires...
I don't know what was wrong with your bike. But I just threw a pair of slippons on my 114, and it runs perfectly fine.
Great video. Fun fact, even the V&H FP3 makes the bike run a little too lean I am told... I run a TTS Mastertune on my CVO and what a difference!
I think I’m gonna give the power vision a run on my 21 if it ever becomes available.
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I just traded my 18 Slim for a white fxbbs and I love it! I put some s&s grand national slip ons on it but haven't tuned it yet. My bike seems to run the same as the stock mufflers and my salesman said I shouldn't have to tune it with just slip ons.
I got conflicting answers from two different dealers. The stage one map on the screaming eagle tuner list high flow air cleaner and slip ons that’s what Harley I guess is considering a stage one. My bike definitely ran better after the tune.
I remember when I put the S&S slip on my bike would stall on the highway. I got a tune and it stopped stalling at highway speeds.
@@TonysGarage I'm most likely gonna buy the tuner anyway, I want it to run at it's best
@@TonysGarageI wonder if it because the db reducers are out of yours?
I have 2021 114 Heritage Classic and wanting to change my pipes in it. Thanks for the review and informing us that the bike needs to be tuned afterwards by HD so I need to get my ducks in row when I do. Safe riding.
I wonder how can Harley win over new buyers when they do stuff like this. If any thing people will become really disgusted with all these nickel and dime shenanigans.
#doubtfulfuture
The catalytic converter in the 2021 bikes, touring anyway, are in the stock head pipes, not the mufflers.
And I was told that I would have to have it mapped of course. But I'm wondering if I need to have it mapped again take out the decibel reducers or cut them down a little
I just bought a lowrider St today and I'm waiting for them to get the stage one done. I had them install a screaming eagles extreme ventilator air breather with S&S slip-ons
Never seen the black slash cut that match the heat shields available online, only the grey coloured ones which I ended up having to settle with. I’m jealous.
Where were they from and do you have a sku number for them? When I look on the S&S website it says find a dealer. Also the photo shows the grey ones (that don’t match the HD heat shield) , not black. Or if you have a link please post it :)
Perhaps they are European Spec? Or is it California Spec
Nice throaty sound !
It’s a great video Tony, I haven’t started customising my one yet as still running in and parts are very slow here too. In the uk spec bikes we have an O2 sensor actually in the muffler near the back of the pipe so even slip ons I don’t think are about yet. Ride safe mate.
Hey Beans, I bought the street Bob 114 yesterday here in the UK. on chatting to Gateshead Harley, it appears that V&H has sent some exhausts out to dealers to test out. Hopefully, we shall see them hit the shelves soon for us to purchase.
What is the AFR of the stock tune while cruising, accelerating etc.. and what is the AFR after the tune? without that info this is all conjecture and bro science
I do like the S&S mini teardrop. I want one for my Sporty
Hands down the best air cleaner I’ve used and I’ve had a shit ton🤣😂
Nice high tech intro graphics. Pro
I know people who have run 2-1 exhausts on the 21 street bobs without a tune and no issue. One of my brothers ran just slip ons no tune but once he added the tuner it ran alot better
I asked my local dealership and they said the guarantee gets voided if it doesn’t get a tune, which hasn’t came out yet for the 2021 models…. So I suggest putting it back in stock
Good Video and nice to meet you.. I put the exact same slip-ons on my 2021 Streetbob.. I took out the DB reducers also.. They dont sound bad.. They dont sound great.. The bike runs great with 0 decel pop.. DK Customs did a whole video about fuel and slip-ons with the 2021 114inchers, that showed me they dont run lean with slip-on only.. Just what Ive seen and heard and feel.. I sub'd !
Thanks for watching👊👊👊👊
Can anybody tell me what the VCI number is. There's a dozen numbers on my Delphi module.
I’ve got to 22 street bob and we’re doing that right now, slip bonds and a tune, it should be done in a couple of hours
What tune did you go with?
What slip ons and tuner did you go with ?
Looking at the S&S filter for mine as well they look trick. Yours sounds good with those slip ons..👍🏻🇦🇺
Hands down the best air cleaner I’ve used. Thanks for watching👊👊
Hey Cox, great Video. Definitely helpful! Would you recommend these slip ons over Vance & hines, and some others? Also, as for the tuning, Have you yet found since making this video anywhere else to get that computer mod for less?
I wonder what tuner you can use with a full exhaust system. I have a Powervision that was mated to he Sportster that I traded in. I understand that EPA has their dirty fingers on the scale and that “off road use only “ tuners will one are banned. If I had known about the EPA/Harley conspiracy, I would have never traded in my Dyna and Sportster. There has to be a way around the Communists. I hope that you can come up with something. I might just sell my 2020 Softail Standard and just keep my 17 year old Yamaha FZ1.
The screaming eagle will work just require some tuning.
EPA standards suck, as do noise limits(Yes yes I know I'm a horrible, anti-social human). I have difficulties with words too, nothing helps :D
Really nice intro man and that bike is absolutely stunning, sounds tasty now too :)
Thanks man👍👍👍.
Theres dynatuner is out now
Great looking bike and now you are making me wanna purchase these slip ons lol. Did you buy the slash cut versions over the rounder grand nationals for looks? Thoughts on those?
I have exact same bike...for my Stage 1 I had to go with the SE Pro Street tuner and the SE Street Cannons . The dealer wouldn't let me use any other pipes to keep my warranty because they are a#%$holes.
That being said i was quite impressed with the extra power that I got with this set up. By the seat of the pants dyno I would say 10/15 percent more power and torgue. These M8s are really choked off from the factory. So I ended up pretty happy with SE set up.
Big fan of S&S. Would love to get the same set up. Do you know if this stage one set-up would work on a 2020 Softail Standard 107 CI ? I also like this set-up because it's much more affordable and reasonable cost vs the full exhaust systems out there. Plus they look really good!!
You might as well get a full exhaust.
You stated in your reply about the S&S air filter you were going to use it stock ? So does the S&S air cleaner come with a external breather tube and a catch can , or does it just vent the oily mist back into the throttle body ? If it does not vent to the outside would you still considered it to be a performance part ? Thanks
Full system woooo
Thanks for watching👊👊
Hi Tony, as mentioned by Beans earlier the O2 sensor on the UK bike is in the rear of the muffler. Just wondering where it is on the US bikes if not the same?
Just installed my s and s on my 21 street Bob. I’m having same issue, bike runs funny especially at low speed and when getting on it. Was this what you were experiencing? My tuner comes in Thursday
Yes sir. A tune will solve all those problems.
i have a 117 with a high flow breather stock. do i need a tuner for slip ons?? should have came stock tuned for the breather correct?
Same. 2023 lowrider S. Lots of different answers.
@@bobdunwiddie i added some slip ons to mine. seems to run great without a tune. no power loss sounds great. should be fine!
@@robc666 Thx. Share pic plz. Always like to get ideas.
I have a 2020fxbb and I cant decide between s&s slash cut or v&h twin slash. Which one is louder or better?
The V&H are definitely louder. The S&S are not nearly as loud but keeps some back pressure which helps with your low end torque.
@@TonysGarage thank you!
Also, I’ve seen some people say a tune is only necessary for a full exhaust…🤔 Is it totally necessary for these slip on’s? Thanks!
i have the s&S slip ons and has been tuned by harley.. can i remove the baffles without taking it back to harley?
Also, Is it true that you need to put a certain amount of mileage on the bike before you can do anything to the exhaust at all?
Hello! Who made your custom seat with the colored stitching? Is it more comfortable? Thanks for the video! I have the same bike and I've been wanting slip ons. So many to choose from! Anyone using the Rinehart's here on this bike? Louder / better than V&H slash cuts?
But the dealer has to install and setup the SE fuel tuner to keep the factory warranty, correct?
All depends on your dealer.
Would you add an external breather on your bike
That’s not true I didn’t have to do mine and I put same slip on ons I kept same air filter
Everyone experience will differ, but Harley does recommend a tune with slip ons. I talked to two different dealer one said no the other said yes. So it seems it is up for debate.
@@TonysGarage my bike ran the same after the slip ons but like I say I kept my same air cleaner
My bike stalled with the s&s slash cuts with the baffles inside still with no tune at highway speeds. I got the tune from the dealer and the stalling stopped
mines the same as yours Fred Child of GOD, S&S slash cuts slip-ons with no tune and fine. I have left the Decibel Reducers in.
hey Tony, nice video. Just out of interest do you get a lot of Induction sound on over-run? if so, what would you say it sounds like?
Nothing that is out of the ordinary. I do get a weird noise when I shut the bike off almost like a whine from the cleaner.
Intake no tune but any exhaust change you need a tune. Great vids :)
Nope it's the opposite of what you said.
@@tricgix2949 Intake does not change much but even a muffler change can make the stock lean tune even worse.
No.
Those S&S parts look badass on that Street Bob!
Thanks Ryan, now just need to find a proper tuner.
Just taken delivery of a FXBBS in the UK and it has O2 sensors in the mufflers (as well as the headers). Does the US model not come with these, as you don't mention anything about sensors when installing the slip-ons?
No O2 sensors in the mufflers here in the US.
Was that without the DB inserts?
Hey Tony just bought a 2020 softail standard 107 m8. And purchased cobra mufflers, leaving air cleaner along right now. Will I be ok without a tuner for the time being. Down the road will change intake.
With the stock air cleaner on the 107 you will be fine.
I’m curious if this only applies to the street bob? I just put slip ons on my 21 Fat bob and have no issues but the fat bob has the cats in the pipes not on the slip ons
I would say only the bikes with the cats in the mufflers.
If you use the screaming eagle tuner, does it void your warranty to use it when you get two into one pipes?
Nope warranty stays intact
Super video neighbor! Just wondering how many total dollars are you up to now counting initial cost of bike?
Man, honestly I don’t want to know🤣😂
@@TonysGarage never look at receipts!
Never, those those bastards away🤣😂
Hey Tony, does the Harley Pro Street tuner allow you to adjust/lower your idle speed in addition to tuning the bike?
Honestly I haven’t spent that much time with it yet.
No worries. Thank you for the reply. Keep up the great work!
I think I remember you used an external breather on your Iron. Are you going to be doing the same on the 114 at some point? Or is it a waste of money?
No, gonna stick with the S&S stealth it’s a fantastic air cleaner.
I am having a big problem with pipes, tuners, warranty, etc. for my 2021 Fat Boy. I've spoken with Harley (corporate) and I learn with each conversation. I haven't solved my problem yet, but I'd like to have a conversation with you so that we can share information. You may know something that I don't and visa versa.
What kind of problem are you having?
@@TonysGarage which parts are really comparable with which tuners, etc...
The Harley wants all Harley parts. The FP3 has the most options. I prefer the FP3 for its ease of use but it does void your warranty. If you keep the warranty intact your only option is the Harley tuner. It does have a pretty good autotune if you wanna use aftermarket parts.
@@TonysGarage Except Harley installed my pipes (purchased through them) that are not compatble with the Harley tuner. People aren't aware of whats compatable and whats not. Even Harley doesnt know.
What pipes are you running
You took your baffles out?
The db reducers yes sir.
I have 3 M8 114s. 2 with high air flow air cleaners, I stock air box. All with aftermarket exhaust with the baffles in, 909 Speedsters, SS, and V/H exhaust, bikes run great, no issues, no decel pop, no hesitation or stuttering. 2020 FXLRS, 2019 Roadking, and 2019 FXDR. I guess the 2021 tuners do not have the range the 2019 and 2020s did. On my 2017 Sporster, I had to download a V/H FP3.
That SS intake is smoking hot, looks good on your bike.
Its fuking badass
I'm about to put slip-ons on my 2021 SG CVO. I guess that means it will need a tune?
Touring bikes cats are in the headers not the mufflers so you should be good.
Slip on don’t need a tune
Any chance you can add link to parts you used? Want to make sure i get the right stuff. 😀 i have 2021 harley-davidson softail street bob fxbbs 114. Its only for slim?
What part you looking for? Air cleaner or slip ons.
@@TonysGarage does stock air cleaner work with slip on?
Yes no problem. The stock air cleaner on a 114 is already high flow only reason to change it is if you want a different look.
@@TonysGarage ok. What slip ons did you use? Can i get a link to the slip ons? Or a part number?
www.sscycle.com/
My Reinharts sounds much better on my 2021 street bob
Every person I know that has installed the V&H slip ons did NOT need a tune. Probably should have bought those instead.
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