In all honesty the man who truly took Blink from quality punk band to international superstars was not Travis; it was Jerry Finn. In my opinion even if Scott stays on drums for Enema they still blow up because Tom and Mark were marketable and Finn would work his magic either way. The band was already signed to MCA/Geffen and they were the ones responsible for pushing Blink onto every single MTV related TV program possible and virtually forcing their exposure everywhere because of their marketability. With Scott on drums, Blink would have stayed truer to their roots for a much longer time and we'd still have gotten all the magical songs that came out of this album, just with a much more skate punk feel.
This is totally accurate; I was actually going to post something similar myself. Finn also encouraged them to use a lot more harmonies, which is something interesting about this demo--it had backup harmonies in a few places, but not that Often, once Finn steps in, you have thickly produced harmonies throughout the verse on "she's not that old / I've been told" etc etc. He gave em the buff and shine
I mean Scott was battling with addiction.. so of course they had to get rid of him, they were having a bunch of issues with him. That's what the song Man Overboard is about. How they love Scott but they had to end it with him because he couldn't get it together
It was way more about marketing. Scott eventually went straight and he's fine now, actually looking great for his age. Even though Jimmy Chamberlin abused heroin and had to be resuscitated one night, Corgan couldn't make a decent marketable song without that guy as the secret sauce and he fell off. Now he's back in the band doing big reunion tours. $$$$$
To quote Jerry Finn, “The sound of modern records today is compression. Every time I say, ‘I’m not gonna compress that.’ The band comes in and goes, ‘Why isn’t that compressed!’” Compression = car speaker, CD, cheap headphone and computer speaker production for the most part. While that’s a good bet to make if you’re trying to move units for majors in the 90s/00s popular “punk” explosion, it tends to date quickly for many who took to a band’s earlier approach with greater passion. And no, I’m not saying it’s bad or makes the songs bad, but it does take most of the live and human elements of band interplay and pushes them aside in favor of mass audible consumption and listening convenience. For example, Oasis’s Definitely Maybe is one of my favorite records ever, but it’s brick walled and compressed to shit which can get grating in its artificial volume “boosting”. If you listen to them live around the same timeframe it still sounds huge, but much less confined and bound together musically. Another good example is The Offspring’s Ignition and Smash vs. what came after. Thom Wilson and Jerry Finn couldn’t have had more different approaches if they tried, but consider the best songs off of those early Offspring records against their hits from Americana. What recording sounds more like a band playing live and what one sounds more geared to be less so? Does any of this matter? No. But it’s fun to consider the alternative outcomes if bands like Blink and The Offspring (or hey, AFI and Green Day) hadn’t bought in on mass appeal by approach change and stuck with what was already working for them on a less-magnified/TRL involving level.
It's not about the skill. It's not about the quality. It's not about how technically better Travis is than Scott. People have to realize that Blink was a punk band up until 1998. They toured with bands like Lagwagon, Penny-wise, 7 Seconds etc. It's not about how good Scott is at drums, it's about his style. He's a pure punk drummer. As I scroll through these comments below, it looks to me like most of these people are typical mainstream Blink fans (post Travis), which is fine! That's normal. But you have to understand where blink was in sound before they had Travis, as to after. Punk to mainstream. Huge change, right?
Totally agree. Scott is a punk drummer, plain and simple. Coulda been your buddy from high school (albeit, what he does takes quite a bit more skill than what Mark or Tom do, instrumentally speaking). Travis took blink from that underground punk sound / style to international super stardom. I don't think it woulda been the same with Scott, it couldn't have been. So that brings up another issue entirely. Would blink be as charming if they didn't make it to that international stage? Would any of us be talking about them? Hard to say - and whatever you answer, you probably have to give Travis some of the credit for the fact we all came to know and love them. All of that said. I agree with you. I have a soft spot for rawness. I have a soft spot for the underdog. I have a soft spot for authenticity. And I have a soft spot for Scott. :)
I was so fucking waiting for people like you! I'm a huge fan of blink, and personally, I love every album being California my favorite, but despite my "thing" for that quality sound of "Bored to Death", I really enjoy the old school blink, and it feels so good to know that there's people out there who can give an opinion about how Scott is better than Travis without hating on everyone who likes post-enema blink. The thing with blink is that they've been through so many different styles, like really raw punk rock, some skate punk and some experimental shit in 2003, plus changes with Tom on 2015. I really love blink and it's my favorite band, and thank you, for giving such a fucking good opinion, 'cause I ironically hate haters :D (and yes, as blink 182 fan, I can say that this mutt version is reeaally awesome)
Evan their style became more dynamic not only because of the addition of Travis but their producer Jerry who worked on enema and take off your pants. He demanded better takes and created that tight studio polished sound that wasn't really around the late 90s
and that's why I much prefer this version. It could slot straight into Dude Ranch - the best raw pop punk album of all time. Personally, I just didn't like the mainstream sound after DR.
My favorite aspect of this song was that it was also produced by Mark Trombino, so along with Scott's drums it sounds much more like a lost Dude Ranch track.
@@jedschrock7636 absolutely. Dude Ranch will always be my favorite album by them but Jerry Finn really helped them get to the next level as songwriters and performers.
Scott is like Chad Channing, Nirvana's first drummer. Both are great drummers who were replaced by 2 of the best drummers of all time. Unfortunately it gives them unfair scrutiny but Scott and Chad are still great drummers.
I’m not trying to ‘one up’ you man just sharing the love… I saw them back in 95 when they came to Australia for the first time. Pretty sure Scott Raynor was only 17 and the other 2 were 18. We and my 2 mates hung back after the show and we helped them carry their equipment out to their van. We hung out for a couple of hours. As you could imagine, Mark and Tom were absolute lunatics!!! Hahaha
It's really unique. It has that Scott Sound. He completely changes the sound of the band. I always thought it was just them maturing but I guess I was wrong.
I really, really prefer Scott. Travis is obviously great, but I think he overdoes it a lot of the time. All those fancy fills are cool and sound great but nothing compares to Scott for me.
Scott punished the drums, with strength and enthusiasm, really punk, thanks to Scott we had an excellent drums, that from 92 to 98, he was 14/19 years old, this boy did a good job and then he was replaced by someone with characteristics that served better for the transition that the band (MARK COF COF) wanted
I love Scotts snare sound better than the snare Travis uses. I think Travis bores 2 or 3 inch holes in the side to create a louder sound, but it creates this thin sound also. Where Scotts has some mid, low end sound to it.
@@Dr4go0 I don't mind his new voice on records, but I know his voice live is questionable. I'm going to see AvA this fall (first time seeing him perform live), so that'll be interesting.
I disagree. While I don't really care about Blink-182 anymore no matter who the guitarist and other singer is (that is not Mark), Tom could NOT sing for anything! I swear, either he always used autotune on studio recordings, or his singing just deteriorated over the years..... I've yet to see or hear a live recording pre-Enema where he sounded in key, at least similar in key with any songs he sang on any Blink album.
+8gerrard8 that's how it always is! An 80 year old would prefer 60's music lol Just like you like the stuff you grew up with. I honestly like all their music. But nonetheless, Travis did make blink 182 "big". As a matter a fact people know Travis more than the rest of the group. And! ... He's probably the most known drummer.
im only 25 so when dude ranch came out i was only 6. this isnt about age, its just a fact that dude ranch is their best album, it has the fastest drumming, more punk vocals, best story telling, no autotuned vocals. i like some of enema, i also like all the small things and the fact that enema had a few songs that would have sounded good in dude ranch if you remove some of the autotune = this version of mutt, dumpweed, dysentary gary, anthem, aliens exist, what's my age again but after enema blink 182 lost the will to make music and just made easy pop music to make money off teenagers. i particularly hate the change in vocals from mark hoppus, he sounds so different in dude ranch compared to everything afterwards, he sold out the most whilst tom still had that raspy, aggressive tone in most of enema and then it vanished on the next albums as well. take off your pants doesnt compare to enema, let alone dude ranch.
Before you criticise Scott, just know that he played an entire show while in crutches after an injury. The skate punk style of drumming requires a lot of energy and effort. We probably will; never know the real reason Scott was fired from the band. Travis certainly added a distinct flavour to them, but I think sometimes, his fills and intricate playing kind of overlapped the song itself at times. Some songs sounds better with just accurate and linear drumming. I also loved the Snare sound they had on Dude Ranch. The snare sound they gave to Travis' drums don't sound as full, it sounds kinda shallow.
The Scott vs. Travis debate is worthless, without Scott there wouldn't have been blink at all most likely. They were best friends and were successfull made great music and had fun doing what they did. Scott was a key of the band like Mark and Tom, they together started from the bottom, crafted Carousel, M+M's, Wasting Time, Peggy Sue, Dammit, Josie just to name a few of their more popular songs but also blasts like 21 Days, Touchdown Boy, Does My Breath Smell?, Enthused, Wrecked Him and more give you the good vibes of californian teenage summer days back then. Scott fitted them from the start they went to school together and climb up the charts and popularity I couldn't imagine Travis on their original early blink records. But.. without Scott going away, blink probably wouldn't evolve to what they sounded like since Enema of the State, more polished for the new age instead of just fast and beating great sounds. Though, songs like Dammit and Josie must been written much later 1996/1997 as they sound more towards EOTS in a way, some Dude Ranch songs appeared on very early demos like Demo #2 and Buddha Promo Tape. Going from Scott to Travis was a good thing, but sad thing. Either way blink would have been great but probably different in a way. Some say, Travis was the better drummer.. I mean come on he was 5/6 years older than Scott and more experienced. Mark, Tom und Scott were young and grew blink together and had the same punky sound that fitted them together perfectly. Travis came from a various music genre with Hip Hop roots too bringing into a different pattern to blink. Scott and Travis have their legacy in blink-182, just like Mark and Tom. It's sad that Scott did go, but Travis was great addition to go further.
If you think about it Scott was between 14yo to 19yo playing the drums in Blink. That is totally mind-blowing - you had to be talented to pull that off. It is unfair to compare Travis, who was in his mid-twenties, to a teenage kid with raw talent that never developed beyond a bloody good punk drummer. I reckon Scott could have developed further as a drummer for Blink but we will never know now.
i finally feel confident enough to share my two cents. it might be because i love punk rock, but scott will always be my preferred from the drummers. 21 days, im sorry, and this version of mutt. i love travis barker, but scott raynor helped to implement the name blink across the world. i hope he’s doing well. edit october 2023 - i’ve looked at this comment a lot recently, especially with tom coming back, and i’m not sure if it’s reflection or a change in preference. i gotta now say that i prefer scott in blink’s punk days, and travis in blink’s post-punk/current days, especially with “One More Time…” coming in a week. regardless, both contributed to the most important parts of blink respectively, and have influenced me and countless other drummers/musicians overall
This was so cool, didn't know this version existed! I love that it basically sounds like it belongs on Dude Ranch. Kinda makes you wonder what Enema would of sounded without all that production polish (not bashing enema, great album, but it does make you wonder). Cool upload thanks!
What's ironic is now Tom feels the pains of being an outsider.... Without Scott having got them started, Blink may not be where they are today..... or maybe they would. But, he had an upbeat, punk go-for-it vibe.
this is probably what enema would have sounded like without travis... wow Edit: just for clarification I’m glad travis joined and he’s what they needed as a band to get as big as they did
i fucking wish! travis seems like a cool dude and hes obv a hell of a drummer, but this band fucking died when Scott was gone. i cant even imagine how good Enema coulda been, looking at Cheshire then Dude Ranch
@@cags113 Blink would have been just another punk band like mxpx, milencolin, pulley etc all those great bands from the early 90s. nothing wrong with that but they'd never reach the heights they did without travis.
@@lv999sozkyy4 They’d probably be at the same level of Fame As Rush or something. Not too Big, but Big enough to garner fans who aren’t just interested in the 2 or 3 hit songs the band put out. And they probably wouldn’t be pressured by their record label and not have their creative freedom be limited.
Then Listen To I Won’t be Home For Christmas; recorded at the same time as This version of Mutt with Scott. It Would be the base for stuff like The Rock Show and First Date on TOYPAJ.
Holy fuck this is good. I wonder what Enema would sound like if Scott was still in the band. Dude Ranch is fucking fantastic and is honestly pretty much my favorite blink material, and Enema the way it is is also fantastic, but I really wish they would've made more stuff with Scott after Dude Ranch. It'd be AWESOME to have a version of Enema or other new songs (at the time) with Scott in them. A good mix of that mainstream-pop punk sound and that rougher, dude ranch punky sound.
Here's my take on the whole Travis vs. Scott thing... Travis plays to play, hence his technicality, and Scott plays the song. If Scott hadn't been kicked out, the band would've gone a completely different direction I think... Most of enema would probably sound like this... Which would've been awesome. But, hey, it is what it is. I like Travis a lot, but Scott was a better fit in my opinion.
dude youre the only one i found on here that totally agrees with me. scott had huge potential. travis is good too but its over casting scotts ability. it took scotts effort to get them to enema. nobody remembers that
Oh bore off, what an ignorant statement. Blink were hardly a punk band anyway! Most punk drummers lack individualism and just play the same beat super quick over and over. Travis offers way more than that.
Yeah this is my take as well. This version sounds earnest and rough, particularly without the triple tracked vocals that are in Enema. It feels more direct in a way that I like but doesn’t play well on radio. Love how Scott’s drumming makes this song kind of float along. There’s a fun sense of momentum in this version because of it.
Hey guys I have an idea! Because next year is the 20 year anniversary of Cheshire Cat, Blink should play through the whole album. Not only that, but they should bring in Scott! The crowd would go nuts once they see him up there on that stage!
I believe their original stuff would have not taken them this far as of today with out Travis. Although, I do believe their stuff was good for its era.
ThatXoneXguy disagree man, when Blink released Enema in ‘99 they were at the forefront of pop punk. I know there were some bands around like Lit and others at the time that we’re heading in that direction but, Blink was the band that made pop punk popular. I don’t believe they went with that sound because it was popular bands like Lit for example that had had success with a poppier sound still weren’t have near the success Blink had.
It’s really funny getting notifications for comments I made 4 years ago, I can’t even tell ya the last time I listened to blink, it’s just been a lot of straight edge hardcore 😬
Scott will always be the Blink 182 drummer for me. Travis is a much better drummer than he is, but Scott fits better with the original sound (the only music of theirs with staying power).
Def much more raw than the final version. Although Scott's drumming is just fine, Travis put the cherry on top with his fills, and along with Jerry Finn helped round out blink into the form and direction that brought them stardom. That's not taking anything away from Scott, in fact its hard to imagine either Cheshire or Dude Ranch with Travis on the kit instead, its just that with Scott (and minus Finn) I feel that blink would have remained on the same level as an Unwritten Law, Lagwagon, Goldfinger, etc. and there also would have been nothing wrong with that if it had played out that way.
This is proof that overplaying can completely change a song, as a drummer I always say play what’s right for the song and I really love this punk roots version better! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Yes good point is I liked Nirvana debut Bleach which there drummer was Chad Channing which thought was better than follow up Nevermind which had Dave Grohl Dave is an amazing drummer but wasn't in my opinion better than Bleach. Same with Blink there early years with Scott was more rawer & less commercial not denying Travis isn't an amazing drummer like Dave Grohl because he his. But like Nirvana debut Bleach which had Chad Channing drumming the same is said for Blink when they had Scott Flyswatter, Buddha, Chesire Cat & Dude Ranch where amazing and lot rawer less commercial than there later stuff just my opinion though. Not saying you can ever have good sound be commercial course you can but depends for you want to go with being commercial and playing to the majors.
If Enema was produced by Mark Trombino it would've been totally different and probably way more like Dude Ranch, which would've been amazing. Travis did change the sound a lot too because he wasn't into playing typical punk rhythms. He likes to be flashy and it totally changed the feel of their songs. Watching Travis play fast punk beats actually is funny, he looks so damn tense. Scott looked way more natural playing fast and seemed to hit way harder too. Blink really did peak at Dude Ranch, which is sad.
Blink wouldn't be what they are today without Travis. Scott's a great solid drummer, but Travis entering the band literally brought them to new heights.
I bought this soundtrack back in the day just for this track. Scott had such a heavy, hard hitting style on the drums. I prefer the simplicity of him hitting the hell out of his drums over the flourishes and fills that Travis adds. Different era.
@Andrew Marez Scott went solely Single kick around dude ranch era; and Travis can play fast too, but definitely not the same nor surpasses the way Scott does it. And the reason Lars tends to overplay is that he has to play a lot of the same songs almost every night since Metallica is huge and tours constantly on 1.5+ hour shows, so I don’t blame him for changing it up every now and then. Travis on the other hand, yeah, that’s just his style; he likes to shred on the drums to be entertaining, but I think him switching up the beat up a lot is to make up for not being able to stay in a consistent beat on some of the faster songs while trying to hit them as hard as he can. Scott was just thunderous on the drums while Travis just likes to flex his technical playing.
Sounds ripped straight from Dude Ranch. I dig it.
Jon Dials well it’s live
@@linkheroofspiritsakatrains4812 Na, this is a studio recording, it's just a demo so it's not fully mixed and mastered
That’s because it was supposed to be on dude ranch but they decided to not release it
@@Kris.Demontiming not realy, they record mutt at the same session off i want be home for christmas also mut figure on compilation call the show
@@mywhychromosome It’s not a demo. It was finished and used for a surf film, Taylor Steele’s The Show.
You instantly hear that this is scott
Love how he punish the snare to death :D
Disturber93 HAHAHA hell yeah man
every song lol
more punk !
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Scott was a pure punk drummer
He is Metalhead fan who play for shitty punk band.
Best
In an alternate universe Scott is cracking jokes on the live album.
In all honesty the man who truly took Blink from quality punk band to international superstars was not Travis; it was Jerry Finn. In my opinion even if Scott stays on drums for Enema they still blow up because Tom and Mark were marketable and Finn would work his magic either way. The band was already signed to MCA/Geffen and they were the ones responsible for pushing Blink onto every single MTV related TV program possible and virtually forcing their exposure everywhere because of their marketability. With Scott on drums, Blink would have stayed truer to their roots for a much longer time and we'd still have gotten all the magical songs that came out of this album, just with a much more skate punk feel.
Yea like Travis is technically better but Scott’s style is better
This is totally accurate; I was actually going to post something similar myself. Finn also encouraged them to use a lot more harmonies, which is something interesting about this demo--it had backup harmonies in a few places, but not that Often, once Finn steps in, you have thickly produced harmonies throughout the verse on "she's not that old / I've been told" etc etc. He gave em the buff and shine
I mean Scott was battling with addiction.. so of course they had to get rid of him, they were having a bunch of issues with him. That's what the song Man Overboard is about. How they love Scott but they had to end it with him because he couldn't get it together
It was way more about marketing. Scott eventually went straight and he's fine now, actually looking great for his age.
Even though Jimmy Chamberlin abused heroin and had to be resuscitated one night, Corgan couldn't make a decent marketable song without that guy as the secret sauce and he fell off. Now he's back in the band doing big reunion tours. $$$$$
To quote Jerry Finn, “The sound of modern records today is compression. Every time I say, ‘I’m not gonna compress that.’ The band comes in and goes, ‘Why isn’t that compressed!’”
Compression = car speaker, CD, cheap headphone and computer speaker production for the most part. While that’s a good bet to make if you’re trying to move units for majors in the 90s/00s popular “punk” explosion, it tends to date quickly for many who took to a band’s earlier approach with greater passion. And no, I’m not saying it’s bad or makes the songs bad, but it does take most of the live and human elements of band interplay and pushes them aside in favor of mass audible consumption and listening convenience. For example, Oasis’s Definitely Maybe is one of my favorite records ever, but it’s brick walled and compressed to shit which can get grating in its artificial volume “boosting”. If you listen to them live around the same timeframe it still sounds huge, but much less confined and bound together musically. Another good example is The Offspring’s Ignition and Smash vs. what came after. Thom Wilson and Jerry Finn couldn’t have had more different approaches if they tried, but consider the best songs off of those early Offspring records against their hits from Americana. What recording sounds more like a band playing live and what one sounds more geared to be less so?
Does any of this matter? No. But it’s fun to consider the alternative outcomes if bands like Blink and The Offspring (or hey, AFI and Green Day) hadn’t bought in on mass appeal by approach change and stuck with what was already working for them on a less-magnified/TRL involving level.
It's not about the skill. It's not about the quality. It's not about how technically better Travis is than Scott. People have to realize that Blink was a punk band up until 1998. They toured with bands like Lagwagon, Penny-wise, 7 Seconds etc. It's not about how good Scott is at drums, it's about his style. He's a pure punk drummer. As I scroll through these comments below, it looks to me like most of these people are typical mainstream Blink fans (post Travis), which is fine! That's normal. But you have to understand where blink was in sound before they had Travis, as to after. Punk to mainstream. Huge change, right?
Plus the style is more powerful and upfront in-your-face, in my opinion. Which is why I like him more than Travis.
i vote for you man!
Totally agree. Scott is a punk drummer, plain and simple. Coulda been your buddy from high school (albeit, what he does takes quite a bit more skill than what Mark or Tom do, instrumentally speaking). Travis took blink from that underground punk sound / style to international super stardom. I don't think it woulda been the same with Scott, it couldn't have been. So that brings up another issue entirely. Would blink be as charming if they didn't make it to that international stage? Would any of us be talking about them? Hard to say - and whatever you answer, you probably have to give Travis some of the credit for the fact we all came to know and love them. All of that said. I agree with you. I have a soft spot for rawness. I have a soft spot for the underdog. I have a soft spot for authenticity. And I have a soft spot for Scott. :)
I was so fucking waiting for people like you! I'm a huge fan of blink, and personally, I love every album being California my favorite, but despite my "thing" for that quality sound of "Bored to Death", I really enjoy the old school blink, and it feels so good to know that there's people out there who can give an opinion about how Scott is better than Travis without hating on everyone who likes post-enema blink. The thing with blink is that they've been through so many different styles, like really raw punk rock, some skate punk and some experimental shit in 2003, plus changes with Tom on 2015. I really love blink and it's my favorite band, and thank you, for giving such a fucking good opinion, 'cause I ironically hate haters :D (and yes, as blink 182 fan, I can say that this mutt version is reeaally awesome)
Evan their style became more dynamic not only because of the addition of Travis but their producer Jerry who worked on enema and take off your pants. He demanded better takes and created that tight studio polished sound that wasn't really around the late 90s
Omfg, Tom's voice is so awesome in this. I swear, the grittier and rougher it sounds is amazing to me. :)
hell yeah me too.
toms not even in key in this version🤦♂️
@@_c3a3m_88 I like Tom's singing in this, we're not all music perfectionists. There's a beauty in flaw sometimes
Thanks, Milo-infused voice Tom.
@@aodh5966 That's what makes a record. Jerry Finn polished them too much
This song should be in Dude Ranch.
Eder Diogo Martins that would be impossible as the song was written after dude ranch came out.
sounds like it would have been.
Should have been in dude ranch
A lot of Enema of the State songs sound like Dude Ranch .
Emiliano Dean hell no none of them do its to polished and commercialised dude ranch wasn't. They took them selves less seriously
I love how this song doesn't have all the fills. Scott just smashes the snare and it sounds so much more punky.
i heard it happen right as i read it. nice
"Punky"
главное, что в ранних blink было больше энергетики, а последние альбомы просто унылая хуйня
and that's why I much prefer this version. It could slot straight into Dude Ranch - the best raw pop punk album of all time. Personally, I just didn't like the mainstream sound after DR.
My favorite aspect of this song was that it was also produced by Mark Trombino, so along with Scott's drums it sounds much more like a lost Dude Ranch track.
George Hickman Yeah dude!
agreed
Jerry Finn is amazing, and one of the best things that ever happened to blink, but Mark Trombino still deserves more love
@@jedschrock7636 absolutely. Dude Ranch will always be my favorite album by them but Jerry Finn really helped them get to the next level as songwriters and performers.
@@fivestatedrive Exactly. I can proudly say Dude Ranch is my favorite album to listen to from cover to cover
The Enema version is nice and polished and in perfect time which is why it's dope, and this clearly Dude Ranch version is dope cause that guitar tone!
It's not at all from Dude Ranch
@@PrincessDesert I think he meant more “dude ranch era”
It sounds more in line with that sound
Yes!
different drummers, different styles... love them both!!! Blink forever!
I love Tom's vocals in this
Best mutt version 🔥
I love this one so much more. It sounds way more raw, I prefer the drums actually. It sounds like the stuff I like from them.
Yeah, just listened to the one again and found it too poppy and annoying for my tastes.
Hell yeah dude.
this sounds a little too much like Dude Ranch to me. That's not a bad thing, but the more produced, poppy sound is what made them famous
Brandon The reason it sounds like Dude Ranch is why I like it :)
If you prefer this Drums over the real version....then you are a stubborn Scott-wannabe idiot
That Tom DeLonge "annoying younger brother" vocal sound from Dude Ranch! I fuckin' love his vocals on that album.
Yup, sounds like it could have been on Dude Ranch
Haha, annoying younger brother...I really like that description. : D
Scott is like Chad Channing, Nirvana's first drummer. Both are great drummers who were replaced by 2 of the best drummers of all time. Unfortunately it gives them unfair scrutiny but Scott and Chad are still great drummers.
I’ve said that before
There are about 40 drummers higher than Travis on the all time list, he is good though for sure.
Hahahahahaha Travis Barker is nowhere near one of the best drummers of all time!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣. He wouldn’t even make the top 20!
@@timsunderland5153 he is certainly one of the best drummers currently alive
@@timsunderland5153You're completely delusional.
The REAL version. Saw them play this in '97.
So lucky man
I’m not trying to ‘one up’ you man just sharing the love… I saw them back in 95 when they came to Australia for the first time. Pretty sure Scott Raynor was only 17 and the other 2 were 18.
We and my 2 mates hung back after the show and we helped them carry their equipment out to their van. We hung out for a couple of hours. As you could imagine, Mark and Tom were absolute lunatics!!! Hahaha
No you didnt
@@Bls-of1ld im pretty sure he did
It's really unique. It has that Scott Sound. He completely changes the sound of the band. I always thought it was just them maturing but I guess I was wrong.
That shows that the drummer is a very important character in a band
I really, really prefer Scott. Travis is obviously great, but I think he overdoes it a lot of the time. All those fancy fills are cool and sound great but nothing compares to Scott for me.
@@chickennn4451I agree.
There’s the drums I’m looking for. This was obviously the best line up. The MARk TOM AND SCOTT combo
Love how punk this sounds. Just amazing.
Scott punished the drums, with strength and enthusiasm, really punk, thanks to Scott we had an excellent drums, that from 92 to 98, he was 14/19 years old, this boy did a good job and then he was replaced by someone with characteristics that served better for the transition that the band (MARK COF COF) wanted
I love Scotts snare sound better than the snare Travis uses. I think Travis bores 2 or 3 inch holes in the side to create a louder sound, but it creates this thin sound also. Where Scotts has some mid, low end sound to it.
I wonder how people get this stuff. Even Flyswatter. You had to be in a school where Tom was selling the Flyswatter cassettes.
I think he put flyers up around town and he left his address on them.
my pfp is toypaj
Tom's voice sounds so good here. Hard to believe how much it's changed over the years
Yea it was his best voice ever..sadly now he hates how his voice was back then
@@Dr4go0 I don't mind his new voice on records, but I know his voice live is questionable. I'm going to see AvA this fall (first time seeing him perform live), so that'll be interesting.
@@jthorn4773 how was it? 😅
Scott Reynor Rules!!
Such a difference. I think Scotts version is honest and real. The travis version is polished and poppy.
tom should have stayed toghether for the kids
😂👏
How can he do that when the security of our country is at risk with aliens practically knocking on our galaxy?
thumbs up only because of your name
I disagree. While I don't really care about Blink-182 anymore no matter who the guitarist and other singer is (that is not Mark), Tom could NOT sing for anything! I swear, either he always used autotune on studio recordings, or his singing just deteriorated over the years..... I've yet to see or hear a live recording pre-Enema where he sounded in key, at least similar in key with any songs he sang on any Blink album.
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Many Blink fans prefer Travis over Scott. But I always liked Scotts style of drumming.
Many blink fans are also 15 year olds that prefer their shit music to cheshire cat and dude ranch
+8gerrard8 I'm 14 and I love every single song in every single albums.
+8gerrard8 that's how it always is!
An 80 year old would prefer 60's music lol
Just like you like the stuff you grew up with.
I honestly like all their music. But nonetheless, Travis did make blink 182 "big". As a matter a fact people know Travis more than the rest of the group. And! ... He's probably the most known drummer.
im only 25 so when dude ranch came out i was only 6. this isnt about age, its just a fact that dude ranch is their best album, it has the fastest drumming, more punk vocals, best story telling, no autotuned vocals. i like some of enema, i also like all the small things and the fact that enema had a few songs that would have sounded good in dude ranch if you remove some of the autotune = this version of mutt, dumpweed, dysentary gary, anthem, aliens exist, what's my age again but after enema blink 182 lost the will to make music and just made easy pop music to make money off teenagers. i particularly hate the change in vocals from mark hoppus, he sounds so different in dude ranch compared to everything afterwards, he sold out the most whilst tom still had that raspy, aggressive tone in most of enema and then it vanished on the next albums as well. take off your pants doesnt compare to enema, let alone dude ranch.
Can confirm. I'm only 17, and I think Dude Ranch is one of the best Blink albums ever.
Before you criticise Scott, just know that he played an entire show while in crutches after an injury. The skate punk style of drumming requires a lot of energy and effort.
We probably will; never know the real reason Scott was fired from the band. Travis certainly added a distinct flavour to them, but I think sometimes, his fills and intricate playing kind of overlapped the song itself at times. Some songs sounds better with just accurate and linear drumming.
I also loved the Snare sound they had on Dude Ranch. The snare sound they gave to Travis' drums don't sound as full, it sounds kinda shallow.
*Recorded and Played Dude Ranch while in Crutches. Don't think he played a show right after that injury.
Such a great song. It fell together so well.
The Scott vs. Travis debate is worthless, without Scott there wouldn't have been blink at all most likely.
They were best friends and were successfull made great music and had fun doing what they did. Scott was a key of the band like Mark and Tom, they together started from the bottom, crafted Carousel, M+M's, Wasting Time, Peggy Sue, Dammit, Josie just to name a few of their more popular songs but also blasts like 21 Days, Touchdown Boy, Does My Breath Smell?, Enthused, Wrecked Him and more give you the good vibes of californian teenage summer days back then.
Scott fitted them from the start they went to school together and climb up the charts and popularity I couldn't imagine Travis on their original early blink records.
But.. without Scott going away, blink probably wouldn't evolve to what they sounded like since Enema of the State, more polished for the new age instead of just fast and beating great sounds. Though, songs like Dammit and Josie must been written much later 1996/1997 as they sound more towards EOTS in a way, some Dude Ranch songs appeared on very early demos like Demo #2 and Buddha Promo Tape.
Going from Scott to Travis was a good thing, but sad thing. Either way blink would have been great but probably different in a way.
Some say, Travis was the better drummer.. I mean come on he was 5/6 years older than Scott and more experienced. Mark, Tom und Scott were young and grew blink together and had the same punky sound that fitted them together perfectly.
Travis came from a various music genre with Hip Hop roots too bringing into a different pattern to blink.
Scott and Travis have their legacy in blink-182, just like Mark and Tom.
It's sad that Scott did go, but Travis was great addition to go further.
FUCK your SCOTT Blink would have existed with or without him
Well said.
@@PrincessDesertTom and Scott literally started the band, dude. So they definitely wouldn’t have existed without him.
If you think about it Scott was between 14yo to 19yo playing the drums in Blink. That is totally mind-blowing - you had to be talented to pull that off. It is unfair to compare Travis, who was in his mid-twenties, to a teenage kid with raw talent that never developed beyond a bloody good punk drummer. I reckon Scott could have developed further as a drummer for Blink but we will never know now.
i finally feel confident enough to share my two cents. it might be because i love punk rock, but scott will always be my preferred from the drummers. 21 days, im sorry, and this version of mutt. i love travis barker, but scott raynor helped to implement the name blink across the world. i hope he’s doing well.
edit october 2023 - i’ve looked at this comment a lot recently, especially with tom coming back, and i’m not sure if it’s reflection or a change in preference. i gotta now say that i prefer scott in blink’s punk days, and travis in blink’s post-punk/current days, especially with “One More Time…” coming in a week. regardless, both contributed to the most important parts of blink respectively, and have influenced me and countless other drummers/musicians overall
im pretty sure hes a cop now!
wow what a difference expensive record production and producers, sound engineers make
OG is better IMO!
Man, I remember reading about this song before EOTS was released. It took me forever to find this one floating around the internet.
This was so cool, didn't know this version existed! I love that it basically sounds like it belongs on Dude Ranch. Kinda makes you wonder what Enema would of sounded without all that production polish (not bashing enema, great album, but it does make you wonder). Cool upload thanks!
Scott and Travis are both beasts
What's ironic is now Tom feels the pains of being an outsider.... Without Scott having got them started, Blink may not be where they are today..... or maybe they would. But, he had an upbeat, punk go-for-it vibe.
this is probably what enema would have sounded like without travis... wow
Edit: just for clarification I’m glad travis joined and he’s what they needed as a band to get as big as they did
i fucking wish! travis seems like a cool dude and hes obv a hell of a drummer, but this band fucking died when Scott was gone. i cant even imagine how good Enema coulda been, looking at Cheshire then Dude Ranch
@@cags113 Blink would have been just another punk band like mxpx, milencolin, pulley etc all those great bands from the early 90s. nothing wrong with that but they'd never reach the heights they did without travis.
@@qaipak1 I would of liked to see that Timeline tbh. Imagine the different albums they might have conjured in obscurity.
@@lv999sozkyy4 They’d probably be at the same level of Fame As Rush or something. Not too Big, but Big enough to garner fans who aren’t just interested in the 2 or 3 hit songs the band put out. And they probably wouldn’t be pressured by their record label and not have their creative freedom be limited.
Then Listen To I Won’t be Home For Christmas; recorded at the same time as This version of Mutt with Scott. It Would be the base for stuff like The Rock Show and First Date on TOYPAJ.
Travis is insane but i prefer scotts raw more sloppy style. Travis is a machine, scott was street punk
I can't believe how good is this version!
Holy fuck this is good. I wonder what Enema would sound like if Scott was still in the band. Dude Ranch is fucking fantastic and is honestly pretty much my favorite blink material, and Enema the way it is is also fantastic, but I really wish they would've made more stuff with Scott after Dude Ranch. It'd be AWESOME to have a version of Enema or other new songs (at the time) with Scott in them. A good mix of that mainstream-pop punk sound and that rougher, dude ranch punky sound.
It would've been punk rock! Not the lame pop punk style that made them millions with travis. Straight sold out sound.
Here's my take on the whole Travis vs. Scott thing... Travis plays to play, hence his technicality, and Scott plays the song. If Scott hadn't been kicked out, the band would've gone a completely different direction I think... Most of enema would probably sound like this... Which would've been awesome. But, hey, it is what it is. I like Travis a lot, but Scott was a better fit in my opinion.
I agree totally with you, TRAVIS IS A FUCKING SHIT commercialism!
dude youre the only one i found on here that totally agrees with me. scott had huge potential. travis is good too but its over casting scotts ability. it took scotts effort to get them to enema. nobody remembers that
joaquin monserrat You know nothing.
You do not know what is the real punk.
Oh bore off, what an ignorant statement. Blink were hardly a punk band anyway! Most punk drummers lack individualism and just play the same beat super quick over and over. Travis offers way more than that.
Rebirth twinkles summer night replays "back to the start". Tears to rebirth.✨🎸
More of a 'skate punk' sound with Scott, which I prefer. Probably wouldn't have been as big as they got if he stayed tho.
Yeah this is my take as well. This version sounds earnest and rough, particularly without the triple tracked vocals that are in Enema. It feels more direct in a way that I like but doesn’t play well on radio.
Love how Scott’s drumming makes this song kind of float along. There’s a fun sense of momentum in this version because of it.
This version is more punk than cd version
so many memories!
This is the stuff that keeps the darkness at bay whether you’re twelve or thirty five
If Mutt released in Dude Ranch :
The guitar is much more aggressive here. He was still playing LPs, I bet.
Yes, his black Les Paul.
Classic Black Les Paul with the DiMarzio X2N pickups for that dirty sound
Oooo yummy
@@oraciogarcialeonjr.2802 No X2N on this song. Stock LP pickups
And there’s more Palm-muted down picking in some of the verses too, giving it a crunchier tone.
Love this. Sounds straight off of Dude Ranch
amazing man!!!
This recording is proof that Blink could write EOTS without Travis. Mutt is one of blinks best tracks right up there with every other song they write.
Travis is better, but Scott is more punk
Travis is Punk....
Emiliano Dean Scott is more punk sounding and raw, Travis is an extremely technical drummer.
@@Anewbreed you're saying that, because Travis also plays Hip-Hop...
They're saying its has more of Punk feel with scott. Which is true!
Not who looks more punk..
B r u h
I love them both,
Cracking, thanks for the Blink history lesson too.
This is the only version I listen to
Listen to this and their new single and tell me what's better. They need to jam like this man
Love this 😘
Saw the original tape recording of this in the studio where this was recorded the other day, super cool
Wow... Just learned what "punk" is... thanks fam. Love Scott and Travis... Both were great back in the day.
Hey guys I have an idea! Because next year is the 20 year anniversary of Cheshire Cat, Blink should play through the whole album. Not only that, but they should bring in Scott! The crowd would go nuts once they see him up there on that stage!
That would pretty awesome. But only bring in Scott for maybe a few songs. Or just not at all
Nick Hymel Can you imagine Tom trying to sing Cheshire cat songs now though, haha
Haha OMG ikr
Sorry man, but i think this is impossible.. scott is out, i think it would be disgusting for mark and tom been playing with scott again
Nahuu Barrios Tom isn't part of blink anymore.
I have always preferred the way Scott played the drums in Blink records, especially on Dude Ranch.
Actually I like this version more, I listen to both but this sounds better for me
DaɴɪeʟsZaɴᴅʙeʀɢs Same here.
That's a very cool version. I wonder what "Enema Of The State" would sound like if they kept Raynor on drums.
scott is something.much better for blink than Travis, their original skate punk sound was my favorite
I believe their original stuff would have not taken them this far as of today with out Travis.
Although, I do believe their stuff was good for its era.
EXACTLY. Only true blink fans that have been around since day one agree. But that’s exactly how I feel too my man
@@LozanoMotoRacing it only wouldnt have got them far since the genre died off. When they decided to go pop punk thats when it was extremely popular
ThatXoneXguy disagree man, when Blink released Enema in ‘99 they were at the forefront of pop punk. I know there were some bands around like Lit and others at the time that we’re heading in that direction but, Blink was the band that made pop punk popular. I don’t believe they went with that sound because it was popular bands like Lit for example that had had success with a poppier sound still weren’t have near the success Blink had.
It’s really funny getting notifications for comments I made 4 years ago, I can’t even tell ya the last time I listened to blink, it’s just been a lot of straight edge hardcore 😬
Wow really cool! I like this version! they sound so much more punk here
My favorite Blink 182 song for life.
Yeah, this version is way better than the album ver
OK BUT HEARING TOM'S TRANSITION VOICE BETWEEN HIS RAW DUDE RANCH VOICE AND HIS WHINY ENEMA VOICE??????
Wow never heard this. Made my day.
Wow!
Scott will always be the Blink 182 drummer for me. Travis is a much better drummer than he is, but Scott fits better with the original sound (the only music of theirs with staying power).
after hearing the demo this definitely sounds like a song that would've been better suited for dude ranch than enema
Totally agree with you!
Def much more raw than the final version. Although Scott's drumming is just fine, Travis put the cherry on top with his fills, and along with Jerry Finn helped round out blink into the form and direction that brought them stardom. That's not taking anything away from Scott, in fact its hard to imagine either Cheshire or Dude Ranch with Travis on the kit instead, its just that with Scott (and minus Finn) I feel that blink would have remained on the same level as an Unwritten Law, Lagwagon, Goldfinger, etc. and there also would have been nothing wrong with that if it had played out that way.
This is proof that overplaying can completely change a song, as a drummer I always say play what’s right for the song and I really love this punk roots version better! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I love it! It’s got the dude ranch feel to it!
This is awesome
Blink with Scott was the best punk band ever. Better musicians don't always make a better band.
I AGREE! YES!
I disagree wholeheartedly.
@@Emacula93 I agree wholeheartedly
Better musicians always make a better band lol
Yes good point is I liked Nirvana debut Bleach which there drummer was Chad Channing which thought was better than follow up Nevermind which had Dave Grohl Dave is an amazing drummer but wasn't in my opinion better than Bleach. Same with Blink there early years with Scott was more rawer & less commercial not denying Travis isn't an amazing drummer like Dave Grohl because he his. But like Nirvana debut Bleach which had Chad Channing drumming the same is said for Blink when they had Scott Flyswatter, Buddha, Chesire Cat & Dude Ranch where amazing and lot rawer less commercial than there later stuff just my opinion though.
Not saying you can ever have good sound be commercial course you can but depends for you want to go with being commercial and playing to the majors.
I love how it sounds so much more punk with Scott. I love Travis and he's a great drummer, but Blink 182 was far more punk with Scott as their drummer
great job scottiiiiiiiiiii
this is SOOOO awesome. damn i was in middle when this came out.
Would of loved him on one more album
Loved his style
Travis is a better drummer
Scott was a punk drummer
Scott was a Hard rock/Heavy metal drummer. Both of them played in Punk bands but Scott made Blink raw and Dirty.
Travis was also 3 years older and more experienced
This version makes this one of my favorite Blink songs. It had their old sound along with their tightened sound. Shouldve been on Dude Ranch 100%
love it
This is the best demo out there
I think for certain songs, Scotts tempo is better, I like Scotts version of Carousel best
Better then the normal one
beautiful version
I love their different styles
Am I the only one who realizes they’ve had two drummers named Travis and Scott sicko mode confirmed in 1996
Leave.
How bout no
Fin Brook It’s funny leave him alone
Shit I just noticed that
Scott Travis from Racer X and Judas Priest.
If Enema was produced by Mark Trombino it would've been totally different and probably way more like Dude Ranch, which would've been amazing. Travis did change the sound a lot too because he wasn't into playing typical punk rhythms. He likes to be flashy and it totally changed the feel of their songs. Watching Travis play fast punk beats actually is funny, he looks so damn tense. Scott looked way more natural playing fast and seemed to hit way harder too. Blink really did peak at Dude Ranch, which is sad.
yes!
What a great version.
The drum and guitar part around 3:01 and then until the end of the song I think sounds way better than the version with Travis as drummer.
I'm crying. They could have been so good
Crying? Really?
Crying? They were good.
Blink wouldn't be what they are today without Travis. Scott's a great solid drummer, but Travis entering the band literally brought them to new heights.
Cool 😎
My man! Legend!
I bought this soundtrack back in the day just for this track. Scott had such a heavy, hard hitting style on the drums. I prefer the simplicity of him hitting the hell out of his drums over the flourishes and fills that Travis adds. Different era.
Travis will never play songs like Josie as Scott did on his better days.
@Andrew Marez Scott went solely Single kick around dude ranch era; and Travis can play fast too, but definitely not the same nor surpasses the way Scott does it.
And the reason Lars tends to overplay is that he has to play a lot of the same songs almost every night since Metallica is huge and tours constantly on 1.5+ hour shows, so I don’t blame him for changing it up every now and then.
Travis on the other hand, yeah, that’s just his style; he likes to shred on the drums to be entertaining, but I think him switching up the beat up a lot is to make up for not being able to stay in a consistent beat on some of the faster songs while trying to hit them as hard as he can.
Scott was just thunderous on the drums while Travis just likes to flex his technical playing.