Update: thankfully most of the language referencing UltraHDMI has been removed from their Kickstarter. Also sorry about the bad mic quality in this video. I had problems w/ my lapel mic on my shirt & I didn’t want to re-record the whole video. DOH!
@-0melette- OK so it appears to be a *real* game in the sense that it's a game that exists but it's a fanmade mod of Mario 64. It actually looks pretty neat though. I wanna take this opportunity to say that I think they did Waluigi a serious disservice by giving him that name. It firmly cements him as just "evil Luigi" instead of as his own separate character which probably had a lot to do with him not taking off as a beloved member of the Mario cast of characters until recently. (I know a lot of people only "like" him in the "meme" sense but I know there's a lot of people like me who always latch into obscure, underdog characters also). Maybe in Japan it makes sense to them culturally to name the character what pretty well translates to "bad Luigi" but in the western world it really doesn't play that well. At least Wario sounds like a name. Waluigi has always looked like a "Vinny" to me. It's a stereotypical Italian-American name so it fits. He would get to have a "V" as his logo instead of that dumb ass shit that looks like a "7". There. I said my piece about it and I feel a little bit better.
@-0melette- I did not realize that he was created by a third party developer! I'm gonna go check into that. I can't imagine, though, why you wouldn't want to at least set things up to where you could capitalize on the possible popularity of any character in a franchise like Super Mario. Nintendo would have had the final say on any element of the game, especially with the tight grip they keep on their IPs. However, they just basically went, "yeah eff it whatever" when it came to Waluigi. Then again, I was a huge fan of Super Princess Peach on the DS so I guess that's just a thing I do. 🤷♂️
@@Copeydude101 Just make a new account and find somebody else's name to put on it to distance yourself. That's what they could do. TBH they did send out review units, which makes me think either they genuinely didn't know about the lower quality, or they're just willing to ignore it. Anyway, if something comes around again they're going to have to have a prototype with side-by-side comparisons.
@@MetalJesusRocks help my friend please I have been a fan for years love the videos and content heres my issue I want to get a better out put to my 4k 75 inch tv with my original OG Xbox what do I get and where to buy also 1 for my playstation 2 and wii as well mabye send me some links or a list of Easy to do mabye just a upscale cord best to worst and also a video about those consoles and older consoles being hooked to the fancy TVs of today thank you metaljesus ill be waiting your answers :-)
@@techx154 thanks secretary of state 🤣 dont you think this was already done on my end and just wanted some info from another source and that source is MetalJesusRocks not techx154 good day sir
Yeah they hit me and some others up too way before the kickstarter and said the whole UltraHDMI pitch. Was super interested cuz I dont have one. Then they kinda disappeared and the kickstarter popped up and I was like that's weird. Sucks it ended up like this because I was somewhat interested in snagging one.
@@rap6439 Yep, that isn't too good to be true. It is a reality, and the quality is good... its just horrifically expensive compared to other solutions. If all someone is looking to do is upscale their existing N64, there are options like the OSSC or the RetroTink2X which are very fine little to no lag solutions. Even getting the N64 RGB modded, then run through either of those upscaling/line doubling solutions is still probably cheaper than what I've seen these HDMI mods go for... $450 is a large chunk of money. I think I paid $75 for the RGB mod for my N64. Then I was able to use either the HDRetrovision cable for Component Which I think was $35 or the RGB Scart cable which I think was about the same. Lotta options out there, just takes time to figure out which solution fits your expectations and budget. :)
@ApemanMonkey People are more welcome to compare/use the UltraHDMI as a standard for quality when it comes to N64 HDMI mods, but that kit isn't a viable option imo, simply because it hasn't been available for sale over a year now (go look at the last posted update/info about it), and there's not even a pre-order date set so we can have an idea as to when it might be available again for sale. The point is, make/use comparisons for things that are readily available right now for purchase, not what might be available in the future.
@Marc Carran You know Guru Larry and 'DJ' Slope/Daniel Ibbertson are different people - and channels, yeah? Not everyone with a British accent is the same person ya racist!* lol *sarcasm
@@theconfusingwords It's mainly the smaller size of the retro gaming community compared to some others. Retro gaming is more niche than most people who watch videos about it would think. I'm the only person among my gaming friends who has more than a passing interest in retro stuff. Most people play games and move on and the nostalgia is more of a passing moment ("Oh yeah I remember that, that was fun back int he day") vs something they buy products for. The under 1 mil sub count is not really a reflection on MetalJesus, his stuff is great, there's just a more limited audience for it than other topics.
So getting an original NTSC N64 board that has been RGB/HDMI modded for you, that has been refurbished/recapped and tested, along with a new outer case, two new controllers, all the cables needed to easily hook it up to an HDTV, and to have all that shipped to your front door for only $150, is "just not worth what they are asking" in your opinion?
@@CoroaEntertainment Or you could just get a $30 Hyperkin cable, hook it up to your original N64, and have the same experience. According to MetalJesus, at least.
@@fuinharlz The controller itself at least has been sold by Hori for years now. So a $25 controller + $25 Hyperkin HDMI cable will get you the same experience as this $95 product.
As much as N64s go for these days alone this isnt a bad deal for someone who dont have one at all. You could spend $100 and get a dud of a system so this dont seem so bad for a starter.
@@MetalJesusRocks Can we have a video on emulators on android. Theres n65, and now GC emulation. Also the Over Drive N64 all in one game pak. Ive always been interested in this topic. I hear they are working on xbox 1 emulation. Thanks.
@Sendit Sunday LOL! No, that would be the "CoroaEntertainment" guy you see flooding all the Warrior 64 comments sections with incorrect info and objectively bad takes. I'm combing the same threads since I'm invested in UltraHDMI and want to counter the misinformation. Only corrected this unrelated tid-bit so to eliminate future confusion. I know I would appreciate it if I were missusing it the same way. ;)
@Sendit SundayUltraHDMI... the N64 video upgrade kit that this Warrior 64 thing purported to compare itself to. I've literally installed several hundred, if not over 1,000 of them, and I don't want the people in the group buy to get the wrong impression about how they compare. It would be a disaster for them if they pulled out in anticipation of this Warrior 64 thing only to find out that they wasted their money and it's literally worse than getting a traditional RGB mod with one of those $15 SCART2HDMI adapters.
@@emmettturner9452 The earliest known citations for going rogue all dealt with elephants-appropriately enough for an expression that is now frequently used in reference to the Republican Party (often symbolized by an elephant). “Itu gajah dya jehat! (That elephant’s going rogue)” remarked the head axeman, shaking his head. (Boys’ Life, January, 1924)
Didn't Jesus say he told them it wasn't good... And they said they developing another product anyway. So basically just they will do another kickstarter.
I loved my N64 more than any other console (I'm afraid it died a couple of years ago), but if I go back to the 90s I have a worse house, but then again a lot more hair! I'm conflicted.
@referral madness Ha ha! Fully bald nowadays. When I was 18 I had longer hair than Metal Jesus! Mind you, it took a lot of effort to maintain. Now I just shave the lot.
Very refreshing to see a review that isn't positive. Many leave positive reviews because an item/game was sent for free to review. Thanks for Keeping it real MJR.
Even CRT's can't make it look that great unfortunately, like s-video looks tolerable but that's it. Even some of the basic mods like RGB don't do much because it blurs the shit out of everything on a hardware level.
I'm an artist who worked on N64 games, and they were made to look good on CRT. I use CRTs (PVM and consumer level) for playing all the old school stuff. I can see the appeal for most people these days to use HD TVs and all that, but if you want to see the games the way we intended for them to be seen, it's CRT all the way.
@@jakfearon2945 I agree they do look good on CTR tvs also thats cool you did art in that generation im sure it was hard since it was the beginning of 3d
I RGB'd mine going through a RGC scart cable to a Gscart multi, then a Shinybow component converter before ending at my glorious Sony KV36FV310. 300lb monster SD CRT. How it was meant to be played! :)
This is why I love you as a UA-camr. You’re such an honest reviewer. This product could have been great, but they definitely blew it. I appreciate you doing this video.
I don't think it's a full scam, the shell looks cool IMO and the controller could be a good Hori Pad replacement(Just buy a Brawler64). That being said, the mod is obviously some cheap hack instead of a proper mod, and the wording is pretty shady about the quality.
@@SuperAndrew64 are you invested in warrior 64 or something? You seem to be replying to everyone’s criticism of this awful product with some anger. That’s ok, some people like terrible things.
@@Aenima308 in fact, i did back the warrior 64 and I can confirm it is a piece of junk. i am sending mine back. it seemed like a good affordable solution to an hdmi n64 but I have actually experienced it myself so now my opinion has changed
Thanks for this! I've been watching the kickstarter and hoping a retro reviewer (you specifically) would get their hands on it to confirm some of the speculation going around about it. You're the best, Metal Jesus!!
@@chriseaton2730 He isn't shilling though, he's just saying it's a bit odd you choose to complain about the box over the disappointing product inside. . .
I had a bad feeling from the start looking at this project. You could tell their knowledge wasn't enough by just reading the description on their Kickstarter.
Same here, though I got a RetroTink & a good inverter for my Semi. Along with a busted PS2&Wii for "backups." Looks like shit, but there's no input lag... Can't really take a CRT with me though.
I've gotten some amazing shit off of Kickstarter. Just be choosy about what you back and pick stuff that isn't promising the world and you will be fine.
This sounds more like a tragedy. I feel kinda bad for these guys if they really didn't realize....and I could totally see that. Imagine spending years of your life on a project, and you actually deliver it....nice box, presentation, material quality and all.....just to find out you missed a critical point..... Not only does that part of your life feel wasted, but the income you were really counting on is just gone.
I remember when I was younger playing Wave Race for the 1st time thinking "OMG this is beautiful and it looks so real!" lol The water looked great for the time.
do you guys not remember intec gaming solutions let me explain the last product intec produced for a long time was a portable monitor for the original xbox and even that monitor failed because they had tons of them with flickering issues and unable to do dvd playback from the original xbox
Can we just admit that it's a bit weird to hunt for the perfect output signal, when Project64 will easily give you 4K resolution? I mean, having passion for real hardware is one thing, but this isn't even original hardware.
"but this isn't even original hardware" @ Username I don't know what game console you were looking at, but the Warrior 64 uses an original Nintendo N64 motherboard (inside that new clear case) that has been modded with an RGB/HDMI kit.
@@CoroaEntertainment No offense, but it's like you're ignoring my point to be a smartass. Of course it's the original hardware inside - but the important bit, the presentation, the reason to use original hardware because of that special nostalgic tug, is gone. Noone cares about a Nintendo 64 built into an xbox one case, even if it contains original hardware.
Where's all the assholes saying he's bought out with the polymega review because they gave him a review unit? Ooooh, oh that's right. He gets item. He reviews item. And he speaks his mind, regardless of it being good or bad. Why anyone doubted him is beyond me.
It may not be what you were expecting in terms of video quality, but from what I see, it looks like a viable solution for people who no longer have a working N64 console to use. And it doesn't require finding an old T.V. to use. In that sense, I could definitely see the pre-built unit being worthwhile. I myself, could use another controller. I may look into whether or not those are available for purchase separately.
Do I even know what the Warrior 64 is? No. Am I gonna support this super cool channel by watching this video and finding out what this is? Yep. Metal Jesus Rocks 🤘
are you lonely right now? (Yes) Are you trying to pretend to look down on me to feel better about yourself?(yes) Anyone who uses the term beta and alpha aint getting any 🐱 (sorry!) I'm not offended at all, but nobody who watches a 1hr compilation about how to be an alpha male is gonna come at me sideways. This guy is fuck!n cool. Down to earth honest reviews and here are you: probably some neckbeard upset that his favorite anime isn't releasing a new episode yet. (But dont get your katana yet) I'm only making fun of how pathetic you are as an internet troll. Internet trolls were such a different breed so you must be a child, if so are you upset your crush has someone better (way better) than you in mind? Sucks to be you. That is the only reason why any random dude on UA-cam is in the comment section starting fights. Now go back to your alpha male videos, cause I'm sure dragging some random dude on the internet is guranteed that you aren't happy. Metal Jesus Rocks (oh and I have been watching him eversince)
Thanks metal jesus. I don't have the money for an ultra HDMI mod, but i was contemplating getting this or an Ion Super 64 and an Mclassic combo. I decided on the 2nd option.
It seems like these were people with technical knowledge but jumping into a market they didn't understand. They saw that ultraHDMI was hard to come by and expensive and figured they could offer a cheaper alternative. Problem was they didn't understand that ultraHDMI wasn't just about adding an HDMI port but also about offering a high quality signal.
I've seen a few of Metal Jesus' videos but never subscribed. Then I saw this one and I mashed that subscribe button. Your honesty is what did it for me. Thanks man.
Based on the Waverace footage I thought it looked slightly better than the hdmi cable and the retrotink but not nearly as good as the ultra. Doesn't really matter since the N64 is a garbage system though.
@@Gabriel-vj1cf Completely useless* Whatever else it had was either a port of a PC fps, shitty collectathons or games that were also on PlayStation. Pair that with the need for extra RAM (sold separately*), awful controller design, a separate peripheral if you wanted rumble.
Warrior 64 is objectively worse with detail being lost in the blown-out colors (look at the floorboard of the red JetSki). UltraHDMI has adjustable Gamma.
Sounds like a bad deal. The Console I want to have an HDMI Mod is Playstation 2. I know you can play PS2 games on PS3, but not every PS3 Console will play PS2 Discs!
@@lordeilluminati i 100% agree. my 60gb ps3 has disc drive issues all the time, ive taken it apart multiple times to clean it and it works better for like a day and goes back to fighting me with releasing the disc. i would love a mod for the ps2 that displayed games in HD just like the ps3 without having to pay $300+ for cables and boxes to do it.
Don't the early model PS3's literally have the hardware of the PS2 built in? I know the later revisions don't and use software emulation but if you can get your hands on the launch models there is no reason every PS2 game shouldn't function.
8:48 are you crazy the warrior is miles sharper lines, look to the laft of each picture- the red roof and stuff, the left picture is jaged and right picture is alot straighter and smother
As I was watching this, I was thinking about why people love the N64 so much, and I thought of blast corps. Definitely one of the better games on the console. The list of must haves is pretty short IMO.
Thanks for giving an honest take. Kickstarter has already been compromised on quality and it was only a matter of time before more garbage than legit products became available.
Curious now that a few years has gone by, has the warrior 64 team ever reached out to you about their supposed ultra hdmi solution? I bet the supporters were pissed when they received these things. Thanks for the heads up though man. Appreciate it.
Crack open your Hyperkin cable and compare the main IC.... Probably uses the exact same converter chip. Same chip as Pound cables too. Same chip as most HDMI boxes.
The circuits look a lot more complex than that on the Warrior 64. While one board plugs into the video output, an other one plugs directly onto the MAV-NUS chip which is responsible for digital-analog conversion and thus has direct RGB instead of crappy composite signal that the video output receives. The Warrior 64 probably just lacks upscaling but actually has proper colors and a good signal. It's just a 480p signal.
@@msklywenn The one connected to the MAV-NUS in their installation video is one of three adapter boards meant to deal with the different video DAC/Encoder sizes and pinouts: One for VDC-NUS (early NTSC video DAC/Encoder with analog RGB output) One for DENC-NUS (PAL video DAC/Encoder) One for AVDC-NUS (audio DAC and video DAC/Encoder). The adapter boards literally just adapt the ribbon connector for each version of the video DAC chip and doesn't do anything other than make a connection, so it isn't really what you need to be looking at... though you might want to note that only AVDC/MAV-NUS have digital audio so it will have to get audio from elsewhere. The board on the AV Multi-out is the CPLD digital to analog RGB mod with a resistor ladder DAC as Tim Worthington designed it way back in 2007. The adapter board from the digital side of the N64's video DAC connects to the top side, giving it the digital signal it needs to make analog RGB. Unfortunately, it only connects to Audio, Power, and Ground on the AV Multi-out, so it will not restore analog RGB despite what their Kickstarter video said about "the back" having RGB and HDMI. Audio goes right out the side connector to their HDMI board. Analog RGBS video from the resistor ladder also goes through this connector to the HDMI board. Hopefully you can see where this is going... YEP. The HDMI board is another one of those crappy chips that you see in all the generic SCART2HDMI, AV2HDMI, YPbPr2HDMI, etc boxes that you can get for $15. That's also the same garbage they put inside Pound, LevelHike, Hyperkin, etc HDMI cables before marking them up $15 or more while pretending that they were made specifically for those consoles. Here:s the thing: they were made to handle analog inputs for a digital TV. They were made to send the scaled output to the digital display at its native resolutin, but they take that signal and run it back through an HDMI transmitter instead. This results in double-scaling, increased latency, and worse: NONE of these off-the-shelf analog input chips properly handle 240p, which is the native resolution of most consoles before the Dreamcast. Therefore, it is a scam to charge $10-15 extra while acting like it is designed specifically for a console where it doesn't even properly support that console's native resolution. Not supporting 240p means treating it like 480i, which means deinterlacing non-interlaced video. That means adding latency, blurring motion, and ruining 60hz flashing effects like simulated transparency. Stay FAR away from this garbage. If they truly wanted to tailor it for the N64 then they would have included Peter Bartmann or Tim Worthington's N64 YPbPr output and then incorporated the line doubler used on RetroTink 2X, RAD2X, Super64, Wii2HDMI, etc. Obviously, they aren't those kinds of engineers. They are the "take a thing and stick it into another thing" kind of engineers using the same $15 scalers they been scamming everyone with for $30.
@@msklywenn Warrior 64 incompetently scales it to 720p. What should be a simple 3x240p line multiplier, instead, gets processed as 480i, then 480i gets scaled to 720p. The issue with a Line 3X multiplier is that the timing will not be 60hz like most TVs expect and often will not work, but 480p will, so Line 2X is the way to go. Even TVs that improperly scale 240p will scale 480p to their native resolution just fine.
The video wasn't clickbait. The summary was in the title. We still watched it. I wish youtube could learn from all of these people watching completely forthright videos.
Yeah that was my first thought when he said they're using real motherboards...N64's are gonna be few and far between if this kind of thing really takes off.
@@GlassMaster_Jae yeah but at least they can likely be salvaged; unlike the untold numbers of New In Box controllers destroyed by speedrunning rage. Near impossible to get a N64 or Gamecube controller in decent original shape thanks to them and Smash players.. and all the new 3rd party controllers made for those consoles use those godawful copied mechanisms of Xbox360/PS3 analogue sticks.
You know what you never did? Use a mini hdmi adapter to HDMI on your Ultra HDMI and connect with the mClassic I'm very curious to see how it would be the output of that
@@emmettturner9452 Simple, because not everybody likes the same things. If you like the clear pixels to have that serrated edge cool but there's also people who like as smooth as possible. It's just preference.
@@emmettturner9452 I am sticking with that thanks. But about defeating purposes?? Maybe it defeats what you have as standard for yourself but remember what I said tastes differ and you don't have to jump on a bandwagon just because someone said this or that is better. Just use the way you like it.
@@wagnerapinheiro I'm not talking about "taste." I'm saying that it is objectively superior if the goal is higher quality signal. You can measure it on an oscilloscope. Science. Objectivity. Facts. ;) If you don't like pixels then you can do whatever post-processing you want but, even then, it is objectively better to start with a pixel-perfect image even if you want to process it and hide the pixels. The problem with mClassic is that it would only work right if it supported the N64's native 240p resolution but the UltraHDMI doesn't even support outputting that (always line-doubled). Instead, it sees a source pixel after it is scaled with at least four times as many pixels so it can only presume that the square shape is intentional detail, which is why their mCable works so much better on higher-resolution modern console games.
Will you be doing a review soon on the Retrotink 2x mini? I’m thinking of getting it as a drop in replacement for my old dvdo iscan pro , and I’d love to hear your thoughts on their newest product.
Just like most AV to HDMI solutions, the lag is actually minimal but the picture is too dark. Must be related to resistance in the cable? Looks the same as my £10 AV-HDMI box off Amazon
Thanks for the heads-up. Honestly the difference in shading doesn't make too much difference to me since I can just alter colors on the TV if the shade/tint really does start to bother me so -I'll probably buy it anyway, but it IS nice to know exactly what I'm getting regardless. If graphic pallet being a bit off is the only issue and everything else runs fine (which I'm assuming is the case since you made NO mention of sound quality or graphic stuttering or glitching or game compatibility at all and only focused on the colors) then I'll still get it- --- edit --- Went to their website for more info. Apparently they've been having a LOT of problems with the machines. You apparently got one of the better ones from what I've read. Some of their info hasn't been updated in awhile and other parts don't really make sense. This might have been an elaborate scam rather than an actual kickstarter project. I could be wrong but that's the vibes I'm getting. Even if that's not the case China ain't looking too good right now. Floods, unemployment through the roof, buildings and bridges collapsing...this might go under even if the intentions behind it are legit. Last update was a little over 2 years ago.
Well that sucks! This could have been a great solution for some people to get that ultra hdmi quality the company was shouting about but it looks like was bogus all along. I appreciate your honesty MJR.
I, personally, don't like the look of the warrior 64 case. The transparent green isn't bad but it looks a lot like a Cyber Truck. I'd probably like it if they took more of a "Low poly N64" approach. Also, it kinda sucks the the video out quality is on par with a Hyperkin cable. Just some of my thoughts.
I mostly dislike aftermarket consoles just because of the casing (for example, I think the Analogue consoles nail in features but hate the product casing). I know that they do this to avoid copyright infringement, but still...
@@CoroaEntertainment The mod I did it myself. It's a Tim Worthington RGB mod that cost me about € 50. The Framemeister cost me about € 400 more or less plus customs. It is expensive because I use it with 14 consoles so for me it is worth it considering the image quality. So lately Sun connected the N64 RGB modded to a CRT. Of all the consoles that exist, the N64 is the one that benefits the most from a CRT.
Get an RGB mod with VI deblur like Tim Worthington's board. Then use an OSSC or a SNES component cable. Just as good (or better with an ossc) plus you can use it with professional monitors
@@CoroaEntertainment my rhetorical answer would be less than an ultrahdmi if you are paying for install. The mod is more reversible too which is important to some, and it’s all much more readily available.
Well Jason, it looks like you're off their Christmas card list but you did a good job on the honest review, you've just saved a few people some of their hard earned cash!
Definitely not the same company. Different logo, different name. Why would a giant Chinese manufacturer start a Kickstarter for another gaming accessory?
They should honestly just be selling the shell and nothing else. The crappy LevelHike HDMI solution isn't worth a single penny much less what they are trying to charge for it. They knew exactly what they were doing. They knew most consumers wouldn't know the difference between a quality HDMI solution and a crappy one.
oooooooooooooooor. You get a usb adapter, plug it into your pc and rock that goldeneye with fixed textures, or mods that are INCREDIBLE. Metal Jesus, have you tried any of those? The super mario mod forexample so much fun!!!
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Update: thankfully most of the language referencing UltraHDMI has been removed from their Kickstarter. Also sorry about the bad mic quality in this video. I had problems w/ my lapel mic on my shirt & I didn’t want to re-record the whole video. DOH!
12 minute TRASH video. Just say it's awful and a scam and DONE. dont circlejerk around, that's so cancer
Audio was totaly fine, not as crisp as it usually is of course, but you can clearely hear all you say without any trouble. :)
Just say it garbage lol basically it is your being honest
That's cuz when you attach a lapel mic to a Priest shirt you have to do your vocals two octaves higher, Halford style.
@@slyceth if that's all you wanted then why did u even click it, the title said exactly that
Honest reviewers are a dying breed. Love the review bud
angry joe is pretty honest in my opinion
No they're not.
Agreed! It's nice to see some real honesty. One of the reasons why this channel is so great.👍✌️
@@1critical.truther too many “this is my new favorite thing types” Honest Reviews are always better and this channel accels at them.
@@kentown8115 Nah he lies when playing sponsored games. But I would've done it too.
Misread the title as "Wario 64" and expected a game that doesn't exist.
Κι εγω ετσι χαχα
I would definitely be interested in Wario 64 and would at least give a look to Waluigi's Taco Stand
@-0melette- I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit and then I'm going to look it up. I'll update.
@-0melette- OK so it appears to be a *real* game in the sense that it's a game that exists but it's a fanmade mod of Mario 64. It actually looks pretty neat though.
I wanna take this opportunity to say that I think they did Waluigi a serious disservice by giving him that name. It firmly cements him as just "evil Luigi" instead of as his own separate character which probably had a lot to do with him not taking off as a beloved member of the Mario cast of characters until recently. (I know a lot of people only "like" him in the "meme" sense but I know there's a lot of people like me who always latch into obscure, underdog characters also).
Maybe in Japan it makes sense to them culturally to name the character what pretty well translates to "bad Luigi" but in the western world it really doesn't play that well. At least Wario sounds like a name. Waluigi has always looked like a "Vinny" to me. It's a stereotypical Italian-American name so it fits. He would get to have a "V" as his logo instead of that dumb ass shit that looks like a "7".
There. I said my piece about it and I feel a little bit better.
@-0melette- I did not realize that he was created by a third party developer! I'm gonna go check into that.
I can't imagine, though, why you wouldn't want to at least set things up to where you could capitalize on the possible popularity of any character in a franchise like Super Mario. Nintendo would have had the final say on any element of the game, especially with the tight grip they keep on their IPs. However, they just basically went, "yeah eff it whatever" when it came to Waluigi.
Then again, I was a huge fan of Super Princess Peach on the DS so I guess that's just a thing I do. 🤷♂️
This is absolutely why I respect Metal Jesus. He is always open and honest when it comes to anything and everything he reviews.
As how everything should be
What if he reviews his wife or mom? Would he say not worth the money dont buy?
@@frostedlambs depends on the how good they truly are
Exactly, he's not some lying shill.
LOL they're going to do a second run to live up to the first one? GOOD LUCK
phew! i almost bought into this on kickstarter........but yeah wtf why not just open up and improve the first ones instead deliver on their promises
@stirange but the first one as weve established from the video wont deliver so who in their right mind would back them again?
We fucked up the first release... how about another?
I love your videos.
@@Copeydude101 Just make a new account and find somebody else's name to put on it to distance yourself. That's what they could do. TBH they did send out review units, which makes me think either they genuinely didn't know about the lower quality, or they're just willing to ignore it. Anyway, if something comes around again they're going to have to have a prototype with side-by-side comparisons.
Thank you for the unbiased review!
Glad it was helpful!
@@MetalJesusRocks help my friend please I have been a fan for years love the videos and content heres my issue I want to get a better out put to my 4k 75 inch tv with my original OG Xbox what do I get and where to buy also 1 for my playstation 2 and wii as well mabye send me some links or a list of Easy to do mabye just a upscale cord best to worst and also a video about those consoles and older consoles being hooked to the fancy TVs of today thank you metaljesus ill be waiting your answers :-)
@@gnagarysteventon If Metal Jesus had to do research for every body asking him for something, he would never get anything done. Google is your friend.
@@techx154 thanks secretary of state 🤣 dont you think this was already done on my end and just wanted some info from another source and that source is MetalJesusRocks not techx154 good day sir
@@gnagarysteventon You're welcome, but I'm not Hillary Clinton. She sucks.
“Oohh. Don't worry! After everyone buys these up, we'll make an even BETTER version LATER. That's how good commerce works!"
*Drawn-out fart noise*
Apple and Android do this with their phones every year. Countless other companies around the world also do the same thing with their products.
The noise you’re talking about, me and my friends always type as PFFFFFFFFT! Lol
No that’s how Oculus works for sure. I hate their business practices
@@CoroaEntertainment No they don't say their upcoming phone is 5g and then send a 3g phone to youtubers for review.
You're on to something here.
Yeah they hit me and some others up too way before the kickstarter and said the whole UltraHDMI pitch. Was super interested cuz I dont have one. Then they kinda disappeared and the kickstarter popped up and I was like that's weird. Sucks it ended up like this because I was somewhat interested in snagging one.
Oh my god its Stevie Richards!
Got that pro controller yet?
@@christopherbee8635 yessir
This is why I love all you content creators you have saved me from buying things that seem nice but are shit! lol
@@TheNightCamera Me too! That was his trademark!
Feel sorry for all the N64's that are going to be cannibalized for this.
Yeah that's bullshit and affront to the community. Where are these tossed shells going?
Lol cannibalized
they're probably reclaimed ewaste anyway. The 64 is way more common in some markets.
@@flandrble You need a working one to do this.
@@PanjaRoseGold very little to go wrong inside a N64, it's mainly the PSU that dies from old age. So it either goes to ewaste or auctioned as junk.
basically they are ruining perfectly fine Nintendo 64 consoles to make this abomination... even the shell looks tacky
unless you buy a system with a shattered shell, also the shell looks like it could hold a fan
@Moxie Allen Same, I think it looks cool, but the hdmi mod is def. not worth it
I guess if you're going to create a market you have to destroy the old market.
What a shitty company.
They are just doing what everyone else is. Cashing in on a trend...
And there's probably still a lot less N64 units floating around than NES and SNES...
When something is too good to be true, its because it is.
@@rap6439 Yep, that isn't too good to be true. It is a reality, and the quality is good... its just horrifically expensive compared to other solutions. If all someone is looking to do is upscale their existing N64, there are options like the OSSC or the RetroTink2X which are very fine little to no lag solutions.
Even getting the N64 RGB modded, then run through either of those upscaling/line doubling solutions is still probably cheaper than what I've seen these HDMI mods go for... $450 is a large chunk of money.
I think I paid $75 for the RGB mod for my N64. Then I was able to use either the HDRetrovision cable for Component Which I think was $35 or the RGB Scart cable which I think was about the same.
Lotta options out there, just takes time to figure out which solution fits your expectations and budget. :)
@@rap6439 the price of the UltraHDMI makes that it is not 'too good to be true', it's more like 'as good as it should be for that price'.
@PabstOban @RAP64
@ApemanMonkey People are more welcome to compare/use the UltraHDMI as a standard for quality when it comes to N64 HDMI mods, but that kit isn't a viable option imo, simply because it hasn't been available for sale over a year now (go look at the last posted update/info about it), and there's not even a pre-order date set so we can have an idea as to when it might be available again for sale. The point is, make/use comparisons for things that are readily available right now for purchase, not what might be available in the future.
Rumor is it was a flop based on price and isn’t coming back.
@@CoroaEntertainment you know it was the people making the Warrior 64 who themselves said it was like the UltraHDMI, right?
Fair play for getting this out so early!
Thank you for the honest feedback.
Heeyy daniel ibbertson
Kickscammers: Warrior 64
@Marc Carran You know Guru Larry and 'DJ' Slope/Daniel Ibbertson are different people - and channels, yeah? Not everyone with a British accent is the same person ya racist!* lol
*sarcasm
Coming Soon.. 😀
Metaljesusrocks has been around earth for a very longtime. This channel deserves a million subs
LOL Thanks! And yes, I'm as old as dirt 😂
Wait a second, I just noticed he doesn’t have a million and I’m really surprised by that. There’s so much quality content, I’m shocked.
@@theconfusingwords It's mainly the smaller size of the retro gaming community compared to some others. Retro gaming is more niche than most people who watch videos about it would think. I'm the only person among my gaming friends who has more than a passing interest in retro stuff. Most people play games and move on and the nostalgia is more of a passing moment ("Oh yeah I remember that, that was fun back int he day") vs something they buy products for. The under 1 mil sub count is not really a reflection on MetalJesus, his stuff is great, there's just a more limited audience for it than other topics.
One of the best UA-camr. I still can't believe he still doesn't have a million subscribers. He deserves 5 million subscribers!!
He is getting close. We need to help get him to 1 mil.
imagine contacting youtubers to review your product and they totally hate it and don't recommend it haha, savage. good work MJR
Beware of Ultra deals folks, don't give them any Ultra bucks until they produce something truly Ultra and I don't mean Ultra crap.
Ultra comment
@@fders938 Ultra Reply
You know the warrio 64 doesnt look bad. Its just not worth what they are asking.
Yeap. I'd pay something for the case itself and the controlers, but nothing even close to the price...
So getting an original NTSC N64 board that has been RGB/HDMI modded for you, that has been refurbished/recapped and tested, along with a new outer case, two new controllers, all the cables needed to easily hook it up to an HDTV, and to have all that shipped to your front door for only $150, is "just not worth what they are asking" in your opinion?
@@CoroaEntertainment Or you could just get a $30 Hyperkin cable, hook it up to your original N64, and have the same experience. According to MetalJesus, at least.
@@fuinharlz The controller itself at least has been sold by Hori for years now.
So a $25 controller + $25 Hyperkin HDMI cable will get you the same experience as this $95 product.
As much as N64s go for these days alone this isnt a bad deal for someone who dont have one at all. You could spend $100 and get a dud of a system so this dont seem so bad for a starter.
I really appreciate this honest review! Job well done!
Glad it was helpful!
I was about to comment the same thing. Very refreshing on UA-cam to see a true review rather than a paid-for sales pitch.
Unlike that horrendous Gameloft Asphalt video...
@@MetalJesusRocks Can we have a video on emulators on android. Theres n65, and now GC emulation. Also the Over Drive N64 all in one game pak. Ive always been interested in this topic. I hear they are working on xbox 1 emulation. Thanks.
I like people like MJR that are independent and honest about products like this even when they get sponsored by these companies!
He is not independent. He has had sponsors in the past
The console looks like Optimus primes face😂 I can't be the only person that sees it🤣
Nintendo consoles, Transform, and roll out!
@@RoyOrbisonsElvisTape 😂 roll out and don't come back
Well....NOW I do!!
@@vsm303 😂
Now I can't unsee it
Great first impressions! We also had an email from them regarding review units, but they went rogue for the last few weeks. :S
You meant they ghosted you? "Going rogue" means breaking off to accomplish the mission for yourself.
@Sendit Sunday LOL! No, that would be the "CoroaEntertainment" guy you see flooding all the Warrior 64 comments sections with incorrect info and objectively bad takes. I'm combing the same threads since I'm invested in UltraHDMI and want to counter the misinformation. Only corrected this unrelated tid-bit so to eliminate future confusion. I know I would appreciate it if I were missusing it the same way. ;)
@Sendit SundayUltraHDMI... the N64 video upgrade kit that this Warrior 64 thing purported to compare itself to. I've literally installed several hundred, if not over 1,000 of them, and I don't want the people in the group buy to get the wrong impression about how they compare. It would be a disaster for them if they pulled out in anticipation of this Warrior 64 thing only to find out that they wasted their money and it's literally worse than getting a traditional RGB mod with one of those $15 SCART2HDMI adapters.
@@emmettturner9452 The earliest known citations for going rogue all dealt with elephants-appropriately enough for an expression that is now frequently used in reference to the Republican Party (often symbolized by an elephant).
“Itu gajah dya jehat! (That elephant’s going rogue)” remarked the head axeman, shaking his head. (Boys’ Life, January, 1924)
I just read this thread and I see a bunch of nerds rambling lol
Metal Jesus just put them out of business.
They forgot to comply with the hush money
Amen
Well, he accelerated it. It would have happened anyway. :-)
Didn't Jesus say he told them it wasn't good... And they said they developing another product anyway. So basically just they will do another kickstarter.
I don't need something like this
What I need is a time machine to go back to the late 90s
May be a long wait.
I loved my N64 more than any other console (I'm afraid it died a couple of years ago), but if I go back to the 90s I have a worse house, but then again a lot more hair! I'm conflicted.
Or a life in 2020
*Introducing a new KickStarter for the “90’s Time Machine”!!*
@referral madness Ha ha! Fully bald nowadays. When I was 18 I had longer hair than Metal Jesus! Mind you, it took a lot of effort to maintain. Now I just shave the lot.
Very refreshing to see a review that isn't positive. Many leave positive reviews because an item/game was sent for free to review. Thanks for Keeping it real MJR.
It looks slightly better than the cable to me, especially looking at the text in waveracer. The ultra HDMI looks much sharper though
Love your brutal honesty MJ, I know you never over or under sale your reviews, we need that in today's world more than ever.
I'll stick with my original N64 on a my Sony CRT television.
Even CRT's can't make it look that great unfortunately, like s-video looks tolerable but that's it. Even some of the basic mods like RGB don't do much because it blurs the shit out of everything on a hardware level.
@RaniaIsAwesome Why are you like this?
I'm an artist who worked on N64 games, and they were made to look good on CRT. I use CRTs (PVM and consumer level) for playing all the old school stuff. I can see the appeal for most people these days to use HD TVs and all that, but if you want to see the games the way we intended for them to be seen, it's CRT all the way.
@@jakfearon2945 I agree they do look good on CTR tvs also thats cool you did art in that generation im sure it was hard since it was the beginning of 3d
I RGB'd mine going through a RGC scart cable to a Gscart multi, then a Shinybow component converter before ending at my glorious Sony KV36FV310. 300lb monster SD CRT. How it was meant to be played! :)
4:53 "Do you miss the solid visual of the N64?" That solid is doing some heavy lifting there. Also it said in the back it was 720p.
This is why I love you as a UA-camr. You’re such an honest reviewer. This product could have been great, but they definitely blew it. I appreciate you doing this video.
How can he slap?
They obviously tried a con and got caught, thats kickstarter for you.
I don't think it's a full scam, the shell looks cool IMO and the controller could be a good Hori Pad replacement(Just buy a Brawler64). That being said, the mod is obviously some cheap hack instead of a proper mod, and the wording is pretty shady about the quality.
What's the con? Offering an hdmi solution for the n64?
@@SuperAndrew64 are you invested in warrior 64 or something? You seem to be replying to everyone’s criticism of this awful product with some anger. That’s ok, some people like terrible things.
@@Aenima308 in fact, i did back the warrior 64 and I can confirm it is a piece of junk. i am sending mine back. it seemed like a good affordable solution to an hdmi n64 but I have actually experienced it myself so now my opinion has changed
@@SuperAndrew64 completely understand man. Sucks they promised something they couldn’t deliver.
When even Jesus can't find anything positive to say about your product, you might wanna go back to the drawing board, or choose a new profession
Atleast he likes how the shell looks
Thanks for this! I've been watching the kickstarter and hoping a retro reviewer (you specifically) would get their hands on it to confirm some of the speculation going around about it. You're the best, Metal Jesus!!
The box art doesn't make a lot of sense. It looks like something from the 80s but the N64 is from the mid-90s.
THAT’S what you choose to bitch about? Man, some gamers are the biggest man babies ever. Have to find something to cry about
@@abstractheory1 you are clearly a shill for this company
I was thinking the box screamed 'bootleg'...it was chintzy and cheesy in the worst way.
@@chriseaton2730 He isn't shilling though, he's just saying it's a bit odd you choose to complain about the box over the disappointing product inside. . .
@@abstractheory1 yeah he should've complained about the same stuff as the video we all just watched!!
I love hearing the same thing over and over!
I had a bad feeling from the start looking at this project.
You could tell their knowledge wasn't enough by just reading the description on their Kickstarter.
"it comes with a box and it comes with everything inside of the box"
Hmm, interesting 🤔
"A complete package, 5/10"
Eh, I mean, it's not always a sure thing.
The warrior looked slightly more crisp to me than the cable. Not nearly enough for the price difference, but there was a slight improvement.
It looked quite a bit more crisp.
Confused the title for Quest 64! Phew!
I thought it was a game called Warrior 64. 😄
@Nigel Douglas They all had 63 versions before them obviously.
I thought this was a hyrule warriors port LMAO
EW! You just reminded of ProJared.
@@GatorRay What the heck are you talking about? I'm wearing pants!
I stay away from hdmi bs gimmicks for my older systems. Instead I have an old TV. Nothing beats gaming the way I grew up doing it!
Same here, though I got a RetroTink & a good inverter for my Semi. Along with a busted PS2&Wii for "backups."
Looks like shit, but there's no input lag... Can't really take a CRT with me though.
Only thing like this I ever got was a plug for my GC, but I didn't have to open it, solder it and possibly ruin it. Just plug and play. Amazing thing.
Same!
Kept a big tube television for years for N64 and SNES gaming!! 😊👍
I like up scaled emulators.
but if you have an old CRT with a DVI port, the HDMI mods will give you an amazing image.
Small bits of MJR savagery coming through in short bursts here and there. I love it!!!
99% of the stuff on Kickstarter is just a blatant scam, why do people still throw away money at it is beyond me.
@Mustache Twirling Bad Guy Let's see your proof?
I donated to planetary annihilation and it was great
I've basically stopped funding in there, but I've gotten some great stuff there as well.
I've gotten some amazing shit off of Kickstarter. Just be choosy about what you back and pick stuff that isn't promising the world and you will be fine.
Videos like this are great. Being able to compare mods in action side by side really shows off what you're getting for your money.
There are so many companies that take advantage of retro gamers...it's honestly kind of ridiculous at this point, IMO.
Thank you for an honest review, looks like I'll be sticking with my CRT till it dies, and just go with a basic cable when the time comes.
Beware to kickstarters trying to pull the wool over our eyes: don’t ask honest reviewers to look at your product.
It doesn’t sound like they were trying to trick anyone so much as they just didn’t know what they were doing.
This sounds more like a tragedy. I feel kinda bad for these guys if they really didn't realize....and I could totally see that.
Imagine spending years of your life on a project, and you actually deliver it....nice box, presentation, material quality and all.....just to find out you missed a critical point.....
Not only does that part of your life feel wasted, but the income you were really counting on is just gone.
Props for the Cannonball Run poster.
This is the first MJR video I’ve watched. Keep up the good work!
I remember when I was younger playing Wave Race for the 1st time thinking "OMG this is beautiful and it looks so real!" lol The water looked great for the time.
I still own the game since 99. Yes that water graphics are 🔥 I never found out how to do that spin move trick 😂 I need to find out
I was interested in this product. This is why Metal Jesus “Rocks” thanks for the honest review.
Seriously, if they gave this to Lew (Unbox Therapy) it would have been rave reviews across the board.
I heard about a 2nd version of the Ultra hdmi that is in development. Maybe it'll be easier to manufacture thus more available.
Pray
Hopefully its cheaper as well
I mean they clearly don't know what they're doing
No it's the same price...and nothing is easy to manufacture right now lol.
Maybe competition will breed someone willing to make a quality product to fill the demand that clearly has potential for profit.
do you guys not remember intec gaming solutions let me explain the last product intec produced for a long time was a portable monitor for the original xbox and even that monitor failed because they had tons of them with flickering issues and unable to do dvd playback from the original xbox
Can we just admit that it's a bit weird to hunt for the perfect output signal, when Project64 will easily give you 4K resolution? I mean, having passion for real hardware is one thing, but this isn't even original hardware.
"but this isn't even original hardware" @
Username I don't know what game console you were looking at, but the Warrior 64 uses an original Nintendo N64 motherboard (inside that new clear case) that has been modded with an RGB/HDMI kit.
@@CoroaEntertainment No offense, but it's like you're ignoring my point to be a smartass. Of course it's the original hardware inside - but the important bit, the presentation, the reason to use original hardware because of that special nostalgic tug, is gone. Noone cares about a Nintendo 64 built into an xbox one case, even if it contains original hardware.
How to kill a kickstarter 101
Thanks for this video! It really cleared up a lot of my questions. The Kickstarter info was vague.
glad to see you be honest and not always like everything LOL. Keep it up. We need another video with Reggie
Where's all the assholes saying he's bought out with the polymega review because they gave him a review unit? Ooooh, oh that's right. He gets item. He reviews item. And he speaks his mind, regardless of it being good or bad. Why anyone doubted him is beyond me.
It may not be what you were expecting in terms of video quality, but from what I see, it looks like a viable solution for people who no longer have a working N64 console to use. And it doesn't require finding an old T.V. to use. In that sense, I could definitely see the pre-built unit being worthwhile. I myself, could use another controller. I may look into whether or not those are available for purchase separately.
Do I even know what the Warrior 64 is? No.
Am I gonna support this super cool channel by watching this video and finding out what this is? Yep.
Metal Jesus Rocks 🤘
Are you a groupie? (Yes)
Are you a fanboy? (Yes)
Are you a beta? (Yes)
Is your name d eating Dan? (Yessir)
are you lonely right now? (Yes)
Are you trying to pretend to look down on me to feel better about yourself?(yes)
Anyone who uses the term beta and alpha aint getting any 🐱 (sorry!)
I'm not offended at all, but nobody who watches a 1hr compilation about how to be an alpha male is gonna come at me sideways.
This guy is fuck!n cool. Down to earth honest reviews and here are you: probably some neckbeard upset that his favorite anime isn't releasing a new episode yet. (But dont get your katana yet) I'm only making fun of how pathetic you are as an internet troll. Internet trolls were such a different breed so you must be a child, if so are you upset your crush has someone better (way better) than you in mind? Sucks to be you. That is the only reason why any random dude on UA-cam is in the comment section starting fights.
Now go back to your alpha male videos, cause I'm sure dragging some random dude on the internet is guranteed that you aren't happy.
Metal Jesus Rocks (oh and I have been watching him eversince)
What a hot mess, I can't say that I'm surprised though
Hey MJR, how’s your diet going? I’m proud that you’re making steps to better yourself. You’re the best retro gaming channel on the platform.
My respect for Metal Jesus just skyrocketed. Honest and fair review. Thanks!
I'm confused by this review. The warrior 64 footage looked 100x better than the ultra HDMI footage.
Thanks metal jesus. I don't have the money for an ultra HDMI mod, but i was contemplating getting this or an Ion Super 64 and an Mclassic combo. I decided on the 2nd option.
Your reviews are honest and trustworthy
Seems like a classic example of clueless people seeing a product they don't understand selling for $$$ and thinking they can make easy money.
It seems like these were people with technical knowledge but jumping into a market they didn't understand. They saw that ultraHDMI was hard to come by and expensive and figured they could offer a cheaper alternative. Problem was they didn't understand that ultraHDMI wasn't just about adding an HDMI port but also about offering a high quality signal.
I'm still happy with my original N64 using s-video on my 27" Sony CRT TV.
I've seen a few of Metal Jesus' videos but never subscribed. Then I saw this one and I mashed that subscribe button. Your honesty is what did it for me. Thanks man.
Based on the Waverace footage I thought it looked slightly better than the hdmi cable and the retrotink but not nearly as good as the ultra. Doesn't really matter since the N64 is a garbage system though.
Finally someone said it
Most over rated console of all time. If it didnt have the Zelda and Mario games it would be almost useless.
@@Gabriel-vj1cf Completely useless*
Whatever else it had was either a port of a PC fps, shitty collectathons or games that were also on PlayStation. Pair that with the need for extra RAM (sold separately*), awful controller design, a separate peripheral if you wanted rumble.
Warrior 64 is objectively worse with detail being lost in the blown-out colors (look at the floorboard of the red JetSki). UltraHDMI has adjustable Gamma.
Sounds like a bad deal. The Console I want to have an HDMI Mod is Playstation 2. I know you can play PS2 games on PS3, but not every PS3 Console will play PS2 Discs!
Not only that but the PS3 with retrocompatibility is very unreliable.
@@lordeilluminati i 100% agree. my 60gb ps3 has disc drive issues all the time, ive taken it apart multiple times to clean it and it works better for like a day and goes back to fighting me with releasing the disc. i would love a mod for the ps2 that displayed games in HD just like the ps3 without having to pay $300+ for cables and boxes to do it.
I've been waiting FOREVER. Maybe we'll get something along the lines of the hdmi adapters for GameCube. Fingers crossed
Don't the early model PS3's literally have the hardware of the PS2 built in? I know the later revisions don't and use software emulation but if you can get your hands on the launch models there is no reason every PS2 game shouldn't function.
@@devilmikey00 Well I couldn't find one by the time I decided to get a PS3. The old Slim was the only Model I could get my hands on.
“Metal Jesus” could also be called Steel God , right?
If you like.
But Jesus is not (a) god
and Steel is not an elemental metal either... (it's an alloy)
We call him T H I C C B O I around here.
Alrighty then
@@overlordalfredo ok ok ok ok ok
I still have my og N64 and it works perfectly fine.
Same. Bought it on launch day, saved money from newspaper delivery! Good times
My mom's friend has 2. He gave the working one to me. The other has no jumper pak
I have two. One we got for free in late 2013.. and the other for like 5 bucks or something in 2014
8:48 are you crazy the warrior is miles sharper lines, look to the laft of each picture- the red roof and stuff, the left picture is jaged and right picture is alot straighter and smother
5:15 - Blast Corps was a fricking fantastic game!
As I was watching this, I was thinking about why people love the N64 so much, and I thought of blast corps. Definitely one of the better games on the console. The list of must haves is pretty short IMO.
@@zosxavius Time to get moving.
Thanks for giving an honest take. Kickstarter has already been compromised on quality and it was only a matter of time before more garbage than legit products became available.
"Why would you do it like this?!"
To dupe people?
I'm still running my n64 though an RGB scart cable, the cheap HDMI solutions don't seem to be much of an improvement
Curious now that a few years has gone by, has the warrior 64 team ever reached out to you about their supposed ultra hdmi solution? I bet the supporters were pissed when they received these things. Thanks for the heads up though man. Appreciate it.
@5:48 "looks almost identical".. The Warrior 64 on the right looks so much better in that clip. lol.
"so much"? Ummm. It was marginal at best. But compared to what it SHOULD be then it is basically identical.
I personally hated the over saturation and brightness
Crack open your Hyperkin cable and compare the main IC.... Probably uses the exact same converter chip.
Same chip as Pound cables too.
Same chip as most HDMI boxes.
The circuits look a lot more complex than that on the Warrior 64. While one board plugs into the video output, an other one plugs directly onto the MAV-NUS chip which is responsible for digital-analog conversion and thus has direct RGB instead of crappy composite signal that the video output receives.
The Warrior 64 probably just lacks upscaling but actually has proper colors and a good signal. It's just a 480p signal.
The chip markings are scrubbed off.
@@msklywenn The one connected to the MAV-NUS in their installation video is one of three adapter boards meant to deal with the different video DAC/Encoder sizes and pinouts:
One for VDC-NUS (early NTSC video DAC/Encoder with analog RGB output)
One for DENC-NUS (PAL video DAC/Encoder)
One for AVDC-NUS (audio DAC and video DAC/Encoder).
The adapter boards literally just adapt the ribbon connector for each version of the video DAC chip and doesn't do anything other than make a connection, so it isn't really what you need to be looking at... though you might want to note that only AVDC/MAV-NUS have digital audio so it will have to get audio from elsewhere.
The board on the AV Multi-out is the CPLD digital to analog RGB mod with a resistor ladder DAC as Tim Worthington designed it way back in 2007. The adapter board from the digital side of the N64's video DAC connects to the top side, giving it the digital signal it needs to make analog RGB.
Unfortunately, it only connects to Audio, Power, and Ground on the AV Multi-out, so it will not restore analog RGB despite what their Kickstarter video said about "the back" having RGB and HDMI. Audio goes right out the side connector to their HDMI board. Analog RGBS video from the resistor ladder also goes through this connector to the HDMI board. Hopefully you can see where this is going...
YEP. The HDMI board is another one of those crappy chips that you see in all the generic SCART2HDMI, AV2HDMI, YPbPr2HDMI, etc boxes that you can get for $15. That's also the same garbage they put inside Pound, LevelHike, Hyperkin, etc HDMI cables before marking them up $15 or more while pretending that they were made specifically for those consoles. Here:s the thing: they were made to handle analog inputs for a digital TV. They were made to send the scaled output to the digital display at its native resolutin, but they take that signal and run it back through an HDMI transmitter instead. This results in double-scaling, increased latency, and worse: NONE of these off-the-shelf analog input chips properly handle 240p, which is the native resolution of most consoles before the Dreamcast. Therefore, it is a scam to charge $10-15 extra while acting like it is designed specifically for a console where it doesn't even properly support that console's native resolution.
Not supporting 240p means treating it like 480i, which means deinterlacing non-interlaced video. That means adding latency, blurring motion, and ruining 60hz flashing effects like simulated transparency.
Stay FAR away from this garbage. If they truly wanted to tailor it for the N64 then they would have included Peter Bartmann or Tim Worthington's N64 YPbPr output and then incorporated the line doubler used on RetroTink 2X, RAD2X, Super64, Wii2HDMI, etc. Obviously, they aren't those kinds of engineers. They are the "take a thing and stick it into another thing" kind of engineers using the same $15 scalers they been scamming everyone with for $30.
@@msklywenn Warrior 64 incompetently scales it to 720p. What should be a simple 3x240p line multiplier, instead, gets processed as 480i, then 480i gets scaled to 720p. The issue with a Line 3X multiplier is that the timing will not be 60hz like most TVs expect and often will not work, but 480p will, so Line 2X is the way to go. Even TVs that improperly scale 240p will scale 480p to their native resolution just fine.
MetalJesus was given a free review unit, yet he still didn't suck up to bad products. Great job
respect
Didn’t hear about this but glad I didn’t until now, would have been a huge disappointment
Gamesack said "Hidden Gems" again so I came here to watch your show. Haven't been here in a while.
Gotta love it every time Joe does that haha
The video wasn't clickbait. The summary was in the title. We still watched it.
I wish youtube could learn from all of these people watching completely forthright videos.
Oh man just imagine how many systems are getting destroyed by this mod the ultra hdmi you showed at first looks way better
Yeah that was my first thought when he said they're using real motherboards...N64's are gonna be few and far between if this kind of thing really takes off.
At about 9:10 he said printed boards so no clue if they're oem or not but if they're stripping functional hardware for this that's a waste.
@@GlassMaster_Jae the pcb is new for their for hdmi mod. They're using oem N64 motherboards.
@@wm3315 that honestly hurts my soul
@@GlassMaster_Jae yeah but at least they can likely be salvaged; unlike the untold numbers of New In Box controllers destroyed by speedrunning rage.
Near impossible to get a N64 or Gamecube controller in decent original shape thanks to them and Smash players.. and all the new 3rd party controllers made for those consoles use those godawful copied mechanisms of Xbox360/PS3 analogue sticks.
You know what you never did? Use a mini hdmi adapter to HDMI on your Ultra HDMI and connect with the mClassic I'm very curious to see how it would be the output of that
Why would you want to reduce pixelization when the original pixels are what you want to get as clear as possible?
@@emmettturner9452 Simple, because not everybody likes the same things. If you like the clear pixels to have that serrated edge cool but there's also people who like as smooth as possible. It's just preference.
@@wagnerapinheiro Yeah, but your preference defeats the purpose. Stick with analog goo if you don't want to see the pixels.
@@emmettturner9452 I am sticking with that thanks. But about defeating purposes?? Maybe it defeats what you have as standard for yourself but remember what I said tastes differ and you don't have to jump on a bandwagon just because someone said this or that is better. Just use the way you like it.
@@wagnerapinheiro I'm not talking about "taste." I'm saying that it is objectively superior if the goal is higher quality signal. You can measure it on an oscilloscope. Science. Objectivity. Facts. ;) If you don't like pixels then you can do whatever post-processing you want but, even then, it is objectively better to start with a pixel-perfect image even if you want to process it and hide the pixels. The problem with mClassic is that it would only work right if it supported the N64's native 240p resolution but the UltraHDMI doesn't even support outputting that (always line-doubled). Instead, it sees a source pixel after it is scaled with at least four times as many pixels so it can only presume that the square shape is intentional detail, which is why their mCable works so much better on higher-resolution modern console games.
Will you be doing a review soon on the Retrotink 2x mini? I’m thinking of getting it as a drop in replacement for my old dvdo iscan pro , and I’d love to hear your thoughts on their newest product.
Just like most AV to HDMI solutions, the lag is actually minimal but the picture is too dark. Must be related to resistance in the cable? Looks the same as my £10 AV-HDMI box off Amazon
Thanks for the heads-up. Honestly the difference in shading doesn't make too much difference to me since I can just alter colors on the TV if the shade/tint really does start to bother me so -I'll probably buy it anyway, but it IS nice to know exactly what I'm getting regardless. If graphic pallet being a bit off is the only issue and everything else runs fine (which I'm assuming is the case since you made NO mention of sound quality or graphic stuttering or glitching or game compatibility at all and only focused on the colors) then I'll still get it-
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Went to their website for more info. Apparently they've been having a LOT of problems with the machines. You apparently got one of the better ones from what I've read. Some of their info hasn't been updated in awhile and other parts don't really make sense. This might have been an elaborate scam rather than an actual kickstarter project. I could be wrong but that's the vibes I'm getting. Even if that's not the case China ain't looking too good right now. Floods, unemployment through the roof, buildings and bridges collapsing...this might go under even if the intentions behind it are legit. Last update was a little over 2 years ago.
that guitar in the back is beautiful
Saw the T-shirt, liked the video, I'm a simple man.
Faster than a bullet
Terrifying scream
Enraged and full of anger
He is half man and half machine - Painkiller, Judas Priest
I bet the company that sent these for review are now wishing that they didn't 😂
This is one of the reasons why I love you channel . wicked honest review! !
Well that sucks! This could have been a great solution for some people to get that ultra hdmi quality the company was shouting about but it looks like was bogus all along. I appreciate your honesty MJR.
I, personally, don't like the look of the warrior 64 case. The transparent green isn't bad but it looks a lot like a Cyber Truck. I'd probably like it if they took more of a "Low poly N64" approach. Also, it kinda sucks the the video out quality is on par with a Hyperkin cable. Just some of my thoughts.
I mostly dislike aftermarket consoles just because of the casing (for example, I think the Analogue consoles nail in features but hate the product casing). I know that they do this to avoid copyright infringement, but still...
You could see it coming. This has smelled bad for a long time, too good to be true. I think I'll continue with my modded RGB N64 and my Framemeister.
"I think I'll continue with my modded RGB N64 and my Framemeister."
And how much did that set you back? (that's a rhetorical question)
@@CoroaEntertainment Depends on what RGB mod you use and whether you do it yourself or not. The frame meister is over $400 now I think
@@CoroaEntertainment The mod I did it myself. It's a Tim Worthington RGB mod that cost me about € 50. The Framemeister cost me about € 400 more or less plus customs. It is expensive because I use it with 14 consoles so for me it is worth it considering the image quality. So lately Sun connected the N64 RGB modded to a CRT. Of all the consoles that exist, the N64 is the one that benefits the most from a CRT.
Get an RGB mod with VI deblur like Tim Worthington's board. Then use an OSSC or a SNES component cable. Just as good (or better with an ossc) plus you can use it with professional monitors
And how much will all that set a person back? (that's a rhetorical question) ;-)
@@CoroaEntertainment my rhetorical answer would be less than an ultrahdmi if you are paying for install. The mod is more reversible too which is important to some, and it’s all much more readily available.
Well Jason, it looks like you're off their Christmas card list but you did a good job on the honest review, you've just saved a few people some of their hard earned cash!
I know metal jesus eyes had to turn into red gum balls, staring at those bright ass red dots lol.
Send one to bob. Can’t wait to see his review on it.
Bob just posted, it’s on the way. He’ll do a short video.
Intec has been around a while, they’ve always made low quality accessories.
Are you sure its the same company ? This one says Intec Gaming. Wasn't the other one just Intec?
Definitely not the same company. Different logo, different name. Why would a giant Chinese manufacturer start a Kickstarter for another gaming accessory?
I think Intec is also infamous for making a crap Wii KnockOff Console.
These poor N64 upgrade solutions are one of the many reasons why I keep several CRT televisions around in my inventory.
They should honestly just be selling the shell and nothing else. The crappy LevelHike HDMI solution isn't worth a single penny much less what they are trying to charge for it. They knew exactly what they were doing. They knew most consumers wouldn't know the difference between a quality HDMI solution and a crappy one.
oooooooooooooooor. You get a usb adapter, plug it into your pc and rock that goldeneye with fixed textures, or mods that are INCREDIBLE. Metal Jesus, have you tried any of those? The super mario mod forexample so much fun!!!