The fact you guys and lady built this board with a shrine is the perfect reason why the Titan isn't buried up to its knees. Wasn't the Sphinx buried up to its neck about 100 years ago... oh! You should do a small souvenir stand! Have wee t-shirts with a picture of titan legs, and tiny titan legs for sale!
Interestingly on mars it would hardly be buried at all as there's 1% of earths atmosphere there's essentially no wind to blow sand over the titan. In 40k mars was terraformed then that terraforming was lost- so I'm assuming it 'reverted' to the atmosphere we have on mars now.
@@Vandralys Au contraire, there's shitloads of wind, just not much density/force behind said wind. Duststorms than can cover 1/2 the planet for months.
11:48 - The Hellstorm Canon (Aquila Ignis) we see in your table and in the Dawn of War Dark Crusade was salvaged and took to Kronus by the Mechanicus (Magos Paladius) after the Horus heresy, so technically is canon that the Mechanicus would dig the remains and try to salvage some of that parts and even worship them. Want to know more, search for Aquila Ignis inside Lexicanum.
I actually love that you guys are cutting up the titan and making it part of a gaming board. While the titan is the biggest and most expensive model you can field in the game, you need some very special games to actually use them in, the type of games you only play every so often. However this board can be used for all kind of games and all kind of point values. And in that way you get a lot more use out of the titan then you otherwise would.
Fantastic work, folks! I like the idea that the stories of the lava flow were exaggerated and it turns out that the "flood" only reached the ankles of the titan - which is still like deeper than a human height, but not enough to completely submerge the titans. Leans in to the idea that unreliable narrators and hard to access archives are endemic to the imperium, leading to inaccurate and contradictory legends of these battles. Which, in turn, opens up cool stories like the shrine to the fallen titan. :D
I'm not even mad that the ending of Mechanicum is given away. This project is sooo awesome and I'm practically salivating at the prospect of hearing the details of this titanic clash of God Machines - ENGINE KILL!
I can 100% see the Mechanicus taking hundreds, if not thousands, of years to excavate the site of the battle to this state. With how much reverence they have towards Titans some dedicated Techpriests would move mountains to uncover one of their ancient god-machines.
A bottom portion of a an exploded pressure vessel would look cool in the carcass, like a reactor containment vessel that blew up and the bottom was somewhat intact, which is what would spare the hips/legs
After years of not painting and making models I finally got back into it. Never stopped keeping up with the lore and new kits but after watching table top time for ages now I decided its time to come back to the model side of the hobby
These videos using the titans and all the mechanicum novel talk has made me re read it after years. It definitely is one of the more interesting in the HH books
i know its probably too late, but in the future if you need to make something look melted, or shot at by a HUGE LASER. Start a small campfire, put a steel pipe in the embers for about 20 mins until its red hot and then carefully stick the pipe onto the top of the model. the resin will melt and leave you a realistic looking channel where it was "shot" once you remove the pipe.. Goey strings of resin and all.
The melting point of aluminium may be lower than many other metals, but its still much higher than the temperature of a naked flame... and the melting point of resin.
Come on Jen, I know you have it in you to say "I will have 'nun'of your puns" And now for a comment about the board... The thing looks sicker and sicker with every passing video. I don't even want to make any predictions or guesses on how it will come out, because I'm sure you guys will blow away anything I'd think of
This is so cool!!! Cant wait to see the end result. Parts of exploded titan being inbedded into the ground sounds so cool. I have an idea in my head of a board where titan has exploded in the middle and the shockwave and debree destroyed other titants/knights/ surface around it, stopping a huge battle by one massive blast.
This is proberly the best usage of a titan model. so many titans are just sitting on the shelf. atleast this one will be seeing some game time, even though its wrecked !!! btw Tabletop time Team, when will we see those 40k battlereports ? i cant wait much longer :P
Re: the whole realism thing, I think you've hit upon a fantastic "excuse" by framing it as a potential Adeptus Mechanicus archaeological dig. Of course it's not a huge crater, it's been excavated :) Also, the AdMech are _definitely_ the types who'd erect a shrine at the wreck of half a titan :D
For future reference, aluminum has a low melting point, but it is also highly conductive. This means that heat applied to the aluminum will spread through the whole mass, preventing the aluminum from slagging where you had the torch pointed and more turning it into something akin to the hot wire on your hot wire cutter, just embedded in your resin model.
People who say this isn't lore-friendly should just chill the f out. One of the best parts of 40k is that you can quite easyly make your own stories. To end on a positive note, I can't wait to see the finished board, all the parts looks soooo good so far :D
Mechanicum took more than half of the book for me to finally get hooked, the Legio Tempestus bits where the only thing that kept me going. The book took a month for me to finish, when I normally finish a book or 2 in a week. The second half of the book I couldn't put down and this board is turning out so cool! Awesome to see the Deus!
UV resin and plasticard rods. You really are finding new (to me) ideas how to get the effect you are after. And the rule of cool as well as playability trump realism every time.
The melting temp of aluminum is 660 degrees Celsius, considerably higher than iron or copper. That you attempted it with a hand torch is one of the reasons I love this channel.
@@TabletopTime Haha! Thanks for doing the crazy stuff so the rest of us don't have to. Wish I could attend the con but it's half way around the world. That board is gonna knock them dead.
airburst explosions don't leave much of a crater behind, being the titan 32 meters tall, an explosion from 25 meters up, more or less the center of the core, is still high enough off the ground to be considered an airburst. Reference the pictures of ground 0 of the first nuclear test, the tower where the bomb stood on was 30 meters tall and there is 0 cratering. So, involuntary good choice I guess. Kudos for the immense work by the way
UHU glue makes a good alternative for resin but if you want to do small drips slice up a transparent sprue or a clear plastic fork into longish slivers, attach them to something (i put them in a cork) and dip them in the resin. If you vary the length and put them in a line you also get other interesting effects.
While Id be terrified to cut such an expensive model and be used as a simple terrain piece. To be limited in your creativity because of a feeling of obligation to make it a playable miniature would limit all the awesome concepts and pieces to be made. A game board consisting of a titan graveyard is so badass, but it can only be achieved by the sacrifice of these expensive masses of resin.
They arent particularly playable anyway... They have completely abandoned and abysmal 40k rules, and in 30k you need a minimum 12000pt army to field a single warlord on your side. (Thats a weekend sized game) Few have titans, fewer have the time to play with them! Everyone can enjoy this
Even back in 4th and 5th edition I barely saw titans used on games I played in. The odd apocalypse size campaign game but even then there was only one.
@Tabletop Time wow. Ive seen several people complain about doing anything different with a Warlord Titan, even in Squidmars Titan prroject, but it seems like really all it is a fun painting project. Which what you are all doing. Keep up the good work guys, things like this is what makes this community such a creative one
I love the whole thing, but the dramatic 🎼🎶"DUUUHH!!!" Whenever you say Deus Tempestus (🎼🎶"DUUUHH!!!") made me laugh, as well as Dave laying outside and presumably dying of a mixture of Australian heat, aerosol particles, and being sprayed like one of those french boys... uh girls... uh whatever... (🤣🤣🤣)
As an archaeologist, your comment about how much more buried it would be amused me. 10,000 years is such a vastly long timeframe that we honestly have no idea what would happen lmao.
Above ground explosions don't create big craters (if they even make one at all) so having a small crater is not only playable, but fairly accurate. I mean, as accurate as you can get in a fantasy universe
Just an observation, but a critical Engine reaction turns sand to glass in the stories, and although the scene is Millennia later, you could show patches of glassed sand in the crater- or even just lining that crater-rim (which by nature would be more exposed by storms) by giving it a gloss varnish around the rim and not forgetting some patches of black or dark brown to show the intensity of the original blast wave (and it would give a nice contrast to the red landscape) Just a thought...
Amazing. You were probably thinking about White Metal which melts around 130C, it's a mix of antimony, tin, lead, cadmium, bismuth, and zinc in varying amounts depending on the properties desired. Aluminum has a melting point around 660C.
Wow it came out so great! More peelies please. All the peelies. It's good to see Murray! I was worried Dave's...unique spray paint dance/ground roll might be because of his absence/lack of supervision 😅😅 Also did you ever find that huge spider?? Is that just a thing that happens?! 😨Can't wait for the next video!
It would be crazy cool if there were shrines surrounding the feet, as if cargo cults built up around a ten thousand year old wreck. EDIT: I typed that only halfway through. You guys killed it!
I’m loving this Titan board it’s looking sooo cool! A little thing my mind thought was maybe you could do a radioactive green egg that’s hatched and there’s green footsteps fading off towards the mountains?
as far as the idea that the crater would be much too deep and frustrating to place models in during gameplay, you could just lean harder into the archeology angle. the mechanicus of the 40K era have only excavated as much of the crater as they needed to view all of the titan wreckage, but haven't bothered digging much further than that into the rock.
I find it hard to believe anyone could complain about the realism of a 40k board. Not only is 40k practically impossible anyway, but even if it isn't possible, it's fucking awesome!
Damn this is amazing! I think it woukd be pretty cool if under the fragments of the titan theres crushed skelitons, or perhaps some dead Horus herasy era marines.
You could had still stayed true to the lore by incorporating magma into the board, it would had looked pretty awesome with some led lighting in the magma sections.
@@patrickbateman69420 whether you favor aluminum melting at 1232 degrees F or favour aluminium melting at 660 degrees C, the statement that it’s melting point is low is incorrect. Yeah, a propane torch can melt it in a pure form, but applying the torch to wires embedded in resin wasn’t going to work.
Using UV resin to have random molten glass around explosion and in the trench from the unseen heat might be a nice touch fake Jazza commit saying I won something
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When is the battle reports going to come out
Whoever named the chapters for this video... good job
Actually did not even notice this until reading your comment lol. You are correct. Legendary.
work of art
The finest Canis Latinus!
Topium-commentus-Tempestus
Gotta love the booming drone that plays whenever he says Deus Tempestus
I know right
While the CC says legendary dentist, or dance tempus.
I was gonna say the same thing and saw that you’d beat me to it. It made me smile every time. That’s comedy!!!
You forgot your * dum dummmm!!*
Bwaaaaaaam
The fact you guys and lady built this board with a shrine is the perfect reason why the Titan isn't buried up to its knees. Wasn't the Sphinx buried up to its neck about 100 years ago... oh! You should do a small souvenir stand! Have wee t-shirts with a picture of titan legs, and tiny titan legs for sale!
Interestingly on mars it would hardly be buried at all as there's 1% of earths atmosphere there's essentially no wind to blow sand over the titan.
In 40k mars was terraformed then that terraforming was lost- so I'm assuming it 'reverted' to the atmosphere we have on mars now.
@@Vandralys Au contraire, there's shitloads of wind, just not much density/force behind said wind. Duststorms than can cover 1/2 the planet for months.
Mars also has enormous dune fields (within craters)!
You should pierce the other smaller titans with the spare armor bits of the Warlord!!
11:48 - The Hellstorm Canon (Aquila Ignis) we see in your table and in the Dawn of War Dark Crusade was salvaged and took to Kronus by the Mechanicus (Magos Paladius) after the Horus heresy, so technically is canon that the Mechanicus would dig the remains and try to salvage some of that parts and even worship them.
Want to know more, search for Aquila Ignis inside Lexicanum.
I actually love that you guys are cutting up the titan and making it part of a gaming board. While the titan is the biggest and most expensive model you can field in the game, you need some very special games to actually use them in, the type of games you only play every so often. However this board can be used for all kind of games and all kind of point values. And in that way you get a lot more use out of the titan then you otherwise would.
Fantastic work, folks! I like the idea that the stories of the lava flow were exaggerated and it turns out that the "flood" only reached the ankles of the titan - which is still like deeper than a human height, but not enough to completely submerge the titans. Leans in to the idea that unreliable narrators and hard to access archives are endemic to the imperium, leading to inaccurate and contradictory legends of these battles. Which, in turn, opens up cool stories like the shrine to the fallen titan. :D
I love that approach to the lore
I'm not even mad that the ending of Mechanicum is given away. This project is sooo awesome and I'm practically salivating at the prospect of hearing the details of this titanic clash of God Machines - ENGINE KILL!
I can 100% see the Mechanicus taking hundreds, if not thousands, of years to excavate the site of the battle to this state. With how much reverence they have towards Titans some dedicated Techpriests would move mountains to uncover one of their ancient god-machines.
A bottom portion of a an exploded pressure vessel would look cool in the carcass, like a reactor containment vessel that blew up and the bottom was somewhat intact, which is what would spare the hips/legs
After years of not painting and making models I finally got back into it. Never stopped keeping up with the lore and new kits but after watching table top time for ages now I decided its time to come back to the model side of the hobby
Because it's fun! 🤓👍🏻
These videos using the titans and all the mechanicum novel talk has made me re read it after years. It definitely is one of the more interesting in the HH books
Agreed!
i know its probably too late, but in the future if you need to make something look melted, or shot at by a HUGE LASER. Start a small campfire, put a steel pipe in the embers for about 20 mins until its red hot and then carefully stick the pipe onto the top of the model. the resin will melt and leave you a realistic looking channel where it was "shot" once you remove the pipe.. Goey strings of resin and all.
Should have put some carnival games and a rollercoaster round the tempestus.
The melting point of aluminium may be lower than many other metals, but its still much higher than the temperature of a naked flame... and the melting point of resin.
Come on Jen, I know you have it in you to say "I will have 'nun'of your puns"
And now for a comment about the board... The thing looks sicker and sicker with every passing video. I don't even want to make any predictions or guesses on how it will come out, because I'm sure you guys will blow away anything I'd think of
Always gotta appreciate the shot of Dave with a pair of Titan legs just hanging in a field. 1:02
This is so cool!!! Cant wait to see the end result. Parts of exploded titan being inbedded into the ground sounds so cool. I have an idea in my head of a board where titan has exploded in the middle and the shockwave and debree destroyed other titants/knights/ surface around it, stopping a huge battle by one massive blast.
This is proberly the best usage of a titan model. so many titans are just sitting on the shelf.
atleast this one will be seeing some game time, even though its wrecked !!!
btw Tabletop time Team, when will we see those 40k battlereports ? i cant wait much longer :P
Right when I'm about to go to sleep.
Ah, well, it happens. Who needs sleep, anyway? Got a space cleric... thing to paint anyway.
Best part of this whole board so far is the shrine framing the kneepad: a little bit of emotion in a huge blasted landscape.
Re: the whole realism thing, I think you've hit upon a fantastic "excuse" by framing it as a potential Adeptus Mechanicus archaeological dig. Of course it's not a huge crater, it's been excavated :) Also, the AdMech are _definitely_ the types who'd erect a shrine at the wreck of half a titan :D
Tabletop time really needs a priming patio.
Edit: Deus Tempestus *bwam*
For future reference, aluminum has a low melting point, but it is also highly conductive. This means that heat applied to the aluminum will spread through the whole mass, preventing the aluminum from slagging where you had the torch pointed and more turning it into something akin to the hot wire on your hot wire cutter, just embedded in your resin model.
*aluminium - all other English-speaking countries say it correctly. The US dumbed-down version sounds awful.
Bro went pacific rim on em
Who ever named the "bookmarks" of the video timeline is awesome XD "Sprayus Tempestus"
People who say this isn't lore-friendly should just chill the f out. One of the best parts of 40k is that you can quite easyly make your own stories. To end on a positive note, I can't wait to see the finished board, all the parts looks soooo good so far :D
Mechanicum took more than half of the book for me to finally get hooked, the Legio Tempestus bits where the only thing that kept me going. The book took a month for me to finish, when I normally finish a book or 2 in a week. The second half of the book I couldn't put down and this board is turning out so cool! Awesome to see the Deus!
Not the spider moment😂
Loving the video chapter names 🤣
UV resin and plasticard rods. You really are finding new (to me) ideas how to get the effect you are after.
And the rule of cool as well as playability trump realism every time.
Chapter names are hilarious.
Soldering iron is good for extreme weathering/melted effect
This is absolutely incredible, it really gets across the scale of the titan
This looks awesome! I cannot wait to see the full board! Great job and best of luck!
Amazing ! I love the painting scheme and the chipping effects.
The melting temp of aluminum is 660 degrees Celsius, considerably higher than iron or copper. That you attempted it with a hand torch is one of the reasons I love this channel.
Murray said try burning it he didn't need to suggest it twice 🤣
@@TabletopTime Haha! Thanks for doing the crazy stuff so the rest of us don't have to. Wish I could attend the con but it's half way around the world. That board is gonna knock them dead.
Ive found, if fire doesnt work, just add more fire
„Looking into the schism of mars“… that sounds like an easy way to get burnt as an heretic ;D
airburst explosions don't leave much of a crater behind, being the titan 32 meters tall, an explosion from 25 meters up, more or less the center of the core, is still high enough off the ground to be considered an airburst. Reference the pictures of ground 0 of the first nuclear test, the tower where the bomb stood on was 30 meters tall and there is 0 cratering. So, involuntary good choice I guess. Kudos for the immense work by the way
Fantastic build, you guys! I was terrified at first when you cut the warlord in two, but it was definitely worth it. Good luck, and God bless!
UHU glue makes a good alternative for resin but if you want to do small drips slice up a transparent sprue or a clear plastic fork into longish slivers, attach them to something (i put them in a cork) and dip them in the resin. If you vary the length and put them in a line you also get other interesting effects.
While Id be terrified to cut such an expensive model and be used as a simple terrain piece. To be limited in your creativity because of a feeling of obligation to make it a playable miniature would limit all the awesome concepts and pieces to be made. A game board consisting of a titan graveyard is so badass, but it can only be achieved by the sacrifice of these expensive masses of resin.
They arent particularly playable anyway... They have completely abandoned and abysmal 40k rules, and in 30k you need a minimum 12000pt army to field a single warlord on your side. (Thats a weekend sized game) Few have titans, fewer have the time to play with them! Everyone can enjoy this
Even back in 4th and 5th edition I barely saw titans used on games I played in. The odd apocalypse size campaign game but even then there was only one.
@Tabletop Time wow. Ive seen several people complain about doing anything different with a Warlord Titan, even in Squidmars Titan prroject, but it seems like really all it is a fun painting project. Which what you are all doing. Keep up the good work guys, things like this is what makes this community such a creative one
The explosion effect on the torso works so well
I love the whole thing, but the dramatic 🎼🎶"DUUUHH!!!" Whenever you say Deus Tempestus (🎼🎶"DUUUHH!!!") made me laugh, as well as Dave laying outside and presumably dying of a mixture of Australian heat, aerosol particles, and being sprayed like one of those french boys... uh girls... uh whatever...
(🤣🤣🤣)
As an archaeologist, your comment about how much more buried it would be amused me.
10,000 years is such a vastly long timeframe that we honestly have no idea what would happen lmao.
the titles of the chapters are so funny. Well done Videus Tempestus *bummmmmmmm*
Above ground explosions don't create big craters (if they even make one at all) so having a small crater is not only playable, but fairly accurate. I mean, as accurate as you can get in a fantasy universe
I use my UV resin for my printer all the times with a UV flashlight. It can do almost anything. Total game changer
Just an observation, but a critical Engine reaction turns sand to glass in the stories, and although the scene is Millennia later, you could show patches of glassed sand in the crater- or even just lining that crater-rim (which by nature would be more exposed by storms) by giving it a gloss varnish around the rim and not forgetting some patches of black or dark brown to show the intensity of the original blast wave (and it would give a nice contrast to the red landscape)
Just a thought...
Amazing. You were probably thinking about White Metal which melts around 130C, it's a mix of antimony, tin, lead, cadmium, bismuth, and zinc in varying amounts depending on the properties desired. Aluminum has a melting point around 660C.
*aluminium
I am loving every bit of this build, amazing work everyone!
The bwaaaah every time someone said “Deus Tempestus” (bwaaaah) had me in tears 😂
Wow it came out so great! More peelies please. All the peelies. It's good to see Murray! I was worried Dave's...unique spray paint dance/ground roll might be because of his absence/lack of supervision 😅😅 Also did you ever find that huge spider?? Is that just a thing that happens?! 😨Can't wait for the next video!
You should have used metal Solder for electronics or for plumbing as it melts at lower temps than the resin.
Wow incredible paintwork.
You could add spikes made of black glass(resin) to look like the explosion caused some of the sand to melt
The resin used by GW and FW is a thermoset, super stable in temperature, does not melt and degrade before even becoming honey-like ;-)
All I want is some warlord titan legs to use for an Ork Gargant and here they are being used for terrain.
Sigh.........
Appreciate the longer video duration on this one.
Maybe a couple of dangling cables going from the titan to the Mechanicus machine, as if they were trying to take measurements or something.
It would be crazy cool if there were shrines surrounding the feet, as if cargo cults built up around a ten thousand year old wreck.
EDIT: I typed that only halfway through. You guys killed it!
I’m loving this Titan board it’s looking sooo cool! A little thing my mind thought was maybe you could do a radioactive green egg that’s hatched and there’s green footsteps fading off towards the mountains?
While kinda unrealistic on mars, I woulda loved to see this thing take a couple sand blasting bursts to suggest ten thousand years of sandstorms.
as far as the idea that the crater would be much too deep and frustrating to place models in during gameplay, you could just lean harder into the archeology angle. the mechanicus of the 40K era have only excavated as much of the crater as they needed to view all of the titan wreckage, but haven't bothered digging much further than that into the rock.
I find it hard to believe anyone could complain about the realism of a 40k board. Not only is 40k practically impossible anyway, but even if it isn't possible, it's fucking awesome!
Damn this is amazing! I think it woukd be pretty cool if under the fragments of the titan theres crushed skelitons, or perhaps some dead Horus herasy era marines.
Looking great so far but bit of a gripe wouldn't some sand have built up on the top of the legs over time "meh"
Since the moment I've noticed... I can't unnotice it...
"Deus Tempestus" 🎺 !!!
Thermal transfer is your enemy. Plus aluminum has a coating that has a higher melting point that the metal.
Why didn’t you use plastic rods?
Absolutely majestic.
Any chance of getting the tape version of the logo shirt back on the new store? (My old one the logo ended up eventually washing off.)
MidWinter Minis just finished their titan! do a collab battle report on this board
This looks titanicly awesome
This is beautiful, anazing work
Jen's little 'ooOOooOooh' at the start 😂😂
PAINT ME LIKE ONE OF YOUR ORC BOIS!!!!!
You could had still stayed true to the lore by incorporating magma into the board, it would had looked pretty awesome with some led lighting in the magma sections.
6:00 - MASK!!!
5:50 imagine being their neighbors walking by and seeing this.
The rule of cool! And this is very very cool!
The worst part about this is that I will never to get see this in person for at least a few years, curse you uni!
Glorious! *cheers in titan warhorn*
Yeah it's funny like right before i started this video I learned about atticus spiders you get down under, all I can say is how do you survive lol
Excellent as always
So would would the chipping medium work on say a bloodletter? Blood red underneath and a human skin on top. Just a thought.
Aluminum has a melting temperature of 660 degrees C or 1,221 degrees F. You can melt it with a propane torch, but it’s not easy.
*aluminium
@@patrickbateman69420 whether you favor aluminum melting at 1232 degrees F or favour aluminium melting at 660 degrees C, the statement that it’s melting point is low is incorrect. Yeah, a propane torch can melt it in a pure form, but applying the torch to wires embedded in resin wasn’t going to work.
Does anyone know why they use that funky pressure can with their airbrush and not just a compressor?
It's a battery compressor. Really convenient for quick dirty and non precise airbrush work
You could pay homage to the lava and put some cooled lava flows in the terrain
Use blowtorch for roofing or metal cutting. Then fire works 🔥🔥🔥
wouldnt the melted bits be black like slag leading into a purple hue?
Commentus Tempestus
Replius Tempestus
Would have been awesome to have one or two of the armour panels rusted off and half buried in the sand.
what airbrush is that with the tank attached underneath
What is the brown sculptamold or did you just add paint?
Using UV resin to have random molten glass around explosion and in the trench from the unseen heat might be a nice touch fake Jazza commit saying I won something
It’s my bimpsons! 0:26
yes this is cool as hell but still I got that little pain in the back of my head seein them being destroyed like that xD
Why didn't you use soldering flux?