Bought one a few weeks ago, Took it home with an open mind and went over it with a fine tooth comb, really impressed, solid rifle, fit and finish is excellent. Couldn’t Agree more on the barrel break in, cleaned it right out of the box then shot 50 rnds cheap imi ball ammo, scrubbed barrel and did a few passes with iosso bore paste then went to accuracy testing, AAC 168 matchkings were right at 1 in with 5 shots, hornady 168 hpbt rnds shot a .922 5 shot group then the federal gold medal 168’s shot 2 5 shot groups that were just over .5in. Very impressive rifle, definitely a solid buy!
I picked one of these up a little while back. Mine is the forged .308 version. I have found the same "issues" as you have. I like what PSA has been doing with their stuff.
Ok, an M110 clone review & a two hour James Lindsay interview ? Subscribed. P.S. wish this option was around two years ago when I priced components for one of these. I just built a nice MK12 instead.
I'm glad you found REDACTED. The MK12 still has a legacy, one of those IYKYK firearms. The reviews will certainly continue. James Lindsay brought a great conversation to the channel. An Honor. Both facets are on the table.
I bought the 6.5 Creedmoor billet version. Ran perfect. I did change the flash hider with a VG6 muzzle device that reduces the flash and recoil. Easier on the shoulder. And follow up shots. Also added a Ambi magazine release. Ringing steel at three hundred was so easy. Now to take it out to a thousand.
Do it! Do it and tell me what you think! I went with the .308 simply out of prior experience with the M110, and wanted to see if the Sabre-10 nailed the feel and function. So far so good.
Not Blast. Shoot 5 rounds. run a bore snake through with a dab of oil. Repeat for 50 rounds. Let the rifle cool. Zero with Match ammo. Run a cleaning rod through the barrel until clean following the direction of travel of the bullet. Repeat 5 rounds with bore-snake between each set with another 50. Confirm Zero with Match ammo and compare the shot group to your zero group. Should be good with that. It worked for me.
@redactedllc mostly stock outside of a muzzle brake and potentially a suppressor later on. I do have a rubber butt pad coming in, and I might eventually swap to a magpul PRS stock.
I would like you to compare it to the PA-10 Gen 3. I have the Palmetto PA-10 gen 3. It averages 1.25 moa with Freedom Munitions. I have been at 1 moa and better many times. It has 17 adjustable gas positions. I think this gives it a major advantage since 308 ammo can have very wide variances of energy. Most of the time I shoot in in 1 of the first 3 positions out of 17 in order to get minimum recoil without needing a muzzle brake. AR-10 are all about the gas system. That's going to Make It or Break It. Ruger SFAR needs a gen 2 to fix it.
I don't really have any experience with the PA-10. This was one of my first PSA firearms. That being said, the Sabre-10 didn't have an impressive gas block, but it had a reasonably functional one, reliable throughout the process.
picked up a pa10 gen 3 before the sabers came out and am satisfied it has a 20" heavy SS barrel and groups 1 to 2 moa with match and 3 moa with m80 ball . Some federal xm80c shot better than other m80 ball 1.5 2 moa shocked me bought at Walmart in 40 round white box .....
With the new griffin MGL series KAC clone cans it’s only gonna make these keep selling. I’m very tempted to grab that can a gas block and grab the Sabre
If you're really going to tune the Sabre-10, a new block would go a long way. The "stock" Sabre-10 block gets the job done, and reasonably, but you can get a finer tuning for sure.
@@redactedllc Well you'd have to have a new block to mount the MGL110. So it would be a necessity. I think one guy on insta is making them but it's like $300 a block
SInce we can expect the Sabre-10 to keep selling as it's a good product, it might be an opportunity to help businesses who make products to support the platform. What companies are making the blocks?
God Bless JJE/PSA. They're saving us, saving the U.S. of A. Most people have no clue the good JJE is doing through their practices and policies. BTW, I own one. I broke mine in, in a similar fashion. After 350 rounds I started handloading for it and now it's sub MOA, like butter .... with Arken glass. Best value for the dollar in a 600-1000 meter AR platform in the world imho. Anyways, #RLTW #AATW. I may try some of your upgrades ... really can't go wrong with the ones you recommend except for the glass (cost for the platform).
@@redactedllc I'm definitely going to try that stock, if I can find one. Muzzle brake I went a different route because I have a Q Thunder Chicken mounted on mine so .... Cherry Bomb and then whatever mood I am in on top of that but it's usually the Thunder Chicken.
@@redactedllc The first round pop is as tame or tamer than any of my other 30 cans. The QTC is the Maserati of 30 cal cans imho. It's crazy quiet on 300 BLK platforms as well.
It's rated for 5.56. It can handle the larger caliber, but not at the same fire rate and you must accept that it may give way if you're blowing through rounds with a SCAR 17.
I gotnone of their PA 10 ar 10 as blemd upper and lower and thing it was under 700 tax and shipped(shipping was free). After a couple 20rd pmags, and transfer fee it was just under 800. Put a different stock on it, grip, bipod and 4-16× pa optic and a lantac dragon break with keymo. Thing shoots 1 moa all day with pretty inexpensive 308. Usually federal 150gr sp is consistent 1 moa or less, but some of aac ammo runs similar. Only thing other than that I've needed to do was change buffer out for a heavier one for ejection, despite the gas block being adjustable. But under 1500 in it for all the things, including a 2 stage trigger and a couple more mags. Thing shoots great and results are more than satisfying
Bought one a few weeks ago, Took it home with an open mind and went over it with a fine tooth comb, really impressed, solid rifle, fit and finish is excellent. Couldn’t Agree more on the barrel break in, cleaned it right out of the box then shot 50 rnds cheap imi ball ammo, scrubbed barrel and did a few passes with iosso bore paste then went to accuracy testing, AAC 168 matchkings were right at 1 in with 5 shots, hornady 168 hpbt rnds shot a .922 5 shot group then the federal gold medal 168’s shot 2 5 shot groups that were just over .5in. Very impressive rifle, definitely a solid buy!
Palmetto. State Armory did great with this one. They deserve the credit.
I picked one of these up a little while back. Mine is the forged .308 version. I have found the same "issues" as you have. I like what PSA has been doing with their stuff.
Glad to hear the forged receiver set remains true to form.
The issues weren't killer, just worthy of note.
PSA is doing good work and it shows.
Ok, an M110 clone review & a two hour James Lindsay interview ? Subscribed.
P.S. wish this option was around two years ago when I priced components for one of these. I just built a nice MK12 instead.
I'm glad you found REDACTED.
The MK12 still has a legacy, one of those IYKYK firearms.
The reviews will certainly continue. James Lindsay brought a great conversation to the channel. An Honor. Both facets are on the table.
Your small talk is totally useless....if you cant make your point under 10 min. Get another job
You earned my sub. Hope this channel blows up in popularity
awe shucks, thank you.
more review style content on the way.
I bought the 6.5 Creedmoor billet version. Ran perfect. I did change the flash hider with a VG6 muzzle device that reduces the flash and recoil. Easier on the shoulder. And follow up shots. Also added a Ambi magazine release. Ringing steel at three hundred was so easy. Now to take it out to a thousand.
Do it! Do it and tell me what you think!
I went with the .308 simply out of prior experience with the M110, and wanted to see if the Sabre-10 nailed the feel and function. So far so good.
I just got one. Do I just blast 70+ rounds of ball through it before zeroing with match ammo?
Not Blast. Shoot 5 rounds. run a bore snake through with a dab of oil. Repeat for 50 rounds. Let the rifle cool. Zero with Match ammo. Run a cleaning rod through the barrel until clean following the direction of travel of the bullet. Repeat 5 rounds with bore-snake between each set with another 50. Confirm Zero with Match ammo and compare the shot group to your zero group. Should be good with that. It worked for me.
@ I was NOT expecting such a quick response, thanks! That definitely earned a subscribe. I’m picking it up tomorrow, I’ll definitely try that.
awesome, thank you
This looks awesome
You look awesome lifting that big rock.
I actually just picked mine up the other day but haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but in terms of fit and finish, it functions perfectly fine.
PSA did good overall. Are you keeping it stock or swapping parts?
@redactedllc mostly stock outside of a muzzle brake and potentially a suppressor later on. I do have a rubber butt pad coming in, and I might eventually swap to a magpul PRS stock.
The stock swap was well worth it. I was happy with the B5, but Magpul does good too. Being able to adjust length of pull fixed a few problems as well.
I agree that the buffer system needs replacing. What aero system did you go with?
308 Carbine Buffer, Spring, and Tube with a Law Tactical Folder.
I would like to see an episode like this on the spa jakl !!!
Good News, it's in the works
@@redactedllc I can’t wait to see it !!!!!
I would watch that vid as well !! I can’t wait to see it
If you want a Ambi bolt release /bad lever ..the phase 5 bad lever works with the jakl and I got a vid about it on my channel !!!
@@practicalcivilian3259 shoot that solves one of my biggest problems with the jakl hmm I might have to get that !!
Can the barrel be swapped out for aftermarket ones?
Yes.
I would like you to compare it to the PA-10 Gen 3.
I have the Palmetto PA-10 gen 3. It averages 1.25 moa with Freedom Munitions. I have been at 1 moa and better many times.
It has 17 adjustable gas positions. I think this gives it a major advantage since 308 ammo can have very wide variances of energy. Most of the time I shoot in in 1 of the first 3 positions out of 17 in order to get minimum recoil without needing a muzzle brake.
AR-10 are all about the gas system. That's going to Make It or Break It. Ruger SFAR needs a gen 2 to fix it.
I don't really have any experience with the PA-10. This was one of my first PSA firearms.
That being said, the Sabre-10 didn't have an impressive gas block, but it had a reasonably functional one, reliable throughout the process.
What flip- to-side mount is that IR sitting on?
That's a FTS mount sold by AGM.
picked up a pa10 gen 3 before the sabers came out and am satisfied it has a 20" heavy SS barrel and groups 1 to 2 moa with match and 3 moa with m80 ball . Some federal xm80c shot better than other m80 ball 1.5 2 moa shocked me bought at Walmart in 40 round white box .....
Marksmanship and related equipment continues to be part science, and part alchemy.
What kinda magnification you running through that StingIR before it becomes unusable?
It gets tough when pushing past 10x.
@@redactedllc 384 or 640?
640
With the new griffin MGL series KAC clone cans it’s only gonna make these keep selling. I’m very tempted to grab that can a gas block and grab the Sabre
If you're really going to tune the Sabre-10, a new block would go a long way. The "stock" Sabre-10 block gets the job done, and reasonably, but you can get a finer tuning for sure.
@@redactedllc Well you'd have to have a new block to mount the MGL110. So it would be a necessity. I think one guy on insta is making them but it's like $300 a block
SInce we can expect the Sabre-10 to keep selling as it's a good product, it might be an opportunity to help businesses who make products to support the platform.
What companies are making the blocks?
God Bless JJE/PSA. They're saving us, saving the U.S. of A. Most people have no clue the good JJE is doing through their practices and policies. BTW, I own one. I broke mine in, in a similar fashion. After 350 rounds I started handloading for it and now it's sub MOA, like butter .... with Arken glass. Best value for the dollar in a 600-1000 meter AR platform in the world imho. Anyways, #RLTW #AATW. I may try some of your upgrades ... really can't go wrong with the ones you recommend except for the glass (cost for the platform).
I had access to some higher cost gear.
The muzzle brake / stock combo really improved my time with the rifle. the B5 stock went a long way.
@@redactedllc I'm definitely going to try that stock, if I can find one. Muzzle brake I went a different route because I have a Q Thunder Chicken mounted on mine so .... Cherry Bomb and then whatever mood I am in on top of that but it's usually the Thunder Chicken.
How's the first round pop on that thunder chicken? Been interested in more of the light reduction as of late, more so than sound.
@@redactedllc The first round pop is as tame or tamer than any of my other 30 cans. The QTC is the Maserati of 30 cal cans imho. It's crazy quiet on 300 BLK platforms as well.
How many rounds of .308 do you have with the StingIR on? Its only rated for 5.56
I was curious about this too, initially wanted to do the same setup until I saw their disclaimer.
It's rated for 5.56. It can handle the larger caliber, but not at the same fire rate and you must accept that it may give way if you're blowing through rounds with a SCAR 17.
less than 100 with the Sting IR included. The StingIR held out, but I knew I was playing with fire.
I gotnone of their PA 10 ar 10 as blemd upper and lower and thing it was under 700 tax and shipped(shipping was free). After a couple 20rd pmags, and transfer fee it was just under 800. Put a different stock on it, grip, bipod and 4-16× pa optic and a lantac dragon break with keymo. Thing shoots 1 moa all day with pretty inexpensive 308. Usually federal 150gr sp is consistent 1 moa or less, but some of aac ammo runs similar. Only thing other than that I've needed to do was change buffer out for a heavier one for ejection, despite the gas block being adjustable. But under 1500 in it for all the things, including a 2 stage trigger and a couple more mags.
Thing shoots great and results are more than satisfying
PSA deserves recognition for what they've accomplished.
What front optic is this?
The thermal is a StingIR by AGM global.
The Scope is a Vortex Razor LHT HD 4.5-22.
the Small Red Dot is a Lead and Steel Pandora PB-3.
@redactedllc I thought the sting ir's were only rated for 223 recoil? Oops i see you've already commented on this.
Yeah, mybad.
Alright 17 lbs of sickness.
My shoulders hurt.
Those contacts look so real most people you can tell are wearing contacts but with his you’d actually think his eyes are naturally blue….
Heaven forbid a man be Swedish.
For what it’s worth they’re supposed to be releasing one with a B5 folding stock
I can confirm that this is in the works.
Thing is haaawt
No, You're Hawwwwt.
Needs paint
@texasplinking had som undergasing issues
I didn't but I could rotate the gas block adjustment nob too far.