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Picked up an S3Ultra and its amazing thus far! Sharpness is awesome, regardless of ACF, barely can find layer lines anywhere! Thanks for your fantastic info and hard work!
I’ve got the m5s for 400 with 1kg of fast resin and 2 air pure filters and was planing to return it. But I gave it a chance and after some calibration tests I’ve got incredible results. Even with the ugly acf semi transparent film. No idea why. But good surprise.
out of curiosity, what settings did you go with? i picked up the M5s as well with the fast resin, and also grabbed an extra vat with nfep incase i want better quality.
I have been in LOVE with this series of reviews! I feel like you give very detailed reviews without nitpicking, and the way you edit the videos is the visual equivalent of cutting butter (smooth). I'm already a big elegoo fan, but this just solidified it, I'm totally saving up to get the 3 ultra!
I have the Saturn 3 ultra and i like it, Wifi was a big selling point for me as i hate those little usb drives that fail anyways. I did have a fep failure and I am about to try the fep from the saturn 3 myself to see if i can see the difference (I prefer quality over speed anyways). Thanks for the comparison video!
Finally, the comparisons we've been hungering for! Thanks for the video. I'm kind of glad I don't live in the UK and am thus immune to the desire to try Wargamer resin. Can't be envious if it's impossible to have it.
Very good comparison video, it sure does look like the Ultra has the upper hand here. I have the M5s on a deal and seems to be nice for my larger prints. I have had no issues with Wifi, worked right away out the box in my garage, picked up wifi in the house fine too.
@@MsDokaman I think it goes without saying much other than the Saturn 3. The extensive tests show that the M5s is not all that sharp in details however either will be good as I have done some very detailed prints. The speed thing is not worth it as without the expensive resin for it, its hit n miss pushing the speeds up.
I’ve had any Anycubic for years. Could never get the prints to be super nice quality with finer details and sharper edges. No matter how much fine tuning I did. I was thinking of going to a different brand and this convinced me to do so lol
I love my anycubic photon 3 premium what I don’t love is them not have replacement screens available, unfortunately it was my first and will most likely be my last anycubic printers. I’ve had zero issues with it and it’s actually my first printer. Thanks to you and a few other in the community I was able to get my poop in a pile and print some good quality minis. Thanks for your content it is appreciated 👍🏻👌🏻🍻 keep it up !
I stuck with the M5S, and with ACF didn't had failures of sticking to it or not sticking to the plate, with the settings they offer on the AC website. I did get fast and succesful prints at 30um an 50um with AC ABS-Like, i had it set to 2.6s exposure, an 360mm/min lift speed, so most likely it was maxed out at whatever the motor speed was and printed fine. But as said here and every review the ACF leaves a small texture all over the print, it is barely visible imo, but it does affect some small details that might affect some minis. for bigger prints, and especially mechanical/engineering stuff, i dont really see it as a big negative Once I switched to nFEP i had to drop the lift speed to around 60-100mm/min, same exposure times, but more failures because the nFEP at this area size is way stickier than ACF. I did preorder it so i got it for 420$, hence way i stuck with it, Saturn 5(ultra) had more expensive pre-orders
I for one, absolutely thank you for your raw honesty in reviewing the printers, and telling me what they can do, what they do really well, and areas they are lacking. This helps me TREMENDOUSLY to choose 'which resin is right for my desires?" - and spot on, I have a hard time finding others that will be this critical and do this level of testing. So thank you. When I do buy my printer, whatever it may be, I will find a way to get some money to you, be it an affiliate link, or a donation or whatever. I am still a ways off picking which one, but you 100% are helping me. -- side note I get terrible buyers remorse on things like this, so I tend to take a long time to pick one, and by the time I got around to resins, 3 more generation of resin printers came out that were ALL better than my previous selections, so it is a slow process. Few questions Remain though: Can you use the Deeper Vat from the Anycubic- on the Saturn 3 Ultra? The geometry of the elegoo's seem identicle, are their red and black hoods exchangable? (I'd personally want a red hood, but this is such a minor thing) Other than that, for these particular printers... I am leaning on the Ultra. Now I just have to compare that with some others that have like, heated chambers for vat warming... and if that is something I will need, and the like.
Great last and definitive review!! it help me a lot to get my decision, sadly the saturn 3 ultra doesn't arrive in my country, but still will get the saturn 3. Thanks!
Impressive review you've made of this lineup of printers, you've helped me a lot to renew my printing farm. I already had it clear that Elegoo was currently ahead in quality, but after this video, I'm taking a few Elegoo Saturn 3 12k.
buckled after watching these videos for 2 months. Saturn 3 via affliate link. Thank you so much for all your time doing these videos. P.S. We need that Wargamer Resin in the states.
I sell printers for a living and one reason I sell a lot more Anycubic than Elegoo is that you can often get Anycubic well below the recommended or official prices. Also, something you will never get from reviews is that I get more customer returns on Elegoo printers. If the Saturn 2 has the Fresnel lens, then I will be taking another look at those.
@@magomedsamadov4109, I chuckled at your comment at first. Then I re-read what the original comment said and I disagree with your assessment. I believe they sell both Anycubic and Elegoo and simply conveying their experience at this specific location.
@@cr8fconclave But his experience is basically meaningless. How many does he sell of Anycubic, and how many Elegoo? What type of users is he selling to, are they proficient or dum-dums? WHY are they returned? Broken? Unsatisfied? Non-payment? There are MANY reasons for returns, not all of them due to the product being of bad quality! Just saying "more returns on Elegoo" tells you absolutely nothing. Plus, even though he sells both, there may still be bias towards Anycubic. Because: how much profit does he make from an Anycubic sale vs an Elegoo sale? Is he sponsored in some way? Does Anycubic give him better kick-backs? His whole statement feels very biased towards Anycubic to me... Questions, questions ;-)
Very good comparison and I especially like that you point out that this 8K, 12K, 14K marketing blaablaa is ridiculous as the real pixel size counts for details. And it is always good to mention that the resin does have a great impact on your print quality just like the filament quality for FDM printer. Thanks for the video.
i have watched so many of your videos and I don't even have a printer... I might not even buy one for a year or more, because I am moving 6,000 miles away from where I currently live in the next year, but I figured, "here is my comment". Keep making videos, i will eventually get into the hobby... to support my other hobby.
5:00 - Anycubic Photon M5s имеет металлическое шасси из литого алюминия сложной конструктивной формы внутри с ребрами жесткости. Я разбирал данный принтер и знаю, что говорю. Пластиковый корпус - это не несущая конструкция этого принтера. Все внутренние элементы принтера закреплены к этому шасси. 26:44 - Anycubic Photon M5s имеет так же контроль мощности двигателя. Это позволяет принтеру определять количество смолы , залитой в ванночку и выводить предупреждение, если объем смолы недостаточен при печати. Так же контроль мощности позволяет определять заклинивание оси Z и останавливать печать при неисправности движения. Но, всё же, драйвер шагового двигателя не имеет контроль пропуска шагов, так что есть еще, к чему стремиться.
Just got my first 3d printer ever today (Saturn 3) and cant wait to start printing, im so excited! Thanks for helping me in choosing my first printer Fauxhammer :)
I've got a small print farm going and it was getting a bit much for my 2 mono 2's fomoed on a sat3u that came up on eBay and the wireless/speed/build plate increase has been a saviour. The mono 2 is a a+ starter and produces amazing quality to price but the sat3u is a beast.
I bought a Mars2 when they first came out. Was my first resin printer. I'm not buying another until they add screen protection as standard. There is zero reason to have the screen touching the FEP other than being designed to fail. Like most other people, I stuck a second FEP sheet over the screen to protect it... after I realised it was being damaged. Zero loss in quality or extra print failures.
I think for me adhesion with the etched surface was never the issue, I just far prefer flex plate to help ensure I don't accidentally launch a print when scrapping it off the plate. There are sometimes those certain prints that just stick so much harder to the plate, and when they finally release I'd hate to launch a print I just made for someone across the room
I came to the comments as soon as I heard him say that and was shocked how long it took me to find a comment like this one. Could be that there isn't a huge overlap between the two audiences even though 3D printing while watching satirical movie reviews is tight!
Definitely what I'll be going for too. The extra features on the ultra don't seem worth it. Worse film and WiFi is useless for me because it won't be in my home.
very helpful, i was just at the stage you said at the start of the video, chose a printer, and could not decide between 3 and 3 ultra but 3 ultra with PFA filter it is, thanks, keep up the good work
nevermind that, kept watching videos for another 20 hours, from you and some other reviewers, and went with the GKtwo instead, hope i made the right decision, it's almost double the price of the bundle they had for black friday compared with the elegoo bundle@@FauxHammer
Thanks for the video. I'm getting into the market for a resin printer and am now debating one of these vs Uniformation GK2. How would you rate the Uniformation against these 4?
Already purchases the M5s, and so far for me, I'm happy with it. But it looks like I'd be over the moon with the Elegoo. Oh well, next time. Thanks for another great comparison video
I got in early on the M5s at $399 so that's great value for me. Added the M5 vat for when I need detail. I'm not locked in on printing miniatures so the detail in my eyes is amazing
The WIFI connection on the M5s is difficult, but becomes less so after the initial setup. You can save your STLs to your phone, do your final slicing, and send the results directly to the printer. I have had 10-12 consecutive good prints so far using the fast resin. However, the prints are quite brittle, and when I tried to fit pieces together in one of my models, I broke part of the model. I reprinted and it happened again. I am more interested in using apps like Scaniverse to make 3-D models from the phone camera, so I am looking for speed and size. And the M5s seems fine so far; though, I could use more z-height. I have not tried using a third party slicer yet; from the way the monitor app works, I have a notion that if I go through it, I may have to pass everything through its slicer. Could this be? Probably not.... Anyway, the problem with the M5s is the WIFI setup. As for the monitor app, I have heard several people say on UA-cam that there are two apps, one of which works. I don't know which I have, actually. I think I may have the one that is not supposed to work. I will have to look into that.
Just as an FYI, the Anycubic Photon M3 Premium has LRL. I know it's not compared here and I also know they are seemingly dropping support for the m3 premium (Can't find them anywhere) and both my original and replacement screens went out within 6 months of owning the thing.
@@FauxHammer I would agree, though I had 2 screens go bad on me in 6 months. Support said I'm SOL so now I'm weighing whether I buy a new screen or a new brand of printer!
Excellent video, thank you. Definitely helped. I came into this about to pull the trigger on an M5S, but I have changed my mind. Speed is not crucial, for me.
Very good video it really helped me to make a decision to purchase the Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra because it has the largest build plate out of all the printers on the market without having to comprimise the price. Elegoo is selling it to me off of Amazon for $629.00 plus 2 - 1kg of $30.00 resin for free.
I have a monox and a mono x 6k and just got my first elegoo. The ultra and honestly it's better. I love the mono x so dependable, (6k has inconsistencies print to print) But the ultra is great and has so many quality of life features. Granted I have only a half dozen trays off of it.
I was disappointed to learn about the Mars Mate Air purifier. Besides a proper review you have in store for that, can you also tell us if Elegoo offers replacement filters? I was looking for an eternity everywhere online and couldn't find anything. I wasn't going to buy it it until I knew that tidbit. If this one isn't good, I would very much appreciate recommendations.
Thanks for the comparisons you've been making. I'd initially ordered an M5s, but after seeing these vídeos I ordered two Saturn 2 ultras and am probably going to be sending the M5s back when it arrives. Or I might keep it to run a few comparison tests myself, then either sell it cheap to a friend or give into my daughter's to play with so they don't touch my Saturns. I wonder why your vídeos and Vogmans vídeos are almost polar opposites when it comes to the comparison of the M5s and the 3 Ultra. He seems to favor the M5s, and you, the Ultra.
If you do run some comparisons I’d love to heard your experience with whatever resin you use. I stand by my words as I basically just say what I see. But I’m quite isolated when making a summary judgement
I'm kind of an Anycubic "enjoyer" but I still think the Saturn 3 Ultra is definitely the best option here. Barely more expensive but offers everything that makes dealing with a printer less cumbersome. The significantly larger buld height, the actually working wireless file transfer and printer control, the capacitive touchscreen (why is it unique in 2023?!), the ball screw, air filtering capability and better build quality/look easily justifies the price difference. Auto bed leveling in the M5s is nice but I think we don't really need it. I level my printer once a few months and use it without any issues. 22:10 But the M3 premium uses the same LED matrix as the M5/M5s yet offers much sharper results. Those are not like a singular light source you see in the Saturns, therefore they don't need a fresnel lense to collimate the conically projected light from a single point-like source. They are collimated way down right above each LEDs by those thick lense arrays. (Practically doing the same job as the fresnel lense but down there you're not space constrained, you can use normal lenses.) _Flexplates are life, flexplates are love!_ I *love* how easily the models pop off as you bend it and no chiseling is necessary, even with bulky mechanical parts laying flat on the build plate.
Voxeldance Tango slicer does support network sending - but you might need to update to the latest version, rather than the one available from Elegoo and I use the vat (and sheet) from the Saturn 2 on my Saturn 3 Ultra - so I get the best of both worlds - I have a vat with ACF, and one with PFA - depending on if I want speed or sharpness.
Thanks. Now I don't know what printer to buy. :D But maybe is should get the Saturn 3 Ultra. But I can't use you ref links since shareasale links get filtered by almost all privacy filters for a reason...
Let me get this right.... the M5s features of auto-level and print failure detection get over shadowed by the rubber feet on the Saturn?? The print quality is compared between machines using different resins completely even though you state that even the speed of the printer is determined by the resin and NOT the machine. Wouldn't the same be true about the printed item as well??
Well I was gonna reply and say no the features aren’t outweighs by little rubber feet but actually, in reflection, yeah they kinda are. What those feet show is that Elegoo have chosen the right components to build their machine this time round, where Elegoo have cheapened out. As for the resin, yes. The resin is more responsible for speed and quality than the printer. But…! The resin used in the M5 printers is some of the sharpest resin out there. Those test rrsults should have been sharper by that difference alone. But they aren’t. They are softer than all the 8k printers I’ve tested which did use the same resin. Equally, the typically slightly softer resin I used in the Saturn tests turned out sharper than the tests from 8k printers, likely due to the fresnel lense and such. The be all and end all is, the Saturns are clearly much sharper printers than the M5s. It’s clear to me
@@FauxHammer Using Anycubic Photon Workshop allows you to slice and then there's a new button above "slice" that says "Remote Print". Just click and your network printer pops up and you can send quickly over wifi. Been using that instead of trusting that usb of course. Phone app not needed but app can be used to track the print progress and change settings on the fly which is nice tho.
I bought my M5s around the time this video came out and i paid $350. From the price point in the video i knew the review was going to be biased, and i was right. When i made the choice to buy the M5s i knew someone that has a saturn and all he ever did was complain about how it was always failing prints and the build plate ball thing never stayed level. Never had an issue with the M5s, so much so i have also added the M5sPro to my printer collection.
I ordered my saturn 3 ultra before this video came out ( it hasn't arrived yet ) and was a bit worried when I first clicked on the video if I had made the wrong choice but it seems I have made the perfect choice.
I have a creality LD 002R. It fails 9/10 times printing. So I want a new one. My plans was anycubic M5s pro but I don't know anymore. It is a good price on that now.
Just became a member, thanks for the video! Planning on getting the Saturn 3 Ultra for printing and painting miniatures. How does the Saturn 3 hold up against the Mars 4 Ultra or any another $400-$600 Resin printer. This will be my first 3D printer, looking for something somewhat on the easier side of use for beginners. Also Faux where do you like to get your models from?
Welcome!!! Great pick, yeah I’d say the Saturn 3 ultra is the best in that price range easily. Though based on some reports, you may need to replace the ACF film with NFEP film for the best detail. It worked for me and I’ve seen pics from people which echo that statement but others who get lines on their prints… I get most of my models direct from the creators, but MyMiniFactory is one of the best places online
I ended up with a free mars 4 max because it was damaged. it printed great for a couple weeks now im pretty sure the damage has caught up to it and i cant get a successful print at all. so here we are back to the drawing board. this is a really tough choice...or is it? are they both amazing and im lucky to be starting this hobby now instead of 5 years ago? idk what to do :(
That was another great video. Thank you. I can’t wait until I am in a position to get my hand on a resin printer. Still seems really far away but its very valuable information and clarification.
@@FauxHammer I have a very small space for all of this and limited fund. I do have a crappy window in that room, so I first want to replace that window with a vent/filtration system.
Are any of Anycubic's offerings worthwhile? Elegoo and Phrozen do not ship to NZ and I'm not enthusiastic about about paying a reseller a significant markup
between all my purchases I've always been burnt one way or another with Anycubic printers. My M5s will be the last Anycubic printer I buy. Autoleveling sounds amazing until it isn't. While I'm not a big fan of Elegoo's ball joint, you can actually mount it at a 90 degree angle to let resin drop off the build plate. I miss that simple design decision.
@@FauxHammer keep it up that's bad ass, I have a motorcycle I need to 3d print but its FDM and im super scared with that turn out. Supports on my printer suck sometimes
Is the ACF sheet maybe installed incorrectly. Deny did a video of the Phrozen ACF and talked about how the texture should be on the bottom side of the vat and had no issues.
I really wanted to order the mars 4 ultra because of the Pixel size. Also I don't need big print area since I always just print small figures. Buying a bigger printer like saturn 3 ultra means more costs in every aspect. The printer itself but also new films or a new display if something breaks. BUT I do want to best possible quality...so as I understood I should buy the saturn 3 or saturn 3 ultra with extra Film.
I just got the Mars 4 and did the test print… The printer displayed that it “finished” but the print was only about 90% done when I pulled it off the plate… Does the printer automatically set the height parameters for a print from the file or could I possibly have a unintentional height limit set on the machine?? Sorry if my question doesn’t make sense, I have only been doing this for 1 day 😅
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Just wondering, Is there a reason you pour the resin on the build plate or is that just for visuals? Also, I have been printing resin constant since i followed your guide and have had no fails. Ive been using the Sunlu ABS-Like resin and its been great.
Did you say you used PFA on the Ultra? What did you say was the link to that videa and what settings did you use. I had a film failure and replaced my ACF with PFA and would like to see what settings you like. Cheers
In the market to replace my photon D2, is there any reason to try and stick with a dlp printer again?? Bigger build area is enticing, and that Saturn ultra looks pretty decent
Hey Ross, I have read that the Ultra (both saturn and mars) have limits on the lift speed which stop you from slowing them down further. This can mean failure on swapping from ACF to NFEP or PFA because the lift speed won't slow enough for those films. Have you come across this issue?
Apparently the ultras are limited to minimum 100mm/min lift speed that's coded in, and setting it lower doesn't actually change the speed. Reportedly Elegoo are planning a firmware update to fix this. Presumably it was because the Ultras come with ACF. Maybe this was bad information (a few people have posted this on reddit - and there is not a lot of info out given these printers are new). I suppose if it's not causing failure then it's not really of any consequence though. Thanks for the reply!@@FauxHammer
i love my ultra! only the acf died during the 2nd validation matrix bc there was a little fail from the first print left. gotta say i have the nfep vat bought and could just swap out the vat and oh boy the ultra with nfep is just insane (printing wicked3d witcher diorama rn) and elegoo service is amazing too
As I watched this video through. I am in the market for a resin printer a little backstory I am coming from fdm sovol sv06 Plus I was going to purchase a bamboo Labs p1s or X1. However I would really like to make statues that I paint like those of Epic statues what are the trade-offs of getting the larger resin printers? I would like to be able to print a six to eight inch tall statue and I am willing to pay up to 1k for a quality printer that can do that, any recommendations?
Hey FauxHammer. Let's just say a printer for minis between 28-75mm and all I care about is quality and detail. Speed doesn't matter to me. Elagoo, Phrozen or (another brand I might not know) for what I want? I like the comparisons but I would like to know about specifically detail and who right now is the best choice under around $1000
This thing of the larger (deeper) vat.. Can you top up the resin in case you are printing a large model? Is the vat capacity a limiting factor on how large a model you can print?
Thank you.. you should know that I was all set to get the M5s but then at the last minute saw your video and switched to the Saturn3 Ultra, mainly on the basis of the larger potential prints and a few other points that point to a more common sense approach and possibly better "care" of their customer (as evidenced in the rubber feet and similar).. It did not help either that, for EU customers, the "free" resin painting set being given on Black Friday by Anycubic suddenly became "not free" when EU was selected. No reply from their support either since this morning, hence I went ahead with Elegoo which also came highly recommended by people I know who run a very large print farm. Thanks for a fantastic video review, so direct and to the point and containing just the right amount of wit.. and no annoying music.
I ordered an M5S a few days ago and it is on its way...now I am having second thoughts and I am considering returning it for a refund and going for the Saturn 3/Ultra....I don't want to end up with buyers remorse months after the fact....
Hi I am still researching what to buy as I am an N gauge railway modeller, and my son is a v keen Warhammer player/builder, so is also interested. He reccomeded your chjannel and it has been v helpful in educating me as to what I should buy. Please keep up the great content.
This video made me cancel my M5s Pro for the Saturn 3 ultra. I would've love the auto bed leveler and the cleaning system that the m5s provides, but I look forward to the higher quality prints
Just in case, did you keep in mind the fact that Anycubic Mono X needed higher height test cause the initial over exposure? I wonder if that bug remains, if that's the case you'll need to redo some tests, even the RERF that comes with it suffers from that so theres a custom one, it's just thicker. Anyway it's a very informative video, super complete, thanks messenger!! ;)
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Picked up an S3Ultra and its amazing thus far!
Sharpness is awesome, regardless of ACF, barely can find layer lines anywhere!
Thanks for your fantastic info and hard work!
Great to hear!
Are you still rocking the S3U if so how has it been so far?
I’ve got the m5s for 400 with 1kg of fast resin and 2 air pure filters and was planing to return it. But I gave it a chance and after some calibration tests I’ve got incredible results. Even with the ugly acf semi transparent film. No idea why. But good surprise.
out of curiosity, what settings did you go with? i picked up the M5s as well with the fast resin, and also grabbed an extra vat with nfep incase i want better quality.
New challenger approaches, can't wait for Elegoo Saturn 4/ultra reviews in a couple of months
I have been in LOVE with this series of reviews! I feel like you give very detailed reviews without nitpicking, and the way you edit the videos is the visual equivalent of cutting butter (smooth). I'm already a big elegoo fan, but this just solidified it, I'm totally saving up to get the 3 ultra!
Thank you so much!
Fantastic review and comparison!! Thank you for taking the time to put this comparison together.
I have the Saturn 3 ultra and i like it, Wifi was a big selling point for me as i hate those little usb drives that fail anyways. I did have a fep failure and I am about to try the fep from the saturn 3 myself to see if i can see the difference (I prefer quality over speed anyways). Thanks for the comparison video!
Finally, the comparisons we've been hungering for! Thanks for the video. I'm kind of glad I don't live in the UK and am thus immune to the desire to try Wargamer resin. Can't be envious if it's impossible to have it.
We’ll get it to EU & US ASAP
Great review. I appreciate the breakdown across 4 printers.
Thanks I love doing stuff like this
Very good comparison video, it sure does look like the Ultra has the upper hand here. I have the M5s on a deal and seems to be nice for my larger prints. I have had no issues with Wifi, worked right away out the box in my garage, picked up wifi in the house fine too.
Same. I don't think he's doing the WiFi correctly. Also the detail is stunning even on tiny tiny prints.
Please tell me which one is better for jewelry and small details?
@@MsDokaman I think it goes without saying much other than the Saturn 3. The extensive tests show that the M5s is not all that sharp in details however either will be good as I have done some very detailed prints. The speed thing is not worth it as without the expensive resin for it, its hit n miss pushing the speeds up.
I’ve had any Anycubic for years. Could never get the prints to be super nice quality with finer details and sharper edges. No matter how much fine tuning I did. I was thinking of going to a different brand and this convinced me to do so lol
I love my anycubic photon 3 premium what I don’t love is them not have replacement screens available, unfortunately it was my first and will most likely be my last anycubic printers. I’ve had zero issues with it and it’s actually my first printer. Thanks to you and a few other in the community I was able to get my poop in a pile and print some good quality minis. Thanks for your content it is appreciated 👍🏻👌🏻🍻 keep it up !
I stuck with the M5S, and with ACF didn't had failures of sticking to it or not sticking to the plate, with the settings they offer on the AC website. I did get fast and succesful prints at 30um an 50um with AC ABS-Like, i had it set to 2.6s exposure, an 360mm/min lift speed, so most likely it was maxed out at whatever the motor speed was and printed fine.
But as said here and every review the ACF leaves a small texture all over the print, it is barely visible imo, but it does affect some small details that might affect some minis. for bigger prints, and especially mechanical/engineering stuff, i dont really see it as a big negative
Once I switched to nFEP i had to drop the lift speed to around 60-100mm/min, same exposure times, but more failures because the nFEP at this area size is way stickier than ACF.
I did preorder it so i got it for 420$, hence way i stuck with it, Saturn 5(ultra) had more expensive pre-orders
I didnt think it was posible to get such speeds from ABS like, can you share the resin profile for photon workshop please?
I for one, absolutely thank you for your raw honesty in reviewing the printers, and telling me what they can do, what they do really well, and areas they are lacking. This helps me TREMENDOUSLY to choose 'which resin is right for my desires?" - and spot on, I have a hard time finding others that will be this critical and do this level of testing.
So thank you. When I do buy my printer, whatever it may be, I will find a way to get some money to you, be it an affiliate link, or a donation or whatever. I am still a ways off picking which one, but you 100% are helping me.
-- side note I get terrible buyers remorse on things like this, so I tend to take a long time to pick one, and by the time I got around to resins, 3 more generation of resin printers came out that were ALL better than my previous selections, so it is a slow process.
Few questions Remain though:
Can you use the Deeper Vat from the Anycubic- on the Saturn 3 Ultra?
The geometry of the elegoo's seem identicle, are their red and black hoods exchangable? (I'd personally want a red hood, but this is such a minor thing)
Other than that, for these particular printers... I am leaning on the Ultra. Now I just have to compare that with some others that have like, heated chambers for vat warming... and if that is something I will need, and the like.
Great last and definitive review!! it help me a lot to get my decision, sadly the saturn 3 ultra doesn't arrive in my country, but still will get the saturn 3. Thanks!
Glad I could help! Thank you for your kind words
I've been bouncing back and fourth with my decision between the M5s and the Saturn 3 Ultra. Thank you for this review!
Impressive review you've made of this lineup of printers, you've helped me a lot to renew my printing farm. I already had it clear that Elegoo was currently ahead in quality, but after this video, I'm taking a few Elegoo Saturn 3 12k.
Glad I could help! i would love it if you would use my affiliate links! and Thank you
Wonderful review! Definitely going for Elegoo Ultra!
buckled after watching these videos for 2 months. Saturn 3 via affliate link. Thank you so much for all your time doing these videos. P.S. We need that Wargamer Resin in the states.
Thanks for the review and avoid buying crappy addons !
I have invested in a good room ventilation.
I sell printers for a living and one reason I sell a lot more Anycubic than Elegoo is that you can often get Anycubic well below the recommended or official prices. Also, something you will never get from reviews is that I get more customer returns on Elegoo printers. If the Saturn 2 has the Fresnel lens, then I will be taking another look at those.
Do you know what vat tanks are compatible with Saturn 3 ultra? Is Saturn 2 vat compatible to 3 ultra? Thank you!
Раз Ввы зарабатываете продажами Anykubik то в Ваших интересах говорить плохо про Elegoo
@@magomedsamadov4109, I chuckled at your comment at first. Then I re-read what the original comment said and I disagree with your assessment. I believe they sell both Anycubic and Elegoo and simply conveying their experience at this specific location.
that's really interesting
@@cr8fconclave But his experience is basically meaningless. How many does he sell of Anycubic, and how many Elegoo? What type of users is he selling to, are they proficient or dum-dums?
WHY are they returned? Broken? Unsatisfied? Non-payment? There are MANY reasons for returns, not all of them due to the product being of bad quality!
Just saying "more returns on Elegoo" tells you absolutely nothing. Plus, even though he sells both, there may still be bias towards Anycubic. Because: how much profit does he make from an Anycubic sale vs an Elegoo sale? Is he sponsored in some way? Does Anycubic give him better kick-backs?
His whole statement feels very biased towards Anycubic to me...
Questions, questions ;-)
Very good comparison and I especially like that you point out that this 8K, 12K, 14K marketing blaablaa is ridiculous as the real pixel size counts for details. And it is always good to mention that the resin does have a great impact on your print quality just like the filament quality for FDM printer. Thanks for the video.
i have watched so many of your videos and I don't even have a printer... I might not even buy one for a year or more, because I am moving 6,000 miles away from where I currently live in the next year, but I figured, "here is my comment". Keep making videos, i will eventually get into the hobby... to support my other hobby.
I understand and thanks so much for watching, even without a printer. Hope the move goes well
5:00 - Anycubic Photon M5s имеет металлическое шасси из литого алюминия сложной конструктивной формы внутри с ребрами жесткости. Я разбирал данный принтер и знаю, что говорю. Пластиковый корпус - это не несущая конструкция этого принтера. Все внутренние элементы принтера закреплены к этому шасси.
26:44 - Anycubic Photon M5s имеет так же контроль мощности двигателя. Это позволяет принтеру определять количество смолы , залитой в ванночку и выводить предупреждение, если объем смолы недостаточен при печати. Так же контроль мощности позволяет определять заклинивание оси Z и останавливать печать при неисправности движения. Но, всё же, драйвер шагового двигателя не имеет контроль пропуска шагов, так что есть еще, к чему стремиться.
Just got my first 3d printer ever today (Saturn 3) and cant wait to start printing, im so excited!
Thanks for helping me in choosing my first printer Fauxhammer :)
I've got a small print farm going and it was getting a bit much for my 2 mono 2's fomoed on a sat3u that came up on eBay and the wireless/speed/build plate increase has been a saviour.
The mono 2 is a a+ starter and produces amazing quality to price but the sat3u is a beast.
I bought a Mars2 when they first came out. Was my first resin printer. I'm not buying another until they add screen protection as standard. There is zero reason to have the screen touching the FEP other than being designed to fail.
Like most other people, I stuck a second FEP sheet over the screen to protect it... after I realised it was being damaged. Zero loss in quality or extra print failures.
I hope to confirm that choosing the Saturn 3 Ultra is a good choice for high-precision printing.
I think for me adhesion with the etched surface was never the issue, I just far prefer flex plate to help ensure I don't accidentally launch a print when scrapping it off the plate. There are sometimes those certain prints that just stick so much harder to the plate, and when they finally release I'd hate to launch a print I just made for someone across the room
I agree with you: I don’t care what ppl say, but I love my flex plate!
I'm with you. I have a flex plate on my Mono 6k and I would hate to lose it. It will be the first thing I buy on a new printer.
Yes, the carbon filters do remove VOC, I have tested it by measuring the VOC in the air before and after.
Great video and channel! Wanted to correct a thing, OG Anycubic Photon was full metal body and had LRL. I still love mine!
Gotta throw your props for the Pitch Meeting reference. Its super easy, barely an inconvenience.
I came to the comments as soon as I heard him say that and was shocked how long it took me to find a comment like this one. Could be that there isn't a huge overlap between the two audiences even though 3D printing while watching satirical movie reviews is tight!
When is the Wargamer Resin coming to the US?!
exactly what i needed. Thank you Faux, great work!
i bought saturn 3 ultra ,, im very satisfied , very fast print , stable linear no printlines and good UI screen .
I bought a Saturn 3 based on your previous videos. Glad to see further confirmation that I made the right choice based on my printing needs.
Definitely what I'll be going for too. The extra features on the ultra don't seem worth it. Worse film and WiFi is useless for me because it won't be in my home.
Thanks so much for this thorough comparison.
15:27 you know you can just highlight select all the parts and click arrange in the toolbar and it does that for you right?
I do now. but it;s often crap and puts them out of bounds
I literally want none of these now due to this review. Good job
Hahah. What did you go first then?
@@FauxHammer I was thinking any cubic initially. Great price ect
@@hoohaa559so many people get got by that…
If you are on a budget, check out the newer Saturn 4 printers
very helpful, i was just at the stage you said at the start of the video, chose a printer, and could not decide between 3 and 3 ultra
but 3 ultra with PFA filter it is, thanks, keep up the good work
You went for the best choice I see. glad this was helpful.
nevermind that, kept watching videos for another 20 hours, from you and some other reviewers, and went with the GKtwo instead, hope i made the right decision, it's almost double the price of the bundle they had for black friday compared with the elegoo bundle@@FauxHammer
Thanks for the video. I'm getting into the market for a resin printer and am now debating one of these vs Uniformation GK2. How would you rate the Uniformation against these 4?
Already purchases the M5s, and so far for me, I'm happy with it.
But it looks like I'd be over the moon with the Elegoo. Oh well, next time. Thanks for another great comparison video
Thanks mate, The M5 is still a good printer, it's just not as sharp
I got in early on the M5s at $399 so that's great value for me. Added the M5 vat for when I need detail. I'm not locked in on printing miniatures so the detail in my eyes is amazing
Right on. And yeah that is a steal of a price to be honest, Iike I said in the intro, None of them are "bad" printers.
@@FauxHammer I'm just waiting for AC to announce a retrofit fresnel lense and then we'll be sorted
This video helped me decide for one printer like no other! Thanks very much.
Glad I could help!
The WIFI connection on the M5s is difficult, but becomes less so after the initial setup. You can save your STLs to your phone, do your final slicing, and send the results directly to the printer. I have had 10-12 consecutive good prints so far using the fast resin. However, the prints are quite brittle, and when I tried to fit pieces together in one of my models, I broke part of the model. I reprinted and it happened again.
I am more interested in using apps like Scaniverse to make 3-D models from the phone camera, so I am looking for speed and size. And the M5s seems fine so far; though, I could use more z-height.
I have not tried using a third party slicer yet; from the way the monitor app works, I have a notion that if I go through it, I may have to pass everything through its slicer. Could this be? Probably not....
Anyway, the problem with the M5s is the WIFI setup. As for the monitor app, I have heard several people say on UA-cam that there are two apps, one of which works. I don't know which I have, actually. I think I may have the one that is not supposed to work. I will have to look into that.
Just as an FYI, the Anycubic Photon M3 Premium has LRL. I know it's not compared here and I also know they are seemingly dropping support for the m3 premium (Can't find them anywhere) and both my original and replacement screens went out within 6 months of owning the thing.
yeah the M3 Premium was an incredible printer, they canned it far too early
@@FauxHammer I would agree, though I had 2 screens go bad on me in 6 months. Support said I'm SOL so now I'm weighing whether I buy a new screen or a new brand of printer!
i reaaaally needed this video, thanks
Excellent video, thank you. Definitely helped. I came into this about to pull the trigger on an M5S, but I have changed my mind. Speed is not crucial, for me.
Very good video it really helped me to make a decision to purchase the Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra because it has the largest build plate out of all the printers on the market without having to comprimise the price.
Elegoo is selling it to me off of Amazon for $629.00 plus 2 - 1kg of $30.00 resin for free.
gald it helped. but before you wade in, have you seen the Saturn 4?
I have a monox and a mono x 6k and just got my first elegoo. The ultra and honestly it's better. I love the mono x so dependable, (6k has inconsistencies print to print) But the ultra is great and has so many quality of life features. Granted I have only a half dozen trays off of it.
I was disappointed to learn about the Mars Mate Air purifier. Besides a proper review you have in store for that, can you also tell us if Elegoo offers replacement filters? I was looking for an eternity everywhere online and couldn't find anything. I wasn't going to buy it it until I knew that tidbit. If this one isn't good, I would very much appreciate recommendations.
Not so far nope, and that’s another point covered in my review
Thanks for the comparisons you've been making. I'd initially ordered an M5s, but after seeing these vídeos I ordered two Saturn 2 ultras and am probably going to be sending the M5s back when it arrives. Or I might keep it to run a few comparison tests myself, then either sell it cheap to a friend or give into my daughter's to play with so they don't touch my Saturns.
I wonder why your vídeos and Vogmans vídeos are almost polar opposites when it comes to the comparison of the M5s and the 3 Ultra. He seems to favor the M5s, and you, the Ultra.
If you do run some comparisons I’d love to heard your experience with whatever resin you use. I stand by my words as I basically just say what I see. But I’m quite isolated when making a summary judgement
the one who paid for a dinner later is the one who dancing a lady :)
@FauxHammer and community
How would the Anycubic Photon Mono M5s Pro stack up to these elegoo's??
I'm kind of an Anycubic "enjoyer" but I still think the Saturn 3 Ultra is definitely the best option here. Barely more expensive but offers everything that makes dealing with a printer less cumbersome. The significantly larger buld height, the actually working wireless file transfer and printer control, the capacitive touchscreen (why is it unique in 2023?!), the ball screw, air filtering capability and better build quality/look easily justifies the price difference. Auto bed leveling in the M5s is nice but I think we don't really need it. I level my printer once a few months and use it without any issues.
22:10 But the M3 premium uses the same LED matrix as the M5/M5s yet offers much sharper results. Those are not like a singular light source you see in the Saturns, therefore they don't need a fresnel lense to collimate the conically projected light from a single point-like source. They are collimated way down right above each LEDs by those thick lense arrays. (Practically doing the same job as the fresnel lense but down there you're not space constrained, you can use normal lenses.)
_Flexplates are life, flexplates are love!_ I *love* how easily the models pop off as you bend it and no chiseling is necessary, even with bulky mechanical parts laying flat on the build plate.
Any chance of reviewing the Creality?
Voxeldance Tango slicer does support network sending - but you might need to update to the latest version, rather than the one available from Elegoo
and I use the vat (and sheet) from the Saturn 2 on my Saturn 3 Ultra - so I get the best of both worlds - I have a vat with ACF, and one with PFA - depending on if I want speed or sharpness.
Ah, as I said, I’m not a fan of that software so haven’t even bothered looking that hard
22:14- A subliminal message to Anycubic response xD xD xD , nice one Ross
This was more blatant in the M5s video where I used it after quoting their response.
But you were the first to spot it and comment!
Thanks. Now I don't know what printer to buy. :D But maybe is should get the Saturn 3 Ultra. But I can't use you ref links since shareasale links get filtered by almost all privacy filters for a reason...
Let me get this right.... the M5s features of auto-level and print failure detection get over shadowed by the rubber feet on the Saturn?? The print quality is compared between machines using different resins completely even though you state that even the speed of the printer is determined by the resin and NOT the machine. Wouldn't the same be true about the printed item as well??
Well I was gonna reply and say no the features aren’t outweighs by little rubber feet but actually, in reflection, yeah they kinda are.
What those feet show is that Elegoo have chosen the right components to build their machine this time round, where Elegoo have cheapened out.
As for the resin, yes. The resin is more responsible for speed and quality than the printer. But…!
The resin used in the M5 printers is some of the sharpest resin out there. Those test rrsults should have been sharper by that difference alone. But they aren’t. They are softer than all the 8k printers I’ve tested which did use the same resin.
Equally, the typically slightly softer resin I used in the Saturn tests turned out sharper than the tests from 8k printers, likely due to the fresnel lense and such.
The be all and end all is, the Saturns are clearly much sharper printers than the M5s. It’s clear to me
12:16 is incorrect. you can slice and send directly to the printer. no need for the phone app and you aren't limited to the files on their store
Had no idea, how?
@@FauxHammer Using Anycubic Photon Workshop allows you to slice and then there's a new button above "slice" that says "Remote Print". Just click and your network printer pops up and you can send quickly over wifi. Been using that instead of trusting that usb of course. Phone app not needed but app can be used to track the print progress and change settings on the fly which is nice tho.
I bought my M5s around the time this video came out and i paid $350. From the price point in the video i knew the review was going to be biased, and i was right.
When i made the choice to buy the M5s i knew someone that has a saturn and all he ever did was complain about how it was always failing prints and the build plate ball thing never stayed level. Never had an issue with the M5s, so much so i have also added the M5sPro to my printer collection.
Any chance you are are going to review the Mighty 12k? I havent heard any complaints about them so far, other than the install is a problem.
Already done, just need to edit the video
I ordered my saturn 3 ultra before this video came out ( it hasn't arrived yet ) and was a bit worried when I first clicked on the video if I had made the wrong choice but it seems I have made the perfect choice.
Did you really sneak in a Pitch Meeting reference at 8:01.....................?
OH, REALLY?!
I have a creality LD 002R. It fails 9/10 times printing. So I want a new one. My plans was anycubic M5s pro but I don't know anymore. It is a good price on that now.
Just became a member, thanks for the video! Planning on getting the Saturn 3 Ultra for printing and painting miniatures. How does the Saturn 3 hold up against the Mars 4 Ultra or any another $400-$600 Resin printer. This will be my first 3D printer, looking for something somewhat on the easier side of use for beginners. Also Faux where do you like to get your models from?
Welcome!!! Great pick, yeah I’d say the Saturn 3 ultra is the best in that price range easily. Though based on some reports, you may need to replace the ACF film with NFEP film for the best detail. It worked for me and I’ve seen pics from people which echo that statement but others who get lines on their prints…
I get most of my models direct from the creators, but MyMiniFactory is one of the best places online
@@FauxHammer Thanks for the reply? Is there any resources you can point me to on how to replace ACF film with NFEP film?
I ended up with a free mars 4 max because it was damaged. it printed great for a couple weeks now im pretty sure the damage has caught up to it and i cant get a successful print at all. so here we are back to the drawing board. this is a really tough choice...or is it? are they both amazing and im lucky to be starting this hobby now instead of 5 years ago? idk what to do :(
Totally agree, I have both in my printer cupboard and the Saturn rules every time.
It’s weird how people who only own the Anycubic tell me I’m wrong, but anyone who owns both, tells me I’m right
I want to make heads for figures that have great detail. It can be slow and does not have to be big. Which one is best?
That was another great video. Thank you. I can’t wait until I am in a position to get my hand on a resin printer. Still seems really far away but its very valuable information and clarification.
Thanks fir watching in preparation
@@FauxHammer I have a very small space for all of this and limited fund. I do have a crappy window in that room, so I first want to replace that window with a vent/filtration system.
Are any of Anycubic's offerings worthwhile? Elegoo and Phrozen do not ship to NZ and I'm not enthusiastic about about paying a reseller a significant markup
between all my purchases I've always been burnt one way or another with Anycubic printers. My M5s will be the last Anycubic printer I buy. Autoleveling sounds amazing until it isn't.
While I'm not a big fan of Elegoo's ball joint, you can actually mount it at a 90 degree angle to let resin drop off the build plate. I miss that simple design decision.
Sometimes you can. Depends on the plate mounting shape.
You’re on a roll with the sons of anarchy prints I dig it
Have more to do still
@@FauxHammer keep it up that's bad ass, I have a motorcycle I need to 3d print but its FDM and im super scared with that turn out. Supports on my printer suck sometimes
I hope you will manage to start selling your resin in EU ;)
It looks interesting to test!
I hope so too! Working on it
@@FauxHammer please tell about that in videos, when you managed to do that :) really want to try ;)
@@virrcraft oh I will
Thanks!
Thank you so much!!!!
Is the ACF sheet maybe installed incorrectly. Deny did a video of the Phrozen ACF and talked about how the texture should be on the bottom side of the vat and had no issues.
He did, I watched it, but no. it's the correct way up
I really wanted to order the mars 4 ultra because of the Pixel size. Also I don't need big print area since I always just print small figures. Buying a bigger printer like saturn 3 ultra means more costs in every aspect. The printer itself but also new films or a new display if something breaks. BUT I do want to best possible quality...so as I understood I should buy the saturn 3 or saturn 3 ultra with extra Film.
please tell me which one is better for jewelry and small details?
I just got the Mars 4 and did the test print… The printer displayed that it “finished” but the print was only about 90% done when I pulled it off the plate… Does the printer automatically set the height parameters for a print from the file or could I possibly have a unintentional height limit set on the machine??
Sorry if my question doesn’t make sense, I have only been doing this for 1 day 😅
Muchas gracias por el vídeo 😊 me gustaría preguntarte en que orden pondrias estas impresoras, la verdad es aue es dificim elegir porque todas ofreven slgo interesante. Anycubic x 6ks, elegoo satunr 2 8k, elegoo mars 4 Ultra, anycubic M5, busco sobretodo calidad de impresión, cual ofreveria mejor resultado usando la misma resina. Mil gracias por lo qie hqces y como ayudas a la comunidad 😊
Hiya, I hope this is in a decent order for you and helps with your question
www.fauxhammer.com/top-10/the-best-3d-printer-for-miniatures-models/
@FauxHammer Could you please share the settings for Saturn 3 chitubox?
I just bought mine, and i use siraya fast tech 4k resin
Just wondering, Is there a reason you pour the resin on the build plate or is that just for visuals? Also, I have been printing resin constant since i followed your guide and have had no fails. Ive been using the Sunlu ABS-Like resin and its been great.
Solid! Glad to hear your results from that guide.
And you are right, it just looks better pouring it that way
Did you say you used PFA on the Ultra? What did you say was the link to that videa and what settings did you use. I had a film failure and replaced my ACF with PFA and would like to see what settings you like. Cheers
It’s in my Saturn 3 Vs ultra video from last week. No settings changed. Just relevelled
In the market to replace my photon D2, is there any reason to try and stick with a dlp printer again??
Bigger build area is enticing, and that Saturn ultra looks pretty decent
Hey Ross, I have read that the Ultra (both saturn and mars) have limits on the lift speed which stop you from slowing them down further. This can mean failure on swapping from ACF to NFEP or PFA because the lift speed won't slow enough for those films. Have you come across this issue?
I typically do every test at 60mm/m or 1mm/s. Never had an issue at that speed on any printer.
Apparently the ultras are limited to minimum 100mm/min lift speed that's coded in, and setting it lower doesn't actually change the speed. Reportedly Elegoo are planning a firmware update to fix this. Presumably it was because the Ultras come with ACF. Maybe this was bad information (a few people have posted this on reddit - and there is not a lot of info out given these printers are new). I suppose if it's not causing failure then it's not really of any consequence though. Thanks for the reply!@@FauxHammer
4:28 The belly of wisdom😆
i love my ultra! only the acf died during the 2nd validation matrix bc there was a little fail from the first print left. gotta say i have the nfep vat bought and could just swap out the vat and oh boy the ultra with nfep is just insane (printing wicked3d witcher diorama rn)
and elegoo service is amazing too
Just out of curiosity, is the Saturn 3 tank the same as the Ultra tank?
@@scottybruce4302 and the same as the saturn 2
As I watched this video through. I am in the market for a resin printer a little backstory I am coming from fdm sovol sv06 Plus I was going to purchase a bamboo Labs p1s or X1. However I would really like to make statues that I paint like those of Epic statues what are the trade-offs of getting the larger resin printers? I would like to be able to print a six to eight inch tall statue and I am willing to pay up to 1k for a quality printer that can do that, any recommendations?
Hey FauxHammer. Let's just say a printer for minis between 28-75mm and all I care about is quality and detail. Speed doesn't matter to me.
Elagoo, Phrozen or (another brand I might not know) for what I want?
I like the comparisons but I would like to know about specifically detail and who right now is the best choice under around $1000
Any chance of a Saturn ultra vs mono M7 pro? looking to make a purchase and pricing very similar atm
This thing of the larger (deeper) vat.. Can you top up the resin in case you are printing a large model? Is the vat capacity a limiting factor on how large a model you can print?
yeah, youc an paus ore just add when the plate lifts if you are quick
Thank you.. you should know that I was all set to get the M5s but then at the last minute saw your video and switched to the Saturn3 Ultra, mainly on the basis of the larger potential prints and a few other points that point to a more common sense approach and possibly better "care" of their customer (as evidenced in the rubber feet and similar).. It did not help either that, for EU customers, the "free" resin painting set being given on Black Friday by Anycubic suddenly became "not free" when EU was selected. No reply from their support either since this morning, hence I went ahead with Elegoo which also came highly recommended by people I know who run a very large print farm. Thanks for a fantastic video review, so direct and to the point and containing just the right amount of wit.. and no annoying music.
If you had to choose would it be Saturn 3 or Saturn 3 Ultra? Thanks
I ordered an M5S a few days ago and it is on its way...now I am having second thoughts and I am considering returning it for a refund and going for the Saturn 3/Ultra....I don't want to end up with buyers remorse months after the fact....
I took the easy way out. I already own an M5s and use the nFEP film and just purchased a Saturn Ultra and will be swapping out the ACF with the FEP.
Good call
Incredible video, really thanks
Can you hack the Anycubic deeper vat to fit on the Elegoo machines say by making new screw holes etc......???
you probably can. is it really worth the effort?
Printed on Saturn M5 and Saturn M5s is that a typo or is it printed on both?
Hi I am still researching what to buy as I am an N gauge railway modeller, and my son is a v keen Warhammer player/builder, so is also interested. He reccomeded your chjannel and it has been v helpful in educating me as to what I should buy. Please keep up the great content.
This video made me cancel my M5s Pro for the Saturn 3 ultra. I would've love the auto bed leveler and the cleaning system that the m5s provides, but I look forward to the higher quality prints
Just in case, did you keep in mind the fact that Anycubic Mono X needed higher height test cause the initial over exposure? I wonder if that bug remains, if that's the case you'll need to redo some tests, even the RERF that comes with it suffers from that so theres a custom one, it's just thicker. Anyway it's a very informative video, super complete, thanks messenger!! ;)
Check out my M5 video for everything I did. it was more than enough