Toyota Fortuner GR S POV Driving Impressions -How does it compare to the Everest Titanium 4x4
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2022
- With its price of 2.569 million, The 2022 Toyota Fortuner GR-S is currently the most expensive PPV in the Philippines right now. In this POV test drive video, I'll talk about my honest driving impressions of the Fortuner GR-S. We'll talk about NVH, how it compares to other PPVs like the Ford Everest Titanium 4x4 and the Nissan Terra and we'll try to see if it's actually overpriced or not
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Toyota has been resting on their reputation for reliability for years, without spending anything on R&D. The Fortuner is an old platform based on the Hilux, which was never designed to be turned into an SUV. Everything is just tacked on as upgrades. The Fortuner was designed originally for the Middle East and North Africa area, then SE Asia as a cheaply designed, rugged people mover, without any thoughts for refinement or ride quality, and that's why it's not sold in Western Europe or North America. Toyota just doesn't invest money in these ancillary markets. The only thing positive about the vehicle is availability of parts and it's agricultural build making it fairly reliable and easy to fix, since most of its mechanical components are shared with the Hilux pickup. Most buyers these days expect more from their vehicles than just being reliable, rough riding agricultural, noisy appliances. Most PPVs have long warranties and parts are readily available anyway, so the "reliability" issue isn't as big a selling point as it once was. When you spend hours every day in a vehicle, it's ride, NVH levels and creature comforts start to matter a lot more than just the reputation for reliability. A Fortuner isn't a Land Cruiser, it's simply a Hilux with a roof and extra seats and a revised rear suspension. Unlike the Everest which was designed from the start to be both a pick up and an SUV, the Fortuner is nowhere near as integrated a platform. Toyota is only investing money in volume selling vehicles for North America, which is also the most profitable, and doesn't have much respect for buyers outside that market. It's also notable that even Toyota's performance division has been cut back and now is mostly focused on cosmetic changed and tweeks to small four and three cylinder engines. Vehicles like the 86 and Supra are co developed with partners like Subaru and BMW because they just don't have the in house expertise anymore. Toyota has become more about making money than innovation, but hopefully that is starting to change with the new Prius, and because they're being outsold by the Koreans and other Japanese makes in the profitable markets. Even Lexus has been lagging behind its luxury competition.
well said
Agree
finally, somebody says it.
Daming fanboys ang iiyak neto
Well said 💯
you are hinestband unbiased! i appluad you!
Pag my LTD ka na 4x4,, ito ang feeling..1. Feel mo na meron kang Sports Car, dahil dinig mo ang REV nang Engine. 2. Feel mo na meron kang Pick-UP Truck ang lakas nang Torque. 3. Feeling mo naka Sedan ka kasi hindi matagtag sa bihaye. 4. Ung alam mo na SOLID ang BODY and Underchassis nang sasakyan mo at HINDI LATA. 5. Wlang maraming Feautres na electronics na pag nasira is Mahal ang magasgastos mo. 6. At alam mo na kahit saan mo dalin ay hindi ka mapapahiya sa mga akyatan or saan ka man mapadaan. PUTIK, BAHA, BUNDOK, BATUHAN, ILOG, BUHANGIN. 7. and wla kana ma iisip na idadag pa or i-upgrade pa. 8. alam mo na tatagal cya dahil subok ang makina na matibay at tatagal siya. 9. Hiindi mahal ang maintenance and maraming parts. 10. Hindi malakas sa Diesel at ang laki nang Tank nya 80Ltrs ang capacity. 11. kahit maraming sakay hindi lubog ang pwetan nya. 11. kaya 2.5M sulit na sa bagong LTD 4x4. ginhawa sa biyahe na malayuan dahil sa cool seat nya.. blind spot monitoring gamit na gamit. and ang mga safety feautes na gamit na gamit.. hindi lang decoration.
May audible vibration po fortuner from your review sir?
I got mine po (fortuner grs 2023) and there's also vibration.
WHEN, WHEN, WHEN. Cant wait for the all new fortuner and compare it to the Everest, will it be much more expensive considering the rumor of hybrid engine and more class leading specs and tech to compete against the Everest. Again cant wait to see the All new Fortuner. VERY NICE REVIEW AS ALWAYS.
when will be the releasing of the new Fortuner
ano yung ingay sa everest? tires noise? road noise?
Best performance. Once you go you never wanna go back to the 2.4
wla ako kotse o suv pero sarap manuo d nito at informative salmat boss somehow nagkakaroon ako idea
Iba talaga kapag gawa ng toyota. I finally made my decision. Fortuner na kunin ko.
i select everest than fortuner,coz all the features in now in everest,even auto parking is available already it means more high tech than any competitor in the market and most especially its more quiet engine than all competitor..everest titanium 4x4 Cheaper than fortuner
Base on my experience fortuner GR-S way better than everest 4x4 titanium. ✌🏻😂
I don’t get it on this sides review the fortuner Gr-s is while the other its more better. Who do I believe now?
@jaywalkur Everest Wildtrak, Terra Sport, and Montero Sport Ralliart are top spec PPV’s.
Hope they can reformat the third row seat of the TOYOTA FORTUNER.... OR RE DESIGN THE THIRD ROW SEAT...
may test drive ngayon sa moa sir?
november pa yan paps
kailangan tlaga mg upgrade ng todo mga competitors pra matabunan ang mga issue nla lalo na sa reliability. pro ang daming upgrades n mga technology ngayon impraktkal nman d halos ngagamit. pa cool lng.
The GR logo makes it more expensive. Nothing significant improvement vs the later.
It has everything I need in SUV, I just dislike high tech car with no real gear shift or handbrake. Maybe I drive sport car, so I am looking for the same experience in SUV, I want control over my car without any too much assistant. Sound like a fun car to drive since it is a real car and not a toy.
Plus it has a very reliable engine vs everest
Several Toyota dealers here are arrogant. They said they do not entertain cash buyers more than installment buyers. Obviously, because they are greedy for more profit. So sad.😔
Toyota poor service
Terra 2023 for me
The Toyota Fortuner GR-S Produce by Toyota Motor Manufacturing Indonesia ( TMMiN ) in Karawang Bekasi west Java Indonesia 🗿
Looks good from outside but too old tech and style from inside
What a massive beauty 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Bakit ka nagcocompare sa everest.
All i can describe sa fortuner is reliability. I have owned a toyota from vios to avanza to innova and fortuner. Though the cabin is more like a utility and outdated one, still i bought it dahil ayoko ng pain in the ass since yung budget is limited to what i can afford. Sana yung toyota mag labas din mga interior na pasok sa uso.
About sa stiffer suspension, di hamak na mas maganda ride nya compared sa mga dating model ng fortuner. mas gusto ko kaysa soft setting suspension dahil safe ako sa corners unlike sa dati naming fortuner 2013 model na parang nag bobody roll pagdating sa kurba.
Sana yung hybrid na fortuner, mas ok na yung interiors. Para kasing na bebehind na. Kung di lang talaga sa reliability, hindi na fortuner kinuha ko.
In terms of reliability pare parehas naman na lahat yan since puro electrical assisted na mga auto ngayon naka depende na sayo kung paano mo gamitin.kung ang rason mo ay parts availability more on convenience na yun di na reliability since parehas din naman nasisira pero meron readily available sa aftermarket.reliability kung gaano katagal bago masira and bagay.
No to japanese EVs
Mas maganda e maniho ang old kysa new pra sakin.
Color something red there and black there... Whoala GR-S it is... kaching 🤑🤑🤗 2.5M from 2.2M 🤪
Badly needs an all new model. All those techs can only do so much when the model itself is old and cumbersome.
Compare to its price for 2.5m, I think I can get better feature pack cars than this. For 2.5m, there is still no fully digital speedometer (only at the middle for information), adaptive until 30kph, no sunroof, no electric handbrake, and no autohold. I could get those features in cheaper PPV's like the Montero, Terra, Everest, MUX. It is also too expensive at its price for 2.5m with all the feature it has which the Everest has loads more feature than the Fortuner. I guess all the money goes to the engine I guess.
The engines are not great either. Old tech and the D4D engines are known for cracked pistons and bad injectors.
All the money goes to the badge
Only for the Toyota fanboys 😂 I hope they realize that TMP is robbing them.
@@tlevans62 I'd rather have cracked pistons and bad injectors than very bad transmissions. I worked in a mining company and we had once a fleet of Everest and Ranger as a service car and they didn't take long before that particular fleet got grounded due to engine issues mainly transmissions failing. I'd rather have the Isuzu MU-X or the D-Max who's only issues we found is that the undercarriage gets rusty a bit but can be easily remedied than something that needed major repairs after not even a year in service.
@@lunaFreya141 that's interesting, which transmissions did these vehicles have? The six speed or the 10 speed? Bad transmissions aren't a known issue in the Ranger, especially the 6 speed units. I don't think either are good, cracked pistons, bad injectors or bad transmissions. D-Max had a lot of suspension issues and cracked frames in a commercial operation running them at a mine in Mindanao. Lots of Rangers running around mines in Western Australia without any issues.
Sana ma compare din maintenance pinaka basic like change oil cost?
The price of oil and filters is the same regardless of what PPV you're driving. It's only labor that changes.
@@tlevans62 casa service cost ford & Toyota same price?
@@drmramos1867 nope, it depends on the dealer and the service is once every year, or every 10k kilometers, so it's not a huge consideration. The main issues are parts, which are readily available for both Ford and Toyota. Cost of consumable items like oil, filters, brake pads etc are all the same.
should be hybrid
what do you mean by Dated? i mean what's the difference between dated and out-dated??? can you define it Jay.
Just add a little more and its price is knocking with the Ikes of a Toyota Prado 😂
Mas na mention pa ng mas madalas ang Everest sa fortuner itself in this review hahahaha
All good until something breaks. Everest is also a timing belt.
People buying a 2.5m have spare cars. And people buying at this price range are thinking of luxury and refinement. Your line of thinking is for vios.
@@monopolarmaster4262 all of your staments are incorrect. From spare cars, luxury cars to vios. Absoutely wrong.
test drove for the first time fortuner q, and right after driving i said NO. heavy steering wheel, not comfy ride, high price tag for its specs, NO NO NO. il test drive everest this month, hopefully.
Welcome to ford, now get in line and wait for it to come in half a year lmao
Yeah and also wait for it to break down and need many repairs.
Mainit 😅 ata kc ang papaypay pyun katabi niyu po 😅😅
mainit aircon? nagpapaypay ang katabi nyo😂
Auto parking para sa tamad mag park
Sira ba aircon? Lol
Paypay is life 😁
1st
overrated fortuner reliabilty lang puhunan ayon sa iba
and resell value
Overated na Toyota! Its like driving a box so simple reliable but primal! Parang last samurai lang storya. Lumaki na ang Ulo nila and we are getting so less on what we paid for.
The D4D engines have a bad reputation for cracked pistons and bad injectors.
Nako magagalit fan boys nyan, galit na galit sa Chinese cars eh yung Toyota nila 70% China parts na 😂
@@topethermohenes7658 anu kotse ng toyota ang may chinese parts boss?
Nakakatakot to mag test drive. Parang hindi nanghiram. Parang nabili na nya sasakyan. 😂
Fortuner for me, parts and after sales. Easy to diy basic maintenance.
Parts and after sales are available from all the other makes as well, and you can do the same basic maintenence on the other vehicles as well. All of them have electronic ignition and engine computers, ABS, ESC etc so you're not doing anything on a Fortuner that you can't do on an MUX, Montero Sport or Everest. The only thing might be after sales service but that depends on the dealership, not the brand itself.
Jay I'm starting to doubt you're getting paid good money by Ford to review Toyota and bash them by comparing them. Yea yea we get it Ford is better but why are you pretending to be shocked while the whole world knows the Ford you're comparing is new generation and this Toyota is a decade old generation?, Boringgggg
I'm comparing them because, until the next gen Fortuner gets launched, this will remain the current gen Fortuner. Like I said in my other videos, the Everest is currently the benchmark when it comes to PPVs so it's being compared to that. If you think i'm being biased, do check out other reviews and you'll see that they're all saying the same thing.
@@jaywalkur hopefully you have the same energy to bash Ford when the others enter the new generation
@@ishaqthkr he will. Bcoz when that time comes toyota naman ang magpapadala sa kanya sa thailand 😂
It's the current generation and the direct competitor to the Everest right now, what do you want him to do? He has to compare what's available for sale now. He'll do it again when the new Fortuner comes out, and he'll "bash"' the Ford if it's better, no need to be an angry Toyota fanboy.
Too much electronic assist will give you headache when they start to fail. Your vision of a good car is when it’s new, but have we considered this in the long run? Engine start to wear and all the components & electronics? 😅
The thing is all top of the line ppvs, including the gr-s come with these high tech driver assist features. If we were to follow your argument, all of these high end ppvs will fail in the long run as they all come with tech
I do talk a lot about these tech features because you pay a lot for them. If you dont want tech, you can opt for the lower variants and save money.
Also I cant give a car a negative review because it has too much tech unless that tech is somehow not intuitive. On the flipside, i cant praise a car for having too little tech especially if it charges you a lot for that deficiency. That's not how progress works.
Lastly the lack of tech was not one of my main criticisms of the fortuner. It actually has more tech than the mux and the terra. My criticisms were mostly about nvh and the rear cargo space
Maybe those who don't like tech should get a horse. A car is a technological invention after all and will ultimately breakdown. A horse, even if it breaks down (read: die) can give you little horses..
All cars wear out, as do all engines, it's usually down to how you maintain them. Also, if you don't want any tech then buy a tractor, or a lower end variant of a PPV with better ride, handling and NVH levels. If all you're after is some agricultural truck based conveyance that won't break down, buy an old truck from the 1960s with a carburetor and magneto type ignition system, leaf springs all around and drum brakes. When you spend over 1.5 million pesos you expect to be getting something that's both reliable and comfortable to drive.
News flash, we are living in 2023, electronics are cheaper and more available than analogs as electronics manufacturing is a bigger and more widespread industry than any analog manufacturer will ever be.
@@jaywalkur your criticism and negative thoughts on toyota is based on short term you can ask toyota owners for around 10 to 15 years on why they choose it over other brand which can give you more comfort, example a 2010 ford everest has a resale value range of 350k while 2007 innova has 350k to 400k depends on the condition while 2007 fortuner has a resale price of 480k to 500k average Filipino's chooses toyota because it's cheap to maintain a minor problem can be fixed outside casa.
still shitty 3rd row seats and parking brakes. noisy engine. bad suspension. overly priced.
2.5m for an outdated interior and tagtag suspension and loud engine? No ty the only thing your paying for this car is the badge
I'd rather get the terra or everest cheaper and better ride better features
yeah yeah the everest is the new toy high tech comfy pero hindi pinapansin ng mga pinoy buyers bwahahah