Here are the sources for this lecture and recommended readings: Michael D. Coogan, Mark S. Smith; Stories from Ancient Canaan; WJK James S. Anderson; Monotheism and Yahweh’s Appropriation of Baal; T&T Clark Mark S. Smith; The Origins of Biblical Monotheism; Oxford Mark S. Smith; The Early History of God, Harper & Row Yonatan Adler; The Origins of Judaism; Yale John J. Collins; The Invention of Judaism; University of California Press
I am of Lebanese blood, my family emigrated from the city of Sidon 50 years ago. It is a fascinating place with two crusaders castles, a monastery from that era, a mosque that was built by the crusaders as a church and later converted, a Phoenician temple, among other things. The name Baal (pronounced Ba'al) is still invoked today to refer to land where the crops are naturally grown (what you call organic), and the land is never watered. Such crops like olives for example are considered the best since watering is considered to dilute the oil. I used to hear farmers referring to such crops as "ala Ba'al" which literally means grown by Baal. The term is still used till today.
I want to commend how you make biblical history come to life, this was a fascinating lecture. It is a shame these videos do not have a wider audience. You do not have to be religious to enjoy hearing these stories and histories.
@@JH-bf6qy God. Say God, the concept of the tetragrammaton is false piety. You have no problems breaking His other laws and commandments, but don't you dare eat pork, turn on a light on sabbath or say His name.
Thank you so much. This is a very timely lecture to understand what is happening in the Middle East right now... One really cannot understand the present without understanding the past.
@@MisfitoXyou believe in nothing. Please tell me how to prove nothing. Then please explain to me why you feel the need to come and destroy other peoples faith to live in the confusion and misery of believing in nothing. Get those demons off you 😂😂😂😂😂😂
This guy is good, very good! I watched him on Mythvision and liked a lot. I'm a music teacher myself and respect good teachers. Community he's in (a version of Latter day's saints?) are privileged to have him. Word. Me out!
After me finding out about all of this I was happy since my name is Michael named after the arch angel and after losing my faith which I kind of never really had I always had doubts and thought I was bad for not really believing in the religion of my parents now I can see my name comes from the canaanite god El.
This is one of the best lecturers I've ever witnessed on this subject. You've masterfully explained the historical context, etymological importance & religious syncretism of each epithet used during specific periods of time. 😌🤌
Fascinating stuff around 40:00 about Hezekiah, and his successors switching back and forth between Ba'al and Yahweh worship, with the Yahweh worshipers getting punished and the Ba'll worshipers doing fine. By the way, Hezekiah seems a lot like Akhenaten to me, now that I think of it. I religious reformer who took the country in a more monotheistic direction, only to have his reforms undone by his successor.
The seal of King Hezekiah, the dung beetle ( Khepera) and the winged Sun Disc ( Heru Behutet ) tells you is the Aten. This connects to the bloodline of the tribe of Judah which is Horite. Akhenaten was a Horite, which is a bloodline and priesthood. Horites are followers of Heru and The Horites of Edom/Seir the Horite are the Horus Kings of Egypt. Manahath the Horite is Menes first dynasty of Egypt. Falcon Clan This is the secret bloodline of Jesus. Salmon the Horite father of Bethlehem Boaz ( pillar of masonry) Obed Jesse David Solomon Jesus the Horite and the order of Melchizedek, the Jebusite=Horite Judah was born in Haran and Haran was a Horite empire.. The Horites are from Mt Ararat. The people of Ar/Ra children of the Sun Cannanites are Horites. Yahweh is a Horite God.. The Shasu of Yahweh from Edom
@@jimgraham6722 Read the Dream Stele, the Sphinx or Heru Em Akhet is the Aten. Akhenaten connection to the Bible is the bloodline and priesthood, the Horites. Everything is revealed when you unravel the Horite bloodline
I love the little asides he does while narrating the Bible stories. He describes Elijah as "a pretty badass prophet" for having the altar prepped by dousing water on it three times before he calls down fire from Yahweh. Great lecture 😂
Tectauus is an interesting figure remembered as Baal and Shiva. I think he is recorded on the Sumerian King's list as Kullasina-bel. It would be a fitting title for the son of Perses/Tarshish/Jushur.
are you stupid or what. Shiva is the supreme deity. Read history first Deaus (Zeus) father of Indra, Indra his other name Marduk or Thor who is father of Baal. Don't make unhealthy comparisons, read Zoroastrian Jewish history first.
@@manjulashanmugasundaram706 yep the Indus river valley is known to have traded with the ancient Sumerians and the Mittani who ruled for a time in Sumeria is thought to have roots or some religious and language connection to India. Tectauus is also called The Bull or the Horned Heracles who is considered possibly Gilgamesh. Tectauus is the son of Perses who was supposedly born in Nubia to Perseus. And Perses is supposed to be the first Pharaoh according to myth. Perses is also credited with building the small pyramids in Nubia. From my understanding his son Tectauus traveled the world from India to Europe teaching his father's religion of return to nature and that his father would return after dying, the dying and living again King concept. The constellation Taurus is named after Tectauus.
@@manjulashanmugasundaram706It has long been suggested that the Sumerians, who ruled in Lower Mesopotamia from circa 4500 to 1900 BCE and who spoke a non-Indo-European and non-Semitic language, may have initially come from India.
In the Enuma Elish Marduk basically yanks Baal(called Hadad in the story)s title and function. Along with a lot of other gods. But Baal and Marduk were both storm gods who became big shots in their own pantheons. Ra being a sun god doesn't really fit though.
Baal isn't Marduk he's hadad. The god of abrahamic religions is enlil. Enki is portrayed as Satan And Lilith is inanna. Baal is worshipped throughout history along with these gods. He's the bull So he's been Zeus in Greece mars in Rome set in Egypt baal in Canaanite phoecian. Inanna is the owl So she's been Minerva Friegar Lilith Enki is the snake Hence the snake always being a God of wisdom or knowledge. Satan gave Adam and Eve the apple which gave them knowledge and wisdom?. Sound familiar lol. Good on you for getting close to the truth tho
It’s somewhat understandable, the time and resources people spent in ancient times worshipping Gods who did not exist. It was the only straw people had to grasp at. That people continue to engage in such folly in our present day, however, calls out for an explanation.
This was excellent mate. I've read the Good Book twice from cover to cover (20 years apart) and what you say elucidates so much of what I remember from the oldest books. Thanks so much! ps. are you perhaps not mispronouncing the name Baal? I did a quick check using Google translate: the limit of my scholarship.
@@amelliamendel2227 I have skim-read some over the years, but the only topic which I made a study of was the dead sea scrolls. They (and the work of interpretation) impressed me tremendously. What books do you recommend? Be warned though: it is not my field. As luck would have it I bumped into a Coptic monk in large, chain, stationery store a week ago and we discussed this same topic with regard to ancient manuscripts found scattered amongst their heirlooms, laying around here and there.
@@_pawterinteresting, wonde rebate else you have learned/rediscovered. Really there are too many people out there living a life completely ignorant to the past. Maybe you can check out my comment and chime in anything you heard of. Posted 2 questions.
Of course you don't have to be a biblical scholar to know that 'Bail' for Baal is an Americanism. Just as they torture Iraqis with the word 'Eyerach', and call Hitler 'Aydolph', to rhyme with 'hay'. Americans, I wanna be one - not!
This reminds me of Shelley Eagle and Snake Poem. Snake wrapping around a pole is called a "caduceus" a Magic Staff of Hermes. Awesome presentation! I have to read Shelley tomorrow.
Rather than movement from polytheism to henotheism to monotheism, it could be in reverse with repeated reversion to polytheism. EL being the original monotheist God.
Do you have a lecture about blood sacrifice in general? My biggest hangup with Christianity was that it relies completely on blood sacrifice (something innocent must die to purify guilt) rather than a propitiatory system (undo the wrong you committed) which makes me wonder why God preferred such a practice/system?
Great info! I would make a comment on the caduceus. It was originally a symbol of the Kundalini energy that are the 2 energy symbols of the body. It is also the seven seals mentioned in the book of Revelations. Thank you!
Baal was the third son of Yahwey, when Yahwey divided the earth between his 70 sons, elders, Baal got Lebanon Sumeria and Akkadia,, Lebanon being the home of Baalbek, Yahwey's home and Baalport for his travel.
@@kyalokamina6497Baalbek is 38 miles NE of Beirut and Baalport is adjacent to the SE, in the Hebrew Bible there were 40 Elders, 70 in the New Testament and via the Kings List of which there are some 7 identical copies we know who is who and Oxford University has at least one. We know the history of each in great detail.
I have a few Questions, if anyone can share some light on... - Wasn't the first depictions of the Caduceus shown throughout ancient Summeria? Which is dated as the oldest recorded civilization being 6,000-15,000 years old. I am not sure how old were those depicted carvings dated specifically though. Was it influence by the story of moses? People still debate on WHEN Moses actually lived or was it prophetic references for a future event? Also, Ancient Summeria is older than Ancient Egypt, in which we can see Toth holding what looks like a Caduceus staff with 2 snakes. In addition, within Satanism, the Baphomet also has the Caduceus near his stomach. I find it funny that the medical industry loves to use the Caduceus, the rod of Aescelapian, symbolizing commerce! Ha, the big pharma mafia's play on symbols were a human error? In my humble opinion, I don't think we'll educated individuals / organizations accidentally choosen it. This seems like a stretch and more so a deliberate action. Maybe...it was the sinister acts of Baal? Even the image of this entity is drawn with horns, which has striking resemblance to jinn / shayateen / demons (having the ability of choice like humans, and are known to cause mischief throughout history.) Not to go too much on q tagent, but lets not forget the line is very very fine when refering to science & magic. - Could Hadad and Zeus be the same entity? Such striking resemblance with the lighting/thunder notations. - When would you say the early works of the Torah are spread during Jeremiah's days of 640-570 BCE? I have heard that the Torah was "lost" for quite some time, would this be the historical references? Could you conclude a time frame of wheb the Torah was lost by archeological data? If not then when can you conclude through religious primary, secondary, and third sources of it being lost?
A lot of questions Sumerian was like 4000BC so older Adad is Ninurta brother Enlil sons Ninurta is highest ranking I see him as Michael Son of the “Dbl seed” and royal blood They took half sisters as wives Abraham and Sarah were also half siblings Enki and Enlil are like Zeus and Poseidon and they had descendants with half sibling as well With Ninmah But what I know and how interpret Is all of these gods are angels with different ranking Enki clan was Egypt and Enlil was more eastern/Mesopotamia Baal is most likely referring to Lucifer who was known as Marduk/Amun Ra and most likely Ahura Mazda by Persians Lucifer is Aries the Ram the son of Zeus Who i believe is Enki And Yahweh is most likely Enlil son Ninurta or Enlil Enlil might have been El with Enlil being represented as bull His Zodiac and time of rule came first age of Taurus And then age of Ram which was Lucifer and then Pisces which was Jesus era till about now and now we just recently entered Aquarius Moses led the Hebrew out of Egypt which was Marduk/Lucifer/Baal/Ra territory maybe 3500 years ago 1000-1500bc And it seems with first temple Judaism was 2 factions both with hierarchy of gods With 1 having Baal at top and the other with Yahweh With Baal trying to manipulate the more eastern Mesopotamia world trying to gain control over earth Where I believe the Persians were influenced by Lucifer And I believe Islam was also With the intent of steering away from Jesus The Jews don’t recognize the savior The Catholics pretend to while still following Greek/Roman pantheon and the Muslims are steered away from Jesus I believe all fabricated by Lucifer or a descendant Which the Persian descendants seem to be Cyrus, Darius Xerxes But Abraham seems to be descendant of Enki/Zeus Who is father of Lucifer The Enlil clan with Ninurta have more power But the bloodlines are through Zeus and Lucifer Lucifer also took women as wives just like fallen angels Fallen angels are not of royal blood though with Lucifer being royalty Set and Osiris are Lucifer’s offspring
some interesting similarities between Baal Hadad, Indra and Thor. all rides in the sky and are associated rain/thunder/lightning/storm, all use a hammer/cudgel/club/mace, all fight a sea/water creature that is in the shape of a serpent/dragon.
From Abhijit vartak , pune , India - is he the same personality, after whom ' balbek ' is named ? If it is so , his existence , influence will go back to period of gobekley tepe .
Baal is the pipe of the mountain of god (volcano). In Hebrew he is called lord, the mountain is called the father and the physical representation of god as a gigantic rock outcrop that sits above the volcano's pipe (baal) on the crater holds the name god.
@wademach77 3 minutes ago Baal to me was always Bull as El. In mythology some saw Baal as a son of El but others saw Baal as a son of Dagan. I enjoy seeing the similarities between Yahweh and Baal.
Ba'al is the Dog-Headed Goddess Bau-Gula, she is the mother of the dying and rising god of healing known as Damu, a name that means blood, brother or relative. Damu was known as the Swine star, the head of Draco, where it got its name from Dagon, the grain god, the head of Draco is shaped like a seed cup, it was part of the world plow, invented by Dagon. Draco was seen as Taweret, goddess of childbirth, Ba'al-Seth was the Big Dipper known as the Thigh of the Ox Leg, Ursa Minor was the Standing Wolf, Polaris The Dog's Tail, The Goddess Bau-Gula was seen as the star Vega, our Pole Star 12,000 years ago, as the Dog's Tail is our pole star today. The Sumerian word Ur means Dog, Taweret's hand rests on the sa sign, 𓎃, a hieroglyph that means 'protection' or 'lifesaver'. The goddess Taweret, portrayed as a bipedal hippopotamus with limbs like those of a feline. The Hippo was called Water Pigs, the same thing as a swine, the word Urgula means both Lion and Great Dog, Urgula is the name of Leo. The right leg of Orion would be the Thigh cut off by Horus, the bright star at the tip of Orion's sword, Hatysa is placed on the thigh of Orion, it means Slaughter, as Gohatya means Cow Killer, but read backwards it means "Savior of Sinners", haat means 'to sin', yasa means 'savior'. If you place Hatysa on the western horizon, seen as Death, it places Alula at mid-heaven, Alula means First Born, it is the right leg of Ursa Major, where you find the 7 main stars, we call the Big Dipper, the Alula is the thumb on a wing, the thumb is a symbol of Judgement, wings are symbols of Messengers, it take 7 hours for Alula to fall from mid-heaven to the horizon, when Alula is replaced by the Dog-headed Goddess Bau-Gula, which is the star alignment seen Christmas day at 12:00 noon, when the sun is in Sagittarius, known as Pabilsag, the father of Damu, in Sumerian, his name means Chief Ancestor, in Astrology, Sagittarius is the hips and Thighs, my short version. The words "They All Rule" played in reverse will echo "Orion" the words "Say There Is A Guest" will echo Sagittarius. In Irish, echo is the word macalla, in Hebrew its Batkol, "Voice of God", bat means daughter, kol means voice, as mac means son, alla means Shout, but Alla is the ancient god associated with Damu, in Hebrew, Makala means "Who is like God". I've just showed you the birthday alignment of Lewallyn Roger Cupps-McCullough. Lewallyn means "Like a Lion/Ruling" Roger means Famous Spear, but also penis, (Sword of Orion) Cupps, Cupla means Twin, Alula is one of 3 sets on twin stars that create the paws of Ursa Major. McCullough means Son of the Hound of Ulster and Son of the Boar. September 4th to 8th 2040, when all the Visible planets align with Spica the hand star of Virgo, looking like a Spear/Sword in her hand "Her Mithras, Boy/Girl" played in reverse will echo "Virgo, September" Virgo is Latin for virgin, a word that hides Man/Woman, 'vir' is Latin for Man, 'gyne' (gin) is Greek for Woman, and Mithras is the Gohatya "Cow Killer".
Well you're going to get a kick out of this. Cross check these lists. These are different names or epithets of particular deities worshipped by different groups. Yahweh is the planet Saturn. Also known as El. Saturn _(Roman)_ is Remphan/Kronos/Chronos _(Greek),_ Utu/Chemosh/Shemash _(Akkadian),_ Anu/Anshar _(Sumerian),_ Geb/Seb _(Kemet),_ Ildabaoth/Yaldaboath _(Gnosticism),_ Nimrod _(Babylon),_ Molech/Moloch/Ba'al/Moab/Sikkuth/Chiun/Kiyyun/Solomon/David/El _(Canaanite & Pheonician formerly Pharasaism/Judaism properly known as "Judaist")._ Saturn symbols are ⚛🔯✡☪️. Golden calf, Bull, Bull horns, Peacock, Hamsa & Stag horns. Also the Black cube, Santa Claus, Fern tree, Lord of the Rings & Grim Reaper. You can also look up corporate Saturn logos. Enlil is Ba'al/Bel/Marduk _(Canaanite)_ & Ba'al Zevuv/Beelzebub _(Philistine)._ His other epithets are Asshur _(Sumerian),_ Amun-Ra _(Egyptian/Khemet),_ Zeus _(Greek),_ Jupiter/St. Peter _(Roman),_ Indra _(Sanskrit),_ Vishnu _(Hindi),_ Tlaloc _(Mayan),_ Catequil/Pilan _(Incan),_ Thor/Donar _(Nordic),_ Dazhbog _(Slavonic),_ Ilma _(Finno-Ugric),_ Dagda _(Celtic)._
There was a backslash against the worship of the angel Metatron, this is referred to in the Talmud where Metatron receives 60 strokes by fiery rods to prove to Elisha ben Abuyah that he isn't a god.
The story of Elijah pouring jugs of water on wood which then suddenly catches fire reads like a majician's trick. Consider the possibility that the story's author knew that distilled alcohol can be made in a way that it is as clear as water. A spark which was hidden from sight could suddenly ignite the fire. Look at 1 kings 18:38. "The fire of the Lorld ........ licked up the water in the trench"
Which is which? He was the junior divinity not alloted his own house of the zodiac. Which means he is associated with one of the celestial objects on a polar orbit at the equinoxes -- the "Axis." So, for example, when God said "Let there be light" and Agni (Fire) was the first word of the Rig Veda -- around 4500 BC -- Baal was associated with Orion and Taurus, where those signs separate from Gemini. Some 6,538 years prior, he had been at Leo-Virgo. So the ancients, notably the Ojuelans of Mexico, the Hindu and the Etruscans, knew that Ekpyrosis comes four times a Precession. And, since Baal showed up last time when this "Right Hand of the Father" was the Vernal Equinox ... and today he is the Summer Solstice ... we should probably be seriously concerned. The zodiac (with Baal) has moved 90 degrees. Six hours of right ascension. Ganesh was associated with the 1st of Aries (Zero degrees R.A.), as was Thoth. If you are looking for a Yahweh connection, study Jupiter who is currently in the House of Aries. He was the Sign of the Word in 2010 and 2022. Jupiter was the Yod. And the Yod-Hey was Jupiter at the heart of Aquarius, where he was with the Sun Feb 28 2010 and Mar 5 2022. Now we await the Vav-Hey to complete the Divine Name. Which, I believe, will be that initial object who gets thrown down in advance of the arrival of the New Sun. A la Isaiah 14. El, on the other hand, was probably Saturn ... who acts as our north star in this time. Saturn was the hour hand of the cosmos. Jupiter the minute hand (whose 'alarm' goes off near when Monoceros points at him). In other words, between now and next September. Last month, we saw a couple of big signs. This month, Mars and Horus reach for the Scales of Justice. In April to May we have Jacob's Ladder or the Sign of Jonas or the Boat of the Sun. In May, we have the tauroctony of the Epic of Gilgamesh. So yeah. Expect Apocalypse and Genesis. Nova is coming. Superflare is coming. Pole shift is coming. Best of luck!
Seraphim. Yes, absolutely. Combined with the idea of "burning" or being "on fire." These are the "burning ones." Winged Serpent like guardians of God's throne of which the Nachash in the garden of Eden was a rebellious member. Very good catch on your part.
Is Israel the name of the people or is Elija praying for "thoughts who struggle with El" and through repetition because the people were so unfortunate they took on the name.
Cutting down sacred trees is truly bad form. This is why I am a buddhist, not a christian. Among other reasons. I like this speaker though. John Hamer.
What has an Old testament text about burning sacred trees to do with Christians today? Nothing. Hebrew Bible = (old testament) tells about an ancient religion that is neither Judaism nor Christianity.
This is kind of a funny statement if you know your Indian history, because Buddhist kings and emperors in India ALSO cut down sacred groves and tore down fire altars and funerary towers under the direction of their monks.
Christ means the Anointed One, the Messiah from the Greek word 'charisma" referring to the outpouring, the unction, the anointing ( preparation for burial , rubbing in and on of myrrh) of the Holy Spirit. The fullness of the Holy Spirit rested on Jesus at His baptism. John 3:22-36. All praise and glory to the Coming King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
They are one an the same but his minions would have you believe something else as is not convenient for the narrative they are selling today and the day would come when you no longer call me baal.
In truth baal was a generic term for lord, & there was many lords just as there is today. I assume since your talking about thee one baal that its referring to baal zehabab or the lord of the fly.Who was sometimes just called lord by some?
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Here are the sources for this lecture and recommended readings:
Michael D. Coogan, Mark S. Smith; Stories from Ancient Canaan; WJK
James S. Anderson; Monotheism and Yahweh’s Appropriation of Baal; T&T Clark
Mark S. Smith; The Origins of Biblical Monotheism; Oxford
Mark S. Smith; The Early History of God, Harper & Row
Yonatan Adler; The Origins of Judaism; Yale
John J. Collins; The Invention of Judaism; University of California Press
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matthew is not mattyhwh, but of Maat= maat-é
The jewish faith, used to be a sub cult of ba'al worship. It evolved out of it.
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I am of Lebanese blood, my family emigrated from the city of Sidon 50 years ago. It is a fascinating place with two crusaders castles, a monastery from that era, a mosque that was built by the crusaders as a church and later converted, a Phoenician temple, among other things. The name Baal (pronounced Ba'al) is still invoked today to refer to land where the crops are naturally grown (what you call organic), and the land is never watered. Such crops like olives for example are considered the best since watering is considered to dilute the oil. I used to hear farmers referring to such crops as "ala Ba'al" which literally means grown by Baal. The term is still used till today.
Baal is a demon
Everyone asks who is Baal, but no one asks how is Baal 😢
He is doing very well plenty of human sacrifice right now to please him by his chosen ones.
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I wish you could like comments more than once, one is insufficient, ppl need to understand the sheer volume of like happening rn
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Big mongoloid take.
I'll do you one better. WHY is Baal?
This is some next-level truth-telling. Excellent insight for serious researchers.
I love when I click on Centre Place videos and it's John speaking. Immediately feel relief
Excellent! One of the most worthwhile destinations on YT. Thank you so much!
Another fine Hamercopia of Knowledge tonight. I hope to see you all this Sunday 11/5/2023 for the next awesome lecture.
What is a hamercopia?
@@ChristyCallahan I think they meant Cornucopia?
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Abundance & Nourishment)
I don't know what hamercopia is unless it is not an English word.
@ChristyCallahan John Hamer is the pastor at Centre Place who presents these lectures. It's a portmanteau of "Hamer" and "Cornucopia"
I want to commend how you make biblical history come to life, this was a fascinating lecture. It is a shame these videos do not have a wider audience. You do not have to be religious to enjoy hearing these stories and histories.
Religion is a sham . It blinds people from the truth
biblical history ja ja ja that's a good one thank you.
I'm an atheist, and I enjoy these lectures. This is fascinating history.
His story whose story?
Your story, a fairytale, made up, by your own imagination, the G-d of the pantheon is....
YOURSELF!
@@JH-bf6qy God. Say God, the concept of the tetragrammaton is false piety. You have no problems breaking His other laws and commandments, but don't you dare eat pork, turn on a light on sabbath or say His name.
Thank you so much. This is a very timely lecture to understand what is happening in the Middle East right now... One really cannot understand the present without understanding the past.
Love this channel. Love the format. Thank you!
Glad you enjoy it!
Thanks!
I absolutely love these weekly lectures! They are so well done!
Big thanks for the hard and sometimes unappreciated work
This is the only channel I can watch on 1.75x speed lol I like that 👏
Listen John (Professor). You are doing the work of the Lord my friend. Thank you so much.
What lord? I think you religious people don't see reality, but a whole lot of non existing things from your imagination. It's scary...
You can replace that word Lord, with that hated word Baal, because that's what it means.
@@MrBlazingup420I was going to mention that. Perhaps they worship Baal.
@@nonprogrediestregredi1711all God's are one.
@@MisfitoXyou believe in nothing. Please tell me how to prove nothing. Then please explain to me why you feel the need to come and destroy other peoples faith to live in the confusion and misery of believing in nothing. Get those demons off you 😂😂😂😂😂😂
This guy is good, very good! I watched him on Mythvision and liked a lot. I'm a music teacher myself and respect good teachers. Community he's in (a version of Latter day's saints?) are privileged to have him. Word. Me out!
John's been on Mythvision? I've overlooked that one. I'll need to track it down.
@@seandalton6673 yes and it's in my opinion one of the best and very honest podcast.
This is great. Will definitely watch it again.
I love reading about biblical stories ❤ very interesting
Pantheon Reduction (Abbreviated Elohim) made simple. You made it easy Sir John Hamer. Thank you.
After me finding out about all of this I was happy since my name is Michael named after the arch angel and after losing my faith which I kind of never really had I always had doubts and thought I was bad for not really believing in the religion of my parents now I can see my name comes from the canaanite god El.
Great lecture
Many thanks!
Fascinating. Thank you.🙏❤️🙏
Glad you enjoyed it
This is a very scholarly approach to the reading and interpretation of the Bible.
I can't wait till you guys give a presentation on King Solomon
Baal had many followers - this was known as the "Baal movement."
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This is one of the best lecturers I've ever witnessed on this subject. You've masterfully explained the historical context, etymological importance & religious syncretism of each epithet used during specific periods of time. 😌🤌
Wow, lots of big fancy words you made me look. Up. I am now smarter.
@@douglaslegvold9215 I'm a numbskull. You're lucky I could remember the words I had used in my previous comment.
"Who Was Yahweh?" next.
This dude is the best!! Thanks!!!!
Very good info here! Glad I found your channel.
This was very interesting. Thank you.
I really love all the timelines and charts you have in your slides. Do you happen to have a repository of them online?
This is great! Thanks. 😊
Thank you for your study and this comprehensive information! 👏🏻
Can we get your notes?
Fascinating stuff around 40:00 about Hezekiah, and his successors switching back and forth between Ba'al and Yahweh worship, with the Yahweh worshipers getting punished and the Ba'll worshipers doing fine.
By the way, Hezekiah seems a lot like Akhenaten to me, now that I think of it. I religious reformer who took the country in a more monotheistic direction, only to have his reforms undone by his successor.
I instantly came to the same conclusion.
The seal of King Hezekiah, the dung beetle ( Khepera) and the winged Sun Disc ( Heru Behutet ) tells you is the Aten. This connects to the bloodline of the tribe of Judah which is Horite.
Akhenaten was a Horite, which is a bloodline and priesthood. Horites are followers of Heru and The Horites of Edom/Seir the Horite are the Horus Kings of Egypt. Manahath the Horite is Menes first dynasty of Egypt.
Falcon Clan
This is the secret bloodline of Jesus.
Salmon the Horite father of Bethlehem
Boaz ( pillar of masonry)
Obed
Jesse
David
Solomon
Jesus the Horite and the order of Melchizedek, the Jebusite=Horite
Judah was born in Haran and Haran was a Horite empire..
The Horites are from Mt Ararat. The people of Ar/Ra children of the Sun
Cannanites are Horites.
Yahweh is a Horite God.. The Shasu of Yahweh from Edom
Aten is definitely in the mix.
@@jimgraham6722 Read the Dream Stele, the Sphinx or Heru Em Akhet is the Aten. Akhenaten connection to the Bible is the bloodline and priesthood, the Horites.
Everything is revealed when you unravel the Horite bloodline
@@herukhuti8326Where can I get more info like this? The internet is full of misleads and other nonsense.
Excellent and satisfying
Fantastic audience questions.
the name of the rose is sooo good
these talks are always intresting
I love the little asides he does while narrating the Bible stories. He describes Elijah as "a pretty badass prophet" for having the altar prepped by dousing water on it three times before he calls down fire from Yahweh. Great lecture 😂
He was really dousing the altar with petrol/gas. That's why it went up in flames so quickly!
@@colinthomson5358that would smell too much. But it had to be something in it, yes
You are my Lord Jesus!
Please pray for all innocent dying
Tectauus is an interesting figure remembered as Baal and Shiva. I think he is recorded on the Sumerian King's list as Kullasina-bel. It would be a fitting title for the son of Perses/Tarshish/Jushur.
are you stupid or what. Shiva is the supreme deity. Read history first Deaus (Zeus) father of Indra, Indra his other name Marduk or Thor who is father of Baal. Don't make unhealthy comparisons, read Zoroastrian Jewish history first.
Shiva? Well he's Indian. Hindu God
@@manjulashanmugasundaram706 yep the Indus river valley is known to have traded with the ancient Sumerians and the Mittani who ruled for a time in Sumeria is thought to have roots or some religious and language connection to India. Tectauus is also called The Bull or the Horned Heracles who is considered possibly Gilgamesh. Tectauus is the son of Perses who was supposedly born in Nubia to Perseus. And Perses is supposed to be the first Pharaoh according to myth. Perses is also credited with building the small pyramids in Nubia. From my understanding his son Tectauus traveled the world from India to Europe teaching his father's religion of return to nature and that his father would return after dying, the dying and living again King concept. The constellation Taurus is named after Tectauus.
@@manjulashanmugasundaram706It has long been suggested that the Sumerians, who ruled in Lower Mesopotamia from circa 4500 to 1900 BCE and who spoke a non-Indo-European and non-Semitic language, may have initially come from India.
You are a good teacher,who teaches history of bible
Thanks
I have recently surmized that Baal is also the Sumerian God Marduk as well as the Egyptian God Ra/Rah. Does anyone else find this to be plausible?
In the Enuma Elish Marduk basically yanks Baal(called Hadad in the story)s title and function. Along with a lot of other gods.
But Baal and Marduk were both storm gods who became big shots in their own pantheons.
Ra being a sun god doesn't really fit though.
Baal isn't Marduk he's hadad.
The god of abrahamic religions is enlil.
Enki is portrayed as Satan
And Lilith is inanna.
Baal is worshipped throughout history along with these gods.
He's the bull
So he's been Zeus in Greece mars in Rome set in Egypt baal in Canaanite phoecian.
Inanna is the owl
So she's been
Minerva
Friegar
Lilith
Enki is the snake
Hence the snake always being a God of wisdom or knowledge.
Satan gave Adam and Eve the apple which gave them knowledge and wisdom?. Sound familiar lol.
Good on you for getting close to the truth tho
Great topic. Have wanted to know more about this for a long time.
It’s somewhat understandable, the time and resources people spent in ancient times worshipping Gods who did not exist. It was the only straw people had to grasp at. That people continue to engage in such folly in our present day, however, calls out for an explanation.
Another great lecture, sorry I missed it again!
Thank you ❤
The idea that what Elija put on the offering wasn't water but some flammable liquid makes the story hit way different.
This was excellent mate. I've read the Good Book twice from cover to cover (20 years apart) and what you say elucidates so much of what I remember from the oldest books. Thanks so much!
ps. are you perhaps not mispronouncing the name Baal? I did a quick check using Google translate: the limit of my scholarship.
I encourage you to read the non-canonical books as well, they have many details of note.
@@amelliamendel2227 I have skim-read some over the years, but the only topic which I made a study of was the dead sea scrolls. They (and the work of interpretation) impressed me tremendously.
What books do you recommend? Be warned though: it is not my field. As luck would have it I bumped into a Coptic monk in large, chain, stationery store a week ago and we discussed this same topic with regard to ancient manuscripts found scattered amongst their heirlooms, laying around here and there.
@@_pawterinteresting, wonde rebate else you have learned/rediscovered. Really there are too many people out there living a life completely ignorant to the past. Maybe you can check out my comment and chime in anything you heard of. Posted 2 questions.
Of course you don't have to be a biblical scholar to know that 'Bail' for Baal is an Americanism. Just as they torture Iraqis with the word 'Eyerach', and call Hitler 'Aydolph', to rhyme with 'hay'. Americans, I wanna be one - not!
@@ussromantics. I would venture to say that we (Americans) don’t care if you want to be one of US or not…
great lecture well documented very scholarly.
This reminds me of Shelley Eagle and Snake Poem.
Snake wrapping around a pole is called a "caduceus" a Magic Staff of Hermes.
Awesome presentation!
I have to read Shelley tomorrow.
The lecture is great - the buzzing sound is awful.
Baal demon fertility one , ? PRAYING
Rather than movement from polytheism to henotheism to monotheism, it could be in reverse with repeated reversion to polytheism. EL being the original monotheist God.
Do you have a lecture about blood sacrifice in general? My biggest hangup with Christianity was that it relies completely on blood sacrifice (something innocent must die to purify guilt) rather than a propitiatory system (undo the wrong you committed) which makes me wonder why God preferred such a practice/system?
Very informative. Hebrew Israelites need to hear this (speaking as a Muslimah!)
Baal is an Arab ddeity, the son of ALLH in the old Arab mythology. Palestine itself was named after him, Pali-Stan
Great info! I would make a comment on the caduceus. It was originally a symbol of the Kundalini energy that are the 2 energy symbols of the body. It is also the seven seals mentioned in the book of Revelations. Thank you!
Baal was the third son of Yahwey, when Yahwey divided the earth between his 70 sons, elders, Baal got Lebanon Sumeria and Akkadia,, Lebanon being the home of Baalbek, Yahwey's home and Baalport for his travel.
😂😂😂😂😂 where do you get this false information?
@@kyalokamina6497Baalbek is 38 miles NE of Beirut and Baalport is adjacent to the SE, in the Hebrew Bible there were 40 Elders, 70 in the New Testament and via the Kings List of which there are some 7 identical copies we know who is who and Oxford University has at least one. We know the history of each in great detail.
The Jews plan on rebuilding Yahwey's house Baalbek after the Temple and restoring Baalport .
Funny how the title makes it seems like baal still isn't around anymore...
Amazing 😮
Did the god name Mot evolve to the later word "mort" for death, or did Mot get named from ruling over the phenomenon of death/mort ?
Thank you, very interesting.
I have a few Questions, if anyone can share some light on...
- Wasn't the first depictions of the Caduceus shown throughout ancient Summeria? Which is dated as the oldest recorded civilization being 6,000-15,000 years old. I am not sure how old were those depicted carvings dated specifically though. Was it influence by the story of moses? People still debate on WHEN Moses actually lived or was it prophetic references for a future event? Also, Ancient Summeria is older than Ancient Egypt, in which we can see Toth holding what looks like a Caduceus staff with 2 snakes. In addition, within Satanism, the Baphomet also has the Caduceus near his stomach.
I find it funny that the medical industry loves to use the Caduceus, the rod of Aescelapian, symbolizing commerce! Ha, the big pharma mafia's play on symbols were a human error? In my humble opinion, I don't think we'll educated individuals / organizations accidentally choosen it. This seems like a stretch and more so a deliberate action. Maybe...it was the sinister acts of Baal? Even the image of this entity is drawn with horns, which has striking resemblance to jinn / shayateen / demons (having the ability of choice like humans, and are known to cause mischief throughout history.) Not to go too much on q tagent, but lets not forget the line is very very fine when refering to science & magic.
- Could Hadad and Zeus be the same entity? Such striking resemblance with the lighting/thunder notations.
- When would you say the early works of the Torah are spread during Jeremiah's days of 640-570 BCE?
I have heard that the Torah was "lost" for quite some time, would this be the historical references? Could you conclude a time frame of wheb the Torah was lost by archeological data? If not then when can you conclude through religious primary, secondary, and third sources of it being lost?
Hmmmm, Interesting...
A lot of questions
Sumerian was like 4000BC so older
Adad is Ninurta brother
Enlil sons
Ninurta is highest ranking
I see him as Michael
Son of the “Dbl seed” and royal blood
They took half sisters as wives
Abraham and Sarah were also half siblings
Enki and Enlil are like Zeus and Poseidon and they had descendants with half sibling as well
With Ninmah
But what I know and how interpret
Is all of these gods are angels with different ranking
Enki clan was Egypt and Enlil was more eastern/Mesopotamia
Baal is most likely referring to Lucifer who was known as Marduk/Amun Ra and most likely Ahura Mazda by Persians
Lucifer is Aries the Ram the son of Zeus
Who i believe is Enki
And Yahweh is most likely Enlil son Ninurta or Enlil
Enlil might have been El
with Enlil being represented as bull
His Zodiac and time of rule came first age of Taurus
And then age of Ram which was Lucifer and then Pisces which was Jesus era till about now and now we just recently entered Aquarius
Moses led the Hebrew out of Egypt which was Marduk/Lucifer/Baal/Ra territory maybe 3500 years ago
1000-1500bc
And it seems with first temple Judaism was 2 factions both with hierarchy of gods
With 1 having Baal at top and the other with Yahweh
With Baal trying to manipulate the more eastern Mesopotamia world trying to gain control over earth
Where I believe the Persians were influenced by Lucifer
And I believe Islam was also
With the intent of steering away from Jesus
The Jews don’t recognize the savior
The Catholics pretend to while still following Greek/Roman pantheon and the Muslims are steered away from Jesus
I believe all fabricated by Lucifer or a descendant
Which the Persian descendants seem to be
Cyrus, Darius Xerxes
But Abraham seems to be descendant of Enki/Zeus
Who is father of Lucifer
The Enlil clan with Ninurta have more power
But the bloodlines are through Zeus and Lucifer
Lucifer also took women as wives just like fallen angels
Fallen angels are not of royal blood though
with Lucifer being royalty
Set and Osiris are Lucifer’s offspring
some interesting similarities between Baal Hadad, Indra and Thor. all rides in the sky and are associated rain/thunder/lightning/storm, all use a hammer/cudgel/club/mace, all fight a sea/water creature that is in the shape of a serpent/dragon.
Marduk as well.
What a load of baals 😊😊
Is Balim a theophoric Ba'al name?
He was my 6th grade homeroom teacher.
From Abhijit vartak , pune , India - is he the same personality, after whom ' balbek ' is named ?
If it is so , his existence , influence will go back to period of gobekley tepe .
What does it mean to absorb another god? How does that happen if gods can't die?
Elohim is plural, meaning Gods. A very important difference.
Some commenters seem to not have actually paid attention during this presentation.
Israel means struggles with El. That's just priceless 😂
It literally means the Captive of GOD
Baal is the pipe of the mountain of god (volcano). In Hebrew he is called lord, the mountain is called the father and the physical representation of god as a gigantic rock outcrop that sits above the volcano's pipe (baal) on the crater holds the name god.
I wish I could acquire a pocket-sized you to pull out whenever I have a question. 🤔
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Baal to me was always Bull as El. In mythology some saw Baal as a son of El but others saw Baal as a son of Dagan. I enjoy seeing the similarities between Yahweh and Baal.
Ba'al is the Dog-Headed Goddess Bau-Gula, she is the mother of the dying and rising god of healing known as Damu, a name that means blood, brother or relative. Damu was known as the Swine star, the head of Draco, where it got its name from Dagon, the grain god, the head of Draco is shaped like a seed cup, it was part of the world plow, invented by Dagon. Draco was seen as Taweret, goddess of childbirth, Ba'al-Seth was the Big Dipper known as the Thigh of the Ox Leg, Ursa Minor was the Standing Wolf, Polaris The Dog's Tail, The Goddess Bau-Gula was seen as the star Vega, our Pole Star 12,000 years ago, as the Dog's Tail is our pole star today.
The Sumerian word Ur means Dog, Taweret's hand rests on the sa sign, 𓎃, a hieroglyph that means 'protection' or 'lifesaver'. The goddess Taweret, portrayed as a bipedal hippopotamus with limbs like those of a feline. The Hippo was called Water Pigs, the same thing as a swine, the word Urgula means both Lion and Great Dog, Urgula is the name of Leo.
The right leg of Orion would be the Thigh cut off by Horus, the bright star at the tip of Orion's sword, Hatysa is placed on the thigh of Orion, it means Slaughter, as Gohatya means Cow Killer, but read backwards it means "Savior of Sinners", haat means 'to sin', yasa means 'savior'.
If you place Hatysa on the western horizon, seen as Death, it places Alula at mid-heaven, Alula means First Born, it is the right leg of Ursa Major, where you find the 7 main stars, we call the Big Dipper, the Alula is the thumb on a wing, the thumb is a symbol of Judgement, wings are symbols of Messengers, it take 7 hours for Alula to fall from mid-heaven to the horizon, when Alula is replaced by the Dog-headed Goddess Bau-Gula, which is the star alignment seen Christmas day at 12:00 noon, when the sun is in Sagittarius, known as Pabilsag, the father of Damu, in Sumerian, his name means Chief Ancestor, in Astrology, Sagittarius is the hips and Thighs, my short version.
The words "They All Rule" played in reverse will echo "Orion" the words "Say There Is A Guest" will echo Sagittarius. In Irish, echo is the word macalla, in Hebrew its Batkol, "Voice of God", bat means daughter, kol means voice, as mac means son, alla means Shout, but Alla is the ancient god associated with Damu, in Hebrew, Makala means "Who is like God".
I've just showed you the birthday alignment of Lewallyn Roger Cupps-McCullough.
Lewallyn means "Like a Lion/Ruling"
Roger means Famous Spear, but also penis, (Sword of Orion)
Cupps, Cupla means Twin, Alula is one of 3 sets on twin stars that create the paws of Ursa Major.
McCullough means Son of the Hound of Ulster and Son of the Boar.
September 4th to 8th 2040, when all the Visible planets align with Spica the hand star of Virgo, looking like a Spear/Sword in her hand
"Her Mithras, Boy/Girl" played in reverse will echo "Virgo, September"
Virgo is Latin for virgin, a word that hides Man/Woman, 'vir' is Latin for Man, 'gyne' (gin) is Greek for Woman, and Mithras is the Gohatya "Cow Killer".
Well you're going to get a kick out of this. Cross check these lists. These are different names or epithets of particular deities worshipped by different groups.
Yahweh is the planet Saturn. Also known as El.
Saturn _(Roman)_ is Remphan/Kronos/Chronos _(Greek),_ Utu/Chemosh/Shemash _(Akkadian),_ Anu/Anshar _(Sumerian),_ Geb/Seb _(Kemet),_ Ildabaoth/Yaldaboath _(Gnosticism),_ Nimrod _(Babylon),_ Molech/Moloch/Ba'al/Moab/Sikkuth/Chiun/Kiyyun/Solomon/David/El _(Canaanite & Pheonician formerly Pharasaism/Judaism properly known as "Judaist")._
Saturn symbols are ⚛🔯✡☪️. Golden calf, Bull, Bull horns, Peacock, Hamsa & Stag horns. Also the Black cube, Santa Claus, Fern tree, Lord of the Rings & Grim Reaper. You can also look up corporate Saturn logos.
Enlil is Ba'al/Bel/Marduk _(Canaanite)_ & Ba'al Zevuv/Beelzebub _(Philistine)._
His other epithets are Asshur _(Sumerian),_ Amun-Ra _(Egyptian/Khemet),_ Zeus _(Greek),_ Jupiter/St. Peter _(Roman),_ Indra _(Sanskrit),_ Vishnu _(Hindi),_ Tlaloc _(Mayan),_ Catequil/Pilan _(Incan),_ Thor/Donar _(Nordic),_ Dazhbog _(Slavonic),_ Ilma _(Finno-Ugric),_ Dagda _(Celtic)._
Where does Al Lah and Islam fit into the pagan practice.
You missed HANNIBAL
The last boss of act 5 right?
Baal worship is alive and thriving.
That's what I'm sayin
Nice
You guys are complaining about Saturn/EL/Moloch not baal, if we wanted to be objective jesus IS Jupiter who is associated with baal
So where/when is "Who Was Yahweh?"
You were answering a question pertaining to the relic that was destroyed and it's connection to the serpent in the Garden.
The Nachash.
There was a backslash against the worship of the angel Metatron, this is referred to in the Talmud where Metatron receives 60 strokes by fiery rods to prove to Elisha ben Abuyah that he isn't a god.
Is Baal the Stock Market? 🤔
Asherah sounds so similar to Ahura (Mazda). I wonder if there may be some connection.
The story of Elijah pouring jugs of water on wood which then suddenly catches fire reads like a majician's trick. Consider the possibility that the story's author knew that distilled alcohol can be made in a way that it is as clear as water. A spark which was hidden from sight could suddenly ignite the fire. Look at 1 kings 18:38. "The fire of the Lorld ........ licked up the water in the trench"
Nice but so who was baal
Which is which? He was the junior divinity not alloted his own house of the zodiac. Which means he is associated with one of the celestial objects on a polar orbit at the equinoxes -- the "Axis." So, for example, when God said "Let there be light" and Agni (Fire) was the first word of the Rig Veda -- around 4500 BC -- Baal was associated with Orion and Taurus, where those signs separate from Gemini. Some 6,538 years prior, he had been at Leo-Virgo. So the ancients, notably the Ojuelans of Mexico, the Hindu and the Etruscans, knew that Ekpyrosis comes four times a Precession. And, since Baal showed up last time when this "Right Hand of the Father" was the Vernal Equinox ... and today he is the Summer Solstice ... we should probably be seriously concerned.
The zodiac (with Baal) has moved 90 degrees. Six hours of right ascension. Ganesh was associated with the 1st of Aries (Zero degrees R.A.), as was Thoth. If you are looking for a Yahweh connection, study Jupiter who is currently in the House of Aries. He was the Sign of the Word in 2010 and 2022. Jupiter was the Yod. And the Yod-Hey was Jupiter at the heart of Aquarius, where he was with the Sun Feb 28 2010 and Mar 5 2022. Now we await the Vav-Hey to complete the Divine Name. Which, I believe, will be that initial object who gets thrown down in advance of the arrival of the New Sun. A la Isaiah 14.
El, on the other hand, was probably Saturn ... who acts as our north star in this time. Saturn was the hour hand of the cosmos. Jupiter the minute hand (whose 'alarm' goes off near when Monoceros points at him). In other words, between now and next September.
Last month, we saw a couple of big signs. This month, Mars and Horus reach for the Scales of Justice. In April to May we have Jacob's Ladder or the Sign of Jonas or the Boat of the Sun. In May, we have the tauroctony of the Epic of Gilgamesh. So yeah. Expect Apocalypse and Genesis. Nova is coming. Superflare is coming. Pole shift is coming. Best of luck!
Would Seraphim be from the word “Saraf” Saraph ? A kind of snake ? With wings ? Saraph Meophef ?
Seraphim. Yes, absolutely. Combined with the idea of "burning" or being "on fire." These are the "burning ones." Winged Serpent like guardians of God's throne of which the Nachash in the garden of Eden was a rebellious member.
Very good catch on your part.
Modern interpretation interpret the snake on the staff of medicine as representing the extremely controlled and careful use of poisons as medicines .
I always thinked there is a connection between El, Bel and Baal. Gods evolves, splits, modifies names, attributes and functions..
does the etymological interpretation of the name israel to be "isis ra elohim" have any merit to it?
Is Israel the name of the people or is Elija praying for "thoughts who struggle with El" and through repetition because the people were so unfortunate they took on the name.
Cutting down sacred trees is truly bad form. This is why I am a buddhist, not a christian. Among other reasons. I like this speaker though. John Hamer.
What has an Old testament text about burning sacred trees to do with Christians today? Nothing.
Hebrew Bible = (old testament) tells about an ancient religion that is neither Judaism nor Christianity.
This is kind of a funny statement if you know your Indian history, because Buddhist kings and emperors in India ALSO cut down sacred groves and tore down fire altars and funerary towers under the direction of their monks.
Christ means the Anointed One, the Messiah from the Greek word 'charisma" referring to the outpouring, the unction, the anointing ( preparation for burial , rubbing in and on of myrrh) of the Holy Spirit. The fullness of the Holy Spirit rested on Jesus at His baptism. John 3:22-36. All praise and glory to the Coming King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
Adonai is possesive not plural,plural would be Adonim
And elohim can not be translated as god. It is also plural.
And femininum...
@@JH-bf6qy im suffix is masculine, feminine would end ot or at ,like as in daughters בנות banot
Wasn't he the guy with one arm in that b movie Metalstorm.
Aren’t Ba’al and Yahweh Twins?
They are one an the same but his minions would have you believe something else as is not convenient for the narrative they are selling today
and the day would come when you no longer call me baal.
Father and son.
In truth baal was a generic term for lord, & there was many lords just as there is today. I assume since your talking about thee one baal that its referring to baal zehabab or the lord of the fly.Who was sometimes just called lord by some?
Where is Baal??
Why moves have cross
Curious ,where does the name jehovah come from?
From early English translations.
Do one on Hellenised Jews. That follows the Phoenician-Jew conflicts this covers. They seemed to adopt hellenistic ways more readily.