You seem a bit dissapointed. The crowd needed much time to go warm up. Maybe a lot of them had to go home early. It’s not always your fault. You did a great job! I do think you could have made a bigger impact with more subs and much stronger moving heads. With those bright lightbars the movers seem to be overwhelmed.
Something to note about that circuit tester, just because it shows that they are both on the same circuit doesn't actually mean they are on the same. All it is testing is if the hot side is independent between 2 circuits. But it can't test wether they are independent on the same leg. Because when testing 2 outlets it will only show if the circuit 'good' if they are on different sides of the breaker box. If the outlets may be on the same side of the breaker box and are separate circuits yet the tester will show that it is not an individual circuit. Two independent circuits on the same leg is no different for us than on different legs. Problem is, using that device can make someone hunt around for one it shows is separate and make longer unnecessary power runs. It works but misses separate circuits at least 50% of the time depending on the main feed into the building. They admitted to me that it has the limitations I just mentioned and never thought someone would figure it out.
I did DJ for a school disco this weekend. It is my one DJ gig a year as it is a hobby for me. I use VirtualDJ and Soundswitch, and I not only have my own lights (a couple of small movers, pars, a bar and pinspots) but I also integrate the lights the school has in the hall. Makes for a great light show to go with the music.
Dude you could have run a lot more lighting on a 20 amp circuit for sure! Definitely needed MORE pix bars and more moving heads! Also, I think you should switch to the WDMX Controller (the Wolf Mix one) definitely will result in more dynamic and engaging lighting looks!!
The circuit tester is a good add to the kit, but I would pair it with something like the klein tools fuse finder. Also I always like to make sure myself or one of the techs knows amd has access to the location of the fusebox and light controls of the location
Nice video as always bro.. very informative. thank you for the circuit search, doing a winter formal in a few weeks and will be looking for that circuit testers within the next few days!!!!
I love how high school dances today pretty much consists of music that older Millennial generation was listening to in high school and college. Basically, most of the good danceable music is from 13 to 20+ years ago.
About to purchase the Pix Bars. Any recommendations on how I can mount them to mic stands? Or any stand recommendations other than using clamps? Thank you!
reverberant space.... for me the solution it would be more speakers spreaded with lower volume, raised and pointing to the crowd... of course maintaining the delays...
@@DJILLEE yes it does... the sound is reflected by the walls.... more output, more ping-pong reflections from the walls so more echoes :D It's just physics :D Using LD Maui in such ambient is a bad choice
@@voxproevents6405 reverberation time time is measured using the RT60 measurement. You use a sound meter to measure when a reverberation tail drops by 60db from the original source sound. That means the starting point is irrelevant. It’s independent of the sound pressure level. In fact, when the source volume can’t be amplified enough or the background noise level is too high we use a measurement of RT30 or RT20 and you multiply it by 2 or 3 respectively to get your RT60 rating. My background (besides being a dj) is in sound engineering, system deployments and system tuning. I tune large sound systems for theaters and concert venues and I measure everything in in the venue for phase/time alignment, reverberation times, reverberation frequency plots and overall eqs for the system processors. I even create impulse responses of the particular rooms so if recordings made in those rooms need parts re-recorded in a studio you can “place” those parts back in the room with the original recordings. Line arrays would be a better choice in this type of room so you can throw the sound further backwards, direct the sound away from reflective surfaces such as the ceiling and possibly walls, as well as shade it from front to back. With a line array you most likely wouldn’t need delay towers in that size of room. However, schools do not have this kind of budget and for the most part, no one cares that much about the audio quality to even justify this there. With what he had, I think this deployment is just fine.
Rick, awesome gig log again. Love the pix bar lights. I saw a video a month ago where you used the A.I force 1 dmx hardware. I’m working with a xz, rekordbox and dashlight 5 at the moment and for smaller gigs lightrider. I’m searching something more easier and faster to use than dashlight. Did you like force 1. How does it did the job with movers? Is it something like lightrider or better? I wish I could switch to soundswitch but its in Serato environment. I’m planning to buy those pix bar at your website.
Hey Rick! Great video as always very instructive, i want to ask you how you did the config for delayed speakers? i have a PA2 but it only have a max of 3,43 meters of delay and in the video looks like if the speakers were furthest, how did you calculate distance or ms to apply? and PA" was enough in this case? it would be great if you can explain or better do a video about it thank you!!
I put out a song request table so that they can put down their requests, which allows me ignore 95% of it. Keep it all upbeat and positive and songs everyone knows. It’s not that much different from weddings in philosophy.
So yeah man for this event you DID need a LOT more lighting! Par washes on crank stands behind you, and at least your two BOTH Zooming washes, in addition to more moving spots!
lighting was def weak, not to mention the programming of the 2 moving heads they were pointed at the ceiling & the walls most of the time lol pix bars would be dope for a back drop on a stage or something def would not use them for something like this
Kinda like the pixel bars. The blinders being on battery alone is a pretty nice add, though don't think this was the right use of them. Probably would have helped to speed them up, too. A crowd like this you've gotta give them mic work. You saw the reaction when you did. They needed guidance, and the people in the back needed some connection with them being so far away. They were clearly ready to rage, you just had to find that connection with them. And do a little more research on the new music they like - some missed opportunities unless the school said outright you couldn't play them, but given you dropped Mo Bamba...I doubt it.
I definetly think that mic work was the cause of this. Too bad showout couldnt have been here to hype it up. With schools music only goes so far, you have to work the crowd with the mic.
What’s the reason for running the LD Icoa PA over your JBL SRX/VRX rig? The JBL PA looks to be a lot more powerful and better suited to this gig. Not hating but genuinely curious
I think cause he just got these speakers and he's testing them out but yeah these icoa's are not loud enough for 1000 people at all and the Srx/vrx setup would be way more sutable for this event (lol you can hear people sing over the music thats how you can tell its not loud enough the subs are ok for that room but tops hell no😂)
Seems a little underwhelming compared to previous events? Lack of moving heads and other beam effects seems a waste of bearing in mind you could use the hazer.
2 tops are plenty if deployed right with the right spl. for 1k in a large room 4 subs is ideal. Check out my gig log from my 900 kid prom I talk more about it
Well at some points you can hear the people sing over the music lol but hell no its not loud enough these are begginer tops and for 1k people you will need a bigger setup so you have the volume, headroom and quality and so its not on limit all the time lol😂
@@djnvision What everyone things is 'enough' for a venue, is going to vary. I do a 600ish student prom every year, and we bring four RCF TTL6 tops, and four RCF 9006 subs.
Question: How often do you run into issues getting permission to use smoke/haze machines. Lately I feel like I am getting a lot of nos from venues because of concerns it will trigger automatic fire alarms
Yes severely underpowered system for this size of a venue and this many people.. You should be running 6x6 minimum (6pa/6sub) and probably line arrays..
@@agatecard5587 You need two back fills and two side fills with how long that hallway is, how far the listeners are away, And how many people are attending..
@@agatecard5587 good point and know that line array cost allot and many school don't have budget for that. thus you make dure with what you can to match their budget and make a decent profit. having a L.A system is pointless if there is not enough clients to pay for it. return on investment sill be a B@#$ 😆
Damn that crowd was lame. And imo those light bars really did nothing when the kids drowned out all the lighting. Def needed uplighting or movers, hell even a gigbar or some wash lights. Maybe from down on the floor it looked good but from aerial view this didn’t look all that appealing.
I don’t understand why everyone likes those light bars, they are ugly, def not for a big school dance like this and have barely any coverage. Should of went with uplights around the gym.
To be honest, this looks no where near 1,000 students in the room. Maybe 350-400 at one point in the video. I guess the other students just stood around outside talking or did not attend the dance.
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You seem a bit dissapointed. The crowd needed much time to go warm up. Maybe a lot of them had to go home early. It’s not always your fault. You did a great job! I do think you could have made a bigger impact with more subs and much stronger moving heads. With those bright lightbars the movers seem to be overwhelmed.
Something to note about that circuit tester, just because it shows that they are both on the same circuit doesn't actually mean they are on the same.
All it is testing is if the hot side is independent between 2 circuits. But it can't test wether they are independent on the same leg.
Because when testing 2 outlets it will only show if the circuit 'good' if they are on different sides of the breaker box.
If the outlets may be on the same side of the breaker box and are separate circuits yet the tester will show that it is not an individual circuit.
Two independent circuits on the same leg is no different for us than on different legs. Problem is, using that device can make someone hunt around for one it shows is separate and make longer unnecessary power runs. It works but misses separate circuits at least 50% of the time depending on the main feed into the building.
They admitted to me that it has the limitations I just mentioned and never thought someone would figure it out.
Im not even a electrician n figured this was the case. No way it can actually verify 100% of the time if two outlets are on the same breaker or not.
I did DJ for a school disco this weekend. It is my one DJ gig a year as it is a hobby for me. I use VirtualDJ and Soundswitch, and I not only have my own lights (a couple of small movers, pars, a bar and pinspots) but I also integrate the lights the school has in the hall. Makes for a great light show to go with the music.
This venue is for a line array sound system my firend...point source have their own limitations...and more powerfull lights all over the people...
I think if the budget is limited, He did excellent work. ❤
Hmmm...seems like they all enjoyed themselves. These schools dont have the budget for line arrays. If the kids can hear it then that's what matters.
Just because the space needs a bigger setup doesn't always mean the client has the budget for it. Never give shit away for free.
@ihatesigningupforsht Excellent I think in the same way.
Bring the bass and tops or stay at home I cannot believe you would use such a small system for that many people
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Dude you could have run a lot more lighting on a 20 amp circuit for sure! Definitely needed MORE pix bars and more moving heads! Also, I think you should switch to the WDMX Controller (the Wolf Mix one) definitely will result in more dynamic and engaging lighting looks!!
The circuit tester is a good add to the kit, but I would pair it with something like the klein tools fuse finder. Also I always like to make sure myself or one of the techs knows amd has access to the location of the fusebox and light controls of the location
Subs good. Tops terrible.
Nice video as always bro.. very informative. thank you for the circuit search, doing a winter formal in a few weeks and will be looking for that circuit testers within the next few days!!!!
Singles ladies at a school dance is crazy 😂
I love how high school dances today pretty much consists of music that older Millennial generation was listening to in high school and college. Basically, most of the good danceable music is from 13 to 20+ years ago.
Yea that’s how pa is lol but they do like the new stuff too. So we have to throw a couple in there it just have to be the clean version.
Amazing video as always !!
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About to purchase the Pix Bars. Any recommendations on how I can mount them to mic stands? Or any stand recommendations other than using clamps? Thank you!
Gravity / speaker stands use oclamps
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reverberant space.... for me the solution it would be more speakers spreaded with lower volume, raised and pointing to the crowd... of course maintaining the delays...
Less volume doesn't mean less reverberance.
@@DJILLEE yes it does... the sound is reflected by the walls.... more output, more ping-pong reflections from the walls so more echoes :D It's just physics :D Using LD Maui in such ambient is a bad choice
@@voxproevents6405 reverberation time time is measured using the RT60 measurement. You use a sound meter to measure when a reverberation tail drops by 60db from the original source sound. That means the starting point is irrelevant. It’s independent of the sound pressure level. In fact, when the source volume can’t be amplified enough or the background noise level is too high we use a measurement of RT30 or RT20 and you multiply it by 2 or 3 respectively to get your RT60 rating.
My background (besides being a dj) is in sound engineering, system deployments and system tuning. I tune large sound systems for theaters and concert venues and I measure everything in in the venue for phase/time alignment, reverberation times, reverberation frequency plots and overall eqs for the system processors. I even create impulse responses of the particular rooms so if recordings made in those rooms need parts re-recorded in a studio you can “place” those parts back in the room with the original recordings.
Line arrays would be a better choice in this type of room so you can throw the sound further backwards, direct the sound away from reflective surfaces such as the ceiling and possibly walls, as well as shade it from front to back. With a line array you most likely wouldn’t need delay towers in that size of room. However, schools do not have this kind of budget and for the most part, no one cares that much about the audio quality to even justify this there. With what he had, I think this deployment is just fine.
Rick, awesome gig log again. Love the pix bar lights. I saw a video a month ago where you used the A.I force 1 dmx hardware. I’m working with a xz, rekordbox and dashlight 5 at the moment and for smaller gigs lightrider. I’m searching something more easier and faster to use than dashlight. Did you like force 1. How does it did the job with movers? Is it something like lightrider or better? I wish I could switch to soundswitch but its in Serato environment. I’m planning to buy those pix bar at your website.
Not sure. I only use soundswitch now
Hey Rick! Great video as always very instructive, i want to ask you how you did the config for delayed speakers? i have a PA2 but it only have a max of 3,43 meters of delay and in the video looks like if the speakers were furthest, how did you calculate distance or ms to apply? and PA" was enough in this case? it would be great if you can explain or better do a video about it
thank you!!
Just maxed it out and called it good enough
I put out a song request table so that they can put down their requests, which allows me ignore 95% of it. Keep it all upbeat and positive and songs everyone knows. It’s not that much different from weddings in philosophy.
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So yeah man for this event you DID need a LOT more lighting!
Par washes on crank stands behind you, and at least your two BOTH Zooming washes, in addition to more moving spots!
No only paid for movers. I brought some extras
lighting was def weak, not to mention the programming of the 2 moving heads they were pointed at the ceiling & the walls most of the time lol pix bars would be dope for a back drop on a stage or something def would not use them for something like this
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Kinda like the pixel bars. The blinders being on battery alone is a pretty nice add, though don't think this was the right use of them. Probably would have helped to speed them up, too.
A crowd like this you've gotta give them mic work. You saw the reaction when you did. They needed guidance, and the people in the back needed some connection with them being so far away. They were clearly ready to rage, you just had to find that connection with them. And do a little more research on the new music they like - some missed opportunities unless the school said outright you couldn't play them, but given you dropped Mo Bamba...I doubt it.
I definetly think that mic work was the cause of this. Too bad showout couldnt have been here to hype it up. With schools music only goes so far, you have to work the crowd with the mic.
About the Audioissue. Ever trieb a Zoom H5/6 or so?
IT can rekord the room and clean Audio from thr Decks in separate Files.
Audio was on camera mic side. Like wasnt on
What’s the reason for running the LD Icoa PA over your JBL SRX/VRX rig? The JBL PA looks to be a lot more powerful and better suited to this gig. Not hating but genuinely curious
I think cause he just got these speakers and he's testing them out but yeah these icoa's are not loud enough for 1000 people at all and the Srx/vrx setup would be way more sutable for this event (lol you can hear people sing over the music thats how you can tell its not loud enough the subs are ok for that room but tops hell no😂)
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Seems a little underwhelming compared to previous events? Lack of moving heads and other beam effects seems a waste of bearing in mind you could use the hazer.
Hazer wasnt aloud
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Do you recommend LD system icoas over EV ekx or qsc k12.2?
Nope
Subs pretty much same shit, but the icoa tops is not even close to the ekx 15p
#squad pop went hard, hip hop went hard, edm 120s type beats were not it for this crowd but yea the front was lit
cana Driverack PA2 work with powered speakers? (specifically studio monitors)
Yes. Not sure why you would want to though.
@@matthewbohn765 to have a more dynamic sound
How did the pa handle those 1k people?
2 tops and 2 18s is a little weak for 1k i think
2 tops are plenty if deployed right with the right spl. for 1k in a large room 4 subs is ideal. Check out my gig log from my 900 kid prom I talk more about it
Well at some points you can hear the people sing over the music lol but hell no its not loud enough these are begginer tops and for 1k people you will need a bigger setup so you have the volume, headroom and quality and so its not on limit all the time lol😂
@@thewhitewolf2687thats what i thought
Im using 2 of my 3 way tops 15/6/1inch and minimum 4 subs with 18sw115 from b&c für 1k
@@djnvision What everyone things is 'enough' for a venue, is going to vary. I do a 600ish student prom every year, and we bring four RCF TTL6 tops, and four RCF 9006 subs.
Why not just use a power distro and connect straight to the box
Question: How often do you run into issues getting permission to use smoke/haze machines. Lately I feel like I am getting a lot of nos from venues because of concerns it will trigger automatic fire alarms
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Curious of that DMX transmitter. Would it work with donner receivers?
Yes works directly with them
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Lookin Good! How bright are they?
How worried were you those kids would be hanging onto those 44’s??
um it was a lot standing and walking around.
Dope lighting bro. Killer sound
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man those kids don't know how to party. But i love those pixel lights awesome.
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Yes severely underpowered system for this size of a venue and this many people.. You should be running 6x6 minimum (6pa/6sub) and probably line arrays..
why 6x6? 4x4 or 8x8, 6x6 pointless for that event
@@agatecard5587 You need two back fills and two side fills with how long that hallway is, how far the listeners are away, And how many people are attending..
@@agatecard5587 good point and know that line array cost allot and many school don't have budget for that. thus you make dure with what you can to match their budget and make a decent profit. having a L.A system is pointless if there is not enough clients to pay for it. return on investment sill be a B@#$ 😆
I deejayed a 780 student summer dance back in 2017 in a big conference center ball room with 4 speakers and 2 subs, and had plenty of volume.
@@djrickyb general rule of thumb is one speaker for every 100 people.. so again way underpowered
Hey @DJRickWeb How u calculate how much delay to put on the speakers?
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So set list has no fees to download?
Correct. Link in description
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You could do better with the lighting show, brother .
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They didnt pay for any of that. I brought more for them.
Damn that crowd was lame. And imo those light bars really did nothing when the kids drowned out all the lighting. Def needed uplighting or movers, hell even a gigbar or some wash lights. Maybe from down on the floor it looked good but from aerial view this didn’t look all that appealing.
I don’t understand why everyone likes those light bars, they are ugly, def not for a big school dance like this and have barely any coverage. Should of went with uplights around the gym.
Correction i see the movers but they are being overshadowed by those light bars.
are you serious 1000 people?? divide that by 4. if you're lucky you have 300 people. and the system you had is perfect for 300 people.
Sold 1000 tickets. The room was incredibly long. So 80% show up and 50% actually dance. Yeah about right lol
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To be honest, this looks no where near 1,000 students in the room. Maybe 350-400 at one point in the video. I guess the other students just stood around outside talking or did not attend the dance.
Yep 1000 tickets sold. Room was packed all the way in the back
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