@@Garrulous64 no. sonic will just know about it, then eggman makes a machine that makes sonic forget almost everything, then he has a mental break down, asking himself "who am i" and then everyone who sonic is friends with will tell him "you are a hero. a whole new hero... of speed" and then sonic beats up eggman, shooting him with an ak47. this is true, my dad's friend's uncle works for the movie.
Ray should be able to do a barrel roll while gliding and after Barrel Roll he gets an extreme speed boost and dashes forward for a while (in air of course) Mighty should get smtnhg like Bounce Attack from SA2
Really wish the Homing Shield from Sonic 3D Blast made its way over in Mania alongside the other Elemental Shields. As for the QOTD, it would’ve been really cool for Mighty to retain his ability to store and switch between shields on the fly, just like in Sonic MegaMix. For Ray though, he’s just fine as he is in Mania Plus. For everyone else besides Sonic, I’d give them access to the Elemental Shields movement abilities, just for how figuratively game-breaking some of the potential matchups could be.
I would give Mighty wall jump from Chaotix and change the levels to utilize it, like with Knuckles. I would give Ray some sort of special jump for activating his flight which doesn’t go as high but gives some momentum
I think Mighty should have these moves... * Mighty could grab Enemies and use them as Weapons by throwing them. You don't have to use Badniks, you could use Monitors (Note: All except for the Eggman Monitor, the 1-up Monitor, and the Partner randomizer in Encore mode will grant you the sheild/effect to you.), Your Partner in Encore mode if you need to get to some place higher up, certain Spikes, Enemy projectiles such as the Woodpecker Badnik's bombs, Heavy Gunner's Missiles, The Ice Badnik's Bombs, and The Small Sonics in Phase 2 of Metal Sonic's battle, some Rocks, and etc. However, there *IS* a catch: you can only, and I say *ONLY* use it on ground with pernamint solid colission detection. You can use this Move Underwater to get certain things like Air bubbles more quickly, but the item you throw will be much slower. * A deadly Punch attack which can make killing bosses easily, but has a *VERY* small range, so you'll need to get up close to them. You can use this attack Underwater, and in the Air as well. Ray on the Other hand should have these Powers... * An Aerial dash which can move farther than Sonic's, but is Slower. It can also work Underwater, and can allow you to get through stuff easily, like Eggman's Act 2 battle in Hydrocity Zone. * A Wall grab attack, Which Unlike Knuckles, can't move up or down, but won't descend after awhile. So you'll need to cling off the wall and immediatly cling back onto it if you wanna climb up or down. * A Spin attack which looks and feels like the Cape ability in Super Mario World. It has a good range, and it can work in Midair, and Underwater. It can also reflect *ALL* Projectiles! * If you hold that same Spin Attack longer, Ray will become a Tornado, and you can move around pretty much anywhere! It works the same as before, I.e able to reflect projectiles and all that, but It can also hover around in the air, creates Air Bubbles Underwater, but most importantly, *KILL BOSSES.* There is a hitch though, and that is that you nore you Partner if you're playing Encore Mode, can't use other Abilities (ex: Sonic's Homing Attack in the Video.) and you'll have to wait until Ray stops spinning around. If you let go of the button, Ray will slowly descend down, however if you jump while still decending, you'll break out of it. * If you hold Down and Jump while descending, Ray will come rocketing down like a drill if you want to get onto land Quickly.
For Mighty: since he is like a mixture of sonic and knuckles, i would say like he tackles an enemy then the enemy flies in the opposite direction, like saitama punching something tough. For Ray: He flap his wing thing, basically Ray used Gust
It’s kinda useless, but I thought Mighty could have like, and instantaneous spin dash (kinda like SA1) that can active while moving. Ray could have like a Mario Bros. U squirrel suit inspired double jump (that could even be used while gliding), and maybe if he uses it on the ground, he jumps higher than normal with a different animation (though he can’t double jump from that)
I believe the ring popping out of a badnik is a reference to Tails’ Adventure on the Game Gear! Enemies had a chance of dropping a ring when defeating them.
Mighty/Ray new powers: *Mighty* : if you get 999 rings Mighty is immune to all attacks for a full minute. *Ray* : The power to be extra cute... *and Dab*
@@Garrulous64 pretty sure it would be hard to program it could also make bosses break or glitch unless each projectile had a different hitbox to the ability not impossible but hard to program
I feel like Mighty could get an ability that ground pounds him forward, if that makes sense. Like, his ground pound usually takes away all momentum, but the new ability would launch him forward a bit as he hit the ground, and he'd transition into a run to keep your speed. Kind of like Sonic's homing attack but only at the ground, and I probably worded that poorly. I'd like a new Ray ability to be a sort of ceiling climbing ability. It would probably only have a use in enclosed areas like caves but it could be interesting for getting over gaps. I think Mighty has more to work with. Thank you for listening to my TEDTalk.
I was playing a certain classic sonic fan game on Roblox where if you're playing as knuckles you can roll across the ground after gliding by holding down just before touching the ground giving you the option to jump and glide again almost instantly. So basically you have knuckles do a short glide,roll,and glide again. that would be a little useful if you want to keep up momentum when getting from platform to platform,or if you just like to watch knuckles glide.
QotD: Mighty's wall jump and Ray would get a forced balancing animation if he's about to run of a cliff to his death and maybe even more animations only seen in SegaSonic the Hedgehog like flailing in the air for two seconds when floor falls from below him. Also you forgot the Sonic Advance 3's Tails and Cream Tails flight ability Tails has when you look up and press LR.
Mighty could have his wall kick from chaotix. Ray can be able to turn directions while gliding. Ray is just too perfect, we can't change him even if we wanted to
Mighty: Upward Spin. Like the Hammer Drop but instead gives you a boost in the air. Ray: Dive (Aerial Only). After a Glide or jumping, you can dive down as a sort of means to get down faster, also can kill enemies and break monitors.
6:58 - In case you haven't played Sonic Runners Adventure, that's how Knuckles plays like. First tap is the jump, second tap is the glide, third tap is another jump.
Mighty: A power that has a cooldown where you can do a super "ground pound?" where you go to do that jump thing but when you bounce off the ground, press the jump button again and you can kill every enemy on screen Ray: You can use your tail to do a helicopter attack where you surround wind around Ray and move around, its basically like invisibility but its a bit shorter because it can kill all enemies that fly instantly without touching them, you can only use this power once in every zone/act.
Ray: the ability to make a earth quake after falling fast while flying (like in super mario world.) Mighty: go faster while ground pounding, and grab chunks of the ground to throw at enemies
QOTD: Ray a boost mechanism whilst flying, Mighty being able to break certain things (spikes, parts of ground, etc.) when he has 10 rings by using a side attack. (essentially the hammer drop but sideways.)
Mighty - Drop Dash And Mega Charge - Can charge towards boxes and badniks to destroy them, but if you run into a wall you are dazed for 5 secs. Ray - Trampoline Hop: Another character can jump off Ray’s back as he glides
2:20 - Sonic Advance 2 and 3 also have homing attacks if you jump and press the R Button. Though you need to be in a rather close range. That being said, the Rush series also have homing attacks that function the same way.
I’d give mighty his wall grab/jump from chaotix as he’s already fairly OP. I’d give Ray an instasheid and the ability start flying again mid air after a bail out.
Mighty should have his wall jump from Knuckles' Chaotix Ray could have an extra boost of speed when he glides downwards, similar to Modern Sonic's Air Boost
Ray should have a jump as he’s flying like the squirrel suit from New Mario Bros U and a slower fall after jumping higher in the glide again LIKE THE SQUIRREL SUIT, and Mighty should have a wall kick and when ducking,rolling and,jumping should be immune to enemy projectiles
*QOTD:* Mighty:Wall Jump (Press LB/ZR on a wall to kick off it, like in chaotix) Ray: Tornado Glide (Press LB/ZR during a glide to lose some altitude, but you go fast and enemies and items gravitate towards you)
I imagine Mighty being able to perform a Light Speed Dash, still focusing on his defensive playstyle while giving him more speedy moves. Ray would most like have something from Mario World; IDK
Ray could totally have a dive bomb sort of attack, where in mid-glide you can suddenly WOOSH down on your enemies. Mighty could probably have the wall kick he had in Chaotix.
Mighty can do a grapple attack, a reference to knuckles chaotics. Ray can do a backflip attack, using his one tail to hit enemies up in the air, but not to high, his hitbox would only be his tail, so don't go to far up! Mighty's ring grapple attack would have an up diagonal and down diagonal attack with it, but with a not to huge grapple range.
Ray: a a charge jump that if you tap in the air it do a bigger jump but doesn't allow to glide until you touch the ground mighty:something similar to a spin dash but if he hits a wall it rains rings and random enemies
Mighty:Bounce Attack with Wall Jump Mighty:Drop Glide(He drop dashes,but he gets sent in the air to glide with extreme speed) and Shield(curls with wing thing)
Mighty could have a defensive mode where he completely covers himself with his shell and can't be hurt but can only be activated on the ground and you can't move while using it unless on a ramp where you begin rolling. For Ray, if he goes high enough and you tilt down fast enough, you will then make a small crash, like Mighty but it also uses Ray's gliding ability. Yet again, like caped Mario.
Mighty would have the ability to pick things up and move them around and ray would have the ability to have a 1/10 chance to avoid an attack and just get knocked back (and get invinciblity frames)
Mighty Could have a Rolling Bounce feature, like the bubble shield for sonic; He would still be invincible this way and could increase the bouncing height with a control mechanic. Ray could have a upward propel that could give him the wanted height for his gliding move. That's what I could think.
Mighty when you press down you would curl up into a ball and would be immune to some attacks but you’re jump would be shorter. Ray would be able to jump off some enemies (almost all airborne ones) by grappling on to them with his tail
Tails gets a ring from tail whipping because it's a reference to the Advance games. (The bots dropped rings when being destroyed. That actually sounds interesting in theory...think about how the ring might energize the bots...)
Garrulous64: I don't think homing attack works on bosses... **Garrulous homing attacks DD Wrecker and doesn't take notice.** Garrulous64: I don't think it works on any of the bosses, even the death egg robot. Me: *[ TRIGGERED ]*
Hmm... QOD: Mighty's Special Ability: Tecton Smash If Mighty uses his normal ability from higher up, he'll turn into a fire ball, and cause an earthquake, making all grounded enemies jump up and stop moving for a short time. The fire also spreads across the ground. Ray's Special Ability: Divebomb While diving in the air with Ray's flight power, Ray spins around, and if he makes contact with an enemy, he'll bounce off of it while in flight, which gives you a vertical boost depending on how far you descended during the move.
For Mighty I want like an attack that only triggers when at full speed. Like, think of a spindash, just you don't have to charge it and it just activates as soon you hit max speed. For Ray, maybe a Knuckles like wall climb? And maybe if you just trigger the hover by standing still you just float in mid air and can just adjust where you will glide (up, left, right or just dropping back down) EDIT: Or Ray can have an aerial spin when he glides to bust enemies that way!
Great Mod, wouldn't expect anything less from CodenameGamma. Only criticism I have is the Knuckles Heroes' Attack, it's a terrible move and feels awkward. I mean it does make sense in Heroes sure but in a 2D plain it's just bizarre. I would have preferred say his Combos from SA1 and/or SA2, heck even his Advance Combo Punches but that would require a lot more sprite work. I dunno maybe next time, but jumping out of a glide is SICK. I never knew I wanted something so simple. As for Mighty, either his Chaotix Wall Kick or a grab move to carry enemies and throw them at each other. As for Ray, I dunno a climb ability and maybe a tail whip? Honestly I have no idea what you could give him that doesn't take away from Tails or Knuckles.
Ray could have a little mid-air backflip that halts momentum, maybe it gives you just a little height if you glide-cancel out with the right timing or something. It would mostly be a last second evasive maneuver. And, I don't know, Mighty could have Knuckles' punching combo from the Advance games. why not.
For QOTD, Mighty could have his wall kick, maybe altered to be able to jump up one wall like Mega Man X. Ray's hard, but I had the idea that he could also have a spin attack? Like tails, but functioning more like the spin the Cape gives in Super Mario World.
I'd give Mighty his Chaotix wall jump and a block button so he can black with his back, and Ray can quickly glide backward for a few seconds, useful when about to fall in a bottomless pit
Mighty should gain his Chaotix moveset, and Ray should get a jump out of his glide and then you can start gliding again. Along with that, Ray should also have a wall cling and climb ability, being a flying squirrel.
Mighty would obviously benefit from his wall cling ability from Chaotix. Personally, I thought that was what Mighty's exclusive move was going to be, and was the biggest reason I even got the Plus add-on. As for Ray, I know a lot of people have a hard time getting used to SMW cape controls, so perhaps an up/down-press based version of it that's more literal.
Ray could have a regulator, putting his flight direction in the same direction Knuckles goes. Useful if you're all out of whack with Ray's flying (as I personally tend to do a lot), while Mighty could have something similar to Knuckles' fist, except instead of just hitting, Mighty grabs the badnik and throws it at the nearest other badnik.
I would give Mighty his wall jump from Knuckles Chaotix, while Ray would be able to hold up to 3 shields in storage like Mighty could do in Sonic Megamix.
I think I would give Ray a little tail whip in the air that reflects projectiles and acts like the instant shield, while giving mighty immunity to being crushed while in ball form
I'd give Mighty an ability that mirrors Chaotix. So it would have Mighty being able to do the grapple thing, but you grab enemies with it, charge it, and send the enemy across the screen, being able to hit other enemies in the process I'd also make him able to pick up things like monitors and throw them. IDK what I could do for Ray besides the move cancelling like Knuckles and Tails
Mighty will be able to punch rocks or ram into enemies(Sonic Mania Adventure) while Ray can glide and roll dash(like Sonia in S Factor) How it works is when he is running he immediately goes into Rolling animation and keeps on rolling until you let go
QOTD: I think mighty should be able to pick up a badnik, be able to carry it for a limited time, then be able to throw it as a projectile (like how he threw ray in mania adventures).
I’d essentially give Mighty the ability to bounce from a ground slam, ala the bounce bracelet from Sonic Adventure 2 & onwards, and I’d give Ray a jump that he can perform during his glide to give him some extra upwards movement.
Lambda Core It was the best I could come up with for Mighty, but I guess I could make it different by letting you keep on bouncing until you decide to switch back to a ground slam, which can result in a bigger quake, wiping out more enemies on screen depending on how high you’ve bounced.
I Think Mighty's New Abilities Can Be When He Uncurl From When He Jumps On Spikes While You're In The Air Press The LB Button And Recurl, And For Mighty's Second Ability Press LB On The Ground To Throw A Giant Rock Like In Sonic Mania Adventures
All these new abilities would look sweet if they were hyper-form abilities as bonus for finishing the game with all emeralds with every character combination possible, even the & Knuckles option.
Hmmmmm, I wonder what we could have been made for, HMMMMMMMMM!
Hmmmm I wonder 🤔🤔🤔
Garrulous64 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm🧐
Hmmmm reminds of a certain hack that were totally not recreating for mania in no way shape or form.
Hmmmmmmmmmm????? *twirls screen like Pewds*
I have two ideas to give Mighty and Ray powers Ray can do the ground pound and mighty can fly
Sonic has now become a whole new hero of speed.
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I bet there will be a montage where he learns to boost or homing attack in the movie.
@@Garrulous64 no. sonic will just know about it, then eggman makes a machine that makes sonic forget almost everything, then he has a mental break down, asking himself "who am i" and then everyone who sonic is friends with will tell him "you are a hero. a whole new hero... of speed" and then sonic beats up eggman, shooting him with an ak47.
this is true, my dad's friend's uncle works for the movie.
“A hole New SPEED of HERO”
-Sonic Movie
I miss the air dash in modern games. Double jump is useless.
Unless the time sonic can go float while underwater in colors. Yes it's basically useless
Dhanar Santika that’s not even double jump that’s like infinite jump and it only happened underwater. Also it never appeared in any other game
Fan made character.
at least it has better button control than unleashed
(to homing attack/air dash in unleashed: press A then X
not
A button then A button
rood;[
Ray should be able to do a barrel roll while gliding and after Barrel Roll he gets an extreme speed boost and dashes forward for a while (in air of course)
Mighty should get smtnhg like Bounce Attack from SA2
Good idea
I kinda like that
I agree
And wall kick for mighty as well
@@beckyd1127 oyes
Really wish the Homing Shield from Sonic 3D Blast made its way over in Mania alongside the other Elemental Shields.
As for the QOTD, it would’ve been really cool for Mighty to retain his ability to store and switch between shields on the fly, just like in Sonic MegaMix. For Ray though, he’s just fine as he is in Mania Plus.
For everyone else besides Sonic, I’d give them access to the Elemental Shields movement abilities, just for how figuratively game-breaking some of the potential matchups could be.
You know megamix isn't official, right? So they wont add moves from it
@@gavinwilson3707 But the creator of Megamix worked on Sonic Mania
@@HruMan360 That doesn't matter.
@@conlia Yes it does
@@conlia jk
Well, Mighty could have a wall jump and Ray... I don't know.
He could wield a bazooka. Make him ever scarier than he is now.
maybe a boost upwards
Wield a Manta Ray Gun
He could do a tail whip as well.
Maybe he could cling to walls?
@@HarbingerYT but Knickles the Enchalada can already do that. How would Ray do it?
I would give Mighty wall jump from Chaotix and change the levels to utilize it, like with Knuckles. I would give Ray some sort of special jump for activating his flight which doesn’t go as high but gives some momentum
That’s a really good idea! Why didn’t I think of that?!
Like the tanooki suit from new super Mario bros
you know when you glide into a enemy as ray you get hurt so prehaps give him a shield that drains his rings
I think Mighty should have these moves...
* Mighty could grab Enemies and use them as Weapons by throwing them. You don't have to use Badniks, you could use Monitors (Note: All except for the Eggman Monitor, the 1-up Monitor, and the Partner randomizer in Encore mode will grant you the sheild/effect to you.), Your Partner in Encore mode if you need to get to some place higher up, certain Spikes, Enemy projectiles such as the Woodpecker Badnik's bombs, Heavy Gunner's Missiles, The Ice Badnik's Bombs, and The Small Sonics in Phase 2 of Metal Sonic's battle, some Rocks, and etc. However, there *IS* a catch: you can only, and I say *ONLY* use it on ground with pernamint solid colission detection. You can use this Move Underwater to get certain things like Air bubbles more quickly, but the item you throw will be much slower.
* A deadly Punch attack which can make killing bosses easily, but has a *VERY* small range, so you'll need to get up close to them. You can use this attack Underwater, and in the Air as well.
Ray on the Other hand should have these Powers...
* An Aerial dash which can move farther than Sonic's, but is Slower. It can also work Underwater, and can allow you to get through stuff easily, like Eggman's Act 2 battle in Hydrocity Zone.
* A Wall grab attack, Which Unlike Knuckles, can't move up or down, but won't descend after awhile. So you'll need to cling off the wall and immediatly cling back onto it if you wanna climb up or down.
* A Spin attack which looks and feels like the Cape ability in Super Mario World. It has a good range, and it can work in Midair, and Underwater. It can also reflect *ALL* Projectiles!
* If you hold that same Spin Attack longer, Ray will become a Tornado, and you can move around pretty much anywhere! It works the same as before, I.e able to reflect projectiles and all that, but It can also hover around in the air, creates Air Bubbles Underwater, but most importantly, *KILL BOSSES.* There is a hitch though, and that is that you nore you Partner if you're playing Encore Mode, can't use other Abilities (ex: Sonic's Homing Attack in the Video.) and you'll have to wait until Ray stops spinning around. If you let go of the button, Ray will slowly descend down, however if you jump while still decending, you'll break out of it.
* If you hold Down and Jump while descending, Ray will come rocketing down like a drill if you want to get onto land Quickly.
QOTD: Give Mighty his Knuckles Chaotix Wall Jump, and give Ray a Double Jump like the one that the Acorn Suit gives you in NSMBU
Hey! No mentioning the other franchise in the comfortability of your area! Detention 4 u! Ur parents will be hearing about this one!
@@nishikascorpio7830 Its no big deal, Sonic and Mario aren't rivals anymore
thats a woosh if ive ever seen one
@@AngelGlimmer it was a joke
@@SkyXboxer Yeah i know, I still stand by my reply.
For Mighty: since he is like a mixture of sonic and knuckles, i would say like he tackles an enemy then the enemy flies in the opposite direction, like saitama punching something tough.
For Ray: He flap his wing thing, basically Ray used Gust
It’s kinda useless, but I thought Mighty could have like, and instantaneous spin dash (kinda like SA1) that can active while moving. Ray could have like a Mario Bros. U squirrel suit inspired double jump (that could even be used while gliding), and maybe if he uses it on the ground, he jumps higher than normal with a different animation (though he can’t double jump from that)
So, you're pretty much just giving Mighty the Boost, except it's not totally broken like in Unleashed, Colours, Generations or Forces.
This is so cool. I think its one of the first new ability mods of the game and it'll open up more possibilities for custom characters!
The first one I know of is the boost mod.
I would give Mighty back his wall jump from Knuckles' Chaotix, and Ray is already perfect what more does he need?
what if ray could go back into the glide after he jumps out of it?
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Ray could get a dive bomb that bounces him off of enemies.
Ray needs easier controlls
Ray would get a little boost in his gliding like the acorn suit in nsmbu
Nobody:
Not a single soul:
Knuckles: *cursing intensifies*
He's Saying "Shift"
I believe the ring popping out of a badnik is a reference to Tails’ Adventure on the Game Gear! Enemies had a chance of dropping a ring when defeating them.
Mighty: wall jump
Ray: just the knuckles glide but straight and no climbing
Mighty/Ray new powers:
*Mighty* : if you get 999 rings Mighty is immune to all attacks for a full minute.
*Ray* : The power to be extra cute...
*and Dab*
How you get 999 ring on lvls that have less rings
Mighty would do a defensive twirl where he would show his back for a second blocking an attack coming his way
Maybe it could reflect projectiles back at the enemy too
@@Garrulous64 pretty sure it would be hard to program
it could also make bosses break or glitch unless each projectile had a different hitbox to the ability
not impossible but hard to program
@@RaphielShiraha64you can play Sonic mania on Android
I feel like Mighty could get an ability that ground pounds him forward, if that makes sense. Like, his ground pound usually takes away all momentum, but the new ability would launch him forward a bit as he hit the ground, and he'd transition into a run to keep your speed. Kind of like Sonic's homing attack but only at the ground, and I probably worded that poorly.
I'd like a new Ray ability to be a sort of ceiling climbing ability. It would probably only have a use in enclosed areas like caves but it could be interesting for getting over gaps. I think Mighty has more to work with.
Thank you for listening to my TEDTalk.
Hyper Sonic + Homing attack, dear god, that’s like max speed at the push of a button
I was playing a certain classic sonic fan game on Roblox where if you're playing as knuckles you can roll across the ground after gliding by holding down just before touching the ground giving you the option to jump and glide again almost instantly. So basically you have knuckles do a short glide,roll,and glide again. that would be a little useful if you want to keep up momentum when getting from platform to platform,or if you just like to watch knuckles glide.
Mighty: Punchin' Shit
Ray: Literally Spawns A Micro Tornado
Ray could slam right down on enemies, interrupting his glide, causing a mini shockwave and mighty could do a double jump after doing his hammer drop
QotD: Mighty's wall jump and Ray would get a forced balancing animation if he's about to run of a cliff to his death and maybe even more animations only seen in SegaSonic the Hedgehog like flailing in the air for two seconds when floor falls from below him. Also you forgot the Sonic Advance 3's Tails and Cream Tails flight ability Tails has when you look up and press LR.
Mighty could have his wall kick from chaotix. Ray can be able to turn directions while gliding. Ray is just too perfect, we can't change him even if we wanted to
Ray: a gust of wind to shoot up into the sky.
Mighty: a special defense thing, since he's an armadillo.
Mighty: Upward Spin. Like the Hammer Drop but instead gives you a boost in the air.
Ray: Dive (Aerial Only). After a Glide or jumping, you can dive down as a sort of means to get down faster, also can kill enemies and break monitors.
Mighty : wall kick
Ray: wall grab
@@nottrulybup Ok 😐
MIGHTY: walljump from chaotix. Ray: updrift for 2 seconds
6:58 - In case you haven't played Sonic Runners Adventure, that's how Knuckles plays like. First tap is the jump, second tap is the glide, third tap is another jump.
*It begins!!*
We're one step closer to make Amy get in the game.
And maybe more!
Mighty: A power that has a cooldown where you can do a super "ground pound?" where you go to do that jump thing but when you bounce off the ground, press the jump button again and you can kill every enemy on screen
Ray: You can use your tail to do a helicopter attack where you surround wind around Ray and move around, its basically like invisibility but its a bit shorter because it can kill all enemies that fly instantly without touching them, you can only use this power once in every zone/act.
Ray: the ability to make a earth quake after falling fast while flying (like in super mario world.) Mighty: go faster while ground pounding, and grab chunks of the ground to throw at enemies
QOTD:
Ray a boost mechanism whilst flying,
Mighty being able to break certain things (spikes, parts of ground, etc.) when he has 10 rings
by using a side attack. (essentially the hammer drop but sideways.)
Mighty - Drop Dash And Mega Charge - Can charge towards boxes and badniks to destroy them, but if you run into a wall you are dazed for 5 secs.
Ray - Trampoline Hop: Another character can jump off Ray’s back as he glides
Mighty: wall kick
Ray: can't think of anything
2:20 - Sonic Advance 2 and 3 also have homing attacks if you jump and press the R Button. Though you need to be in a rather close range. That being said, the Rush series also have homing attacks that function the same way.
Tails instantly cancelling flight is like Rayman not having an edge grab animation. Small but revolutionary
I’d give mighty his wall grab/jump from chaotix as he’s already fairly OP. I’d give Ray an instasheid and the ability start flying again mid air after a bail out.
*sonic during homing attack* ENEMY SPOTTED! *aims* *attacks* Target destroyed. Great video Garrulous.
As a semi random note knuckles voice clips for punching in Heroes is meant to be martial arts esque grunts as opposed to actual words.
7:02 I was thinking the super acorn powerup, but without the floatiness after the little midair jump while gliding.
Q&A:
I would give Ray that crash move that Mario's feather cape had in Super Mario World.
For Mighty...I dunno,double jump?
Mighty should have his wall jump from Knuckles' Chaotix
Ray could have an extra boost of speed when he glides downwards, similar to Modern Sonic's Air Boost
Ray: more flight
Mighty: Touching walls brake it.
Mighty:be able to draw on ground
Ray:be able to dash in flight
Ray should have a jump as he’s flying like the squirrel suit from New Mario Bros U and a slower fall after jumping higher in the glide again LIKE THE SQUIRREL SUIT, and Mighty should have a wall kick and when ducking,rolling and,jumping should be immune to enemy projectiles
Ray: super peel out
Mighty:wall jump
edit: 65th comment.
Mighty: Pick up rocks Ray:Headbut
*QOTD:*
Mighty:Wall Jump (Press LB/ZR on a wall to kick off it, like in chaotix)
Ray: Tornado Glide (Press LB/ZR during a glide to lose some altitude, but you go fast and enemies and items gravitate towards you)
Looks like Classic has already learned Homing Attack since he was inspired by his modern self in Sonic Generations
Now I’m going to save up money just to get a pc so I can play this mod
And pledge to gamma since it's a patreon reward
(@Ty) just this one specifically?
Garrulous64: You can’t homing attack bosses.
Me: Wait but in the first act didn’t you jus-
Garrulous64: *DID I STUTTER*
I imagine Mighty being able to perform a Light Speed Dash, still focusing on his defensive playstyle while giving him more speedy moves.
Ray would most like have something from Mario World; IDK
Mighty: When spindashing, press lb to throw a boulder
Ray: while gliding, press lb to do a air tail swipe
Ray could totally have a dive bomb sort of attack, where in mid-glide you can suddenly WOOSH down on your enemies. Mighty could probably have the wall kick he had in Chaotix.
Mighty: a dash punch of some sort
Ray: A higher jump than the rest of the characters, or being able to fly without jumping.
Mighty can do a grapple attack, a reference to knuckles chaotics. Ray can do a backflip attack, using his one tail to hit enemies up in the air, but not to high, his hitbox would only be his tail, so don't go to far up! Mighty's ring grapple attack would have an up diagonal and down diagonal attack with it, but with a not to huge grapple range.
Ray: a a charge jump that if you tap in the air it do a bigger jump but doesn't allow to glide until you touch the ground
mighty:something similar to a spin dash but if he hits a wall it rains rings and random enemies
Mighty:Bounce Attack with Wall Jump
Mighty:Drop Glide(He drop dashes,but he gets sent in the air to glide with extreme speed) and Shield(curls with wing thing)
Here's my own idea: Mighty can have wall jump, And Ray can have double jump before gliding.
Ray: tail swipe
Mighty: rock throw
Mighty could have a defensive mode where he completely covers himself with his shell and can't be hurt but can only be activated on the ground and you can't move while using it unless on a ramp where you begin rolling.
For Ray, if he goes high enough and you tilt down fast enough, you will then make a small crash, like Mighty but it also uses Ray's gliding ability. Yet again, like caped Mario.
Mighty would have the ability to pick things up and move them around and ray would have the ability to have a 1/10 chance to avoid an attack and just get knocked back (and get invinciblity frames)
Garrulous:these 2 noobys sit out Mighty: *the best character in the game*
Mighty Could have a Rolling Bounce feature, like the bubble shield for sonic; He would still be invincible this way and could increase the bouncing height with a control mechanic. Ray could have a upward propel that could give him the wanted height for his gliding move. That's what I could think.
Mighty when you press down you would curl up into a ball and would be immune to some attacks but you’re jump would be shorter. Ray would be able to jump off some enemies (almost all airborne ones) by grappling on to them with his tail
Tails gets a ring from tail whipping because it's a reference to the Advance games. (The bots dropped rings when being destroyed. That actually sounds interesting in theory...think about how the ring might energize the bots...)
Mighty: wall kick
Ray: not sure
Garrulous64: I don't think homing attack works on bosses...
**Garrulous homing attacks DD Wrecker and doesn't take notice.**
Garrulous64: I don't think it works on any of the bosses, even the death egg robot.
Me: *[ TRIGGERED ]*
No he was air dashing
Looking good, Garrulous!
Hmm...
QOD:
Mighty's Special Ability: Tecton Smash
If Mighty uses his normal ability from higher up, he'll turn into a fire ball, and cause an earthquake, making all grounded enemies jump up and stop moving for a short time. The fire also spreads across the ground.
Ray's Special Ability: Divebomb
While diving in the air with Ray's flight power, Ray spins around, and if he makes contact with an enemy, he'll bounce off of it while in flight, which gives you a vertical boost depending on how far you descended during the move.
For Mighty I want like an attack that only triggers when at full speed. Like, think of a spindash, just you don't have to charge it and it just activates as soon you hit max speed.
For Ray, maybe a Knuckles like wall climb? And maybe if you just trigger the hover by standing still you just float in mid air and can just adjust where you will glide (up, left, right or just dropping back down)
EDIT: Or Ray can have an aerial spin when he glides to bust enemies that way!
Great Mod, wouldn't expect anything less from CodenameGamma. Only criticism I have is the Knuckles Heroes' Attack, it's a terrible move and feels awkward. I mean it does make sense in Heroes sure but in a 2D plain it's just bizarre. I would have preferred say his Combos from SA1 and/or SA2, heck even his Advance Combo Punches but that would require a lot more sprite work. I dunno maybe next time, but jumping out of a glide is SICK. I never knew I wanted something so simple.
As for Mighty, either his Chaotix Wall Kick or a grab move to carry enemies and throw them at each other. As for Ray, I dunno a climb ability and maybe a tail whip? Honestly I have no idea what you could give him that doesn't take away from Tails or Knuckles.
Ray could have a ground tail sweep that hurts enemies or Ray could eat acorns that randomly replace rings and each acorn gives him a random boost
Mighty: wall jump Ray: thumb twittle
Ray could have a little mid-air backflip that halts momentum, maybe it gives you just a little height if you glide-cancel out with the right timing or something. It would mostly be a last second evasive maneuver.
And, I don't know, Mighty could have Knuckles' punching combo from the Advance games. why not.
Ray would have the power of being a kid while mighty would be a father
3:50 If you combine these mods with modern Sonic and with homing attack you can call this game "Sonic 5"
For QOTD, Mighty could have his wall kick, maybe altered to be able to jump up one wall like Mega Man X.
Ray's hard, but I had the idea that he could also have a spin attack? Like tails, but functioning more like the spin the Cape gives in Super Mario World.
I'd give Mighty his Chaotix wall jump and a block button so he can black with his back, and Ray can quickly glide backward for a few seconds, useful when about to fall in a bottomless pit
Obviously for Mighty, he'd get his wall kick from knuckles' chaotix. Maybe some sort of punch attack too. Ray on the other hand, I'm stumped.
Gamma, what's the issue of restricting Homing Attack's Y+ axis scan in relation to the player?
Mighty should gain his Chaotix moveset, and Ray should get a jump out of his glide and then you can start gliding again. Along with that, Ray should also have a wall cling and climb ability, being a flying squirrel.
Mighty would obviously benefit from his wall cling ability from Chaotix.
Personally, I thought that was what Mighty's exclusive move was going to be, and was the biggest reason I even got the Plus add-on.
As for Ray, I know a lot of people have a hard time getting used to SMW cape controls, so perhaps an up/down-press based version of it that's more literal.
Mighty - Wall Jump
Ray - Jump Boost (like when you press the shoulder buttons in NSMBU with the acorn.)
Ray could have a regulator, putting his flight direction in the same direction Knuckles goes. Useful if you're all out of whack with Ray's flying (as I personally tend to do a lot), while Mighty could have something similar to Knuckles' fist, except instead of just hitting, Mighty grabs the badnik and throws it at the nearest other badnik.
I would give Mighty his wall jump from Knuckles Chaotix, while Ray would be able to hold up to 3 shields in storage like Mighty could do in Sonic Megamix.
Mighty could have his wall cling from chaotix and ray could possibly have like some sort of air dash (but no homing attack) in 4 directions
Wow Garrulous, not even a minute in and there's already a voice crack.
I think I would give Ray a little tail whip in the air that reflects projectiles and acts like the instant shield, while giving mighty immunity to being crushed while in ball form
QOTD:
Mighty: Breaking walls by just touching them.
Ray: Easier gliding controls.
I'd give Mighty an ability that mirrors Chaotix. So it would have Mighty being able to do the grapple thing, but you grab enemies with it, charge it, and send the enemy across the screen, being able to hit other enemies in the process I'd also make him able to pick up things like monitors and throw them. IDK what I could do for Ray besides the move cancelling like Knuckles and Tails
Mighty will be able to punch rocks or ram into enemies(Sonic Mania Adventure) while Ray can glide and roll dash(like Sonia in S Factor) How it works is when he is running he immediately goes into Rolling animation and keeps on rolling until you let go
QOTD: I think mighty should be able to pick up a badnik, be able to carry it for a limited time, then be able to throw it as a projectile (like how he threw ray in mania adventures).
7:17 it keeps the montem real good
I’d essentially give Mighty the ability to bounce from a ground slam, ala the bounce bracelet from Sonic Adventure 2 & onwards, and I’d give Ray a jump that he can perform during his glide to give him some extra upwards movement.
Lambda Core It was the best I could come up with for Mighty, but I guess I could make it different by letting you keep on bouncing until you decide to switch back to a ground slam, which can result in a bigger quake, wiping out more enemies on screen depending on how high you’ve bounced.
I Think Mighty's New Abilities Can Be When He Uncurl From When He Jumps On Spikes While You're In The Air Press The LB Button And Recurl, And For Mighty's Second Ability Press LB On The Ground To Throw A Giant Rock Like In Sonic Mania Adventures
QOTD : Mighty would pick up Monitors Badniks etc. And for Ray a high double jump while gliding.
All these new abilities would look sweet if they were hyper-form abilities as bonus for finishing the game with all emeralds with every character combination possible, even the & Knuckles option.