I got the pin of shame. Unfortunately I truly do not deserve this prestigious award because I was being sarcastic 🙃 but I'm very honored and will take it!
There's a reason why his wife is posting thirst traps xD. She's looking for a new guy. She has the creativity to make things work. He's just someone who can talk and not say anything for hours.
its cos he's insecure. it shows his insecurity and hypocrisy tbh. its ok for Ethen to be insecure and use that to vilify others but its not ok for you set boundaries and standards. what do you expect from him?
What annoys me is that people like Ethan are the type to say "you need to respect people's boundaries," but will yell at and scream that you are being "toxic and insecure" when you set some boundaries.
That's the trick. It's no different from the dudebros that say they want their women to have a low body count but are kicking chicks to the curb if they don't put out on the first date. They just want what's beneficial for them. Even if it's hypocritical
@@kyleflournoy7730right? Lmao, they want them as pure and untouched as Virgin Mary herself, but they need to be freaks on the sheets and on top of their laps the moment they say "come, bbabygirl" Like bruuuuuh..... Pick one 😅
Dude, have you ever said at least one nice thing in your life? Nothing to do with Ethan or the situation, just genuinely wondering. Edit: The amount of butthurt, anti-social diesel boys is hilarious.
“It’s not like she’s dressed like a P star” 😂 This is like Beyoncé selling the dream single ladies and irreplaceable while keeping Jay Z even when he cheats. Same with Cardi B. Independent women promotion but are different people in their actual lives 😂
Damn so no one is allowed to have boundaries I guess. You just have to be uncomfortable with something your partner is doing and let the resentment build up over time.
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I don't want to live in a world where we can't disagree. I think being able to disagree with someone, articulate your thoughts, and still come out respecting the other person is the only way we can ever make progress both in our personal lives and as a society. If all a person can hear when Aba calls out unhealthy weight is an insult, then that person is not listening at all.
They didn't accurately call them out though. They took one part of the conversation and reacted to , neglecting relevant parts of the conversation. That's why Ethan wants folks to see the entire debate. The premise of this dress code is that as a male he should have full say in the relationship and the woman has none and should not be argumentative. His opinion is the only one that matters in the relationship. That changes the context of him telling her how to dress.
Ethan is the kind of guy that will say you're insecure if you can't look your girl in the eye while her boyfriend is railing her out, and tell her how empowered she looks.
Yea that's what logically follows if you take the view that all insecurity is bad. Nothing wrong with having boundaries and feeling jealousy about someone you love
"No one can tell me what to wear" no, but you don't get to decide how your partner reacts to it. How they feel about it. You can't decide that they have to be OK with it.
You gotta wonder with what hila has to deal with from him behind the scenes. Guys who virtue signal this hard and try to seem like the ultimate defenders of women usually end up having their own abuse scandals behind the scenes. He’s got classic nice guy syndrome. It’s a shame how he’s fallen.
Ethan is the type of dude who would cry himself to sleep if he found out his missus had a Tinder, but would never confront her and would pretend to encourage it, because he is too insecure to risk losing her.
The ending where Ethans wife snapped at abas remark about needing internet validation was the most INSECURE lash out out of everything discussed here. Very telling how on point he was.
Yep it’s a situation of I’m not seeking validation consciencly but when those likes, yass queens and fire emojis simps come in, the dopamine sure hits like a drug
She should snap off. Aba and Preach are being sexist. Hila has had 2 babies and got back into incredible shape and wants to show how hard she worked. Lmao stfu.
i use to watch H3H3 once they did the podcast format, i lost interest. Hes uneducated, ignorant and a cuck. Dude is completely out of touch with reality. No one his team challenges his idea. its stupid
Projection. He hates himself. No wonder he agrees with the "its about woman's confidence". Most people who look good wanna be seen no matter the gender lul. He just can't relate.
Aba and Preach knocked it out the park with this one. Ethan looked at the full range of preference and simply declared that anyone beneath his threshold is "wrong". But that thinking is flawed because, you could ask him would he be okay with his partner going to the store butt naked? No? Well a nudist would call him controlling because he wouldn't allow his partner to walk around naked. The nudist says he's insecure and controlling. Or would he allow his partner to fuck someone else right in front of him? No? Well, a polygamous person would say he's controlling. You wouldn't allow your partner to be sexually free? The polygamous couple says he's controlling and insecure. His logic is utterly flawed.
I feel Ethan is just scared of losing his wife.. he has low self esteem & 0 confidence. He knows this is the best he will ever get and if he loses her he wont get anyone this pretty. Thats why he has to be the “yes” man and please her. No matter how much he is disrespected.
The weird part is that Ethan could look good if he made the effort, but he's for whatever reason always leaned into the role of the extremely unattractive weirdo nerd and it so obviously comes from insecurity. If Ethan started ti eat healthier, work out more, start wearing clothes that would compliment him and got a barber to help him out with his hair and beard, he would be an attractive guy. If he then worked on his personality too so that he is actually someone that a woman would want, then maybe shit would change for him. I don't understand why he's never attempted to look good. It feels like systematic and deliberate self sabotage.
Imagine being called "insecure" because i don't want my girlfriend to post thirst pictures on her instragram or even worse have an onlyfans. We truly live in a society.
@@andergarcia4953 Specifically what he said doesn't but it's the same logic Ethan is using in his arguments, he just made a joke about it regarding trans.
@Ander Garcia it's part of the crazy nonsense in our society. People are called incel, insecure, bigots, toxic, phobic etc. For any sort of disagreements. No?
@@leroyrodgers6089 Or the people who call you transphobic if you're a straight male and you don't want to date a man who has transitioned into a woman and is now a "woman".
I love how he’s treating “insecurity” like it instantly wins the argument; if you are insecure then you must be in the wrong 😂 like bro that’s literally the problem, if my partner is thirsting for other people’s attention and it makes me feel like the foundation of this relationship is… NOT SECURE 😭 then I’m gonna look for a relationship where I can find that
His problem is looking at everything as a harmful redpill boogeyman angle , even if something is a completely normal sentiment and not redpill at all. He thinks he's fighting some fresh and fit type ideals and needs to channel his inner woke to call other insecure. This is the issue with people like H3 and hasan. They "think" they're fighting something that "SEEMS" like redpill/right wing and feel obligated to fight it tooth and nail without knowing anything about the subject.
I’d love to ask Ethan where it ends? Am I insecure if I don’t want my wife to sleep with other men? At what point am I no longer being insecure anymore? I mean, if Ethan wants to be cucked, that’s fine, that’s his business, but him wanting to be cucked, doesn’t mean that everyone NOT wanting to be cucked, is suddenly being insecure. 😂
Well yes but Aba and Preach were arguing it’s not insecurity, it is though, it’s insecurity, it’s semantics but it’s still insecurity, how are we missing this? 🤔
Yeah, I don't know what to call it exactly, but it's like using the connotation of a word as a prepackaged argument and conversational mic drop. If we think about it, Ethan and his wife saying that not wanting to be with someone that is provocative in public is controlling, then they are also necessarily saying that other person is entitled be provocative (which they are) and be in a relationship with you.
Ethan is the physical embodiment of “Damn, you used to be the man homie.” He can’t look or hear anything without misquoting it to make himself look good.
cmon he said he hopes his fellow jewish man who has different views from him to be gassed like thr holocaust 😂 to wish your people's painful history on your own ppl is the lowest form of comeback
He was never *_"The Man",_* homie. Ethan is the physical embodiment of *_"Never Meet Your Heroes"_* and a textbook example of *_"People will show you who they really are, in time."_*
They are the direct descendants of the Trotskyite Jews of the 60s and 70s who participated in the destruction of morals and the family in the West. It's funny, but all these former left-wing Jews now represent 90% of the American neo-conservatives who have destroyed the Middle East. They only apply the subversive ideology of Frankism (Jacob Joseph Frank), accelerating the coming of the "Messiah" by increasing corruption and evil on earth. Israel Shahak and Gilad Atzmon are two honest Jews who speak well of this. Talmudic Judaism is a cancer for humanity, read Douglas Reed to understand it. Finally Kanye West was right ! I would be curious to see who the sponsors are behind these two insignificant people, we always find Zionist networks. Otherwise these two insignificant and ugly characters (Ethan and his turkey) would never have succeeded.
@@nedflanders4158 look at all you Betas 😅 being so salty that Ethan is rich, happy and way more successful than you’ll ever be. Insecurity is showing..
As a women I feel like it’s nobody’s business seeing what my body looks like underneath my clothes. I also don’t need to dress provocative to get anyone’s attention. The dressing half naked thing isn’t for me
I’m a woman, in a relationship, and there’s a big difference between “pretty”, “provocative” and “sexy”. It’s subjective and if the other person you’re with is uncomfortable, you need to understand where they’re coming from, what’s disturbing them it the outfit and it’s not being controlling, it’s just proper communication in a relationship.
exactly and it may not be the clothes themselves on the body but what message others will recieve and the impression you are making to others when they see those things. not everyone will respect someone dressed like a stripper, or even a nun, and we cannot get mad at people for having their biases. we all have them, it’s the way in which you act upon those biases that matters.
not only this but a woman can wear anything else and still feel sexy. My Girl is busty, there is no way of getting around the fact her tits will be on show. But its the degree in which they are on show that i would have a problem with. Luckily she has some really elegant and sexy dresses that arnt too revealing. But Even she knows where the line is and if anything she holds the sexiest outfits for me if we go for a date or meal etc. I didnt mind her posts on social media before we got together as she was a model and single. But now she just posts modest phtoos. She has respect for our relationship, she knows she gets jealous with me around people so she knows that its right that she dosnt do anything to make me jealous as then we are hypocrites. Realtionships are bound with respect for one another. If she dosnt respect how you feel about dressing too provactively then you shouldnt respect how she wants you to dress either. Its a two way street.
For argument's sake, how do you know whether or not Sebastian's definition of "provocative" isn't wildly out of proportion with the commonly accepted definition either? Also, Sebastian isn't dating Ethan's wife, so your proper communication argument is instantly invalidated as it is a subjective judgement that can only be made and reinforced within the context of their relationship.
"What is provocative to you" A few moments later.. "It's not like she's dressed like a pornstar" Gaslighting at its finest. So Ethan knows exactly what he was talking and yet still call him insecure. This is a sickness!
Fam I’ve been catching on to shyt like that as well. If you watched Ethan back in the day you know he’s shown a certain level of awareness. He’s just playing dumb and gaslighting.
It always amazes me how disingenuous Ethan can be. He has no idea how to properly debate without seeming like an immature child just throwing out insults
Debate on what? He was reacting live to that video when it dropped, on a comedy channel. Its not a debate channel, nor is it really political aside from one of their shows. They goof on people who make videos on Ethan on every other episode.
The dude never took himself seriously in his videos before the podcast, and he still doesn't on it either. How should anyone take him seriously when he doesn't.
18:30 this. Exactly this. There’s nothing wrong with wanting your girl to not post “thirst traps.” It doesn’t cross into being “controlling” until you are trying to change their behaviors or habits that they already had
I’ve noticed as a non native English speaker. English is my second language and when you learn another language you learn to respect and understand what words mean a lot more than a native speaker. Let’s say I use the word ignorant describe a person. Most native English speakers automatically assume that I am implying that the person is stupid, but when somebody is ignorant, it means they just lack the knowledge. It has nothing to do with the intelligence or the lack of it. For example, words like insecure or misogyny. These words invoke a certain reaction and people use that to their advantage. The best way to fight that is to ask them to define what the word means and you’ll notice they start beatboxing because they don’t actually know. The words lose their meaning because they’re trendy to use and shows the limited vocabulary of people who don’t use words accurately to describe accurate behaviors.
Not exactly, words have different definitions. Like the word ignorent has 3, one enticing that one unaware and uninformed, another that they lack education and knowledge or showing that lack. Ig where i am coming from is context matters, also a language is constantly evolving and changing. Definitions get added and modified, ex: litteraly also now means not litteraly at times.
If his wife did want to show her asshole on camera I wonder if hat his reaction would be since he was so against it. Like she said if she felt like doing it no one could tell her what to do.
@@nv2138712nsijudnf Then explain it. Because telling a person their boundaries are not valid when their boundaries aren't harming another person is most definitely gaslighting. Either your partner respects your boundaries and stays with you, or they don't respect your boundaries and leaves. But controlling a person's boundaries is definitely gaslighting.
@@nv2138712nsijudnf gaslight: verb gerund or present participle: gaslighting manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning. That is definitely gaslighting.
Everyone is asking Ethan Klein if he believes its okay for women to dress provocatively but no one is asking Cher if she still believes in life after love. 💁
Hilla is showing classic symptoms of being in a relationship she doesnt want to be in intimatly anymore. Her and Ethan have just melted into the friendzone and shes working on her looks more because she is subconciously looking for another mate.
She moved to America, got entrenched in American "culture" and now her personality is ruined,and she's also stuck with that...thing. She needs to bail and go back home before its too late
@@nboyknowsnothing5311 lol you're a jackass. You should never have to bend over backwards in a relationship. It's a give and take with roles. I will never bend over backwards for my girl and I won't expect her to either.
Its amazing how the H3 crew are initially so confident you guys are pieces of shit but as they think the situation through they run into nuances and end up basically repeating your original position, while still holding the attitude that they are morally superior to you. It was honestly breathtaking to witness.
It just seemed one big goal post shift. "I need to see what he thinks is provocative" damn it B, it's about the concept not where a particular line is drawn.
This Dan guy just calls them transphobes, idiots, losers, straight up, without any good reason. He acts like he’s some sort of saint when in reality he’s just a dog who defends ethan on anything he says.
I liked these guys until he came for yall. You guys helped me open my eyes, become more equal and grow as a person. Seeing him misrepresent you guys is insane 😅 Yall are always right 😅😅
What's truly insecure? Sticking with your boundaries and being confident enough to leave the relationship if they are stepped over. or Being so worried of losing your partner that you let them do whatever they want even when it's disrespectful towards you
The misunderstanding on the controlling part is because clearly she's manipulative. So in her brain she equates "I don't want to date you because I don't like your behavior" to "I'm using the threat of ending the relationship to control your behavior". She's projecting her own manipulative nature into the statement.
As opposed to Sebastian projecting his insecurity onto his girlfriend by literally saying “I don’t like it because SHE’S MINE”. That’s not a reasonable and well articulated response to prove you’re anything other than unjustifiably and irrationally insecure.
@@SB-se7vb she's mine, and I am hers. There is mutual respect for the relationship. That's the whole point of being in a relationship in my opinion. No sharing 😡
@@OBEYxINSANITY There’s a difference between sharing glances with other people and sharing partners. If you can’t see the tremendous leap in mental gymnastics from the former to the latter, I can’t help you.
@@SB-se7vb if "sharing glances" is what you call it, then neither me nor my wife agree. Not even glances are worth sharing lmao we are a team of 2. And we are strongest this way. 💪 again, she is mine and I am hers. And I don't remember asking for any help 😅
@@SB-se7vb That's not what he said. He said his significant other should not need attention and validation from strangers by dressing in a provocative manner. That is both reasonable and well articulated. Your focus tells us more about you than it does about him.
Now imagine gaslighting your woman for asking you to stay away from strip clubs by telling her she's just being insecure. It's the same thing for men, being told they're insecure for wanting their woman to be decent.
@@cecee3480 you can go to a strip club and not touch anyone. But there's a way better example. No women would ever be ok with their boyfriend walking around in a speedo. It's the same. There's a limit to everything including how you dress when it comes to respecting people around you.
@Cece E touch a stripper and you find out hard way the next touch you get is usually by some 6'5 dude with biceps size of your head and the thing that touches you next....concrete.
@@cecee3480 no woman should tell a man what he chooses to see, regardless of the environment he puts himself in. If you’re the kind of woman who wants to control which places he visits and what he sees, you’re insecure.
Yikes. If my partner didn't want me leaving the house without him wearing a short skirt because I think I look fucking good in it, I'd dump them. This isn't the 1800's and telling your girl what the wear is pathetic.
Y’all see how hila went from looking humble af quiet to spouting nonsense and looking like a hot mess, while Ethan went from funny goofy that was slightly fat to actually goof that is fat
Im actually sad about that. Their story was so good before they got to what they are now. Poor af trying to survive, facing struggles along the way. Still coming on top and having a baby. And from that point it turned to shit
Ethan: you’re insecure if you’re not ok with letting your girl wear anything provocative whenever she wants The other guy: so what if hila did that? Ethan: I wouldn’t marry someone like that 😞. Edit: this was not paraphrased, Ethan literally did this in the video.
My ex had fully nude photos of her getting plugged on a photographer's website. They were there when I met her and after I found out I asked her to have them removed. She refused. I think it was the comments that raised the biggest concerns for me as they treated her as though she was property of the photographer "I love how you treat your bitches" was one of them. She also kept in contact with the guy the entirety of our 2-year relationship. My feelings had nothing to do with being insecure except the concern I had over her need to be validated and her continuing desire for that kind of attention. Long story short, we broke up and she got back with the photographer for another round of exposition. A girl that does this kind of thing sends clear signals that she wants more attention than you can give her.
honestly I struggle to have any sort of sympathy for you for not immediately leaving that whore as soon as you saw the pics. Men need to be held more accountable for the women they are choosing.
@@simonboucher5170 people like him for nostalgia but the guy is really a fat pandering lazy bastard who has the worst take on any situation possible because he’s pandering to the Twitter crowd who have no common sense and suffer from extreme gullibility syndrome.
You guys are the most Neutral dudes on UA-cam I've found. Not left, not right, you just genuinely good people and do your own thing. Mad respect my dudes
@@tonybablony2041 i have no expectations. If aba and preach did a switcheroo I'd move on. I just appreciate that they somehow get flamed from both sides and keep level heads. ive watched them for years and when all that fresh and fit drama happened and they wanted to knuckle up man aba and preach took the W and its because of who they are. and i appreciate that.
Not really, they’re basically center conservatives. Like, they call out the toxic red pill stuff when it goes to extreme, but they generally believe in the same values to a lesser extend.
I wouldn't say they are the most neutral, i think they are just the most honest and are willing to talk about anything and everything. i think the biggest part about preach and abba is they can see both sides even if they disagree and they have no issue saying exactly how they feel and they stand by what they say. They def got my respect
@@NoMorality33 mental capacity would imply that we would be absorbing something of substance and that would have a limit. Fortitude is relevant to the mental endurance required to endure Ethan for prolonged periods of time.
He wants views and different fans but he can't alienate the current crowd. He's stuck catering to a crowd he doesn't respect and it's the perfect place for him.
If a girl was dating a guy who was very attractive and had a 6-pack and she didn't like him posting shirtless pics online, Ethan would NEVER call her insecure, neither would Hila. This subject only swings one way for them. If a mans boundaries in any way infringe on a woman's desires, that man is labeled insecure.
Nice strawman. Sebastian does post shirtless thirst traps of himself on his Instagram. He said it was "different" than what women do, so said girlfriend doesn't even really have the ability to voice whether or not she's okay with it because he took that away from her with his unchecked hypocrisy. Your argument is instantly invalidated because it's predicated on the notion that insecurity is 1) always swings both ways when most of the time it doesn't, and 2) is always justified when most of the time it isn't and often classic projection from past trauma that has nothing to do with current partner who becomes the victim and/or deflection off of their own bad habits and desires.
What standards? The man has been with her since they were teenagers. He has zero idea what modern dating is like and his partner never got in to posting thirst traps until she could afford to look the way she does.
@@moneenerd Yes, and A&P impugn Ethan’s credibility by bringing up irrelevant sht that has no bearing on his main argument, even though Sebastian’s hypocrisy, which is integral to his argument gets completely ignored by their deceptive framing. That’s the problem.
@@SB-se7vb Him being a hypocrite has nothing to do with their point. Their argument is that having a preference doesn't equal insecurity. You could be fine with your wife literally posting nudes, and still be insecure. You can be against your wife dressing provocatively and not be insecure. It varies from person to person. Ethan saying, "You're insecure if you don't let your girl dress how she wants," isn't nuanced. It's stating something as factual even tho it isn't. (Sebastion could still be insecure, I'm just saying that his statement doesn't prove it." It's like saying, "You're racist if you think people of a certain race look similar to one another," no, it probably means that the person hasn't spent a lot of time around that race, and therefore they see generalized features.
@@SB-se7vb Ahh yeah because she says she's not seeking male validation means she's not lying. People definitely don't lie. Oh wait, women are the slimiest shadiest liars to walk the face of the earth. Thanks to social media, women were never like this before. And now, they're attention seeking, cheating, slutty, abusive, toxic, narcissistic, list goes on. WOmen are lying hoes.
What boundary? People who post such photos online for strangers validation, they don’t respect themselves enough than why would they respect other people’s boundary?
@@nunkibangtan07 Exactly, that's why I take pictures of me in decent clothes, my rabbits, and pictures when iam off work on a private account! Cause I don't seek strangers validation and don't want to act cool or have no clothes on to seek there acceptance. If I know you and like you then you are allowed on my account. If I don't know you buzz off that's what I like to say.
@@SlaterRecordsTV I think having to post yourself half nude on social media indicates insecurity. I dont want an insecure partner who needs external validation all the time.
Pretty much, it's also intellectually dishonest because he never explains why it's insecure. Insecurity has more to do with inner issues than someone actually doing something that is visibly attention drawing. He ain't dumb he just hates masculine or red pill men so much he needs to disagree with any point. You respecting and having a boundary in a relationship isn't insecurity. Someone thirst trapping is signaling to their partner that their attention and love isn't enough and need other men validating them, thus, signaling they're also open to engage with such men.
Also misogynistic, incel, basement dweller, woman hater, zesty, sassy, gay. Essentially any insults women use when men don’t agree with everything they say
It can be valid if you can explain why the other person is insecure. Aba and Preach have even used the argument themselves when speaking about that one dude who made a video about why the ideal woman shouldn’t be allowed to take her phone into the bathroom. However, Ethan just overused it to hell, and it became more of a crutch than an actual argument. He couldn’t explain why the preference was one out of irrational fear or genuine insecurity, so he just kept repeating the statement with no substance.
I’m a c-6 quadriplegic, I matched with a girl, started talking, etc. I found out she did OF, I told her that crosses my boundaries, and that I won’t date someone who does that. She got mad and tried to say that she looked over me being disabled, so why couldn’t I look over her doing OF? It’s obvious that there’s a huge difference, but she went on to berate me with insults, especially calling me “insecure”. I was laughing the whole time until she finished.
So if you don't want to be in a relationship with someone who needs to seek validation from strangers you're "insecure", but the one seeking it isn't!? We live in bizarro world
This should just be something you discuss with a person before going into a relationship with them. If I were to have a complete body transformation, like 300 to 180lbs, relationship or not, I’d definitely want to show that off lol
If you watch the whole thing tho the dude does look stupid, not bcz of what he said in the clips Aba n Preach watched and the stance they defended but bcz later the kid is outed as a hypocrit, so yeah on the whole that interview was a victory for Ethan in my opinion.
@Sara Arlavi It was an L for both parties. Aba and Preach were open about the fact the dude sounded like a goober a few times, but its legit Ethan who cant even call him out properly and being retarded that makes this an L for him
I love you guys!! It really gives me hope to see people like you who simply speak from a common sense, reality and respectful point of view. I think common sense - that true feeling in your gut is something that is withering away in society. Its both scary and sad. AnP please keep up the good work and I truly hope you are able to stay sane in this insane world. Thanks for all of the wonderful content. You make me laugh so much. God bless!!
Its crazy how they deliberately misinterpreted everything you said in order to make you seem bad, then accuse you guys for doing that exact same thing. The hypocrisy with Ethan and his slimy, toxic podcast group is off the charts. They have become so toxic that they can't differentiate an idea with a person. So in this case, they can't understand you defending solely the idea of not wanting your GF to look like a hoe, because in their opinion Sebastian is a bad guy. So defending his idea means you defend him as a person in their minds, which even a kid would understand is not true.
I'm still wondering who watches his shitty podcast. This is a guy whos career peak was dunking on shitty prank youtubers, what made him think that he's interesting enough to have a podcast?
"They're pandering to their fans who don't like me cause I'm fat" I used to be a big fan of H3H3, got through some genuine rough times laughing at their comedic videos. Ethan just as a person really sucks now because he's spent all this time deflecting accountability. He's always blamed something else when negativity comes his way, not sure why he thinks him being fat is suddenly an issue unless he himself is insecure. I only hate the fat of his ego.
The worst thing for me is when he says "that's your problem" if you are uncomfortable with your wife dressing up like a hoe. There is literally no "your problem" in a couple or relationship, it all becomes a common problem that needs to be tackled by both people. A relationship is all about working through your trauma and insecurities, but you are never supposed to do that on your own, the other party is supposed to be accomodating to you and help you to feel comfortable with them...
Unfortunately a very common mentality I've seen lately is people wanting to act like they are single and independent while also being in a relationship. They want the safety and security a relationship provides that they can fall back on but still act like they are single and can do whatever they want. All of the benefits with none of the sacrifice. And then they get mad when they find out the world and relationships don't work like that.
How many times in a relationship does the woman criticize what her man is wearing, saying stuff like "Your not wearing that.". That's okay for them to do that, but it's not okay if the man criticizes what the woman is wearing?? How is that right?
A girl I was on and off with mentioned starting an OF once. I totally respected her decision to do that if she wanted. I dipped for good though, cause I'm not dating someone that does OF. There's nothing controlling about it. She made a decision that she was free to make, and I made a decision that I was free to make.
Ethan has always been like this, he just doing it too people alot of people didnt like. He had a easy win with the fair use thing. Once he got that money the real him came out
@@BlackHippy313 No, he just hid it better, had different content. Podcasts were the worst fucking choice for Ethan. (Or maybe not, maybe he's made more money from this. *somehow* ) Ethan's never been good at handling criticism, at all, but at least he got less of it because he made funny content. Because he can be funny, it's his best (probably only redeemable), quality. He's just got a bad personality behind that talented humor.
You can see how it happen though Ethan only kept people around who echo him. Ethen has created a real life echo. Listen to his producers they literally just parrot what he says back to him
What do you think goes through Hila's mind when she posts pictures of her wearing revealing clothes? Do you think she is aware of what she is doing, or that she confusing empowerment with attention seeking?
I still don't see why she can't look attractive. Like of we go to a party and she wants to look pretty, there's nothing wrong with that. What if I feel better about myself because everybody sees I got a hot wife. What if I want to look handsome one day before we go out because I want to feel good about myself?
12:50 Here's the question I would ask: "Would you, Hila, be mad or suspicious if Ethan liked a photo of a girl posing just like you, in the same clothes as you? If the answer is yes, the argument ends there and if the answer is no, let's continue talking and discussing our views and how we differ."
This shit is crazy. I was the most insecure about myself when I was single and would post "thirst traps." Looking for validation from strangers. I am now the MOST confident I have ever been, I'm married and have no social media.
As a person whos gone through therapy during a relationship, the first thing they tell you to do is to set boundaries in that relationship, and if they cross them, then they are in the wrong, not you.
100% Its about self respect when you set boundaries for a relationship. Not everyone will have the same thoughts, feelings or life experiences. To set boundaries is the healthiest way to navigate through life alongside one another on terms you are both comfortable with.
You what’s ironic, in a previous video Ethan said he didn’t even watch your video he was replying to cause it was “upsetting” but he wants everyone to watch his whole video
Ethan is the type of guy that'll sit in a corner and watch his wife get railed by another man and not say a damn thing about it because he wouldn't want to sound insecure lol
I love how Ethan pauses your video every 5 seconds so that he can spin a lie before you even complete a sentence. That's the only effort he puts forth into responding And his producers try to back him up with childish rebuttals its ridiculous
He did this during gokanaru’s video, it got the point he finished saying the sentence and Ethan goes “wtf is he talking about?” like he couldn’t just rewind to get full context
I personally don't see pausing every 5 seconds as bad, the person could be digesting every sentence, it's his intentions behind it and how he uses it that's bad, he's already made up his mind and he's using that time to create a "rebuttal" if I could even call it that.
I hate the "you're just insecure" argument. First of all, insecurity is an emotion like any other, there are times where it's justified and times where it's not, its not a universally unacceptable emotion to have. Secondly, try this approach with literally ANY method in which men attract women and respond the same way and youll see how shallow the "insecurity" response is. "Babe, I was just buying random girls drink? Why are you trying to control my money? Are you insecure?" You can use the "insecure" line on literally everything to justify improper behaviours within a relationship.
Well said! Insecurity can be used as a tool for self-reflection, awareness, improvement or wielded as a weapon for emotional abuse & control. It has so many roots... abandonment fears, lack of confidence, past trauma, neglect whether it be past or present. It can show up in everything from codependency to narcissism & anxious to avoidant attachment styles & everything in between. Literally everyone has some type of insecurity, but details behind the behavior determine what's healthy or justified & what's not.
Bro the two do not relate, dressing how you want vs acting out is completely different. Women can dress however tf they want unless you set boundaries and if yall don't like each others boundaries then you break up anything else is insecurity. Why tf you gonna police your partner lmao?
Here's what it boils down too. If I'm in a relationship with someone, I don't want them dressing like they are looking for another relationship. Not because I'm insecure, but because I have the integrity to say that "We are in a committed relationship and I would prefer that you act like it."
@@xZero9Ox Women don’t “dress that way for themselves”. They know the looks and attention they are going to be getting from random men. It’s just trashy to invite all of that when you’re in a relationship with someone. Not to mention disrespectful.
@@Liminal-Lagomorph - So a woman shouldn't dress in a way that makes her feel good because men are horny? Also, can you link me some sources that say that women never dress a certain way for themselves?
@Zero9O It's not even just dressing that way, it's posting thirst trap pictures online too. If the chick is posting revealing pictures online, and going out in public leaving nothing to the imagination to make herself feel better, how is it not her being insecure? Like the guy said, you can dress attractively while wearing more than a sports bra.
The major difference is Keem is self-aware enough to know he’s an a**hole and why people don’t like him. He doesn’t take things personally, to a detrimental degree, like Ethan does. He, simply, plays the game the way he sees fit. Ethan is self-righteous and easily defensive. He’s playing the game, though, can’t stand how other players play - because he’s insecure and unhappy. I mean, look at the juxtaposition between Ethan and Hila. Hila has been putting so much effort into herself. Ethan doesn’t out any effort into himself. A man can still put minimal effort into his look - decent haircut and shave - and it make a world of difference. Ethan can’t even be bothered to clean up his beard, and not wear a hat to hide his grown-out haircut. I think Hila is a loyal woman. Though, I think the more effort she puts in herself, the more she feels confident about herself, and the more attention she gets.. Like I stated, I do think she is loyal, though, I don’t think she is gonna be willing to put up with Ethan’s poor behavior forever. Ethan looks like more beat down, every damned day. Which, is really sad - especially for a man with an incredibly successful career and beautiful family. Ethan has become a vastly poor example of “success.”
WATCH THE ORIGINAL, THIS IS SUCH A DISHONEST VIDEO 🤦♀️🤮 Sebastian seems to believe women should be wearing no less than a BURQA in public unless escorted by their boyfriends. Do yall not have any comprahension of what he is argueing for??? WOMEN ARE NOT A MONOLITH OR YOUR PROPERTY. They dont post pictures of themselves to attract male attention. ALL OF HILAS FOLLOWERS ARE WOMEN. They can post to feel good about themselves too and seek validation from OTHER WOMEN! We all seek validation from our relationships (family, friends, etc) NOT JUST MEN. So seeking validation IS NOT BAD its actually normal. YALL ARE LITTERALLY TAKING THE SIDE OF A MANOSPHERE CHILD 🙄🙄 And that clipped video where Ethan was supposedly avoiding the question was TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT (shocker). He was trying to understand what Sebastian defines/considers innapropriate clothing so they can debate better. UGH you people are gross rage baiters
I'll never understand why people watch Ethan, he's a slimy, bad faith, disingenuous, morally bankrupt piece of shit (the irony in him calling many others that). As a liberal, in the classical sense, he's an embarrassment to true liberalism.
So how does that diminish the fact that Sebastian is insecure in his relationship? If your answer as to why you don’t like how someone dresses, “I don’t like it because SHE’S MINE”, explain to me how that’s not indicative of likely unjustified insecurity.
@@SB-se7vb Take a step back. It doesn't even have to be about a significant other. If you have a good friend who knows you really dislike certain things - whatever they may be, they will probably avoid those things in your presence just out of respect for you and your relationship. If they don't respect you enough to avoid those things and you choose not to spend time with them does that make you insecure? They are "your" friend, which you could pretend was all about ownership and control or you could be reasonable and say it's about mutual respect and interests and, dare I say, compromise. It doesn't automatically have anything to do with insecurity. It may, but it may not. We need to be careful about assigning motivation to other people. It could be that a friend or family member was dressed a certain way and was assaulted, which would make it more about safety. That's probably not the case, but we don't know why Sebastian has that preference.
@@SB-se7vb No one in this comment thread said anything about it diminishing Sebastions "likely unjustified insecurity." But by Ethan's own definition of insecure, he himself is insecure.
"I don't want my girlfriend to have sex with other men, and if she does that's fine but I'm gonna remove myself from her life" imagine trying to control a woman like that??? CONTROLLING 😤
Imagine telling your girlfriend she can't bring other men into your bedroom. The god damn controlling Patriarchy trying to oppresse women again. I cant even. 😤
@@MostlyCloudy These liberals with open relationships are so embarrassing. Bending over backwards while watching their wife also bend over backwards while getting dicked down is peak liberal philosophy.
Ethan is spiraling. This is what happens when you surround yourself with people with the same ideas you have. They just echo it back at you vs actually challenging what your takes are.
Just goes to show you how it's perfectly acceptable to gaslight and undermine men if they're unhappy with anything in a relationship. Imagine a female influencer getting upset because her dude watches onlyfans, and he responds by telling her "you're just insecure, babe. That's your problem"... that dude would be publicly crucified online to no end without mercy.
We saw something similar. There was that streamer who accidentally showed that he was checking out that deep fake porn of his "streamer friends". Dude was crucified, crying on air, everyone was so upset, and that wasn't even real porn.
Ethan is the PERFECT example of a manchild that's been spoiled into his personality today. His parents didn't so a good job sadly. This man only derives Joy by putting down others, but when it comes to him, then suddenly he is such a victim and he didn't do anything wrooong, whereas people that he demonizes have done much less at the same time.
You guys aren't promoting yourself, you're discussing topics and giving your thoughts, opinions and views on it. Been doing it for years, I don't see you guys doing this for any validation. You're both just straight up dudes being honest with themselves and just talking. Been a long time listener and I have mad respect for you guys
That’s weird bc the dislikes on the debate video from 5 days ago suddenly tripled after this vid was made. These guys and their following probs had noooothing to do with it
@@LudwigHorsecock Well. There are plenty of people that also disagree with Ethan outside of these two. Me myself, I really don't care about ethan but I can see why his videos suddenly spiked in dislikes. Don't worry about your boy, like his other dramas it will fade away in time or get overshadowed by another drama until he inevitably/mistakenly starts another one.
Hila: Dresses provocatively for validation= insecure. Ethan: Enforces her insecurity. Man: I don't want my girl wearing barely any clothes outside. Ethan: You are insecure. Man: But you validate that. Hila: I will wear what i want where i want. Restaurant: I'm sorry madam you can't wear that to our restaurant.
U guys totally pander to fat phobic individuals
@Exotic perry you've a feeder fetish, we don't
I got the pin of shame. Unfortunately I truly do not deserve this prestigious award because I was being sarcastic 🙃 but I'm very honored and will take it!
@@sushilsharma4202 Feeder fetish?
@@escapedgoat5865 tuff at least it exposed those who agreed with your sarcasm un ironically
Obvious sarcasm lol
Ethan being fat NEVER crossed my mind. I think it was more why he looks homeless
There's a reason why his wife is posting thirst traps xD. She's looking for a new guy. She has the creativity to make things work. He's just someone who can talk and not say anything for hours.
Let's be real. Dude looks like the poster child for both.
You're just insecure 😉
its cos he's insecure. it shows his insecurity and hypocrisy tbh. its ok for Ethen to be insecure and use that to vilify others but its not ok for you set boundaries and standards. what do you expect from him?
Yeah, it's that he doesn't look like he takes care of himself. You can be overweight but still wear decent clothes and groom your facial hair.
“they just don’t like me cause i’m fat” is literal insecurity
Exactly brooo lol
its also deflection 😂
yup lol
He's not smart enough to understand lol
😭😭
You know what is insecure? Changing your standards so that your partner will stay or staying yourself despite your partner violating your boundaries.
Exactly. Nowadays having boundaries is "toxic", un less it's their own. "I can set boundaries but no you". People are just selfish
@@Kaybye555 We live in an age of rampant narcissism.
Boundaries? Self-respect? Standard values? What's with that?? Insecuuuuuuuureeeee!!!
Where is the line for personal evolution? If someone was once not okay with it but now is, are they now insecure or have they changed their mind?
@@shplorf1977 You can evolve into a cuck if you want. Nobody is stopping you bro.
Being called a piece of sh*t by Ethan Klein is a compliment
What annoys me is that people like Ethan are the type to say "you need to respect people's boundaries," but will yell at and scream that you are being "toxic and insecure" when you set some boundaries.
Facts.
That's the trick.
It's no different from the dudebros that say they want their women to have a low body count but are kicking chicks to the curb if they don't put out on the first date.
They just want what's beneficial for them. Even if it's hypocritical
That’s California politics in a nutshell.
@@kyleflournoy7730right? Lmao, they want them as pure and untouched as Virgin Mary herself, but they need to be freaks on the sheets and on top of their laps the moment they say "come, bbabygirl"
Like bruuuuuh..... Pick one 😅
@@UintaDave Duuudddeee, that is it! He is now acting like a rich Californian White girl
Ethan is trying to preach to his “anything is acceptable” crowd while not wanting them to think he doesn’t have any standards himself.
This
Dude, have you ever said at least one nice thing in your life? Nothing to do with Ethan or the situation, just genuinely wondering.
Edit: The amount of butthurt, anti-social diesel boys is hilarious.
“It’s not like she’s dressed like a P star” 😂
This is like Beyoncé selling the dream single ladies and irreplaceable while keeping Jay Z even when he cheats. Same with Cardi B. Independent women promotion but are different people in their actual lives 😂
I didnt know you came back! The legend
His wife should dress as provocatively as possible. I quite enjoy it. Show us you’re not insecure.
No one ever accused Ethan of being intelligent.
Why anyone would think so is beyond me. Why anyone would ever associated with him to begin with.
No one ever accused Ethan of being in shape.
I honestly don't understand how they have fans.
@@TyrianHazeround is a shape
@@champ7139 I’m in your walls Chump!
Damn so no one is allowed to have boundaries I guess. You just have to be uncomfortable with something your partner is doing and let the resentment build up over time.
lol nailed it
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@Just a turtle hello just a turtle
You guys took the L
I don't want to live in a world where we can't disagree. I think being able to disagree with someone, articulate your thoughts, and still come out respecting the other person is the only way we can ever make progress both in our personal lives and as a society. If all a person can hear when Aba calls out unhealthy weight is an insult, then that person is not listening at all.
Red flag, if a woman says you're insecure. It means she's going to be manipulative AF
THANK YOU!!! That twap owns him!! 😂😂😂
That is the single most moronic comment in this whole section, wow you are out of touch
Lmao no usually yall are insecure
@@sruthi2708 no, usually y’all are manipulative af and just use insecure to further manipulate.
Unfortunately insecure people are more susceptible to that sort of manipulation
Man, they really hate when y'all accurately call them out. Wonder if they'll ignore everything you said here and complain more.
Lethan
They didn't accurately call them out though. They took one part of the conversation and reacted to , neglecting relevant parts of the conversation. That's why Ethan wants folks to see the entire debate. The premise of this dress code is that as a male he should have full say in the relationship and the woman has none and should not be argumentative. His opinion is the only one that matters in the relationship. That changes the context of him telling her how to dress.
@@dy9300 Ethan does the same thing
You know they will
@@dy9300 I watched the interview in full. Aba and preach are spot on
Watching h3 is like watching your drunk Reddit uncle talking about relationships while his wife acts like a unhappy hype man
What the hell is a "Reddit Uncle?"
@@owenlealthe new wave
Ethan is the kind of guy that will say you're insecure if you can't look your girl in the eye while her boyfriend is railing her out, and tell her how empowered she looks.
I envisioned Sneako
Sneako is insecure
Yea that's what logically follows if you take the view that all insecurity is bad. Nothing wrong with having boundaries and feeling jealousy about someone you love
@@user-mb8rf7qk5q Sneako is the red-pilled version of Ethan.
Lol I'm not saying with someone like that. He for the streets.
Ethan Klein is the type of guy to call doctor fatphobic for telling him being fit is healthier than being fat
no he isnt lmao
@Joe Preston have you not seen his content, dude would say anything for any reason
Well he said working out is a waste of time
@@JP8YT he kind of proved he is by being so insecure about it
@Heisenberg Are you supplying Ethan's wife meth? Cause she looks like she's on it.
Wanna know something that is certifiably insecure? Letting your girlfriend do whatever the hell she wants for fear of her dumping you.
Dayyyyyummmmmm
What an angle 👍🏾
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ethan is way more Alpha than Babble & Reach💪
Change my mind.
@@nv2138712nsijudnf nice bait
@dirt-kw7cy*turns away from mic to breathe”
"No one can tell me what to wear" no, but you don't get to decide how your partner reacts to it. How they feel about it. You can't decide that they have to be OK with it.
Ethan is a elite gaslighter.. it’s crazy how he changes up what was said and twists the words
Facts!
except he's really bad at it xD an elite gaslighter would do it without you even realizing it.
Elite clown*
You gotta wonder with what hila has to deal with from him behind the scenes. Guys who virtue signal this hard and try to seem like the ultimate defenders of women usually end up having their own abuse scandals behind the scenes. He’s got classic nice guy syndrome. It’s a shame how he’s fallen.
@@eavesdropper0 this
Ethan is the type of dude who would cry himself to sleep if he found out his missus had a Tinder, but would never confront her and would pretend to encourage it, because he is too insecure to risk losing her.
thats basically Idubbz now
Rings so true
This is what you Betas would do 😂
@@nv2138712nsijudnf "Betas" lol
Wait, I don't know who the white people are in this video but that person next to him is a woman? Like for real? 👀
The ending where Ethans wife snapped at abas remark about needing internet validation was the most INSECURE lash out out of everything discussed here. Very telling how on point he was.
Yep it’s a situation of I’m not seeking validation consciencly but when those likes, yass queens and fire emojis simps come in, the dopamine sure hits like a drug
bro i wish there was a repost button because this comment >
She should snap off. Aba and Preach are being sexist. Hila has had 2 babies and got back into incredible shape and wants to show how hard she worked. Lmao stfu.
And here I thought Hila was the calm one
I spit out my drink when I heard it 💀
"If you're not cool with your woman screwing another guy then you're just insecure"
- Ethan Klein
"They're pandering to their fans that don't like me because I'm fat"
The cope is strong on this one.
he's still smoking from the grill he got from that other dude about the six pack
Bro even his fans criticize ethan for his dumb takes.
Ong bro is deepthoating the libtard boot lol
I personally don't like Ethan cause he looks like he smells like yeast
The crotch kind
i use to watch H3H3 once they did the podcast format, i lost interest. Hes uneducated, ignorant and a cuck. Dude is completely out of touch with reality. No one his team challenges his idea. its stupid
“They hate me cause I’m fat” is such a weird thing to say given that his weight wasn’t even brought up in the slightest
Projection. He hates himself. No wonder he agrees with the "its about woman's confidence". Most people who look good wanna be seen no matter the gender lul. He just can't relate.
He’s insecure in himself so much that it’s leaking into everything; projection
Sounds like Ethan is insecure
:v)
Also , why is everyon always insecure when it comes to this guy ?
Thats his only go-to .
I really think he’s trolling. He got what he wanted: attention (from A&P), now he wants to utilize it for more.
Ethan: "That's insecurity"
Everyone: "How?"
Ethan: "Because it's insecurity"
Aba and Preach knocked it out the park with this one. Ethan looked at the full range of preference and simply declared that anyone beneath his threshold is "wrong". But that thinking is flawed because, you could ask him would he be okay with his partner going to the store butt naked? No? Well a nudist would call him controlling because he wouldn't allow his partner to walk around naked. The nudist says he's insecure and controlling.
Or would he allow his partner to fuck someone else right in front of him? No? Well, a polygamous person would say he's controlling. You wouldn't allow your partner to be sexually free? The polygamous couple says he's controlling and insecure. His logic is utterly flawed.
fucking clown
I feel Ethan is just scared of losing his wife.. he has low self esteem & 0 confidence. He knows this is the best he will ever get and if he loses her he wont get anyone this pretty. Thats why he has to be the “yes” man and please her. No matter how much he is disrespected.
The weird part is that Ethan could look good if he made the effort, but he's for whatever reason always leaned into the role of the extremely unattractive weirdo nerd and it so obviously comes from insecurity. If Ethan started ti eat healthier, work out more, start wearing clothes that would compliment him and got a barber to help him out with his hair and beard, he would be an attractive guy. If he then worked on his personality too so that he is actually someone that a woman would want, then maybe shit would change for him. I don't understand why he's never attempted to look good. It feels like systematic and deliberate self sabotage.
@@plantemor couldnt have said it better
@@plantemorAgree, it's sad because he has the money to spend on himself
He should want to make an effort for his wife also
Imagine being called "insecure" because i don't want my girlfriend to post thirst pictures on her instragram or even worse have an onlyfans. We truly live in a society.
Imagine being called transphobic for not wanting your husband to transition into a woman and ruin your marraige.
@@leroyrodgers6089 Wtf does that have to do with this video?
@@andergarcia4953 Specifically what he said doesn't but it's the same logic Ethan is using in his arguments, he just made a joke about it regarding trans.
@Ander Garcia it's part of the crazy nonsense in our society. People are called incel, insecure, bigots, toxic, phobic etc. For any sort of disagreements. No?
@@leroyrodgers6089 Or the people who call you transphobic if you're a straight male and you don't want to date a man who has transitioned into a woman and is now a "woman".
I love how he’s treating “insecurity” like it instantly wins the argument; if you are insecure then you must be in the wrong 😂 like bro that’s literally the problem, if my partner is thirsting for other people’s attention and it makes me feel like the foundation of this relationship is… NOT SECURE 😭 then I’m gonna look for a relationship where I can find that
This comment just opened my third eye.
His problem is looking at everything as a harmful redpill boogeyman angle , even if something is a completely normal sentiment and not redpill at all. He thinks he's fighting some fresh and fit type ideals and needs to channel his inner woke to call other insecure. This is the issue with people like H3 and hasan. They "think" they're fighting something that "SEEMS" like redpill/right wing and feel obligated to fight it tooth and nail without knowing anything about the subject.
I’d love to ask Ethan where it ends? Am I insecure if I don’t want my wife to sleep with other men? At what point am I no longer being insecure anymore?
I mean, if Ethan wants to be cucked, that’s fine, that’s his business, but him wanting to be cucked, doesn’t mean that everyone NOT wanting to be cucked, is suddenly being insecure. 😂
Well yes but Aba and Preach were arguing it’s not insecurity, it is though, it’s insecurity, it’s semantics but it’s still insecurity, how are we missing this? 🤔
Yeah, I don't know what to call it exactly, but it's like using the connotation of a word as a prepackaged argument and conversational mic drop.
If we think about it, Ethan and his wife saying that not wanting to be with someone that is provocative in public is controlling, then they are also necessarily saying that other person is entitled be provocative (which they are) and be in a relationship with you.
Ethan Mental De-Klein is a master at being disingenuous when asked a question and using ad hominem’s when he cant win a argument 🤦🏽♂️
That's just his tribe's tactics
@@True-Sea-Turtle tiny hats, huge noses tribe.
@@True-Sea-Turtle wild people like yall exist
😂😂😂
“Ethan Mental De-Klein”
Good S, my guy!!
@@True-Sea-Turtle Ethan is actually against ''his tribe'' your point is stupid.
Preferences are only controlling when they're forced. He didn't force it; he said he'd find someone who fits his wants and leaves.
No one calls someone insecure more than an insecure person.
"You are insecure for not letting your wife get dicked down by strangers!" -Most secure liberal you will run into
Yup and he doesn't even notice his wife is out searching for others attention now 😂🤣. Divorced in 3 years tops.
You're not wrong, people often caught up throw insecure to gaslight the other person.
@@badpenny8986 cope harder Beta!
@@nv2138712nsijudnf yeah exactly Ethan is coping hard you too.
Ethan is the physical embodiment of “Damn, you used to be the man homie.”
He can’t look or hear anything without misquoting it to make himself look good.
Lol he was never the man. He was always horrible
cmon he said he hopes his fellow jewish man who has different views from him to be gassed like thr holocaust 😂 to wish your people's painful history on your own ppl is the lowest form of comeback
He was never *_"The Man",_* homie.
Ethan is the physical embodiment of *_"Never Meet Your Heroes"_* and a textbook example of *_"People will show you who they really are, in time."_*
They are the direct descendants of the Trotskyite Jews of the 60s and 70s who participated in the destruction of morals and the family in the West. It's funny, but all these former left-wing Jews now represent 90% of the American neo-conservatives who have destroyed the Middle East. They only apply the subversive ideology of Frankism (Jacob Joseph Frank), accelerating the coming of the "Messiah" by increasing corruption and evil on earth. Israel Shahak and Gilad Atzmon are two honest Jews who speak well of this. Talmudic Judaism is a cancer for humanity, read Douglas Reed to understand it. Finally Kanye West was right ! I would be curious to see who the sponsors are behind these two insignificant people, we always find Zionist networks. Otherwise these two insignificant and ugly characters (Ethan and his turkey) would never have succeeded.
@@nedflanders4158 look at all you Betas 😅 being so salty that Ethan is rich, happy and way more successful than you’ll ever be.
Insecurity is showing..
As a women I feel like it’s nobody’s business seeing what my body looks like underneath my clothes. I also don’t need to dress provocative to get anyone’s attention. The dressing half naked thing isn’t for me
i think all beautiful woman should walk half-naked. but it's just me, no pressure
👏👏👏 EXACTLY
I’m a woman, in a relationship, and there’s a big difference between “pretty”, “provocative” and “sexy”. It’s subjective and if the other person you’re with is uncomfortable, you need to understand where they’re coming from, what’s disturbing them it the outfit and it’s not being controlling, it’s just proper communication in a relationship.
exactly and it may not be the clothes themselves on the body but what message others will recieve and the impression you are making to others when they see those things. not everyone will respect someone dressed like a stripper, or even a nun, and we cannot get mad at people for having their biases. we all have them, it’s the way in which you act upon those biases that matters.
not only this but a woman can wear anything else and still feel sexy. My Girl is busty, there is no way of getting around the fact her tits will be on show. But its the degree in which they are on show that i would have a problem with. Luckily she has some really elegant and sexy dresses that arnt too revealing. But Even she knows where the line is and if anything she holds the sexiest outfits for me if we go for a date or meal etc. I didnt mind her posts on social media before we got together as she was a model and single. But now she just posts modest phtoos. She has respect for our relationship, she knows she gets jealous with me around people so she knows that its right that she dosnt do anything to make me jealous as then we are hypocrites. Realtionships are bound with respect for one another. If she dosnt respect how you feel about dressing too provactively then you shouldnt respect how she wants you to dress either. Its a two way street.
You are not for the streets
For argument's sake, how do you know whether or not Sebastian's definition of "provocative" isn't wildly out of proportion with the commonly accepted definition either? Also, Sebastian isn't dating Ethan's wife, so your proper communication argument is instantly invalidated as it is a subjective judgement that can only be made and reinforced within the context of their relationship.
Thank you for having some sense
"What is provocative to you"
A few moments later..
"It's not like she's dressed like a pornstar"
Gaslighting at its finest. So Ethan knows exactly what he was talking and yet still call him insecure. This is a sickness!
of the highest orda
Fam I’ve been catching on to shyt like that as well. If you watched Ethan back in the day you know he’s shown a certain level of awareness. He’s just playing dumb and gaslighting.
@@franciscobrenesherrera1224he’s a simp and truly at his core he cares about his girl not dressing the way she does. He exposed himself with that line
I think he is scared of his wife leaving him, he doesnt have much to offer to her anymore
@@cgigammez5749 yep he makes money by talking rubish and that money might not be enough anymore
It always amazes me how disingenuous Ethan can be. He has no idea how to properly debate without seeming like an immature child just throwing out insults
Debate on what? He was reacting live to that video when it dropped, on a comedy channel.
Its not a debate channel, nor is it really political aside from one of their shows. They goof on people who make videos on Ethan on every other episode.
The dude never took himself seriously in his videos before the podcast, and he still doesn't on it either. How should anyone take him seriously when he doesn't.
Anybody remember the H3 podcast with Jordan Peterson?
Lmao watch Bill burr bully Ethan its pure gold
@@wenlisman debate on preference and boundaries
18:30 this. Exactly this. There’s nothing wrong with wanting your girl to not post “thirst traps.” It doesn’t cross into being “controlling” until you are trying to change their behaviors or habits that they already had
I’ve noticed as a non native English speaker. English is my second language and when you learn another language you learn to respect and understand what words mean a lot more than a native speaker.
Let’s say I use the word ignorant describe a person. Most native English speakers automatically assume that I am implying that the person is stupid, but when somebody is ignorant, it means they just lack the knowledge. It has nothing to do with the intelligence or the lack of it.
For example, words like insecure or misogyny. These words invoke a certain reaction and people use that to their advantage. The best way to fight that is to ask them to define what the word means and you’ll notice they start beatboxing because they don’t actually know. The words lose their meaning because they’re trendy to use and shows the limited vocabulary of people who don’t use words accurately to describe accurate behaviors.
That really super interesting! I learned something new today!
All of this is so true. I've seen it happen dozens of times.
When you have boundaries you're seen as insecure for some reason today. I'm supposed to just accept everything forced on me haaaard pass
That's a nice observation.
Not exactly, words have different definitions. Like the word ignorent has 3, one enticing that one unaware and uninformed, another that they lack education and knowledge or showing that lack. Ig where i am coming from is context matters, also a language is constantly evolving and changing. Definitions get added and modified, ex: litteraly also now means not litteraly at times.
"It's so controlling to not be with someone who doesn't respect your boundaries." That's straight up gaslighting.
If his wife did want to show her asshole on camera I wonder if hat his reaction would be since he was so against it. Like she said if she felt like doing it no one could tell her what to do.
That’s straight up you not knowing what gaslighting means 😅
@@nv2138712nsijudnf Then explain it. Because telling a person their boundaries are not valid when their boundaries aren't harming another person is most definitely gaslighting. Either your partner respects your boundaries and stays with you, or they don't respect your boundaries and leaves. But controlling a person's boundaries is definitely gaslighting.
@@nv2138712nsijudnf
gaslight:
verb
gerund or present participle: gaslighting
manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning.
That is definitely gaslighting.
@@nv2138712nsijudnf Imagine being so confidently wrong haha, you smooth brain
Everyone is asking Ethan Klein if he believes its okay for women to dress provocatively but no one is asking Cher if she still believes in life after love. 💁
HAHAHAHA underrated comment 😂
😂😂😂
Lmfao
Cher is the blonde sitting with Ethan right?
this is why i scroll through comments
Hilla is showing classic symptoms of being in a relationship she doesnt want to be in intimatly anymore. Her and Ethan have just melted into the friendzone and shes working on her looks more because she is subconciously looking for another mate.
Well it sounds like based on the shit they say, she is probably fucking other dude ms and he knows “but isn’t insecure”
She moved to America, got entrenched in American "culture" and now her personality is ruined,and she's also stuck with that...thing.
She needs to bail and go back home before its too late
@@dissraps Based, all Israelis should go back to Israel
Yea, Hila actually used to be a normal human being. She became the standard trashy LA person quickly.
A relationship without boundaries isn't a relationship, it's a time bomb.
I’m guessing your is a hypothetical?
When you get in one you’ll realise that (not always) but sometimes you’ll have to bend over backwards
@@nboyknowsnothing5311 not for a healthy one 😅, compromise yes, bending over backwards, no
@@nboyknowsnothing5311 that’s not what he said 😂😂😂
@@nboyknowsnothing5311 lol you're a jackass. You should never have to bend over backwards in a relationship. It's a give and take with roles. I will never bend over backwards for my girl and I won't expect her to either.
@@nboyknowsnothing5311 projecting activated when someone mentioned relationships
Hila definitely felt that comment: “If you need to be posting pictures of yourself online for validation from strangers, that’s a bit suss” 😂
r/notliketheothers
Its amazing how the H3 crew are initially so confident you guys are pieces of shit but as they think the situation through they run into nuances and end up basically repeating your original position, while still holding the attitude that they are morally superior to you. It was honestly breathtaking to witness.
Well if you spent years propping up Trisha Paytas, you have to go hard in the opposite direction
It just seemed one big goal post shift. "I need to see what he thinks is provocative" damn it B, it's about the concept not where a particular line is drawn.
“It was breathtaking!” Bro calm down a bit 😂
That Dan guy irritates me the most. Overly adamant about ignorant positions.
This Dan guy just calls them transphobes, idiots, losers, straight up, without any good reason. He acts like he’s some sort of saint when in reality he’s just a dog who defends ethan on anything he says.
I liked these guys until he came for yall. You guys helped me open my eyes, become more equal and grow as a person. Seeing him misrepresent you guys is insane 😅 Yall are always right 😅😅
Yeah it's very unfortunate to see horrible leadership but it is what it is
What's truly insecure?
Sticking with your boundaries and being confident enough to leave the relationship if they are stepped over.
or
Being so worried of losing your partner that you let them do whatever they want even when it's disrespectful towards you
SPOT ON 🎯
GOT EM
Well put.
Straight confident males is public enemy number one these days.
Top comment material right here.
The misunderstanding on the controlling part is because clearly she's manipulative. So in her brain she equates "I don't want to date you because I don't like your behavior" to "I'm using the threat of ending the relationship to control your behavior".
She's projecting her own manipulative nature into the statement.
As opposed to Sebastian projecting his insecurity onto his girlfriend by literally saying “I don’t like it because SHE’S MINE”. That’s not a reasonable and well articulated response to prove you’re anything other than unjustifiably and irrationally insecure.
@@SB-se7vb she's mine, and I am hers. There is mutual respect for the relationship. That's the whole point of being in a relationship in my opinion. No sharing 😡
@@OBEYxINSANITY There’s a difference between sharing glances with other people and sharing partners. If you can’t see the tremendous leap in mental gymnastics from the former to the latter, I can’t help you.
@@SB-se7vb if "sharing glances" is what you call it, then neither me nor my wife agree. Not even glances are worth sharing lmao we are a team of 2. And we are strongest this way. 💪 again, she is mine and I am hers.
And I don't remember asking for any help 😅
@@SB-se7vb That's not what he said. He said his significant other should not need attention and validation from strangers by dressing in a provocative manner. That is both reasonable and well articulated. Your focus tells us more about you than it does about him.
Now imagine gaslighting your woman for asking you to stay away from strip clubs by telling her she's just being insecure. It's the same thing for men, being told they're insecure for wanting their woman to be decent.
You touching other women/ interacting with women in a sexual environment is not equal to the way someone dresses.
@@cecee3480 you can go to a strip club and not touch anyone. But there's a way better example. No women would ever be ok with their boyfriend walking around in a speedo. It's the same. There's a limit to everything including how you dress when it comes to respecting people around you.
@Cece E touch a stripper and you find out hard way the next touch you get is usually by some 6'5 dude with biceps size of your head and the thing that touches you next....concrete.
@@cecee3480 no woman should tell a man what he chooses to see, regardless of the environment he puts himself in. If you’re the kind of woman who wants to control which places he visits and what he sees, you’re insecure.
@@cecee3480Think the point he's trying to get across is that it would be reasonable if she asked him not to go to the strip club.
Yikes. If my partner didn't want me leaving the house without him wearing a short skirt because I think I look fucking good in it, I'd dump them. This isn't the 1800's and telling your girl what the wear is pathetic.
Y’all see how hila went from looking humble af quiet to spouting nonsense and looking like a hot mess, while Ethan went from funny goofy that was slightly fat to actually goof that is fat
Im actually sad about that. Their story was so good before they got to what they are now. Poor af trying to survive, facing struggles along the way. Still coming on top and having a baby. And from that point it turned to shit
That’s what money does to you.
Trash people revealing their true colors.
It's LA it ruins people
Hot? She’s starting to look like skeletor b
Ethan Klein's whole business model is literally strawmanning people. He is not only fat, he is dense.
🤣🤣🤣
He's a moldy enriched roll.
Lmao
this
Ethan: you’re insecure if you’re not ok with letting your girl wear anything provocative whenever she wants
The other guy: so what if hila did that?
Ethan: I wouldn’t marry someone like that 😞.
Edit: this was not paraphrased, Ethan literally did this in the video.
The way logic completely avoids Ethan truly damages me as a human being
Don't let anyone rub you this intimately for naught.
Anyway, that comment was hilarious.
Echo chamber, think they are too far gone there to be normal.
Ethan evades logic like h3 evades the gym and opposite of how hila hits the meth pipe.
@@DakkonDS I don't know what happened to them, I used to watch them but he went bonkers after switching to the podcast.
It's like he's hydrophobic but for logic and nuance.
11:53 "Ethan Mental De'Klein" bro I pissed myself on that one 😂
Trying to explain normal/healthy relationships to people in LA is like trying to explain what walking is like to a fish.
The average relationship lasts about 3 months in LA
@@Wizard_of_ZaZadog or human months?
Asking for research purposes
@@TtheguyfromZA lol I thought we were talking about the life of mayflies.
Very true
My ex had fully nude photos of her getting plugged on a photographer's website. They were there when I met her and after I found out I asked her to have them removed. She refused. I think it was the comments that raised the biggest concerns for me as they treated her as though she was property of the photographer "I love how you treat your bitches" was one of them. She also kept in contact with the guy the entirety of our 2-year relationship. My feelings had nothing to do with being insecure except the concern I had over her need to be validated and her continuing desire for that kind of attention. Long story short, we broke up and she got back with the photographer for another round of exposition. A girl that does this kind of thing sends clear signals that she wants more attention than you can give her.
Sorry to tell you but she didn't "get back" with him. Can't call it a comeback if she never left.
i doubt she ever left tbh.
she belongs to the street.
honestly I struggle to have any sort of sympathy for you for not immediately leaving that whore as soon as you saw the pics. Men need to be held more accountable for the women they are choosing.
this is why men need to learn to stick to their standards and rspect their boundaries
Ethan is a master at purposely misconstruing the points people try to make
It called pilpul.
Idk about master, a master would be able to do it without you noticing, Ethan is just garbage at making points or has no comprehension skills lmao
This shit work only on dumbasses too dumb to think for themself. Plenty of them for Ethan to support his incredibly slow downfall of his channel xd
He,s not a master at it at all because he does it so obviously and so badly it's ridiculous
@@simonboucher5170 people like him for nostalgia but the guy is really a fat pandering lazy bastard who has the worst take on any situation possible because he’s pandering to the Twitter crowd who have no common sense and suffer from extreme gullibility syndrome.
You guys are the most Neutral dudes on UA-cam I've found. Not left, not right, you just genuinely good people and do your own thing. Mad respect my dudes
Hit the nail on the head my friend
Yea but don’t put such high expectations on them.
@@tonybablony2041 i have no expectations. If aba and preach did a switcheroo I'd move on. I just appreciate that they somehow get flamed from both sides and keep level heads. ive watched them for years and when all that fresh and fit drama happened and they wanted to knuckle up man aba and preach took the W and its because of who they are. and i appreciate that.
Not really, they’re basically center conservatives. Like, they call out the toxic red pill stuff when it goes to extreme, but they generally believe in the same values to a lesser extend.
I wouldn't say they are the most neutral, i think they are just the most honest and are willing to talk about anything and everything. i think the biggest part about preach and abba is they can see both sides even if they disagree and they have no issue saying exactly how they feel and they stand by what they say. They def got my respect
Ethan thinking any of us have the mental fortitude to watch him go through an entire interview is a hell of an assumption
Capacity*
@@NoMorality33 mental capacity would imply that we would be absorbing something of substance and that would have a limit. Fortitude is relevant to the mental endurance required to endure Ethan for prolonged periods of time.
I know right lol
@@PraisetheSun150 masterfully said my friend
He wants views and different fans but he can't alienate the current crowd. He's stuck catering to a crowd he doesn't respect and it's the perfect place for him.
the fact they put the full interview in the link after that is insane overkill
If a girl was dating a guy who was very attractive and had a 6-pack and she didn't like him posting shirtless pics online, Ethan would NEVER call her insecure, neither would Hila. This subject only swings one way for them. If a mans boundaries in any way infringe on a woman's desires, that man is labeled insecure.
Nice strawman. Sebastian does post shirtless thirst traps of himself on his Instagram. He said it was "different" than what women do, so said girlfriend doesn't even really have the ability to voice whether or not she's okay with it because he took that away from her with his unchecked hypocrisy. Your argument is instantly invalidated because it's predicated on the notion that insecurity is 1) always swings both ways when most of the time it doesn't, and 2) is always justified when most of the time it isn't and often classic projection from past trauma that has nothing to do with current partner who becomes the victim and/or deflection off of their own bad habits and desires.
@@SB-se7vb enough internet for you Mr. brain rot
@@SB-se7vb Wtf are you talking about?
@@Sims4T I’m sorry that you’re too dumb to comprehend how to read + how basic logic works.
@@Sims4T 💀
I can't imagine being so insecure that I don't have standards for my relationships because I'm terrified that women won't like me.
What standards? The man has been with her since they were teenagers. He has zero idea what modern dating is like and his partner never got in to posting thirst traps until she could afford to look the way she does.
yeah, this whole thing screams "I have zero standards" to me
@@moneenerd Yes, and A&P impugn Ethan’s credibility by bringing up irrelevant sht that has no bearing on his main argument, even though Sebastian’s hypocrisy, which is integral to his argument gets completely ignored by their deceptive framing. That’s the problem.
@@SB-se7vb Him being a hypocrite has nothing to do with their point. Their argument is that having a preference doesn't equal insecurity.
You could be fine with your wife literally posting nudes, and still be insecure.
You can be against your wife dressing provocatively and not be insecure.
It varies from person to person. Ethan saying, "You're insecure if you don't let your girl dress how she wants," isn't nuanced. It's stating something as factual even tho it isn't. (Sebastion could still be insecure, I'm just saying that his statement doesn't prove it."
It's like saying, "You're racist if you think people of a certain race look similar to one another," no, it probably means that the person hasn't spent a lot of time around that race, and therefore they see generalized features.
@@SB-se7vb Ahh yeah because she says she's not seeking male validation means she's not lying. People definitely don't lie. Oh wait, women are the slimiest shadiest liars to walk the face of the earth. Thanks to social media, women were never like this before. And now, they're attention seeking, cheating, slutty, abusive, toxic, narcissistic, list goes on. WOmen are lying hoes.
It’s sad that these ppl think respecting your partner’s boundaries is insecurity.
These ppl are not loyal.
It’s only insecure for men. Men in 2023 can’t have boundaries.
What boundary? People who post such photos online for strangers validation, they don’t respect themselves enough than why would they respect other people’s boundary?
@@nunkibangtan07 Exactly, that's why I take pictures of me in decent clothes, my rabbits, and pictures when iam off work on a private account! Cause I don't seek strangers validation and don't want to act cool or have no clothes on to seek there acceptance. If I know you and like you then you are allowed on my account. If I don't know you buzz off that's what I like to say.
Mother of God this is hard to watch. I salute you fine gentlemen for wading through this shite for us.
Sincerely,
- a former H3 fan
The Fallen Fan™
I remember when he was a skin in payday 2 goddamn how they've fallen
@@owenbaxter7945 I remember when he was rolling with the likes of JonTron and Filthy Frank
Same here. Used to watch them a couple of years ago
same brother.
I turned from being a big fan to hating their guts. h3 has to fuckin go.
Every single one of Ethan's responses can be summed up to "no, you're wrong, I'm right" without giving any god damn reason as to why that is.
He is unable to reason. He is totally blind to the sheer stupidity of his position.
Nah your just insecure and if you disagree it's because you hate Ethan cos he's fat
Are you saying calling people names is not a good reason?
So what you’re saying is you didn’t watch the debate
@@LudwigHorsecock yah the debate was fucking stupid. Ethan is braindead and so is the tik tok guru.
as a woman if my boyfriend/husband posted shirtless thirst traps i would not be happy. works both ways
and it's bc youre insecure.
dont date people you cant trust lol
@@SlaterRecordsTV lel
@@SlaterRecordsTV Boundaries = insecurity hmmmm?👇
@@dickwoods536 na, insecurity = insecurity... You're insecure, get gaslit
@@SlaterRecordsTV I think having to post yourself half nude on social media indicates insecurity. I dont want an insecure partner who needs external validation all the time.
"Your insecure" is just the new lazy way of not engaging with someone's view points or arguments
Pretty much, it's also intellectually dishonest because he never explains why it's insecure.
Insecurity has more to do with inner issues than someone actually doing something that is visibly attention drawing. He ain't dumb he just hates masculine or red pill men so much he needs to disagree with any point.
You respecting and having a boundary in a relationship isn't insecurity. Someone thirst trapping is signaling to their partner that their attention and love isn't enough and need other men validating them, thus, signaling they're also open to engage with such men.
I wonder how far this could go. If Ethan doesn't let Hila bang like 3 guys a day is he insecure? Is it just insecure to have any boundries?
For the people who brought you, "Who hurt you?" comes ,"Your insecure"
Also misogynistic, incel, basement dweller, woman hater, zesty, sassy, gay. Essentially any insults women use when men don’t agree with everything they say
It can be valid if you can explain why the other person is insecure. Aba and Preach have even used the argument themselves when speaking about that one dude who made a video about why the ideal woman shouldn’t be allowed to take her phone into the bathroom.
However, Ethan just overused it to hell, and it became more of a crutch than an actual argument. He couldn’t explain why the preference was one out of irrational fear or genuine insecurity, so he just kept repeating the statement with no substance.
“There’s another man out there…” OMG dying ahahhaa
I’m a c-6 quadriplegic, I matched with a girl, started talking, etc. I found out she did OF, I told her that crosses my boundaries, and that I won’t date someone who does that. She got mad and tried to say that she looked over me being disabled, so why couldn’t I look over her doing OF? It’s obvious that there’s a huge difference, but she went on to berate me with insults, especially calling me “insecure”. I was laughing the whole time until she finished.
I hope you politely apologised and said you had standards XD
@@Snoop_Dugg I had no reason to apologize. 💀
Good on you brother, you dodged a bullet my friend.
@@lcasounds1590 yeah but it would have infuriated her even more when you say it in a nice way. 🤣
@@Snoop_Dugg that’s true. I never got angry. My last words with her before she hung up on me were “Is that all?”.
So if you don't want to be in a relationship with someone who needs to seek validation from strangers you're "insecure", but the one seeking it isn't!? We live in bizarro world
great point
They are, that's why they get so defensive
or... just date someone that shares the same opinion as you. it's really not that hard.
This should just be something you discuss with a person before going into a relationship with them. If I were to have a complete body transformation, like 300 to 180lbs, relationship or not, I’d definitely want to show that off lol
you cant try to make sense of anything ethan says, he will say just about anything just to argue
Ethans followers were telling him his conversation with the kid was a flawless victory. That shows just how much the man lives in his own little world
How is that different from Aba N Preach followers agreeing with everything they say? Both have d riders, like all UA-camrs do
If you watch the whole thing tho the dude does look stupid, not bcz of what he said in the clips Aba n Preach watched and the stance they defended but bcz later the kid is outed as a hypocrit, so yeah on the whole that interview was a victory for Ethan in my opinion.
@Sara Arlavi It was an L for both parties. Aba and Preach were open about the fact the dude sounded like a goober a few times, but its legit Ethan who cant even call him out properly and being retarded that makes this an L for him
@@NotThePoint-r7n: That's fair, if so. A victory, then, but not a flawless one.
@@franklingoodwin no one agrees with every thing they said
I love you guys!! It really gives me hope to see people like you who simply speak from a common sense, reality and respectful point of view. I think common sense - that true feeling in your gut is something that is withering away in society. Its both scary and sad. AnP please keep up the good work and I truly hope you are able to stay sane in this insane world. Thanks for all of the wonderful content. You make me laugh so much. God bless!!
Its crazy how they deliberately misinterpreted everything you said in order to make you seem bad, then accuse you guys for doing that exact same thing. The hypocrisy with Ethan and his slimy, toxic podcast group is off the charts. They have become so toxic that they can't differentiate an idea with a person. So in this case, they can't understand you defending solely the idea of not wanting your GF to look like a hoe, because in their opinion Sebastian is a bad guy. So defending his idea means you defend him as a person in their minds, which even a kid would understand is not true.
I'm still wondering who watches his shitty podcast. This is a guy whos career peak was dunking on shitty prank youtubers, what made him think that he's interesting enough to have a podcast?
his fans act the same way on their FB groups. i do notice that most of their fans are women. the show panders to women
Babble & Reach didn’t watch the whole debate and neither did most of the commenters here crying & defending Sebastian 😅
(((They))) cry in pain as they strike you, their common tactic
@@BLaCkKsHeEp oh no! Got ‘em!
Having a 50/50 fan base is a bad thing?
"They're pandering to their fans who don't like me cause I'm fat"
I used to be a big fan of H3H3, got through some genuine rough times laughing at their comedic videos. Ethan just as a person really sucks now because he's spent all this time deflecting accountability. He's always blamed something else when negativity comes his way, not sure why he thinks him being fat is suddenly an issue unless he himself is insecure. I only hate the fat of his ego.
same here, used to enjoy his vids a lot, guess we just lived long enough to see our heroes become the villains.
The worst thing for me is when he says "that's your problem" if you are uncomfortable with your wife dressing up like a hoe. There is literally no "your problem" in a couple or relationship, it all becomes a common problem that needs to be tackled by both people. A relationship is all about working through your trauma and insecurities, but you are never supposed to do that on your own, the other party is supposed to be accomodating to you and help you to feel comfortable with them...
Unfortunately a very common mentality I've seen lately is people wanting to act like they are single and independent while also being in a relationship. They want the safety and security a relationship provides that they can fall back on but still act like they are single and can do whatever they want. All of the benefits with none of the sacrifice. And then they get mad when they find out the world and relationships don't work like that.
@@coletrain644 man your comment makes me think of Russell and Ciara
@coletrain644 Do you think the same thing can go for friends and family? I think it can, but I’d like to know what you think. Good stuff btw 🔥
How many times in a relationship does the woman criticize what her man is wearing, saying stuff like "Your not wearing that.". That's okay for them to do that, but it's not okay if the man criticizes what the woman is wearing?? How is that right?
@@WildElroy13 i dont think ive ever hear a woman irl criticize a mans clothes. It might just be me tho.
A girl I was on and off with mentioned starting an OF once.
I totally respected her decision to do that if she wanted.
I dipped for good though, cause I'm not dating someone that does OF.
There's nothing controlling about it. She made a decision that she was free to make, and I made a decision that I was free to make.
Its almost hard to fathom this level of delusion. How far Ethan has fallen is honestly quite impressive.
Ethan has always been like this, he just doing it too people alot of people didnt like. He had a easy win with the fair use thing. Once he got that money the real him came out
@@BlackHippy313 No, he just hid it better, had different content. Podcasts were the worst fucking choice for Ethan. (Or maybe not, maybe he's made more money from this. *somehow* )
Ethan's never been good at handling criticism, at all, but at least he got less of it because he made funny content. Because he can be funny, it's his best (probably only redeemable), quality. He's just got a bad personality behind that talented humor.
He fell beyond the seven hells
You can see how it happen though Ethan only kept people around who echo him. Ethen has created a real life echo. Listen to his producers they literally just parrot what he says back to him
Im almost sure he must been through a stroke or something like 6years ago when hes character pretty quickly changed totally😢
It’s disrespectful for a woman to dress provocatively when in a relationship to purposely seek the male gaze. That’s it. It isn’t that complicated.
Exactly
What do you think goes through Hila's mind when she posts pictures of her wearing revealing clothes? Do you think she is aware of what she is doing, or that she confusing empowerment with attention seeking?
@@juansek208 she’s for sure fishing for something better to come along, but nobody wants that 🐴
I still don't see why she can't look attractive. Like of we go to a party and she wants to look pretty, there's nothing wrong with that. What if I feel better about myself because everybody sees I got a hot wife. What if I want to look handsome one day before we go out because I want to feel good about myself?
@JuicySmoolietsSubwaySamm-bv8xr I figure you don’t look put together and you probably don’t look good.
I love the immediate “you’re just insecure.” It’s the new form of name calling in such a passive aggressive way.
Im black and black women use it as a shaming tactic whenever you have boundaries OR when they have boundaries you dont agree with.
@@jimmyboy1582 Let's not forget the classic "who hurt you"
@@thelarry383 Exactly.
@@jimmyboy1582 what does being black have to do with it?
@@goblinman4294 i only deal with black women and Ethan sounds like a black chick. Looks like one too
12:50 Here's the question I would ask: "Would you, Hila, be mad or suspicious if Ethan liked a photo of a girl posing just like you, in the same clothes as you? If the answer is yes, the argument ends there and if the answer is no, let's continue talking and discussing our views and how we differ."
This shit is crazy. I was the most insecure about myself when I was single and would post "thirst traps." Looking for validation from strangers. I am now the MOST confident I have ever been, I'm married and have no social media.
W
Wouldn’t UA-cam be part of social media?
@@ksiftsilverstine891 no
Good for you! Glad you found a new & better perspective within your marriage 😊
How did you get rid of that insecurity and become confident?
As a person whos gone through therapy during a relationship, the first thing they tell you to do is to set boundaries in that relationship, and if they cross them, then they are in the wrong, not you.
100% Its about self respect when you set boundaries for a relationship.
Not everyone will have the same thoughts, feelings or life experiences. To set boundaries is the healthiest way to navigate through life alongside one another on terms you are both comfortable with.
You what’s ironic, in a previous video Ethan said he didn’t even watch your video he was replying to cause it was “upsetting” but he wants everyone to watch his whole video
Ethan is the type of guy that'll sit in a corner and watch his wife get railed by another man and not say a damn thing about it because he wouldn't want to sound insecure lol
He’s a cuck who wants to shake you for not being one. Lol
😂
Cough cough sneako
@@ryanlowe7995 yeah why bro bringing up sneako for 😂😂
Where do this even come from? Lol really shows how slow most you kids are
I love how Ethan pauses your video every 5 seconds so that he can spin a lie before you even complete a sentence. That's the only effort he puts forth into responding
And his producers try to back him up with childish rebuttals its ridiculous
Yup
He did this during gokanaru’s video, it got the point he finished saying the sentence and Ethan goes “wtf is he talking about?” like he couldn’t just rewind to get full context
Same 3 seconds before aba actually started to make his point, they are truly a joke
I personally don't see pausing every 5 seconds as bad, the person could be digesting every sentence,
it's his intentions behind it and how he uses it that's bad, he's already made up his mind and he's using that time to create a "rebuttal" if I could even call it that.
I hate the "you're just insecure" argument. First of all, insecurity is an emotion like any other, there are times where it's justified and times where it's not, its not a universally unacceptable emotion to have.
Secondly, try this approach with literally ANY method in which men attract women and respond the same way and youll see how shallow the "insecurity" response is.
"Babe, I was just buying random girls drink? Why are you trying to control my money? Are you insecure?"
You can use the "insecure" line on literally everything to justify improper behaviours within a relationship.
This should be pinned. Your definition of insecurity is straight facts.
Well said! Insecurity can be used as a tool for self-reflection, awareness, improvement or wielded as a weapon for emotional abuse & control. It has so many roots... abandonment fears, lack of confidence, past trauma, neglect whether it be past or present. It can show up in everything from codependency to narcissism & anxious to avoidant attachment styles & everything in between. Literally everyone has some type of insecurity, but details behind the behavior determine what's healthy or justified & what's not.
The hero we don't deserve
banger post & username makes it even better lol
Bro the two do not relate, dressing how you want vs acting out is completely different. Women can dress however tf they want unless you set boundaries and if yall don't like each others boundaries then you break up anything else is insecurity. Why tf you gonna police your partner lmao?
“Jus like dudes with their pants saggin”. Fuckk i felt violated 😂😂😂😂
A conversation with Ethan is like arguing with a 13 year old on Twitter.
Here's what it boils down too.
If I'm in a relationship with someone, I don't want them dressing like they are looking for another relationship. Not because I'm insecure, but because I have the integrity to say that "We are in a committed relationship and I would prefer that you act like it."
So you think that if a woman dresses sexy that she is looking for another relationship? Tell me how this is not insecurity?
@@xZero9Ox Women don’t “dress that way for themselves”. They know the looks and attention they are going to be getting from random men. It’s just trashy to invite all of that when you’re in a relationship with someone. Not to mention disrespectful.
@@xZero9Ox you are not entitled to a man. Get through your head.
@@Liminal-Lagomorph - So a woman shouldn't dress in a way that makes her feel good because men are horny? Also, can you link me some sources that say that women never dress a certain way for themselves?
@Zero9O It's not even just dressing that way, it's posting thirst trap pictures online too. If the chick is posting revealing pictures online, and going out in public leaving nothing to the imagination to make herself feel better, how is it not her being insecure?
Like the guy said, you can dress attractively while wearing more than a sports bra.
It's insane that Ethan Klein's arch nemesis was Keemstar, fast forward a few years and now he is just as uncharitable and drama-driven as Keemstar.
Lmao so true. 😂
Worse, he has more reach
The major difference is Keem is self-aware enough to know he’s an a**hole and why people don’t like him. He doesn’t take things personally, to a detrimental degree, like Ethan does.
He, simply, plays the game the way he sees fit.
Ethan is self-righteous and easily defensive.
He’s playing the game, though, can’t stand how other players play - because he’s insecure and unhappy.
I mean, look at the juxtaposition between Ethan and Hila.
Hila has been putting so much effort into herself.
Ethan doesn’t out any effort into himself.
A man can still put minimal effort into his look - decent haircut and shave - and it make a world of difference.
Ethan can’t even be bothered to clean up his beard, and not wear a hat to hide his grown-out haircut.
I think Hila is a loyal woman.
Though, I think the more effort she puts in herself, the more she feels confident about herself, and the more attention she gets..
Like I stated, I do think she is loyal, though, I don’t think she is gonna be willing to put up with Ethan’s poor behavior forever.
Ethan looks like more beat down, every damned day.
Which, is really sad - especially for a man with an incredibly successful career and beautiful family.
Ethan has become a vastly poor example of “success.”
“I will dress how i want, no one will tell me”…. This is why most women cant find a good man
“The open minded people are the most close minded” Lot of truth in that sentence.
I love how Ethan in the SAME SENTENCE can complain about someone being allegedly disingenuous *BY BEING DISINGENUOUS*
Dude is sleazy af
WATCH THE ORIGINAL, THIS IS SUCH A DISHONEST VIDEO 🤦♀️🤮
Sebastian seems to believe women should be wearing no less than a BURQA in public unless escorted by their boyfriends. Do yall not have any comprahension of what he is argueing for??? WOMEN ARE NOT A MONOLITH OR YOUR PROPERTY. They dont post pictures of themselves to attract male attention. ALL OF HILAS FOLLOWERS ARE WOMEN. They can post to feel good about themselves too and seek validation from OTHER WOMEN! We all seek validation from our relationships (family, friends, etc) NOT JUST MEN. So seeking validation IS NOT BAD its actually normal. YALL ARE LITTERALLY TAKING THE SIDE OF A MANOSPHERE CHILD 🙄🙄
And that clipped video where Ethan was supposedly avoiding the question was TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT (shocker). He was trying to understand what Sebastian defines/considers innapropriate clothing so they can debate better. UGH you people are gross rage baiters
I'll never understand why people watch Ethan, he's a slimy, bad faith, disingenuous, morally bankrupt piece of shit (the irony in him calling many others that). As a liberal, in the classical sense, he's an embarrassment to true liberalism.
@@felixfungle-bung4688 oof
ethan is surrouneded by hype man to the point no one tell him thats he is stupid
Ethan straight up became the "insecure" person according to what he thinks being insecure is.
For sure. His whole response screamed insecure. Oh no people dont agree with me people might not like the way i or my partner dress
So how does that diminish the fact that Sebastian is insecure in his relationship? If your answer as to why you don’t like how someone dresses, “I don’t like it because SHE’S MINE”, explain to me how that’s not indicative of likely unjustified insecurity.
@@SB-se7vb Take a step back. It doesn't even have to be about a significant other. If you have a good friend who knows you really dislike certain things - whatever they may be, they will probably avoid those things in your presence just out of respect for you and your relationship. If they don't respect you enough to avoid those things and you choose not to spend time with them does that make you insecure?
They are "your" friend, which you could pretend was all about ownership and control or you could be reasonable and say it's about mutual respect and interests and, dare I say, compromise. It doesn't automatically have anything to do with insecurity. It may, but it may not. We need to be careful about assigning motivation to other people. It could be that a friend or family member was dressed a certain way and was assaulted, which would make it more about safety. That's probably not the case, but we don't know why Sebastian has that preference.
@@SB-se7vb No one in this comment thread said anything about it diminishing Sebastions "likely unjustified insecurity." But by Ethan's own definition of insecure, he himself is insecure.
@@SB-se7vb No one cares, Ethan.
The problem with the world, is people have their own definition of what things mean.....
"I don't want my girlfriend to have sex with other men, and if she does that's fine but I'm gonna remove myself from her life" imagine trying to control a woman like that??? CONTROLLING 😤
Imagine telling your girlfriend she can't bring other men into your bedroom.
The god damn controlling Patriarchy trying to oppresse women again.
I cant even. 😤
Huh?
LMAOOO That's exactly what Ethan will be saying real soon. He's gonna be Destiny 2.0 real fast.
Victim mentality haha
@@MostlyCloudy These liberals with open relationships are so embarrassing. Bending over backwards while watching their wife also bend over backwards while getting dicked down is peak liberal philosophy.
Ethan is spiraling. This is what happens when you surround yourself with people with the same ideas you have. They just echo it back at you vs actually challenging what your takes are.
What do you think the Ava & preach doing?
Just goes to show you how it's perfectly acceptable to gaslight and undermine men if they're unhappy with anything in a relationship. Imagine a female influencer getting upset because her dude watches onlyfans, and he responds by telling her "you're just insecure, babe. That's your problem"... that dude would be publicly crucified online to no end without mercy.
This right here.
Not sure if crucified but he would get shit for sure.
@@gr33dl0cknein3 Do you always take words literally like that
And rightfully so. Sad that the same doesn't apply to women as much, just because they're women.
We saw something similar. There was that streamer who accidentally showed that he was checking out that deep fake porn of his "streamer friends". Dude was crucified, crying on air, everyone was so upset, and that wasn't even real porn.
Watching a reaction to a reaction to a reaction to a video is crazy. Ngl, funny as hell they always come with receipts
Ethan is the PERFECT example of a manchild that's been spoiled into his personality today. His parents didn't so a good job sadly.
This man only derives Joy by putting down others, but when it comes to him, then suddenly he is such a victim and he didn't do anything wrooong, whereas people that he demonizes have done much less at the same time.
His parents were hippies from the 60's-70's.
@@youtubesucks3882 that explain alot
Him and his wife broke up she’s getting a divorce
@@SoldierSpiderx it honestly does explain a lot if his parents were like that.
Its almost like a guy like him makes a habit of crying out in pain as he strikes you.
I’m glad you guys made a rebuttal. But At some point we just have to accept that it’s special needs and move on 😩
honestly these people are sick i don’t even comment anymore 😂😂
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As a disabled person, I agree.
Lol
You guys aren't promoting yourself, you're discussing topics and giving your thoughts, opinions and views on it. Been doing it for years, I don't see you guys doing this for any validation. You're both just straight up dudes being honest with themselves and just talking. Been a long time listener and I have mad respect for you guys
That’s weird bc the dislikes on the debate video from 5 days ago suddenly tripled after this vid was made. These guys and their following probs had noooothing to do with it
@@LudwigHorsecock Well. There are plenty of people that also disagree with Ethan outside of these two. Me myself, I really don't care about ethan but I can see why his videos suddenly spiked in dislikes. Don't worry about your boy, like his other dramas it will fade away in time or get overshadowed by another drama until he inevitably/mistakenly starts another one.
100% completely agree, no further comment.
@@LudwigHorsecockI have not liked Ethan point blank period. Something isn’t right about him. But the way he responds to people is childish to me.
Hila: Dresses provocatively for validation= insecure.
Ethan: Enforces her insecurity.
Man: I don't want my girl wearing barely any clothes outside.
Ethan: You are insecure.
Man: But you validate that.
Hila: I will wear what i want where i want.
Restaurant: I'm sorry madam you can't wear that to our restaurant.