There is another recent video on UA-cam that tests when 3 out of 4 weels are without traction for different Asian SUVs (Honda, Subary, Rav4, Hudson & Cx-5) and the Mazda wins that too... I have the 2016 year version with winter tyres, last week in the heavy snow Apls roads and I was one of the few climbing with no problems. From the 2019 version they improved even more the AWS system
I’ve just had mine out in deep snow for first time. Great fun and never missed a beat even in steep hills. Best car I’ve EVER had ... by a country mile (and I’ve had plenty).
Easy trick here. The Subaru is a full time AWD and the wheel turn is designed to disadvantage the Subaru. Ever try turning a tight, slow corner in a 4x4 truck? It hops and skips as the inside tires are forced to turn slower than the outside. Subaru remedies this by allowing additional slip when the wheels are turned to one direction at low speed. The mazda on the other hand, uses predictive measures to engage the part-time AWD, one of which being wheel turn. In short, this test was designed to specifically exploit the Subaru. Try it with the wheels straight and i bet you get a different result. Who cranks the wheels at the top of a hill they intend of going over anyways??
I have both CX5 and Forester currently. And there is no way my forester would perform so badly that only the front wheel spin. They must shut off the AWD to make it look worse. Stupid “test” here
The Subaru has full-time AWD, so there is nothing to "turn off". The Honda's Real Time 4WD is a reactive system that only sends power to the rear wheels once the front wheels start spinning. The difference here is Mazda's i-Activ system is predictive, it's probably applying brakes & reducing engine power to prevent wheel spin & allow the tires to grip the road better.
Now the Mazda CX-5 has an available exhaust driven air crammer under the hood that gives it 310 ft lbs. of low end torque. Kudos to Mazda for adding a turbo to an already amazing vehicle 👌
We were looking to replace our tired '06 Chev HHR...I replaced half this car in the last three years so it was time. That was two weeks ago. When it comes to our four picks for a used suv the criteria; space for two 150 lb adults, two 75 lb dogs our bags and golf kit. No problem in the HHR. Fair price, enough power to drag us around, AWD and great fuel economy. We test drove the Forester after a Tucsun and a Santa Fe. The Forester's visibility was great...but I'd hate to pay for a wagon made of glass. It didn't shift smooth but lurched into lower gears. In corners it dipped too much like a truck but it's a light wagon so it seemed "floaty". The ride on rough roads was smooth though...one of the smoothest. In the end we purchased the 2015 CX-5 CS, AWD...it drove like a sports car, it was the most comfortable and we didn't loose much space for cargo. What the CX-5 lost in length because of the curved trunk it gained in width. My wife can place her golf clubs sideways and go...so she's happy. It has top notch reliability so again she's happy. It reviewed tops for everyday use, ergonomics and comfort too...so I'm happy. It has surprising power for a 2.5L 4 cylinder bar engine stuck in an suv because Mazda squeezed all the performance out where others left it. Well it's hinting on winter here in PEI, Canada and I'm looking forward to having such a great suv for our trips to Cape Breton four hours away. Thanks for all the great reviews, it helped us buy with confidence!
Was nice to see a camera of the dash from each of them at the moment of climbing. Some Subaru's if not all, they have a fuse that disables the awd, making them awd....
Strange video because while I know the CX-5 is a very capable snow car, my friend has one. I also know the Cr-v and Forester are too, owned them both and they are great in snow and ice, especially the Forester. Not sure why this one wouldn't move up there but I can assure you it should have. Forester we owned could push through snow a foot deep up that hill with ease. Then again my experience is with manuals and I've never driven any of these with automatic.
Not hate but drive through an intersection in Colorado... See how many Subaru you can count. It's the unofficial State vehicle of CO. At your popular trailhead, number of Mazda vs outback...
As soon as the Forester started to finally climb, the driver let off the gas. The driver knowingly made it look bad on purpose. If you give it enough gas and stay on it, the system will sort things out and it will climb. The CX-5 system does shine in this scenario though and I do like both cars. I wonder if the system also works at higher speeds as well or is it more like the RAV4.
jesperbbb no mate, It's AWD unless you put in the FWD fuse lol. They have that feature so you can disengage AWD to make it home with an odd size spare without destroying the AWD system. I'm saying it looks like they have sabotaged the test by putting in the FWD fuse to make the superior Subaru AWD system look bad
Subaru's (automatic ones) have a main fuse in the engine bay (typically) you can pull to throw the car in FWD only mode as it disables the center diff. We own several several Subarus (one of each Outback, Forester, Impreza, Legacy) in my family and I personally own a 16 CX5. There's NO WAY a Subaru wouldn't atleast attempt to spin the rear wheels unless a defeat was in place or parking break was pulled. Both the Subaru and CX5 have very nice AWD systems. CX5 is electronic, which is why you see the turn the wheel move. It takes in temp, wheel angle, speed, wipers etc to control the AWD system. So cranked wheels is likely full AWD power. Subaru on the other hand typically has a viscus center diff which takes a bit of RPM's to build pressure to turn parts. Shouldn't have been that much though. Want proof, look at the fast lane car test. Its the same hill and you can easily see the Subaru spinning all wheels and making it up. In that video they talk up CX5 awd reaction time being better due to it being electronically engaged not mechanically.
yes, same tires (blizzaks), TCS on, etc. if you look up Mazda ice academy, they invited a ton of independent national journalists out to see the whole thing.
Just sold my Subaru and I'm getting a cx5 awd. There is seriously something wrong with this test though, Subaru has a way better AWD system than Mazda. Pretty sure they were cheating here.
Here’s the thing, the haldex awd systems are more dynamic and can move more power quicker to different tires but the Mazda being a simpler system basically just means the awd will heavily bias immediately and it’s done by electromagnet so it isn’t taking a million sensor readings so there’s less lag even though it’s a more primitive system, so what makes subbies grip and rip when you’re already moving actually is a bit laggier than a more primitive system when the slip input comes right away from a dead stop. I’d guess once you’re under way the subbie awd is better, but the more simple Mazda system kind of goes nuclear immediately and biases for a more even wheel power distribution straight out the gate
@@theawesomer that is bullshit and you know that. I can perform this test with two A/T outbacks and MT Impreza and there is no way to not spin rear wheels.
Note: The Mazda is compared to two CVT transmission cars which are notoriously terrible with AWD in the snow (Subaru is not as good as it used to be because of it). The Mazda has a 6 speed automatic. They don't compare this to the Toyota Rav 4 because with its 8 speed it would do as well as the Mazda, and what is the point of showing that? I still own a Subaru with a 5 speed automatic and it is great at this test, but it is among the last of its kind.
@@jasonhitchcock4079 If you buy a used one. Starting in 2024, all Subarus will have CVTs except for the sports cars which will still offer a manual (BRZ, WRX). Otherwise, you are getting the CVT guaranteed.
It's purposely did it that way to down grad the Forester. This is an advertisement for Mazda. And by the way I'm the fan for both Mazda and Subaru at the same time, so no hard feeling.
The reason why all the three SUV turn their wheel to the right before trying to climb because after the vehicle got up to the top of the slope, the road ahead banks to the right and heads down. So turning the front wheels to the right was to get prepared for the turn ahead and prevent the SUV from going off the road. There are no tricks being used by all 3 drivers.
@@MrRichieCZ The Subaru has full-time AWD, so there is nothing to "turn off". The Honda's Real Time 4WD is a reactive system that only sends power to the rear wheels once the front wheels start spinning. The difference here is Mazda's i-Activ system is predictive, it's probably applying brakes & reducing engine power to prevent wheel spin & allow the tires to grip the road better.
5 years later, and all of this campaign from Mazda didn't work, cause with the tons of videos and tests around the world, it clearly shows they made a good AWD for roads only. But make the car climb a hill lifting two wheels, not even with the wipers on the AWD knows what to do. They recently found out (4 years later) that their system it was not up to the expectations and added the off road mode. Thank you Mazda
I've had a 2014 and 2016 and the stock Toyo AS tires they put on these are terrible in the snow. In fact, aside from the extra ground clearance and slightly better AWD traction, our two wheel drive car with Pirelli P7 Centurato AS tires is better to drive in the snow. In fact the Toyo's are quite scary for turning on snow. The other night I took our car out right after driving the Mazda and it was almost comical how much better traction I had around a snow covered traffic circle in our car. With snow tires it looks like the vehicle is a mountain goat, but with the stock tires it is significantly inhibited and other than doing 4 wheel drifts which are fun, it significantly limits the all season traction more so than any other vehicle we have owned with the factory AS tires. I know Mazda wants this to be the sports cars of SUV's on the Los Angeles Crest Highway, but most people buying AWD versions are in areas of the country that have cold winters and snow. Therefore, they should outfit AWD versions with good true all season tires. Not barely passable A/S tires so that people who go on the Los Angeles Crest Highway can rave about how well their SUV handles -- which BTW, my wife could care less about as well as myself as we have another vehicle that is appropriate for an 80 degree two lane mountain road.
No mention is made of who retained the drivers. Nothing is said about the differences in the equipment put to work in this particular trial in each car. The exact criteria/rules to be observed by the drivers in operating their cars are not discussed. For an experiment to be considered truly scientific and unbiased, one has to be open about the materials and methods used. This does not seem to be the case here. In my opinion, this trial cannot be included in a data base aiming at documenting the differences in performance between the cars shown here. But this trial does allow insights into how such trials should be organized in the future.
@@Montana270 But they don't tell you is the fuse is entered into the subaru in order to disable the AWD system. They do this so that it can run as a FWD with better fuel economy... Mazda won't tell you that will they.. :)
Do you see this, people from Subaru? This is direct answer on your, so called, independent tests of 4WD systems. And it's obvious here that anybody can make nice commercials...
Obviously a lot of Subaru owners here got butt hurt thinking that their AWD system is the most superior out of all other AWD systems in the market! I think this was in part intended to show the diff in how Mazda's AWD system functions compared to Subaru and Honda...Mazda has theirs as predictive while others like Hondas have a slip and grip type of AWD system. May appear biased as Mazda did this video but so as other manufacturers when they showcase their AWD systems they always appear that theirs are more superior than the competition!
@@MrRichieCZ The Subaru has full-time AWD, so there is nothing to "turn off". The Honda's Real Time 4WD is a reactive system that only sends power to the rear wheels once the front wheels start spinning. The difference here is Mazda's i-Activ system is predictive, it's probably applying brakes & reducing engine power to prevent wheel spin & allow the tires to grip the road better.
This MAZDA sponsored test proves that the CX-5 is better on a hill with the wheels turned to the right when trying to accelerate under slippery conditions. At all other times, the SUBARU will prevail..........,
Some people on here are so gullable LOL. I don't even own a Subaru or Mazda, but rather an Nissan Murano, however, it's clear that this is staged, because to be perfectly honest, nothing in the awd suv's beats a Subaru when it comes to all wheel drive. There system hasn't been beaten yet by ANY other crossover SUV brand. I love my Murano to death, and I have never gotten stuck with it. By if push came to shove against a Subaru in a climb test (with the same winter tires) I'm pretty sure I'd lose. With that said, I'm very happy with the way my Murano handles the snow in winter...I just don't go looking for trouble in the mountains.
Firstly I don't quite understand the Mazda vs Subaru AWD hate. It seems to be a bit strange when you see Forester somehow stuck (IMO they just found a way how to trick Subaru AWD). Anyway, most journalists criticise Mazda's AWD for not working well in situations like the diagonal test, however I personally found the systems to be working MUCH better with the wheels turned, especially in the aforementioned diagonal test. So to prevent biased tests and opinions, it would be nice to see all AWD systems working in a wide range of conditions, not just an isolated test.
Subaru has a fuse that can be entered in order to disable the AWD system. Making it a FWD car for better fuel economy. Mazda knows this and possibly took advantage of it in order to make them look superior.
I have no dog in the race. I am inclined to like the mazda best because it is the most visually appealing. But without knowing what tires are used, what traction control modes are turned off or on, this test is useless. Additionally, the vehicles start at different point on the slope. Both the Forester and crv stop with the left rear tire in a rut... This means they require more power to escape because of the added resistance caused by the depression. The cx-5 rolls right over this rut.... Even if the mazda had started in the rut, this still would be an insufficient test because of the aforementioned tire and traction control issues.
Audi has the most advanced AWD system. "QUATTRO," therefore it shares it's tehcnogoly with MAZDA. Quattro gains more traction on wet roads. You can full throttle any audi quattro with no road skid in heavy rain.
Laughable. The ONLY reason the mazda did well is that the front wheels were turned to the right. Do so helps offset the unequal length of the front drive shafts. Had all the cars had the front wheels straight, the SUBARU would have done better and the mazda, worse.........
So why then did they not do the same simulations with the tires straight ahead and then turned to the left???? Why, because the mazda would not have even made it up the hill...........
Amerigo Vespucci I don't see why a left turn off the hill would yield different results than a right turn. Like i said this demonstration is supposed to simulate someone pulling out of their driveway and onto the road, i watched a similar video where that was stated. That's probably why no straight driving was done, but i bet it would make it if they tried. Edit: Watch the video "snow test mazda CX-5 AWD" by MrBlacklemon4. Not the best perspective(1st person) but at the 230 time mark he stops on a decent hill and goes right up it.
Everything skids on snow because snow is slippery (d’uh !). It’s just a case of whose systems deal with that slipperiness best. I’ve not got a lot of experience of 4WD / AWD but I can tell you that my CX-5 deals with everything I need it to. I accept it won’t be as good off road or in snow as a Range Rover or a Jeep but it’s nowhere near the price of either and it’s perfectly adequate.
@@atomiccomet3176 Because Mazda put in the fuse to disable the AWD system. Subaru does that for better fuel economy. Mazda knows this and now so do you... :)
+jesperbbb ... the same thing man. It proves only that Mazda engage AWD when wheels are turned. Subaru doesn't do it to make a more comfortable ride and not kill components in the AWD unnecessary. It doesn't mean Subaru goes FWD or it can't be AWD in that situation, just give more gas and will be cool as Mazda. By the way, did you watch this video, but from TFL channel?? Looks more real than this, and actually Honda works as good as Honda. So to say they have the best system just showing ONE situation where is better and quicker than Subaru, doesn't mean is better. Real life, real drive will show it.
After owning my Mazda cx 5 for about a year I’m in love with it in the snow
All season or winter tires ?
I have CX9 Signature and driving it in Calgary Canada and can say that nothing better than Mazda I-active system, we got a lot of snow over here
There is another recent video on UA-cam that tests when 3 out of 4 weels are without traction for different Asian SUVs (Honda, Subary, Rav4, Hudson & Cx-5) and the Mazda wins that too...
I have the 2016 year version with winter tyres, last week in the heavy snow Apls roads and I was one of the few climbing with no problems.
From the 2019 version they improved even more the AWS system
A BIG fan of CX-5. We have two! My fiancé traded in her Lexus for the CX-5!
I see alot of them on the road
Mazda CX5 runs circles around these buckets on any surface ... this is one epic drivers car when you push it.
I am pushing it every day ... :)
+Vesselin Kroumoff I've had mine for over a year now and love it. So much fun to drive
+Vesselin Kroumoff да, и аз
I’ve just had mine out in deep snow for first time. Great fun and never missed a beat even in steep hills. Best car I’ve EVER had ... by a country mile (and I’ve had plenty).
Easy trick here. The Subaru is a full time AWD and the wheel turn is designed to disadvantage the Subaru. Ever try turning a tight, slow corner in a 4x4 truck? It hops and skips as the inside tires are forced to turn slower than the outside. Subaru remedies this by allowing additional slip when the wheels are turned to one direction at low speed. The mazda on the other hand, uses predictive measures to engage the part-time AWD, one of which being wheel turn. In short, this test was designed to specifically exploit the Subaru. Try it with the wheels straight and i bet you get a different result. Who cranks the wheels at the top of a hill they intend of going over anyways??
Clay Grenier you never had to make a turn at the top of a hill?? Duh...
Another thing, if you manually hold a lower gear it put's it into 50/50 split. At least my 2010 did.
I have both CX5 and Forester currently. And there is no way my forester would perform so badly that only the front wheel spin. They must shut off the AWD to make it look worse. Stupid “test” here
Same thing they did with CR-V
The Subaru has full-time AWD, so there is nothing to "turn off". The Honda's Real Time 4WD is a reactive system that only sends power to the rear wheels once the front wheels start spinning. The difference here is Mazda's i-Activ system is predictive, it's probably applying brakes & reducing engine power to prevent wheel spin & allow the tires to grip the road better.
@@Tleilaxu_Mentat I can switch off AWD on subaru in 1 minute. Don't tell me that it has nothing to be switched off.
@@almatbainazarov2186 You can, sure, but where's your proof it was done for this video.
@@Tleilaxu_Mentat it only predicts when it will need awd. Subaru always has it on and should win every scenario. video is bs
whay they didnt use the forester with xmode ????
Now the Mazda CX-5 has an available exhaust driven air crammer under the hood that gives it 310 ft lbs. of low end torque. Kudos to Mazda for adding a turbo to an already amazing vehicle 👌
“Exhaust driven air Crammer” 😂
Je possède ce vehicule
c'est vraiment un bon vehicule👍👍👍👍👍
Je le recommande
Mazda CX5 💪🏽
We were looking to replace our tired '06 Chev HHR...I replaced half this car in the last three years so it
was time. That was two weeks ago. When it comes to our four picks for a used suv the criteria; space
for two 150 lb adults, two 75 lb dogs our bags and golf kit. No problem in the HHR. Fair price, enough
power to drag us around, AWD and great fuel economy. We test drove the Forester after a Tucsun and
a Santa Fe. The Forester's visibility was great...but I'd hate to pay for a wagon made of glass. It didn't
shift smooth but lurched into lower gears. In corners it dipped too much like a truck but it's a light
wagon so it seemed "floaty". The ride on rough roads was smooth though...one of the smoothest. In
the end we purchased the 2015 CX-5 CS, AWD...it drove like a sports car, it was the most comfortable
and we didn't loose much space for cargo. What the CX-5 lost in length because of the curved trunk it
gained in width. My wife can place her golf clubs sideways and go...so she's happy. It has top notch
reliability so again she's happy. It reviewed tops for everyday use, ergonomics and comfort too...so I'm happy. It has surprising power for a 2.5L 4 cylinder bar engine stuck in an suv because Mazda
squeezed all the performance out where others left it. Well it's hinting on winter here in PEI, Canada
and I'm looking forward to having such a great suv for our trips to Cape Breton four hours away.
Thanks for all the great reviews, it helped us buy with confidence!
Same tires on all vehicles? All in the best driving mode for snow? The tires alone can make a huge difference.
Good point!
X Mode on?
Mazda is Amazing!
I don't know if CX-5 can do this but i know for sure that Forester with X-mode can, SH model can also .
Yea yeaa
Was nice to see a camera of the dash from each of them at the moment of climbing. Some Subaru's if not all, they have a fuse that disables the awd, making them awd....
Strange video because while I know the CX-5 is a very capable snow car, my friend has one. I also know the Cr-v and Forester are too, owned them both and they are great in snow and ice, especially the Forester. Not sure why this one wouldn't move up there but I can assure you it should have. Forester we owned could push through snow a foot deep up that hill with ease. Then again my experience is with manuals and I've never driven any of these with automatic.
Here comes the Subaru Fanboys hate comments. LOL
Not hate but drive through an intersection in Colorado... See how many Subaru you can count. It's the unofficial State vehicle of CO. At your popular trailhead, number of Mazda vs outback...
Colorado guy here driving a 2017 CX-5 in a sea of Subies. And yeah it rules them all.
Subaru is a crap this video is simply proof
As soon as the Forester started to finally climb, the driver let off the gas. The driver knowingly made it look bad on purpose. If you give it enough gas and stay on it, the system will sort things out and it will climb. The CX-5 system does shine in this scenario though and I do like both cars. I wonder if the system also works at higher speeds as well or is it more like the RAV4.
Try removing the FWD fuse from the Subaru so it's AWD for a fair test lol
+Offroad Foz So to use the AWD you need to remove a fuse on Subaru? Thats not AWD!
+Offroad Foz Its not AWD if you have to remove a fuse for it to work!!!!
jesperbbb
no mate, It's AWD unless you put in the FWD fuse lol. They have that feature so you can disengage AWD to make it home with an odd size spare without destroying the AWD system.
I'm saying it looks like they have sabotaged the test by putting in the FWD fuse to make the superior Subaru AWD system look bad
+Offroad Foz No need for fuse - just pull the parking brake
Subaru's (automatic ones) have a main fuse in the engine bay (typically) you can pull to throw the car in FWD only mode as it disables the center diff. We own several several Subarus (one of each Outback, Forester, Impreza, Legacy) in my family and I personally own a 16 CX5. There's NO WAY a Subaru wouldn't atleast attempt to spin the rear wheels unless a defeat was in place or parking break was pulled. Both the Subaru and CX5 have very nice AWD systems. CX5 is electronic, which is why you see the turn the wheel move. It takes in temp, wheel angle, speed, wipers etc to control the AWD system. So cranked wheels is likely full AWD power. Subaru on the other hand typically has a viscus center diff which takes a bit of RPM's to build pressure to turn parts. Shouldn't have been that much though. Want proof, look at the fast lane car test. Its the same hill and you can easily see the Subaru spinning all wheels and making it up. In that video they talk up CX5 awd reaction time being better due to it being electronically engaged not mechanically.
which engine and transmission are used for all?
X mode on? Same tire, trac on or off on each vehicle? Same amount of throttle. Who made this video? Mazda?
yes, same tires (blizzaks), TCS on, etc. if you look up Mazda ice academy, they invited a ton of independent national journalists out to see the whole thing.
or with a fwd fuse installed in the forester that only makes the front traction work
Just sold my Subaru and I'm getting a cx5 awd. There is seriously something wrong with this test though, Subaru has a way better AWD system than Mazda. Pretty sure they were cheating here.
Here’s the thing, the haldex awd systems are more dynamic and can move more power quicker to different tires but the Mazda being a simpler system basically just means the awd will heavily bias immediately and it’s done by electromagnet so it isn’t taking a million sensor readings so there’s less lag even though it’s a more primitive system, so what makes subbies grip and rip when you’re already moving actually is a bit laggier than a more primitive system when the slip input comes right away from a dead stop. I’d guess once you’re under way the subbie awd is better, but the more simple Mazda system kind of goes nuclear immediately and biases for a more even wheel power distribution straight out the gate
Was the awd even switched on in the other vehicles?
Yes, it was.
AWD can't be "switched off" in any of these vehicles.
@@Jason-ri4fp False. Subaru has a fuse that can be installed to disable the AWD in order to make it a FWD vehicle for better gas mileage....
@@theawesomer that is bullshit and you know that. I can perform this test with two A/T outbacks and MT Impreza and there is no way to not spin rear wheels.
@@deermont2 Then you have to prove that assertion. Just because you say it's possible isn't proof it was done here.
Note: The Mazda is compared to two CVT transmission cars which are notoriously terrible with AWD in the snow (Subaru is not as good as it used to be because of it). The Mazda has a 6 speed automatic. They don't compare this to the Toyota Rav 4 because with its 8 speed it would do as well as the Mazda, and what is the point of showing that? I still own a Subaru with a 5 speed automatic and it is great at this test, but it is among the last of its kind.
At least Subaru is still a great choice for those who prefer manual transmissions.
@@jasonhitchcock4079 If you buy a used one. Starting in 2024, all Subarus will have CVTs except for the sports cars which will still offer a manual (BRZ, WRX). Otherwise, you are getting the CVT guaranteed.
It's purposely did it that way to down grad the Forester. This is an advertisement for Mazda. And by the way I'm the fan for both Mazda and Subaru at the same time, so no hard feeling.
The reason why all the three SUV turn their wheel to the right before trying to climb because after the vehicle got up to the top of the slope, the road ahead banks to the right and heads down. So turning the front wheels to the right was to get prepared for the turn ahead and prevent the SUV from going off the road. There are no tricks being used by all 3 drivers.
This is bullshit, there is AWD disabled on second and third car.
@@MrRichieCZ The Subaru has full-time AWD, so there is nothing to "turn off". The Honda's Real Time 4WD is a reactive system that only sends power to the rear wheels once the front wheels start spinning. The difference here is Mazda's i-Activ system is predictive, it's probably applying brakes & reducing engine power to prevent wheel spin & allow the tires to grip the road better.
@@MrRichieCZ I don't think you can turn off awd in CRV or Forester.
何故？？フォレスターの後輪が動かないんだ？？？スバリストの方々ご意見求む！
自分も同じ事思いました。CX乗りですが、雪道ではスバルが一番強いと思ってるので可笑しいですね…
Ｘモードにしていなくても進むはずなのに。後思ったのはCX以外の2台はトラクションコントロールをOFFにしてある感じでした。これは最悪評価ですね…
日本車で日本人じゃない人がやっているのはムカつく！
ですよねぇ。スバルの公式サイト見てFFの設定があるのか確認しましたよ。意図的に何か行っているかな？フォレスター乗りの方！ご一報求見ます。ハンドブレーキだけで後輪ロックできるのかなぁ？？
ウチの古いジムニーだとたしかにこうなるね、深雪の駐車場で停止からハンドル切って右旋回しようとしたら、左右の回転差で左前が動かず、前後の回転差で後輪が動かず右前だけ空転して動けないっていう・・・
けど今はLSDやらデフロックやら当たり前だよね？
HamujiOdaU
返答に感謝します。マツダから貰った冊子に書いてありました。平常の舗装路で同じように発進させると前後輪の回転差が出て変速機を痛めてしまうため、他車では後輪への伝達トルクを落としてある。と、それを可能にしたのがマツダのi-active-AWDなんだって。なるほど！すごいね。
ハンドルを多目に切ったらタイトコーナーブレーキング現象を回避させるため、デフがフリーになるシステムですね。 直進状態に戻すと駆動するはずです。
5 years later, and all of this campaign from Mazda didn't work, cause with the tons of videos and tests around the world, it clearly shows they made a good AWD for roads only. But make the car climb a hill lifting two wheels, not even with the wipers on the AWD knows what to do.
They recently found out (4 years later) that their system it was not up to the expectations and added the off road mode.
Thank you Mazda
you need above 3000 rpm when the tires are at an angle
test by Mazda ice academy?
Clearly did not turn off traction control in the Subaru and Honda. This is not a good demo.
I've had a 2014 and 2016 and the stock Toyo AS tires they put on these are terrible in the snow. In fact, aside from the extra ground clearance and slightly better AWD traction, our two wheel drive car with Pirelli P7 Centurato AS tires is better to drive in the snow. In fact the Toyo's are quite scary for turning on snow. The other night I took our car out right after driving the Mazda and it was almost comical how much better traction I had around a snow covered traffic circle in our car. With snow tires it looks like the vehicle is a mountain goat, but with the stock tires it is significantly inhibited and other than doing 4 wheel drifts which are fun, it significantly limits the all season traction more so than any other vehicle we have owned with the factory AS tires. I know Mazda wants this to be the sports cars of SUV's on the Los Angeles Crest Highway, but most people buying AWD versions are in areas of the country that have cold winters and snow. Therefore, they should outfit AWD versions with good true all season tires. Not barely passable A/S tires so that people who go on the Los Angeles Crest Highway can rave about how well their SUV handles -- which BTW, my wife could care less about as well as myself as we have another vehicle that is appropriate for an 80 degree two lane mountain road.
Мне кажется что в subaru и honda отключили полный привод
No mention is made of who retained the drivers. Nothing is said about the differences in the equipment put to work in this particular trial in each car. The exact criteria/rules to be observed by the drivers in operating their cars are not discussed. For an experiment to be considered truly scientific and unbiased, one has to be open about the materials and methods used. This does not seem to be the case here. In my opinion, this trial cannot be included in a data base aiming at documenting the differences in performance between the cars shown here. But this trial does allow insights into how such trials should be organized in the future.
I see that test with mazda only if you stop and turn the wheels Mazda is beater. 1 position thats it . Good job Mazda
0:28 not awd
It says awd right on the back😂😂😂
@@Montana270 But they don't tell you is the fuse is entered into the subaru in order to disable the AWD system. They do this so that it can run as a FWD with better fuel economy... Mazda won't tell you that will they.. :)
@@deermont2 You really think they would lie that bad? Oh well maybe they did... :)
Do you see this, people from Subaru? This is direct answer on your, so called, independent tests of 4WD systems. And it's obvious here that anybody can make nice commercials...
Obviously a lot of Subaru owners here got butt hurt thinking that their AWD system is the most superior out of all other AWD systems in the market! I think this was in part intended to show the diff in how Mazda's AWD system functions compared to Subaru and Honda...Mazda has theirs as predictive while others like Hondas have a slip and grip type of AWD system. May appear biased as Mazda did this video but so as other manufacturers when they showcase their AWD systems they always appear that theirs are more superior than the competition!
Bullshit again, there is visibly turned awd off on both second and third car.
@@MrRichieCZ The Subaru has full-time AWD, so there is nothing to "turn off". The Honda's Real Time 4WD is a reactive system that only sends power to the rear wheels once the front wheels start spinning. The difference here is Mazda's i-Activ system is predictive, it's probably applying brakes & reducing engine power to prevent wheel spin & allow the tires to grip the road better.
@@Tleilaxu_Mentat low IQ subaru owners can't get it
@@Tleilaxu_Mentat SUbaru has a fuse to make it FWD, it could've been turned off
@@ionutolteanu5541 "Could have" is not proof.
This MAZDA sponsored test proves that the CX-5 is better on a hill with the wheels turned to the right
when trying to accelerate under slippery conditions. At all other times, the SUBARU will prevail..........,
ＶＤＣ入ってたらこんな挙動にはならんハズだが，どうなってんの？
Great mazda
Some people on here are so gullable LOL. I don't even own a Subaru or Mazda, but rather an Nissan Murano, however, it's clear that this is staged, because to be perfectly honest, nothing in the awd suv's beats a Subaru when it comes to all wheel drive. There system hasn't been beaten yet by ANY other crossover SUV brand. I love my Murano to death, and I have never gotten stuck with it. By if push came to shove against a Subaru in a climb test (with the same winter tires) I'm pretty sure I'd lose. With that said, I'm very happy with the way my Murano handles the snow in winter...I just don't go looking for trouble in the mountains.
Subaru is So Much Better here in Chile a country full of Mountains, Mazda is a City Car
I love Mazdas but come on Subaru test seemed so sketchy no way subaru would not complete that challenge
Firstly I don't quite understand the Mazda vs Subaru AWD hate.
It seems to be a bit strange when you see Forester somehow stuck (IMO they just found a way how to trick Subaru AWD). Anyway, most journalists criticise Mazda's AWD for not working well in situations like the diagonal test, however I personally found the systems to be working MUCH better with the wheels turned, especially in the aforementioned diagonal test. So to prevent biased tests and opinions, it would be nice to see all AWD systems working in a wide range of conditions, not just an isolated test.
Subaru has a fuse that can be entered in order to disable the AWD system. Making it a FWD car for better fuel economy. Mazda knows this and possibly took advantage of it in order to make them look superior.
I have no dog in the race. I am inclined to like the mazda best because it is the most visually appealing. But without knowing what tires are used, what traction control modes are turned off or on, this test is useless. Additionally, the vehicles start at different point on the slope. Both the Forester and crv stop with the left rear tire in a rut... This means they require more power to escape because of the added resistance caused by the depression. The cx-5 rolls right over this rut.... Even if the mazda had started in the rut, this still would be an insufficient test because of the aforementioned tire and traction control issues.
Audi has the most advanced AWD system. "QUATTRO," therefore it shares it's tehcnogoly with MAZDA. Quattro gains more traction on wet roads. You can full throttle any audi quattro with no road skid in heavy rain.
Was ist des für a Betrug einen Allrad mit 2 fwd zu vergleichen.
Laughable. The ONLY reason the mazda did well is that the front wheels were turned
to the right. Do so helps offset the unequal length of the front drive shafts. Had all
the cars had the front wheels straight, the SUBARU would have done better and the
mazda, worse.........
Amerigo Vespucci All the tires were turned to the right. They do it to simulate pulling out of a steep snow filled driveway onto the road.
So why then did they not do the same simulations with the tires straight
ahead and then turned to the left???? Why, because the mazda would
not have even made it up the hill...........
Amerigo Vespucci I don't see why a left turn off the hill would yield different results than a right turn. Like i said this demonstration is supposed to simulate someone pulling out of their driveway and onto the road, i watched a similar video where that was stated. That's probably why no straight driving was done, but i bet it would make it if they tried.
Edit: Watch the video "snow test mazda CX-5 AWD" by MrBlacklemon4. Not the best perspective(1st person) but at the 230 time mark he stops on a decent hill and goes right up it.
仕組まれた動画や！雪道ではスバルが一番強いのに日本では！
CXのみトラクションコントロールきかせて他に2台はトラクションコントロールをOFFですか…
日本を馬鹿にしてる！日本車ばかりで他の国の車を使わず！
そんなにCXを棚に上げたいなら前期vs後期でやればいいのに後期の進化したAWDをみたいに！
中期乗ってますがこれは可笑しいです！
単純に制御の綿密さの問題。何でこうなるのかちょっと考えれば分かると思うけど。
Hahaga butthurt subaru fanboy....were not in 1995 anymore when only quattro and subary where doing capable awd road car (not heavy 4x4 transfercase)
Something wrong with the Forester..........Mine had full time AWD, And would pass ANY Mazda.........Paul
This is fake video.I am owning CX-5 AWD and it skids on snow.
Everything skids on snow because snow is slippery (d’uh !). It’s just a case of whose systems deal with that slipperiness best. I’ve not got a lot of experience of 4WD / AWD but I can tell you that my CX-5 deals with everything I need it to. I accept it won’t be as good off road or in snow as a Range Rover or a Jeep but it’s nowhere near the price of either and it’s perfectly adequate.
This is such crap! That Subaru would have done it Without hesitation ! Try your test again. This time no cheating... we all know Mazda vs subies AWD
Ashley Spencer the Subaru sucked
@@atomiccomet3176 Because Mazda put in the fuse to disable the AWD system. Subaru does that for better fuel economy. Mazda knows this and now so do you... :)
Should have used the Toyota Rav4 AWD. It has the low 4x4 lock coupling and it will beat all of these CUV/SUV. LOL
faker won’t make Mazda better
Somehow I do not believe this. Not even considering it. Looks way to 'scripted'
The mazda cx-5 cheated
This shows how much Subaru sucks!ua-cam.com/video/J66v5hdHAxw/v-deo.html
+jesperbbb ... the same thing man. It proves only that Mazda engage AWD when wheels are turned. Subaru doesn't do it to make a more comfortable ride and not kill components in the AWD unnecessary. It doesn't mean Subaru goes FWD or it can't be AWD in that situation, just give more gas and will be cool as Mazda.
By the way, did you watch this video, but from TFL channel?? Looks more real than this, and actually Honda works as good as Honda.
So to say they have the best system just showing ONE situation where is better and quicker than Subaru, doesn't mean is better. Real life, real drive will show it.
Fake
This is an OUTDATED video............My wish is for ALL outdated videos to be removed from the internet..........Paul