Very informative video, Jethro! Many thanks for taking the time to find this 200g weight saving. We are convinced some of our UNA and Flite users are going to love this! Well done!
Glad you approve. A small tweak to a great tent! I'm curious about trying it on even bigger models using this pulley setup on each of the three straps. A video idea for the spring I think :)
Just purchased the Connect model and tried this method in the backyard. Works like a charm. I did use a larger locking carabiner on the tent side so the larger strap would fit flat and function like a pulley. Stoked to use this setup in a few months in the BWCA, which reduces weight by over 4 lbs.
I may give this a try with my connect too. what size carabiner did you use? I know nothing about carabiner sizing. Did you use one adjustable corner or three cuz I never seem to find nicely spaced trees and always mess with each corner after set up.
I love this idea! I recently got one of these rings and tried it in the back yard with my Una 3. It works great! It took me a few times to set things up to get the corners aligned properly, but it was because i was much further from one of the front trees than the other. I actually used the rings on two of the corners but probably only needed on the tail like you did. Thanks for giving me a great idea before my backpacking trip in a few weeks. And as a sailor, I too love pulleys (blocks).
Glad it worked out for you. It always takes a bit of trial and error to get things level but it's worth persevering with as it makes for a much better night's sleep. When trees are at vastly different distances I try to raise the strap on the higher corners to account for excess sag. Where is you next taking you to?
Nice to see you in 2021 Geezer ! I likely can't add too much to the conversation on these tents but your videos have made me think about getting one (and that's a good thing). I've scouted out some locations before the latest lockdown. Thanks for making me aware of the Tentsile Gear.
Cheers buddy. Hope you are keeping well in to '21 as well. I'll try my hardest to be popping up in your feed more often this year - but I say that every year so we shall see :) I'm hoping to do a few more Tentsile videos in the coming months so keep your eyes peeled!
@Jethro Jessop Yes, I fully agree with your comment about Sweden being a good match for these tents. Finding a level spot without boulders or bushes is one of the biggest challenges when attempting to wild camp. I'm really tempted by the Una. But it requires some re-thinking of old habits. I'm used to being the single person in a 2- or even 3-person tent so all my gear and gadgets fit inside along me. If I understand your experiences with the Flite, that's not really a good way to use the tree tents as you'd end up with everything rolling down to snuggle with you during the night. The "danger" is then that I'd "have to" get the ground cover and the net bubble for rain (and mosquito) shelter in the evenings. Hmmm... I wonder if ticks can climb trees and tightrope-walk the straps? Getting out of the reach of those little disease-carriers might be the final selling point! But seriously, my real question is about the size. I'm taller than you (194 cm/6'4") and typically sleep diagonally in rectangular tents...
At 6'4" I'd guess you would be ok but probably getting towards the limits. Maybe ping Tentsile and get them to confirm though. As to the other points, you are right, it does require a slight change in mindset. The storage on the Una is much better than the Flite but you still wouldn't get all your gear in like you might in a ground tent. You can either stack it up underneath where it will stay pretty dry but is vulnerable to rodents and creepy crawlies or leave stuff on the bike which was what I found myself doing. It does open up certain spots for camping that wouldn't be possible otherwise but at the same time it closes others down so it is very much personal preference thing. I'd be very surprised if a tick made its way in from the ground or the trees. More likely that they would hitch a ride in on you but even in my ground tent I've only ever found one actually in my tent once. After that I got pretty on it with brushing down before getting in and have managed to survive with relatively few actually getting their teeth in. At the end of the day, some folk love these tents other don't. If you are used to hammock camping then it will feel like a palace but if you are used to soloing in a 3P tent then you might find it a bit of a shock. If you do decide to pull the trigger, don't forget to use my promo code in the video description! It will get you a bit of money off and it gets me... well, nothing really but it lets Tentsile know that I'm driving some sales and that might mean more gear to test in the future :)
@@JethroJessop I think I have to force myself to show some restraint. Just because I'm bored out of my skull by two winters (long, Swedish winters!) and the intervening summer with nothing more than a 2-day 60+60 km ride, doesn't mean I should compensate by buying more gear and gadgets!. Since I have a nice, freestanding 2-person (in theory) tent, I'll start out with that for summer/fall 2021 (or whenever we finally get our nu-flu shots). There's a social aspect to staying in campsites that may (hopefully) be a welcome change after over a year of social distancing.
I don't really get these tents in the air but this hack seems like a game changer. Those ratchets are not only bulky and heavy but look like a right PITA taking up valuable space in bags. But I am a land lubber so prefer a conventional tent firmly on the ground so will never face these dilemmas.
They definitely aren't for everyone or for every situation. I still love my Copper Spur but I also just love the idea and the engineering of the UNA. It's a great concept, well executed and I love this new approach to pitching - so elegant. I dunno why I find it so pleasing to hold all that tension without even tying a knot, it just seems like magic to my simple mind :)
@@alexmorgan3435 Words of wisdom indeed. I tend to agree. For long trips I'd take a traditional tent but for shorter ones where I know there will be trees the Una is nice. It's pretty easy to pitch after a bit of practice, it's really comfy and I love sitting under it to have breakfast. It's also a great conversation starter if that is something you care about :)
If you have ever been Canoe camping in Sweden, Norway or Finland it is often used impossible to find some level ground, with all the boulders and bushes roots and what not, these tree tents seem like the perfect solution for me and the missus!
Hi Jethro! This summer i discovered this tent in Norway and as quickly as i ciuld i orderd one. Had my first night in the una last night. Still love it. Do you can tell anything more on this ring? Because i see there are differences in how much waight these rings can carry… your video is 3 years old.. any updates on that elegant system? No broken necks?
No updates and no broken necks, thankfully! I think the ring is some kind of bilay ring but I'm really not sure. I'd guess that anything rated for climbing to take a full body weight would be fine but I'd err on the side of caution. Glad you are liking the tent though. I've not been out on mine for a while, might be time to do another night in the trees!
And another comment: I, for one, would really like to see a "howto" video on your video creation process. Both the physical bits (how you manage the selfie stick, microphone etc while riding) and the editing on the phone! Your videos are better quality than some from folks who spend a month post-ride for every one-day-of-riding clip. Truly amazing! Of course, I realize that you'd have to rig a second camera or phone to film your filming and editing. And then you'd need a third camera to film the second! Apply recursively and you can keep yourself busy until this entire Covid thing is nothing more than a small chapter in the history books :-)
Thank you, I try my best with the limited kit I have, and I should say that I only edit on the phone on longer rides, the most recent videos are all done using Adobe Premier. What I see in my videos is mostly the bad auto focus and jerky panning on my phone. Then I watch other videos and just see all their fantastic DSLR footage and sweeping drone shots and get depressed ;) I keep toying with getting a drone but I know that when it comes to it I won't want to keep stopping to send it up and I'd probably just break it anyway. This idea has been requested before though but I've never really found a way to make it into (my idea of) of fun video. Maybe it is time to have another think about it though. As you say, I'd have to employ a stunt phone to do all the cut in shots :)
@@JethroJessop I fully understand. I LOVE tech gadgets. I WANT a drone. But I also know I would fly it into a tree or a 400kV power pylon within seconds after I launch it. And then there's the old "once I wrote a program twice" joke about duplicating the code in overly verbose comments. Well, I can no longer watch a "drive-by" video clip of someone cycling past their camera, without thinking "Once I rode a trail thrice!" Cool shots, for sure. Would I have the patience to go up ahead, set the camera, go back, ride past the camera, go back, pick up the camera and finally ride again past to where I just turned? NO! Kudos to you who can stomach it, 'cause I sure can't. If I can find a patient riding buddy so we can take turns leapfrogging each other, that might work for filming. IF said riding buddy is angelic enough to put up with all my quirks and incessant jabbering. Otherwise I'll just stick to filming the odd canal bridges, aqueducts and flights of locks.
@@TorstenLif The occasional ride by shot is about the highest production value I achieve and usually I make do with just the old POV handlebars view, purely out of my own laziness. When I finally find a way to make a living as a wandering spoon carver/wizard poet I'll come back to Sweden and ride the canal with you. We can alternate filming from one end to the other a make the ultimate cinematic canal ride epic - not a drone in sight :)
@@JethroJessop I'd be happy to ride with you. On the relatively (very!) flat towpaths we might even be matching speeds. I ride a recumbent so typically I get dropped on the uphills and then annoy the head-firsters by zooming past them on the descents. In 2019 I discovered "Boat Tubers" (I was actually looking for info about riding on UK canal towpaths, honest!) and got sucked into their world of canal videos, so I've figured that the least I can do is to make a video highlighting the quirks and oddities that differentiates Göta Kanal from the UK canals. But that would focus on the canal, not on my riding along it. I've already ridden most of it at least once and some parts several times, so I can testify that it's fun enough to merit returning to. Whenever you're able to return to Scandihoovia, give me a shout and we'll see if we can have a go at it.
@@TorstenLif It's a deal. I'm intrigued by swedish canals now. In the UK they were a big deal for a long time as part of our industry then many of them were completely forgotten and left to fill with weeds. It's only since the 70s I think that they have started to be revived as pleasure and tourism things.
Hello Jethro! I really enjoy your videos, I started with the Tentsile content as I recently bought an Una and I really enjoy it. I want to try the setup used in this video and I have the carabiners and mystery ring. I see how the no ratchet portion works, and was wondering how you set up the third strap with no weblock. Is it another Windsor knot like on the first strap or do you have a different technique? Greetings from America! Keep up the good work and happy trails
Greetings, glad you are liking the videos. Yeah, the two other straps are both the same knot. I honestly don't know what it's called though. Anything that will hold fast and not bite too hard.
Very nice to hear that's the case. I hope to pop up many more times in the future. I really need to get some big rides in, I'm bored of lockdown now and I can only do so many great reviews 😉
@@JethroJessop roll on spring! I'm certain you have many many great rides and adventures planned, I know how much you love it here in moist Wales for the packing, I'm sure you'll be back here soon!
@@welshbikepackingadventures I really hope so. I'm mulling the Pennine Bridleway maybe in April - all depends on lockdown restrictions though. An end to end of Wales is an alternative plan though. Will see what takes my fancy nearer the time. You have any plans to be looking forward to?
@@JethroJessop sounds amazing, yes I did Cardiff to aberystwyth last summer through mid Wales, I was planning on going further up to Anglesey but failed, so this year Im definitely going to attempt it again.
Bloody covid. All we can do is wait and hope it gets cleared up. It can't go on forever and one day there will be sunshine and camping trips and all things good again. I hope. I rate the UNA. If you want a tree tent but you want it packable then this is the one and being able to ditch the ratchet and weblock makes it even more appealing I think.
Interesting video on a product I will probably never use due to lack of trees in my country...A tent will always be my number one choice for a shelter here... Also..if you are doing away with an item just to lighten the load about 200grams then this adage comes to mind: "a true UL cyclist will live off the land, sleep in the bushes drink from streams and most importantly ride naked!"
That is very true, normally I cycle nude of course but I put clothes on for the videos just to appease the algorithm :) I think dedicated ultralight practitioners would probably shy away from this tent no matter what but inn this case it's losing 200g for no sacrifice at all so a no brainer ultralight or not.
@@JethroJessop everything for the UL cause! But I have to wonder since the strap itself is made to hold the weight without any sort of knot. And pardon my english, hopefully I make this somewhat clear. The strap needs to have some sort of grip on it to be able to kind of grip on to itself instead of just sliding from it underneath. I know that the tension of the overlaying strap creates weight unto the bottom strap but is that enough? If there is movement in the tent, like when you climb in and out of it, is there no friction in the strap? Any elasticity in the strap which could loosen it over time? How does it maintain grip if the strap is wet or accidentally gets covered in mud or other debri like fine sand or pebbles? Just some thoughts. I do agree with you that this is a much more elegant solution over the other contraption which is more at home in a movers lorry.
@@andrifsig I'm not sure about bad conditions, that is something that would be interesting to try out. Next time I'll try with wet straps and see. My hunch would be that it would be fine. It may slip if pitched for multiple nights but is dead easy to re-tension. I was very cautious about getting in the first few times I tried this by the time I filmed I was hopping in and out just as I would on the ratchet. The way the straps interact is really clever. The tension causes the top one to bite down and pinch the bottom one against the carabiner and because of the way they are looped the two are both trying to pull in opposite directions. Even if it slipped it would be a barely noticeable, slow movement rather than a catastrophic failure. I'm talking like an expert which I'mm not but I'll report back if it ever dumps me on my arse in the middle of the night :)
Hey Jethro, is it possible to give me the specific info what parts I will need to set it up like that? You already mentioned that you forgot the ring name but maybe you know it by now. I think your solution ist amazing. I am going to go bikepacking with the Una and therefore mainly the saved space ist most important. Greetings from Germany!
You'll need the extra carabiner for the pulley point and the optional ring for quickest set up. I can't find the receipt for the ring but I'm fairly sure it was this one - www.gustharts.com/climbing-equipment-c1/harnesses-spares-c2/harness-spares-c224/stein-aluminium-ring-45mm-p909. It would be worth contacting Tentsile as they can supply the carabiners and I think they also do an o-ring that may work. Mention my name if you do speak to them, it makes me look good :) Otherwise, any climbing supplies shop should be able to sort you out. I don't think it really matters too much as long as it is good and sturdy. I got this technique from watching slack-line setup videos (search Primitive Slackline and you'll find the same ones I expect) and they used all kinds of different bits of kit - carabiners, rappel rings - anything that will take the force. Or you can leave it out completely and just tie your carabiner straight into the strap. Happy to answer question if you have them and I'm really keen to hear how the technique works out for you!
I'm not sure, mine just came with black ones. Maybe contact Tensile and see if they are available still? I agree, they are nicer than the orange ones. Glad you are liking the bids 😀
That looks great, loving the tentsile videos as always. I would be tempted to put a couple of loose half hitches in the loose end the other side of the metal bits so that if it does slip they take the weight.
That's not a bad shout. I'm not an expert on knots or rigging but I seems really secure as is. The overlapping straps are biting down on each other while trying to pull in opposite directions. The only way I can see it failing badly would be if the mystery ring broke but it's rated to 25kn so should be fine. Similarly, though it is really easy to release you'd be hard pressed to do it by mistake. I would tidy up the loose strap so it isn't hanging and for the sake of a few seconds a couple of half hitches for peace of mind couldn't hurt though
Yeah you could, it's just a way to pull tension really. Pitching in an uneven triangle is completely doable but it does take more fiddling and is harder to get a level i find
The ring is this one www.gustharts.com/climbing-equipment-c1/harnesses-spares-c2/harness-spares-c224/stein-aluminium-ring-45mm-p909 The carabiner is a spare of the ones that came with the Una which I got from Tentsile www.tentsile.com/collections/accessories/products/small-carabiner-for-una-1-person-hammock-tent I'm sure there are numerous options for the ring in terms of size - as long as the strap fits through it - and equally I expect any climbing shop would have a range of carabiners but those are the ones I used. If you find any better options then let me know, I'm always looking for ways to improve this set up. Cheers for watching :)
Very informative video, Jethro! Many thanks for taking the time to find this 200g weight saving. We are convinced some of our UNA and Flite users are going to love this! Well done!
Glad you approve. A small tweak to a great tent! I'm curious about trying it on even bigger models using this pulley setup on each of the three straps. A video idea for the spring I think :)
@@JethroJessop Absolutely!! :)
Just purchased the Connect model and tried this method in the backyard. Works like a charm. I did use a larger locking carabiner on the tent side so the larger strap would fit flat and function like a pulley. Stoked to use this setup in a few months in the BWCA, which reduces weight by over 4 lbs.
That's great. I wondered how it would work with the bigger models. Glad it is useful and thanks for letting me know.
Good luck on the next trip!
I may give this a try with my connect too. what size carabiner did you use? I know nothing about carabiner sizing. Did you use one adjustable corner or three cuz I never seem to find nicely spaced trees and always mess with each corner after set up.
I love this idea! I recently got one of these rings and tried it in the back yard with my Una 3. It works great! It took me a few times to set things up to get the corners aligned properly, but it was because i was much further from one of the front trees than the other. I actually used the rings on two of the corners but probably only needed on the tail like you did. Thanks for giving me a great idea before my backpacking trip in a few weeks. And as a sailor, I too love pulleys (blocks).
Glad it worked out for you.
It always takes a bit of trial and error to get things level but it's worth persevering with as it makes for a much better night's sleep.
When trees are at vastly different distances I try to raise the strap on the higher corners to account for excess sag.
Where is you next taking you to?
You´re a natural teacher man!
There's no better thing to be :)
Nice to see you in 2021 Geezer ! I likely can't add too much to the conversation on these tents but your videos have made me think about getting one (and that's a good thing). I've scouted out some locations before the latest lockdown. Thanks for making me aware of the Tentsile Gear.
Cheers buddy. Hope you are keeping well in to '21 as well.
I'll try my hardest to be popping up in your feed more often this year - but I say that every year so we shall see :)
I'm hoping to do a few more Tentsile videos in the coming months so keep your eyes peeled!
Thanks for the video, I will try my soon.
Hope it works out for you :)
Great video, I would love to try this sometimes! Tree and tent what a combo - winner.
Sweden would be the absolute perfect country for these tents. Another reason for me to come back again soon!
@Jethro Jessop Yes, I fully agree with your comment about Sweden being a good match for these tents. Finding a level spot without boulders or bushes is one of the biggest challenges when attempting to wild camp. I'm really tempted by the Una. But it requires some re-thinking of old habits. I'm used to being the single person in a 2- or even 3-person tent so all my gear and gadgets fit inside along me. If I understand your experiences with the Flite, that's not really a good way to use the tree tents as you'd end up with everything rolling down to snuggle with you during the night. The "danger" is then that I'd "have to" get the ground cover and the net bubble for rain (and mosquito) shelter in the evenings.
Hmmm... I wonder if ticks can climb trees and tightrope-walk the straps? Getting out of the reach of those little disease-carriers might be the final selling point!
But seriously, my real question is about the size. I'm taller than you (194 cm/6'4") and typically sleep diagonally in rectangular tents...
At 6'4" I'd guess you would be ok but probably getting towards the limits. Maybe ping Tentsile and get them to confirm though.
As to the other points, you are right, it does require a slight change in mindset. The storage on the Una is much better than the Flite but you still wouldn't get all your gear in like you might in a ground tent. You can either stack it up underneath where it will stay pretty dry but is vulnerable to rodents and creepy crawlies or leave stuff on the bike which was what I found myself doing.
It does open up certain spots for camping that wouldn't be possible otherwise but at the same time it closes others down so it is very much personal preference thing.
I'd be very surprised if a tick made its way in from the ground or the trees. More likely that they would hitch a ride in on you but even in my ground tent I've only ever found one actually in my tent once. After that I got pretty on it with brushing down before getting in and have managed to survive with relatively few actually getting their teeth in.
At the end of the day, some folk love these tents other don't. If you are used to hammock camping then it will feel like a palace but if you are used to soloing in a 3P tent then you might find it a bit of a shock.
If you do decide to pull the trigger, don't forget to use my promo code in the video description! It will get you a bit of money off and it gets me... well, nothing really but it lets Tentsile know that I'm driving some sales and that might mean more gear to test in the future :)
@@JethroJessop I think I have to force myself to show some restraint. Just because I'm bored out of my skull by two winters (long, Swedish winters!) and the intervening summer with nothing more than a 2-day 60+60 km ride, doesn't mean I should compensate by buying more gear and gadgets!. Since I have a nice, freestanding 2-person (in theory) tent, I'll start out with that for summer/fall 2021 (or whenever we finally get our nu-flu shots). There's a social aspect to staying in campsites that may (hopefully) be a welcome change after over a year of social distancing.
Elegant solution!
I was really pleased when I found this. It works very well and is, as you say, very elegant!
I don't really get these tents in the air but this hack seems like a game changer. Those ratchets are not only bulky and heavy but look like a right PITA taking up valuable space in bags. But I am a land lubber so prefer a conventional tent firmly on the ground so will never face these dilemmas.
They definitely aren't for everyone or for every situation. I still love my Copper Spur but I also just love the idea and the engineering of the UNA. It's a great concept, well executed and I love this new approach to pitching - so elegant.
I dunno why I find it so pleasing to hold all that tension without even tying a knot, it just seems like magic to my simple mind :)
@@JethroJessop Simplicity is generally best.
@@alexmorgan3435 Words of wisdom indeed. I tend to agree.
For long trips I'd take a traditional tent but for shorter ones where I know there will be trees the Una is nice. It's pretty easy to pitch after a bit of practice, it's really comfy and I love sitting under it to have breakfast.
It's also a great conversation starter if that is something you care about :)
If you have ever been Canoe camping in Sweden, Norway or Finland it is often used impossible to find some level ground, with all the boulders and bushes roots and what not, these tree tents seem like the perfect solution for me and the missus!
Hi Jethro!
This summer i discovered this tent in Norway and as quickly as i ciuld i orderd one. Had my first night in the una last night. Still love it. Do you can tell anything more on this ring? Because i see there are differences in how much waight these rings can carry… your video is 3 years old.. any updates on that elegant system? No broken necks?
No updates and no broken necks, thankfully!
I think the ring is some kind of bilay ring but I'm really not sure. I'd guess that anything rated for climbing to take a full body weight would be fine but I'd err on the side of caution.
Glad you are liking the tent though. I've not been out on mine for a while, might be time to do another night in the trees!
And another comment: I, for one, would really like to see a "howto" video on your video creation process. Both the physical bits (how you manage the selfie stick, microphone etc while riding) and the editing on the phone! Your videos are better quality than some from folks who spend a month post-ride for every one-day-of-riding clip. Truly amazing!
Of course, I realize that you'd have to rig a second camera or phone to film your filming and editing. And then you'd need a third camera to film the second! Apply recursively and you can keep yourself busy until this entire Covid thing is nothing more than a small chapter in the history books :-)
Thank you, I try my best with the limited kit I have, and I should say that I only edit on the phone on longer rides, the most recent videos are all done using Adobe Premier.
What I see in my videos is mostly the bad auto focus and jerky panning on my phone. Then I watch other videos and just see all their fantastic DSLR footage and sweeping drone shots and get depressed ;)
I keep toying with getting a drone but I know that when it comes to it I won't want to keep stopping to send it up and I'd probably just break it anyway.
This idea has been requested before though but I've never really found a way to make it into (my idea of) of fun video. Maybe it is time to have another think about it though. As you say, I'd have to employ a stunt phone to do all the cut in shots :)
@@JethroJessop I fully understand. I LOVE tech gadgets. I WANT a drone. But I also know I would fly it into a tree or a 400kV power pylon within seconds after I launch it.
And then there's the old "once I wrote a program twice" joke about duplicating the code in overly verbose comments. Well, I can no longer watch a "drive-by" video clip of someone cycling past their camera, without thinking "Once I rode a trail thrice!" Cool shots, for sure. Would I have the patience to go up ahead, set the camera, go back, ride past the camera, go back, pick up the camera and finally ride again past to where I just turned? NO! Kudos to you who can stomach it, 'cause I sure can't. If I can find a patient riding buddy so we can take turns leapfrogging each other, that might work for filming. IF said riding buddy is angelic enough to put up with all my quirks and incessant jabbering. Otherwise I'll just stick to filming the odd canal bridges, aqueducts and flights of locks.
@@TorstenLif The occasional ride by shot is about the highest production value I achieve and usually I make do with just the old POV handlebars view, purely out of my own laziness.
When I finally find a way to make a living as a wandering spoon carver/wizard poet I'll come back to Sweden and ride the canal with you. We can alternate filming from one end to the other a make the ultimate cinematic canal ride epic - not a drone in sight :)
@@JethroJessop I'd be happy to ride with you. On the relatively (very!) flat towpaths we might even be matching speeds. I ride a recumbent so typically I get dropped on the uphills and then annoy the head-firsters by zooming past them on the descents.
In 2019 I discovered "Boat Tubers" (I was actually looking for info about riding on UK canal towpaths, honest!) and got sucked into their world of canal videos, so I've figured that the least I can do is to make a video highlighting the quirks and oddities that differentiates Göta Kanal from the UK canals. But that would focus on the canal, not on my riding along it. I've already ridden most of it at least once and some parts several times, so I can testify that it's fun enough to merit returning to. Whenever you're able to return to Scandihoovia, give me a shout and we'll see if we can have a go at it.
@@TorstenLif It's a deal.
I'm intrigued by swedish canals now. In the UK they were a big deal for a long time as part of our industry then many of them were completely forgotten and left to fill with weeds. It's only since the 70s I think that they have started to be revived as pleasure and tourism things.
Hello Jethro!
I really enjoy your videos, I started with the Tentsile content as I recently bought an Una and I really enjoy it. I want to try the setup used in this video and I have the carabiners and mystery ring. I see how the no ratchet portion works, and was wondering how you set up the third strap with no weblock. Is it another Windsor knot like on the first strap or do you have a different technique?
Greetings from America! Keep up the good work and happy trails
Greetings, glad you are liking the videos.
Yeah, the two other straps are both the same knot. I honestly don't know what it's called though. Anything that will hold fast and not bite too hard.
Thanks Jethro! Always a great pleasure to see you pop up in my feed, peace brother x
Very nice to hear that's the case. I hope to pop up many more times in the future.
I really need to get some big rides in, I'm bored of lockdown now and I can only do so many great reviews 😉
@@JethroJessop roll on spring! I'm certain you have many many great rides and adventures planned, I know how much you love it here in moist Wales for the packing, I'm sure you'll be back here soon!
@@welshbikepackingadventures I really hope so. I'm mulling the Pennine Bridleway maybe in April - all depends on lockdown restrictions though. An end to end of Wales is an alternative plan though. Will see what takes my fancy nearer the time. You have any plans to be looking forward to?
@@JethroJessop sounds amazing, yes I did Cardiff to aberystwyth last summer through mid Wales, I was planning on going further up to Anglesey but failed, so this year Im definitely going to attempt it again.
And inspired by your good self I'm planning on documenting this years jaunts 🙏 out of curiosity Jethro what filming setup do you use
I like that, really interested in the UNA but they are currently unavailable, COVID CRAP & all
Bloody covid. All we can do is wait and hope it gets cleared up. It can't go on forever and one day there will be sunshine and camping trips and all things good again. I hope.
I rate the UNA. If you want a tree tent but you want it packable then this is the one and being able to ditch the ratchet and weblock makes it even more appealing I think.
Hi Elizabeth, we have a some in the US and the European stock should be coming this week.
Interesting video on a product I will probably never use due to lack of trees in my country...A tent will always be my number one choice for a shelter here...
Also..if you are doing away with an item just to lighten the load about 200grams then this adage comes to mind: "a true UL cyclist will live off the land, sleep in the bushes drink from streams and most importantly ride naked!"
That is very true, normally I cycle nude of course but I put clothes on for the videos just to appease the algorithm :)
I think dedicated ultralight practitioners would probably shy away from this tent no matter what but inn this case it's losing 200g for no sacrifice at all so a no brainer ultralight or not.
@@JethroJessop everything for the UL cause!
But I have to wonder since the strap itself is made to hold the weight without any sort of knot. And pardon my english, hopefully I make this somewhat clear. The strap needs to have some sort of grip on it to be able to kind of grip on to itself instead of just sliding from it underneath. I know that the tension of the overlaying strap creates weight unto the bottom strap but is that enough? If there is movement in the tent, like when you climb in and out of it, is there no friction in the strap? Any elasticity in the strap which could loosen it over time? How does it maintain grip if the strap is wet or accidentally gets covered in mud or other debri like fine sand or pebbles?
Just some thoughts.
I do agree with you that this is a much more elegant solution over the other contraption which is more at home in a movers lorry.
@@andrifsig I'm not sure about bad conditions, that is something that would be interesting to try out. Next time I'll try with wet straps and see.
My hunch would be that it would be fine. It may slip if pitched for multiple nights but is dead easy to re-tension. I was very cautious about getting in the first few times I tried this by the time I filmed I was hopping in and out just as I would on the ratchet.
The way the straps interact is really clever. The tension causes the top one to bite down and pinch the bottom one against the carabiner and because of the way they are looped the two are both trying to pull in opposite directions. Even if it slipped it would be a barely noticeable, slow movement rather than a catastrophic failure.
I'm talking like an expert which I'mm not but I'll report back if it ever dumps me on my arse in the middle of the night :)
Hey Jethro, is it possible to give me the specific info what parts I will need to set it up like that? You already mentioned that you forgot the ring name but maybe you know it by now. I think your solution ist amazing. I am going to go bikepacking with the Una and therefore mainly the saved space ist most important. Greetings from Germany!
You'll need the extra carabiner for the pulley point and the optional ring for quickest set up.
I can't find the receipt for the ring but I'm fairly sure it was this one - www.gustharts.com/climbing-equipment-c1/harnesses-spares-c2/harness-spares-c224/stein-aluminium-ring-45mm-p909.
It would be worth contacting Tentsile as they can supply the carabiners and I think they also do an o-ring that may work. Mention my name if you do speak to them, it makes me look good :)
Otherwise, any climbing supplies shop should be able to sort you out.
I don't think it really matters too much as long as it is good and sturdy. I got this technique from watching slack-line setup videos (search Primitive Slackline and you'll find the same ones I expect) and they used all kinds of different bits of kit - carabiners, rappel rings - anything that will take the force. Or you can leave it out completely and just tie your carabiner straight into the strap.
Happy to answer question if you have them and I'm really keen to hear how the technique works out for you!
Genius
Thanks. I totally stole the idea from watching slackline videos but I'll take the compliment 😉
hey Jethro! How did you get the black straps?? I prefer them over the orange ones. Love your vids, thanks man!
I'm not sure, mine just came with black ones. Maybe contact Tensile and see if they are available still?
I agree, they are nicer than the orange ones.
Glad you are liking the bids 😀
That looks great, loving the tentsile videos as always.
I would be tempted to put a couple of loose half hitches in the loose end the other side of the metal bits so that if it does slip they take the weight.
That's not a bad shout. I'm not an expert on knots or rigging but I seems really secure as is. The overlapping straps are biting down on each other while trying to pull in opposite directions. The only way I can see it failing badly would be if the mystery ring broke but it's rated to 25kn so should be fine.
Similarly, though it is really easy to release you'd be hard pressed to do it by mistake.
I would tidy up the loose strap so it isn't hanging and for the sake of a few seconds a couple of half hitches for peace of mind couldn't hurt though
I recognise that I’m late to the party, but couldn’t a person use this setup on all three corners for trees that are not so equilateral?
Yeah you could, it's just a way to pull tension really.
Pitching in an uneven triangle is completely doable but it does take more fiddling and is harder to get a level i find
How big is the rappel ring?
The ring is this one www.gustharts.com/climbing-equipment-c1/harnesses-spares-c2/harness-spares-c224/stein-aluminium-ring-45mm-p909
The carabiner is a spare of the ones that came with the Una which I got from Tentsile www.tentsile.com/collections/accessories/products/small-carabiner-for-una-1-person-hammock-tent
I'm sure there are numerous options for the ring in terms of size - as long as the strap fits through it - and equally I expect any climbing shop would have a range of carabiners but those are the ones I used.
If you find any better options then let me know, I'm always looking for ways to improve this set up.
Cheers for watching :)
My girl says that she knows what that ring is called.....
Does she indeed? ;)
I too, find pulleys sexy
I'm very glad it isn't just me 😉
Google'd pulley hentai and this is the video I get...🙄....... Don't kink shame. 🤨
I run a very inclusive channel here. All are welcome whether you are a bikepacker, cycle tourer or pulley-fancier :)