We are having a house built and cause of space said tankless so I asked the name brand and it was navien. So looked them up on Google and you tube. Saw some good and bad reviews which you will have that in anything. Ours is in now but plumber videos has been popping up now and your video popped up. I really dig watching you and this kind of trade videos. I'm sure the more you hang these things the better they get but I can see there is a lot of planning when doing an install. Anyway after I watch you guys it make me want to go mess with my plumbing or build something..lol..good video.
We install a few different brands. They are all pretty similar these days. I have found I like the Navien the most. Have your plumber install a return line to really take advantage of the built in recirculating pump.
Shane. The buffer tank is utilized by internal recirculation in the heater. There are settings for external recirculation, and a specific inlet on the heater that your recirculating line would tie into. There are also settings for smart recirculation always on and timed.
tank heater was feed by 1/2” pipe. The heater calls for 3/4”. They make retrofit units that will run on smaller pipe. Your gas is probably undersized for that 200kbtu unit
It will take you 5 ACTUAL MINUTES to remove that water heater when it fails in 5-7 years. Have you seen Mikey Pipes? You should installed a fire tube or non-condensing Navien model.
@@B-RADRIDES I've been following Mikey Pipes on UA-cam for a while now. The water tube heat exchangers (NPE, NCB, NHB) have defective heat exchangers and leak combustion gases right out of the box. The gas leak and the extreme heat generated inside the cabinet causes the plastic leach oil, damage the PCB, and cause loose screws.
@@xcmskim4 your wrong.....when the unit begins to show signs of that its not the heat exchanger, its the upper exhaust gasket that needs to be replaced...
@@pitbullsyndicate93 Mikey Pipes had a video where he unboxed a new Navien NPE at the supply house and sprayed the heat exchanger with soapy water. He lost the lawsuit to Navien so he had to take down all Navien repair videos. Thats why he calls them deathbox in his new videos.
@@xcmskim4 what does that have anything to do with the oil substance from the products of combustion leaking past the upper exhaust gasket. I have come across this alot , has nothing to do with the heat exchanger at all...
Whoa Whoa, slow down buddy, you are making the rest of us look bad!! :0)
Nice install.
Thank you. I like having my work look good. It was fun to film and edit it also.
Very neat!
Hi Brad. Nice install. What is the approximate labor cost for an install like this?
Lots of variables but lots of times it's in the $5000-$6000 range. Including all the material and the water heater.
We are having a house built and cause of space said tankless so I asked the name brand and it was navien. So looked them up on Google and you tube. Saw some good and bad reviews which you will have that in anything. Ours is in now but plumber videos has been popping up now and your video popped up. I really dig watching you and this kind of trade videos. I'm sure the more you hang these things the better they get but I can see there is a lot of planning when doing an install. Anyway after I watch you guys it make me want to go mess with my plumbing or build something..lol..good video.
We install a few different brands. They are all pretty similar these days. I have found I like the Navien the most. Have your plumber install a return line to really take advantage of the built in recirculating pump.
Did you use 1 inch water lines all the way to service valves bud?
drill the foundation concrete?
Don't you need a T line with a valve to hot water inlet for the recirculation pump?
That's a great feature of this heater. Not being utilized in this situation.
@@BRADDAPLUMBER Doesn't this unit come with a recirculation pump and bufer tank? If so what is needed to utilize both?
Shane. The buffer tank is utilized by internal recirculation in the heater. There are settings for external recirculation, and a specific inlet on the heater that your recirculating line would tie into. There are also settings for smart recirculation always on and timed.
Where did you tie the condensate line into?
It went to a floor drain in the room.
tank heater was feed by 1/2” pipe. The heater calls for 3/4”. They make retrofit units that will run on smaller pipe. Your gas is probably undersized for that 200kbtu unit
It runs on up to 20' of 1/2" gas. Not my first choice but removing drywall to get the to 3/4 was not necessary.
As long as your 1/2" is hard piped, you can run what brad said below
Not true. It literally says on the box it can use 1/2".
What does the intake and exhaust look like outside of home?
I don't have a picture but it goes up then had a long sweep 90 and a street 45 on it with a screen to keep critters out.
I meant T line from cold water line
They are not using the recirculating option on this. But there is a built in pump and a connection specifically for the return line if one is desired.
It will take you 5 ACTUAL MINUTES to remove that water heater when it fails in 5-7 years. Have you seen Mikey Pipes? You should installed a fire tube or non-condensing Navien model.
Have not seen his videos. I will have to check it out. I've personally seen these have small issues. Mainly electronic.
@@B-RADRIDES I've been following Mikey Pipes on UA-cam for a while now. The water tube heat exchangers (NPE, NCB, NHB) have defective heat exchangers and leak combustion gases right out of the box. The gas leak and the extreme heat generated inside the cabinet causes the plastic leach oil, damage the PCB, and cause loose screws.
@@xcmskim4 your wrong.....when the unit begins to show signs of that its not the heat exchanger, its the upper exhaust gasket that needs to be replaced...
@@pitbullsyndicate93 Mikey Pipes had a video where he unboxed a new Navien NPE at the supply house and sprayed the heat exchanger with soapy water. He lost the lawsuit to Navien so he had to take down all Navien repair videos. Thats why he calls them deathbox in his new videos.
@@xcmskim4 what does that have anything to do with the oil substance from the products of combustion leaking past the upper exhaust gasket. I have come across this alot , has nothing to do with the heat exchanger at all...
Gas crooked and wack lack of exp
I just looked back at the video, looks level.