Ilyushin IL-2 Sturmovik
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Best ground attack plane of the war? Maybe! I want to talk about the plane in general terms and answer some nagging questions about it. Why didn't Ilyushin use an aircooled engine in this plane? I'll take a look at this, and various other design factors of the Soviet's premier attack plane from WW2.
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I always thought the IL-2 was a very interesting plane. The integration of the armored bathtub into the structure is very clever.
Copied in the A10? An aircraft with the same tactical role and to some degree equal armament, but more power of course. And still going strong.
Unfortunatly they designed a one man aircraft and when they found they needed a rear gunner he got little armour and as a result suffered very high casualties.
Why do you people always think everything is "copied" from something. Designers can have similar ideas without "copying" anything.
@@Leon_der_Luftigeif it’s not anything that’s been done before in anything or anywhere then it’s copied from something isn’t it 🤷♂️
@@alangordon3283 No it really isn't.
LOVE the idea of doing a whole series on the IL2!
Seconded
Thirded?
Yep! I would as well
I'd like to learn more about those connecting rods; whoever designed them however they did had good reasons I'm sure. The amount of resources poured into a fundamentally poor engine didn't help the Soviet war effort any.
Fourtht!
Always a good day when Greg uploads - interested to see some in-depth information on Soviet designs!
I wasn't aware you covered Soviet machines, nice!
I covered the M-82 AKA Ash-82 engine in another video. Other than that I haven't talked about Soviet stuff very much. Depending on how this video does and the poll on Patreon, I may do more.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobilesI'd love to see a video on the I-16, love that little flying barrel lol
@@SUPRAMIKE18that would be an awesome treat!
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobileshope you get good response on patron so that in next video you can cover YAK - 3 and MIG - 3 fighters
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobileswe like it all. Can't go wrong 👍
Please continue to cover the IL-2. Interesting to me is the armored "bathtub concept that we see in the A-10. I flew some aerobatic flights in a SU-29. I asked the owner why the radial engine used a pneumatic starting system and was fitted with no/or very minimal electrical system.
The lack of electrical system was for weight savings as the Soviet generator/alternator was a backup boat anchor for the Soviet Navy. Used for short aerobatic flights only required a small battery to power a few items such as a radio, etc.
I was told the pneumatic starting system was specifically used because this engine was used in extremely cold climates. Batteries and electrical starters do not do well in extremely low temperatures. Pneumatic starter systems do just fine with a round air pressure tank to serve as a "battery" via an engine powered air pump.
You've probably covered this elsewhere. But I found it fascinating.
The Russians weren't stupid. That's for sure.
Yes, a lot of the features of Soviet planes were so they could be used in extremely low temperatures. It's not fair to compare the engine to an English thoroughbred which is only expected to be used in the moderate temperatures of southern England.
I seriously don't know why people don't watch videos on "Soviet Planes" as much as other planes, but I hope you cover this one more, given that it is a superbly popular plane... which we don't know enough about when it comes to technical details. Cheers from Poland!
The algorithm hate Soviet maybe
As Greg said it is hard to read up on this plane with unbiased reports. I certainly would like to hear more on this air armor from Greg.
@@paulwoodman5131 Yup, I heard. That's why I'd love to see more from Greg about it.
I can think of several reasons.
As was said before, it's not easy to get useful information on the topic due to the oppressive information control in the USSR and today's Russia.
Furthermore, this is an American channel in English. Eastern Europeans / Russians usually aren't that good in English and most people are more interested in their own country's aviation.
Then there are a lot of people dismissing Soviet engineering or in this case aviation as bad and not that interesting.
And lastly, I can imagine the current situation in Ukraine doesn't exactly spark euphoria to learn about Russian achievements.
@@Leon_der_Luftige Since this felt a bit personal (I'm sure it wasn't meant to be) and I thought that the person was wrong, I was.... sarcastic. Please take it in good stride, I wish you all the best and good health - it is most important.
First of all his problems were mostly coming from before Russian invasion of Ukraine. Second of all - hi, I'm Polish, glad to meet you. I apologize for my atrocious English, but sadly that is the language we view like 95% of videos we view.
It's hard to get information now, not in USSR. Though sometimes of course some things might have gotten lost due to that. But "forgetfulness" due to repressions is overstated. It just means that there will be more in secondary sources.
I viewed almost every Greg's video. At least 2 of my friends also watch him regularly. Not much Polish stuff. Honestly I find the US planes most boring. Because every American will be saying "This is the best". BTW I do apologize to Americans for that generalization. From what I've seen good half of you aren't assholes. And on this channel, even less.
As for "worse aviation" - similar thing about Japan. Yet you have weebs selling their souls to hear about it and others are also interested. It is mostly Wehraboos and Weebs and Americans with their sense of superiority (which when it comes to this topic is often warranted, but US didn't have "best everything" ffs!) who follow this videos. Since Soviet stuff doesn't have as much following, and this is more specialized channel, there are less "fans" here.
Oooof. Sorry. I really needed to vent. If you also need it - you can rant and vent at me.
The most mass produced aircraft aircraft in WW2.
A 'flying tank' - I never appreciated that the armour also formed part of the structure.
The Il-2 was unique. A remarkable design. Thanks for a fascinating intro Greg!
The Armour has some disadvantages. It provided a lot of coverage but could still be penetrated and couldn't be all that thick. If a round got through it would ricochet around inside very likely killing pilot or gunner. The German Ju 87 didn't have integral fuselage skin Armour but it did have thick Armour around the pilot that was less likely to be penetrated. The gunner only had rear Armour and bottom Armour but if a round went through the side it was unlikely to ricochet. There is a lot to be said for the 'all or nothing' concept where you won't waste weight on thin amour that will be penetrated anyway but use it on concentrated area where it will provide 100% protection.
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Interesting point.
But like respected Greg said, the structural armor is not invented for IL-2 at all, known to everyone at that time, but not now.
Il-2 was in fact very vulnerable (statistics), they were shot down very often. One pilot, poor speed and altitude, clumsy, unstable (rear mass), short range, tiny bomb load, very poor visibility. No country would want one.
But unfortunately, short-range bomber Su-2 was produced in Kharkov, which was soon occupied.
Compare the Il-2 and Su-2 with the Fairy Battle. Battle is three-seater, with navigator, has a range. But the USSR bought a license for the Vultee V-11 and even producing them in time for the war that started soon. But Ilyushin had lobby and influence and was a high official.
@@williamzk9083 Ju-87 never was IL-2's counterpart. Unlike many believe, it's Soviet counterpart would be twin-engine Pe-2 used in a similar role. The most unique thing about IL-2 was its intended role, nowadays replaced by attack helicopters.
I thought that the most mass produced aircraft in WW2 was the Messerschmitt 109. What are the numbers?
Soviet WWII aircraft are seriously under-examined, I enjoyed this episode and look forward to more on the IL-2.
I honestly would love to see more on the IL-2 and the LA-5! The soviet stuff is often over looked i feel. They may not have been the best but there certainly was some unique design choices that worked very well for them. The IL-2 armor being one of them.
If you've ever played ANY of the IL-2 series of games, you'll know that the LA-5 is a beast. Of course, this may be because the games original designers were Russian!
@@FelixstoweFoamForgegame designers for IL2 series were Luftwaffe fanboys as the result most of the times Soviet planes are nerfed (build around low end of specs) and German planes are OP (build around top and even unrealistic specs).
Some significant issues of a real world soviet planes were ignored in the games but most of them are pretty much impossible to implement within PC game/sim or just not a problem for gaming scenarios
@@tsorevitch2409 So, on the one hand, all the Soviet planes are Nered, and the German ones OP, but at the same time, significant issues with the Soviet planes were ignored? That doesn't make any sense. I really think the designers were a bit kind to Soviet aircraft, tbh.
But still, I mainly fly IL46, (Because I'm damned if I'm going to keep buying "modules", just to get a few more aircraft. I don't mind doing it in ROF, because the core game is free, but Current IL2 pricing is stupid), and I find that if I set up a 2 on 1 dogfight between a BF109F4 and I16's, and vice versa, and fly to the aircrafts strengths, I'll win most of the time. energy with the the 109, angles with the I16.
And that's what I want from a flight sim; good flight models, decent AI and a dynamic campaign.
Graphic some a long way down the list.
And I maintain that the LA5 and it's variants is a beast. Get one of those behind you when you're flying a BF 109G and you run out of options very very quickly. So much for "Nerfed". Russian designers being Luftwaffe fanboys? Just can't see that. If they were, the Fw190 wouldn't be such a pig to fly well in combat.
How does one define best? i think i get what you mean, not quit cutting edge but servicable and at a much reduced production cost of many of
It's western counterparts!
I was one of the earliest owners of the IL2 flight simulation package. I believe I paid a high price for the most powerful single processor at the time. I astounded pilots for years after with the "real feel" and even the visuals. Force feedback on the Microsoft Sidewinder joystick was awesome for twenty years ago. I knew the Soviet military created the Sim engine. It was the best.
Soviet military had nothing to do with IL-2 (both old and new) or DCS. DCS started on OGRE. IL-2 used their own engine. ROF/BOS, also. AFAIK none of these engines is used in Russian military simulations.
By all means please continue this series! The IL2 is such an iconic airplane, I was immediately interested when I saw the title. Leaving us sit with just the intro would be quite disappointing.
Dear Greg, I love your channel. The articulated con rod is composed of a master rod with a slave rod with its own big end bearing, like a conventional radial engine's con-rod. I saw it in a museum back in the seventies that espoused the virtues of soviet engineering, etc... I was also given permission to visit Domo, or Dromo-something, memory doesn't fade, it's completely gone, a large aviation park near Mosko. I wish I could find the thousands of pictures I took while in the ASA. I was a diplo-courier at the time and it was a rare opportunity to see Russia.
I sincerely hope you find those pictures and post them either to a YT vid or some web page. That could be some priceless footage for the community.
Hope to see more on the Il-2! Always look forward to videos.
The articulating rods would have been patterned after the BMW licensed engines they had, BMW VI that mikulin had already designed. I think it's something that was carried over along with several other BMW features. Something similar ended up in the later VK-10(x) engines as well afaik. It's all very strange but I wonder if it had to do with existing production methods the factories already knew? It's just very weird and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one confused by the Soviet preference in master/slave connecting rods. The V-2 tank engine also has this con rod arrangement.
i was thinking of the Hispano-Suiza v-12. same thing.
@@peevee2009 the VK-105 and later versions of the licensed HS-12 ended up with the master/slave rod set up if I recall correctly.
I knew someone would post on this. I'm sure you know this, but I'll post it in case someone doesn't. All radials have it. The second connecting rod is connected not to the crank, but to the other connecting rod - hence master/slave reference. It gives the slave piston a different stroke length. I can only think they did this to try and reduce engine length. Not good for revs - which isn't such a problem on a radial.
The BMW VI V12 was developed from the BMW IV Inline six cylinder engine. They just added a second cylinder bank with master and slave connecting rods. My guess is they wanted to keep the crankshaft and crankcase as it was and this was the easiest way to do this without redesigning the whole thing. The russians later build a copy of the engine which was called Mikulin M-17. It`s just weird that the russians keept this feature into all further developments.
@@davidellis2021 on a radial they all have the same stroke right?
Please keep producing more videos on Soviet aircraft. The level of detail you provide is so great that any aircraft will benefit from your studies. Don't worry about what people may like. As Steve Jobs said (allegedly) about the iPhone, people didn't know what they wanted until Apple built it :)
Hi, there are different manuals for different purposes in the Red Army and Soviet Army. In this case, this manual is not the principal guiding manual for all Il-2 pilots, there are technically-focused manuals such as "Техническое описание самолета Ил-2 с мотором АМ-38", which is "Technical description of the Il-2 airplane with AM-38 engine". It includes troubleshooting information, general technical information, and so on.
I have those, they are not pilot manuals.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Oh, could you elaborate on why?
I find Soviet aerospace engineering fascinating for both its successes and its failures. They worked under different constraints than Western designers and came up with some creative solutions. I would love for you to make videos on Soviet aircraft from the 1930s to the 1970s.
Oh yeah I love soviet designs so I'm gonna love this one. Found your channel recently it's simply amazing for aviation enthusiasts. Thank you for your work.
I loved this video. The IL2 has always seemed like an oddball plane to have been produced in such huge numbers. I’m very interested in learning more about its design and how it played into its tactical use.
It is not "oddball" if you first understand the Soviet tactical doctrine. Their doctrine was almost completely opposite of the US and Great Britain. The IL2 makes perfect sense for they type of war that the Soviets were fighting. This is the same reason the the P39, an aircraft that was considered "mediocre" by the other Allies were loved by the Soviet Air forces. The IL2 and P39 fit into the Soviet Tactical plan perfectly.
@@mlynch001 Il-2s were shot down very often and carried bombs very few and far between. They had no range, no navigator, and no visibility. Perfect?
@@Ernest-jr They did not need great range, the IL2 was almost always based a short distance from the front lines, flying from crude airfields. They did not need "navigators" as the Soviet planes were ground controlled and pilots could usually SEE the enemy or the smoke from the battle and thus, where they were to attack. Think of Ivan the pilot, speaking to the commissar: "the NAZIS are 40 kilometers in that direction, go and kill them". I don't see a navigator being of much use in those conditions. When you consider the rudimentary training give the pilots, would such a system have produced many skilled navigators? If it did, would these have been sacrificed in a lowly ground attack aircraft that did not need one? I think not. The IL2 was shot down often, because they fought a dangerous, well armed and capable enemy in the most dangerous conditions for any aircraft. As I said, you first need to understand the Soviet tactical doctrine.
@@mlynch001 You mean, commissar speaking to Ivan the pilot? I would imagine it would not bode well for the former since Ivan would immediately go to his squad leader with the question of why was political officer (placed there to read papers, popularize his party's ideas and recruiting to said party) giving him attack orders.
Also I'd like to note that despite being shot down frequently due to dangerous conditions, pilots often survived the crash landing. All in all, IL-2 filled the attack helicopter role in CAS.
I've always been interested in what the Soviet was using in WW2 for fighters, besides what they got from the allies. When I was in grade school I was super interested in the WW2 fighter planes in Europe and the Pacific, especially the Pacific...
The Yakovlev Yak-1, succeeded by the Yak-9, followed by the Yak-3 seems to have been the best design they fielded.
I also see a MiG-1 (which was apparently pretty bad) and a MiG-3 successor as interceptors.
The LaGG-1/3 were apparently the early versions of the La-5 and La-7, another major type.
The Polikarpov I-16 was innovative in the 1930’s but pretty dated by the time the war really got going.
Looks like they had quite a few very reasonable aircraft, though none as famous as the Il-2.
@@Justanotherconsumer I'm from Russia. You list common estimates, which to me, after many years of study, seem very controversial.
The MiG-3 produced 3,000, and it flew much earlier Yak, which is very, very important. Its production was stopped when the Germans approached the factory that assembled them. So the tale of a relatively unserviceable MiG is obviously made up, I suppose. That was the custom under Stalin, to make up fairy tales. It, like all airplanes hastily created after the 1937 shootings, was more like the real thing than it was. 3 thousand interceptors could do little and already Moscow was being defended by brit Hurricane and old I-16.
The Yak-1 was very poorly mastered, flew late, had poor stability at first. It had a canvas skin and veneer wings. Good for 1918.
A mediocre French style project: compare it with the Yugoslavian Rogožarski IK-3, which flew much earlier and had at least some chance of being ready in time for the war. But it didn't. That's it in a nutshell.
Amusing facts: Ilyushin is an old party member, Yakovlev is almost adopted by Stalin, son-in-law of the shot party secretary Rudzutak, Mikoyan is the younger brother of the Commissar, Gorbunov (the leader in LaGG) is the brother of the dead minister (the term is inaccurate for clarity).
I would hope there is enough interest to get more videos on the IL-2. You really do some fascinating and informative work.
Please more Soviet, Japanese, and Italian stuff! The fans are out there, great work again!
I liked the video please talk more about this plane. It's also interesting to hear about the intricacies and complications of the Soviet production methods and considering those, I'd say they did surprisingly well.
Greg your wonderfully detailed dives in to these aircraft is very appreciated regardless of the country of origin. I'm looking forward to more videos on the IL-1 thanks again as always.
0:23 You talked about the P-47 for FIVE whole episodes and we're still here, so go nuts and tell us everything!
Greg, I think the videos on Soviet planes are the most interesting ones you have made because of the fact that its hard to get information on them and they aren't as widely talked about. There are thousands upon thousands of accounts about the planes & the pilots involved in the air war over Western Europe/Pacific from 1942-1945. What i dont see talked about nearly as much is the Air War over the Eastern Front, Africa, and China/India/Burma Theaters and so for me any videos related to those topics are the ones that i get really excited to watch. In any case keep up the great work!
Side Note: Seeing you mentioning the Tu-4 in this video makes me interested in seeing you do a P-47/Ki-84 style series of videos on the 4 Engine Heavy Bombers produced by all the countries that ended up building such aircraft types. I know you made the video on the B-32 a couple months ago and i thought it was very cool
Great video. Very interesting about the pilot manuals. Looking forward to hearing more about the IL-2.
Many of us here are interested in all WWII aircrafts. Well researched and presented. We thank you Sir. 😎 🛬
We need more. Thanks Greg. multi part series is a GO
Greg, keep doing what you do. There are certainly many people who are interested in Soviet airplanes and their production under the Soviet regime (including me), but your videos are popular because YOU are interested in the material. Keep telling us about the stuff that interests you and we will keep watching.
Thanks for all the efforts you put into these videos! Would love to learn more about the IL-2.
Nice, finally some proper plane designed for war :D
Yes IL-2s with good pilots were able to hunt various aircraft with good success, but the issue is, that these pilots were not trained as fighter pilots, but as bomber/attack pilots and their orders were also mostly aimed on that. But there are many notes about IL-2 planes shredding various Ju52, Ju87 and also bombers.
Fascinating stuff, and really well presented! I'd definitely like to see more on this topic.
I think we need more videos about soviet aviation from unbiased authors. I would encourage you to make more!
That being said, in old IL-2 1946 sim we copied soviet tactics of splitting the flights: two planes would make ground attack run, two would cover from 1000m above. It was amazing how many german planes we would shoot down. Thach weave, also, worked nicely!
This video seems to have gotten a healthy number of views in the initial hours, so I hope you continue. I fell in love with the Russians and their planes in the context of IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad. (Trying to keep the faith despite current events under the Man Who Would be Emperor.)
The Sturmovik is an excellent example. You will probably cover this, but when they first realized they needed a rear gunner they simply cut a hole in the fuselage behind the cockpit, provided a strap for the gunner to sit on and a 12.7mm machine gun on an improvised mounting.
So there is old Yuri, sitting in the back flapping in the breeze with his MG, some spare ammo and a flask of vodka. (Note that I am inferring the flask of vodka from the AI gunner’s behavior in the game. Not a reliable source, necessarily.)
I was chased all the way back across the Kuban by an AI Bf-109 in a PvE mission once. Fortunately he seemed to be out of canon. Yuri in the back had run through his ammo without effect, just sat there watching the show and sipping his vodka, couldn’t even be bothered to call out the fighter passes. My right wing was so shredded by MG I had to hold full left stick to keep it level. The Bf-109 finally ran out of ammo or just gave up. Really proud of the landing on that one.
So, the Russians and their planes. Always kind of borderline insane from our western perspective and I hope you cover more of them.
Holy cow I didn't even know you could make an engine like this without counterweights on the crank shaft. It just seems like such an elemental and obviously thing to have, but at the same time I guess every innovation, even one that seems pretty obvious, has to be made that first time.
I'm also eager to hear how you could make such an engine rev...
Don't V8s and V12s have natural balance without counterweights?
Another excellent video, Greg. Personally, I don’t understand the lack of views or the hate comments. I’m a military aviation buff (prop & early jets) amongst other interests and the variety is nice and it’s educational as well. Thank you.
As a WWII aviation enthusiast I greatly value your deep-dives into the more obscure subjects. Soviet aviation, in general, is incredibly opaque and any successful research into the "sausage making" of soviet designs is appreciated.
Also, since hostile encounters were few (Though a few did happen) between US/British and Soviet aircraft, I'd appreciate some performance comparisons among the most popular types.
Thanks for your efforts.
like Yak-3 vs P-38, in the Airbattle over Niz (Jugoslavia)
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Yeah, the Americans indiscriminately bombed Serbian civilian infrastructure and murdered countless innocent people, often far away from any German military installations! They didn't follow the warnings issued by the Yugoslav leadership to immediately leave the Yugoslav air space and to totally avoid it in the future. This criminal negligence prompted the Yugoslav government to ask the Soviet Army (already present in Serbia) for help against the American & British onslaught, and that's how the confrontation over the city of Niš occurred.
Thank you for your hard work researching these and also for your fondness for primary sources. Honestly I don't care much which nation's aircraft you talk about -- each has an interesting story, even if it's just to learn what a fighting force deemed "a problem" and how a design team then came up with "a solution".
Speaking of solutions: I think the sleek nose has a big advantage in better visibility for the pilot. A thing like that has the potential to save lives, especially when the plane's low and slow (under relatively high angles of attack).
Would love to hear more on the Yak-1/9/3, which as far as I can tell was the best fighter the Soviets fielded.
The MiG-1 and MiG-3 story also seems interesting, though it doesn’t sound like it was an amazing airplane. They still built thousands of them though, so it can’t have been completely terrible.
I'm Russian. I have been studying aviation history for many years. I realized that the first few thousand tanks or planes into the garbage is the rule in the USSR. Yaks are like that too, and so are LaGGs and La-5s.
Almost was not like the Germans or the British: a few hundred were produced, but they were used a long time and intensively.
The most important quality of the Soviet AF is poor training of all services, but huge numbers. German pilots made many times more flights in training and combat. So, they tended to be more experienced, and beginners suffered.
Incredibly excited to see this posted. I would love to see you cover more soviet aircraft in the future, greg! Thanks as always for the fantastic content.
Another solid video. Love your ability to provide information at an easy-to-consume pace.
Nice to see you return to this after discussing the swirl throttle so many years ago!
This is the best video on any Soviet VVS airplane that I've ever seen. Yakovlev, in his book, ( Aim Of A Lifetime, I think) says that when copying the B-29, a seemingly random hole that was found in a bulkhead was replicated in every single Tu-4 that they built because Stalin ordered an "exact copy". As someone said, they had a rather dynamic zero-defects policy.
Thats the funniest shit i have ever heard.
I think I have it as “notes of an aircraft designer”. In reality, because Soviet industry worked with different alloys and gauges, every single piece of the B-29 had to be analysed and then redesigned for Soviet manufacture. They put their own engines, radios and guns in as well, abandoned integral fuel tanks for flexible bag tanks, and reworked the design of the bomb bays.
@@emmanuelgustin7851 I got my copy from Major Uri Orin, Military Attache. The problem with anything the Soviets handed out, was their total lack of credibility. That's why I posted the source with the comment. There's no way to know who wrote it or why.That's why I love this channel. Someone will comment who actually knows.
@@paddy1952 I find no mention of the Tu-4 in Yakovlev’s autobiography; it must be a different book. Interestingly enough Yakovlev wrote that he managed to convince Stalin that copying the Me 262 would be a bad idea. (To the detriment of Sukhoi, whose early Su-9 looked a lot like it.) He skirts around the fact that early Soviet jet engines as used in the Yak-15 were copies of German engines, despite the pioneering work of Lyulka in the 1930s. Interesting book but Yakovlev was an agile man - alone of the major Soviet designers, he was never jailed by Stalin - and his autobiography is probably more self-serving than most.
@@emmanuelgustin7851 It's completely possible that I've confused his book with another, or it was a different edition. My Soviet aircraft phase of life was a few decades ago. I've been looking through the book pile but haven't found it so far.
Would love to see more of these. There’s been a recent shift into baseless revisionism of Soviet gear due to recent political events, particularly around, ahem, tanks but it’s been appearing everywhere. It’s nice to see some of us still value data and historiography.
I am very interested in seeing more Il-2 videos. You've obviously done a lot of prep work, it would be a shame to not present it.
Greg saying he'll have to do multiple parts on the IL-2: "Oh no!" (I said, smiling widely)
A big fan of the IL-2. Love to see a full series.
Fantastic as ever. I'm really interested to learn more, especially on its air-to-air performance. I'm guessing its pilot training had something to do with that one, along with the Soviet system which encouraged a suicidal degree of stay-in-your-lane-ism. At least in the Il-2 game, it turns like a pig even when empty and has a relatively low top speed, though these are factors that would be less significant in a night fighter / bomber destroyer role. In the game, I have managed to stand it on its wingtip and splash a pursuing Bf109 with cannon fire, but whether your typical Soviet pilot could have done that is a different question.
Thanks for giving the IL-2 some love. I look forward o enjoying the follow up vids.
The different strokes lengths in each bank of the AM-34, 35, & 38 series is weird. Why and how? What's an articulated connecting rod? Fascinating! The amount I learn from every one of your videos is amazing.
Great intro Greg, really enjoyed this and would love to see you do more on the IL2 and other Russian aircraft of WW2
Please do continue the series!
Soviet era mythology claimed this aircraft had some kind of unique and highly successful armor design, so it would be very interesting to know how true that was (or not).
Also any word about the actual 'flyability' would be much appreciated.
So nice to get videos from you on that legendary aircraft! I noticed flying soviet planes on the Il-2 great battle sim, that you can let the rpm and throttle a lot higher for a much longer time than on allied planes, is it because they could not get the extra power on those engines, therefore less risking to damage it? Hope my sentences in englisg makes sens, I'm french.😅 Btw is it possible that one day you might produce something about french aviation? Anything from WW1 to cold war would be amazing to see! And if you want, I have some original unpublished picture from the trials of the prototypes of early french jets, ouragan, mystère and vautour! My grand father was an engineer in developing those. I'd be honored to supply those! Thanks for the amazing content!
I wasn't aware you covered Soviet machines, nice!. LOVE the idea of doing a whole series on the IL2!.
Great video Greg - thanks for producing this kind of quality information! I look forward to seeing more when you get it ready!
Really enjoyed the book "Red star vs the Swastika" by Vasily B. Emelianenko veteran IL-2 pilot. Would recommend it to anyone who wants to know what the first hand experience was flying the IL-2 in combat on the eastern front.
Please do more on the IL2!! Such a strange and interesting aircraft, unusual new territory which is why I love your channel so much in the first place!
The next video will be about the Il2.
Would love to see you cover Sturmovik in depth.
Would you cover Yak3 and La7? The two pinnacles of Soviet ww2 fighter design...
Also the fast Pe2 and Tu2 twin engine bombers...
Thus together with il2...these are the cornerstones of ww2 soviet aviation...
As a user of the IL-2 sim since 2001 this video got my immediate attention. 🙂
Please do more on this plane. BTW the one in the Flying Heritage and Combat Armor Museum in Everett, WA has a left-hand Allison engine. When it was flown during Paul Allen.s life, it was handled very gently, supposedly because of the fragile wooden rear fuselage parts.
I’ll watch every video you make about aircraft, and its interesting to hear you compare the different countries airplanes manuals
This video was great! I'd be happy to see more like it.
another astounding, informative video from Greg! So to get German pilots to think about the approach and attack angles on an enemy aircraft...
German WWII flight manuals showed cartoon illustrations of a (mostly) naked temptress? ONLY GREG gets that in the weeds!
Please post more about this plane! I've always loved it, hopefully this gets a good amount of views
I rarely if ever comment on videos but I love your videos and hope this comment drives engagement! You and drachinifel are my 2 favorite creators, I'm not sure how I'd pass the time at work without you guys haha.
My top three favorite planes of this time period are the P38, IL2 and finally the JU87.
Please! Do more on this subject. It is fascinating.
Everything that follows is from memory. Sorry I don't recall the source book.
Stalingrad. A German soldier at Gumrak airbase. He is guarding Russian prisoners. He's got a rifle. They have shovels. They are digging trenches.
An IL-2 appears and attacks. The Russians dive in the hole. The German dives in on top of the Russians. He is looking up into the air and describes the action.
The IL-2 passed overhead. Everyone was firing at it. Sparks were flying off the armored belly in a line from the front to the back of the aircraft.
"It looked like someone took a welding torch and dragged it along the belly of the plane. Showers of sparks just flying ."
I distinctly remember that final line. It gave me a good visual.
Please, Greg.
Please finish this series.
The Il2 is said to have had the largest production run of any aircraft, please carry on with this series because this aircraft really does need better documentation.
I am doing just that.
Burying the radiator inside the armored tub was genius! I kept wondering where the thing was as I looked at the photos...
I went into this expecting some really, really detailed tangent and I. Wasn't disappointed, welcome to manuals 101.
I enjoy all of your videos. The videos on Russian aviation are among the most interesting,because I know less about them than I do about the other nationalities.
One more vote for more content on the IL-2 here. As a non-engineer “engine guy” I find your description of this engine fascinating… I mean, articulating connecting rods? How the heck would that work? Let’s talk some more about this!
A full description is coming in the next video. As an engine guy, I don't think you will like it, it certainly seems like a bad idea to me.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I suspicion you are correct.
Would love more about Soviet planes!
Great video. Looking forward to the rest of the series on the IL-2/10!
Thanks Greg for the video. Hope you can continue the series. Was surprised about the number of this comic style pictures in the manual. Definetely something from another era.
Still have the Il-2/Il-10 book by Y. Gordon in the bookshelf from the famous soviet/russian aircraft series. Have a great day.
That was awesome, looking forward to part 2!
Hi Greg, I just wanted to pop in and say that I don’t always agree with the conclusions, but the data you post and the references are the best on the internet, and even if I don’t always agree 100% with the conclusions I love the fact it’s coming from an extremely experienced industry professional (your opinion is about as well informed as it gets, and I consider you an expert on historical aviation). I also love the fact you’re always looking for more information in the comments section, to me it shows you aren’t narcissistic about your opinion and probably have excellent CRM.
Also, I’d love to see more car videos, and maybe some cold war jet analysis.
Cheers.
Thanks drewski. Consider this, with the number of videos I have, and the amount of content in them, I wouldn't expect anyone to agree with all my conclusions.
20:28 I like Yefim's books very much. Not only he and his partners were capable of digging info on soviet aircraft that was unavailable to western authors, but there is not shortage of it in his books. In fact, I had not find a single book on a western fighter, that have the same amount of technical info on the subject as Yefim's books. For example, his books on the MiG-25 and Su-27 are eye watering on the amount of details they contain. I wish I could find something similar on the F-14.
I’ve always been fascinated with the IL-2. Very interesting intro. Looking forward to further vids.
Hi Greg. I sometimes take part in archeology works in Russia, picking up planes lost in ww2. I saw the con rods you are talking about. I can try and find a photo for you. In words, one of the con rods of a pair is connected to a crankshaft, the other con rod has a kind of fork on its lower end, which connects to the first con rod via pin which is parallel to pistons pin
This is one of my favourite youtube channels.
Soviet aviation in the early days of their country is very fascinating. Seeing the limitations that was placed by their government and lack of infrastructure provided to these designers made their efforts much more extraordinary.
General thanks to you Greg for not using AI generated voice in your videos!!
Yes please, more soviet aircraft. Here's a state/force solving the same problems with different sets of constraints, you do a great job of teasing those things out. Cheers!
Greg,
I watch your videos with a unique respect and admiration. Because I remember in university doing research papers with dread at their often cumbersome requirements.
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Nice job!
Thanks.
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Don't stop.
There is a need for this, rounding out your inventory of WW2 aircraft representation.
and many of us find the unique Russian equipment fascinating. Aircraft, Tanks, all of it.
Super video and much appreciated here Greg. It's an important AC and different -enough said!
Please do make a series on the IL-2. And any other WWII Soviet planes you find interesting.
Excellent! Always a pleasure, Greg!
I appreciate all of the effort you put into producing a video like this one, with its added challenges. Any WWII aircraft is worth investigating because they are all about how humans solve problems that involve complex issues. You always give us insight into a bigger picture than just the encyclopedia numbers about weight, armaments, airspeed, etc. Thank you, and yes, I would like to see more videos on the IL-2.
so much learning in so little time! Thank you! I hope you do more on the Il 2
I have a second video on the plane, and a third will be up soon.
Definitely looking forward to more videos on the IL-2. Apart from the Yaks, this is probably the most well-know Soviet Era warplane from World War II.
If anyone wants to know how the US finally got to the A-10 Thunderbolt II (aka Warthog), I believe it started with here with the Soviets.
Don’t get the hate for Soviet equipment episodes, love to hear more about them. Must be from those who kneel at the altar of the main stream media.
love the comparison on Soviet material as a Patreon
Excellent video, thank you. And yes, the IL-2 is very interesting. I first flew the sim 21 years ago.
Yes! Please more Il-2!
Awesome Video Greg Thank You For Your Hard Work on Putting Together These Amazingly Informative Videos 😀😊😎😀😊👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Yes please, definitely interested in more on this aircraft.
Always down for more Soviet aviation.