HAND TOOL HANGOUT - Ep.1 - Record 044 Plough Plane
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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In this new series, we will be spending some time 'hanging out' in the shop, with some really cool hand tools. Some of these tools are really unique and rare, and some will be tools that are common but function in an optimal way. In either case, we will have a lot of fun!
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Kyle Noseworthy - Weiderfan
Hey Kyle, ya I went out to my shop and found it. it's a plow plane of sort. all it says on it is
( made in the USA ). guess the MFG wasn't proud of it or something ????? on eBay there is one just like it but it's a. STANLEY. it has a fence and one iron plus the hold down. the front area is set up the same as the rear part of the plane. but no iron/blade setup for the front. I'd send you photos but don't know how on a UA-cam reply area.. if I can get a way to contact you I'll shoot you some pictures. thanks man for the interest in it. take care now !!!!!!!!!
I'd love some pictures! Send em' to weiderfan.business@gmail.com !! What you're describing sounds like a rabbeting plane
Kyle Noseworthy - Weiderfan
Ya I believe that it is called a Duplex Rabbet plane. The blade is too wide for a Tenon plane. eBay has a couple nice ones but as often as I use one $100.00 would not be a wise investment although it's cool !!!! I'll get some pictures over to you a bit later. Thanks for the interest. ....
Thanks mate, I could not work out what I was doing wrong with the 44 until I watched your video. Nice clear instructions!
If you have the fence on the left hand side the plane can be steadied with the left hand. That is what the bow in it if for. You start the plane at the end rather than the beginning so you make a groove for the plane to run in. I have used one of these for over 30 years and they are great. Obviously, if you are left handed, put the fence on the right.
Dave.
Looks u have experienced this plane a lot sir , so I have a quick question , isn't this plane have a blade for making tunge ??
all the cutters come with it are straight ??
@@athmostafa2462 No, I do have one in work that did have a tongue cutter with it. This one doesn't have one. You can do tongues with this but you would have to do a rebate either side of your timber giving you a tongue that is a clearance size for one of the cutters. I am not working at present so cannot get the plane to see what it is. I know it is made by Stanley and it has a wooden inlayed handle instead of the steel one. I think it is a Stanley 55 but I wouldn't swear to it.
Stay safe my friend,
Dave.
@@davesheppard8797 thanks 👍
@@athmostafa2462 You are most welcome Sir! 👍👍
The reason the plane is hard to hold upright is because the fence goes on the other side of the plane if you're a "righty". The left hand's only job is to hold the fence against the face of the wood. The right hand's job is to push the plane. Love the plane, and the video. I'm looking for one myself. Thanks for sharing!
Just got a Record 044. I need to make it a nice box as well. Great video!
Great video. Thx from California. 👍
I love my 044! Thank you for the idea to build a box for it.The stability will improve once you move the fence to the other side and add a piece of wood. Note the relief in the fence, it is there to allow the cutting iron to be placed tight to, or past the fence for rebating. I will send you some photos of the complete user manual this evening.
Good Job! I have the record 043 and the 044. The 044 is a bit more comfortable to use but both are worth having. Extremely well made planes.
I finally found a matching pair of late model Stanley side rebate planes. These make final fitment a joy as the record uses fixed width cutters.
I have several vintage woodworking machines by Oliver, porter faye etc.
But when it comes to doing final work on a nice one off project, my weapon of choice is the hand tool!!!
Planes of various sorts just give you the tact and control you need for fine work.
Very nice video. I have many Record planes and the 044 is one of the most liked and useful.
I love its simplicity!
Just purchased this exact plane. Can't wait to try it out.
“ Hand Tool Hang-out “ 😁 I LIKE it !! Totally cool man ! Can I say one thing? When on your return stroke, if you lift the blade up a bit so it doesn’t drag, it will stay sharp longer.
One of the best tools you've got in your collection. Deserves a box made and a special place. Looking forward to the series!
I agree man, a treasure for sure. Think the box is adequate? Or needs something nicer in time?
Kyle Noseworthy - Weiderfan , some day you may want to make a special tool box. Fitted for certain tools. A big project though for sure. I dunno
Beautiful. I've never even held one before, let alone use one! I had actually thought that they were far more complicated than what it appears. Good video, I'm looking forward to the new series.
Pretty cool eh? I think it's an awesome tool, capable of so much. Glad you're looking forward to this series Chad. I have some fun ideas. No real particular order to the series, but will include use, history, sharpening, restos, etc! Should be fun.
Great video I’ve just been looking at these on eBay and a lot of them have the added wood, nice to see it in a tion
You've got the fence mounted on the right side for a lefty...turn it round so the fence is on the left side...that way, you can apply side pressure with your left hand and eliminate the wobble problem
Beautiful old piece my friend! I know very little about these sorts of tools so I'm excited to watch the series and learn a thing to two!
Hand tools are so fun Ryan. There is so much to learn, and it really isn't that expensive to start your own collection!
I have an 043 which is smaller than the 044 and I just love that thing for groves for box bottoms and lids.
Thanks!!
I have to check that one out! Very cool!
Well done kyle! cutting TnG with a combo plane is very satisfying eh, love the hand tool hangout idea, cant wait to see whats next! Keep the awesome videos coming and thanks for sharing.
It is very satisfying for sure! Thanks for watching Mr. H! The videos will continue! :-)
Like many others, I noted that your fence is on the wrong side. Or perhaps the non-preferred side. You refer to Paul Sellers so I suggest you check his book Essential Hand tools page 235 where you will find a photograph of how the plane is normally set up. This is also shown in the book Planecraft, hand planing by modern methods on pages 122 and 123.
Give it a try and you should find it easier to control. If you prefer your set up and it works for you, then stick with it.
That's constructive comment, I thought the video was clear and well done.
I was given a plane like that.years ago. I'll have to go look an see if it's the same one or not ???? just picked up a Stanley # 4 #5 & #6 plane last week. got a order in on a couple real nice draw knifes, hopefully I will get them in the next few days, lots of restore work coming up.
Ya hand tool time/ hangout is a great idea !!!!!!!! keep e'm coming !!!!! Always looking for more information on older tooling. way cool !!!!!!!
That's exciting RR! I do love a good resto! Did you find out about your plough plane yet? what model it is?
Kyle Noseworthy - Weiderfan
OK up date doing some checking I've come to learn it's a
Duplex Rabbet plane. Can't find any makers mark but it appears to be all there according to some pictures on ebay. There are some nice ones for $60.00 & up on ebay. One still in the box. Take care see ya on the next show. !!!
Great job. Thanks.
great looking tool,nice job on that join.
Thanks Wallace!
If you mount the fence on the correct side, you can use the depth stop too.
also you hold the fence to get a straight cut hope this helps you friend
I seen one at an antique shed sale today in Northern Arm NL. The guy wanted $60. It was in good shape. Wish I bought it now
If in good shape, and blades included, that was a nice deal!
I didn’t see the blades but he said he had them. It was in great shape imo
Awesome tool!!
Thanks Jim!
Could you do a video on how you made the leather pouch?
I bought one of these today 😁 £40 not sure if that's a good price but I liked it
WOW soooo cool!!!
Was about to sell one on ebay (Marples) but after this video I reakon on keeping it.
Is the all cutters straight ? I didn't see all yours ?? 🤔
Can you cut rabbets with the 44?
That helps alot thank u keep it up
Thanks Aaron! Did yours arrive yet?
you got your fence on the wrong side kyle it goes on other side try it please you will be a lot better off and your depth stop needs turning back to front . Pete in the UK.
Hey Chris, I know to hold the fence, but I'm pretty sure the fence can go on either side, without making a real difference. In the case of putting a tongue and groove in a 10" board, you can only do it by having the fence how I have it here. I use both sides, however is best at the time.
I didn't realize the depth stop was backwords. Thanks! :-)
No - Chris is correct and you have it on the wrong side. there is a cutout on the fence that aligns with the blade.
@@kyle_noseworthy My Record 44 came with two dedicated grove irons which makes the job a breeze! i Need to use the fence on the other side in order to be able to line up the tongue and the grove irons accurately though!
Hope this helps! Great video series, keep it up!
I meant two dedicated tongue irons along with the grove irons!
Is it possible to use this plane to make rebates? thank you.
Where is the casting number on your Record 044 it should be just in front of the depth gauge, between the word Record and the number 044??????
I'm not sure that I noticed one!
Wrangelstar would love that plane
Ivan, I'm not giving it to him! haha I have seen people give him amazing old tools, but I'm not that generous! :-P
Kyle Noseworthy - Weiderfan haha!
That is a very nice tool , you must be gettin a nice collection of old hand tools now
Kyle Noseworthy - Weiderfan - yah! Let him get his own . Heheheh someone might send you tools when you’re a billion subs like him ! Hey
Perhaps I could send you one of my extra 45s 46s or 55s! But then youd have a new favorite plane! Love your enthusiasum...keep them coming.
Yea but having a argument about it but l will get it sort brought a vintage 1 and came totally out of order
What do you mean, 'out of order'? That sounds bad!
Kyle Noseworthy - Weiderfan it come and rusty like hell and the screw heads was snap of and in picture it like alot like urs it was same make as urs so l was gutted
terrible! hope you get it straightened out!
Kyle Noseworthy - Weiderfan yea me 2 but l can't wait to play with it with daughter and u do a really simple video on how to set a plane the right way and easy sharpening tips in them
Enjoy! I bet you will have a blast. I use a little plane sharpening guide I bought on amazon to get the edge perfectly square! Removes the guess work and human error!