10 Times Doctor Who Gave Fans EXACTLY What They Wanted
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
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Actually, having Christopher Eccleston turn down the 50th anniversary special was a good thing for the plot. John Hurt's War Doctor was actually a better plot filler, and his character worked better as the War Doctor with his advanced aging through the hundreds of years he spent, and actually represented the "father figure" Doctor that had been missing since Hartnell.
As much as I'd have loved having Chris back, I'll forever be grateful to Steven Moffat for giving us John Hurt as a secret War Doctor incarnation. In just 70 minutes, he cemented himself as one of the most profound, impactful, and soulful Doctors in history. Having it be not only a Doctor we didn't know about 'push the button', but also one played by an actor of legendary status not only works for the timeline but actually improves it in my personal opinion. Nine's, Ten's and Eleven's arcs all still work perfectly despite them being written before the War Doctor's arc.
Agreed. Chris (or Paul McGann) would've been great but, the War Doctor was a wonderful addition. It, also, had the added bonus of giving Moffat an excuse to address the Doctor's regeneration limit which, as an old-school fan, he knew they were getting close to. By introducing the War Doctor and officially establishing the Meta-Crisis 10th Doctor as a full regeneration (which people had already been arguing over), he was able to instantly bump the 11th Doctor up to the pre-established regeneration limit so, he could deal with that plotline for the 11th Doctor's last episode.
I'm sure Moffat was grateful to be the showrunner dealing with that storyline. It is one of those things that would've been very easy for your average showrunner to ignore, since it hadn't really been mentioned within the modern era, but would've created a plothole that would really annoy old-school fans (since Moffat is a fan, himself, he knew it was something that deserved to be acknowledged within the series).
Also if they made 9 it would likely have retconned series 1
@@warrenny1168 I don't think it would have retconned anything. It's known that the original plan RTD had was that McGann's Doctor was the Doctor who fought in the Time War, and that when we see Eccleston it's shortly after regenerating post-Time War. The retcon is the addition of John Hurt between them, but it's one that works very well.
@@DrKnockers05 The War Doctor came after 8 and before 9 though?
One of my favourite lines, and one that still makes me chuckle, is that delightful moment from the 50th when 10 and 11 are using their sonics on the time hole. "There's two of us. I'm reversing and you're reversing it back. We're confusing the polarity!" Never fails.
This is, of course, closely followed a little later in the very same episode where 11 states, "We may have had our differences, which is frankly odd in the circumstances..." And he's right. The same basic person always butting head. I don't now if it is simply a clash of dominant personalities, or if anyone, placed in the same room with another version of themselves, would automatically be annoyed by themselves. I suspect yes.
Both David Tennant and Peter Capaldi are fans who became the Doctor. Capaldi wrote a letter to the Radio Times and was published aged 15 and Tennant recalled standing in a queue at WH Smith's in his home town as a teenager to have a book signed by Tom Baker.
Watching Tennant and Smith together, reminds me of Troughton and Pertwee together in The Three Doctors, plus in the scenes with John Hurt's War Doctor, they get told off as William Hartnell's Doctor did to the second and third regeneration.
We need to see the “have we done Jim the Fish?” Adventure.
Something tells me that Ellie didn't need a script for River's speech and knew it off by heart
Love her!!
you would be correct 😆
Ellie high key begging for River’s return.
…mayyyyybe 😅
Can we get more Paul McGann? I thought he was a tremendous Doctor even in a shady movie. Night Of The Doctor showed him roaring at his best.
Definitely need more of him, his doctor has seen some stuff we need to see 🙏
@@FeedMeNuggies My number one request as well. Maybe another Time War reference as well, much of how it started and continued was left out.
He was meant for the doctor other then Tom baker
He's amazing in audio stories too. Honestly he's up there as one of my favourites.
Agreed. He was phenomenal
"It wasn't relevant to the plot."
Cut to his cameo breaking Thirteen out of the Dalek prison. Suddenly his appearance made a lot more sense.
Honourable mention to Paul McGann in Night of the Doctor... although he had already been working with Big Finish for many years by that point!
If/when Ecclenston comes back to the show - they should have The Doctor unknowingly put their arm around a wax figure of him first - in reference (reverence?) to how Tom Baker declined to participate in the 20th Anniversary Celebrations, yet photo sessions were still held with his wax figure standing in for him 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I remember talking about Captain Jack returning on Discord for weeks before he showed back up. I literally got laughed at. Folk just couldn't imagine it. I had to pause the episode to breathe when I heard his voice, it was amazing.
Tom Baker was the Doctor when I was a teenager. Anything involving him was fan service to me. He was magic. I think the Doctors after him had a very tough act to follow. Especially Sylvester because his series hinted at epic stories the show couldn't deliver on it's budget. I think that's what killed the show. The writers were capable of giving the fans what they wanted but couldn't on budget. Thankfully it's back and better than ever.
He WAS Dr. Who to me. I didn't realize, as a child, there were others. 😄
Yup. We'd occasionally get episode on PBS in the states when I was growing up. My dad loved it so we watched together sometimes. My first, and until 2005 only, Doctor Who experience was with the 4th Doctor and Sara Jane. So, when she showed up later I got stupid excited. Then the cameo of Baker as the curator **kiss** loved it.
I even remember watching the BBC's Narnia series. He played Puddleglum and that was just another prominent Tom Baker memory for me.
yup Baker MADE Dr Who for North America ... and moved the show from britain to the world ... from a slow simmer to front element hard boil ... then eventually we go Dr Dora the explorer with a tardis ... she IS the worst version ... if she lasted any longer there would be no more show she was killing it that quickly with her eco explorer themed show complete with monkey and little kiddie back pack ...
Such a shame that the Tom Baker curator character didn't offer The Doctor a jelly baby.
Truly would have been the icing on top
Thanks for the ride down memory lane -- always pleasant. Agreed! River Song can be in as many episodes as possible as far as I'm concerned.
When during the 50th , the three doctors were in the Tower of London and were trying to figure out how to unlock the door. Only for it to not be lock was a favorite scene of mine
"Three of you and none of you thought to try the door?" lol
I hope we do get to see The 10th Doctor and The 14th Doctor join Forces in the 60th Anniversary
As a fan of Classic Who, I loved any moments of story revealing more of the interior of the Tardis. Sadly, accepting what was budgeted for Invasion of Time was still great at the time. Not to mention more interior shots during Tom and Peter’s eras. I really wish more writers would show more. Even more of other Tardises like the Master’s and Rani’s were brilliant moments. Even Shada!
That whole full circle with River still gets me in the feels!!
Would love to see the 8th and 9th back again for a full story. They each deserve to shine once more.
Tegan is my absolute favorite, so I am ready! And Ace deserved a return!
I think we'll see McGann come back, just a gut feeling... maybe I'm being too optimistic!
All of these're good, but I'll get what I want when they have the Valeyard. Like the Master says in "The Trial of a Time Lord," the Doctor is supposed to regen into the Valeyard sometime "between the 12th and final incarnation."
Well, then, we’ve got a bit of a wait before we see the Doctor’s “final regeneration”, don’t we?
Grab your snacks and settle in.
I interpret that as being the “other” version of David Tennant post-“The Waters of Mars” (before Adelaide Brooke restored what she could of the original timeline).
The Time Lord Victorious=The Valeyard.
The world can’t resist a bit of Eleven and the Ten-Inch!
They were and always will be the 2 most fan favourite and the best doctors ever there screen presence is just something else they were made to be in doctor who.
ah, thank you for reminding me of all this, now you have inspired me to continue watching all the classic who season which i still have lots to go as i just started on Tom Bakers doctor
I must confess, when watching the 50th anniversary special, I liked John Hurt's portrayal of the "War Doctor". I think Hurt would have made a good Doctor Who if he ever got the chance to do a couple of seasons.
considering his age, no. He was in his 70's at the time
Would have still been better than what we got@@julieeverett7442
I want a lot more than just 10 & Donna for the 60th. It’s the 60th anniversary special, not the 15th anniversary of series 4. Include more of the history, even if it’s just cameos like classic companions coming back as flashbacks in The Five Doctors
You expected much from modern RTD
My favorite call back reference was David Tennant with "Are you my mummy?" With the gas mask on lol
“I’m a doctor, but probably not the one you’re expecting”
At the end of Logopolis and the beginning of Castrovalva, lots of the TARDIS interior was featured in the stories
The 12th doctors eyebrows in the day of the doctor
This is the best video about doctor who that I've seen since your last video about doctor who. Keep up the good work!
Enjoying your compilations, and just have to say the cameo by Tom Baker in Day of the Doctor was for me about as good as it will ever get. :)
AMEN and HALLELUJAH!!
The thing about river song is that she is still in the computer in the largest library in the universe, he's just never visited her or at least not on screen
I have hopes that The Metacrisis Doctor will be in the 60th
Wow. When you described #3 (the Tom Baker cameo---"Gallifrey falls no more"), my heart leapt in my chest at that same 'satisfying relief' I felt watching the original series and coming to that conclusion. Amazing writing by RTD & Co., but with a generous boost from your wonderful retelling! Thank you!
Biggest fan service if it ever happened: River and Jack in one episode xD
in my opinion River Song was the best Charakter in the Show beside the Incarnation wich was played by Peter Capaldi
every dr who fan: waiting for ncuti gatwa
me: hoping for more of the neverending drumbeat with the arrival of ncuti
I will never not cry when the doctor brought river to Derilium. :(
Right before I watched Day/Time of the Doctor - I said “it’d be cool if the doctor met one of his past regenerations”
River Song needs her own spin-off.
I'd agree about #1 on your list! - And that The Five Doctors made it onto the list. Yes and the Journey to the centre of the TARDIS. Also agree we want more of River Song, maybe Captain Jack... and Christopher Eccleston's Doctor. Actually I'd like to see Clara appearing at more points in the Doctor's timeline - again! And the Doctor's daughter. Or all the fan-favourite new-Who actors (Doctors, companions and a few other 'heroes and villains') (and writers?) all appearing on a Doctor Who documentary/convention/chat show/whatever and all talking about their characters, adventures and behind-the-scenes 'stuff'. That might be more fan-pleasing than any episode or movie(!)
You BET I was in tears when Tom first spoke.
Having Adric crash into Earth and bite the dust - exactly what the fans wanted.
Cruel.
True, but cruel.
Savage 😆
I'm just feeling lucky to see 10+11 together!
You forget to also add in #1. Besides Tennent and Smith meeting, the casting of the late Sir John Hurt has also made the 50th anniversary special both special and gave it a bigger mystique(introduction of a unknown incarnation).
Yes, bring back River Song! Pretty please? That would be awesome! Jodie's doctor introducing her wife to Yas it would be painfull, but intriguing!
I liked 13 said a line of 9s when she met Dan. "Nice to meet you Dan ...run for your life!"
Great callback to Eccleston!
With the return of The Master in Utopia, the return of Davros in The Stolen Earth, and the reveal of Ruth’s true identity in Fugitive Of The Judoon, Revolution Of The Daleks is basically the only story to bring back Captain Jack without also bringing back a far more prominent character, and even there, the show saw fit to reintroduce Jack Robertson.
Not sure whether I'm in the majority or minority here but I just want more of Jenny. Preferably played again by Georgia Moffett but really at this point I'd take any of her possible regenerations. And no need for her to be back full time either. Showing up here and there like River did would be fine, as long as we get more of The Doctor and Jenny's family interaction.
I know RTD said she died off-screen right after the credit rolled but with him returning and this never being confirmed on-screen I truly hope he change his mind and bring her back. Plus, with her being a clone of The Doctor, she'd most likely be whatever species "The Timeless Child" is instead of being Gallifreyan so they could use her character to expand on that storyline. Maybe use her as a way to show what exactly an unrestricted member of that species can do without changing The Doctor's abilities too much.
Didn't they do an audio series or something with her coming back?
@@ChristopherMMD There's a series of comics where she met other incarnations of her father (or mother, she met 13th) and I think there's a few audio book about her but I don't think either are canon. And while I did love the very few audio books I've listen to and I plan on eventually getting the comics, it not really the same thing as seeing it happen on-screen.
"no sir, all thirteen" is the greatest moment in who history.
ANGRY EYEBROWS
14 actually ... 13 faces ... and 12 as one didnt do stuff in the name of the doctor
I agree with all there places except no 2 and no 8 which in my opinon should be swapped.
I remember watching the 50th and grining ear to ear seeing 10th and 11th interact and see tom baker return as the curator.
"Hello" ......The episode that got me BACK into Dr Who. 11th Dr. The episode where the heart of the TARDIS was put into a woman.....and The Doctor & The TARDIS got to talk......and say..."Hello". That is not the name of that episode. But I LOVE this story! Was written & performed SO perfectly. It got me BACK.....to Dr Who!!!💔💘💝💖💗
What do you think is the most fan-pleasing Doctor Who moment?
The Doctor going back to visit Susan like he promised... oh wait 🙃
Jack returning
Easily basically any moment in the 50th. Either seeing John hurt as the doctor, 11 and 10 together, ALL THE DOCTORS saving Gallifrey or my personal favourite Tom Baker and Matt Smith’s series changing conversation.
Paul McGann in Night of the Doctor, some of the best 7 minutes of Doctor Who ever.
The Tom Baker curator scene is my all-time favorite.
River Song is very easy to bring back because her timeline is so out of wack that they could just easily slip a new River episode in her timeline.
I absolutely adore 9th Doctor and it makes me so happy Christopher decided to give it a go again, even if it's only in a form of audio.
Imagine if Eccleston came back on screen in as cool a manner as McGann did. 😎😎😎😎😎
I have only one sadness about the day of the doctor- that the eight doctor was not the war doctor. This is not to say that John Hurt, may he Rest In Peace, did not do a great job, but it would be cool to have more with him.
I would lile to see ecelston or magan in the 60th i think it would be interesting seeing how they would interact with 10
You forgot to include Tom Baker’s comment from the ‘Day of The Doctor’ when he says, “I never forget a face. (Curator:) I know you don't. And in years to come, you might find yourself revisiting a few. But just the old favorites, eh?” It’s an important part of the ‘Power of The Doctor’. (If you haven’t seen it yet, I’m not going to spoil it for you.) 📺😉
Im obsessed with these videos, I have even restarted watching the New Doctor Who's again. I can not wait for the 60th Celebration episode.
Totally spot on. Well done.
Tom Baker's return: as soon as I heard The Voice, I burst into tears&laughter. My partner paused the show, thinking I'd hurt myself (was doing some mending). Partner said...let me run it back...and promptly gave me the OMG face upon hearing The Voice.
what kills me is 10 and 11 discussing the holes in the TARDIS and Tenant upon seeing Matt's version makes the funniest face with Matt's response being too cute...
To see the Tardis as a person and her chemistry with 11 in ‘the doctor’s wife’ was really epic too!!
You missed a repeated line it’s a small one but “are you my mummy” from the empty child gets a nice reference in the episode The Sontaran Stratagem
Night of the Doctor also deserves a mention
All of these were fandamnedtastic! You did miss the later return of Jack, when he rescues #14, though.
The Doctor and River... dayum, re-watching _Silence in the Library_ and _Forest of the Dead_ kick my arse a thousand times harder after knowing the ending in _The Husbands of River Song!_ That one, to me, is probably the #1 spot in this list.
Or - OR - one you didn't mention, the first one where #12 Peter Effing Capaldi's Doctor was the President of the World, the story that many people poo-poo, the Zygon Invasion/Inversion, simply because of THE best speech ever done by the Doctor, EVER.
People in the comments are mentioning Paul McGann. To me, the War Doctor was basically McGann's incarnation aged a whole, whole lot, sort of like Smith's on Trenzalore. That's _my_ headcanon,_ right or wrong.
Great collection, so here's a like and comment for the Almighty Algorithm!
Duuuuuuuude
If he comes back for the 60th my brain is going to explode. THAT would be absolutely amazing!
Moffat: *does 50th anniversary special with Ten and Eleven*
RTD: Hold my beer.
I can't wait to see the 60th Anniversary special! It's going to be EPIC!
I loved this video. Thank you.
💙💙
I have happy memories of watching The Three Doctors in 1973. 😎
the story was during some strike so tom baker as the doc, explored the tardis extensivley there were external shots in that episode, which made the inside of the tardis seem infanate to me. the more modren one seemed enclosed and dark, to me it seemed much smaller. but i wore out that vidieo a long time ago
to this day, from watching it on the beeb when it was aired at first, i can not offer someone a jelly baby without doing a tom baker impersonation in my head.
I have always been fascinated by the TARDIS from back at the beginning to the present day, and I have to say that I'm sure there's way more to it than we saw in "Journey to the Center of the TARDIS."
Giving us John Hurt as the War Doctor was giving us exactly what we wanted....we just didn't know we wanted it until then.
I guess we can now include the regeneration from the power of the doctor
In one of the early explorations of the TARDIS, there is a scene of the exterior of an old brick building as part of the machine. That helped me to understand what the TARDIS actually was, an ancient and evolving device, originally housed in a building that was permanently set somewhere while the Blue Box would do all the "Traveling". Although this was shown to be wrong in other episodes, (The Zero Room), I liked the idea and kept it. So much of the TARDIS is trans-dimensional and not permanent, that its very beginning was almost mundane tickles my imagination.
11:32 to 11:39
Greatest joke ever told
Does anyone else think the museum the doctor ( The curator / Tom baker ) runs is the Tardis
I watched Doctor Who late at night in the 1980s..a lot of the episodes were in Black & White
Can we please get two essential peeks. Another revived Omega that’s really big and really powerful which he should’ve been. And then a pre-disabled Davros but post the child we saw in series 9. An active young man. Maybe even a crossover between the two.
Now if they would just undo the Timeless Child retcon.
If Chibnal actually knew what the fans wanted the Timeless Child and the unredeemed Master would not exist.
But no Carol Ann Ford? I guess Susan's in her own universe now.
And it's nice to follow up on that list of the times fans got what they wanted and hated it.
I really think they should have gone with Matt Smith's doctor encountering young Amy Pond with "Do you have any jelly-babies - as a child her age probably would. Is the fish-fingers and custard a Doctor who thing or a Russell T Davies or Steven Moffatt invention? I don't recall any previous doctor eating or even mentioning such a concoction.
Think it was a Stephen Moffat invention, it shows how much the Doctor is muddled up after his regeneration.
River said that she was the third remaining Doctor that was hinted River was his Time Lord wife
Chibs is going to give us what we want in a few weeks? You mean he's leaving? Yay!
😆
CC’s era is certainly divisive whatever side you fall on. But, while he wasn’t my favorite, I don’t think he gets enough credit for how much fan service he gave in his episodes. He did a lot of Classic Who call backs that had been missing in New Who + everything in 13’s last epi (if she doesn’t come back to have the real 13-Ncuti regen) Things like putting the fez on 13, 13’s “Judoon Platoon not on the moon,” callback to 10’s line & others for New Who (+ Jack, of course). My understanding is Moff didn’t release the rights to River. Otherwise I can’t imagine CC wouldn’t have figured out a good story for 13 & River. And whatever people think of Timeless Child, the idea was rooted in Classic Who & a line of Moff’s. Was the execution great? Well, that’s going to be debated forever, but he took a couple of loose threads & did what he could to open so many new plot lines for years to come. That can only help keep the show going. And my favorite, CC’s Weeping Angel epi made them terrifying & amazing again.
2:49 Was the "fantastic" an intentional 9th Doctor reference?
Yup! :p
The return of Rose.
Could you make a “those times doctor who broke a record”? Maybe I missed it? Please include “worlds largest simulcast” in it. That was for the 50th
I would love it if river/Alex would come back or became the doctor
7:45 - gettin a little close to the mic there eh 😂
10. I for one was disappointed that we never saw the NuWho version of the boot cupboard.
8. It has NOT "been apparent since day one that the show's timey-wimey premise would allow for [multi-Doctor stories]." The fact that the Doctor regenerates wasn't even hinted at until "The Tenth Planet," over three seasons into the original run.
4. Comic books have been running interconnected universes for DECADES before either the Marvel Movieverse or the RTD-verse existed. Just, nobody cared because it's comic book nerd stuff.
3. Tom Baker played that role before, in the 1992 VHS version of "Shada." No surprise for _real_ Whovians. Also, both Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann were (technically) The Incumbent Doctor for longer than Tom Baker was.
Number 6 also could have mentioned the bowl of fish fingers and custard in time of the doctor
Peter is my favorite doctor....I'll say it every chance I get
Ellie, I’m right there with you 100% about River!
Captain Jack is the Face of Bo
SO I posted this on a forum and the moderator responded with the following commentary (I've removed a couple points because she was being a tad rude....)
OK, she's spot-on with our pathetic easiness to please...
I dunno if you can call Moffat 'the king of the long-term pay-off' given that the long-term pay-offs in Time of the Doctor were a bit of a let-down.
Oh, and anyone who thinks disappointment at an Eccy no-show EVER fades away is out of their mind.
Mmm, jelly babies
In the 60th anniversary trailers Christopher eccleston companion from the audio book is thiere in units tardis.
The problem with bringing tenant and smith to the new special means that they forget it again not only for normal reasons, but also because 11 thinks he’ll die properly with no regenerations left. For that to happen though the timeline has to be changed in some way(like how Gallifrey was brought back) and to me the show doesn’t seem to have anything that level changed for the doctor. There’s the whole timeless child thing but if they changed that, well then Doctor Who as a show wouldn’t have even happened probably, hence making its story moot.
Only the most recent Doctor remembers the events when they interact with themselves
Yes!!! MORE RIVER SONG!!! 💋💋💋