Peter Saul: Let's talk about dying

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • We can’t control if we’ll die, but we can “occupy death,” in the words of Peter Saul, an emergency doctor. He asks us to think about the end of our lives - and to question against the modern model of slow, intubated death in hospital. Two big questions can you help start this tough conversation.
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  • @dallaschisnall5191
    @dallaschisnall5191 9 років тому +31

    I'm donating my body to science when I die.

    • @BrownCreature
      @BrownCreature 9 років тому +4

      I respect that.

    • @00the00virus00
      @00the00virus00 9 років тому

      Dallas Chisnall Good for you.

    • @Waltham1892
      @Waltham1892 9 років тому +7

      Dallas Chisnall I'm donating my body to science fiction.

    • @zohargrinvald7200
      @zohargrinvald7200 9 років тому +1

      +Waltham1892 *claps furiously* ENCORE ENCORE

    • @Waltham1892
      @Waltham1892 9 років тому +1

      Zohar Grinvald Thank you, thank you, thank you...

  • @zannie2723
    @zannie2723 9 років тому +35

    As a dying cancer patient, I can say with authority: Peter Saul is wrong. Oregon's choice to give dying patients the right to die with dignity is such an amazing gift. Conventional medicine prolongs the agony of dying of cancer., and there is still no cure for most cancers. Hopefully, Mr. Saul will speak with more cancer patients about what happens when dying is prolonged, but no quality of life remains.

    • @angryjellyfish4889
      @angryjellyfish4889 8 років тому +4

      +zannie27 The only reason people try to keep terminally ill patients alive in Murica is to suck as much money out of them as possible.

    • @makelove7132
      @makelove7132 2 роки тому +1

      🤨🤨🤨

  • @derhenjunin
    @derhenjunin 9 років тому +13

    How can you want to give people more control on how they are going to die, and go against euthanasia ?... if the patient's choice is to go out without pain (in some cases there a no solutions) why wouldn't you consider the option ? (example from "Mar Adentro - movie)
    Also (and I understand it's rather extreme) longer life means more population...unless you control births...which makes us fall in A FORM of totalitariam regime...where government would choose for you if you can get a kid or not.
    I understand that it is important to know when to stop and let nature work if it's the patient's choice, having a plan matters.

    • @hundicat251
      @hundicat251 9 років тому +1

      +Gervais90 To sort of add to your comment, a great documentary by Terry Pratchett called Choosing To Die is about euthanasia and some other points associated with it. I think it opens an important door to the subject that could help shape what people think/know about it. Though, yeah, I found it sort of odd that he was against euthanasia.

  • @venkatchait007
    @venkatchait007 9 років тому +13

    Don't be silly, I'm immortal.

  • @pascalmassie4706
    @pascalmassie4706 3 роки тому +3

    This is brilliant; but why the anti-assisted suicide at the end? This seems to be the logical conclusion of the argument.

    • @NightTimeDay
      @NightTimeDay Рік тому

      It's working out great in Canada lol

  • @SexualPotatoes
    @SexualPotatoes 9 років тому +5

    But are we? We've been having some good advancements on longevity. Don 't you think it's presumptions to be sure it's impossible to cheat aging when we have several decades of unpredictable medical and technological advancements ahead of us?

  • @HooniganCG
    @HooniganCG 9 років тому +32

    Peter call Saul

  • @fredphilippi8388
    @fredphilippi8388 2 місяці тому

    Medical aid in dying ("MAID") is increasingly accepted as a death with dignity. In Canada, e.g., 4% of all deaths annually are now with MAID. Some people who have lived a completed life would prefer to not have to wait for the body to fail in order to bring on death. They would appreciate having the choice to choose to fall asleep and die before the onset of a fatal illness. We have had birth control for the last 100 years. In a similar way, we should advance now to death control.

  • @arvebang
    @arvebang 9 років тому +8

    The cure for aging will come eventually and this horror show of disease and death will end. Until that time we should do everything possible to extend peoples lives.

    • @_modnar_
      @_modnar_ 9 років тому +13

      Arve Bang What do you think the world would look like if every single human lifes forever (until he/she decides to die).We have enough problems with 7,3 billion people nowadays!

    • @_modnar_
      @_modnar_ 9 років тому

      *****​ i agree to the worlds look like. i really wonder how the world will look like in only 50 years.
      Maybe we can solve e.g. the "health and nutrition" - problem someday but i doubt that this is solved so fast. When i learnd one thing from movies it is that we always thought progress comes faster (e.g. "back to the future").
      Sometimes I think it would be best for all if it would again give a mass extinction. Hope i´m wrong ;)
      Somehow it´s really exciting to think about the future. Maybe every sinlge imagination is wrong and only time will bring the rigth answer.

    • @venkatchait007
      @venkatchait007 9 років тому

      +Arve Bang Death by aging may be cured but that doesn't mean every disease,etc will also be cured. Maybe we will simply skip the problem by inventing good enough AI so it can carry on our legacy forever while conquering the universe.

  • @Clayful1000
    @Clayful1000 9 років тому +6

    3 mil subs, 3k views, 3 comments.
    3 sides ;)
    Illuminaughty

    • @creepersssssBOOM
      @creepersssssBOOM 9 років тому +6

      Clay Eickemeyer
      this video is 13:16 long
      16-13 = 3
      #LoominatyCunfermed

  • @joeyalfaro2323
    @joeyalfaro2323 7 років тому

    in recorded history I believe profit Elijah did not taste death also those alive during second coming will not taste death by default.

  • @jengal1007
    @jengal1007 9 років тому

    Stop threatening me. You are bullies. Why torture? If you made up your minds to hate me, just let me be until you do.

  • @TanoMac73
    @TanoMac73 9 років тому +1

    Fanf*ckingtastic talk!

  • @ahmedgabertranslator
    @ahmedgabertranslator 9 років тому +2

    Let's talk about dying ( that important) , but i think more important if we talk about what happened after death ?

    • @ahmedgabertranslator
      @ahmedgabertranslator 9 років тому +1

      bman098 that's mean we were born and lived and we did everything (bad&good) ,then we dead (That means we created in vain) , i don't think it will be the end (death) , not acceptable in my mind .

    • @BrownCreature
      @BrownCreature 9 років тому +3

      It's pretty pointless to talk about post death considering we have no scientifically reliable accounts on that experience. As for that concept being unacceptable, I think you're wasting thinking time. You'll either be dead and gone much like you we're before being born, or you'll be in some afterlife and doing fine. Either way what do you gain from thinking about it.

    • @BrownCreature
      @BrownCreature 9 років тому

      MMOStein
      I don't find that concept sad, rather I'm happy I had the chance to be conscious even if it was only for a short while.
      Outside of that absolute on the same wavelength when it comes to not caring when you don't exist.
      I find it incredible that it's such a difficult concept for a significant number of people, and I wonder if the teachings of the major religions have played a part in poisoning people against non-existance by suggesting eternal existence.

    • @bboyagua
      @bboyagua 9 років тому +1

      ahmed gaber If reality isn't acceptable to you, you can live in a fantasy world, but it won't change what happens to you when you die.

    • @kilgoretrout1952
      @kilgoretrout1952 9 років тому +2

      ahmed gaber I think not being able to accept death being the end stems from not only our inability to imagine not being aware, but also a complete lack of understanding of just how insignificant we all are

  • @Melodicfirefly
    @Melodicfirefly 7 років тому +1

    You might think that an intensive care worker talking about death would just be really boring and incredibly depressing...and you would be right.

  • @egosinenomine7038
    @egosinenomine7038 3 роки тому

    birth, aging, sickness and death are guaranteed in life...

  • @theytookmyfuckiname
    @theytookmyfuckiname 9 років тому +33

    I'm guessing this video will get fewer views because it talks about the reality nobody wants to face

    • @theytookmyfuckiname
      @theytookmyfuckiname 8 років тому +3

      How so I guess I missed something? I thought his main point was to not ignore the fact you are going to die and make plans for the future with that in mind.

  • @Husholdninger
    @Husholdninger 9 років тому +1

    Saying, there is no a priori, is mainstream speculation. Saying, there is no a posteriori, is mainstream speculation. The latter is contradictive, if it is said by an empirist. This speaker of empirical evidence does not even embrace yet to be found empirical evidence. Very distrustful but convincing to the easily manipulated. It gives no room for anything but a single preconceived idea.

    • @domini1337
      @domini1337 9 років тому +2

      +Anders Husmann Can you speak in less obscure language? Why bring spirituality/religion into this?

    • @Husholdninger
      @Husholdninger 9 років тому +1

      domini1337 If you have the time, look up the latin origin of the words. They are not obscure. Where exactly do you find religion in my comment?

    • @Husholdninger
      @Husholdninger 9 років тому +1

      ***** why are you making that statement? Please elaborate according to my products.

    • @Husholdninger
      @Husholdninger 9 років тому +1

      +Johnny X no worries. 😊

  • @astray8244
    @astray8244 9 років тому +5

    dont understand his pathetic style. it will not make people more attentively

  • @Nadd108
    @Nadd108 9 років тому +2

    well just wasted 13 mins

  • @MLizzie_
    @MLizzie_ 9 років тому +1

    But you do save lives, lives are meant to be lived and letting them enjoy that a little longer is saving life, giving them more time

    • @Mitchellmotor
      @Mitchellmotor 5 років тому +2

      Saving a life from a early death is something else than "Live Saving" Because you can never SAVE it. it will always die

  • @carolineedmistoncooki3fair631
    @carolineedmistoncooki3fair631 9 років тому

    Doesn't Australia or New Zealand have Advanced Medical Directives (living will)? I am not convinced that his numbers about how many people have no idea about this are correct. Most everyone I know has talked about this.

  • @gregzeng
    @gregzeng 9 років тому

    Prime Minister of Australia, (sir) Tony Abbott stopped $ funding of this program, cos he wants privatization of the EUTHANASIA industries.
    Long live Liberal Party of Australia, & its privatization of all industries!
    It is really important, as you mentioned at the end of your talk, the 0.5% of people who use Euthanasia, become privatizated to 99.05%. The conservative political parties could use the political slush funds, just like the privatization of the rest of the "health", welfare & custodial industries.

  • @dalanium98
    @dalanium98 9 років тому

    Great tedtalk, but as an ICU doctor, Saul has an unavoidably biased position towards euthanasia and extended lifecare. Hmmm, is he truly altruistic in his intentions? Really convincing though, and funny references!

  • @sin8554
    @sin8554 9 років тому

    Really good video. Peter Saul spoke well. Though, I'm curious as to the issue of euthanasia(which is a word I've heard for the first time today). He's against it? That implies that there are some who agree with it. Completely in the dark here.

    • @KeenaButtah
      @KeenaButtah 9 років тому +1

      I agree with euthanasia. Watch "How To Die in Oregon" and "Choosing To Die" to get a better understanding. They may be both uploaded on UA-cam.

    • @Viridianification
      @Viridianification 9 років тому

      +Monsieur' Cheezebogus Where are you from? I am just curious, because I never met a person who has not heard about it. I am for euthanasia. Mainly because I would want to die humanely, instead of slowly and painfully in case I get some horrible terminal disease. I also like the idea of being able to say goodbye to my loved ones, while I am still able to.