Why France’s Overseas Territories Really Don't Like Macron
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In this video, we’ll take a look at the current situation across France’s overseas territories, why their relations with Paris are deteriorating, and what might happen next.
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1. www.worldpoliticsreview.com/f...
2. www.theguardian.com/world/art...
3. www.rfi.fr/en/france/20240416...
4. www.ohchr.org/en/press-releas...
5. www.equaltimes.org/the-chlord...
6. www.lemonde.fr/planete/articl...
7. www.ft.com/content/b6320f67-3...
8. www.opendemocracy.net/en/le-p...
9. www.equaltimes.org/the-chlord...
10. www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...
0:00 Intro
1:09 Context
3:37 Why France is Losing
5:43 What Next?
7:03 Subscribe!
Why show a chart of total GDP rather than gdp per capita, when that's what you're talking about.
You know why 😂😂
@@shafsteryellowand why is that
It's probably a mistake, but the gdp per capita is still low
And why not adjust the GDP for purchasing power?
@@jeremiahmerritt7463 gotta massage the numbers to prove your point
Rioting is not just for mainland France. Oversees territories want to join in the fun too!
I agree. They should stop all riots at mainland France first.
Sorry but Mayotte is a completely different story than New-Caledonia, Mayotte residents themselves asked for "Operation place nette". The people of Mayotte are not asking for independance and they voted yes for départementalisation in 2009 at 95% !
Agreed. New caledonia's indigenous population voted to leave France, but the foreign settlers which account for 60 percent of the new caledonia population voted for the island to remain a french territory. If non-indigenous residents should leave because the kanaks , who are a minority group in their own country, demanded, then the Australians, new Zealanders, Canadians and Americans should also leave their birth countries because the indigenous minorities don't want their foreign presence.
Its 95% to stay not 60%
@@DemosthenesKar That vote was a boycott due to COVID-19
@@uykarl Yes they should
@@uykarlin all honesty there is a difference because americans and aussies are there for far longer than most french in New caledonia
“Less financial support”
Money has always make the world round and shiny.
Lol
Remember, the United States independence movement did not begin out of the new philosophies of the enlightenment, but rather tax increases
Edit: all I tried to do with this comment was show the power of money. In addition to stifling nationalist movements, money could even create an artificial one. But it seems I triggered a discussion on the French Revolution LOL
@@keithchambersii6028 and by extension, the French revolution was driven fundamentally by gross wealth inequality and a lack of social mobility.
@@me0101001000well the taxes in the american case were often of luxury goods, which is why that revolution was organized by the local elites. Imo the french revolution is more justified
@@me0101001000well the taxes in the american case were often of luxury goods, which is why that revolution was organized by the local elites. Imo the french revolution is more justified
Her pronunciation of La Réunion is just flawless.
She is probably a French person who grew up in the U.K. Her pronunciation of French words is too good not to be French and her pronunciation of English words is too good not to have lived much of her life in the U.K. or vice versa!
I could listen to her pronounce "Martinique" all day
@@antoinedemm7533 unlikely to be French given her surname is Findlay.
'we get it, you speak french, big deal'
@@antoinedemm7533too sexy to be english too
Linking French overseas territories to African countries which are former colonies is easy and very inaccurate. They don't have the same history and the situation in each of these places is very different. To put it simply: just because the population is mostly black doesn't mean they are Africans.
True. Two very different stories.
That's exactly why they said it was speculative
You forgot to mark Corsica as part of France on the map 😇
Well spotted ;)
@@deepshadowuk Basic geography.
Italy: "No you didn't"
Corsica sounds nice
@@user-tr1zj Not a single soul feels Italian in Corsica.
France GDP per capita is 40k and New Caledonia is 35k. I mean…. It’s still lower but I’d wager there are areas of France where people earn less than that. I mean New Caledonia has more 10k of GDP per capita than Portugal - hardly the sign of a colony if you have that kind of GDP per capita.
Especially considering the GDP per capita of neighboring Polynesian countries
Except that's the average and doesnt mean shit to the indigenous people making way way less then the eruopeans there
@Acacontrols what is the average income for a Kanak person vs French person in New Caledonia?
Calling Frances overseas territories neo colonialism is ill intended. They are full french/euro citizens and most of them are mulatos with 1st world class healthcare and education.
Yeah, on average it seems fine.
But the issue are the inequalities between the colons and the original inhabitants.
Poverty is mostly on the locals, whereas frenchs occupiers are monopolizing the riches...
Why skip all of french polynesia ?
French Polynesia is one of the territories least interested in breaking with Paris.
@Saint_Edward_987 actually it's the most interested...
The whole reason French Polynesia was able to develop its economy to become arguably the world's "premier vacation destination" is that it has been able to advertise "French" to give people an added sense of security.
@@Saint_Edward_987 yet their 3 deputies are independantists...
We skip Hawai, Australia and NZ?
I was checking the data and 3 overseas regions of France (New Caledonia, saint Barthelemy and st Pierre and Miquelon all had higher GPD per capita than most of mainland France in the latest data available. In 1999 the GDP per capita in Saint Barthelemy was 113.5% of that of metropolitan France. And in 2013 the latest data available for New Caledonia and Saint Pierre and Miquelon had the highest GDP per capita in all of France at 39,376 and 42,356 USD respectively, only surpassed by greater Paris region of Ille de France
okay i don't think saint barthelemy and st. pierre & miquelon are great examples vs. new caledonia since neither of them even hit 10k people lol
French Guiana: 17,375 USD (2019)
Mayotte: 10,850 USD (2019)
Guadeloupe: 25,112 USD (2017)
Reunion: 25,333 USD (2019)
France: 47,359 USD (2024) (including territories, i looked everywhere i couldn't find the raw data for metropolitan france)
now while most of these territories have a much higher gdp per capita then their surrounding countries it's quite clear that the overseas departments and territories have (bar a few exceptions like those you've mentioned) have a way lower gdp per capita then mainland france
@@LordMMT It's not accurate to compare all of Metropolitan France GDP with that of the overseas regions since Paris and other very rich regions will skew the data towards Metropolitan France. If you want a more clear perspective it is better to look at the GDP broken down on a region per region basis. For example, the GDP per capita of New Calédonia is $35,650 in 2023 which is higher than quite a few regions in Metropolitan France itself.
That's all fine and dandy having an average of 40, the only problem is im making 70 and your making 10 so have fun with that.
How does that compare to Lorenz Curve and then compare to indigenous vs settler income distribution?
That was last millenia...
Since then saint martin has been hit by a huge hurricane and has still not recovered, years after...
3:01 you say that the GDP per capita is much lower, but how a table for GDP perchasing power parity. This controls for the cost of labour, not for number of people. I believe that some of the overseas territories are comparible to France (within 60% of Frances GDP Per cap), but this table shows France as much higher because it has a much larger population.
Fr, very unprofessional
Gdp per capita is also a poor indicator of how well off a place is
@@Lando-kx6so GDP per cap at least makes sense. It atleast as the right units. This is like talking about the country with the most obesity by summing the weight of everyone in the country and comparing that number between countries.
PPP correction is helpful but also not perfect
This video is very misleading
"How many typos should we put into our slides?"
"Yes"
"I'm not Santa Clause" is surprisingly honest for a politician, kudos for that! 🙂
They should at least try to be like Santa Claus.
@@Dzztzt You mean non-existing?
@@Dzztztthat’s a load of bollocks. A good politician’s role isn’t to buy his voters with gifts. That’s how you get a corrupt state… I know the left loves to apply that strategy but its honestly shameful.
@@Dzztzt absolute nonsense! The role of a good politician isn’t to buy out his voters with gifts. That’s how you get a corrupted state. I know left wing parties like to apply that strategy but it’s a shameful thing to do!
He is a clown though.
"This indicates the relative lack of strength of the EU and France on the global stage."
yes
EU has nothing to do with it, after all the UK became poorer after the leaving the EU
@@KrzysztofSzkodaGames clearly the UK lives rent free in your head.
@@inbb510 Clearly your insults shows you lost the argument
@@KrzysztofSzkodaGames The UK is richer than France what you talking about?
I think there’s an audio issue
yup sounds like a grounding issue
"Im not Santa Klaus" - What a Michael Scott moment 😂
Message from France : non
The correct title for this video is why doesn't France in general like Macron
Why nobody likes Macron in general, not just the French
Because he’s a capitalist pig duh
Compare how mayotte developed next to the comores after referundum
the audio in this one is all over the place, I thought my rig was broken
Good French pronunciation, much props, appreciated. Also great content and presentation.
excellent not good, excellent.
@@TheBlackManMythLegend She also kicks ass in German and Spanish, much props.
How about adressing the failed state of the comoros
Is Comoros European or part of European country?
@@Protont It's none. It's an African Island country that is extremely poor, leading to huge numbers of it's population leaving for Mayotte.
@@Kanelbullah exactly. So why should tldr *EU* cover it?
Good video.
There does seem to be some weird feedback loop interference with the audio though…
Her pronunciation of "Martinique" and "La Réunion" is really perfect, as a french speaker, im impressed !
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Good video presentation. Nice balance of face time, stock footage and animations.
euh pardon mais personne l'aime en fait cest pas que les habitants de territoires d'outre-mer 😭
Not disappointed that I read "New Calidonia" instead of "New Caledonia" 8 seconds in. It isn't a TLDR video if there isn't a misspelling somewhere on screen. 😂
I dont think they would vote for french ultra nati9nalist parties if they really where worried about "neo-colonialism" or smt
5:30 Odd that you don't mention those three countries are all ruled by military juntas. With the democratically elected governments removed, it's an open question how popular those anti-French juntas really are.
Not to mention these landlocked shitholes in Sahel got nothing to do with french overseas.
either the credits are wrong or Jack has had one hell of a make over before hosting this video
What about St. Pierre & Miquelon? Does its very different neighborhood (surrounded by Canada) make all the difference?
TLDR perspective: France voting Le Pen: "Far right, far right, far right, far right". France's overseas territories, voting overwhelmingly for Le Pen: "well, it's complicated..."
Don't forget certain powers also have a interest on France losing its oversea holdings. Russia and China are just two of them.
It’s funny how the Please subscribe or we can’t line our pockets sections is narrated by another person😂😂😂
False equivalences; Anti-French British tropes; Mixing up very different issues in a confused attempt to invent a point about France and Macron which is more Clickable. TLDR you need to do better.
This video is very disappointing
ti sounds a bit hypocrstic, if they complain about colonialism and moaning for more money at the same time
Well... That's a huge biased and incomplete video you posted there.
Mayotte riots happened because people wanted to stop Comores's massive migration by ending the birth citizen right (which was voted and agreed by the government)
New Caledonia riots emerged because the separatists don't recognise any other ethnicities living there nor the will of the majority with the referendums.
The "I'm not Santa Claus" sentence of Macron is out of context : he said that to underline that he didn't want to make any false promises as the majority of the planned budget was for Education.
(Poor choice of words and bad bahaviour anyway)
Regarding Africa, France is the perfect scapegoat with its colonial past to justify anything happening.
Take into account that the troops in Mali were there because the past government asked for help to face the jihadists marching on the capital.
They withdrew after the putsch and the ones remaining in Cote d'ivoire, Sénégal or Gabon are about to do the same as the will of the government is to build new partnerships away from what did our ancestors.
Tbf the last referendum was heavily boycotted so idk if it could be called the will of the people.
@@gothicgolem2947 well there were 3 referendums, and polling suggested they were about to lose the third one too sooo
@@leonarddoos6285 then it should be held again without a boycott so we can see the result
@@gothicgolem2947 the first two were held without a boycott. Just because one doesnt vote in ones local elections because one knows the election results wont be in ones favor does not mean one just gets to demand a re-run. The 3 referendums were agreed to a while ago and were a peace settlement of sorts, you cant demand something changes because you dont like the outcome of something you agreed to previously.
@@leonarddoos6285 Indeed they were and I have no issue with those. Thats different tho this was an organise boycott of the kanak people with meant the result was completely one sided. Thats different to me deciding not to vote in a local election/ It wasnt the outcome they had an issue with it was the timing of the ref
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2:59 says gdp per capita and shows gdp chart...wtf
"Even banned TikTok" lol
curfew is alright but how dare they ban my precious tiktok???
@@Yungkhalifa14call me a radical but i dont think governments should be allowed to ban social media
@@channel7zip you mad about the wrong thing bruh
US is forcing it to get sold too for the same reasons.....information control is no joke, although you may think it is.
It's about information control. Always has been.
2:05 "even banned tiktok" now that's crime!
There's night curfew and there's censorship.
Sound mixing is a bit off in this vid
France going full UK mode
Oh no french people on equal terms on french territory 😂😂
"French territory" yeah, no
Macron pushed a Referendum in the middle of the Covid Pandemic intentionally to kill indigenous people (which is more affected by Western diseases).
Only French people and other nationalities could vote.
This is a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.
@@lawrenceg4104
Yeah, it is.
They literally, repeatedly voted for it themselves.
@@mariatheresavonhabsburgthe last vote didn’t count because France allowed newcomers to Caledonia to vote, disproportionately affecting native voters whose population are still recovering from Covid
@@olnbgy4444
Unsurprisingly so, according to those who lost, the vote didn't count. 🥱
They like French money not French laws
Frances' four other overseas regions, meanwhile an area nearly size of the US in French Polynesia, Wallis and Futuna + St. Pierre and Miquelon...
I'm sorry but the table @2:57 is so lazy. Not only is the data almost 10 years old/out of date, but total GDP doesn't mean much. Needed to be GDP per capita to illustrate the point, otherwise you'd expect a correlation between population and total GDP which is what was shown.
And we all know what France's standard MO regarding their colonies gaining independences... make conditions for the former colony hostile that it would be difficult if not impossible to develop.
Great example is the banking system France forced on the African countries, pure exploitation
voila
Smells like cope
Besides haiti there is very little truth to your statement.
France was happy to get rid of most of its colonies because they have been financial burdens for as long as they existed.
Algerian propaganda really hit your brain hard against the wall lmao, not only the FLN is making up stories but also financing studies for exemple to prove that France gained thousands of billions from colonisation when the fact is that France ruined itself to modernise and build from ground zero everything from the roads to the last tile on every roof of all the cities and infrastructures build that house to this day hundreds of millions people all over these countries
She is much more pleasant to listen to than the usual guy; and I didn't hear her say "anyway" once
When you're talking about Sahel region, you really should also talk about Russian hybrid operations. That's basically most of the reason French troops were kicked out.
I'm speechless.Hope all will be under control soon.
The fact that most overseas regions of France are voting on average for Lepen in the last election says a lot about their desire to stay in France while keeping new immigrants out. It also shows that they clearly aren’t asking to gain independence, which Lepen would most likely refuse, as would most of the political right wing parties in France.
This video, at least admits that the referendums show this absence of desire for independence. But it still hints at the fact that it is what is desired by the population of these non metropolitan regions. The left wing press likes to do so too, in a far more pronounced fashion. I hope you guys continue to strive for objectivity, and avoid showing that you are a left leaning media, despite it being true.
When will the Kuril Islands return to Japan? Any chance of it turning in the near future with the deteriorating Russian state?
only in your dreams bud
When rest of Japan is annexed by Russia. 😂
@@user-tb3qk9vk8u that stung, didn't it. 🐝
For japan to have any hope of taking the kuril islands, first japanese men would have to have sex with japanese women instead of body pillows
@@user-xw3vi4nk2y
I guess you Imperialists haven't learned your lesson yet lmao.
Superficial analysis of a complex question. New Caledonia is very different to Mayotte etc.
Viva la revolution!
Give up colonies!!!
We would love too, but they keep saying no to independence. They should ask all the French next time, so we can kick them out.
France is made up of colonised territories in Europe and beyond. I was born in Lorraine, a colonised territory that used to be independent from France. Many other French regions are in the same case (Corse, Alsace, Bretagne, Bourgogne, Pays Basque, Savoy). If you were to grant independence to these territories, France would be geographically limited to Paris and its surroundings.
They don't want to break away, should France force them out?
@@clementl.9566 Appeler la Lorraine une colonie est ridicule, ce n'est pas parce qu'elle a été indépendante dans le passé que c'est une colonie. Il ne faut pas tout mélanger
@@pz4336 La Lorraine avait sa propre culture, langue et Histoire et était économiquement prospère. La France est venue massacrer le peuple Lorrain, a volé sa richesse, a interdit la langue Lorrain et a encouragé l'arrivée d'une population de remplacement (des colons) en Lorraine. On a été colonisé et cela fait de notre terre un territoire colonisé.
Well...banning Tiktok is good regardless of which country you're in lol
Tiktok is only a tool, among the sea of shit you can find there, there are also amazing things happening, like the apostates of Islam being able to spread their message reaching as far as Afghanistan and the newly born Apostate movement in the French language using this platform a lot and spreading like fire. A lot of French speaking sub Saharans using it talking geopolitics and I m sure, hundreds of other causes all around the world I don't know about...
People like you are the same that later complain about freedom to speech but everyone is entitled to their own echo chamber, at least you can't deny the logic is dumb to asking a specific app to be ban while give free pass to worse ones like Facebook that literally destroyed Myanmar
@@d1tto232maybe he also thinks all social media apps are bad . Can’t assume he’s anti free speech
They want to controlll freedom of speech and to organize
@@d1tto232 You know too little about the original commenter to make this statement. I strongly dislike this behaviour on the Internet; When people assume that one can extrapolate exactly who the person they are responding to is, and all their opinions, just from one comment. And this comment was obviously a joke.
All adults in new Caledonia deserve a vote, simple as that
congratulation for a near perfect French prononciation of the French overseas territories name
Goes independent
Runs out of money
Borrows from China
Defaults
Becomes Chinese vassal Wakanda style
Why China,? They could borrow from IMF.
@@kamsunleong6648 Either New Caledonia stays under France's influence, or it goes under China's that is already all over their waters, the only reason the Kanaks can live out their traditional fishing industry is thanks to the French navy that keeps Chinese fishermen at bay...Dixit Vanuatu.
Stays part of France
France wants to ensure they keep the nickel money
Keeps moving French and Asian people to new Caledonia
Kanak people and culture eventually cease to exist due to mixing
@@kamsunleong6648 Because China has been the one meddling in these regions, offering financial and non-financial incentives to local leaders for pushing policies which cause their regions to move away from the West.
why china? the other countries in the region are all puppet of US lmao. blame them instead.
Are you ever going to talk about the rights of the british overseas territories in the uk 😊. I say no jealousy.
yall might wanna cover the media overtake in slovakia
At this point new caledonia is more european than proper france
This click bait title is so wrong and so ridiculous (and Im far from a Macron's fan)
Protests already died out. There's been some kind of deal.
Far from it ! It's only the begining of something ugly !
@@fa5234
There's a big difference between your wishes and reality.
But good on you for displaying the beauty of your heart, or rather lack of it!
@@mariatheresavonhabsburg It's not my heart that's ugly (i wish them luck) but the colonisation and how it always end when France is involved.
@@fa5234 There will be nothing there. Maybe in your dream tho. Let's just wait
No.
I begin to question how France as a nation is holding a permanent seat as the security council at United Nation with all their wickedness and refuser to give many nation free or independence.
They have chosen to remain with France several times now. They demanded to delay the last referendum for a "year of grief" which they... Did not respect themselves because they voted in the Presidential elections less than one year later. That was just a ploy to try to delay the process endlessly so they would never have to admit defeat. And without their boycott, the odds are that the vote would easily go against independence anyway.
Additionally, the riots aren't from all natives, just a small portion of violent extremists who live in isolated clans.
As much as I sympathise with the Kanaks, shouldn't people who contribute and pay taxes in New Caledonia be allowed to vote?
@longballs8959 why the Aboriginal or the Maori are not at the high level post in their respective countries ???
Yes for national elections, and they are. But it makes sense to me that Kanaks don't want Metropole people to spam their local elections.
@@bobrong9645 But it isnt just "their" local election, that is the problem.
Those people are an implanted population. In the same way we don't recognize the Russians of Crimea as a justification for it to be part of Russia, so should we not recognize implanted French populations in former colonies to be a justification for those colonies to still be a part of France.
@@ricaard6959 So let give Australia to the true Australian…the Aboriginal populations !
4:20 this men cant be any less serious 🤣
He is disliked by more than half of the population.... marine lepen gets a lot of votes from people who absolutely hate him... but don't take the time to study her and her "group of cons".
After all, they showed they weren't concerned to break several laws x
To be fair, main French territory doesn't like him either
Well, if the French Overseas Territories leaves France then it means they will leave the EU and become Poorer as happened with the UK since Brexit made the UK poorer
What that is a complete lie has the UK has not become poorer at all is richer than France itself.
@@cpj93070 are you joking, im French and the level of poverty in the UK is much much more severe
It is now consensus that Brexit weakened the UK economy
@@Paul-xu6gt Let's not forget the UK is paying billions to French Energy Companies lol, so much for soo called Take Back Control. But if the UK remained in the EU then the UK would've not paid billions extra in importing energy.
@@cpj93070 Why is Denmark richer than the UK
Russian interference
Free New Caledonia!
Tldr: we have a shitty leader.
Good to know again that apparently ethnic-only votes matter, that means the French can totally disregard all the votes in France metropolitaine that come from citizens with immigrant background, right? I guess the era of nation-states of the 19th or early 20th century is still here. Im not sure the radical Kanaks understand the repurcussions of their demands.
The french colonized them. They have no right to make changes on behalf of the locals. France let immigrants in and gave them citizenship. Caledonians never approved for all the uninvited French people
New Caledonia is a colony. The French settlers are purposely trying to keep it a colony, if it was independent and then still not letting French settlers have a say is different then not wanting those french settlers to keep you as a colony, I'm assuming you're in good faith but you just seem like a blatant racist
It’s a lot more nuanced than that. France has immigrants because it allows migrants to live there and become citizens. New Caledonia didn’t ask to be colonised and under international law they have the right to be decolonized. There’s no point in having an independence referendum if metropolitan-French nationals can distort the overall vote in favour of remaining a part of France.
@@cg_2k72 Its because of "nuances" like that is why we have a non-racial inclusive democracy. When you start dividing voters in these groups you quickly get dilemmas like "what about the ethnically French who came back in the 19th century and assimilated? what about those who didn't but lived here for so long? what about non-Frenchmen who lived here for 20-30-50-100 years? Does their vote count?". This is how the real world looks, not ideology. Not to mention others questions that come from your own comment alone - what is this section of the international law that specifically allows AN ETHNIC portion of the population to "be decolonized"? And if only a portion of said population seeks decolonization? Because to my knowledge international law does not distinguish the "native population from before colonization" from others.
@@MagicNash89 if me and 3 of my friends broke into your house and then we said we should hold a vote on whether we should stay for dinner, would you allow it?
A better question would be "Who really likes Macron?"
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Old rich people.
They are the ones going to the voting room, so they are the only ones that really matters...
@@etienne8110 Where do you live? Here in Scandinavia we vote despite age or income, there's no difference.
A lot of people don’t like him in this comment section what’s fascinating does this channel just attract people who don’t like him or is he just unpopular with the French people?
@@spoonstraw7522 It might be that people with some views engage more in debate in this type of media than people with other views (just a guess). Some other "users" aren't people but russian bot accounts, computer programmes pretending to be human. Those don't have opinions and don't even promote certain opinions, they're there merely to cause disruption, division and chaos. Occationally their human troll owners (also with no own opinions) jump in to expand what the bot started.
The Chinese too use bots & trolls to a lesser extent but they're certainly engaged. That's why TikTok is temporarily banned during the unrest, for security reasons.
Not a bad video but I dont agree with putting these 5 vastly different territories on the same page. They have very different reasons for their current displeasure.
I resent that in all the reporting about New Caledonia, it was prese nted like everybody would know where it is and what it represents. in fact, initially I thought it was a Scottish settlement.
Over seas territories = colonies
As always perfect Orwellian language and euphemism of modern day european imperialists and slave plantation owners.
Land as never been tied to any ethnicity, ever.
What makes a country is not the land but the people living in it.
Every human is a descendant of a settler.
People can't be held responsible for the choice of their ancestors.
Thank you. It's comforting to read someone thinking the same way about that.
Except imperialism and colonialism are a thing...
Just because people lived a few decades on the land doesn t excuses them from using violence to seize the land and exploit the locals...
@@etienne8110 'Except imperialism and colonialism are a thing...'
Exploiting people is against the law in France today.
Imperialism and colonialism are indeed a thing, a bad thing. And this thing is just a category of 'conquest'.
This has been done everywhere around the world as long as humans have existed. And most often than not, exploiting the locals was part of it.
'Just because people lived a few decades on the land doesn t excuses them from using violence to seize the land and exploit the locals...'
The people living today on the island have not known colonialism nor enforced it.
The ones responsible for 'seizing the land' and 'exploiting the locals' are long dead.
People can't be held responsible for the choice of their ancestors.
By 1953, French citizenship had been granted to all New Caledonians, regardless of ethnicity.
@@etienne8110 These same people were themselves exploited by France, e.g. people from Alsace, Corse, Bretagne, Lorraine, Pays Basque, Savoy, Nice, etc. We were all victims of colonialism to a certain extent. My region, Lorraine, was one of the territories that suffered the most from France. Today, barely anything is left of our language, our culture and our wealth.
then you should accept immigrants in europe!
Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Saint Bartholemy, Saint Martin are colonies of French. Same goes with Great Brtain and it's colonies: North America: Turks and Caicos, Montserrat, Anguillia, Cayman Islands,Bermuda. South America: Falkland Islands. Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. British Virgin Islands. South Africa:Saint Helena. Europe: Gibraltar. Oceania: Pitcairn Islands. To me it is a British Neo-Colonialism not different than France. Because these territories did not become independent and do not had referendum of decolonisition.
Many countries have overseas territories. USA, Australia, Holland etc. It is not uncommon.
Macron must be pissed about messed his olympic party in paris.
Who likes Macron?
TLDR casually echoing Russian propaganda, failing to mention the independence referendum or the challenges posed by mass immigration (especially in Mayotte and Guyanne) hence Marine Le Pen's popularity... Get a real job kids
Macron literally solved the migration problem there by removing the birth right law, what are you yapping about
Could you make a story on the current reshifting of the european right wing and the ousting of the AFD from the ID Coalition in the european parliament?
Why is tik tok always banned when there are issues places? What’s the significance?
Easier to spread false informations and wash people's brains with this kind of poor intellectual social media I guess.
chyna
China meddling and doing what china does best, being a collective pain in everyone’s side.
They are poor islands for a reason and poeple hardly work, they get more from the government then they give back, still wayy more rich then before the French gave them modern technology
They are complaining because being net beneficiaries is not enough. Got it.
It sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Just give these people a pathway to independence. Sending troops on the other side of the world, for what? Maintaining order in shanty towns? Make it contingent on guaranteeing French businesses can still operate.
2:58 Talk about GDP per capita... show absolute GDP (PPP) ¬¬
I don't know why France decided to keep so many of these territories after decolonization. They all only seem to be a financial burden.
they send money to france, it the opposite.
@@azleadam9239 They don't. Thx don't talk for us.
They have much resources, give France maritime territory to fish and are good for military bases. Not that hard to get...
@@azleadam9239 no, they all receive more money from France than what they give to the central state.
@@markdowding5737 really? I thought France squeeze them dry like any other colonial nation in the past 😅.
New Caladonia already voted 3 times 😐
And 3 times against independence...
While I question the necessasity and wisdom of keeping a territory thousands of kilometers away from France... as a part of France.
New Caladonia had the democratic upportunity for independence and chose otherwise 🤷🏻♀️
Natives weren't allowed to vote
New Caledonia is important because it has a lot of nickel
@@mcboat3467 In the first two they did vote and were defeated, while in the third referendum most natives chose to boycott the vote. So you are wrong.
@@mcboat3467 they where, but there are also a lot of franch and asian origin people there with right to vote, and they are tipically more aginst Independence
Yeah, and if they won by a margin of 50,1% I'm SURE they'd keep doing referendums on rejoining france... right?
arent these reagions usually more rich than their neighbours?
I mean I totally get why they want to be indipendent, but they defently aren overlooked financially.
Would you prefer freedom or a gilded cage?
@@user-jn8wi3vf8q dont have they the same human rights and fredoomsas any french person?
@@Schnitzelfox not really 💚
@@Schnitzelfox The indigenous are mainly poor while the white/mezisto are rich. Basically the outcome of every other place where foreign people have settled and taken their land.
@@keshi5541 compared to living standards compared to their indipendent neigbhours they are richt thoo, thats the reason why so many ohter non european immigrants arive.
It's pronounced [gee-ah-nuh] not [gai-ah-nuh]
A Syrian kid and his refugee family move to France. On his first day of school his teacher asks him "what is your name?". To which he politely responds, "My name is Abdul and I am from Syria (Middle-East accent)..She abruptly stops him and corrects him.
"No! From now on you are French and your name is Jacque.".
He ponders it over and agrees, you're right I am French now and my name is Jacque. Upon arriving home his mother asks him how his first day at school was? He abruptly stops her and tells his mother he is French now and that she needs to call him Jacque. She proceeds to beat the shit out of him and reminds him that he is Syrian and his name is Abdul. She also tells him to wait and see what his father thinks when he arrives.
Upon arrival, and finding out, his father beats the shit out of him and reminds him that he is Syrian and his name is Abdul.
The next day at school, the teacher in shock asks him, "OMG! What happened to your face?!" He responds:
"You would not believe it! Less than 2 hours after becoming French, I was brutally attacked by 2 Islamic terrorists!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Golden comment
@@kims4149 Thanks
Hope we can find humour during dark times
😂😂😂😂
oooh goddamn that's dark, but funny XD
Would have been nice to talk more about what the people of Mayotte are scared of and how the Comores is weaponizing migrants against France. The issue in New Caledonia is also a bit brushed over, it has to be clear that pro-independents kanaks are against "non-indigenous" people having voting rights and are also against the stance of loyalists kanaks which have always outnumbered them in the successive referendums on independence.
People don't like being colonised. Who knew?
Seriously? You showed total GDP and not GDP per capita, which is better for this kind of situation? My, how the mighty have fallen. Unsubscribing.