Instead of laughing and "feeling sorry" for him, why don't you use your intelligence to understand where he is coming from? He mentions Sam Gerrans, why don't you read that translation?
Cameron, next time ask him, do you believe in this book?. If he says yes, ask him why?. If he says because it's the truth, ask him how did you know it is?. If he brings up the prophet, then you know he's played himself. The authenticness and credibility of the Quran comes from a realization that is evoked through an honest and unbiased reading of the Quran. You know the Quran from god by actually reading (understanding) the book, by peeping its extraordinary eloquence, historicity, emotionality, and the reasons why one word is used opposed to another word in the elucidation of a story or context. It's pure linguistics. But hadith followers dont actually read the Quran independently. ومن الناس من يشتري لهو الحديث ليضل عن سبيل الله بغير علم'.
Salam o alaikum brother shamsi, im from pakistan, want yo say somthing , though im very weak in knowledge an have been listening to your's and brother hijab's debate with these quranist presenting verses from qur'an like " ati'uLlah wa ati'urRasool" , "qul in kuntum tuhibbunaLlaha fattabi'ooni.." Or like a verse"... Fee buyutikunna min aayatiLlahi wal hikmah..." But why you both brothers are missing a verse 2:151 in which there is linguisticaly more powerful daleel to differentiate qur'an from three other things mentioned in it that are " yu'allikum ul kitab" means taleem e qur'an which can not be in qur'an so should be out of qur'an, and " wal hikma" which if they say that qur'an is hikmah but this can be rejected by linguistic rule as it is saperted with" wal" and " wa yu'allimukum maa lam takoonu ta'lamoon" and if they say this also means qur'an as people didnt know it before qur'an revealed which claim can also be rejected by saying that it is already said in start of the verse " yatloo alaikum aayaatina" so people already knew quranic aayaat it was not unknown to them,,
Messenger and a messenger of God is different. Messenger is someone like kamran who gives the message of the Quran truthfully and a messenger of Allah is a prophet who recieves revaluation from Allah and his duty is to recite the verse and remind us the truth of the previous scriptures and confirms the previous prophethood and it's validity. Allah said in sura Yusuf 12:106 وَمَا يُؤْمِنُ أَكْثَرُهُم بِٱللَّهِ إِلَّا وَهُم مُّشْرِكُونَ And most of them believe not in Allah except while they associate others with Him. The difference between a Quranist and a the majority so called Muslims is the verse above. #GreentechApps
It wasn’t a duty of prophet to explain the Quran.It is Allah who oath to explain the Quran in verse 19 chapter 75. Then Allah testify in verse 89 chapter 16 that the Quran is explained in details means Quran is explanation of itself. Now let's talk about what was the duties & responsibilities of our Rasul u can find in 5:99, 29:18.Allah never said our beloved prophet explain the Quran.
The Quran was revealed to the Prophet and then written down by scribes, also not forgetting the Quran is protected against corruption or change by Allah (15 Sura: Verse 9). The same cannot be said for Hadiths which are chains of narrations written 200 years after the prophets death, some narrations are 8 people long, most people can't remember what was said to them a year ago let alone all the different people perspectives and understanding. I see no contradictions here, we should be sceptical of hadiths especially those that conflict with the teachings of the Quran. You shouldn't be quick to blindly follow what you have been taught cause "If you follow the majority of people on the earth, they will lead you astray from the path of God, for they follow only conjecture and surmise". (Sura: 6, Verse: 116).
@@munib1000 But it was passed down to those same people. So how do you know these same people wouldn’t changed it…. And clearlt you don’t understand science of hadith.. . Point is, You shouldn’t trust the Qur’an according to you…. Because you wouldn’t know exactly if it’s preserved or not…. However we know it is because we have real proofs for that in Qur’an and also history proves it in our sources from the sunnah and aqual and other than that…
@@ytg5272 Allah's said it will be preserved. If God wanted to let you know how that process was done he would have. They try to take credit for this but its through his will not theirs, so the credit belongs to Allah. When you state "how would we these same people wouldn't changed it" Do you believe in Gods word? According to you , not really.
We have to remember that the Qur'an itself does not speak of the prophet's hadith or sunnah, the Qur'an claims that it is fully detailed and complete. This means what whatever the Qur'an says is final, there is no need to further elaborate beyond the Qur'an to get an understanding of what God's intentions and commands are. Sahih hadith are not reliable and are often contradictory not only to the Qur'an but also between themselves. All of the translations of the Qur'an are received from already known Arabic words and from the Qur'an itself. If you are unsure on what a certain Arabic phrase means, then look and see if the Qur'an uses that same phrase elsewhere. Also, there is no such thing as a certified student of Islamic studies. Everyone is equal when it comes to researching and understanding the Qur'an. Nobody is more certified or qualified to speak on the Qur'an. The only thing that matters is the information and knowledge that you have, and you are free to share that knowledge and others are free to scrutinize and rebuke it if they think it is incorrect. That's how science and research works. If you think something is right and correct, you present your evidence and research and others will look at it and will either accept it or reject it. If they reject it, you are free to answer their rejections until people come to what's truth.
Then why did Allah say " fasalo ahlu dikr in kontom la ta3lamun" ? Looking forward to hearing what kind of a joke argument your gonna use against this one.
Cihab Ahmed shame on you you call yourself a Muslim ,your making jokes about a Muslim who is following the final revelation that was revealed to the final prophet Muhammad who lived and only preached that same revelation . your a complete joker Cihab Ahmed , Atleast this guy Kamran is following the final revelation of Allah , but look at you who who is following man made books.
@@omarfarooq1350 where shamsi making jokes u spreading hatred here and u are not muslim iam sure 100% and kamran is laying. he said he is qurani but he doesn't know anything how u can support him bro.
@@omarfarooq1350 What?, this is a metaphor to show you the level of stupidity of your friend Kamron. Because shamsi is aking him to define a messanger and he goes to say, there is a difference between a prophet and a messenger. Its like me asking you to dedine an apple and you go to say, well there is a difference between an apple and an orange. omar farooq, you define a message for me from the Quran. Go a head I am waiting. FYI, I am making no jok because of thats what Cameron said through the debate. .
The fact that Sunnis get mad at Muslims for following the Quran only is beyond weird. Allah is showing the holes in theirs traditions.They worship Muhammad like Christian’s worship Jesus.
@@wwp4414 Your hatred comments will not do anything to Islam or muslims. Give me a verse in the Qur'an which says Allah is pagan God and if you fail to give verse from qur'an then you're liar.
So all the scholars by consensus are fools…. Because every one of the scholars agree that the Qur’anists ( Hadith rejectors ) are Kuffar and have nothing to do with Islam. And Islam is free from them and they are free from it…
In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth. Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.And that is the case for shamsi and his flock.
@Donkey Bellerin don't take things out of context just so you can massage your ego and tickle your own humor. What the commentor meant was the Quran itself asks us to follow the Prophet (pbuh) yet these misguided individuals choose to willingly skip that part. It does not in any way undermine the holy book or diminish it but rather the holistic manner to be a Muslim is to follow all that the Quran instructs including the Sunnah. Not sure how anyone can find a way to misunderstand that except through intentional ignorance
@Donkey Bellerin no we dont believe all ahadith are as authentic as quran. If we are speaking about authenticity the quran is the most authentic. But that doesnt make the sunnah less importent
@jay jay cuz you are saying that ahadith are contradicting itself while it actually backs not only the other ahadith but goes in line with quran and sound intellect. Show me a hadith explained by the salaf but still contradicts other ahadihs
Shamse please stop tha insalting and mocking your opponent is this how want to delever tha massage you know it is against our religion to do such thing
@@talhaahmad2142 iam sister please don't make excuse for him as you know Allah said don't preach what you are not practicing for your self we can't claiming Muslim while we not following tha quran
This impatient sunni fellow never wanted to listen to that guy though he closed his ear towards him.. What he was reiterating to him is all prophets by default Messengers coz all prophets receive new messages and they herald them.. But mere Messenger's don't get new message but they proclaim existing message Perhapa with a prophet as assistant... No revelations for mere Messengers.. Prophet Mohamed was a prophetic Messenger...but for example chapter yasin 3 Messengers.. Perhaps not all of them prophets but at least one.. Or even all of them.. If each received part of the message.. Quran is clear but these Sunni people not even know this and ready to debate..shame..
If there’s a difference between a postman and a messenger, and Muhammad was more than a postman because his implementation is integral whereas a postman’s isn’t, then how does this brother think he is going to learn of Muhammad’s implementation .
He already told shamsi what a messenger is shamsi is so arrogant he's not listening because he got his mind made up. That's the way salifi publication act. When things don't go there way they get upset and call you names. Everytime shamsi debate he call people names but claim to follow the salif. He's just like his teacher Abu Khadijah
Please show me the timestamp of where he mentioned what a messenger is? Even the Kaffir holding the camera recording agreed with Shamsi and said Cameron was not answering the question. You can't say what something is by saying what it's not. That's common sense brother.
Just because the kafir said it means nothing he did his best to explain simple as that shamsi is arrogant like I said and he's not a daee in this religion. You don't argue just to be seen because you run people away, the goal is to talk to them kindly so they can accept Islam. Since you see so much did you see where the man told him to calm down, stop thinking you are better than everyone except your group salifi publication obviously you don't know the history of those people
@@omarsaleem4978 brother, this is the Deen of Allah. This is the Deen by which our short time on Earth will be judged by. Unity is based on truth not unity on falsehood. If we all unite and try to make peace with 'anyone' then it becomes like Christianity, all confused worshippers just singing in church and no idea what they actually believe. Your creator says: Al Baqarah 2:42: "And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know [it]." So it is an absolute right to separate truth from falsehood. Also, Shamsi speaks very politely to several Individuals, he even spoke politely to Camron the first time they met. But when he sees someone is arrogant and confusing Muslims and guiding people to Kufr he will do what he needs to and expose them. No one with any common sense would abandon the Sunnah and follow a small group of confused Quranis and believe that Hadith is not needed. Shamsi doesn't need to be a scholar or a sheikh. What's important is that he quotes and says what is from Quran, Sunnah and the Ulama. No one blind follows him.
@@samwats7892 shamsi does not quote anything from The Quran, only Kam appears to be the one doing this, obviously you are not a student of The Quran, you are a mainstream muslim LMAO...no difference between you and the christians...
I thought the difference between a prophet and messenger was that all messengers are prophets that come with books. Idk about that "Bring something new" definition because by that logic Lut is a messenger since no one had done homosexuality before (therefore it is a new message)
Ali Algazali all massengers are prophets but all prophets are not massengers. And the different is that the messenger comes with an new book and new legislation There are 120 thousands of prophets have sent through history, 325 among them are messengers.
a prophet is someone who received revalation to uphold the current scripture that was revealed by the previous messenger. A messenger is someone who brings a new scripture with new laws, moses was a messenger, he brought new laws in the torah, yahya was a prophet, he didn't bring any thing new, but preached to continue to follow the message of the torah. Lut was a prophet, he continued to preach the message of abraham, which prohibited homosexuality, the prohibition of that practice isn't nay thing new
Where does shamsi say following Quran misleads ya jahil🤣 yall contradict urselves every 5 minutes. Cameron: ”Messengers come with an existing book” also cameron ”I never said that”😂😂
@@JT-kr5hf does he even look challenged?😅 Shamsi is the one here being challenged. Shamsi: I'm asking about Criteria. Kamran: The Quran is the Criteria. Shamsi: "If I deliver something to you, in order for you to know how can I implement it, my implementation of that has to be outside the book, cannot be inside the book, otherwise I don't have to implement nothing because, if its my implementation already in the book, I don't have to practice it" (Me: he's basically acting like as if Quran is some forgery book of hypocrites, Quran is the proof for itself, as it has challenges which even if all men and demons gather can't do those, so Quran itself is the proof for the Prophet, and it's the criterion with which we can expose imposter "prophets".) Also I'm showing the sense of you ignorant sunnies in my first comment, you may not directly say it, but you literally mean it when you oppose those who just wanna follow Quran alone, so what's your problem with the Quran alone path? Do you think that we'll be mislead if we follow Quran alone? Yes, you do think so, that's why I said it. (Also you deliberately misquoted me, I used word Quran "alone", so rather you're strawmanning my position) What you said about Kamran saying something, show me where exactly he said those 2 statements, perhaps you took it out of context as you sunnies don't like to look at textual context but you like to add outer opinions.
Wow Shamsi’s followers got very quiet when they got asked where in the Qoran you can find the first time it says obey Allah and his messenger wow... what an amazing way to show how horrible their foundation is.
Yooo Dam I think you’re missing the point.. if that is the MAIN foundation and the main argument to say no muslim can’t follow the qoran only, it is a bit strange not to being able to locate the verse, but yes I agree it doesn’t mean everything, it’s just very interesting that’s all.
I don't see how knowing the number of the verse is relevant, as long as you know it's in the Qur'an. I don't think back then they would memorize verses numbers.
Etymology of words and then when shamsi asked him where in the Quran that Allah command to obey him he couldn’t even answer. So it doesn’t prove anything. He is just playing around knowing that he can’t escape shamsi. Couldn’t even answer what is a messenger. He just kept comparing a messenger and a prophet and he even created his own definitions. So much of a qurani but made up his own definitions and not from the quran
O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.
The problem is he will never admit that he has no basis There is no root to his belief It’s his own deluded interpretation and understanding Just give up Kamran deep down you don’t believe it your just being stubborn sad
Seek The Truth their money is down the drain coz he is a complete clown “Messenger comes with a message” he thinks he is too clever and remember the shaitan was clever too ..... Masho allah to the patience and restraint of our brothers 👌🏻
omar farooq exactly and our beautiful prophet saws is a perfect example for us, we use his guidance and follow his actions on exactly how to worship allah swt 😊. If you think that’s us being shaitan then I hope allah has mercy on you. Imagine trying to understand the Quran on your own when you can’t read Arabic It’s like reading instructions in a foreign language and trying to build furniture You could maybe create something but really your gonna make mistakes When will you lose your egos and appreciate allah sent a perfect human for us and we should be thankful
@@omarfarooq1350 Then why do you have a name of some body who’s not in the Qur’an. Because that great man according to you shouldn’t even be trusted since you don’t take hadiths… . Also how do you know the Qur’an is not just made up by man then according to you. Because the same people who narrated the ahadith were those same people who passed down the Qur’an
The fact that Mohammad delivered a beautiful and an amazing book called Quran is more than enough to believe in him as a true messenger of God. Shame on shamsi to even question the prophet's authenticity, in a deed to protect some men written Hadith. He's clearly a non believer. No use in arguing with him. Allah knows better.
Sunni Muslims will discredit the Quran to make the point the Hadiths are authentic, this is the sad state of Muslims these days. Words that have been preserved and protected by Allah aren't enough for them - We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption) 15:9
Munib1000@ Ya jahil the same people that protected the Quran are the same people that protected the Hadith. What i have noticed with those people are they follow their desires, they have nothing to Do with islam. They are here to destroy islam. No doubt about that 😁
@@TheSlaveOfAllah1992 Allah protects the Quran, not men, are you saying men are better protectors of the script than God astaghfirullah. I rather take my source from Allah than unverified chains of narrations of men with desires tbh.
So according to your argument. How would you know the Qur’an we have now is the real Qur’an and is not man made or changed up… . Because the same people who narrated the ahadiths. Are the same people who wrote the scribes and compiled the texts and passed down the Qur’an to generations and nations by the permission of Allah… So if you don’t trust them. Then we shouldn’t trust Qur’an 100% either according to you… .
This Moroccan or Tunisian guy will never last in a debate where decorum must be respected. I guarantee it. He's too emotional and gets disrespectful when someone doesn't agree with him. Typical bully. I would love to see this guy debate with men that aren't phased by the bravado. All he and his "legions" do is interrupt and overtalk people; they play around with words and ask trick, rhetorical questions and pretend as if the person they're addressing is dumb for not understanding their nonsensical questions. We need to humble, brothers.
36:20 😂😂😂 when the Arab guy screamed some non sense out 😭😭 but naw man real shit u can’t just distort the verses of Allah and move on like nothing happened if someone accused you of distorting a verse with evidence you must let them say their accusation
i need someone to respond, reply, refute, with a rational mind, not emotions. @00:55 the Quran is the instruction manual, when in the world or where, u get an instruction manual, and then an explanation for the instruction manual, and then further explanations .... till infinity. ?????? | "Our Obligation is no more than to convey the message clearly" (36:17), so if we need an instruction manual to understand the Quran, then are we denying this ayat in Ya-Sin, where Allah has taken the obligation to convey his book to US, 'CLEARLY' ?????
SHAMSI sounded like an idiot here, and by the end, he was sounding like a mad man, if your deen is so strong, you would make your point and move on. You wouldn't get mad. The people around him blindly following him are the exact same people the Quran warn you against. Good Job, Kam for turning it around on the crowd to see if they really know what Allah has sent down to them as a guide.
@@denohart4929 What kind of question is that? It tells you to do righteous deeds that would not be in line with a wife-beater, would it? Are you implying the Quran is not perfect and that Allah sent a book to mankind that was not fully detailed? Might you want to question your own faith before posting stupid questions on social media? Sunnis will throw out the whole Quran to save one man-made scripture (hadiths); the Quran has warnings all of it for people like you.
If it wasn’t for these so called “ arrogant “ people clarifying the truth and exposing the falsehood and misguidance… Then we would be a mash up like the past religions… . That’s what makes us different from the Christians. That we clarify the truth and expose falsehood
Muhammad (pbuh)is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things. This is a verse from the Quran clearly showing that the prophet Muhammad is the last prophet but yet he says there will come another messenger after him while he claims to be a Qurani and he denies this verse
If it wasnt for hadith you wouldnt even know how to pray . Theres 1400 years between u and prophet pbuh and to pass down the method of praying they wrote it down with witnesses narrating exactly how he described it and so on . The hadith explains the quran bro the prophet didnt directly teach u. Whoever taught u if u go up the ladder they learned from hadith if not the prophet or sahaba themselves directly
This guy is a an absolute joke. How you gonna make outlandish claims and not provide any evidence! He defines messenger completely incorrect. Messenger is a person who delivers a message. Prophet is a highly regarded person someone who claims gods will. Also where in the quran does it say a messaenger will come again to promote the quran other the return of jesus?
SHAMSI HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF LOGIC HE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL....Cameron is very calm and logical. May Allah guide all of us to the right understanding of the quran
Shamsi says : the qur'an is not complete, we need the bukhari.. Allah say: the qur'an is completed . The qur'an is the only hadith The so called Muslims : shamsi is right 🤫🤫😂😂
Shahadah Allah’s Apostle said: “Islam is based on (the following) five (principles): 1. To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle.” Sahih Bukhari 1:2:7 These are Muhammad's words and are not found within the Qur'an. Therefore, Islam’s First Pillar is utterly meaningless, and impossible to implement, without the work of Muslim historians Ibn Ishaq (704-770 AD) and al-Tabari (838-923 AD). If there is no definition as to what the Shahadah should be, it can be any arbitrary phrase in any language. In fact there are at-least three different shahadahs used by various Qur'anist sects. Salah “2. To offer the (compulsory congregational) prayers dutifully and perfectly.” Sahih Bukhari 1:2:7 Once again, this is not feasible. The “compulsory congregational prayer” is not described in the Qur’an at all. In fact, the Qur’an says that there should be three prayers, none of which it depicts, and the Hadith demands five. The only explanation of the obligatory prostration is found in the Sunnah, and even then it is never described by Muhammad himself. Muslims are performing a ritual without Qur’anic precedence. As such, the Second Pillar is rubble. Qur'anists do not even agree upon the number of daily prayers that should be offered. The various number of prayers should be offered are 0, 2, 3 or 5. Also in the prayer itself, certain Arabic recitations and verses are recited. The Qur'an does not give specifications for these recitations so unless one follows hadiths and traditions, the recitations can be anything for a Qur'anist. Zakat “3. To pay Zakat.” Sahih Bukhari 1:2:7 How is that possible when the terms of the Zakat are omitted from the Qur’an? The first to commit them to paper was Ishaq. A century later, Tabari referenced Ishaq’s Hadith. The only reason Muslims can pay the Zakat is because Ishaq explained it to them. Hajj “4. To perform Hajj.” Sahih Bukhari 1:2:7 This is also impossible. The only explanations of the Hajj are found in the Sunnah. No aspect of the pilgrimage can be performed without referencing the Hadith. Muslims would be lost without it. Sawm “5. To observe fast during the month of Ramadan.” Sahih Bukhari 1:2:7 Sawm, the final pillar of Islam is also not described in the Qur'an, the “perfect, detailed, and final revelation to mankind”. Though the Qur'an describes the fast, without the Hadith, Muslims wouldn’t know why Ramadan was so special to them. The accounts of the meaning of Ramadan are in the Traditions, initially chronicled by Ishaq and then copied by Bukhari, Muslim, and Tabari. Strangely, the one pillar that is actually described in the Qur'an, is actually a borrowed pagan ritual Qusayy invented pre-dating Muhammad's Islam. Qusayy's family took a cut on merchandise sold during the “truce of the gods” fairs of Ramadhan.
@@LondonWarrior that's how the muslims do everytime, making their own understandings and look surprised when no one understands. When they don't understand they say Allah is the all knowing. What I don't understand is how this cult members think they are going to heaven .
Shamsi laughs at people when he is the real clown. I’m no fan of Islam whatsoever, but I get what the guy is saying. Why do Muslims NEED Hadiths to help them understand Quran? Did AL Lah rush it?
because everyone will interpret the quran according to his understanding !! and people understanding is subjective !! So the prophet make it clear for people to have the same understanding and to not differ !!! and many other things !!! the video is clear i dont know why you still asking
BK6 prod you’re right and that’s what happened to Christianity, even the trinity is not mentioned in the Bible but they made it as their fundamental believe.
Ahmed mohamed I’ve read enough of it to know it’s evil nonsense lol I can guarantee I know more of it than you 😬 My point remains; why are there over 2000 hadiths to help people understand the quran if it’s the word of AL Lah? And why are there so many which are considered “taif”? How do you know which ones can be trusted? And when a sahih Hadith contradicts a verse from the quran, which one do you go with: the command of AL Lah or Muhammad? 🤔 maybe it’s you who needs to take a closer look at the Quran, my friend x
BK6 prod haha ok and yet there are how many scholars’ tafsirs to help you? Every other Muslim will give you their own understanding anyway, so I struggle to understand the point of any of it.
@@LolLol-ih8nf sad part is,in the early days of Our True Islam, it was the word of Allah given in the quran and to be rightly guided is to ALLAH ALONE!!!! When you have stiffnecked hypocrites, you will need more to get them right, like extra study points,which are called hadiths. Riddle me this,what's the different from the talmud and hadiths? ????? Literally, like ALLAH needs help to clarify HIS WORDS,REALLY???? ALLAH WILL SHAME A LOT OF PEOPLE, just watch.
@Annfal Ali the issue with muhammadist is that you worship the man,and really try to walk talk sit eat etc like muhammad(pbuta ). Was muhammad WISER than Enoch who walked with God? Your hadiths are training wheels for pagan arabs. ...... please don't forget where Islam started from. Yet the only way you can have any legal to stand on,IS THE QURAN,THE HADITHS DON'T VALIDATE THAT IT CAME FROM ALLAH!!!. Show where Allah's word are to take the hadiths are part of the quran? You are either a righteous believer or hypocrite, it doesn't say anything about quranist sunni or Shia, Allah will destroy all titles except, a righteous believer!
If you are looking for the truth it’s for everyone to see. Allah allowed The Prophet sallalualihiwaslam that when food or water was needed a small amount could suffice many many people. And the beauty of Islam is that, not just 1 person saw this but many which is why it’s mutawattir. Narrated `Abdullah: We used to consider miracles as Allah's Blessings, but you people consider them to be a warning. Once we were with Allah's Messenger on a journey, and we ran short of water. He said, "Bring the water remaining with you." The people brought a utensil containing a little water. He placed his hand in it and said, "Come to the blessed water, and the Blessing is from Allah." I saw the water flowing from among the fingers of Allah's Messenger , and no doubt, we heard the meal glorifying Allah, when it was being eaten (by Them) Sahih bukhari 3579 Narrated Anas Bin Malik I saw Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) when the `Asr prayer was due and the people searched for water to perform ablution but they could not find it. Later on (a pot full of) water for ablution was brought to Allah's Apostle . He put his hand in that pot and ordered the people to perform ablution from it. I saw the water springing out from underneath his fingers till all of them performed the ablution Narrated Hasan ibn Thabit: , The Prophet asked for water and a tumbler with a broad base and no so deep, containing a small quantity of water, was brought to him whereby he put his fingers in it I noticed the water springing out from amongst his fingers." and I estimated that the people who performed ablution with it numbered between seventy to eighty." Sahih Bukhari 200 Narrated Salim: Jabir said "On the day of Al-Hudaibiya, the people felt thirsty and Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) had a utensil containing water. He performer ablution from it and then the people came towards him. Allah's Apostle said, 'What is wrong with you?' The people said, 'O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! We haven't got any water to perform ablution with or to drink, except what you have in your utensil.' So the Prophet (ﷺ) put his hand in the utensil and the water started spouting out between his fingers like springs. So we drank and performed ablution." I said to Jabir, "What was your number on that day?" He replied, "Even if we had been one hundred thousand, that water would have been sufficient for us.
@Iron Man who said anything about the moon falling in the backyard ? Why are you strawmaning? I never talked about the moon, I was referring to the miracles which the brother talked about above. As for the hadiths, they do mention the splitting.
Kam : Ok , So one who delivers the message has to implement it, sah ! Because the message was conveyed to him to act accordingly. From your own admission. This is why we need ahadeeth because they are the "implementation" of the Quran from the creator to the messenger . For example when the ayah came for salaah etc , So prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was taught the way to pray after the ayah was revealed , he taught the muslims around him and they complied ahadeeth so it can be conveyed to later generations to come. So folks can act accordingly. I don't understand the confusion.
"So here is the issue that needs to be clarified:Many people use the abbreviation “SAW,” “SAWS,” or “PBUH” to fulfill this obligation in their writing. Is this something that fulfills the obligation of sending the salaah and salaam on the Messenger? Let us look now to some of the statements of the scholars regarding this practice. The Permanent Committee of Scholars in Saudi Arabia headed by ‘Abdul-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abdillaah ibn Baaz issued the following verdict when asked about the validity of abbreviating the salaah on the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam): “The Sunnah is to write the entire phrase “sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam,” since it is a kind of supplication, and supplication is worship, (in one’s writing) just as it is in one’s speech. So to abbreviate it using the letter SAAD or the word SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM is not a supplication nor is it worship, whether it occurs in speech or writing. For this reason, this abbreviation was not used by the the first three generations, those that the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) testified to their goodness.” [8] “SAAD” and “SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM” are often used in some Arabic books. The English equivalents of these abbreviations would be: SAW, SAWS, SAAWS, PBUH, and the likes. Al-Fayrooz-Abaadee said, “It is not appropriate to use symbols or abbreviations to refer to salaah and salaam, as some of the lazy ones do, as well as some ignorant people and even some students of knowledge - they write ‘SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM’ instead of writing ‘sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam.'” [9] Ahmad Shaakir said, “It is the absurd tradition of some of the later generations that they abbreviate the writing of ‘sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam.'” [10] Wasee Allaah ‘Abbaas said, “It is not permissible to abbreviate the salaams in general in one’s writing, just as it is not permissible to abbreviate the salaah and salaam on the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam). It is also not permissible to abbreviate either of these in one’s speech.” [11] And Allaah knows best. May the most perfect and complete salaah and salaam be upon our beloved Messenger, and upon his noble family and companions. " FOOTNOTES [1] written by Moosaa Richardson
@jay jay the speech of Muhammad sallalahu aleyhi was sallam is not the speech of Allah azza'wajal. And 5 obligatory prayers are taught to us from Qur'an and Sunnah. Stop making up fake information to make Islam look bad, you only destroy your credibility
there is not 1 hadith that tells you how to perform salaah, not even 1, so now you are talking from a place of complete IGNORANCE, i am more than certain you have never ever read the complete Quran from cover to cover, and if you have probably no more than a handful of times, you have never read you satanic collection of hadith, yet, you are so opinionated on Islam and The Quran what it says and what it does not. Kam is saying so much truth, as Quran only muslim myself, I totally agree with his stance, if he made any claims from outside of The Quran, I and many other Quran Only would pick up on it, but not you so called muslims. You so called muslims are anything but muslims, you are no different from the christians, 2 peas in the same pod. ha ha ha ha LMAO
Hadith Slayer The Quranist can masturbate freely since the Quran doesn’t mention it to be haram, The Quranist are lazy bunch of ignorant people, too lazy to pray five times daily, they want to go hajj and increase the number there without knowing what they are doing...If I was a moron enough I would have join them..
They don’t identify themselves as scholars Shamsi: “idip ipskar… a khariji” No he considers himself a hardcore Sunni SCHOLAR I do sympathise with this brother, but you can’t make this stuff up can you. It’s nuts
The Qur'an's essential message is clear and understandable - even in translations: worship God exclusively, do good deeds. Non-essential periphery details can be expounded by the tradition of Muhammad (not hadith or books.)
@@thedawahacademy5508 This is a big problem You can not understand the quran wit out the 300 years later hadits this is wat shamsi is saying. The message need a explanation. I know why this happend.
@@thedawahacademy5508 I gone to explain to you. The quran is a Christian secterian book. The real rasul allah the real ahmad was JESUS. THE FINAL PROPHET OF ALL PROPHESIES. THE REAL MOTHER OF THE BELIVER WAS MARRY. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WOMAN IN THE QURAN THE GOSPEL AND THE TORRAH WHERE IMPORTANT AND THERE WAS A CLEAR TRINITY. IT IS CHANGE BEFORE THE SO CALD MOHAMMED AND AFTER. SOME SCHOLARS EVEN SAY THAT THERE WAS NO PROPHET MOHAMMED. 95 PRECENT OF THE VERSES THAT TALKS ABOUT MOHAMMED IS ABOUT JESUS. IN THE QURAN. THE HADITS CAME LATER. EVERYTHING CHANGE. MOHAMMED BECAME THE RASUL ALLAH AND AISHA BECAME THE MOTHER OF THE BELIVERS JESUS DID NOT DIE ON THE CROSS . THE THORRA WAS CORUPTED AND THE GOSPEL. AND FUNNY STORRYS ABOUT THE PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE. WHERE IN INVENTED. IN TO THE QURAN. THE BEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE QURAN IS WITH THE BIBLE. THROW THE HADITS AWAY.
@@thedawahacademy5508 No thanks i want you to be saved. Answer yours zelf this question. How do you know allah. Is it because mohammed is your best friend and he told you the storry about the angel. Is it because you have seen allah. Ore is it because of his eternal word.
This brother appears quite feminie, not inidicating anything but may he be protected from shaytaan about his sexuality. You can tell right away, met many lgbt who reject hadith and have this quranist mindset
Yes, so if i come to your house, and i say 'i am the real gianni', and another guy also enters your house and says 'no, i am the real gianni' and a few more chaps also enter your home and all say they're 'gianni' - is your solution to accept the identity theft and just sit down like a happy fool and make peace with all the fake 'giannis'? We take our religion seriously, because we care a lot about what happens in our next life, and we unite on truth not on falsehood, so when someone comes with some nonsense to deceive others we expose regardless of what he chooses to call himself
Sam Wats There is no next life whatsoever. We’ll die and it will be over and forever. This according to reason which means science, because nobody has experienced afterlife, you just need to look at a dead to instinctively realize that that man or woman is gone forever.Religion in its plenty forms is a way to take comfort from this harsh reality
What scientific studies have you done to have a better knowledge than mine and in what sense is your knowledge broader than mine? Because you have a book which states this and that without proving it?
Aswrb from California. This brother needs assistance. We must be in the last days as there are many sects of muslims which are propagating falsehood. May Allah swt guide us all. Br.Shamsi, why do you spend time with individuals who continue to deny the haaq? Let it go and spend time on those who are willing to learn.
Btw, he thinks that the quran is revealed in chronological order as the book we have now lol, for example he thinks fatiha is the first surah to be revealed and baqarah the second
Like I said you must don't know salifi publication history it's not about This guy it's his ugly attitude towards people in general he's young and out of control calling people khariji e c.t
Bismilaah, Alhamdulilah, wa Salaatu wa Sallaam 'Alaa man laa nabiyu ba'dahu, Assalafiyaah is the way because: the salaf u salih would easily recognize the errors of these hadith rejectors and would easily refuted them right away. Hawaa-ism makes you drown in your own desires because : People who've discussed with these hadith rejectors have a hard time in a proper demolition of the falsehood these guys carried out. Choose the right teachers because: The great salafi Scholars of the past and present have given us the tools, but little are able to understand nor read a page without having their eyes popping out. With out Taqwa and the right understanding of the knowledge you do more harm than good because: It gives bad image to the dawah of Islam that everyone has a hard time refuting and explaining and as if they are looking for a new religion. So fear Allaah Al muntaqim. He is able to take revenge even upon your own self who is inviting to Islam without clear guidance. This reminds me of the Favors of Allaah because: One of the blessings of Allah upon this Ummah is that when someone refers to the quran without a sound understanding that it will expose him or her. The proof is the prophet peace and blessings be upon him closed the doors to misguidance and said "the one who ahdathaa (introduces) in this case of ours which does not belongs in it, it is radd (rejected) " and "the one who 'aamilaa (acts) upon something what our command does not support, it is radd (rejected) He (peace and blessings be upon him, his family and rightly guided Muslims after him) , closed both ways of misguidance in this case through speech and actions. Refuting the hadith rejector and the likes, which I've met before in the past: With hadith rejectors like these you have to ask about subjects which all Muslims should acknowledge for them to validate their Islam. Example a subject arise from the Quran and was only explained by Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him. Q:"Do you believe that there's a punishment in the grave in a place between this world and the hereafter?" A:"they have to reject because they didn't get the right understanding of the Quran." and "they will certainly say that they do not believe in it, because they don't find it in the Quran. Deaf stupid and blind they can not understand. As a Muslim salafi, the scholars who I've followed their teachings gave the verses which explains that Allaah mentioned in the Quran concerning the punishment of the grave.That's where i can expose them properly with wisdom and evidence in sha Allaah subhanahu wa ta'aalaa . There are three places: This worldy life The Hereafter and The place between the two which is called Barzag. Allaah Subhanahu wa ta'aalaa says about firawn (the farao) : ٱلنَّارُ يُعْرَضُونَ عَلَيْهَا غُدُوًّا وَعَشِيًّا ۖ وَيَوْمَ تَقُومُ ٱلسَّاعَةُ أَدْخِلُوٓاْ ءَالَ فِرْعَوْنَ أَشَدَّ ٱلْعَذَابِ يُعْرَضُونَ the right understanding from the tafaseer is present times and right now in the morning and the evening. The Farao and his allies who got killed by drowning are right now getting fire punishment in the morning and the evening until the hour will take place. Pits of fire for the worshippers among the heretics and gardens for the disobedient among the people of Sunnah as mentioned by ahmad ibn Hanbal may Allaah have mercy on him. تَقُومُ is something that takes place in the future in this case the Hour. And the prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him said to Umm al mumineen 'Aa-ishaa may Allaah be pleased with her: " the punishment of the grave is haqq (truth)... " And Allaah subhanahu wa ta' aalaa said : وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ "And what the messenger gives you, take it.. " and مَّن يُطِعِ الرَّسُولَ فَقَدْ أَطَاعَ اللَّهَ ۖ وَمَن تَوَلَّىٰ فَمَا أَرْسَلْنَاكَ عَلَيْهِمْ حَفِيظًا "and whomsoever obeys the messenger, verily has obeyed Allaah, and whosoever turns away, we did not sent you (o, Muhammad) as a guardian" and وَأَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَالرَّسُولَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ "And obey Allaah and the messenger so you will be shown mercy" The ones who denies it, denies the Quran because: Wat the messenger gives you, TAKE IT! Peace and blessings be upon Muhammad, his family and the rightly guided from his ummah Alhamdulilah. And Allaah knows best
Refutation to the false claim that Hadith were written 200 years after the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him). Evidence that the Hadith were written during the Life of the Prophet (Peace And Blessings of Allah be upon him), on his command and approval. Abdullah Ibn Amr (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “I used to write down everything that I heard from the messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), intending to commit it to memory, I spoke about it to the messenger of Allah. And he said: “Write down, for I only speak the truth.” (Tirmidhi). Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “None preserved more Hadith than me, but Abdullah Ibn Amr (May Allah be pleased with him) is an exception, for he used to write.” (Sahih Al Bukhari). Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “By Him In whose hand is the soul of Muhammad (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), write down, for only I only speak the truth.” (Sunan Abu Dawud). Rafi Ibn Khadij (May Allah be pleased with him), said to the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), “I hear from you many things, should I write them down?” Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “You May Write, there is no harm.” (Tadrib Al Rawi). Abu Rafi (May Allah be pleased with him) sought permission of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) to write Hadith, and he permitted him to do so. (Tirmidhi) Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) delivered a lecture on the day of conquest of Makkah and Abu Shaah, a Yemeni companion, stood up and said, “O Messenger of Allaah! Get it written for me.” The Messenger of Allaah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “WRITE IT for Abu Shaah.” (Al Luqatah, 2254, Tirmidhi 2667, Sahih). Also, on another occasion when Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) was delivering the lectures on his Instructions, a companion said: “O Allah’s messenger! Get that written for me.” The Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) ordered the companions to write that for him (Sahih Al Bukhari). Abdullah Ibn Amr (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated, Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Preserve knowledge.” He asked: “How should It be preserved?” Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) replied: “By Writing.” (Tirmidhi). The great companion Muawiyah (May Allah be pleased with him) wrote to Al Mughira (May Allah be pleased with him), “Write to me a Hadith you have heard from Messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him).” (Sahih Al Bukhari) The fourth rightly guided Caliph, Ali Ibn Abu Talib (May Allah be pleased with him) said about his compilation: “it deals with The Diyya (compensation (blood money) paid by the killer to the relatives of the victim), the ransom for the releasing of the captives from the hands of the enemies, and the law that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for the killing of (a disbeliever). (See also Saheeh Bukhari, Volume 004, Book 053, Hadith Number 397, Volume 009, Book 083, Hadith Numbers 040 & 50) He further said: “...written in this paper which contains verdicts regarding (retaliation for) wounds, the ages of the camels (given as Zakat or as blood money) and the fact that Medina is a sanctuary in between Air mountain to so-and-so (mountain). So, whoever innovates in it an heresy or commits a sin or gives shelter in it, to such an innovator will incur the Curse of Allah, the angels and all the people, and none of his compulsory or optional good deeds of worship will be accepted. And whoever (freed slave) takes as his master (i.e. befriends) other than his real masters will incur the same (Curse). And the asylum granted by any Muslim is to be secured by all the other Muslims, and whoever betrays a Muslim in this respect will incur the same (Curse)." (Sahih Al Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Hadith 397). Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Write down, for I only speak the truth.” (Al Hakim) Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated, Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Preserve knowledge by writing.” (Jami Al Bayan). Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Hear from me, and others will hear from you, and people will hear from them, who heard it from you.” (Sunan Abu Dawud 3659, Sahih) Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “May Allah brighten a man, who hears a Hadith from us, learns It by heart, and passes it on to others.” (Sunan Abu Dawud 3660). Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated, Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Relate Hadith.” (Sunan Abu Dawud 3662) Amr Ibn Al As (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) used to relate Hadith..” (Sunan Abu Dawud 3663, Sahih). Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “It is incumbent upon those who are present to inform about this (Hadith) to those who are absent.” (Sahih Al Bukhari) Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “It is incumbent upon those who are present to inform (about Hadith) to those who are absent, because those who are absent might comprehend what I say better than the present audience.” (Sahih Al Bukhari) Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Convey from me, even If It is one verse.” (Sahih Al Bukhari 3461) Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “He who is present here, should take this message (The Hadith) to him who is absent.” (Sahih Al Bukhari) Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “When I narrate a Hadith to you, then take it.” (Tirmidhi 2679) Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “May Allah gladden a man, who hears a Hadith from us, so he memorises it and conveys it.” (Tirmidhi 2656) Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “May Allah gladden a man, who bears a Hadith from us, so he conveys It as he heard it.” (Tirmidhi 2657) Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “May Allah beautify a man, who hears a Hadith from us, learns It by heart and passes it on to others.” (Tirmidhi 2658) Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “May Allah cause his face to shine, a man who hears a Hadith from us, so he remembers it and conveys it, and perhaps to whom It is conveyed it understands it better than the one who heard it first.” (Sunan Ibn Majah, Book of Sunnah, Hadith 232). Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Preach what you hear me say. Also let those who see and hear me, take upon themselves to communicate my words to others and preach to their children, relatives and friends.” (ISLAMIAT Book) Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her) said: “Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) spoke in a distinct, clear manner, so anyone who listened to him could understand it.” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4839) Aisha (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “The Speech of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) was so clear that anyone who listened to him, could understand it.” (Sunan Abu Dawud) Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) used to repeat his speech multiple times to make sure that the companions memorised his Hadith. Anas Ibn Malik (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “Whenever he [The Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him)] spoke a sentence, he used to repeat it thrice.” (Sahih Al Bukhari 94) Anas Ibn Malik (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “Whenever the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) spoke, he used to repeat it thrice.” (Sahih Al Bukhari 95) Abdullah Ibn 'Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him), the companion and the cousin of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), relates: “When the Messenger of Allah died, I said to one Ansari, 'Let us ask the Companions of the Prophet as there are still a lot of them.' He replied, 'Quite curious, don't you think, O Ibn Abbas, that people will be in need of you while a great number of the Companions of the Prophet are still surviving?' So I left him and started asking the Companions. Sometimes when a hadith was reported to me by anyone of them, I used to approach their houses and found them taking rest at noon. So I would rest my head on my cloak at their door while the wind blew dust on my face till the man came out and said: 'O cousin of the Prophet, what brought you here? Why did you not call for me so that I could come to you myself?' I would say: 'No, you deserve to be visited by me.' Then I asked him concerning hadith." [Mustadrak al-Hakim, 1/107]
Abu Ayyub al-Ansari travelled to Uqba ibn Amir to enquire about a single hadith that no one that remained alive had heard direct from the Prophet other than them. He said to the Governor of Egypt, "A hadith which I heard from the Prophet and now from those left alive no one except for me and Uqba heard it from the Prophet direct. So please provide me with anyone who can guide me to his house." The Governor sent for someone who directed him to Uqba's house who, on hearing the news of Abu Ayyub's arrival, came out hurriedly, saying, "What brings you here, O Abu Ayyub?" He replied, "A hadith about protecting a believer that I heard from the Prophet and no one else except me and you are left who heard it from him." Uqba said, "Yes, I heard the Prophet saying, 'Whoever protects a believer from being disgraced, Allah will protect him on the Day of Resurrection.' " Abu Ayyub said, "You have told the truth." [Al-Hakim, Marifat, pp.7-8] The companions therefore, considered It their duty to preach the Hadith to those who had not seen or listened to him. A party of a student called Ashab-e-Suffah lived in the mosque Itself, and were specially entrusted with the teaching of religion to tribes outside Madinah. From This group the most famous was Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him), who would remain in the company of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) at all times and store up in his memory everything that the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon) said or did. His efforts were, from the very beginning directed towards the preservation of the Hadith. The Hadith were complied during the life of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him). Compilation of the Companions written at the command/approval of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him). 1. Sahifa Sadiqa. This was the compilation written by Abdullah Ibn Amr Ibn Al As (May Allah be pleased with him). He wrote it at the order of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him). Abdullah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “I used to write down whatever I heard from the messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), Intending to commit it to memory, I spoke about it to the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), and he said: ‘Write down, for I only speak the Truth.” (Tirmidhi, Sahih) Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “None preserved more Hadith than I, but Abdullah Ibn Amr (May Allah be pleased with him) is an exception, for he used to write.” (Sahih Al Bukhari) Amr Ibn Al As (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated, Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Preserve knowledge.” He asked: “...and how should it be preserved?” Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “By Writing.” (Mustadarak Al Hakim, Jami Al Bayan). The compilation of Abdullah Ibn Amr (May Allah be pleased with him) was well preserved within his family, It has 1000 Hadith, all of It can be found in Musnad Ahmad. 2. Sahifa Sahiha by Humam Ibn Munabbeh (May Allah be pleased with him). This well known Hadith compilation is by one of the Students of the great companion Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him). It contains 138 narrations which he narrated from Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) and most of Its Hadith can be found in Sahih Al Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. It’s copies are available in Damascus Library and Berlin Library. It has also been printed by Dr Hamedullah, and distributed through out world, and especially in Hyderabad, Deccan. All of It can be found in Musnad Ahmad, under the Hadith narrated by Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him). 3. Musnad Abu Hurairah. This well known compilation was written during the times of Companions. It’s copy was with the father of Umar Ibn Al Abdul Aziz (Rahimullah), makes Abdul Aziz Ibn Marwan, the governor of Misr who died in 86AH. He also commanded Kathir Ibn Murrah, to command the people to write down every Hadith which they narrated from the companions. This copy was hand written by the great scholar of Islam, Shaykh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (Rahimullah), and that copy is available in a library in Germany.
4. Sahifa of Ali (May Allah be pleased with him). This compilation of Hadith was written by the 4th rightly guided caliph, the cousin of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), Ali Ibn Abi Talib (May Allah be pleased with him). The Compilation As narrated by Imam Al Bukhari (Rahimullah), was of several volumes, and It had Hadith concerning Zakat, Islamic guidelines, Halal and Haram. When asked about his compilation, Ali (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “It deals with The Diyya (compensation (blood money) paid by the killer to the relatives of the victim), the ransom for the releasing of the captives from the hands of the enemies, and the law that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for the killing of (a disbeliever).” (Sahih Al Bukhari 111). He further said: “...written in this paper which contains verdicts regarding (retaliation for) wounds, the ages of the camels (given as Zakat or as blood money) and the fact that Medina is a sanctuary in between Air mountain to so-and-so (mountain). So, whoever innovates in it an heresy or commits a sin or gives shelter in it, to such an innovator will incur the Curse of Allah, the angels and all the people, and none of his compulsory or optional good deeds of worship will be accepted. And whoever (freed slave) takes as his master (i.e. befriends) other than his real masters will incur the same (Curse). And the asylum granted by any Muslim is to be secured by all the other Muslims, and whoever betrays a Muslim in this respect will incur the same (Curse)." (Sahih Al Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Hadith 397). 5. Sahifa of Jabir (May Allah be pleased with him). This compilation if of Jabir (May Allah be pleased with him), his students Wahab Ibn Munabehh (May Allah be pleased with him) and Sulaiman Ibn Qais Lashkare, narrated Hadith from Jabir (May Allah be pleased with him), and It contained guidelines of Hajj and Khutbah tul Hajaj Al Widah. 6. Narrations of A’isha (May Allah be pleased with her). These were written by her student, Urwah Ibn Zubair (May Allah be pleased with her). 7. The Letter of Amr Ibn Hazm (May Allah be pleased with him). In a letter to ‘Amr ibn Hazm, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told the people of Yemen: “No one should touch the Qur’aan except one who is taahir (pure).”. (Reported by Maalik, 1/199; al-Nisaa’i, 8/57; Ibn Hibbaan, 793; al-Bayhaqi, 1/87. Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar (Rahimullah) said: “A group of scholars classed this Hadith as Sahih because it is so well known. Imam Ash Shafi’i (Rahimullah) said: “It is proven that it was a letter sent by Messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him).” Ibn Abdul Barr (Rahimullah) said: “This Peter is famous among the scholars of Seerah, and it is so well known that scholars say it does not need an isnaad. It is like tawatur because the people accepted and recognised it.” Shaykh Al Albani (Rahimullah) said: “It is Sahih.” (Al Talkhees Al Habir 4/17, Nasb Al Raayah 1/196, Irwaa Al Ghaleel 1/158). This letter also contained guide lines of Prayer, methods of prayer, details of ablution, times of prayer, booty, taxation, Zakat. 8. The Sahifa of Anas Ibn Malik (May Allah be pleased with him). It was narrated by Saeed Ibn Hilal that Anas Ibn Malik (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “I heard this narration from Messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) myself, and I would write down and repeat it to the messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), so that he would affirm it.” 9. Risalah of Samura Ibn Jundab (May Allah be pleased with him). It was given to his son at his will, It was a great treasure. 10. Saad Ibn Ubadah (May Allah be pleased with him). He knew how to read and write from the time of Jahliyyah. 11. Matoob Naf’i. Suleiman Ibn Musa narrated that Abdullah Ibn Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated the Hadith and Imam Naf’i (Rahimullah) would write. 12. Book of Abdullah Ibn Masud (May Allah be pleased with him). Ma’an (Rahimullah) narrates that Abdul Rahman Ibn Abdullah Ibn Masud (May Allah be pleased with him) took out a book and said: “My father wrote this.” 13. Sahifa Bashir Ibn Naik. Bashir Ibn Naik (May Allah be pleased with him) was also a student of Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him), he also wrote a book on Hadith and showed it to Abu Hurayrah (May Allah be pleased with him) and he verified it. 14. Compilation of Ibn Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him). Abu Râfi' (May Allah be pleased with him) sought permission from the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) to write Hadith. The Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) permitted him to do so. [Jâmi' Tirmidhi] It is reported that the Hadith written by Abu Rafi' were copied by other companions too. Salma, a pupil of Ibn 'Abbâs says: I saw some small wooden boards with 'Abdullâh Ibn 'Abbâs (May Allah be pleased with him). He was writing on them some reports of the acts of the Holy Prophet which he acquired from Abu Râfi'. [Tabaqât Ibn Sa'd] Abdullah Ibn 'Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him), the companion and the cousin of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), relates: “When the Messenger of Allah died, I said to one Ansari, 'Let us ask the Companions of the Prophet as there are still a lot of them.' He replied, 'Quite curious, don't you think, O Ibn Abbas, that people will be in need of you while a great number of the Companions of the Prophet are still surviving?' So I left him and started asking the Companions. Sometimes when a hadith was reported to me by anyone of them, I used to approach their houses and found them taking rest at noon. So I would rest my head on my cloak at their door while the wind blew dust on my face till the man came out and said: 'O cousin of the Prophet, what brought you here? Why did you not call for me so that I could come to you myself?' I would say: 'No, you deserve to be visited by me.' Then I asked him concerning hadith." [Mustadrak al-Hakim, 1/107] It has also been narrated that Ibn Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him) wrote many books of Hadith narrated by Abu Rafi (May Allah be pleased with him), to him.
Instead of laughing and "feeling sorry" for him, why don't you use your intelligence to understand where he is coming from? He mentions Sam Gerrans, why don't you read that translation?
Its not real debate of question.. this is is just shouting... sunni even did not try to understand..
Muslim need to stop shamsi from giving Dawah
He has the liberty the believe in Quran only. Why people heckle him, I've no idea!
Cameron, next time ask him, do you believe in this book?. If he says yes, ask him why?. If he says because it's the truth, ask him how did you know it is?. If he brings up the prophet, then you know he's played himself.
The authenticness and credibility of the Quran comes from a realization that is evoked through an honest and unbiased reading of the Quran. You know the Quran from god by actually reading (understanding) the book, by peeping its extraordinary eloquence, historicity, emotionality, and the reasons why one word is used opposed to another word in the elucidation of a story or context. It's pure linguistics. But hadith followers dont actually read the Quran independently. ومن الناس من يشتري لهو الحديث ليضل عن سبيل الله بغير علم'.
“Obey Allah and obey the messenger”
you are right!!! they have asked him this question before... he's answer to how he knows its the truth, it is always "its irrelevant". lol
The best interaction against a Quranist I've seen is by Brother Mansoor!
Very very tactical, may Allah bless and reward thr brother
Salam o alaikum brother shamsi, im from pakistan, want yo say somthing , though im very weak in knowledge an have been listening to your's and brother hijab's debate with these quranist presenting verses from qur'an like " ati'uLlah wa ati'urRasool" , "qul in kuntum tuhibbunaLlaha fattabi'ooni.." Or like a verse"... Fee buyutikunna min aayatiLlahi wal hikmah..." But why you both brothers are missing a verse 2:151 in which there is linguisticaly more powerful daleel to differentiate qur'an from three other things mentioned in it that are " yu'allikum ul kitab" means taleem e qur'an which can not be in qur'an so should be out of qur'an, and " wal hikma" which if they say that qur'an is hikmah but this can be rejected by linguistic rule as it is saperted with" wal" and " wa yu'allimukum maa lam takoonu ta'lamoon" and if they say this also means qur'an as people didnt know it before qur'an revealed which claim can also be rejected by saying that it is already said in start of the verse " yatloo alaikum aayaatina" so people already knew quranic aayaat it was not unknown to them,,
Shamsi and his gang are very respectless
Messenger and a messenger of God is different. Messenger is someone like kamran who gives the message of the Quran truthfully and a messenger of Allah is a prophet who recieves revaluation from Allah and his duty is to recite the verse and remind us the truth of the previous scriptures and confirms the previous prophethood and it's validity.
Allah said in sura Yusuf 12:106
وَمَا يُؤْمِنُ أَكْثَرُهُم بِٱللَّهِ إِلَّا وَهُم مُّشْرِكُونَ
And most of them believe not in Allah except while they associate others with Him.
The difference between a Quranist and a the majority so called Muslims is the verse above.
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Do you guys all smoke the same dodgy crack?even a rock has more understanding about the quran than you arrogant fools
GABRIEL brought the message of God down to Earth and to Muhammad, as chosen by God
It wasn’t a duty of prophet to explain the Quran.It is Allah who oath to explain the Quran in verse 19 chapter 75. Then Allah testify in verse 89 chapter 16 that the Quran is explained in details means Quran is explanation of itself.
Now let's talk about what was the duties & responsibilities of our Rasul u can find in 5:99, 29:18.Allah never said our beloved prophet explain the Quran.
What a contradiction, they reject the Hadith but claim to believe in the Quran, when both of them came from the same people.
The Quran was revealed to the Prophet and then written down by scribes, also not forgetting the Quran is protected against corruption or change by Allah (15 Sura: Verse 9). The same cannot be said for Hadiths which are chains of narrations written 200 years after the prophets death, some narrations are 8 people long, most people can't remember what was said to them a year ago let alone all the different people perspectives and understanding. I see no contradictions here, we should be sceptical of hadiths especially those that conflict with the teachings of the Quran. You shouldn't be quick to blindly follow what you have been taught cause "If you follow the majority of people on the earth, they will lead you astray from the path of God, for they follow only conjecture and surmise". (Sura: 6, Verse: 116).
@@munib1000 But it was passed down to those same people. So how do you know these same people wouldn’t changed it…. And clearlt you don’t understand science of hadith..
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Point is, You shouldn’t trust the Qur’an according to you…. Because you wouldn’t know exactly if it’s preserved or not…. However we know it is because we have real proofs for that in Qur’an and also history proves it in our sources from the sunnah and aqual and other than that…
@@ytg5272 Allah's said it will be preserved. If God wanted to let you know how that process was done he would have. They try to take credit for this but its through his will not theirs, so the credit belongs to Allah. When you state "how would we these same people wouldn't changed it" Do you believe in Gods word? According to you , not really.
We have to remember that the Qur'an itself does not speak of the prophet's hadith or sunnah, the Qur'an claims that it is fully detailed and complete. This means what whatever the Qur'an says is final, there is no need to further elaborate beyond the Qur'an to get an understanding of what God's intentions and commands are.
Sahih hadith are not reliable and are often contradictory not only to the Qur'an but also between themselves. All of the translations of the Qur'an are received from already known Arabic words and from the Qur'an itself. If you are unsure on what a certain Arabic phrase means, then look and see if the Qur'an uses that same phrase elsewhere.
Also, there is no such thing as a certified student of Islamic studies. Everyone is equal when it comes to researching and understanding the Qur'an. Nobody is more certified or qualified to speak on the Qur'an. The only thing that matters is the information and knowledge that you have, and you are free to share that knowledge and others are free to scrutinize and rebuke it if they think it is incorrect. That's how science and research works. If you think something is right and correct, you present your evidence and research and others will look at it and will either accept it or reject it. If they reject it, you are free to answer their rejections until people come to what's truth.
Then why did Allah say " fasalo ahlu dikr in kontom la ta3lamun" ? Looking forward to hearing what kind of a joke argument your gonna use against this one.
Get a reality check you ignorant fool
Shamsi is being ignorant
Shamsi: what is your name
Qurani: I live in London
LOL
Please give a timestamp, that is hilarious lol
Cihab Ahmed shame on you you call yourself a Muslim ,your making jokes about a Muslim who is following the final revelation that was revealed to the final prophet Muhammad who lived and only preached that same revelation . your a complete joker Cihab Ahmed , Atleast this guy Kamran is following the final revelation of Allah , but look at you who who is following man made books.
@@omarfarooq1350 where shamsi making jokes u spreading hatred here and u are not muslim iam sure 100% and kamran is laying. he said he is qurani but he doesn't know anything how u can support him bro.
@@omarfarooq1350 What?, this is a metaphor to show you the level of stupidity of your friend Kamron.
Because shamsi is aking him to define a messanger and he goes to say, there is a difference between a prophet and a messenger.
Its like me asking you to dedine an apple and you go to say, well there is a difference between an apple and an orange.
omar farooq, you define a message for me from the Quran.
Go a head I am waiting.
FYI, I am making no jok because of thats what Cameron said through the debate.
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Qurani: "we want to follow Quran alone".
Sunni: "following Quran alone misleads".
My farther he was in China 😂 😂 haha
shamsi: he was a messenger phrophet
quranist : NOOO! he was a prophet messenger.. This is the logic and argument of this quranist..wow lol
The man is genuinely trying to learn
The fact that Sunnis get mad at Muslims for following the Quran only is beyond weird.
Allah is showing the holes in theirs traditions.They worship Muhammad like Christian’s worship Jesus.
This “qurani” is a one of most misguided ignorant individual you will come across May Allah guide them or break their backs
Muhammad was a false prophet
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What is wrong with you pagan human worshipper
Yahya this qurani or is it the Quran thats the most misguided ignorant book ever written. Lol
@@ebrimajawneh6918 and the award goes to Allah the biggest and most popular pagan god.
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Your hatred comments will not do anything to Islam or muslims. Give me a verse in the Qur'an which says Allah is pagan God and if you fail to give verse from qur'an then you're liar.
Nobody here should be insulting the man because we look like fools when were calling our own kaffir
N u are
I dont know why fools just love to use division
@@MohammadQasim well good luck bringing people to islam acting like a kid
@@MohammadQasim why dont you change your name to lol
So all the scholars by consensus are fools…. Because every one of the scholars agree that the Qur’anists ( Hadith rejectors ) are Kuffar and have nothing to do with Islam. And Islam is free from them and they are free from it…
In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth. Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.And that is the case for shamsi and his flock.
lol , denialism on whose term ? you look at shamsi that way , while I look at the latter lad that way , I even look at you as in denial.
100%, could not have put it better
Shamsi’s reactions to this guy and the other one hilarious 🤣
SHamzi is a fool... This Quran only guy makes sense to me... At least he is genuine and sincere in his argumentation. Shamzi is playing game.
BlackTVPicasso lol another plank
A Quran only Muslim? Do they still exist? Subhanallah may Allah guide them (no pun intended!).
Ignorance people
@Donkey Bellerin don't take things out of context just so you can massage your ego and tickle your own humor. What the commentor meant was the Quran itself asks us to follow the Prophet (pbuh) yet these misguided individuals choose to willingly skip that part. It does not in any way undermine the holy book or diminish it but rather the holistic manner to be a Muslim is to follow all that the Quran instructs including the Sunnah. Not sure how anyone can find a way to misunderstand that except through intentional ignorance
@Donkey Bellerin no we dont believe all ahadith are as authentic as quran. If we are speaking about authenticity the quran is the most authentic. But that doesnt make the sunnah less importent
@jay jay are you a qurani
@jay jay cuz you are saying that ahadith are contradicting itself while it actually backs not only the other ahadith but goes in line with quran and sound intellect. Show me a hadith explained by the salaf but still contradicts other ahadihs
Shamse please stop tha insalting and mocking your opponent is this how want to delever tha massage you know it is against our religion to do such thing
Brother he is denying hadith its very frustrating talking to someone who keeps denying even when u give them 5999 examples
@@talhaahmad2142 iam sister please don't make excuse for him as you know Allah said don't preach what you are not practicing for your self we can't claiming Muslim while we not following tha quran
Shamsi is an arrogant person. Not a good example...
25:20 you are dead when Br shamsi starts quoting verse.
Kamran, if you reading this message please let me know. I need to ask you something.
Yes brother Inbox me
He doesnt do ghusl.so there's your answer
This impatient sunni fellow never wanted to listen to that guy though he closed his ear towards him.. What he was reiterating to him is all prophets by default Messengers coz all prophets receive new messages and they herald them.. But mere Messenger's don't get new message but they proclaim existing message Perhapa with a prophet as assistant... No revelations for mere Messengers.. Prophet Mohamed was a prophetic Messenger...but for example chapter yasin 3 Messengers.. Perhaps not all of them prophets but at least one.. Or even all of them.. If each received part of the message.. Quran is clear but these Sunni people not even know this and ready to debate..shame..
If there’s a difference between a postman and a messenger, and Muhammad was more than a postman because his implementation is integral whereas a postman’s isn’t, then how does this brother think he is going to learn of Muhammad’s implementation .
Shamsi says, Jesus was a messenger prophet
He already told shamsi what a messenger is shamsi is so arrogant he's not listening because he got his mind made up. That's the way salifi publication act. When things don't go there way they get upset and call you names. Everytime shamsi debate he call people names but claim to follow the salif. He's just like his teacher Abu Khadijah
Please show me the timestamp of where he mentioned what a messenger is? Even the Kaffir holding the camera recording agreed with Shamsi and said Cameron was not answering the question. You can't say what something is by saying what it's not. That's common sense brother.
Just because the kafir said it means nothing he did his best to explain simple as that shamsi is arrogant like I said and he's not a daee in this religion. You don't argue just to be seen because you run people away, the goal is to talk to them kindly so they can accept Islam. Since you see so much did you see where the man told him to calm down, stop thinking you are better than everyone except your group salifi publication obviously you don't know the history of those people
Sam wats
@@omarsaleem4978 brother, this is the Deen of Allah. This is the Deen by which our short time on Earth will be judged by. Unity is based on truth not unity on falsehood. If we all unite and try to make peace with 'anyone' then it becomes like Christianity, all confused worshippers just singing in church and no idea what they actually believe.
Your creator says:
Al Baqarah 2:42: "And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know [it]."
So it is an absolute right to separate truth from falsehood. Also, Shamsi speaks very politely to several Individuals, he even spoke politely to Camron the first time they met. But when he sees someone is arrogant and confusing Muslims and guiding people to Kufr he will do what he needs to and expose them.
No one with any common sense would abandon the Sunnah and follow a small group of confused Quranis and believe that Hadith is not needed.
Shamsi doesn't need to be a scholar or a sheikh. What's important is that he quotes and says what is from Quran, Sunnah and the Ulama. No one blind follows him.
@@samwats7892 shamsi does not quote anything from The Quran, only Kam appears to be the one doing this, obviously you are not a student of The Quran, you are a mainstream muslim LMAO...no difference between you and the christians...
Quran only guy speaks with faith it is obvious and these fellows speak for fun..
Such arrogance Shamsi has... sign means miracle? Someone please teach Shamsi English..
Of course sign mean miracle
@jay jay Signs of allah are miracles.
Thank you so much, totally agree with you.
I thought the difference between a prophet and messenger was that all messengers are prophets that come with books. Idk about that "Bring something new" definition because by that logic Lut is a messenger since no one had done homosexuality before (therefore it is a new message)
Ali Algazali all massengers are prophets but all prophets are not massengers.
And the different is that the messenger comes with an new book and new legislation
There are 120 thousands of prophets have sent through history, 325 among them are messengers.
@@hamzahalharbi4566 It's the other way around. Prophets are given a book and wisdom and messengers confirm the books.
a prophet is someone who received revalation to uphold the current scripture that was revealed by the previous messenger. A messenger is someone who brings a new scripture with new laws, moses was a messenger, he brought new laws in the torah, yahya was a prophet, he didn't bring any thing new, but preached to continue to follow the message of the torah. Lut was a prophet, he continued to preach the message of abraham, which prohibited homosexuality, the prohibition of that practice isn't nay thing new
He can't talk like that in Saudi Arabia or they will put him in jail so he come to the west with the cramp
Sorry bad the koranist are in the rong and in a dangeres posision
Qurani: "we want to follow Quran alone".
Sunni: "following Quran alone misleads".
Where does shamsi say following Quran misleads ya jahil🤣 yall contradict urselves every 5 minutes. Cameron: ”Messengers come with an existing book” also cameron ”I never said that”😂😂
@@JT-kr5hf does he even look challenged?😅
Shamsi is the one here being challenged.
Shamsi: I'm asking about Criteria.
Kamran: The Quran is the Criteria.
Shamsi: "If I deliver something to you, in order for you to know how can I implement it, my implementation of that has to be outside the book, cannot be inside the book, otherwise I don't have to implement nothing because, if its my implementation already in the book, I don't have to practice it"
(Me: he's basically acting like as if Quran is some forgery book of hypocrites, Quran is the proof for itself, as it has challenges which even if all men and demons gather can't do those, so Quran itself is the proof for the Prophet, and it's the criterion with which we can expose imposter "prophets".)
Also I'm showing the sense of you ignorant sunnies in my first comment, you may not directly say it, but you literally mean it when you oppose those who just wanna follow Quran alone, so what's your problem with the Quran alone path? Do you think that we'll be mislead if we follow Quran alone? Yes, you do think so, that's why I said it. (Also you deliberately misquoted me, I used word Quran "alone", so rather you're strawmanning my position)
What you said about Kamran saying something, show me where exactly he said those 2 statements, perhaps you took it out of context as you sunnies don't like to look at textual context but you like to add outer opinions.
Wow Shamsi’s followers got very quiet when they got asked where in the Qoran you can find the first time it says obey Allah and his messenger wow... what an amazing way to show how horrible their foundation is.
Mot many people can give exact verse number and chapter numbers. Doesn't prove anything
Yooo Dam I think you’re missing the point.. if that is the MAIN foundation and the main argument to say no muslim can’t follow the qoran only, it is a bit strange not to being able to locate the verse, but yes I agree it doesn’t mean everything, it’s just very interesting that’s all.
I don't see how knowing the number of the verse is relevant, as long as you know it's in the Qur'an. I don't think back then they would memorize verses numbers.
Etymology of words and then when shamsi asked him where in the Quran that Allah command to obey him he couldn’t even answer. So it doesn’t prove anything. He is just playing around knowing that he can’t escape shamsi. Couldn’t even answer what is a messenger. He just kept comparing a messenger and a prophet and he even created his own definitions. So much of a qurani but made up his own definitions and not from the quran
O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.
The qur'an is the only hadith ..
*wheres the clear explanation of the Quran from Prophet Muhammad that Allah commanded him to explain to the people?*
It's sad that Allah needs hadiths..... I'm glad he's the all wise and I guess shamsi knows the quran like Allah's mercy
man this guy is so confused.com how the hell he get to that point..does he not hear himself
The problem is he will never admit that he has no basis
There is no root to his belief
It’s his own deluded interpretation and understanding
Just give up Kamran deep down you don’t believe it your just being stubborn sad
Seek The Truth their money is down the drain coz he is a complete clown
“Messenger comes with a message” he thinks he is too clever and remember the shaitan was clever too .....
Masho allah to the patience and restraint of our brothers 👌🏻
And you think you all are not shaytaan , why? The prophet Muhammad only followed the Quran and only preached what was only in the Quran.
omar farooq exactly and our beautiful prophet saws is a perfect example for us, we use his guidance and follow his actions on exactly how to worship allah swt 😊.
If you think that’s us being shaitan then I hope allah has mercy on you.
Imagine trying to understand the Quran on your own when you can’t read Arabic
It’s like reading instructions in a foreign language and trying to build furniture
You could maybe create something but really your gonna make mistakes
When will you lose your egos and appreciate allah sent a perfect human for us and we should be thankful
@@omarfarooq1350 Then why do you have a name of some body who’s not in the Qur’an. Because that great man according to you shouldn’t even be trusted since you don’t take hadiths…
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Also how do you know the Qur’an is not just made up by man then according to you. Because the same people who narrated the ahadith were those same people who passed down the Qur’an
The fact that Mohammad delivered a beautiful and an amazing book called Quran is more than enough to believe in him as a true messenger of God. Shame on shamsi to even question the prophet's authenticity, in a deed to protect some men written Hadith. He's clearly a non believer. No use in arguing with him. Allah knows better.
Sunni Muslims will discredit the Quran to make the point the Hadiths are authentic, this is the sad state of Muslims these days. Words that have been preserved and protected by Allah aren't enough for them - We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption) 15:9
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Ya jahil the same people that protected the Quran are the same people that protected the Hadith.
What i have noticed with those people are they follow their desires, they have nothing to Do with islam.
They are here to destroy islam. No doubt about that 😁
@@TheSlaveOfAllah1992 Allah protects the Quran, not men, are you saying men are better protectors of the script than God astaghfirullah. I rather take my source from Allah than unverified chains of narrations of men with desires tbh.
So according to your argument. How would you know the Qur’an we have now is the real Qur’an and is not man made or changed up…
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Because the same people who narrated the ahadiths. Are the same people who wrote the scribes and compiled the texts and passed down the Qur’an to generations and nations by the permission of Allah…
So if you don’t trust them. Then we shouldn’t trust Qur’an 100% either according to you…
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what about all the other prophets ? All of them are mortals, while the quran is the word of god almighty.
People are very misguided coz off most off these guys spreading the wrong words. Doesnt the book actually say it didnt come down with any miracles.
Donavan Naidoo recommend you to read it. Does it say that ? Or it doesnt?
yas khan ua-cam.com/video/ZuBHva4zo84/v-deo.html
Go through that if u feel u can prove the man wrong go call him n debate him....coz so far i see all the muslim people running in circles with CP
don't speak lies , Qur'an is FULL of miracles , all most of them proven scientifically
salah chelbi ua-cam.com/video/ZuBHva4zo84/v-deo.html
This Moroccan or Tunisian guy will never last in a debate where decorum must be respected. I guarantee it. He's too emotional and gets disrespectful when someone doesn't agree with him.
Typical bully. I would love to see this guy debate with men that aren't phased by the bravado.
All he and his "legions" do is interrupt and overtalk people; they play around with words and ask trick, rhetorical questions and pretend as if the person they're addressing is dumb for not understanding their nonsensical questions.
We need to humble, brothers.
Damn this shamsi is so disrespectful. No akhlaq at all. Are all suni's like that?
You wimp go sulk
@@abuyusuf12 i guess they are lol
Not all.. just some like Shamsi
Vat majority of them are like this
36:20 😂😂😂 when the Arab guy screamed some non sense out 😭😭 but naw man real shit u can’t just distort the verses of Allah and move on like nothing happened if someone accused you of distorting a verse with evidence you must let them say their accusation
That shamsi guy is ignorant he is using the sheep’s behind him as a crowd 😂 just sad
i need someone to respond, reply, refute, with a rational mind, not emotions. @00:55 the Quran is the instruction manual, when in the world or where, u get an instruction manual, and then an explanation for the instruction manual, and then further explanations .... till infinity. ?????? | "Our Obligation is no more than to convey the message clearly" (36:17),
so if we need an instruction manual to understand the Quran, then are we denying this ayat in Ya-Sin, where Allah has taken the obligation to convey his book to US, 'CLEARLY' ?????
SHAMSI sounded like an idiot here, and by the end, he was sounding like a mad man, if your deen is so strong, you would make your point and move on. You wouldn't get mad. The people around him blindly following him are the exact same people the Quran warn you against. Good Job, Kam for turning it around on the crowd to see if they really know what Allah has sent down to them as a guide.
According to the Quran are we allowed to hit our wife?
@@denohart4929 What kind of question is that? It tells you to do righteous deeds that would not be in line with a wife-beater, would it? Are you implying the Quran is not perfect and that Allah sent a book to mankind that was not fully detailed? Might you want to question your own faith before posting stupid questions on social media?
Sunnis will throw out the whole Quran to save one man-made scripture (hadiths); the Quran has warnings all of it for people like you.
So who is the real muslim here
ric chad Shamsi
How is shamsi a real Muslim stop cracking jokes, shamsi claims Quran is incomplete ?
Me and Kam
Kamran is because shamsi confirmed his a Sunni.
@@revelation333 sunnah is Islam.. you missing the whole point.
Shamsi is a poor example for a Muslim
Wallahi shamsi don’t understand himself he thinks he’s smart but he is blind may allah guide us all
No Name I don’t think you understand yourself either. U don’t even know ur name lol
Ohno Noho loooooool broooooooo ‘ shots fired ‘ 😂😂😂😂
Shamsi is a complete joker as he claims the Quran is incomplete?
Good. Fight each other out..
Get your fucking self out here
Shamsi is so arrogant. Annoying as well. I cant stand him...
If it wasn’t for these so called “ arrogant “ people clarifying the truth and exposing the falsehood and misguidance…
Then we would be a mash up like the past religions…
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That’s what makes us different from the Christians. That we clarify the truth and expose falsehood
Muhammad (pbuh)is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things. This is a verse from the Quran clearly showing that the prophet Muhammad is the last prophet but yet he says there will come another messenger after him while he claims to be a Qurani and he denies this verse
Can you not understand what you are saying what you are reading????? Are you that lost, totally? Of course you are you are a sunni LMAO
Isn’t this guy Qadiyani? 🤔
If it wasnt for hadith you wouldnt even know how to pray . Theres 1400 years between u and prophet pbuh and to pass down the method of praying they wrote it down with witnesses narrating exactly how he described it and so on . The hadith explains the quran bro the prophet didnt directly teach u. Whoever taught u if u go up the ladder they learned from hadith if not the prophet or sahaba themselves directly
This guy is a an absolute joke. How you gonna make outlandish claims and not provide any evidence! He defines messenger completely incorrect. Messenger is a person who delivers a message. Prophet is a highly regarded person someone who claims gods will. Also where in the quran does it say a messaenger will come again to promote the quran other the return of jesus?
SHAMSI HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF LOGIC HE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL....Cameron is very calm and logical. May Allah guide all of us to the right understanding of the quran
lmaoo what fliping logic you found in that kamran. You cannot be serious
i feel sorry for him
Shamsi says : the qur'an is not complete, we need the bukhari..
Allah say: the qur'an is completed .
The qur'an is the only hadith
The so called Muslims : shamsi is right 🤫🤫😂😂
Mad MULLA the Quran is complete. The prophet elucidates on it with his own commentary. It’s not that complicated but some people can’t get it.
The Quran is completed no complete there is a big difference if you understand English. It means the Quran has been fully revealed.
Shahadah
Allah’s Apostle said: “Islam is based on (the following) five (principles):
1. To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle.”
Sahih Bukhari 1:2:7
These are Muhammad's words and are not found within the Qur'an. Therefore, Islam’s First Pillar is utterly meaningless, and impossible to implement, without the work of Muslim historians Ibn Ishaq (704-770 AD) and al-Tabari (838-923 AD). If there is no definition as to what the Shahadah should be, it can be any arbitrary phrase in any language. In fact there are at-least three different shahadahs used by various Qur'anist sects.
Salah
“2. To offer the (compulsory congregational) prayers dutifully and perfectly.”
Sahih Bukhari 1:2:7
Once again, this is not feasible. The “compulsory congregational prayer” is not described in the Qur’an at all. In fact, the Qur’an says that there should be three prayers, none of which it depicts, and the Hadith demands five. The only explanation of the obligatory prostration is found in the Sunnah, and even then it is never described by Muhammad himself. Muslims are performing a ritual without Qur’anic precedence. As such, the Second Pillar is rubble. Qur'anists do not even agree upon the number of daily prayers that should be offered. The various number of prayers should be offered are 0, 2, 3 or 5. Also in the prayer itself, certain Arabic recitations and verses are recited. The Qur'an does not give specifications for these recitations so unless one follows hadiths and traditions, the recitations can be anything for a Qur'anist.
Zakat
“3. To pay Zakat.”
Sahih Bukhari 1:2:7
How is that possible when the terms of the Zakat are omitted from the Qur’an? The first to commit them to paper was Ishaq. A century later, Tabari referenced Ishaq’s Hadith. The only reason Muslims can pay the Zakat is because Ishaq explained it to them.
Hajj
“4. To perform Hajj.”
Sahih Bukhari 1:2:7
This is also impossible. The only explanations of the Hajj are found in the Sunnah. No aspect of the pilgrimage can be performed without referencing the Hadith. Muslims would be lost without it.
Sawm
“5. To observe fast during the month of Ramadan.”
Sahih Bukhari 1:2:7
Sawm, the final pillar of Islam is also not described in the Qur'an, the “perfect, detailed, and final revelation to mankind”. Though the Qur'an describes the fast, without the Hadith, Muslims wouldn’t know why Ramadan was so special to them. The accounts of the meaning of Ramadan are in the Traditions, initially chronicled by Ishaq and then copied by Bukhari, Muslim, and Tabari.
Strangely, the one pillar that is actually described in the Qur'an, is actually a borrowed pagan ritual Qusayy invented pre-dating Muhammad's Islam. Qusayy's family took a cut on merchandise sold during the “truce of the gods” fairs of Ramadhan.
I'm wondering if kamran prays Salah as it's one of the 5 pillars of Islam and if he does how does he??? 🤔🤔
Iram Rahman lot of quraniyoon don't believe in the legislated prayer
That’s my exact question . Does he pray and if so how ?
5 pillars!!!!!....really!!!!!!!!!The Quran is fully detailed, it tells you how and when and what to say in your salah.
Shamsi learned a new word and he wanted to show how implementation he was
The word he used, signs, he gave his own meaning to it, not the meaning in the english language dictionary.....
@@LondonWarrior that's how the muslims do everytime, making their own understandings and look surprised when no one understands. When they don't understand they say Allah is the all knowing. What I don't understand is how this cult members think they are going to heaven .
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👕👍 *Shamsi 'ACTS' like a scholar... what are his qualifications?* 🤔
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What do you mean. cuz he himself says that you should follow scholars
He is old enough to be your daddy 😂😂😂😂
More videos of those two xDD funny time
The end part ... lol memorable
quranist believe another messenger is coming???
No.......o
I am going to follow
this son of jurham's(shamshi) translation of quran.
Shamsi laughs at people when he is the real clown. I’m no fan of Islam whatsoever, but I get what the guy is saying. Why do Muslims NEED Hadiths to help them understand Quran? Did AL Lah rush it?
Read the Quran and you will understand why the Hadith is important, before you give your opinion in something you don’t know.
because everyone will interpret the quran according to his understanding !! and people understanding is subjective !! So the prophet make it clear for people to have the same understanding and to not differ !!! and many other things !!! the video is clear i dont know why you still asking
BK6 prod you’re right and that’s what happened to Christianity, even the trinity is not mentioned in the Bible but they made it as their fundamental believe.
Ahmed mohamed I’ve read enough of it to know it’s evil nonsense lol I can guarantee I know more of it than you 😬 My point remains; why are there over 2000 hadiths to help people understand the quran if it’s the word of AL Lah? And why are there so many which are considered “taif”? How do you know which ones can be trusted? And when a sahih Hadith contradicts a verse from the quran, which one do you go with: the command of AL Lah or Muhammad? 🤔 maybe it’s you who needs to take a closer look at the Quran, my friend x
BK6 prod haha ok and yet there are how many scholars’ tafsirs to help you? Every other Muslim will give you their own understanding anyway, so I struggle to understand the point of any of it.
the quranist says quran was here before muhammed pbuh lmaoo WHAT lmaoo this guy is lost
15:22 he asked shamsi that exact question 5 TIMES ,which shamsi danced around
If you watch the video... he does but kamran didnt like it
What were you watching????kamran the quranist was literally blowing bubbles
@@LolLol-ih8nf sad part is,in the early days of Our True Islam, it was the word of Allah given in the quran and to be rightly guided is to ALLAH ALONE!!!! When you have stiffnecked hypocrites, you will need more to get them right, like extra study points,which are called hadiths. Riddle me this,what's the different from the talmud and hadiths? ????? Literally, like ALLAH needs help to clarify HIS WORDS,REALLY???? ALLAH WILL SHAME A LOT OF PEOPLE, just watch.
@Annfal Ali the issue with muhammadist is that you worship the man,and really try to walk talk sit eat etc like muhammad(pbuta ). Was muhammad WISER than Enoch who walked with God? Your hadiths are training wheels for pagan arabs. ...... please don't forget where Islam started from. Yet the only way you can have any legal to stand on,IS THE QURAN,THE HADITHS DON'T VALIDATE THAT IT CAME FROM ALLAH!!!. Show where Allah's word are to take the hadiths are part of the quran? You are either a righteous believer or hypocrite, it doesn't say anything about quranist sunni or Shia, Allah will destroy all titles except, a righteous believer!
Shame on you SHAMSI. ...May I Allah guide you to the right understanding
O shut up, stop trying to stir the pot.
So, what is Mo's miracle? Splitting the moon?
There are many, not just that one
If you are looking for the truth it’s for everyone to see. Allah allowed The Prophet sallalualihiwaslam that when food or water was needed a small amount could suffice many many people.
And the beauty of Islam is that, not just 1 person saw this but many which is why it’s mutawattir.
Narrated `Abdullah:
We used to consider miracles as Allah's Blessings, but you people consider them to be a warning. Once we were with Allah's Messenger on a journey, and we ran short of water. He said, "Bring the water remaining with you." The people brought a utensil containing a little water. He placed his hand in it and said, "Come to the blessed water, and the Blessing is from Allah." I saw the water flowing from among the fingers of Allah's Messenger , and no doubt, we heard the meal glorifying Allah, when it was being eaten (by Them)
Sahih bukhari 3579
Narrated Anas Bin Malik
I saw Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) when the `Asr prayer was due and the people searched for water to perform ablution but they could not find it. Later on (a pot full of) water for ablution was brought to Allah's Apostle . He put his hand in that pot and ordered the people to perform ablution from it. I saw the water springing out from underneath his fingers till all of them performed the ablution
Narrated Hasan ibn Thabit:
, The Prophet asked for water and a tumbler with a broad base and no so deep, containing a small quantity of water, was brought to him whereby he put his fingers in it I noticed the water springing out from amongst his fingers." and I estimated that the people who performed ablution with it numbered between seventy to eighty."
Sahih Bukhari 200
Narrated Salim:
Jabir said "On the day of Al-Hudaibiya, the people felt thirsty and Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) had a utensil containing water. He performer ablution from it and then the people came towards him. Allah's Apostle said, 'What is wrong with you?' The people said, 'O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! We haven't got any water to perform ablution with or to drink, except what you have in your utensil.' So the Prophet (ﷺ) put his hand in the utensil and the water started spouting out between his fingers like springs. So we drank and performed ablution." I said to Jabir, "What was your number on that day?" He replied, "Even if we had been one hundred thousand, that water would have been sufficient for us.
@Iron Man well the Quran is the main one. And then you can find many others in the sirah. Just like the ones cited above by the brother.
@Iron Man the life of the prophet pbuh (the sirah)
@Iron Man who said anything about the moon falling in the backyard ? Why are you strawmaning?
I never talked about the moon, I was referring to the miracles which the brother talked about above.
As for the hadiths, they do mention the splitting.
Just shamsi said that the prophet invented prayers?
This guy is crazy.....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤒🤒🤒🤒🤒🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕
Kam : Ok , So one who delivers the message has to implement it, sah ! Because the message was conveyed to him to act accordingly.
From your own admission.
This is why we need ahadeeth because they are the "implementation" of the Quran from the creator to the messenger .
For example when the ayah came for salaah etc , So prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was taught the way to pray after the ayah was revealed , he taught the muslims around him and they complied ahadeeth so it can be conveyed to later generations to come.
So folks can act accordingly.
I don't understand the confusion.
"So here is the issue that needs to be clarified:Many people use the abbreviation “SAW,” “SAWS,” or “PBUH” to fulfill this obligation in their writing. Is this something that fulfills the obligation of sending the salaah and salaam on the Messenger? Let us look now to some of the statements of the scholars regarding this practice.
The Permanent Committee of Scholars in Saudi Arabia headed by ‘Abdul-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abdillaah ibn Baaz issued the following verdict when asked about the validity of abbreviating the salaah on the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam): “The Sunnah is to write the entire phrase “sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam,” since it is a kind of supplication, and supplication is worship, (in one’s writing) just as it is in one’s speech. So to abbreviate it using the letter SAAD or the word SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM is not a supplication nor is it worship, whether it occurs in speech or writing. For this reason, this abbreviation was not used by the the first three generations, those that the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) testified to their goodness.” [8]
“SAAD” and “SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM” are often used in some Arabic books. The English equivalents of these abbreviations would be: SAW, SAWS, SAAWS, PBUH, and the likes.
Al-Fayrooz-Abaadee said, “It is not appropriate to use symbols or abbreviations to refer to salaah and salaam, as some of the lazy ones do, as well as some ignorant people and even some students of knowledge - they write ‘SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM’ instead of writing ‘sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam.'” [9]
Ahmad Shaakir said, “It is the absurd tradition of some of the later generations that they abbreviate the writing of ‘sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam.'” [10]
Wasee Allaah ‘Abbaas said, “It is not permissible to abbreviate the salaams in general in one’s writing, just as it is not permissible to abbreviate the salaah and salaam on the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam). It is also not permissible to abbreviate either of these in one’s speech.” [11]
And Allaah knows best. May the most perfect and complete salaah and salaam be upon our beloved Messenger, and upon his noble family and companions.
"
FOOTNOTES
[1] written by Moosaa Richardson
@jay jay the speech of Muhammad sallalahu aleyhi was sallam is not the speech of Allah azza'wajal. And 5 obligatory prayers are taught to us from Qur'an and Sunnah. Stop making up fake information to make Islam look bad, you only destroy your credibility
there is not 1 hadith that tells you how to perform salaah, not even 1, so now you are talking from a place of complete IGNORANCE, i am more than certain you have never ever read the complete Quran from cover to cover, and if you have probably no more than a handful of times, you have never read you satanic collection of hadith, yet, you are so opinionated on Islam and The Quran what it says and what it does not. Kam is saying so much truth, as Quran only muslim myself, I totally agree with his stance, if he made any claims from outside of The Quran, I and many other Quran Only would pick up on it, but not you so called muslims. You so called muslims are anything but muslims, you are no different from the christians, 2 peas in the same pod. ha ha ha ha LMAO
Hadith Slayer The Quranist can masturbate freely since the Quran doesn’t mention it to be haram, The Quranist are lazy bunch of ignorant people, too lazy to pray five times daily, they want to go hajj and increase the number there without knowing what they are doing...If I was a moron enough I would have join them..
They don’t identify themselves as scholars
Shamsi: “idip ipskar… a khariji”
No he considers himself a hardcore Sunni SCHOLAR
I do sympathise with this brother, but you can’t make this stuff up can you. It’s nuts
This is the problem with the quran you need another book to understand is you need 600 thousand hadits where only 6 thousand are real.
The Qur'an's essential message is clear and understandable - even in translations: worship God exclusively, do good deeds. Non-essential periphery details can be expounded by the tradition of Muhammad (not hadith or books.)
@@thedawahacademy5508
This is a big problem
You can not understand the quran wit out the 300 years later hadits this is wat shamsi is saying.
The message need a explanation.
I know why this happend.
@@thedawahacademy5508
I gone to explain to you.
The quran is a Christian secterian book.
The real rasul allah the real ahmad was JESUS.
THE FINAL PROPHET OF ALL PROPHESIES.
THE REAL MOTHER OF THE BELIVER WAS MARRY.
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WOMAN IN THE QURAN
THE GOSPEL AND THE TORRAH WHERE IMPORTANT
AND THERE WAS A CLEAR TRINITY.
IT IS CHANGE BEFORE THE SO CALD MOHAMMED AND AFTER.
SOME SCHOLARS EVEN SAY THAT THERE WAS NO PROPHET MOHAMMED.
95 PRECENT OF THE VERSES THAT TALKS ABOUT MOHAMMED IS ABOUT JESUS. IN THE QURAN.
THE HADITS CAME LATER. EVERYTHING CHANGE.
MOHAMMED BECAME THE RASUL ALLAH
AND AISHA BECAME THE MOTHER OF THE BELIVERS
JESUS DID NOT DIE ON THE CROSS .
THE THORRA WAS CORUPTED AND THE GOSPEL.
AND FUNNY STORRYS ABOUT THE PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE.
WHERE IN INVENTED.
IN TO THE QURAN.
THE BEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE QURAN IS WITH THE BIBLE.
THROW THE HADITS AWAY.
@@thewordrevealsgod.7744 Thanks for sharing your colorful perspective. Peace.
@@thedawahacademy5508
No thanks i want you to be saved.
Answer yours zelf this question.
How do you know allah.
Is it because mohammed is your best friend and he told you the storry about the angel.
Is it because you have seen allah.
Ore is it because of his eternal word.
This brother appears quite feminie, not inidicating anything but may he be protected from shaytaan about his sexuality. You can tell right away, met many lgbt who reject hadith and have this quranist mindset
That’s why they’re always fighting each other. For this nonsense
Yes, so if i come to your house, and i say 'i am the real gianni', and another guy also enters your house and says 'no, i am the real gianni' and a few more chaps also enter your home and all say they're 'gianni' - is your solution to accept the identity theft and just sit down like a happy fool and make peace with all the fake 'giannis'?
We take our religion seriously, because we care a lot about what happens in our next life, and we unite on truth not on falsehood, so when someone comes with some nonsense to deceive others we expose regardless of what he chooses to call himself
Sam Wats There is no next life whatsoever. We’ll die and it will be over and forever. This according to reason which means science, because nobody has experienced afterlife, you just need to look at a dead to instinctively realize that that man or woman is gone forever.Religion in its plenty forms is a way to take comfort from this harsh reality
@@samwats7892 brilliant
@@giannidigianni4173 according to your limited knowledge bro...
What scientific studies have you done to have a better knowledge than mine and in what sense is your knowledge broader than mine? Because you have a book which states this and that without proving it?
Fithna
Aswrb from California. This brother needs assistance. We must be in the last days as there are many sects of muslims which are propagating falsehood. May Allah swt guide us all. Br.Shamsi, why do you spend time with individuals who continue to deny the haaq? Let it go and spend time on those who are willing to learn.
That guy is sick in his head he can't answer any question and he keeps believing that the nonsense he is saying is right
Seriously crazy individual does he actually listen to himself?????
Btw, he thinks that the quran is revealed in chronological order as the book we have now lol, for example he thinks fatiha is the first surah to be revealed and baqarah the second
19:10 - 19-30 pahahaha
Like I said you must don't know salifi publication history it's not about This guy it's his ugly attitude towards people in general he's young and out of control calling people khariji e c.t
Bismilaah, Alhamdulilah,
wa Salaatu wa Sallaam 'Alaa man laa nabiyu ba'dahu,
Assalafiyaah is the way because:
the salaf u salih would easily recognize the errors of these hadith rejectors and would easily refuted them right away.
Hawaa-ism makes you drown in your own desires because :
People who've discussed with these hadith rejectors have a hard time in a proper demolition of the falsehood these guys carried out.
Choose the right teachers because:
The great salafi Scholars of the past and present have given us the tools, but little are able to understand nor read a page without having their eyes popping out.
With out Taqwa and the right understanding of the knowledge you do more harm than good because:
It gives bad image to the dawah of Islam that everyone has a hard time refuting and explaining and as if they are looking for a new religion. So fear Allaah Al muntaqim. He is able to take revenge even upon your own self who is inviting to Islam without clear guidance.
This reminds me of the Favors of Allaah because:
One of the blessings of Allah upon this Ummah is that when someone refers to the quran without a sound understanding that it will expose him or her. The proof is the prophet peace and blessings be upon him closed the doors to misguidance and said "the one who ahdathaa (introduces) in this case of ours which does not belongs in it, it is radd (rejected) "
and
"the one who 'aamilaa (acts) upon something what our command does not support, it is radd (rejected)
He (peace and blessings be upon him, his family and rightly guided Muslims after him) , closed both ways of misguidance in this case through speech and actions.
Refuting the hadith rejector and the likes, which I've met before in the past:
With hadith rejectors like these you have to ask about subjects which all Muslims should acknowledge for them to validate their Islam.
Example a subject arise from the Quran and was only explained by Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him.
Q:"Do you believe that there's a punishment in the grave in a place between this world and the hereafter?"
A:"they have to reject because they didn't get the right understanding of the Quran."
and
"they will certainly say that they do not believe in it, because they don't find it in the Quran. Deaf stupid and blind they can not understand.
As a Muslim salafi, the scholars who I've followed their teachings gave the verses which explains that Allaah mentioned in the Quran concerning the punishment of the grave.That's where i can expose them properly with wisdom and evidence in sha Allaah subhanahu wa ta'aalaa .
There are three places:
This worldy life
The Hereafter
and
The place between the two which is called Barzag.
Allaah Subhanahu wa ta'aalaa says about firawn (the farao) : ٱلنَّارُ يُعْرَضُونَ عَلَيْهَا غُدُوًّا وَعَشِيًّا ۖ وَيَوْمَ تَقُومُ ٱلسَّاعَةُ أَدْخِلُوٓاْ ءَالَ فِرْعَوْنَ أَشَدَّ ٱلْعَذَابِ
يُعْرَضُونَ the right understanding from the tafaseer is present times and right now
in the morning and the evening.
The Farao and his allies who got killed by drowning are right now getting fire punishment in the morning and the evening until the hour will take place.
Pits of fire for the worshippers among the heretics and gardens for the disobedient among the people of Sunnah as mentioned by ahmad ibn Hanbal may Allaah have mercy on him.
تَقُومُ is something that takes place in the future in this case the Hour.
And the prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him said to Umm al mumineen 'Aa-ishaa may Allaah be pleased with her: " the punishment of the grave is haqq (truth)... "
And Allaah subhanahu wa ta' aalaa said :
وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ
"And what the messenger gives you, take it.. "
and
مَّن يُطِعِ الرَّسُولَ فَقَدْ أَطَاعَ اللَّهَ ۖ وَمَن تَوَلَّىٰ فَمَا أَرْسَلْنَاكَ عَلَيْهِمْ حَفِيظًا
"and whomsoever obeys the messenger, verily has obeyed Allaah, and whosoever turns away, we did not sent you (o, Muhammad) as a guardian"
and
وَأَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَالرَّسُولَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ
"And obey Allaah and the messenger so you will be shown mercy"
The ones who denies it, denies the Quran because:
Wat the messenger gives you, TAKE IT!
Peace and blessings be upon Muhammad, his family and the rightly guided from his ummah
Alhamdulilah.
And Allaah knows best
Refutation to the false claim that Hadith were written 200 years after the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him).
Evidence that the Hadith were written during the Life of the Prophet (Peace And Blessings of Allah be upon him), on his command and approval.
Abdullah Ibn Amr (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “I used to write down everything that I heard from the messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), intending to commit it to memory, I spoke about it to the messenger of Allah. And he said: “Write down, for I only speak the truth.” (Tirmidhi).
Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “None preserved more Hadith than me, but Abdullah Ibn Amr (May Allah be pleased with him) is an exception, for he used to write.” (Sahih Al Bukhari).
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “By Him In whose hand is the soul of Muhammad (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), write down, for only I only speak the truth.” (Sunan Abu Dawud).
Rafi Ibn Khadij (May Allah be pleased with him), said to the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), “I hear from you many things, should I write them down?” Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “You May Write, there is no harm.” (Tadrib Al Rawi).
Abu Rafi (May Allah be pleased with him) sought permission of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) to write Hadith, and he permitted him to do so. (Tirmidhi)
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) delivered a lecture on the day of conquest of Makkah and Abu Shaah, a Yemeni companion, stood up and said, “O Messenger of Allaah! Get it written for me.” The Messenger of Allaah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “WRITE IT for Abu Shaah.” (Al Luqatah, 2254, Tirmidhi 2667, Sahih).
Also, on another occasion when Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) was delivering the lectures on his Instructions, a companion said: “O Allah’s messenger! Get that written for me.” The Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) ordered the companions to write that for him (Sahih Al Bukhari).
Abdullah Ibn Amr (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated, Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Preserve knowledge.” He asked: “How should It be preserved?” Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) replied: “By Writing.” (Tirmidhi).
The great companion Muawiyah (May Allah be pleased with him) wrote to Al Mughira (May Allah be pleased with him), “Write to me a Hadith you have heard from Messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him).” (Sahih Al Bukhari)
The fourth rightly guided Caliph, Ali Ibn Abu Talib (May Allah be pleased with him) said about his compilation: “it deals with The Diyya (compensation (blood money) paid by the killer to the relatives of the victim), the ransom for the releasing of the captives from the hands of the enemies, and the law that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for the killing of (a disbeliever). (See also Saheeh Bukhari, Volume 004, Book 053, Hadith Number 397, Volume 009, Book 083, Hadith Numbers 040 & 50)
He further said: “...written in this paper which contains verdicts regarding (retaliation for) wounds, the ages of the camels (given as Zakat or as blood money) and the fact that Medina is a sanctuary in between Air mountain to so-and-so (mountain). So, whoever innovates in it an heresy or commits a sin or gives shelter in it, to such an innovator will incur the Curse of Allah, the angels and all the people, and none of his compulsory or optional good deeds of worship will be accepted. And whoever (freed slave) takes as his master (i.e. befriends) other than his real masters will incur the same (Curse). And the asylum granted by any Muslim is to be secured by all the other Muslims, and whoever betrays a Muslim in this respect will incur the same (Curse)." (Sahih Al Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Hadith 397).
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Write down, for I only speak the truth.” (Al Hakim)
Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated, Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Preserve knowledge by writing.” (Jami Al Bayan).
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Hear from me, and others will hear from you, and people will hear from them, who heard it from you.” (Sunan Abu Dawud 3659, Sahih)
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “May Allah brighten a man, who hears a Hadith from us, learns It by heart, and passes it on to others.” (Sunan Abu Dawud 3660).
Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated, Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Relate Hadith.” (Sunan Abu Dawud 3662)
Amr Ibn Al As (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) used to relate Hadith..” (Sunan Abu Dawud 3663, Sahih).
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “It is incumbent upon those who are present to inform about this (Hadith) to those who are absent.” (Sahih Al Bukhari)
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “It is incumbent upon those who are present to inform (about Hadith) to those who are absent, because those who are absent might comprehend what I say better than the present audience.” (Sahih Al Bukhari)
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Convey from me, even If It is one verse.” (Sahih Al Bukhari 3461)
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “He who is present here, should take this message (The Hadith) to him who is absent.” (Sahih Al Bukhari)
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “When I narrate a Hadith to you, then take it.” (Tirmidhi 2679)
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “May Allah gladden a man, who hears a Hadith from us, so he memorises it and conveys it.” (Tirmidhi 2656)
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “May Allah gladden a man, who bears a Hadith from us, so he conveys It as he heard it.” (Tirmidhi 2657)
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “May Allah beautify a man, who hears a Hadith from us, learns It by heart and passes it on to others.” (Tirmidhi 2658)
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “May Allah cause his face to shine, a man who hears a Hadith from us, so he remembers it and conveys it, and perhaps to whom It is conveyed it understands it better than the one who heard it first.” (Sunan Ibn Majah, Book of Sunnah, Hadith 232).
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Preach what you hear me say. Also let those who see and hear me, take upon themselves to communicate my words to others and preach to their children, relatives and friends.” (ISLAMIAT Book)
Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her) said: “Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) spoke in a distinct, clear manner, so anyone who listened to him could understand it.” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4839)
Aisha (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “The Speech of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) was so clear that anyone who listened to him, could understand it.” (Sunan Abu Dawud)
Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) used to repeat his speech multiple times to make sure that the companions memorised his Hadith.
Anas Ibn Malik (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “Whenever he [The Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him)] spoke a sentence, he used to repeat it thrice.” (Sahih Al Bukhari 94)
Anas Ibn Malik (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “Whenever the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) spoke, he used to repeat it thrice.” (Sahih Al Bukhari 95)
Abdullah Ibn 'Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him), the companion and the cousin of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), relates: “When the Messenger of Allah died, I said to one Ansari, 'Let us ask the Companions of the Prophet as there are still a lot of them.' He replied, 'Quite curious, don't you think, O Ibn Abbas, that people will be in need of you while a great number of the Companions of the Prophet are still surviving?' So I left him and started asking the Companions. Sometimes when a hadith was reported to me by anyone of them, I used to approach their houses and found them taking rest at noon. So I would rest my head on my cloak at their door while the wind blew dust on my face till the man came out and said: 'O cousin of the Prophet, what brought you here? Why did you not call for me so that I could come to you myself?' I would say: 'No, you deserve to be visited by me.' Then I asked him concerning hadith." [Mustadrak al-Hakim, 1/107]
Abu Ayyub al-Ansari travelled to Uqba ibn Amir to enquire about a single hadith that no one that remained alive had heard direct from the Prophet other than them. He said to the Governor of Egypt, "A hadith which I heard from the Prophet and now from those left alive no one except for me and Uqba heard it from the Prophet direct. So please provide me with anyone who can guide me to his house." The Governor sent for someone who directed him to Uqba's house who, on hearing the news of Abu Ayyub's arrival, came out hurriedly, saying, "What brings you here, O Abu Ayyub?" He replied, "A hadith about protecting a believer that I heard from the Prophet and no one else except me and you are left who heard it from him." Uqba said, "Yes, I heard the Prophet saying, 'Whoever protects a believer from being disgraced, Allah will protect him on the Day of Resurrection.' " Abu Ayyub said, "You have told the truth." [Al-Hakim, Marifat, pp.7-8]
The companions therefore, considered It their duty to preach the Hadith to those who had not seen or listened to him. A party of a student called Ashab-e-Suffah lived in the mosque Itself, and were specially entrusted with the teaching of religion to tribes outside Madinah. From
This group the most famous was Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him), who would remain in the company of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) at all times and store up in his memory everything that the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon) said or did. His efforts were, from the very beginning directed towards the preservation of the Hadith.
The Hadith were complied during the life of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him).
Compilation of the Companions written at the command/approval of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him).
1. Sahifa Sadiqa.
This was the compilation written by Abdullah Ibn Amr Ibn Al As (May Allah be pleased with him).
He wrote it at the order of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him).
Abdullah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “I used to write down whatever I heard from the messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), Intending to commit it to memory, I spoke about it to the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), and he said: ‘Write down, for I only speak the Truth.” (Tirmidhi, Sahih)
Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “None preserved more Hadith than I, but Abdullah Ibn Amr (May Allah be pleased with him) is an exception, for he used to write.” (Sahih Al Bukhari)
Amr Ibn Al As (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated, Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Preserve knowledge.” He asked: “...and how should it be preserved?” Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “By Writing.” (Mustadarak Al Hakim, Jami Al Bayan).
The compilation of Abdullah Ibn Amr (May Allah be pleased with him) was well preserved within his family, It has 1000 Hadith, all of It can be found in Musnad Ahmad.
2. Sahifa Sahiha by Humam Ibn Munabbeh (May Allah be pleased with him).
This well known Hadith compilation is by one of the Students of the great companion Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him). It contains 138 narrations which he narrated from Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) and most of Its Hadith can be found in Sahih Al Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. It’s copies are available in Damascus Library and Berlin Library. It has also been printed by Dr Hamedullah, and distributed through out world, and especially in Hyderabad, Deccan. All of It can be found in Musnad Ahmad, under the Hadith narrated by Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him).
3. Musnad Abu Hurairah.
This well known compilation was written during the times of Companions. It’s copy was with the father of Umar Ibn Al Abdul Aziz (Rahimullah), makes Abdul Aziz Ibn Marwan, the governor of Misr who died in 86AH. He also commanded Kathir Ibn Murrah, to command the people to write down every Hadith which they narrated from the companions. This copy was hand written by the great scholar of Islam, Shaykh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (Rahimullah), and that copy is available in a library in Germany.
4. Sahifa of Ali (May Allah be pleased with him).
This compilation of Hadith was written by the 4th rightly guided caliph, the cousin of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), Ali Ibn Abi Talib (May Allah be pleased with him). The Compilation As narrated by Imam Al Bukhari (Rahimullah), was of several volumes, and It had Hadith concerning Zakat, Islamic guidelines, Halal and Haram.
When asked about his compilation, Ali (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “It deals with The Diyya (compensation (blood money) paid by the killer to the relatives of the victim), the ransom for the releasing of the captives from the hands of the enemies, and the law that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for the killing of (a disbeliever).” (Sahih Al Bukhari 111).
He further said: “...written in this paper which contains verdicts regarding (retaliation for) wounds, the ages of the camels (given as Zakat or as blood money) and the fact that Medina is a sanctuary in between Air mountain to so-and-so (mountain). So, whoever innovates in it an heresy or commits a sin or gives shelter in it, to such an innovator will incur the Curse of Allah, the angels and all the people, and none of his compulsory or optional good deeds of worship will be accepted. And whoever (freed slave) takes as his master (i.e. befriends) other than his real masters will incur the same (Curse). And the asylum granted by any Muslim is to be secured by all the other Muslims, and whoever betrays a Muslim in this respect will incur the same (Curse)." (Sahih Al Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Hadith 397).
5. Sahifa of Jabir (May Allah be pleased with him).
This compilation if of Jabir (May Allah be pleased with him), his students Wahab Ibn Munabehh (May Allah be pleased with him) and Sulaiman Ibn Qais Lashkare, narrated Hadith from Jabir (May Allah be pleased with him), and It contained guidelines of Hajj and Khutbah tul Hajaj Al Widah.
6. Narrations of A’isha (May Allah be pleased with her).
These were written by her student, Urwah Ibn Zubair (May Allah be pleased with her).
7. The Letter of Amr Ibn Hazm (May Allah be pleased with him).
In a letter to ‘Amr ibn Hazm, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told the people of Yemen: “No one should touch the Qur’aan except one who is taahir (pure).”. (Reported by Maalik, 1/199; al-Nisaa’i, 8/57; Ibn Hibbaan, 793; al-Bayhaqi, 1/87. Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar (Rahimullah) said: “A group of scholars classed this Hadith as Sahih because it is so well known.
Imam Ash Shafi’i (Rahimullah) said: “It is proven that it was a letter sent by Messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him).” Ibn Abdul Barr (Rahimullah) said: “This Peter is famous among the scholars of Seerah, and it is so well known that scholars say it does not need an isnaad. It is like tawatur because the people accepted and recognised it.” Shaykh Al Albani (Rahimullah) said: “It is Sahih.” (Al Talkhees Al Habir 4/17, Nasb Al Raayah 1/196, Irwaa Al Ghaleel 1/158).
This letter also contained guide lines of Prayer, methods of prayer, details of ablution, times of prayer, booty, taxation, Zakat.
8. The Sahifa of Anas Ibn Malik (May Allah be pleased with him).
It was narrated by Saeed Ibn Hilal that Anas Ibn Malik (May Allah be pleased with him) said: “I heard this narration from Messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) myself, and I would write down and repeat it to the messenger of Allah (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), so that he would affirm it.”
9. Risalah of Samura Ibn Jundab (May Allah be pleased with him).
It was given to his son at his will, It was a great treasure.
10. Saad Ibn Ubadah (May Allah be pleased with him).
He knew how to read and write from the time of Jahliyyah.
11. Matoob Naf’i.
Suleiman Ibn Musa narrated that Abdullah Ibn Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) narrated the Hadith and Imam Naf’i (Rahimullah) would write.
12. Book of Abdullah Ibn Masud (May Allah be pleased with him).
Ma’an (Rahimullah) narrates that Abdul Rahman Ibn Abdullah Ibn Masud (May Allah be pleased with him) took out a book and said: “My father wrote this.”
13. Sahifa Bashir Ibn Naik.
Bashir Ibn Naik (May Allah be pleased with him) was also a student of Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him), he also wrote a book on Hadith and showed it to Abu Hurayrah (May Allah be pleased with him) and he verified it.
14. Compilation of Ibn Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him).
Abu Râfi' (May Allah be pleased with him) sought permission from the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) to write Hadith. The Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) permitted him to do so. [Jâmi' Tirmidhi]
It is reported that the Hadith written by Abu Rafi' were copied by other companions too. Salma, a pupil of Ibn 'Abbâs says:
I saw some small wooden boards with 'Abdullâh Ibn 'Abbâs (May Allah be pleased with him). He was writing on them some reports of the acts of the Holy Prophet which he acquired from Abu Râfi'. [Tabaqât Ibn Sa'd]
Abdullah Ibn 'Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him), the companion and the cousin of the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), relates: “When the Messenger of Allah died, I said to one Ansari, 'Let us ask the Companions of the Prophet as there are still a lot of them.' He replied, 'Quite curious, don't you think, O Ibn Abbas, that people will be in need of you while a great number of the Companions of the Prophet are still surviving?' So I left him and started asking the Companions. Sometimes when a hadith was reported to me by anyone of them, I used to approach their houses and found them taking rest at noon. So I would rest my head on my cloak at their door while the wind blew dust on my face till the man came out and said: 'O cousin of the Prophet, what brought you here? Why did you not call for me so that I could come to you myself?' I would say: 'No, you deserve to be visited by me.' Then I asked him concerning hadith." [Mustadrak al-Hakim, 1/107]
It has also been narrated that Ibn Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him) wrote many books of Hadith narrated by Abu Rafi (May Allah be pleased with him), to him.
circular reasoning, trying to prove the authenticity of hadith with another hadith ha ha ha ha LMAO
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Kamran just seems insincere
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I swear to Allah this guy is not Muslims.
Konfused kamaran
Shamsi is the confused one .