Small Sportbike Tire Comparison With KTM RC390 | MC GARAGE
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2015
- Small-bore sportbikes like KTM’s new RC390 and Yamaha’s R3 are making a big splash, and tire manufacturers are taking notice. Michelin, Bridgestone, and Shinko have all recently released rubber in 110 front section widths and 140 and 150 rear section widths suitable for small-displacement sportbikes. That’s adding to existing options from Pirelli and IRC, which means consumers now have lots of tires to choose from.
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In this special off-site episode of MC Garage, Road Test Editor Ari Henning will evaluate the sporting capabilities of Michelin Pilot Street Radials, Bridgestone S20 Evos, Shinko SR 880/881s, Pirelli Diablo Rosso IIs, and IRC Road Winners so that you can make a more informed purchasing decision when it comes time to replace your tires.
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Need an updated version of this test with todays tyres and newer ktm 2017-2021 or ninja 400 !
I'm pretty sure the new RC390 uses the same sized tire still
I tried to finish off IRC road winners with a burn out once.. I ran out of gas.
+Alex S LOL, man I actually bust out laughing after reading this... good stuff. I have them on my recently acquired Ninja 250 and I've taken them to the edge on parking lot drills, so definitely okay grip for stock tires.
I'm surprised you did t run out of top end first...
Got a 8 year old set on my CBR250R; definitely need to be replaced by now but I'll replace them with more IRC's.
This episode is brought to you by Bridgestone tires. Performance on the edge.
Very informative, good tire reviews are rare.
this is a fantastic review, honest informative , and just cool , great idea testing smaller tyres, well done lads keep it up
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Great review. I own a 1988 VTR250 and there has always just been but a few choices available. Now manufacturers have found a new rider category and the tire folks have come through.
How about comparing the Dunlop Sportmax GPR-300....maybe a little update to this video??
Cant wait to try out the S20 EVO! thanks for the review!
Just bought an RC390... this was a great review!!
COOL! Just bought the S-20 Evos and didnt really get any reviews.. .but this is GREAT!
Great upload guys. Am planning on buying RC soon. So this was useful for me
Honestly i could watch you review tires all day
Great tire test. That little bike looks so fun to blast around on.
you defenitly want the best tyres for a bike iff u are going to lean over and play at the limit! thanks for great review guys :) il recomend brigdestones s20 evo tires to my shop ;) and friends :)
Good informative video. An overview (image) of all five at the end would help though.
Thanks.
New Rosso II's on my Aprilia RS125. Great handling tyre, super happy with the confidence they inspire. Definitely have to look at the Shinko next time though, that price point is insane!
Thanks for this very useful video!
This is the best video for KTM/Kawasaki tyre choice!
thanks for the information I have bridgestone tires only for my ktm rc390 they are awesome
I've got the Michelin Pilot Street radial and as you said, they're really good in the rain and last a good 15'000km (a bit under 10k miles), you can still use them on twisty roads if you don't put crazy angles which you shouldn't on open roads ;)
Thanks for this. Very handy. Ever since michelin discontinued their single compound pilotpower road sport I've been curious to find out what else suits. Have tried the s20s and found them good, but not as good as the michelin road sports i used to have.
Good no bull dust comparison, thanks.
Awesome review. Thank you!!
Hi, great video, Thanks.
May I ask why the Metzeler Sportec M5 Interact have not been featured here. They are stock here in India and I am assuming other countries as well. They are pretty awesome soft compound tires as well. Would be nice to see how they match up to the US / UK spec tire.
Thanks & keep the videos coming...
Need to update this video comparing the new Michelin Power RS and the Dunlop GPR-300.
great video, i couldnt say enough about how important tires are on any bike especially these little sportbikes that people often start out on. more grip and control is the kind of confidence a new rider needs out of their tires. i started out on a 2008 ninja 250r with some sort of cheap stock shit tire kawasaki chose and i just thought that kind of tire performance was normal until i upgraded to a more expensive michelin brand
Good 1, was really helpful :)
Shinko tires are the #1 tire I sell at my shop. Best bang for your buck for the everyday street rider!
Zig Ray I hate those tires on my RC-51
I bought a used 2016 Goldwing with the expectation of new tires before I took ownership. I thought I’d get the OEM tire but they put the Shinko touring tire on it. I didn’t go 50 miles before I put new tires on it. They would have killed me. I thought the shop installed the wrong Shinko as the sidewall couldn’t handle the weight. I was wrong as their website called out that tire for the Goldwing. I’ll never use anything but Dunlop again.
i just ran out of my new tires and wanted to try something else . i used diablo rosso II . im gonna try bridgestone and see if its as good as my pirelli or should i switch back . thank u for ur helpful review btw😁🧡❤
Nice clip as all from MC Garage :-).
As bridgestone now have new model S21 that is supposed to be S20 replacement. Could you do short comparison of these two?
good review keep it up
Great video! But I have one question: what rear tire size would you recommend for 2015 duke 390? Stay with stock 150 or go down to 140?
More tire choices for my supermoto! 😍
Great reporting
Can you do an updated list for all categories of bikes? It’s hard to find real reviews like this.
whats ur take on metzellers... as they are being standard with rc 390 in India??
After hearing spacepods review on the rosso 2 being a new rider, I bought them and loved them as I have a lot more experience on bikes and have tried different tires. Hands down the bstone s20 evo is king. Grips better and lasted me 3 months rear compared to 1 month with the rossos. I am a track oriented guy and love the s20 evos and now the s21 for my 750. Pirellis wear extremely unevenly. If you buy the rossos once you pass 1500 miles check your tire, pref when cleaning your chain to spin the tire and check it out. The pirelli will look fine until you get to the other side and see where your cords are about to pop through. Looks like the middle of the tire is splitting open for those who don't know.
The Michelin Pilot Streets are really let down by that rear tire. The problem gets even worse when it gets a little wet. The rear has AWFULL grip in the rain. It feels really good and planted untill you give it just a smidge of lean angle. At that point the rear end completely loses grip and you have to do a big correction to not lose it.
If they can find a way to fix the weird grip levels in the tire I think it would probably be the best "around town tire" for small cc sport/naked bikes.
Wet weather riding becomes really scary when 80% of the intersections in your town are roundabouts.
running a 160/60-r17 on the back of my 2016 r3 and the stock 110/70-r17 on the front, Both are Michelin pilot power 2CT tires i had to ditch the 140 rear as they do not make this tire that small, Bike is day and night compared to the stock pilot streets and even the two sets of pilot street radials i had, Definitely worth it to get the good tires.
The RC's comes with metzeler tire in India by default. Any idea where it stands in comparison ??
are the rosso ii 140 's different than the 150's or its the same deal all around?
No Pirelli Supercorsa SC? or Dunlop Alpha-13? I swapped the stock Metzeler M5's on my RC390 with the Alpha-13's and the Alpha-13's were much better, the M5's feel like a reasonably sticky road tyre, where the Alpha-13's feel like a road legal track tire.
If grip is your primary concern then I would get either one of these two tires.
Could someone please do a test run with Metzeler, Pirelli and MRF in the future? Just eager to know how will they perform as compared to the other mainstream brands out there...
I wish you included some dunlops also. I got my ninja with gpr 300
Can you do a separate video comparison of the Bridgestone S20 Evo's to the Dunlop Alpha 13's?????!!!!
The ktm 390's comes stock with Metzeler types in my country which are pretty awesome.
Ari, how about a comparison between small bike track tires? I would love to hear your opinion of the Bridge-stones VS Alpha 13's Vs Pirelli Super Corsas. Also, why doesn't bridge stone have the r10 in small bike sizes in the states?
Thanks a lot
I am looking to get new set of shoes for my R3, your review has really helped. You didn't comment much about Pirelli 140 rear. We get here 110/70 and 140/70 here in India, but a H rated one. Would really like to know how would it fair against the M7rr 110/70 and 150/60? Would be kind of you if you can help make a decision here.
When are you guys gonna do an updated tire comparison? Got the Rossi 3s, Alpha 13s, and a few others.
Honda really needs to do something with the baby CBR to make it competitive with the Ninja and R3. Tires alone aren't enough to save it.
+GT6SuzukaTimeTrials Rumors say 2017 CBR250RR to start production in August. But still, rumors.
Oh I hope that happens. I love the CBR250R with Repsol paint. I just want more power and/or less weight without having to modify.
Death666wish they're available atleast on asian market and they look brilliant!
can you please do a short comparison with the metzeler tyres because thats what comes stock on the ktm duke 390's here in india. thanks in advance
plz can you make a new video about new tyres which is best for 2022
Could you please review Michelin Pilot Power 3 and Metzeller M7RR?
I'm getting Rosso III's. Do you reccommend 140/70 or 150/60?
I only care about feel/grip/handling (disregard wear, price, strightline stability or looks)
Thx!
Please tell us you'll be doing a medium and large sport bike tire comparison tooooo!!
Ari, are you considering to test those tires on streets or rainy conditions? If you did already, what was your experiments? In Turkey, we always choosing to use most soft tires like Rosso II and Pilot Street and avoiding to use IRC's
it will be good if you try IRC iz-s. I am using it with my cb300. the price is about $200. and it work so well. you have to try it and and you will believe me that it is good! please try it.
I've got the S20's on my wr250x and am thinking about getting an RC390 for the weekend/track and I'd not hesitate for a second to put the new S21's on that bad boy.
nice subiective test but whers telemtric ? i want now how much diffrence in time is bettwen this tire on track best test be also with braking data and with speed and time around circle let say 46 m diameter .
I personally recommend Bridgestone they are doing great
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is pirelli diablo rosso 2 better than metzeler Sportec m5 for KTM Rc390
Hey Man !
Can You tell me more on slick tires ? Thanks !
Any idea on how they would compare with Metzeler Sportex M5 which are the standard fitment in India and, I believe, in Europe as well?
alright, im getting a set f s20evo for my r3 to replace the numb feeling street pilot
Thanks bro
which one is very suitable for cornering
I just saw the video! and I'm surprise that IRC RoadWinner price there was over 200$, here in Indonesia (its manufactured here I believe) only cost 80$-90$ per sets, and yep all 250cc bikes comes with that tires!
WicakSOUNDno haha, jadinya overpriced
faisal ramadhan iya bro, di US trnyata IRC roadwinner seharga battlax wkwkwk
seharga battlax tp rasanya jauh :v
Guess I will not be changing my roadwinner
Itu radial, di Indonesia banyaknya yang bias
I'm looking for tyres in this size range for my WR250X motard. Should be the same requirements. I wonder how the Conti Attack SM fits in with this hierarchy?
Awesome!
So witch tires u recommend for everyday driving all wheaters ? I am 230pounds , with a 300cc 2016 ninja and i like to take turns normal fast
i'm using a pair of Dunlop Alpha 13 and even now in Winter the perform quite good, but still i don't have the full experience of riding in awful conditions in the highway!
I was planning to use the GPR300 for this conditions but i think i'm gonna wait with this 2... also very useful for the "amateur race" in trackdays and race tracks
Make sure to regularly check for tire cracking. Bridgestone BT 45s have been known to crack from cold weather.
ty for the advice
What about braking performance, on road sudden emergency breaking is a big factor between stopping or falling
Good review as always. I'm rocking the Pirelli Diablo Rosso IIs on the Ninja 300. I suppose it would be safe to try the Bridgestones despite going up a size from 110/140 front and rear? I'll have to research it. I wasn't too fond of the IRC Roadwinners, and the IRC is 3.1 lbs. heavier than the Pirelli Diablo Rosso rear and don't warm up as quickly. To me, that's reason-enough to upgrade without wearing-out the IRCs first.
***** The Bridgestone S20 EVO is offered in stock sizes. You will want to move the rear up to a 150 though, I am running a 140 rear and you have enough grip that you can lean beyond the edge of the tire. I just ordered a 150 that should be at my door in the next hour or two, and it is cheaper than the 140 somehow.
+Riley Keehr: Hey can you tell me how the 150 will handle against the 140?? Personally I think the Center wears down JUST a TAD too fast. My hope is the added rubber to the road will last longer up center and have more available Traction at the edges of the tire.
+spacep0d Yeah Bro the Editor is right. After Riding the 2013 ZX-6R636 for a 1.5/2yrs 3 months as my First bike then just Hoping on to the Ninja 300 after 5 months of experience (last September) I was scrapping the pegs. Not to be bragging..... But in all Seriousness the "Chicken strips" where gone and the Front tire you can barely see them. That was After riding the bike for 1-2 months once it finally broke in.( about May) So yes Truly they Are Amazing Tires!!! If you also do a lot of Twisties or Flowing long turns the wear characteristics are Pretty Good! True I do think the center wears a little fast. But rightfully so I"m not the only riding that particular 300 since my Wife does more Straight line riding considering the routes of Last year. But yes Amazing Tire and Great all around everything Street to Track.
It doesn't effect the center wear at all. I did swap to a 150 and it is much better at max lean angle, I still have a hair of untouched rubber on the edge so it made a huge difference of corner contact patch compared to the 140.
+spacep0d I run the Pirelli on my RC390. Best tire I have ever used haha. I am considering the Bridgestones... but they aren't that much more affordable, and I already know I like the Pirelli.
The IRC RX-01 road winner compound type are soft or medium-soft..?? my bike yamaha R25 comming with this kind of tyre but i think In my country is medium-soft. Is it safe for race.?? Thx for response
Ari - I know Dunlops were not included in this review. Would you still stick with the S20 EVOs over the new Dunlop GPR 300 or ALPHA 13s?
So does a rounder profile allow more grip at leans? Or is a flatter profile better?
where does the Metzeler Sportec M5 interact stand among these tires? rather which is better metzeler or pirelli diablo rosso 2???
What about an updated review? Since now there are new competitors such as dunlop alpha 13 and Michelin power rs
hello how about a question which tires are better for the ktm rc 390 2016 the metzeler Sportec street or the metzeler sportec m5 interact thanks
what will be the result if i use metzeler stock in front and rosso2 on back i m thinking to put like this need suggestion
What tire pressures do you recommend when running the S20 Evo on the street? Still sporty riding, just not full on track riding.
what abt the stock metzeler tyres on rc n duke 390???? i heard they r the best don't change them.... is the Bridgestone better than metzeler???
Hey, what's the stock tire set u get on the RC 390? Am from India & we get metzelar as stock tire set for both RC & Duke 390..
I have an RC390 with the stock metzeler tyre. what tyre pressure do you recomend me for the track? cold o hot? thank you
Where did you end up buying the S20s from? I couldn't find any S20s in 150 rear! I ended up buying Pilot Power 2 CTs.
howcome you didn't test the Metzeler sportec M5s? They come stock with the bike here in India and I personally feel that they are great tyres however since I am new to bikes and this is my first bike, I haven't tested any other tyres in the category. I'd love to know what Ari has to say about them he's kinda like an idol for me :P
Ishaan Aggarwal m7's are best
M7's are best used on tracks. Waste of money if using for daily commute
I use Michelin pilot street as a daily driver and believe me when i say this, they are better than stock metzeler H rated!
Suck up my Michelin power rs is better
Is the pirelli diablo rosso ii 140 grippier than the 150?
According To Your Opinion between Pirelli Rosso 2 And Michelin Pilot Street.Wich Tyres Is Best For The Street Riding And Daily Commuting?
I am looking for the best combo on a 250 sm for grip not milage. I would like to run a 130 110 combo on 17s and I can't find alot of choices. What's your top pic? any other input would be appreciated.
Which is the best rear tire for Ktm 390?suggest!
where do the Metzler sport tech m7rr fall on the list ? just curious cause the come stock on the rc 390.
i was watching reviews on the Michelin Pilot Street Radial tires front and rear for my 2015 Honda CB300F, mainly for winter time, lots of heavy rain here in California. But now you got me thinking since the Michelin came last on your review :/ now idk
The Michelin street radials are good for everyday street riding and are reasonably good in rain. I've clocked 7500 km on them till date and haven't had a single puncture, whereas a riding buddy who uses the Pirellis has had multiple punctures. But grip wise, the Pirellis are better
Any chance you could do a sport touring tire review like this for these small bikes? I was going to get some of the shinkos from this video to have good but affordable tires, but I don't have a track by me so was wondering which would be some good tires for some back roads riding. I only ride for enjoyment, but I am putting alot of miles on my r3 so it would be nice if they lasted a little longer than the sport tires
ah I will probably just get the Shinkos when mine wear out, they just a really nice price and still decent
Suggest me for Ktm RC 390 tyre for street ? Which is best ???
Rosso are street tires. Check out supercorsas for race track!!!!
Is it some regulation rules in Europe regions....have always seen ktm rc 390's having their blinkers on the fairing where as in India we have good looking blinkers integrated with the side mirrors itself and both of them are led blinkers
can you tell me the width of the rear rims with the caliper tool? i want to have the exact measurement thank you so much
R3 should I orde 110 in the front 140 in the rear ?