Rookie Mitchell Hooper VS Prime Eddie Hall - Who Was Stronger???
Вставка
- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Continuing the series, let's see how I'd stack up against Eddie Hall.
If you feel stuck, get started on your strongman program below.
www.mitchellhooperstrongman.c...
Pick up your LHBK shirt below!
www.mitchellhooperstrongman.com/
Clothed by TYR - www.tyr.com/
Supplements by Perfect Sports - perfectsports.com/
Training Equipment by Evolution Athletics - shawstrength.com/pages/evolut...
Mouth Guard by AirWaav - airwaav.com/
Energy by Reign - reignbodyfuel.com/en-us/
BFR Cuffs - ca.saga.fitness/
Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to the channel
Lift Heavy Be Kind
Music by MusicBed -
#LHBK #LiftHeavyBeKind #strongman #powerlifting #fitness #bodybuilding #gym #strength #deadlift #crossfit #workout #motivation #squats #strengthtraining #training #power
00:00 Eddie Hall's stats and facts
00:56 Events for the mock contest
01:08 Eddie Hall 500kg deadlift
01:25 Who is stronger overhead?
03:07 Mitchell Hooper 500kg yoke
04:04 Who had better grip?
04:27 Mitchell hooper 140kg db press
05:00 Who was the faster strongman?
05:30 Who was better at stones??
05:46 Conclusion and final thoughts - Спорт
I’d have to disagree with the log. He almost strict pressed 230 with a broken ankle and strict pressed the 216 axle wr. I’d say you’d take him on pretty much any moving event though
i agree eddies pressing was pretty insane.
That 213kg was easy for Eddie
if he had leg drive i see no reason why he wouldnt get the 230kg log, even if he did use a little
Eddie would win squats and deadlifts event, also wouldn't be too sure about the matle stone event
agree, Eddie has one of the strongest shoulders ever in WSM
I'd only dispute the log press, Eddie has insane static strength as seen from his 216 kg axle press. That being said, since this is an average of all events, you could have still won it.
For reps at all weights I’d say they’re pretty even based on results
Let's see where prime Hooper gets to. Overall well rounded guy for a light weight even though I think Eddie better at the log, max weight for sure. On the shawstrength podcast he mentioned he didn't even have strongman equipment to train with until later on so it was mainly commercial gym. STATICALLY strongest strongman. Zydrunas could give him a run overall. Deadlift Took Hafthor 4 years later when Eddie already retired. Eddie, Benny, and Hafthor best deadlifters peak wise. I'd be curious to know how well Brian and Zydrunas could have done if they stopped chasing the Titles between the two and focused mainly on the records.
Eddie almost got the 230 log press, what pooper hooper is doing here is comparing 2015 Eddie hall which we all know isn't his prime, also Eddie is a static monster no point in comparing reps.
That being said we probably haven't seen prime Hooper, maybe he can get better or maybe he's hit his peak already, time will tell. Best of luck to him.
@@dheer730 log for reps is much more common than log for max, he’s predicting how they’d match up against each other in a generic average strongman competing using the more common event
216kg Axle press world record just doing this as an event for the world record at weight of 190kg, when Big Z did 215kg at a competition with 160kg bw :)
compare that static strength to Big Z my friend
I think you could definitely beat Eddie over an average full comp, but there’s no way you take him on the log.
His max and rep PRs dramatically understate how strong he really was overhead at his peak.
His log for reps aren’t deceptive at all, his best log for reps is 158x7 Mitch’s best is 150x8
His max is definitely deceptive but for reps they’re pretty even and with lighter weights I’d definitely give Mitch the edge over prime (2016-17) Eddie because of conditioning
why do they dramatically understate how strong he reall was overhead at his peak? @joshrud9756
It's debatable for sure. Should prob be a draw
@@jaycolucci because for reps he was on par with other good pressers and his comp pr was 213kg which isn’t really considered to be that crazy, no one understated how strong he was overhead, I’d say he’s the second strongest overhead presser ever after big Z but result-wise he wasn’t
@@dantethunderstone2118 158x7 is way better than 150x8.
The real question is - how much higher will prime Mitchell Hooper be?
🤔🤔🤔
I'd say you're no where near prime yet, you're still pretty young imo
Rookie hooper needs to focus only on strongman and improve on weak areas. He has great potential to become a goat.
The thing with the log is, Eddie was injured and he intended to still go for the 230kg. But he lost balance twice. He got it up the second time but it still didn't count. It's truly unfortunate.
I think with current WSM Events you would easily win against prime Eddie. When we take competitions like the Shaw Classic however... I think he would have eaten you as a sidesnack for dinner. In fact, I think with proper preparation he would still smoke 99% of the competitors in that event.
I've always felt like Eddie would perform much better at powerlifting rather than Strongman.Statically,he was and might still be one of the strongest human beings ever imo,but he always lacked a lot in terms of endurance and speed,he had brute strength but nothing else.
Yep, I'm amazed he never transitioned to Powerlifting
@@TheImmenseFenceHe likes the spotlight, powerlifting isn’t big enough for him, I think he even talked about it in some video
So what you're saying is, he was great at actually being strong.....
Don’t think he was ever a big bench presser but his squat and and deadlift would have been more then enough for him to do a ton of damage in a powerlifting comp.
@@brandonm4550 Nah bro there is a video of him bench pressing exacts 300kg.And he also could do 265kg for 6 reps.He would definetily put up more than a ton in a powerlifting comp.
lol eddies 213k log looked like a warm up rep
I think in pure strength movements Eddie was stronger in his prime. Like deadlift, squat, bench, and overhead press. But in his prime he maxed out his body, and I think you’ve only scratched the surface of what you can do max strength wise. I’m excited to see what you do in the future.
Eddie was significantly “stronger” but was also what, 50 pounds heavier? Mitch has him beat on speed and endurance. He’s at the point where he’s likely trying to maximize strength while maintaining his other attributes, while there was a time that Eddie went all out on strength
@@shaqitup Agree, Mr. hooper is as the advantage with lifts that involve lots of technique and movement. I bet his power clean is very good
@@shaqitup More like at least 100 pounds heavier. Not that bodyweight matters in the standings or records.
@@shaqitup so you are saying Eddie was ''stronger'' and Mitch is ''faster'' , it always makes me feel like everyone is missing the point , ''strongest man'' is not fastest enduring man'' you want faster and enduring then go look at table tennis or just tennis you will be amazed at how fast and enduring they are...
I'd say he wins the log for his attempt at 230kg (while injured) after winning Worlds. Basically, he would beat you at any overhead, squat, and deadlift while you would win all other events.
It was 230. The record stood at 228
You definitely would beat him on many events, but with all due respect, Eddie was a hell of a lot stronger than you and everyone else in the gym. Squatting, pressing, and deadlifting in the gym he was unreal. It’s a tragedy we never got to see 2016 Eddie do a powerlifting meet.
Always loved watching Eddie in the static events, was an absolute monster.
To be fair, I think you could have replaced the frame carry with a squat for reps. Probably replace the log with an axle press. You'd get a way closer matchup then.
I haven’t had the opportunity to do a squat or axel in comp. I’m exited for either! I want to keep it based on the data not hypotheticals!
@@mitchellhooperstrongmanI like that you based these on events done. Rather than what could be done in events you have not done in competition. That's fair to you and your strongman opponents in these matchups.
log and frame carry are waaaaay more comen then squat for reps and axle tho
Eddie was way stronger than you on the log, get real. Doesn't make sense to compare Eddie's performance when he wasn't in his prime. How about him almost beating the world record? Are you anywhere close to even getting 230 kg to your chest?
You forgot to measure who is more hydrated in this one.
Wow, never realized how close you two were, and you still have so many years to go, mad respect and love your love of kindness!
I really like these comparison videos. Excited to see where you'll be in your prime 💪
You and me both! 👀
Love these videos and can’t wait to see whose next.
People forget how much Eddie improved from 2015-17.
Looking at his 2015 results isn't really comparing to "peak Eddie".
Enjoying this series.
Getting closer to 100k subs. Nice work
Great series you have going on right now. It's is fun, innovative, gets easy views, and you have so many people you can go against for an endless supply of content.
would have loved to see eddie in a contest like the Shaw classic. He did really well in those static strength events.
Great series
Everything can and always will be disputed but it must be very satisfying to be able to compare yourself and beat some of the greats and i see your amazing potential. This will be fun to look at in the future when you have far surpassed yourself, You should be proud
Really enjoying these videos. As someone who doesn't really know you yet, but that is a big fan of past champions and follows Eddie and Bryan nonstop, these videos are kinda putting you in the spotlight and showing that you are pretty humble, which makes for good role models. It's crazy to me to see how much bigger Thor and Bryan seem compared to you but your numbers are right there with them. Looking forward to seeing you lead us into the future.
Another awesome vid moose. I hope you do a comparison vid against brian shaw in his prime. Big z too. Loving this series and thank you for doing it.
If speaking pure strength, Eddie.
Really like this new series
More to come! 💪
Your genetics and knowledge should take you to places people have never seen before, knowledge is power, hope you can keep going for a long time to come 😊
Data is good. I like data. Would love to see a Mateusz Kieliszkowski comparison!
You are literally one of the most well rounded strongmen right now, so making it extremely hard to beat in a competition,
you will stay competitive for a long time.
I personally compare Mitch to Pudzianowski and I never see anyone make that comparison and I'm not sure why. They're both crazy strong and crazy conditioned, lighter than most of the competition, and Mariusz won a lot of contests.
@@outshimed Pudzianowski is a fantastic comparison! Similar in stature and weight to Mitchell, same lean build and excellent understanding of body mechanics. One of the reasons Mariusz was so good in strongman was because he was healthy enough to show up every year and give 100%. Mitchell's focus on health and longevity, along with his age, feels like the foundation for a new winning-streak like Mariusz had.
In a full Comp I think you would beat Eddie. Really enjoying this series. Look forward to seeing who you compare with next… & to see yourself in your prime.
I'd say eddie statically is one of the strongest ever, but hooper is better all around
this
Eddie is a legend!
if we are speaking Statically Shaw has to be in the argument, he is a monster at almost every event. The Shaw classic this year showed that and it was his retirement year
@smuir6104 completely agree I was at the shaw classic this year and what brian was able to do was incredible. For my money he's the strongest man to ever walk the earth.
@@smuir6104 shaw was not that great at overhead events. very good, but not at a world record level like eddie was
Eddie = strongest static strength
Hooper = speed
And Hooper is the more well rounded strongman. He’s one of the fastest strongmen ever while having a 475kg deadlift and 215kg log press lol
@@sethticer5108 you mudt be delusional thinking hooper has a better log. Mind you, the weights keep goimg up every year.
@@user-bt4mk1uj2f Oh no, at the moment I think prime Eddie wins a log press against Hooper. I’m just saying it’s funny to be called the fast guy when you also have a 475kg deadlift and world class pressing
hooper is like one of the fastest and most conditioned strongmen ever with like 90% of eddie hall strength. for me, thats enough to make him the best to ever do it. if he stays injury free, he will beat mariusz and zydrunas records at wsm wins/arnold wins
I think in the context of a full meet you could probably edge Eddie out due to your conditioning. However for single-rep maximal strength events I'm going to give that to prime Eddie, at least based on where you are now. That said, you're killing it with your continuously improving technique and strength gains and I'm excited to see what your true peak looks like over the next few years.
Should have taken the biggest comp log number like you did for deadlifts. And compare Axle press numbers too
Hi, great episode, I think with these events you should be able to win most of these face offs to be fair.
Oh, you could do like a little point system in top right and top left, like face of one person and points and face of the other and points, would be fun and of course you could pick some ridiculous pictures too :D
think the 213 in competition (which looked easy) gives him the win on log. not fair to say its even because of what you do in training. great video tho! keep em coming
ahhhh the competitiveness, i imagine you wanna redo these videos in your future prime. youre a force to be reckoned with good sir, i love your style, lets go buddy :) 2x WSM? Love from Australia
Eddies strict OHP was crazy... If he could have added some leg drive, no doubt he would own several more OHP records. I would love to have seen Prime Hall vs. Hooper in a log press.
Love the series. Big Z NEXT!! 👀
IMO the 1500 lb+ Bale Tote Yokes were much better tests of strength than 500 kg yoke.
I’d love to give it a crack!
out of 20 common strongman events and based of my memory of how both have done:
Eddie takes: Stones, deadlift max, max log, max axle, deadlift for reps, squat, viking press
Mitch takes: Log for reps, loading, frame carry, farmers carry, circus dumbell, Yoke, shield carry, fingals, arm over arm
Toss up: Truck pull(depends on weight), kettlebell/keg toss, and tire flip(just not sure what mitch can do but im leaning towards him)
The organizers know the strengths and weaknesses of all the strongmen, and it is they who deicide who will win these competitions by picking the events for who enters.
Would be fun if you could do follow up to these comparisons with comments from Eddie, Thor and anyone else you include in the future.
Great series. Assuming Z is next?
Mr. Hooper. You are a very fair and honest man. You left out squat and axel. Eddie strict pressed an axel world record that held for years. He just missed the log world record. His squat was on par with his deadlift. You would get him on stones because his chest is too big to get his arms easily around the big stones. Don’t forget his bench press. You would have him on all moving events. He would have you on all pure strength events. If the competition was like the Shaw, he would win. If it is like most World’s, you would win. Best wishes for continued success in your career and for joy and success as a father.
The Moose vs The Beast!! Would love to see that battle!!
Rookie Mitchell vs Rookie novikov next 👍
short answer: if it was a static strength focused competition, like 2017, eddie would eat you for breakfast. but if it was like the more recent wsm's, with more dynamic/athletic events, you would beat eddie even easier than he would beat you at static strength events.
I really think event combos play a big part in who wins as well as body health. I've seen to many times where Person A beats Person B multiple times, but Person C beats Person A, but loses to Person B. It's what gains this sports popularity in recent years. All the factors that come into play makes it hard to predict a winner.
I think if you were competing against prime Eddie he would have changed strategy to accomodate a little bit. That being said I've never seen as much heart as Eddie had when competing and absolute disregard for his own life. The clash between the two of you would be something to behold! I think you're going to surpass many more records Mitchell, love your content. Best from Spain.
Cool series!
I'd like to see you vs Eddie on the log... I think it's be incredibly close, much closer than the dumbbell which you would win.
Impossible to factor in of course, but a video talking about the "power creep" in strongman might be interesting? Ie just how far have the numbers moved up (if at all) in the last 8-10 years when prime Eddie, Thor and arguably Brian were operating!
10 years ago was 2013. Brian didn't reach his best until after that point, most notably 2015-2017.
@@Adam-cs3ld he literally won wsm in 2011+2013 (and 15+16), can't win 2 WSMs without being at your best. Brian's peak just lasted longer than most competitors.
Brian peaked from 2015-2017, hafthor peaked from 2018-2020, Eddie peaked 2016-17, big Z peaked from 2004-2014 like the goat he is
Some strongmen have talked about «breakthroughs» when it comes to PEDs. Not only the substances they take and how to balance it all, but also the amount. Going back a couple of years most of the guys were on insane doses of steroids and other stuff. Now they take about 20% of that amount but keep the same strength. So their bodies can handle more.
It’s always silly to compare between different times/eras. Across every sport there’s been steady improvement over many, many decades. Probably even more so in sports where PEDs are actively being used. People have been saying that Usain Bolt’s world records will stand for decades, but there’s already 20-22 year olds extremely close to taking the records, long before their prime. Nutrition is a big factor.
Perhaps the most interesting factor is the mental factor. After Eddie broke the 500 kg barrier and showed the world it’s possible, everyone’s DL went up quite a lot. Funny how that works.
@@crazycjk I know he did but a peak is your absolute best in terms of numbers. You could be the strongest version of yourself and not win major shows. That was absolutely 2015-2017 for Brian. Even Big Z himself said in his interview with Loz he thought his strongest year was 2015 and he didn't win the ASC or WSM that year.
Squat,Viking press, truck/plane pull, Axle press. Sandbag over bar
Good comparison.
Mabye go with Mateusz Kieliszkowski he's similar to you, like this to help this comment to be seen by Mitch.
I want to see a comparison between you and the legend Brian shaw
One of the best squad lift 15 reps 2017 wsm only the beast eddie did no one won't do it
So glad you did this one lets see prime Brian or prime Z or both
The thing with the log is if you look at Eddie's best lifts overhead including the world records, he almost never struggled (think Bibby barely beating his axle press record with a massive fight while Eddie easily strict pressed his). 2016-17 Eddie would take almost anyone in any max overhead event. My thoughts are if there is a squat, a deadlift, an OHP variant, Eddie wins those events, but I do agree that over the course of the average competition, Hooper beats Eddie 8 times out of 10.
Biby strict pressed the axle record too, it's the clean that's the problem in general and especially for Biby
@@alexfrye6 I like Biby but he was leaned so far back it was basically a bench press and he never got stable. He was taking steps the whole time from the press to the drop.
@@Lanephotography222 You can lean as far as you want, if you don't use leg drive then it's a strict press.
I've heard this a lot about Biby's axle press and it's just not true. Watch the video, he takes one step back to control it then pauses for a second while he gets the down signal. He then takes one more step while dropping it but this is irrelevant as he has already got the lift.
The video does not show the ref so I can see how it could be misleading, but the down signal is at that point. I was actually at that competition. I sat in the 3rd row and it was a good lift.
I laughed so hard when you showed Eddie carrying the bikes. At the end he poops himself! Lol
How did you choose the events? Would be interesting to see how you (now) would have done in the 2017 competition. Not saying the events are unfair, I do believe they make up a good competition, but they weren't the events with which Eddie won.
The events he chose were based on an average strongman comp, log and dumbbell are the most common overhead every comp has deadlift and stones and then 3 moving events
The events in 2017 were tailored for Eddie, despite that I think Mitch would have been around 4th place but it’s possible that with Mitch in the lineup there would have been enough of a shift in points that hafthor would have won
@@dantethunderstone2118 Maybe, or maybe Brian wins or maybe Eddie pulls further ahead. It would be interesting to see
@@oceanbanana4341obviously it depends on which of the 10 doesn’t make finals but I my analysis after removing Nick best or big Z was Thor would have won narrowly, Brian and Eddie 2/3 and martins and Mitch 4/5
Would love to see Brian next!
I think this shows how good Hooper is at bringing it at the shows - someone like Eddie or some current strongmen are statically stronger, i.e. Eddie on log, but were/are a bit inconsistent at hitting it in comp. Hooper seems to always get to within a very high %, or exceed his training max's
Here is a 7 event comp
1. Yoke
2. Heavy Deadlift for reps
3. Viking press
4. Heavy squat for reps
5. Loading race
6. Your choice
7. WSM 2017 stones
I think this was a great way to stir up Eddie fans. I love the draw changed to a win for Moose. Lol. Might as well do B Shaw next.
do your rookie year versus Mike Jenkins best results.... this would be a close matchup
we need to see you do one against prime brian shas.
Shots fired
'I would say that if you pulled the numbers for ALL of the events that you have BOTH done, and not just seven events, that you would get a better picture of 'All-Aroundness'. I know that in a comp you only do a specific number, and the events themselves sometimes favor one person over another, but if you just look across the board at all events that you have a commonality with Eddie, then you will have a much clearer picture of how you two compare. I loved watching Eddie chase Brian, Big Z, and Thor, and I really enjoy the way you approach the sport, so I would love to see those numbers.
I think for a fair comparison with Eddie you'd need to include at least 1 endurance event. Front hold or wheel of pain. Eddie's gift was pushing g his body to the absolute limit. If you got someone with Thor's Genetics, Eddie's Grit and Novikov's technique the would be no stopping them. Hopefully see you in Glasgow. Should be a great show.
The absolutely STUNNING thing is Mitch is doing all this stuff at 100lbs less body weight than Eddie Hall! What would happen if Mitch weighed closer to 400lbs? How much more strength would he gain? How much athleticism would he lose?
He was also really good at axle press/Viking. Like Loz says, right set of events makes a huge difference in every comp
The "right" set of events as in "Let Colin change the events last minute to favour Freddie Small".
@@TheVanillatech Acting like it wasn't one of the heaviest wsm to date
@@TheVanillatechBut then Hafthor wouldn't have won 2018 with his events by changing to a medley 🥴😆
@@santiagosteven6105 The medley was REMOVED, and replaced with a 4th STATIC - in order to favour Eddie Hall and hinder Thor. Yet - THOR still came within 0.5 points of the win, even WITH the cheating from Hall / Bryce.
Go figure.
Had the events been ran as normal, without medling and cheating, Thor would have been what? 5-6 points clear in the lead?
Don't talk crazy to me, thanks.
try and do the 2017 europes and the 2017 worlds events on him and his results, where he peaked. at the 2018 britains he had a bad hip injury to deal with. you probably beat him at most shows tho, byt in the end of the day, he was pretty good in many events aswell as the best in some, and being more or less injuryfree eddie would be relatvly hard to beat at his peak. congrats on the wins and great carrier so far Mitch
I would love to see you verses big Loz
Eddie would've put up better comp numbers for log if it weren't for the fact that he strict pressed most overhead events. Hell, he almost strict pressed a 220 kg in 2015, but passed out.
Eddie used the back arch technique in his presses. I don't think you can use your legs that much then. Imagine that you lean your back as far as possible and then push with your legs. It's probably not a good idea
Hooper vs prime big z would be fun to witness
I'm sure you would annihalate prime Eddie hall in a competition. There is a reason why you won more international competition in your rookie year than Eddie in his entire career😅
Agree with all apart from the log
And should be a squat in there too
Idk it would be fun to see how it would actually play out. I think in reality it would be a close competition because generally in competitions you only do enough to win.
Thank you
You’re welcome? 🤔
@@mitchellhooperstrongman 😂 I meant “thank you for the content” not necessarily for beating Eddie ✌️
you got the dub. Eddie was a good strongman but became a legend for two things, the deadlift and the axle clean and press. (and hitting brian w a huge medicine ball). Power to him for battling it out when Z, Brian and Thor were around, those guys were animals. Would love to see a Big Z comparison next
the log press and max-dumbbell would more likely be a draw, plus eddie had some kinda of huge axle press back in the day, regardless this series has been cool.... have you considered running some data against Žydrūnas Savickas? (i think 2014 was his best year but i could be off)
Will there be a comparison against Brian? Only asking because you have competed against him more than once so technically the comparison is already there. Also one with Zydrunas would be cool
Any static lift Eddie would trump… tbh seemed like the whole shaw classic this year would have been a playground for Eddie
It will be good to look back in a few years and say Mitch in his prime👑🦀🍁
I disagree on the log and the dumbbell. The cyr bell is considerably harder than monster dumbbell. And I am calling no lift on your 140kg db. On the log, Eddie does tend to get overconfident and tries to strict press everything, but when he does use leg drive, he’s in WR territory.
Should include truck pull in these comparison videos
would love to see comparison of you and Big Z
Eddie kept saying at the Shaw Classic that he would have absolutely dominated with those events...
Now I love Eddie, but in all fairness he never did shit at the Arnold's, and I think the Shaw would have been about the same.
I can feel a Big Baby Boxing Match coming on 🤔
Gotta do one on the man himself brian shaw 💪
Pretty fair. On average over multiple hypothetical comps I say Thor beats Moose beats Eddie.
But who knows over time we might see you changing that - hope you stay healthy and hungry
DEFINITELY should do Big Z and Brian Shaw next!
You also get points for being really professional. Some people could learn from that :)
The records don’t show Eddie at his prime, he was in peak condition for a very short time before he retired.
He was inches away from a 230 log with a broken ankle. Overhead power close to Biby with the clean and flexibility to go with it
The numbers are the numbers, but you need someone to really push you to perform your best.
Do it with Brain Shaw Please 🙏
I think in 15 years there will be a rookie doing a similar video vs Mitch Hooper and looking stronger. If Eddie compared himself to the guys 10 years before his prime he'd thrash them too.
Mitch huge fan! But ain't no way you're beating prime Eddie in Log. The speed of his 213kg log while he had a injury was crazy fast. Also he didn't want to jump to 230kg on the log after the 213kg but Bibby insisted and they missed the 230kg but I think Eddie could've easily done at least 222kg. Don't think we've seen his full potential on dumbell as well. I think any competition with a form of overhead press, squat & DL it would be tough to beat prime Eddie. You definitely got him on moving events tho.
I'd agree that you may be more well rounded, but those static events Eddie is taking.
You might get to run with another static freak if Halfthor manages to get back to peak form.