kayak paddle greenland vs regular

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  • @ikkeennietjij
    @ikkeennietjij 6 років тому +23

    By the way; I have used greenland style paddles some 25 years ago, but I have changed back to euro tyle paddles. I paddle (long) distances and never had physical problems while paddling. Turning 50 this year and hope to go on as long paddling for as long as possible, if not for ever. Still whishing you and every paddler all the best, but most of all your own wisdom...

  • @ikkeennietjij
    @ikkeennietjij 6 років тому +18

    That's a nice story, but when I really need a low brace, I need to do it in a split second. If I want to roll fast I do not want to spend time moving my paddle through my hands. I don't think it is right to say euro paddles are wrong. They are just different and it is just a matter of preference. One can also think about using a shorter euro blade paddle instead of an gp. Some effects are in fact the same. And let's not forget there were many different sorts of greenland paddles, some more euro style shaped. In my opinion there is not a euro paddle industry influencing beginners in paddling. I think paddlers (instructors) are reasonably individual, bit stubborn, but most of the time not influencable by manufacturers, at least not here in the Netherlands. I think they're sometimes more susceptible to hypes, which I think this is. Given time, this will all fade away and everyone will just stick with what they really think is best for them and this will be both euro style and greenland paddles...

    • @nedludd8633
      @nedludd8633 4 роки тому +2

      His videos sound like sales pitches to me

    • @petergerhardsen20
      @petergerhardsen20 4 роки тому +1

      @@nedludd8633 Exactly, and that's all they are really. I did enrol in his course. To get the first one, you have to give out your phone number and get on FaceBook and whitelist his affiliate marketing firm email address so that they can send you all their crap. Bordering on scam. The most hilarious is all these fake comments where suposedly legit people broadcast their email address to the whole planet, like if noboby knows about robot harvesting email addresses from pages like this one.

  • @davidryder3374
    @davidryder3374 5 років тому +9

    Okay, I just have to address this, since you see it so often with regard to greenland paddles....airplane wings generate lift because they're an airfoil. Air travels faster over the top of an airfoil, creating a negative pressure which then generates ACTUAL lift. Greenland paddle blades are NOT an airfoil. They "generate lift" the same way any blade does when traveling through a medium, by changing the angle of attack. And Euro paddles do the exact same thing if you choose to use them that way. There's nothing magical about the way a Greenland paddle does this. You can hold your hand out a car window and do the exact same thing. There are several advantages to the greenland paddle, but the exclusive ability to generate lift is not one of them.

    • @PauloOuellet
      @PauloOuellet 5 років тому

      I would just add that with the Euro blade there is too much resistance for it to be efficient. You lose more in friction than you can gain from the lift I think.

  • @robertoquinn7047
    @robertoquinn7047 3 роки тому +5

    After researching Greenland Inuit ocean kayaks, I’ve built seven, plus several paddles. Your “unlock hip” advice is good but perhaps a better word is “flexible” in being able to slide forward and backward, and/or roll (inside the kayak) clockwise and counterclockwise. That added to a properly designed Greenland paddle allows the paddler to do several recoveries not possible with the European blade. Plus, a very important paddle design element generally overlooked is the handle shape which should be “oval aligned with the blades” which allows the paddler to instantly “feel” which angle the blades are. I had to learn this and more playing in Lake Michigan’s sometimes 6-8 ft. waves. Enjoy and stay safe.

  • @DonUschi92
    @DonUschi92 Рік тому +2

    I think it's not so easy. You can also Unlock your hips with a Euro Paddle which I recommend anyway. You should not set a focus on paddle with your arms but core and shoulder. But I agree that you can just link strokes better that involve leaving the paddle in water cause you can drag it so nicely through it without producing thrust but lift or just no relevant force but reposition. I love it for that. Although I prefer the Aleut version. Not so veratile but with other advantages. At 230cm is not at all nice to the shoulders. That might count for short 220cm greenland paddles ^^. But also for the pure stroke and forward power, euro and race paddles do feel more efficient. I can do 10km/h with all three styles but with a racing paddle it uses a lot less input to reach and keep that pace. I would switch back and forth for purpose. Race for shorter trainings on home course with high speed in easy conditions. Euro for 7-8ish km/h and mid conditions and greenland/aleut for all the rest, for play, long touring with low to mid speeds and for feeling safe in all conditions.

  • @seafreedom334
    @seafreedom334 Рік тому +1

    I was doing OK with this until we got to the "conspiracy theory" bit about kayak shops and major institutions depreciating the Greenland blade and only teaching euro blade. Speaking as a certified coach from Scotland, working with British Canoeing and the Scottish canoe association I can assure you that this is far from the case here. Many coaches use and promote the Greenland blade and all of the good outfitters sell them. Speaking for myself, I have been using both for decades. I like both. It depends what performance criteria are important. I like the low effort of Greenland blade touring and I especially like Greenland blade rolling. I vastly prefer euro blades for catching waves and paddling tide races because I can get much better acceleration with the euros especially when paddling into a strong wind. Despite my diminutive size and 70+ years, no one with a Greenland paddle has ever been able to overtake me when I'm using my Werner euro blades.

  • @eviolite1930
    @eviolite1930 6 років тому +6

    just wow! I've just started my training to learn sea kayaking and this has given me a whole new understanding of it. Thank you!

    • @eviolite1930
      @eviolite1930 6 років тому +2

      Thank you for passing on your knowledge :)

  • @allonking1571
    @allonking1571 2 роки тому +2

    Here in the Caribbean we have been getting huge amounts of sarggaso seaweed these last few years my Greenland paddle made of purplehart wood really helps when it gets dense .

    • @sanderlingphotography
      @sanderlingphotography Рік тому +1

      I've been making mine out of cedar to keep the weight down. Seems like purpleheart would be awfully heavy! You like it, though?

  • @djieffe
    @djieffe 6 місяців тому +1

    so it's not the paddle, it's knowing how to paddle.
    a wider paddle will always give more power.
    Use more muscles, they will tire less quickly.

    • @PauloOuellet
      @PauloOuellet 6 місяців тому

      Not so at all I assure you. Power comes from the paddler.

    • @djieffe
      @djieffe 6 місяців тому

      @@PauloOuellet transmis a la planète par l'entremise de la pagaie, c'est une evidence.
      la transmission doit être adaptée au moteur et a l'environnement pour être efficace selon le but recherché.

  • @asinglegerry
    @asinglegerry 6 років тому +4

    Great video!
    Thanks a lot for sharing your wisdom.
    You made me curious about the greenland paddling style and I want to learn more.

    • @DancingWithTheSea
      @DancingWithTheSea  6 років тому +1

      Thanks and you are very welcome. If you have any questions feel free to email me.

  • @schmalzling
    @schmalzling 6 років тому +1

    love the video but instead of that overpowered missile i would think footage of an RC sailplane to be much more fitting, like this: ua-cam.com/video/iAsezgsRb74/v-deo.html
    and something most people don't realize about the GP: for a given cadence the tip of the GP is moving through the water at a much higher speed than a regular paddle. one of the reasons such a narrow blade works as well as it does.

  • @keithmoriyama5421
    @keithmoriyama5421 4 роки тому +2

    In every single sport there is a snobbery that favors the traditional.

    • @somogyilevente2677
      @somogyilevente2677 3 роки тому

      I guess you have not tried greenland paddle on long distances. I love mine.

  • @qaannat
    @qaannat 3 роки тому +2

    Paulo, your narration really hits home with what G-style is all about.

  • @yru435
    @yru435 27 днів тому

    I really enjoy your videos. I disagree about one thing you said about 'unlocking hips': contrary to your statement I find that the use of hips is identical in sea kayaks and ww kayaks.

  • @jimwortham8634
    @jimwortham8634 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks enjoy video so much pretty serious power myself I think about moving water don't quite understand Greenland paddle to each his own Ford Chevrolet Harley Honda

  • @DancingWithTheSea
    @DancingWithTheSea  5 років тому +11

    You can sign up for the free outfitting course at the link below:
    www.dancingwiththesea.com/funnel/yt-wear/sign-up/

    • @CheleWell
      @CheleWell 4 роки тому

      I have two sea kayaks, one plastic the other carbon/fiber, a euro paddle and Greenland . Wish to learn more about the Greenland. I was a whitewater paddler before, so I feel more comfortable with the euro style.

    • @jimmoore5001
      @jimmoore5001 Рік тому

      Link does not work.

    • @DancingWithTheSea
      @DancingWithTheSea  Рік тому +1

      @@jimmoore5001 Thanks for pointing that out, I changed it.

  • @oleinfidel
    @oleinfidel 2 роки тому +3

    thinking of this, it reminds me of my Canadian Army time >> '40 lb rucksack forced marches with time limits'; the secret was not to just walk with one's feet...the secret was to start one's forward step, with your hips driving forward in concert with your thighs. This draws your leg & foot forward with minimal effort....plant it on the ground with your alternate hip already in motion. In truth, the initial motion starts with your core, into your hips and thighs.
    So, I'm visualizing the very same thing here; your paddle stroke, has to be a full body concert, in motion.
    Carving my 1st Greenland paddle this winter in preparation for the spring!

    • @vidiot9000
      @vidiot9000 Рік тому

      ‘It’s all in the wrist’

  • @DominikRupp-p6x
    @DominikRupp-p6x 2 місяці тому

    Thank you very much for your Videos. It's very inspiring.

  • @jpwaterman5104
    @jpwaterman5104 4 роки тому +1

    Yup. Love these videos....I've paddled a lot since 1980. Still paddling, and I find that Paulo's videos resonate w/ me. Giving me new kernals of insight and presenting familiar concepts in new ways!

  • @jpwaterman5104
    @jpwaterman5104 5 років тому +1

    Signed up via the link. I been paddling whitewater for nearly 40 years, over 12 on the saltwater now. I'm a soloist and got locked out of the Face Beast, so its hard to meet sea kayakers. We all have more stuff to learn and I need to get some schooling with the greenland style. Apparently the record time around Vancouver was with a greenland paddle. Anyway I'd paddle across the Salish Sea for lessons...just saying.

  • @Black-March
    @Black-March Місяць тому

    Lets drop the romanticism... The greenland paddle was developed based on the availability of wood not based on performance. They're very interesting, and still a good design today, but they were born from necessity and a lack of woodworking skills/large materials not because they had fancy ideas.

  • @alainouellette2985
    @alainouellette2985 6 років тому +2

    I really enjoy your presentations, Paulo. Continue, SVP! Alain Ouellette

  • @Erwan35520
    @Erwan35520 5 років тому +1

    I’m about to try greenland paddling. This video is great. Thank’s😎

    • @DancingWithTheSea
      @DancingWithTheSea  5 років тому +1

      Please share your experience with it, I would love to hear how it goes.

  • @christophersmith7714
    @christophersmith7714 6 років тому +1

    Great video Paulo. I love my greenland paddle (Gearlab Akiak) and will never go back to a euro paddle!

  • @williamtomashowski1486
    @williamtomashowski1486 2 роки тому

    Thank You 🙏, very informative. I’ve watched many kayak videos, I’ll be watching Yours more often. I have seen on other videos, that Greenland paddles are very hard to find and purchase. T or F? Tanks again .Keep it on the rails “A”

  • @rrampage36
    @rrampage36 6 років тому +1

    Great video....What model Greenland paddle is that one with the green blades....? How do I buy one ? Thanks.

    • @DancingWithTheSea
      @DancingWithTheSea  6 років тому

      It's a Gearlab paddle. www.gearlabpaddles.com/
      Great paddle!

  • @Phrancis5
    @Phrancis5 5 років тому

    I feel like you're preaching "the Force" from Star Wars and the Greenland paddle is like a light sabre. LOL I carved a few GPs and have been using them for 10 yrs, but I still need to improve on using them.

  • @samuelmachefert6167
    @samuelmachefert6167 Рік тому

    That is the way of sea kayaking

  • @vidiot9000
    @vidiot9000 Рік тому

    Poetry

  • @AdrianSalomo
    @AdrianSalomo 2 роки тому

    Can someone please telle me whether it's practical using the Greenland paddle for packrafting? Thanks.

  • @12oldman
    @12oldman 3 роки тому

    Question, will these techniques work also with a Klemperer or a long haul kayak? Both of them are take down inflatable kayaks. Truly interested.

  • @MrSpankee02
    @MrSpankee02 2 роки тому

    Is this paddle useful for calm waters? That’s my thing.

  • @patsywalker9378
    @patsywalker9378 2 роки тому

    What is the recommended paddle length for someone 6' and 190 lbs.?

  • @PauloOuellet
    @PauloOuellet 5 років тому

    Here is the link to sign up for the free outfitting course:
    www.comfortpaddling.net/outfit-kayak-mini-course/

  • @analogalbacore7166
    @analogalbacore7166 3 роки тому

    Small motor is the best save energy. You flip allot why not stay up and dry.

  • @adventurecoalition3690
    @adventurecoalition3690 2 роки тому

    This was awesome 👍so informational👍 thx for sharing

  • @christianmcdonald9921
    @christianmcdonald9921 2 роки тому

    Great videos...would you recommend a wooden or carbon fibre Greenland Paddle to start?

  • @communicationiskey-
    @communicationiskey- Рік тому

    New sub! Great video and channel.
    What is the brand of your yellow Greenland paddle ?

  • @rickdownunder8904
    @rickdownunder8904 6 років тому +1

    Great voice and great video Thanks

  • @thomashannibal
    @thomashannibal 10 місяців тому

    Great and inspiring video. Thank you.

  • @alainouellette2985
    @alainouellette2985 6 років тому

    Paulo, I am interested in your kayak skirt. Please send me a link that describes it and how I can provide you measurements that you need. Thanks.

  • @aaronsanchezz
    @aaronsanchezz 6 років тому +1

    What about a greenland paddle that has a larger face for more powwaaa?

    • @cjgoulet
      @cjgoulet 6 років тому +1

      You would have problems holding on to it when moving your hands for such actions as skulling. One that measures nicely in the "C" of your index and thumb is really nice for skulling and bracing. I find with a minor change in stroke from a "Euro" paddle I can move even faster with the greenland. My one problem is just being a bit off on the angle of the narrower blade I can find myself getting wet in a hurry if I miss a brace!

    • @cjgoulet
      @cjgoulet 6 років тому +1

      Sculling, brain fart there!

  • @freeholdtacticalmed
    @freeholdtacticalmed 2 роки тому

    What paddle are you using?

  • @sgvern1
    @sgvern1 3 роки тому +1

    I totally agree about unlocking your hips and using the flexibility of your core. Fortunately, I learned that idea early on when I started kayaking. Us Ming your hips and core to paddle takes the strain off your arms and decreases soreness and discomfort. Your core is, or will become much stronger than your arms and more suited to extended use time than your arms.
    As a side benefit, I had lower back stiffness and discomfort from a twisting near fall for over a year. Within in a two or three months of raking up kayaking and using my hips and core, the pains and discomfort started to decrease and continued to decrease till they were all gone. The motion used loosened my hips and lower back and allowed it to heal. Much better than taking ibuprofen.

  • @AaronBrand
    @AaronBrand 6 років тому

    Where is the current that you're surfing in at about 5:00? I'm in Bellingham, WA and always interested in finding new play spots.

    • @DancingWithTheSea
      @DancingWithTheSea  6 років тому +1

      www.google.ca/maps/@48.437624,-123.256071,53m/data=!3m1!1e3
      It's a small channel on Chatham island

  • @marcmongango
    @marcmongango 3 роки тому

    te mojas las manos todo el tiempo !!

  • @sme4969
    @sme4969 6 років тому +2

    how can you not like this video ? there are some right miserable asses :(
    i would like to know can the greenland paddle be used in an inflatable kayak/canoe ?

    • @DancingWithTheSea
      @DancingWithTheSea  6 років тому +1

      I think it comes down to how wide your boat is, and how high you are sitting. If you can't comfortably touch the water with your hand as you paddle you may need more blade at the end of the paddle. Because the blade of the Greenland paddle goes from your hand to the end of the paddle you need to be able to put it all in the water for it to work well.

  • @1ijak
    @1ijak 4 роки тому +1

    I am completely new to kayaking. Would it be beneficial at all to use a Greenland paddle for a sit on top fishing kayak about 35" wide?

  • @nedludd8633
    @nedludd8633 4 роки тому

    Boy ! he really spins these things out .

  • @sergeykopylov652
    @sergeykopylov652 5 років тому

    looks like he is swimming. poseur! :))

  • @millerslanding2310
    @millerslanding2310 6 років тому +1

    :)

  • @jornclaeys5863
    @jornclaeys5863 3 роки тому

    Very nice video!

  • @jackhardwick7257
    @jackhardwick7257 5 років тому

    Hot asmr

  • @bradlepaddle9512
    @bradlepaddle9512 6 років тому +1

    Something about your voice I kind of want to hear you sing Love Songs no seriously good video I like the self-leveling camera mount made this video awesome

    • @DancingWithTheSea
      @DancingWithTheSea  6 років тому

      Thanks, I'm glad you noticed the new camera set up. I think the addition of the gimbal is a huge improvement also.

  • @maikneubauer761
    @maikneubauer761 6 років тому +1

    This is a great video - perfectly summarised the Greenland feeling. Thx

  • @peetsnort
    @peetsnort 3 місяці тому

    I think this wing thing probably was the vikings secret with their rudder that essentially was like the Greenland paddle

  • @OregonHerbalist
    @OregonHerbalist 6 років тому +1

    Great work 🙂 instructors and guide certifications are for Shills🤮 Sick of their Safety Freak Mentality 🤬 I used to raft parts of the Dechutes river (in Oregon) tied into a one man raft with no life jacket, always would see some angry dude on the side of the river yelling at me for not having a LifeJacket! 🙂