I'm a big fan of these inexpensive Thermaltake cases. Built a PC for a friend's teen in the Versa H18 a couple weeks ago. Also - I've been using this B450 Aorus M for a year or so now and it's been really solid for me. Great build Paul!
@@paulshardware a suggestion for the "upgrade path" ... the most logical path for me would be to 1st upgrade the GPU to something like a RX 5500 XT or GTX 1650 Super and then later upgrade the CPU to something like the Ryzen 5 3600.
@Dead Account I just upgraded from a 2600 to 3600 and gave my 2600 to my other-half. I'm hoping within a year or so to upgrade again to something like a 3900X or perhaps similar Zen 3 part.
I just built one myself I already had the case and psu for my retro computer but I put the new parts in the new case with the 3200g and 16gb ram and 250 gig ssd for under 300
@@gamerboy13stupid89 on my retro computer i was playing battlefield 1942 and battlefield 2 and vietnam redux. On my new pc i'm playing battlefield 3 and 4
@@kramlol6514 bro, this video one is better, if i want i can put a fucking 16/32 cores processor in this motherboard, and is just put a gpu like 2080ti later. With this optiplex, you only can play for now, but after you will need to change the parts again
sic22l yeah but the benchmarks won’t be anything impressive with a 4 core igpu processor I understand this is a budget video but if you’re lookin to get into gaming I would not rely on igpu if it’s just a work station or something to browse web on then what ur saying would be enough.
@AvOiD Haze We're talking about an extremely budget $350 rig with Athlon 3000G and no dGPU. Ryzen 1600 would mean that you have to spend at least $100 (used) or $150 for a dedicated GPU and raise the total by almost 40% to $485. It's a different category.
I just built a similar system for general office use, some heavy spreadsheet work, & minimal old games (nothing too demanding). Very happy with its performance. Ryzen 3400G CPU, 2x 8gig 3200MHz RAM, 512gig Adata SX8200 Pro m.2 NVMe for boot drive, basic MSI B450 motherboard, Thermaltake Versa H15 case. Very pleased with it.
@@adallen1241 no smoke, Robin. Just for the test I put the rig next to an aircon vent. Idle temp was around 4 degrees Celsius (39F). Cooling makes a significant benefit to performance. Cooled so much it was stable overclocked to 4.4GHz. Although this test was just for fun. I'll run at stock for everyday use.
Paul: Long time watcher, first time builder. I'll be helping my son put this together. We added a wi-fi card and bumped the processor up a little and got it for about $400 "delivered". So appreciate your show and helping me get my son interested in a build!
@@zangetsu_the_best_zanpakuto AMD Ryzen 3 2200G. $80 on amazon right now. When I looked at the perf differences on www.cpubenchmark.net/, I thought the extra $30 was well worth it.
Kinda. Those things are pretty fucking important and you wouldn't want to cheap out on any of them if you think about it. But usually people go with a good PSU and trash everything else and put the big bank money on CPU/GPU.
I wouldn't argue that standpoint, good solid storage and power is very important and annoying to upgrade imo. Would definitely second also spending a little more on a mobo also as that's a very important, generally long standing part of a build.
If I'm being honest, I prefer to budget in favor of everything but the cpu, gpu, and cpu cooler. Not for everything else to be overkill, but it would make upgrading super easy; just slot in a new cpu or gpu and watch as the frames increase! I'd put most of the budget into the psu, then mobo, then storage, then ram. After that the case, and everything else necessary for the pc _except_ the cpu and gpu (those are what I prefer to be the most entry level of the build). This allows for a quick and easy upgrade, like I mentioned before. Any thoughts on this build idea? (This probably only goes for a system below $1000ish, after that a more balanced build is much more effective than the above strategy)
Expensive psus are a myth. With power usage going down with every generation and SLI being essentially dead u don't need those 750+ watts monstrosities. Go on pcpartpicker, filter for full modular, get the cheapest stuff at the moment, you will be fine. Especially if it's seasonic. No need to keep sponsoring Corsair.
@@mrxanthios7045 The great value RX 580 uses quite a lot of power. The NVIDIA RTX line uses more power than the previous GTX models. Having said that, few people need 750+ W power supplies. But spending a bit more money on a good quality PSU is still a good idea. High-quality components, fully modular, and a silent fan are worth the extra money, at least for me.
A used 2200G would be around the same price as the Athlon 3000 but much better performance. Might even be able to get a 2400G. Athon series are a joke only meant for office computers.
If you look into entry level laptops and ultrabooks that's pretty much all you're gonna get. I guess 2019 isn't as advanced as you thought. At least these newer chips handle 2 threads per core.
This looks like a pretty good setup for your first desktop pc if you are getting into computers. You can get up and running on the cheap, but also have a lot of upgradability. Also a nice touch with the details in throwing it all together. I feel these types of videos are often overlooked, so it is nice to see they keep popping up.
I just wanted to say thank you for this video and your straight forward way of explaining things. I was debating on building my own but I'm not tech savvy enough to do it, least I thought I was. This video pushed me to make the purchase of these parts featured. My friend has a XFX GTX 570 he gave me and it is a beautiful thing! Anyways thank you so much!
My son and I just completed this build, well not exactly this build. We couldn’t find a 3000G where we are in Canada, so we went with the 3200G. It turned out awesome. Thank you for these great build videos.
Thank you so much for this! I recently built an $800 build and have been loving the PC gaming life! So much so that some of my friends I left back on console want to come join me but don’t want to spend a whole lot and I think this is just what they need!
TIK I went with a ryzen 5 2600 and 16gb 3000mhz ram that even has rgb on them I usually like to go new only but sometimes ill make an exception if the used parts are cheap enough.
@@marcopasta6274 in Australia if you can find a R3 1200 used people are asking 80-100% of new 2200G prices, nearly all our used Ryzen are like this & we can't get them new any more, it is why AliExpress is cheaper including shipping here
I'm going to buy exactly everything in the build and will come back on this video for the step by step tutorial, I bought a pre built pc that was 2.5X the price of this pc and yet it has the qualities of a 2015 office pc. Wish me luck!
God no don’t buy the parts on this pc It’s absolutely a shitty ass build I can build a pc that will run circles around this build for less to the same amount of money
Before you build this, I want to suggest a better combo but you may have to go for used parts. This setup: Ryzen 3 1200 ($60) Gigabye AORUS M ($90) EVGA 500W Bronze ($50) [some random case] ($40) 8gb ram, ddr4 3000 [whichever brand is cheap and on the qvl] ($30-40) Radeon RX 550, 560, 290, etc. ($60-$100) Kingston A400 or WD blue 1TB: ($30-40) This adds to about 380-440 dollars, but it is miles better than the PC in this video. As I mentioned before, if you go for used, you will definitely be able to get this down to $350. Hell, if you have a micro center you can even get it to $350.
Just used this case for my first pc build and i love it! Ryzen 5 2600 with a RX 570 4gb GPU. Unfortunately i'm still waiting on my keyboard and monitor (international shipping) BUT i'm very confident that it will work as intended! Couldn't have done it without your videos. I learned everything from you! Thank you so much
Loved the video Paul. This is one reason I have been recommending AMD to my friends that have to start out with a low end system but will upgrade slowly. I agree I would like to see the performance analysis of the base system and the with an upgrade path similar to what a person would upgrade. I.E. graphics card then new cpu, and continue on up from there to the highest end AMD system that can be built at this time. Thanks again and keep up the awesome work. Happy holidays!!!
I first built my budget gaming pc in early 2019 and it had an RX 570 8GB R5 3600X with 2 x 8 GB 3200ghz, a few days ago I upgraded that pc to a RTX 2060 and R7 3700X. It's been such a nice upgrade, not having many framedrops in-game.
Great video, although in my opinion any gaming PC beginner or otherwise needs a dedicated GPU. RX 570's are dirt cheap and play most games, 1080p, High, 60+ FPS.
@@BobBob-qg4lo if not for the cpu being an apu and having integrated graphics you would HAVE to have a graphics card in it to even get a show display on screen , but having a apu instead of dedicated cpu / gpu combo doesn't stop you from going that route, can actually be nice somtimes to have a apu and a gpu, if you have a gpu die you can still use your pc because your cpu doubles as a low end gpu!
good games to test: Older games people like to replay (GTA 5, Doom, COD, WoW, etc) with medium settings or something. Brand new games. to show budget people what they are missing without a graphics card.
It's refreshing to see a very affordable build and I really like the cable management on that case. The semi-modular PSU probably helped with that too.
I saw this case on amazon and decided to look up some reviews and I really liked your build, might have to use this build since on a budget. Thank you. :)
Most B450 boards do need a BIOS update for Ryzen 3XXX. With that said, all MSI B450 boards that have MAX at the end have the updated BIOS already, no worries there.
Nice a new build. I cant wait to get my ryzen 5 2600 pc built next month. I already have everything just need to get my cpu lol Im using the rx 570 4gb red devil gpu which is fine for me since im new to pc gaming.
@@thomashillis1410 i have the i5 3570K (not overclocked) paired with the msi 8bg armor oc version and it plays AAA titles on high to ultra with no problem on single player. BUT These old 4c/4t cpu's have a little trouble when it comes to online gaming. not much, but this is where you start to notice some micro stutters with those 1% lows and it could ruin a game, I would assume that 2c/4t would cause the same kind of problems even if it is new.
I recently built 3 PCs in the Thermaltake H17 which is the same layout of the H18. Brilliant case for sure, good looking for the price and does what you need it to do. I'm also a huge fan of the way the drives mount to it.
256 isn't a lot though, I would go for 1tb hdd + 256gb ssd but that's about $90 and at that point you could get a 660p 1tb for the same price + it's faster
@@bananya6020 Here in Australia that doesn't work out , A Western Digital WD 1TB Blue $62 + WD 240GB M.2 $49 = $111AUD, a 1tb Sata SSD is $165 or 1TB M.2 is $175AUD, our pricing scale on Tech is totally different to a lot of other places 🤪, it drives me crazy as everyone uses $USD MSRP so really changes the $$$ value comparison, for instance some prices match $1USD-$1AUD 😁 where others can be up to $1USD=$2AUD 😒
Your budget build is surprisingly close to the one I have. I have an Aorus full size ATX B450 board, AMD 2200G with 16GB, M.2 slot populated with Intel 660P 1TB SSD, and 120GB SATA for game programs. I would like to see the different budget graphic card options, an addition of a WIFI PCI-e card, maybe a couple of RGB fans, and maybe adding a USB-c 3.2 card as well. BTW, for my niece I built using a micro-ATX MSI B450, AMD 2200G with 8GB, 120GB SSD (SATA) with a Cooler Master case. I have thought of migrating her OS onto a M.2 NVME SSD as well. Great build and I also appreciate your consistent thought processes in selecting each part.
@FreeZz this particular tester gets 150-180 fps due in part to his impressive 4.1GHz overclock. It's likely the average userbenchmark tester has trash ram.
I still use that case! Been with me since I started my pc journey with just a 1050ti and a 7400! Now rocking a 3070 and a 9900k with all the fans installed!
I made my first PC by loosely following this as a guide since I'm a college kid. I'm very happy with the results since it's better than anything I've had before but I want to look for potential upgrades. Are you still planning to follow this up?
This analogy explains why you should not skimp massively on any one (or more) part, but some parts especially! (like, don't get a super sketchy heart. That's a bad plan)
@@I_am_Allan Yeah you could instead say that CPU is the frontal lobe of the brain and the GPU is the visual system (it's spread over a couple of lobes, not a clean separation. Limits of the analogy lol) I guess
Paul, to mitigate the cable color problem... Mask and spray paint the cables with mat-Black spray paint. If you want to go crazy just spray paint parts of the PC with colors of choice to give it a cheap and easy BANG.
Thanks for this video Paul! It’s come at the perfect time, me and my nephew were talking about building a pc together over Christmas dinner. He’s only 7 and wants to use it for Fortnite and streaming and as he gets older he can use it for school work too. I have never built a PC before so I especially appreciate that you’ve considered upgradability. What spec would you recommend for this use case? You’ve earned a couple new subscribers, me and my nephew will be watching! :)
Can't believe you can build so much cheaper in US/Canada ._. This exact same build would cost me +/- €379 (=$420 USD) in The Netherlands, that's 20% more
as far as i know that's the same with everything you buy online. prices on us online shops are displayed without tax, because taxes are different from state to state and you pay the tax of the state you live in. In the eu when you buy online VAT is displayed, because you pay the tax of the country you buy from (which is about 20% everywhere)
@@yurimow Oh, really? I never knew this. That makes so much sense. So in reality the difference is minimum? VAT here is 21%, in USA it's 10% according to Google search?
@@Rick020 Yeah, it will still be more expensive, but not such an outrageously large amount after the adjustment (I feel similarly. Computer parts are also more expensive here in New Zealand)
I think personally you made a mistake not recommending more storage off the bat seeing as something like CoD is 125 gigs base as increasing. Games sizes are just becoming bigger and bigger.
Hi, thanks for your tips on building PC.s. I'm about to build a new PC. How do you transfer all your apps, docs, pictures, internet settings and profiles from your old PC to a new PC with a fresh Windows install? There's quite a few guys out there showing how to build systems, but I've not seen any of them make videos to show you how to migrate your stuff from old to new PC. This would be very useful, especially to new builders.
Awesome video Paul, Happy Holidays to you and your family! It's worth noting that Paul didn't build the cheapest possible 3000g system here, more one that is ready for upgrades down the line. If all you are after is a 3000g system you can do it for $100 - $150 less. A 400w - 500w PSU from a decent brand is all you need for the 3000g and it would support a GPU upgrade down the line. A case for $30 - $40 will also be enough to get you up and running but watch out for airflow at this price point, many cases are poorly designed. You can pick up a B450 board for about $60 - $80. As you can see, you can cut costs further but be sure the compromise is not going to ruin future upgradablity (like an A320 board would). Something like Paul's build here may cost quite a bit more but it will also upgrade all the way up to the high end of AM4 (16 cores) with a simple CPU and GPU upgrade with no need to upgrade PSU or motherboard. All too often budget builders cut the wrong corners and end up paying more down the line because a PSU wasn't up to spec or the motherboard overheats with a higher end CPU etc.
I have the same a Thermaltake case. It’s a beautiful case for my set up. I just went on Amazon to see if they had any left and there are only other buyer options and the cheapest one is around $85.
Why assume that all gamers want to play new games? Remember that new games cost a lot, too. The kind of people going for a budget PC would also go for discounted (older) games. Or e-sports games, which are fine on iGPUs.
20 dollar build next plz I'm on a tight budget
have you considered stealing ? lol
😂
thats to high..you mean 10?
@@moedalgarny ok well thats called arduino. to surf net only. its do able. the mega board is like 5$. they rest is cheap also. enjoy.
Find a computer someones giving away and add a Sata ssd to boot from?
“Looking forward to twenty twenty”...
Hindsight is twenty twenty.
If only you knew..............
🤦🏻♂️😂😂😂😂😂
Looking forward to 2030...🤔 😂 😂
It’s 2021
0:00 "We're looking forward to 2020". Mmm maybe...
I thought the same thing xD
@@firestrikebs Same XD
That aged well...
stay in 2019 2020 is trying to kill everyone
I was just about to say the same thing lol
"We're looking forward into 2020"
Oh, Paul.
Are you that dude who stole those talking chipmunks ?
hes the guy that stole woody in toy story 2
😂😂😂
He looks like the guy who stole Woody
And the chipmunks
XDDDDDDDDDD
i thought I was the only one
He has some toys in his background
I'm a big fan of these inexpensive Thermaltake cases. Built a PC for a friend's teen in the Versa H18 a couple weeks ago. Also - I've been using this B450 Aorus M for a year or so now and it's been really solid for me. Great build Paul!
Excellent case choice, best budget airflow case I can find these days.
Thanks Robert, and thanks for the hands-on feedback on the parts you've tried out! 🙏
@@paulshardware a suggestion for the "upgrade path" ... the most logical path for me would be to 1st upgrade the GPU to something like a RX 5500 XT or GTX 1650 Super and then later upgrade the CPU to something like the Ryzen 5 3600.
@Dead Account I just upgraded from a 2600 to 3600 and gave my 2600 to my other-half. I'm hoping within a year or so to upgrade again to something like a 3900X or perhaps similar Zen 3 part.
Paul you are one of the good ones!
I recently built my first PC. I used that exact case. Total came out to under 300 with 2200g 16gb ram and a 256 gb ssd. Works great.
I just built one myself I already had the case and psu for my retro computer but I put the new parts in the new case with the 3200g and 16gb ram and 250 gig ssd for under 300
What games could you play
@@gamerboy13stupid89 on my retro computer i was playing battlefield 1942 and battlefield 2 and vietnam redux. On my new pc i'm playing battlefield 3 and 4
@@gamerboy13stupid89 I could play Cities:Skylines at 1080p max. I mostly play CPU intensive games, but I recently added an RX 590.
@@bretthibbs6083 can you tell me the specs of your PC.
Thank you for the budget build. I can build this for a friend for Christmas he can start PC gaming with me!!
You're a good friend!
Are you kidding! I hope you are.
@@kramlol6514 bro, this video one is better, if i want i can put a fucking 16/32 cores processor in this motherboard, and is just put a gpu like 2080ti later. With this optiplex, you only can play for now, but after you will need to change the parts again
You're great
@@Created-by-Guilherme not true. at all.
I'd spend $30 more in Ryzen 2200G, 4 full cores and much stronger iGPU are worth it.
@pee is stored in the balls
And another $150 for GPU becuase 1600 doesn't have one built in.
@@sic22l the AF version retails at 75$-85$ and is 6 core 12 thread 3.4ghz and even has some OC potential
@AvOiD Haze
Nice. Still no iGPU.
sic22l yeah but the benchmarks won’t be anything impressive with a 4 core igpu processor I understand this is a budget video but if you’re lookin to get into gaming I would not rely on igpu if it’s just a work station or something to browse web on then what ur saying would be enough.
@AvOiD Haze
We're talking about an extremely budget $350 rig with Athlon 3000G and no dGPU. Ryzen 1600 would mean that you have to spend at least $100 (used) or $150 for a dedicated GPU and raise the total by almost 40% to $485. It's a different category.
I just built a similar system for general office use, some heavy spreadsheet work, & minimal old games (nothing too demanding). Very happy with its performance. Ryzen 3400G CPU, 2x 8gig 3200MHz RAM, 512gig Adata SX8200 Pro m.2 NVMe for boot drive, basic MSI B450 motherboard, Thermaltake Versa H15 case. Very pleased with it.
Best benchmark performance run (not stock speed). www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/23062386
4.4GHz holy smoke Batman.
@@adallen1241 no smoke, Robin. Just for the test I put the rig next to an aircon vent. Idle temp was around 4 degrees Celsius (39F). Cooling makes a significant benefit to performance. Cooled so much it was stable overclocked to 4.4GHz. Although this test was just for fun. I'll run at stock for everyday use.
?! minimal old games? are you from the future?
@@jasonvoss1984 doesn't the moisture from aircon possibly damage your system?
I like how you went over everything here, would definitely recommend this video to anyone looking to break into PC gaming
I'm always disappointed by the lack of benchmarks at the end of these videos...
At the end of the video he says that benchmarks are coming soon. Relax
should just be part of the video not stretched to make more content! :P i am just impatient
Me too. I was thinking the same thing when I clicked this video. Joey Delgado dose a really good job at testing his pc's after building
@@gamerscore88
Well watch his stuff. Either that or have a little patience.
that's cause benchmarks would show that the chosen cpu is not even adequate for a "starter gaming pc" lol
You should do an upgrade path down the line
It's a b450. You can literally throw most ryzen CPUs in there. Just need to update the bios.
iAmPj literally?!,!,!
Agreed. Would love to see this one revisited. I've seen videos this chip OC'd with real world benefits.
That's a good video idea over time.
Any better AM4 cpu and a GPU. Done.
Now THIS is my favorite guide in English language for setting-up my first DIY PC, after retired. Thanks Paul from Peru 🇵🇪.
Paul: Long time watcher, first time builder. I'll be helping my son put this together. We added a wi-fi card and bumped the processor up a little and got it for about $400 "delivered". So appreciate your show and helping me get my son interested in a build!
cool! what processor did you go with?
@@zangetsu_the_best_zanpakuto AMD Ryzen 3 2200G. $80 on amazon right now. When I looked at the perf differences on www.cpubenchmark.net/, I thought the extra $30 was well worth it.
So basically the idea is spend alot on ur ssd or M.2, mother board. And psu so u dont have to do it down the line when u start upgrading.
Kinda. Those things are pretty fucking important and you wouldn't want to cheap out on any of them if you think about it. But usually people go with a good PSU and trash everything else and put the big bank money on CPU/GPU.
I wouldn't argue that standpoint, good solid storage and power is very important and annoying to upgrade imo. Would definitely second also spending a little more on a mobo also as that's a very important, generally long standing part of a build.
If I'm being honest, I prefer to budget in favor of everything but the cpu, gpu, and cpu cooler. Not for everything else to be overkill, but it would make upgrading super easy; just slot in a new cpu or gpu and watch as the frames increase! I'd put most of the budget into the psu, then mobo, then storage, then ram. After that the case, and everything else necessary for the pc _except_ the cpu and gpu (those are what I prefer to be the most entry level of the build). This allows for a quick and easy upgrade, like I mentioned before. Any thoughts on this build idea? (This probably only goes for a system below $1000ish, after that a more balanced build is much more effective than the above strategy)
Expensive psus are a myth. With power usage going down with every generation and SLI being essentially dead u don't need those 750+ watts monstrosities. Go on pcpartpicker, filter for full modular, get the cheapest stuff at the moment, you will be fine. Especially if it's seasonic. No need to keep sponsoring Corsair.
@@mrxanthios7045 The great value RX 580 uses quite a lot of power. The NVIDIA RTX line uses more power than the previous GTX models. Having said that, few people need 750+ W power supplies. But spending a bit more money on a good quality PSU is still a good idea. High-quality components, fully modular, and a silent fan are worth the extra money, at least for me.
They still make dual-core CPUs in 2019?
esp. for "ultra"books.
Yes, and unlocked.
A used 2200G would be around the same price as the Athlon 3000 but much better performance. Might even be able to get a 2400G. Athon series are a joke only meant for office computers.
@@thomasp4902 *LowSpecGamer has entered the chat*
If you look into entry level laptops and ultrabooks that's pretty much all you're gonna get. I guess 2019 isn't as advanced as you thought. At least these newer chips handle 2 threads per core.
Yes please show the upgrade path with the different integrated graphics options and the best dedicated gpu right now for a build like this!
After he does some fps and speed tests. WoW Classic should be a good use case for this machine.
the highest i would go with this would be a gtx 1660/ gtx 1060/ rx 580/ rx 5500
@@huskybiscuit2702 next year GTX 1060
RX 580 became potato
@@claritoresdiano1021 lol using rx 580 rn it works fine at 1080p what you talking about? With an i5 runs games good.
@@xmetalfreakx2550 RDR2 indicated new game in next year.
This looks like a pretty good setup for your first desktop pc if you are getting into computers. You can get up and running on the cheap, but also have a lot of upgradability.
Also a nice touch with the details in throwing it all together. I feel these types of videos are often overlooked, so it is nice to see they keep popping up.
would I be able to add a gpu later on? or do the integrated graphics prevent that?
@@eamonbrannigan You can have both a gpu and integrated graphics.
I used to have a pc for many years and change to laptop and I regret it. This build will give me the confidence back.. thank you!!
I love this case, have built in it before, really exciting to see it on the channel. Haven't even finished watching, but always great content Paul!
"Were looking forward to 2020"
Nononononononononono
No. We're just looking forward to November 4th.
This guy is a genius, helping a lot of lads out there for the greater future!
No he is not. Someone with a future has a job and a iq.
pat mcintyre to be fair young Einstein most are kids to 18 maybe even 24 year old.
@@patmcintyre9912 and thats exactly what he has.
I just wanted to say thank you for this video and your straight forward way of explaining things. I was debating on building my own but I'm not tech savvy enough to do it, least I thought I was. This video pushed me to make the purchase of these parts featured. My friend has a XFX GTX 570 he gave me and it is a beautiful thing! Anyways thank you so much!
dude I'm going to be building a pc for the first time and these videos are 10/10 for explanation and advice. I will be watching all of them. Thanks!
Merry Christmas Paul! to you and your family!
Merry Christmas to you too Ryan!
@@paulshardware Thanks Merry Christmas
@@canadianryan3875 this is getting out of hand, now theres 2 of them
16:11
Linus: is that CLOSED CELL FOAM on a 50 dollar case?!??
Nah linus would be going thats not a budget build two thousand dollars is a budget pc
I know how to do all this but I still watched the whole video. Paul's videos are like pc asmr. It's just relaxing.
Exaaaactly !
Yeah went and had a lie down soooo relaexed!
Paul ist straight to the point guy who does a good job of explaining how things go and work....
My son and I just completed this build, well not exactly this build. We couldn’t find a 3000G where we are in Canada, so we went with the 3200G. It turned out awesome. Thank you for these great build videos.
Thank you so much for this! I recently built an $800 build and have been loving the PC gaming life! So much so that some of my friends I left back on console want to come join me but don’t want to spend a whole lot and I think this is just what they need!
Great video!
For $350 I like to go with used parts instead of new. I have built many computers with a Ryzen 3 1200, RX 570 and 8GB of RAM for €350.
What are common prices have you bought the 1200's for?
TIK I went with a ryzen 5 2600 and 16gb 3000mhz ram that even has rgb on them I usually like to go new only but sometimes ill make an exception if the used parts are cheap enough.
@@marcopasta6274 in Australia if you can find a R3 1200 used people are asking 80-100% of new 2200G prices, nearly all our used Ryzen are like this & we can't get them new any more,
it is why AliExpress is cheaper including shipping here
Not a great upgrade path tho but good for only 350
Its easier to buy new budget sometimes for the new builder.
A cheap new computer build can give experience and learn the new standards
I'm going to buy exactly everything in the build and will come back on this video for the step by step tutorial, I bought a pre built pc that was 2.5X the price of this pc and yet it has the qualities of a 2015 office pc. Wish me luck!
Good luck!
God no don’t buy the parts on this pc
It’s absolutely a shitty ass build I can build a pc that will run circles around this build for less to the same amount of money
Before you build this, I want to suggest a better combo but you may have to go for used parts.
This setup:
Ryzen 3 1200 ($60)
Gigabye AORUS M ($90)
EVGA 500W Bronze ($50)
[some random case] ($40)
8gb ram, ddr4 3000 [whichever brand is cheap and on the qvl] ($30-40)
Radeon RX 550, 560, 290, etc. ($60-$100)
Kingston A400 or WD blue 1TB: ($30-40)
This adds to about 380-440 dollars, but it is miles better than the PC in this video. As I mentioned before, if you go for used, you will definitely be able to get this down to $350. Hell, if you have a micro center you can even get it to $350.
He looks like the kind of guy to sign a record deal with my pet chipmunks
Just used this case for my first pc build and i love it! Ryzen 5 2600 with a RX 570 4gb GPU. Unfortunately i'm still waiting on my keyboard and monitor (international shipping) BUT i'm very confident that it will work as intended! Couldn't have done it without your videos. I learned everything from you! Thank you so much
Paul is the only one that remembers us, budget gamers. Gr8 video paul!
11:08 “it time to get it put together” - Paul
Thanks for making it micro atx. People don't ever do that anymore! Dx
I'd love to see what the performance is with virtualization on this build. Thanks for the video, great content as usual!
Used this video for my first build.... needed a budget PC.. works great. Thanks
Real PC ... long time no see a PC build. It is always an amazing experience to see a functional PC build.
My favorite part of the new builds videos is when Paul always forgets to turn the power supply on xD
Loved the video Paul. This is one reason I have been recommending AMD to my friends that have to start out with a low end system but will upgrade slowly. I agree I would like to see the performance analysis of the base system and the with an upgrade path similar to what a person would upgrade. I.E. graphics card then new cpu, and continue on up from there to the highest end AMD system that can be built at this time. Thanks again and keep up the awesome work. Happy holidays!!!
“We”re looking up for 2020” that aged like milk
I first built my budget gaming pc in early 2019 and it had an RX 570 8GB R5 3600X with 2 x 8 GB 3200ghz, a few days ago I upgraded that pc to a RTX 2060 and R7 3700X. It's been such a nice upgrade, not having many framedrops in-game.
Dude TY I might build this but with a few upgrades and just keep upgradeing it overtime
Great video, although in my opinion any gaming PC beginner or otherwise needs a dedicated GPU. RX 570's are dirt cheap and play most games, 1080p, High, 60+ FPS.
Couldn’t you just put an rx 570 in this setup or nah? (I’m totally clueless on pc atm, so sorry If it’s a dumb question)
@@BobBob-qg4lo yes.
@@BobBob-qg4lo if not for the cpu being an apu and having integrated graphics you would HAVE to have a graphics card in it to even get a show display on screen , but having a apu instead of dedicated cpu / gpu combo doesn't stop you from going that route, can actually be nice somtimes to have a apu and a gpu, if you have a gpu die you can still use your pc because your cpu doubles as a low end gpu!
@@BobBob-qg4lo yes u can but the CPU is just crap. No one should by a dual core today if u want to update down the line
TheDeevil thanks
good games to test:
Older games people like to replay (GTA 5, Doom, COD, WoW, etc) with medium settings or something.
Brand new games. to show budget people what they are missing without a graphics card.
GTA V, DOOM, Witcher 3, COD Warzone, SOTTR, RDR2, AC ODYSSEY, CSGO, Overwatch
Paul i think you should have also recommended this build with the 2200g for 70 bucks with far better igpu and 4 cores
He did recommend it at 9:15. Yeah he snuck it in the middle of the vid :)
It's refreshing to see a very affordable build and I really like the cable management on that case. The semi-modular PSU probably helped with that too.
I saw this case on amazon and decided to look up some reviews and I really liked your build, might have to use this build since on a budget. Thank you. :)
How does this run Farming Simulator 2019???
Good
I really hope you are kidding
UB DATNOOB why?
UB DATNOOB I know nothing about PC’s
Because your build a pc for FARM SIMULATOR
the sky isnt the limit, your money is your limit
i would install the OS on the NVMe .
Thank you for this. I don't make a lot of money, but I am really into PC gaming. This looks like it'll help me get myself started again.
Thnx and well done! These products are actually available at these prices and it does add up to a decent entry-level pc.
Integrated Graphics and gaming used in the same sentence , times are a changin.
John Smith remember sound cards?
Actually if you force integrated gpu with card, crossfire does activate.
When can we expect the "upgrade" video Paul? I'm going to wait for that to decide which path to follow next
same
@@kiaraamarabelmar7403 GPU
@@StaticVapour590 yea wich one
@@kiaraamarabelmar7403 Get something used
@@StaticVapour590 lol
Would a ryzen 5 3600 work on a b450 mboard? Hears something about a BIOS update being required
Most B450 boards do need a BIOS update for Ryzen 3XXX. With that said, all MSI B450 boards that have MAX at the end have the updated BIOS already, no worries there.
When you buy the board the trick is to ask them to update to the bios version you need. Most places do this.
I bought a b350 for a ryzen 2600 and it has a sticker that says ryzen 3000 ready does that mean i can run it wo any problems?
Yes B350 should be able to do up to 3800x
My ASUS ROG Strix B450-F was Zen 2 ready.
Love how he pulls out the knife when he unboxing the pc case
this was such a great intro video. Someone who's in this price range is more than likely new to PC's. Great job Paul!
Him: This is a budget build
Also Him: Buys a Samsung 850 EVO SSD
They are cheap wdym?
Woop
woop indeed
*W O O P*
W O O P Y
*W 0 0 0 P*
@@air_ w(h)oop(s)
2700x is $150 on Amazon and if you have their CC you get it for $135
@Hiro Nito Got a 2600x for €125 inc tax. on black friday. An 8(16) core will be fantastic but the 6(12) is fine for me.
Bought the 2700x on black Friday at Microcenter for $129, building my computer on christmas and using the rx580 with it
wccftech.com/first-gen-amd-ryzen-cpus-are-appearing-with-12nm-zen-architecture/
I built mine. Tested it with Diablo III. Works great!. Thanks.
nice job mate , nice step by step explanation-most builders dont go into this much detail!
Nice a new build. I cant wait to get my ryzen 5 2600 pc built next month. I already have everything just need to get my cpu lol Im using the rx 570 4gb red devil gpu which is fine for me since im new to pc gaming.
CPU doesn’t matter ass much get rx 580 8gb and ryzen 5 1600
Grant2488 no not really since it’s a budget build and games relies on a gpu and not a cpu
i run 5 2600 and asrock phantom x rx570 8gb and can run aaa games at 1080p high to ualtra 60+fps and plenty of oc room
@@thomashillis1410 i have the i5 3570K (not overclocked) paired with the msi 8bg armor oc version and it plays AAA titles on high to ultra with no problem on single player. BUT These old 4c/4t cpu's have a little trouble when it comes to online gaming. not much, but this is where you start to notice some micro stutters with those 1% lows and it could ruin a game, I would assume that 2c/4t would cause the same kind of problems even if it is new.
I had read it as i5 my bad. But the atlon 3000 is only 2c/4t so still validated my point no?
The ultimate test of a PC, can it run Crysis, lmao.
What made me sad is that there's a lot of people around who are too young to understand that reference, lol.
I’m so happy that I understand this reference 😂
@ imagine going out of your way to be a hater damn.
See what gpu you can add without bottlenecking it
Yea, that can become a problem. This happen to me a few times. Yet we know the outcome will come after building a system.
I’m guessing - rx570 or so would be a good combo? What do you think
Anything above 1050Ti/1650super/Rx570 is a bottleneck
Symon Flores do you mean 1650 super?
Officer L3MON Yeah lmao
Great Build Guide for people how are interested to get into PC building
...on the Verge to perfect i might add!!!
I recently built 3 PCs in the Thermaltake H17 which is the same layout of the H18. Brilliant case for sure, good looking for the price and does what you need it to do. I'm also a huge fan of the way the drives mount to it.
You can get an M.2 256g for 39.99 on Amazon right now
in Australia the Western Digital WD 240GB SSD, WD Green 3D NAND, M.2 & Kingston A400 M.2 SATA SSD 240GB have just broken $50AUD at $49
@@shaneeslick Here in Italy the cheapest 240gb ssd m.2 costs around 33€. Also you can get a 480gb ssd not m.2 for 42€.
256 isn't a lot though, I would go for 1tb hdd + 256gb ssd but that's about $90 and at that point you could get a 660p 1tb for the same price + it's faster
@@bananya6020 Here in Australia that doesn't work out , A Western Digital WD 1TB Blue $62 + WD 240GB M.2 $49 = $111AUD, a 1tb Sata SSD is $165 or 1TB M.2 is $175AUD,
our pricing scale on Tech is totally different to a lot of other places 🤪, it drives me crazy as everyone uses $USD MSRP so really changes the $$$ value comparison,
for instance some prices match $1USD-$1AUD 😁 where others can be up to $1USD=$2AUD 😒
@@shaneeslick yikes, that really sucks...
I wish the prices weren't* more even around the world too...
The Verge: You forgot TWEEZERS!
And a Swiss army knife.
@@ibizenco That hopefully has a philips head screwdriver
nobody:
tech channels: TODAY WE BUILD A BUDGET GAMING PC
Your budget build is surprisingly close to the one I have. I have an Aorus full size ATX B450 board, AMD 2200G with 16GB, M.2 slot populated with Intel 660P 1TB SSD, and 120GB SATA for game programs. I would like to see the different budget graphic card options, an addition of a WIFI PCI-e card, maybe a couple of RGB fans, and maybe adding a USB-c 3.2 card as well. BTW, for my niece I built using a micro-ATX MSI B450, AMD 2200G with 8GB, 120GB SSD (SATA) with a Cooler Master case. I have thought of migrating her OS onto a M.2 NVME SSD as well. Great build and I also appreciate your consistent thought processes in selecting each part.
When are you going to do the different benchmarks on this build, I would love to see how this build performs
he lied to us
" it's the end of 2019 and were looking forward to 2020 " hahaha oh we couldn't of been more ignorant.🤣 love ya Paul ( no homo )
"All The Various Things".............. Yeah, Right.😂😂
BENCHMARKS?????????????????????????????????????
Probably shouldn’t be titled Starter Gaming Pc then..
FreeZz yea you can play games with that pc, one of my friends bought all the parts for this and made it, says works perfectly for gaming
@FreeZz then it isn't better than Vega 3. Vega 3 lowest settings 720p gets 120-150 fps in csgo.
@FreeZz ua-cam.com/video/GPSNS75gEtQ/v-deo.html
@FreeZz this particular tester gets 150-180 fps due in part to his impressive 4.1GHz overclock. It's likely the average userbenchmark tester has trash ram.
I still use that case! Been with me since I started my pc journey with just a 1050ti and a 7400! Now rocking a 3070 and a 9900k with all the fans installed!
I made my first PC by loosely following this as a guide since I'm a college kid. I'm very happy with the results since it's better than anything I've had before but I want to look for potential upgrades. Are you still planning to follow this up?
0:18 what's up with the fan on that cooler? lmao
Case - skin
MoBo - skeleton
PSU - heart
CPU - brain/neurons
RAM - short term memory
SSD/HDD - long term memory
Fans/AIO - lungs
KB/Mouse - hands
Very fucking cool 😎
GPU - eyes
@@filetsteak5677 I was thinking that, but the GPU is more the reverse of the optical nerves.
Our optical nerves take info in.
The GPU outputs it.
This analogy explains why you should not skimp massively on any one (or more) part, but some parts especially! (like, don't get a super sketchy heart. That's a bad plan)
@@I_am_Allan Yeah you could instead say that CPU is the frontal lobe of the brain and the GPU is the visual system (it's spread over a couple of lobes, not a clean separation. Limits of the analogy lol) I guess
AMD Ryzen 3 2200G will be a better choose for starter build in my opinion, I saw it for $70-$77 on Amazon with discounts.
Or even a 3200g for like 20 more dollars I don't know why he chose the 3000g and other tech UA-camrs are doing the same
Paul, to mitigate the cable color problem... Mask and spray paint the cables with mat-Black spray paint. If you want to go crazy just spray paint parts of the PC with colors of choice to give it a cheap and easy BANG.
Dear Paul, thank you for the video. Very informative. Currently using AMD 965, may consider an ATX case, as it has more options.
16:15 ESD = Elbow Static Discharge lol
Thx i was wondering ! :D
Some of these are higher prices then they say
And some are shipped by different people
When i typed this in to calculator it said $465
It's around 500€ for me. Is it still worth ?
Thanks for this video Paul! It’s come at the perfect time, me and my nephew were talking about building a pc together over Christmas dinner. He’s only 7 and wants to use it for Fortnite and streaming and as he gets older he can use it for school work too. I have never built a PC before so I especially appreciate that you’ve considered upgradability.
What spec would you recommend for this use case?
You’ve earned a couple new subscribers, me and my nephew will be watching! :)
Did the upgrade path follow up video ever get posted? I looked through Paul’s video archive and didn’t see it.
me: but i dont have 350$😰
also me: *ight amma head out*
Christmas/ holidays are around the corner, hopefully you'll get some $$$.
Can't believe you can build so much cheaper in US/Canada ._.
This exact same build would cost me +/- €379 (=$420 USD) in The Netherlands, that's 20% more
Rick 'RlCK' that’s because of the Value Added Tax
as far as i know that's the same with everything you buy online. prices on us online shops are displayed without tax, because taxes are different from state to state and you pay the tax of the state you live in. In the eu when you buy online VAT is displayed, because you pay the tax of the country you buy from (which is about 20% everywhere)
Sticker prices in Canada are higher than USA, a $100 item in USA will cost about $145 in Canada and has a higher sales tax rate on top of the prices.
@@yurimow Oh, really? I never knew this. That makes so much sense. So in reality the difference is minimum? VAT here is 21%, in USA it's 10% according to Google search?
@@Rick020 Yeah, it will still be more expensive, but not such an outrageously large amount after the adjustment
(I feel similarly. Computer parts are also more expensive here in New Zealand)
I think personally you made a mistake not recommending more storage off the bat seeing as something like CoD is 125 gigs base as increasing. Games sizes are just becoming bigger and bigger.
mamamia88 after the windows install and all that in a 250 YOURE left with 175-125 gigs I still think no matter it’s worth getting a larger ssd
Agreed but he's not playing COD MW 2019 on a intergrated GPU anyway !
One of your best videos in a long time, Paul! You're really good at explaining the basics clearly.
Hi, thanks for your tips on building PC.s. I'm about to build a new PC. How do you transfer all your apps, docs, pictures, internet settings and profiles from your old PC to a new PC with a fresh Windows install? There's quite a few guys out there showing how to build systems, but I've not seen any of them make videos to show you how to migrate your stuff from old to new PC. This would be very useful, especially to new builders.
Literally no graphics card is what makes it that cheap
again, that's the point of an apu...
@@ryanhodgkin7475 or integrated
Isn't it obvious?...
When your mobo is more expensive then your cpu.
Free pc build plz
c A N I Ha V e A f R Ee PC ?
Awesome video Paul, Happy Holidays to you and your family!
It's worth noting that Paul didn't build the cheapest possible 3000g system here, more one that is ready for upgrades down the line. If all you are after is a 3000g system you can do it for $100 - $150 less. A 400w - 500w PSU from a decent brand is all you need for the 3000g and it would support a GPU upgrade down the line. A case for $30 - $40 will also be enough to get you up and running but watch out for airflow at this price point, many cases are poorly designed. You can pick up a B450 board for about $60 - $80. As you can see, you can cut costs further but be sure the compromise is not going to ruin future upgradablity (like an A320 board would).
Something like Paul's build here may cost quite a bit more but it will also upgrade all the way up to the high end of AM4 (16 cores) with a simple CPU and GPU upgrade with no need to upgrade PSU or motherboard. All too often budget builders cut the wrong corners and end up paying more down the line because a PSU wasn't up to spec or the motherboard overheats with a higher end CPU etc.
I have the same a Thermaltake case. It’s a beautiful case for my set up. I just went on Amazon to see if they had any left and there are only other buyer options and the cheapest one is around $85.
So it's a starter PC build, not a starter "gaming" PC build because without a dedicated gpu you will get unplayable frames on any new games.
Why assume that all gamers want to play new games? Remember that new games cost a lot, too. The kind of people going for a budget PC would also go for discounted (older) games. Or e-sports games, which are fine on iGPUs.