These are great boots. They are available in Australia since last week and I bought a pair straight away. The stud pattern is perfect for FG, they are incredibly lightweight, they fit really well and because of the leather forefoot they will just fit better and better with time. They will get 0 marketing, but these are what the Tiempo and the Copa should be.
I am loving these - especially the black version - exactly what I look for in a pair of boots; leather, lightweight, simple construction and a great fit and sole. Also cool that they should be under warranty if any issues even on AG given the naming. Too good to pass up for just over £100 where I live!
what do you think they should do with the copa line? i have a feeling that these will sell a lot more than the copa 3 and it sounds like they are better in almost every way
This is the closest thing to the closest thing to an adi pure 2 SL from adidas that we’ve ever seen. I’m glad adidas is finally giving us a leather speed boot again after all these years
I hope this boot will get the attention it deserves, even without marketing. I am surely gonna buy a pair once my alphas break since i had already decided id rather have a boot with a less thin upper again.
As always, You bring Us new point of view. Without being attached by the text that Industries gave us about their product. It gives Us new dimension of understanding.
These look amazing but typically for my luck, just like in the case of the Puma King Pro not being available in the MG stud pattern, this stud pattern just isn't safe enough for 2G/3G pitches and they didn't make a variant with that stud pattern and as such I can't consider them, unfortunately.
I was trying to buy the alpha 2 last week in Tokyo. They were promoting these right next to the Neos. My size was out in the Japanese exclusive color. Looks like the Japanese want em. Leather doesn’t feel as nice as the neos. My guess is they’re better for the harsh fields in Tokyo. Mizuno doesn’t sell ag in Japan.
I switched from Morelia neo 4 beta japan and Tiempo 10 to Diadora Maximus elite (non ITA fits better), which can be found for 120€ these days, for that good plush leather + modern sole experience. But will be definitely trying these as well.
Hi josh, i still have my old Ace 16.1 leather. seems like the icon 2 looks similar to the 16.1. Also so the ace 16.1 leather was K-leather. Could tell me if the icon 2 is much better than ace 16.1 leather?
The big question about these are durability. New Balance is the first brand I’ve tried that my upper isn’t separating from the sole after 3 months of playing. Haven’t tried Mizuno because I have wide feet with high arches.
@@Float1ngG0atYea I wouldn’t say my feet are average by any means. Besides an all leather shoe it’s almost impossible for me to find football boots that out of the box are close to the shape of my foot.
picked up the copa 3's on discount but frankly if these were available in Canada I would have picked them up instead. They Copa Pure 3's are definitely nicer and have more high end quality of life features, but I have a feeling the icon 2's will last much longer.
Love the review and the channel, Josh! Slightly off topic, but I’m wondering if there’s a boot out on the market that is anything like the original Puma Evopower in terms of feel? I loved those boots, but can’t find them anymore :(Any suggestions (I’d take a list of options given I know it’s unlikely anything will be exactly the same) would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the great work!
Wow this is surprising. Sounds like contender for boot of the year, or at the very least best value for money. Do you prefer these or the Copa pure 3? Also vs the Morelia? Jaymike's review made it sound like this was fractionally thinner than the Mizuno, but you're saying it's more padded. Odd that it's also lighter given the extra padding. Wish the studs were shorter and all conical for Ag
Personally yes, but Pure 3 is also a great boot. Would I pick them over MIJ Morelias, no, but those also retail for $280, so the expectations should be a little higher. For what you pay, Icon 2 is as good or comes very close to a lot of much more expensive options
I just got the non-beta Morelia 4 MIJ in this colorway, and man oh man are the fantastic! They look good, they fit fantastic! They’re light and super comfy. I’ve played a couple of games in them on FG, fully broken in, and most surprising aspect has been how good the traction is despite the conical studs. I played in Vapor Elites for past 3 years and can honestly say, the traction on the Mizunos is as good or even better than Vapors on grass. And the touch with that K leather upper on the forefoot..just amazing. Anyway, glad to see Adidas were inspired by Mizuno’s really good recipe here. The Copa Icons do look good too.
With that price, pay a little more to get Morelia Neo Elite with K leather. Why not? This looks like a Chinese Mizuno knock-off with Adidas logo I saw on Shopee 😂
The Neo is a tighter fit, with a more structured mid-foot and generally a more “speed” boot type of feel. Great boots too, don’t get me wrong, just different. Both are great, it just depends on what you want in terms of feel
I've got wide feet and need the more spacious toe box. Mizunos are too narrow for my feet, unfortunately, like most pointy boots from Nike. Adidas have always fit me, though I'm not impressed with their quality. @@Soccerreviewsforyou
Hey Josh I’m a keeper , should I get the copa pure 2 for 150 on sale or the copa icon 2, I assumed the icon sole plate would be better for me but you make it seem like it’s a leather speed boot really
I much prefer the Icon 2 over the Pure 2 Elites. Pure 2 Elite KT would also be a great option if you prefer a little more of a thinner, but still soft feel.
I doubt that the copas are as good as the Mizunos. The reason is that calf leather feels noticeably different from kangaroo leather. The difference is so noticeable that it results in a totally different boot experience. I have not tried the icon 2, but I have tried Copa Pure. The Mizunos are way more comfortable and mold to your foot. The Pures were stiff and felt like a cheaper, slippery synthetic material rather than leather.
As far as how stiff the soleplate feels, I think they’re pretty similar. The zoom unit on the Mercs would be the big difference in terms of feel, but it’s more of a comfort/cushion thing, rather than making the boots feel more responsive IMO
@@Soccerreviewsforyou how would you copare them in terms of quality, do the copa's really fall behind in terms of quality compared to the morelia 4 mij?
They’re both leather boots, so they have that in common. The Gloro 2 being a much more padded boot. The Icon 2 is overall the much more premium product and feels like a high-end football boot with more “premium” characteristics. Not that the Gloro 2 feels cheap, it’s great value, but the extra $80 for the Icon 2 is very much noticeable in the feel and experience 👍
3 very different boots in regards to feel for the ball. Icon 2 if you want the most padded, softest feel, F50 Messi if you want something thinner, but still soft and GX2 if you’re after extra grip on the ball. You can get a lot more specific than that of course, but those would be the main differences. All great, just depends on what you like/want 👍
Definitely going to buy the black colorway. Finally a good boot at this price, only has been the classic Copa Mundial for so long. These are no doubt better than the current Preds and F50s
Absolutely! But they should be better quality at nearly double the price. Like I've always said with MIJ Mizuno, it's absolutely the best of the best, but it comes at a premium. I do think you get what you pay for, but not everyone sees the value in that, or can justify the high price tag.
@ I hear you, it helps if one can source Mizunos from a vendor closer to the wholesaler. I believe the retail price in Japan is noticeably less than $300 but barring that everyone has to make that call if it’s value for money. Funnily enough, I had such bad experiences with the Copa icon 1, that I decided k-leather all the way. So went from the original Copa to now Morelia 2 MIJ,
Adidas Copa Icon 2: > FG and AG compatible > Suitable for people with wide feet > Has an improved leather upper compared to the previous model > Fairly light in weight (arguably lighter than the previous model) > Still sells for $180 All of these facts speak loads in favor of the boots. The question I have, though, is: Will Adidas be selling them in only one colour way, or will there be multiple? They outdid themselves in colouring the Copa Pure 2.0, and I hope that they do the same with Icon.
hey bro, i was wondering if i could have any old football boot that you don’t really like or use, my football boots just ripped and i dont think i am going to get any good boots anytime soon. the cheap boots i buy just rip after a few free kicks. just asking if you do, would really appreciate it
@Adidas Slap some striking elements on the instep, add a fold over tongue, and make it K leather. Boom you've fixed the Predator line! I've got Morelia Neo 2 MIJ, New Balance 442 and puma King pro (take down with K leather from ~4 years ago.) This boot is made to undercut the growing Mizuno Morelia Neo market. I see quite a few High school age kids with MIJ Neos as a referee. I usually make a comment about their intelligence and good taste and point to my Asics DS Light X Fly 5's that I got for ~$160 with free shipping on ebay. Finally adidas used the tried and tested Japanese formula. They killed it for me without K Leather.
The heel cushions on the adi is horrible. This heel , rough heel sole and long studs should never be promoted for AG. Someone that moves like crazy on ag with what i explained is a qualified 🌴 cuz after a bit of game your heels will crack on AG. Avoid for aggressive players. The lockdown on the heel is not where it needs to be it more like not a lockdown to make you do your job better but like someone holds you on a guillotine to make sure your head will snap. Maybe they’ll be good for fg but sg4 no way
These are going to be huge this next year. Adi was smart to let their Japan team do a lot of the design and fit.
These are great boots. They are available in Australia since last week and I bought a pair straight away. The stud pattern is perfect for FG, they are incredibly lightweight, they fit really well and because of the leather forefoot they will just fit better and better with time. They will get 0 marketing, but these are what the Tiempo and the Copa should be.
Did you get a pair exactly like the one in the video ie FG/AG?
@@pump5991 yes that’s the only soleplate these boots come with
They lost me at $300. You can grab a pair of Morelia Neo IV Elite for around the same price,.
Oh and by the way my box arrived as smashed as Josh’s…
@@juuglord8509he clearly says 180
Definitely the next boot I’m buying. Love that color-way and AG sole-plate.
I just know that these were created by an Adidas-employee looking at an old pair of AdiPure SL saying "you know what? These rock" and went to work
I work at adidas and this didn’t happen
AdiPure SL 🔥
@@manuelaverissimo6883 party pooper
@@manuelaverissimo6883i beg to differ
It was actually the Japan design at Adi who had a heavy hand during the design process
Mizuno MIJ player here and I can say, they are simply unbeatable but good for Adidas to make a more comfortable shoe!
I was going to post a comment asking for this boot review. Thank you 😃
I am loving these - especially the black version - exactly what I look for in a pair of boots; leather, lightweight, simple construction and a great fit and sole. Also cool that they should be under warranty if any issues even on AG given the naming. Too good to pass up for just over £100 where I live!
It's £150 in the UK. Where did you get it for just over £100?
@@RagingMist ProDirect, no VAT for Isle of man purchases and a 10% discount code brought the total to about £110 :)
Watches to 2:20 all I needed to hear. just ordered them with SRFU coupon code 147 free shipping, now let me finish watching the review.
what do you think they should do with the copa line? i have a feeling that these will sell a lot more than the copa 3 and it sounds like they are better in almost every way
This is the closest thing to the closest thing to an adi pure 2 SL from adidas that we’ve ever seen. I’m glad adidas is finally giving us a leather speed boot again after all these years
Choosing between these and the 442 is all I needed to hear
I hope this boot will get the attention it deserves, even without marketing. I am surely gonna buy a pair once my alphas break since i had already decided id rather have a boot with a less thin upper again.
As always, You bring Us new point of view. Without being attached by the text that Industries gave us about their product. It gives Us new dimension of understanding.
You should make a video comparing these to the Copa Pure Elite 3s
These look amazing but typically for my luck, just like in the case of the Puma King Pro not being available in the MG stud pattern, this stud pattern just isn't safe enough for 2G/3G pitches and they didn't make a variant with that stud pattern and as such I can't consider them, unfortunately.
Loving the reference in the title Josh
Just waiting for these to hopefully drop in red then I’m buying them
NIce "Interview" Reference
Would want to see these compared to the NB 442
These are my next pairs of boots
I just ordered kaiser 5 Liga, but no worries I will also add this to my list ;)
Hi Josh, can you compare the Copa Icon2 with the pure 3?
Yes please
Pure 3 got thicker and Icon 2 got thinner - they seem way too similar now.
I think it would be more accurate to compare it with the elite Morelia and not the made in Japan one. Because it’s around the same price point
Idk if it's my age, 33, but these seem like the PERFECT football boot
They look really good and, based on the review, are really good........ But I'm still buying the Mizunos all day every day.
Bob 🇬🇧
I was trying to buy the alpha 2 last week in Tokyo. They were promoting these right next to the Neos. My size was out in the Japanese exclusive color. Looks like the Japanese want em.
Leather doesn’t feel as nice as the neos. My guess is they’re better for the harsh fields in Tokyo. Mizuno doesn’t sell ag in Japan.
I switched from Morelia neo 4 beta japan and Tiempo 10 to Diadora Maximus elite (non ITA fits better), which can be found for 120€ these days, for that good plush leather + modern sole experience. But will be definitely trying these as well.
Both are very cool!!
Fun fact: there is a black version of that one, it was pure black and gold stripes on it.
Hi josh, i still have my old Ace 16.1 leather. seems like the icon 2 looks similar to the 16.1. Also so the ace 16.1 leather was K-leather. Could tell me if the icon 2 is much better than ace 16.1 leather?
You should make a video comparing the copa icon mundial pure and gloro
I like them a LOT
The adidas boots is more expensive than the phone I'm using now 🥶
It's definitely for the pro
The big question about these are durability. New Balance is the first brand I’ve tried that my upper isn’t separating from the sole after 3 months of playing. Haven’t tried Mizuno because I have wide feet with high arches.
Usually wide feet and high arches are opposite of each other. Wider feet tend to have lower arches
@@Float1ngG0at
Cool. Tell that to my feet.
@@Float1ngG0atYea I wouldn’t say my feet are average by any means. Besides an all leather shoe it’s almost impossible for me to find football boots that out of the box are close to the shape of my foot.
picked up the copa 3's on discount but frankly if these were available in Canada I would have picked them up instead. They Copa Pure 3's are definitely nicer and have more high end quality of life features, but I have a feeling the icon 2's will last much longer.
Do you know if a sg version is coming soon ?
Love the review and the channel, Josh! Slightly off topic, but I’m wondering if there’s a boot out on the market that is anything like the original Puma Evopower in terms of feel? I loved those boots, but can’t find them anymore :(Any suggestions (I’d take a list of options given I know it’s unlikely anything will be exactly the same) would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the great work!
Unfortunately, there’s nothing similar to the evoPower 1. That line was very unique. There really hasn’t been anything quite like them since.
I ordered them. They are good but they lack in lockdown in the heel. I went with the Phantom 2 AG new and my tiempo Legend 9‘s and will rotate them.
Classic problem of old adizero / adipure sl ..
How about between this one and the elite neo4?
Nice review. I have seen some that have the nonnrounded studs with a res colour....is there any reason for that?
Wow this is surprising. Sounds like contender for boot of the year, or at the very least best value for money. Do you prefer these or the Copa pure 3? Also vs the Morelia? Jaymike's review made it sound like this was fractionally thinner than the Mizuno, but you're saying it's more padded. Odd that it's also lighter given the extra padding. Wish the studs were shorter and all conical for Ag
Personally yes, but Pure 3 is also a great boot. Would I pick them over MIJ Morelias, no, but those also retail for $280, so the expectations should be a little higher. For what you pay, Icon 2 is as good or comes very close to a lot of much more expensive options
Icl you had me at leather f50
Can you get your hands on the Japan model with the different sole plate?
I just got the non-beta Morelia 4 MIJ in this colorway, and man oh man are the fantastic! They look good, they fit fantastic! They’re light and super comfy. I’ve played a couple of games in them on FG, fully broken in, and most surprising aspect has been how good the traction is despite the conical studs. I played in Vapor Elites for past 3 years and can honestly say, the traction on the Mizunos is as good or even better than Vapors on grass. And the touch with that K leather upper on the forefoot..just amazing. Anyway, glad to see Adidas were inspired by Mizuno’s really good recipe here. The Copa Icons do look good too.
How would you compare these to the gloros?
Actually no, the most direct comparison is Morelia 2 Elite. I'd guess Morelia 2 would edge this one out.
I talk about this in the video 👍
any tips for tongue lock? Tongue moves around a little too much and ends up on the side too often...
Same price as mizuno Morelia neo elite. No doubt, get the mizunos
With that price, pay a little more to get Morelia Neo Elite with K leather. Why not?
This looks like a Chinese Mizuno knock-off with Adidas logo I saw on Shopee 😂
The Neo is a tighter fit, with a more structured mid-foot and generally a more “speed” boot type of feel. Great boots too, don’t get me wrong, just different. Both are great, it just depends on what you want in terms of feel
I've got wide feet and need the more spacious toe box. Mizunos are too narrow for my feet, unfortunately, like most pointy boots from Nike. Adidas have always fit me, though I'm not impressed with their quality. @@Soccerreviewsforyou
Hey Josh I’m a keeper , should I get the copa pure 2 for 150 on sale or the copa icon 2, I assumed the icon sole plate would be better for me but you make it seem like it’s a leather speed boot really
I much prefer the Icon 2 over the Pure 2 Elites. Pure 2 Elite KT would also be a great option if you prefer a little more of a thinner, but still soft feel.
I doubt that the copas are as good as the Mizunos. The reason is that calf leather feels noticeably different from kangaroo leather. The difference is so noticeable that it results in a totally different boot experience. I have not tried the icon 2, but I have tried Copa Pure. The Mizunos are way more comfortable and mold to your foot. The Pures were stiff and felt like a cheaper, slippery synthetic material rather than leather.
They look ok but to be honest I will never change my Mizuno Beta Japan, this cleats are amazing ones you play with them you never wanna change again..
Should I buy these or a take down mizuno if I’m looking for affordable leather boots?
mizuno elite > icon 2 >>> Mizuno pro >>>>>>> mizuno select > adidas nemeziz (will james read this hehe)
You can also check Diadora Maximus elite (non ITA). I switched from Morelia neo 4 japan to those and like them better.
Totally random but do you think puma ultra 5 outsole is more responsive that mercurial 16s?
As far as how stiff the soleplate feels, I think they’re pretty similar. The zoom unit on the Mercs would be the big difference in terms of feel, but it’s more of a comfort/cushion thing, rather than making the boots feel more responsive IMO
Are these wider than Copa Pure ? I LOVE Copa Pure but Pure 2 were too narrow for me.
They are, yes 👍
@Soccerreviewsforyou hallelujah ! Thank you !
Did you find these more wide in the mid foot compared to the morelia 4 mij?
Yes, they’re definitely wider than the Neos
@@Soccerreviewsforyou how would you copare them in terms of quality, do the copa's really fall behind in terms of quality compared to the morelia 4 mij?
How does this compare to the Copa Pure 3?
They're similar in a lot of ways, but also a lot more traditional in feel and construction compared to the Pure 3. Both are excellent boots IMO
I dont understand why K-leather isnt more used in football boots, Kangaroos are culled here in australia as their numbers cause pest issues
How would you compare these to the copa gloro 2?
They’re both leather boots, so they have that in common. The Gloro 2 being a much more padded boot. The Icon 2 is overall the much more premium product and feels like a high-end football boot with more “premium” characteristics. Not that the Gloro 2 feels cheap, it’s great value, but the extra $80 for the Icon 2 is very much noticeable in the feel and experience 👍
Mizuno Morelia II elite or new Copa Icon?
Personally, as much are I live the Morelia 2 Elite, I lean towards the Icons.
@Soccerreviewsforyou thanks Josh, Merry Christmas to You and your family, keep up the good work!💚
How do these compare to the copa pure 3? And which one is wider?
These feel a lot more traditional than the Pure 3. Icon 2 is definitely wider
Would you say in terms of upper this is better than the f50 Messi, or gx2, which is best to get?
3 very different boots in regards to feel for the ball. Icon 2 if you want the most padded, softest feel, F50 Messi if you want something thinner, but still soft and GX2 if you’re after extra grip on the ball. You can get a lot more specific than that of course, but those would be the main differences. All great, just depends on what you like/want 👍
There's no way I'm the only who got the "The Interview" referance
😂😂😂 me too
Definitely going to buy the black colorway. Finally a good boot at this price, only has been the classic Copa Mundial for so long. These are no doubt better than the current Preds and F50s
I would get these but there over $200 and I already got magistas if I couldn’t find magistas I woulda probably got phantom gx 2 pro or adidas preds
Do you wear the same size in the Copa Icon 1?
Sizing is the same, yes, but the fit is entirely different from the original
@Soccerreviewsforyou Thanks 👍
I was wondering how to get mizuno kangaroo cleats in California but maybe I will try these instead
E bay
Whats funny is a mij morelia neo 4 costs $155 in japan lol
Fear the player with white copas….
These look great. Just a shame that whenever I wear Adidas boots I get blisters galore. :(
How do these compare to NB 442 V2 Pro?
They’re a similar idea, but overall more premium than the NBs. Worth the extra $50 IMO, although the NBs are still great
I find the downside of the New Balance is the sole separation. Gone through 2 pairs now and this makes sense as an option
The superior quality of the mizuno Morelia neo beta is plain to see.
Absolutely! But they should be better quality at nearly double the price. Like I've always said with MIJ Mizuno, it's absolutely the best of the best, but it comes at a premium. I do think you get what you pay for, but not everyone sees the value in that, or can justify the high price tag.
@ I hear you, it helps if one can source Mizunos from a vendor closer to the wholesaler. I believe the retail price in Japan is noticeably less than $300 but barring that everyone has to make that call if it’s value for money. Funnily enough, I had such bad experiences with the Copa icon 1, that I decided k-leather all the way. So went from the original Copa to now Morelia 2 MIJ,
Mizuno copied their idea from adidas , mizuno took the sole plate from the F50 and upper from the Copa Mundial
Thos boots seems better than tha copa pure 3
Adidas Copa Icon 2:
> FG and AG compatible
> Suitable for people with wide feet
> Has an improved leather upper compared to the previous model
> Fairly light in weight (arguably lighter than the previous model)
> Still sells for $180
All of these facts speak loads in favor of the boots. The question I have, though, is: Will Adidas be selling them in only one colour way, or will there be multiple? They outdid themselves in colouring the Copa Pure 2.0, and I hope that they do the same with Icon.
There are two colorways available now, but I’m sure there will be plenty if they do the same thing they did with the first Icon.
@Soccerreviewsforyou I hope so 🙏 Thanks for your reply, and for the detailed video, of course 👍👍👍
Sh*t!!!! Adidas is on the right way!
Messi f50 league or phantom gx2 academy im just looking for a cheap boot to wear gor training.
Tiempo academy ..... such a solid boot i use for training and uses of AG
F50 by far
Get asics, or the mizuno Morelia pro ag. So much better at that price
hey bro, i was wondering if i could have any old football boot that you don’t really like or use, my football boots just ripped and i dont think i am going to get any good boots anytime soon. the cheap boots i buy just rip after a few free kicks. just asking if you do, would really appreciate it
@Adidas Slap some striking elements on the instep, add a fold over tongue, and make it K leather. Boom you've fixed the Predator line!
I've got Morelia Neo 2 MIJ, New Balance 442 and puma King pro (take down with K leather from ~4 years ago.) This boot is made to undercut the growing Mizuno Morelia Neo market. I see quite a few High school age kids with MIJ Neos as a referee. I usually make a comment about their intelligence and good taste and point to my Asics DS Light X Fly 5's that I got for ~$160 with free shipping on ebay. Finally adidas used the tried and tested Japanese formula. They killed it for me without K Leather.
The heel cushions on the adi is horrible. This heel , rough heel sole and long studs should never be promoted for AG. Someone that moves like crazy on ag with what i explained is a qualified 🌴 cuz after a bit of game your heels will crack on AG.
Avoid for aggressive players. The lockdown on the heel is not where it needs to be it more like not a lockdown to make you do your job better but like someone holds you on a guillotine to make sure your head will snap.
Maybe they’ll be good for fg but sg4 no way
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