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Is The Z51 Package REALLY Worth It? (2020 Corvette C8)
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2019
- Hey everyone, today we're talking all about the Corvette C8's $5000 Z51 Package. This package adds a lot of features to the vehicle which make it track ready. Now that the stats and figures leaked online for the 2020 corvette stingray, we must reconsider if the Z51 Package is worth your hard earned money. Some of the figures leaked included 0-60 time, braking distance, vehicle weight, horsepower and even top speed. Enjoy the video!
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Let us know your thoughts! If you're getting the C8, are you adding the z51 package to it?
I wouldn't buy a C8 without Z51.
Yes, because I want the track capability for Thunder Hill and I want the mag ride control for the aweful CA roads. But if you don't want to race it, then you don't need the Z51.
One of the benefits of the Z51 package is an extra 5hp and 5lb/s torque BUT it comes at a cost of $5+k and importantly 43 lbs/19.5kg in Extra Weight. So the power to weight % LOSS in itself is more than the power gain. The Z51 package gives it a performance loss, it's the effectively shorter gears by a changed axel ratio that gives it faster acceleration & the slicker tyres. Talking of weight, owners of the stock non Z51 packaged C8's could for no additional costs give it a performance boost that would go nearer towards any gains by the Z51 package.
Were they to be the not so sociable type who vary rarely take passengers, simply take out the passenger seat, all its bottom base bracket and seat belt. This would give around a 60lbs/27kg weight saving with plenty of space then for internal luggage, for long distance occasional travel that could come in handy.
An instant 1.6% power to weight gain with better acceleration, better mpg, less tyre and brake pad wear, all for free. I would seriously consider taking out that passenger seat. Saving lugging around 180+lbs of passenger and 60lbs of seating spoiling the performance. Let them be impressed from their viewpoint from the sidewalk.
I wouldn't hesitate in NOT getting the Z51 performance package. Getting it as we know will cost $5k + sales tax, avg sales tax nationally is about 8%, so that's 400 bucks on top. It lowers the top speed by 10mph, pumps up the insurance costs every year, lowers the mpg, costs the owner a new set of 4 season tyres, plus possibly 4 new wheels to have them pre fitted for change over convenience. The extra cost of all that and its detriments, puts me off.
AND possibly a big twang up if the car is driven in bad weather until the all season tyres are reluctantly obtained. Jan/Feb/March won't be such a great weather base for some States, but the hot heads will be out there in the cold and wet on their summer tyres. All to get that 0.1 secs or so faster 0-60mph, that and it's other benefits... Is it really worth it, I really don't think it is.
Later on in a few years when the 3 year warranty has run out, when those in the used car market want a straight non ripped & ragged out C8, they may well want just a stock C8, something they can slap a Whipple Supercharger on, (If one is made to fit) and have themselves something with C8 Z06 performance or even better, all on the cheap.
A 210mph monster for the cost of a used stock C8 and $10k fully fitted for the Whipple. Makes sense to me.
Then this 0-60mph figure that folks are so keen on will be better than a C8 with a Z51 package. Putting the $5k savings on not getting the Z51 package towards the $10k supercharger. You may even need to get a new exhaust system to fit with a supercharger fitted, the one in the Z51 package might become a wasted item. There are bound to be better exhausts that come along than the Z51 package one. 5hp seems puny to me.
If the majority of C8 owners get the Z51 package, the stock C8 will be more rarer, I'm convinced later on the stock C8's in the used car market will be more desirable in some areas than is currently forecast. Folks are getting whipped up in the frenzy of it all, being convinced and convincing themselves the Z51 package is the best option. With the previous C7 Corvette maybe it was, but you may find the C8 is a different matter, this industry changing vehicle changes so many things, the Z51 package could be one of them.
I personally would avoid the Z51 package. It has it's benefits, quite a few benefits, but for what I'd want a C8 for it just wouldn't fit in with my plans. For others maybe it would, if so good luck to them and all C8 corvette owners. There's a nice little mark up for the dealer with each Z51 package sold, but they wouldn't get one off me, no matter what they or anyone else said.
Definitely with the z51!
I agree with you. I ordered the 2LT trim, and since I don't plan on going on any race tracks with it I passed on the Z51 package. Some of my friends think I'm crazy for getting the C8 if I'm not going to track it, but for me it's more of a weekend and special event car for me and my wife to enjoy.
I ordered mine with the base package 1LT. I'm with you on this one. Trying to keep the price down. I only added the black wheels for $900 to my Ceramic Matrix gray order. Price - $60,900!
Now add tax, title, registration and doc fees $70K that's if the dealer doesn't decide to price hike your order LOL
@@ELECTRICEYEMEDIA Redo your math. Title, reg, fees are less than $1000. Sales tax @8% is $5k (rounded up). That results in under $67k out the door.
Smart man!
I ordered C8 3LT Z51 Blade silver, sky grey interior. Z51 is worth is to me in that all those small upgrades are less about the 0 to 60 and more about feel and sound of the driving experience. And 5000 will be worth that experience guaranteed!
3LT and Z51 costs a pretty penny but it'll be fully loaded which is great!
DailyDownshift true, I also got suede steering wheel which is amazing feeling while driving a car. I have 675 hp Roush mustang and the upgrades like suede steering wheel I have and exhaust, stiffer suspension just makes you feel more like your driving a sports car rather than regular sedan :). But of course there is a huge cost with the c8 I will have to pay.
@@DailyDownshift UA-camrs compare the C8 to supercars then say the options are expensive. lmfao!! A fully maxed out C8 is 100k. A fully maxed out Huracan is 400k.
Base model fine with me, NICE RETIREMENT GIFT at 52, ALL GOOD ! ! !
Congratulations!
Myoung Woon Kim I just got 2 jobs for this car, I will be you I swear 😭🙏🏾
I was thinking the same thing. The base model of the car or even 2LT would be nice. The Z51 package for 5k is not worth the cost for a very small performance. Hoping to grab one of these in a couple years when the price comes back down.
@@codgamplay1000 did you get it bro?
@@jayyf3609 i quit my second job at McDonald’s lol and i still got my job @ heb I quit tryn I’m only 20 turn 21 next month maybe I’ll like win the lottery or som, working day and night was just way to harrrd
The top speed difference is likely more related to the lower gearing in the diff, than it is from the spoiler.
You are absolutely correct. The final drive ratio difference I’ve seen is 5.726% which approx. tracks to the 184 vs. 194 top speed difference.
More evidence that the guy who made this video isn’t very accurate with his commentary.
I plans to keep this corvette the rest of my life so I am going for every option, you are correct about the Z51 Pkg, but my wife will drive this Corvette when I pass on in life so for someone my age it makes sense. Happy new year to all!
Your widow will be tracking your car?
I agree with everything you said, especially the trans cooler. And YES to that high wing! If z51 came with mag ride, then it would be worth it.
Thanks man! I have been looking for this!
Great simple and short review great facts to the point
Great video. Am ordering LT1 with exhaust system upgrade. Not ordering Z51 package, as i will not be doing any tracking. I agree that sticking as close to the base model pricing as possible is your best move. You will probably be able to sell it within the first 2 years and get close to what you paid for it if you should decide to upgrade later. Also getting the black mirror option for a $100. Also front license plate bracket for $15, since Virginia requires front plates. Dealer told me probably 4th quarter delivery. Dealer told me they are producing the LT2 and LT3 models now and wont start producing the LT1’s until May.
Very informative, thanks!
Great video I never thought I would track my 02 ZO6 until a friend invited my to a track event it was great met some awesome people. I sold the ZO6 and now I have a 17 GS which I love.I do two or three events a year NYST in Oneonta NY and NJMP in New Jersey. I would definitely get the Z51 Package I also like to keep the cost down the other option would be black wheels that’s it done.
I'm getting Z51. I like the spoiler a lot, and you need the front splitter that works with it. The additional radiator, the exhaust, brakes, and shocks are all a bargain IMO.
You forgot to mention that the Z51 package comes with an electronic limited slip differential which is more sophisticated than the base (non-electronic) limited slip differential.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video, you did a grate job. If feel that when it comes time to sale this C-8 everyone’s going to want the Z-51 pack that’s just my thought.
I live in Canada as well. Do you know when we can start specking out the cars and when they will arrive in dealerships.
I passed on the engine dress up package as well , its the first and easiest thing the aftermarket will blow up with !
Very true.
The only value that I would see in the Z51 package for me, since I won't track the car, would be resale value. But likely will not get the Z51 package.
Resale will be maybe...maybe 25% of the money spent....not worth it.If not less.
I think you’re spot on. If you’re a track guy, get it. If not, no need. Spend the extra $$$ on a 3LT trim or wheels.
When you rear end someone at 5 mph stopping from 60 mph you will wish you had the better brakes.
Thanks for the great review it was really good I learnt quite a bit of ever come up to $60,000 American it’s it’s something I’ll certainly consider
Well reasoned and I agree with everything you have said.
I opted for the HTC and Z51 and only 1LT. I love the HTC it looks way more exotic. For me the Z51 is worth it. I drive my Corvette’s hard so it’s worth it for me to have the higher performance package over the bling interior. Also it’s not the 5 HP for the Z51 upgraded exhaust but it sounds much more aggressive. And your wrong about the higher option cars depreciating faster. It’s the other way around the higher optioned Corvette’s hold their value better over time. I’ve owned 8 Corvettes and that’s been my experience.
The biggest reason I got the Z51 packages on my 2016 Stingray is for the bigger rotors and brakes. That alone was worth the extra money. I think it matters on the C8 as well. Forget what this dude says about "not worth it." It's your money. If you don't track the car, so what. It DOES make sense if you're happier with the upgrades. These cars aren't investments. They're just for fun. Hell with appreciation or depreciation. That's not why we drive Corvettes.
yeah on the c8 you only get bigger rotors not cailbers and there only slightly bigger 12.6 to 13.6 and 13.3 to 13.8, and if you plan to get the mag ride control you must get this package
I don’t think it’s really worth debate at all whether the Z51 is “worth it or not”. $5k is worth a lot more to some than others. But it’s really only a few percent on a $70k car. You are buying a mid engine sports car for Christ’s sake. What’s $5k? You can’t justify this car anyway except for four basic reasons: its fun to drive, it looks cool, it makes your friends and neighbors jealous, it’s way cheaper than a Ferrari or Lamborghini or most Porsche’s. I’m buying this car simply as a fun toy for the weekend. I may only track it a few times in its life. But I’ll buy a loaded one because it checks all four boxes much better on the rationale index. It’ll make me happier. Buying a mid engine sports car, and then being cheap about it just seems a bit hypocritical. I WANT the eDiff, I WANT the front splitter and rear spoiler, I want the better brakes and cooling, I want the louder exhaust, I want the mag ride. It all makes it a better car. Do I NEED them? Heck no. But do any of us really NEED this car in the 1st place? Heck no. Even if it ends-up costing $85 or $90k... who cares. The one truth is it’s still a super bargain as compared to the Euro cars. If you are going to splurge on a sports car, do it right. For certain, it ain’t about resale value. If you are worried more about how much $$ you’ll lose on depreciation as a criteria, then I don’t think you should drop a dime on a Vette. If you can’t find or afford another $5k on $70k, maybe you also shouldn’t be buying a Vette. One thing I think may be true: if you buy a cheap 1LT vette now, you WILL be wanting to sell it in a few years. Im not sure there are any bragging rights for frugality in buying a cheap Corvette. If my dad had bought a base 60’s Corvette, it would probably have hit the scrap heap by the 90’s. But since he opted for a fuelly and all the options... it is now a drool car at Barrett-Jackson. Step up to the plate and get a decent Vette, and your kids or grandkids will be happier because you might actually hang onto the thing... not for the money, but for the fun of it.
100% pass on the Z51 unless you hit the track on a weekly basis.
You can still track non Z51 and 90% of owners don't have the technical ability to overheat any car on a race track(breaks not included 8-)
"breaks"? ugh
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Apart of racing, there are two more points that could speak in favor for the Z51 package.
1. Optics - If you don't intend to buy a spoiler on the aftermarket, you only have the high wing, or Z51 option. The high wing might have benefits on the track, but for people that see the C8 also as an every day driver, it might be too sporty optics and the Z51 package actually gives the better balance of optics and performance.
2. Magnetic Ride - Here again the benefit for the daily use and not necessarily having a suspension that is trimmed for the track, is only available if you take the Z51 package.
I don't know if Mag ride is not usable for the standard suspension in older Corvettes either, or why Chevy chose to sell only the exhaust as a seperate option from the Z51 package, but not the spoiler (something similar to M or AMG optic packages would had been nice), or other features, but it certanily is a limitation.
Mag ride is an additional expense though, Z51 and that costs just shy of $7,000. That's close to $10,000 Canadian, that's a hard pass from us. I see what you're saying though in regards to the optics, the high wing is not for everyone.
The non-Z51 C8 has a softer spring rate and is the most comfortable option.
If you wait a year or two, these options will be more interchangeable. Same thing happened on the C6 and C7.
Z51 on the street is like the old Chevy Truck ad that implied it will ride "Like a Rock" without Mag Ride.
The package IS $5K but one REALLY should add the Mag ride control or the stiff suspension sucks on a daily driver. So Z-51 will really be $6895. If one lives in a colder climate the SUMMER ONLY rubber will need to be taken off as soon as it gets cold. They are especially worthless in cold WET conditions. Unless one REALLY tracks the car it's not worth getting. DO opt for the NPP exhaust though. $1195 for a far better sounding exhaust. I'm deleting z-51 going 2LT without. Cheers.
And getting smaller brakes. No thanks.
Passing on the base C8 & waiting for a Z06.
This helped - I really want to order Z51+magneride+2LT but the smart money is baseC8+magneride only - I think as I will only rarely track the car if at all. I have magneride on my 2015 tahoe LTZ and was cursing the dealer replacement quote when the front shocks went out at 75K but when they work magneride shocks worth every penny. Ferrari licenses them from GM. I am 64 and have had a long string of performance vehicles American, German, British, etc. I'm planning on selling my 911 and ordering a 2021 c8. BTW I tracked my 911 and I was passing everyone in the Porsche club except for a couple of guys and it - finally - occurred to be that everyone else was out there in their $100k street cars so they weren't really willing to really push it anyway. I used to race motorcycles and had a great time but - eventually - one day (brake fade) I went into a gravel trap with the 911 at nearly 100 mph - so ask your self are you really really willing to push your c8 - Z51 or not - hard enough to risk putting it into gravel trap. FYI, it ends in a massive could of dust and the tow truck has to pull you out. It took 6 months to get all the dirt and gravel out of the undercarriage.
I would take the base model, and there would be ton! of aftermarket parts. Exhaust systems that really kicks the engine noise alive. Aeros parts and more! I'm excited!
Tr y to sell add ons ! Factory is the way to go ! Don't punk out!
Smalls, you’re killing me!
You are right. I have a 2005 with the z51 pkg that I have never tracked. Handling and ride are good for me. I do mostly highhway driving and I average 100t mph whenever I drive it. I LOVE my c6!!! Oh, my only upgreade is K&N COLD AIR INTAKE professionally tuned.
"Cold air intake"? Was it getting hot air from somewhere before this?
Im ordering z51 fe4 and thats it. I respect your logic and wish you well. I would suggest looking for the major auto buff books review on the standard and z51 fe4 c8 s. Thank you for your video.
I think we'll find out just how valuable the package is once people can compare and actually drive the car, until then it's more or less speculation.
was watching another video, when this one started playing right after. And im like "oh this dude sounds just like nKush"
In person, how does it compare with the C7 in regards to exterior size? Videos and pictures like this makes the C8 seems look bigger/blotted and taller than a C7...I'm hoping that I'm wrong.
Chevy is giving us so many options on the C8, it is mind tingling. Options to your own preferences and budget.
Too bad you don't get the option of who builds and assembles your engine blocks LMAO
Very Informative in Z51 Package, I rather save the 5k, package not worth it, very few are taking it to the track!
Today i have an mustang gt 2018 with all i euqipment i could get is there anything i will miss if i buy this c8 for example i cant see any lights from the sidemirrors like i have in my gt that lights up apony in the ground
What are the gear ratios in both ? Does the z51 have the electirc posi diff too?
WOW !
Beautiful Just Beautiful
I will have one or
Two is more likely as My Wife and I have two Corvette's already and we will Never sell them !
I would like to see the
Z06 C-8 and I would like to see if Corvette is going to make a V-8 Turbo charged with a electric all wheel drive model "Not Like I would ever want one" but Just to see their plans for the future "Corvette has Always been a Leader" and not a Follower like most of the Copy Cat's Japanese owned car companies
It's funny to see Ford ad's on a New Corvette Video
Thank You for Sharing This Awesome Video
It is well done & answered all the way Around
I care more about 60+ mph acceleration more than 0-60 personally and why I may off for the C8 Z06.
You can get the performance exhaust as an à la carte option with any trim.
Z51 is a waste of money if you don't track alot. The spoiler ruins the natural flew of lines on the car. The tires are worse and expensive to replace. No one will ever notice the differences in daily driving. The no brainer is dont get suckered into it by salesman or overzealous fans who are never going to buy the car anyway.
I agree 100% with this assessment, especially the aesthetic effect of the wing - hate it, really makes the rear boxier/camaro like
#2017Zo6M7Owner💥🙌🏾🇺🇸💥
Good call..‼️
Great job on this Z51 package vid! I have been trying to decide if the Z51 package is a good value. Honestly the only two options that are make or break for me are appearance based. I want the smaller Z51 spoiler and the front splitter that’s it. I will not track this car and would actually prefer the base model PF3 all season tires as well. I don’t see the option on the C8 builder site to simply add the two above mentioned items. Thoughts?
aftermarket
Z51 comes with height adjustable suspension not available with base C8. I specifically want that, front lip, and the NPP exhaust (available as non-Z51 option). Those would easily approach 2.5k including installation in the aftermarket. Add in the other goodies factory installed and 5k seems like a bargain.
Also top speed is limited by Z51's different axle ratio geared for 0.1s faster 0-60. The spoiler likely hinders acceleration (more downforce at higher speeds than at 0-60) more than top speed.
Stuck at Coffee shop. Cost is $2.00 for normal cup or $2.05 for a little more caffeine. Holding up the line, don't know what to do. I could spend the 5 cents on a straw or lid. Or pay off that deck screw I have on lay-away at the hardware store. If I spend the $2.05, I can always make it up by using shorter shoe-strings for a couple years.
Being in LA, knowing the market, we must order with Z51!
Why is that... Might i ask.. Just curious..
If I could get just the Brembos, exhaust valves, and front end lift in a package available for the base 1LT, that'd be perfect for me. I'm waiting for the Z06, myself. That big wing would be too 'boy racer' for me for the street.
Corvette with no Z51 package is like a 1 ton dually with a gas engine.
What do you think about waiting for Z06 specs instead or ordering the first line of C8s at all?
Recently, as in 5 mins ago notified my car salesman that I would opt out of the exhaust package, I did however include the front lift memory, High wing Carbon fiber spoiler, and Luggage bag. This video definitely came in handy thanks!
Where can we see video of the new vette moving around a track ?
all vets are track ready... It's a freaking vet!!.. Non needed on the Z51...i just want the automatic front in lift...and the top speed drops with Z51..
Thank you I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out what add ons I want
I have a lt1 with the z51 spoiler and the brakes and all are fine. I had a lt3 but I don’t miss anything honestly. The lt3 has nice features but the cost 10-20k more than my 63k lt1 I also did the sport exhaust and added the front splitter. I have upgraded rims and silver gm engine cover and spent maybe 3-4K for my upgrades.
If you I decide to get the Z51 package what are your thoughts about the performance suspension with Magnetic Selective Ride Control?
Do you loose the elsd with the new retractible hard top convertible?
Forget that package! Spend the extra on the convertible!
In curious can you see the engine with the convertible? If so ill get that but if not ill stick to the coupe
@@jcherrax Not really, there is a small vent on the deck.
@@InuranusBrokoff damn i like the convertible but then the coupe is very nice to cant decide ill have to see it in person
@@jcherrax I cant wait to see them in person myself.
@@InuranusBrokoff same 🙂👍
I have a confession. I saw the new C8 Corvette from a different light today. I usually have to grow into liking a car, but this time I grew out of liking a car. Sometimes down the line, maybe 3-5 years later I ask myself how I could have liked a car. Today, I did that with the Corvette. The Ferrari has a nice shape, the lambo has a nice shape. This car looks like someone designed the front and someone designed the boxy back. The boxy back takes a lot away for the asthetic. Even though the sales will be great, because there are so many people excited about the redesign and all the power, lots of people will have the same negative feeling about the car. It looks like a 2000 concept Corvette, this already aged. I think it's the boxy back of the car that makes it look that way. Don't get me wrong, it's gonna sell like crazy.
Anyone feel the center console in the c8 corvette is too crowded? The touch screen monitor takes up like 60% and the buttons are compact too close.
Thank you. Does Z51 have a soft setting for daily driving? Or do you also need MRC to achieve that? Little confusing. Videos stress only to get Z51 if you'll track your car (I won't) but hard to believe you'd also need MRC to get a daily driver setting. Please clarify. Thanks again.
yes you need the MRC to change the settings for sport to track and so on. if not you just get the hard track suspension to drive on daily
For those of us in colder climates, does the Z51 package make winter driving (with winter tires) more feasible?
As an ignorant person, the differential and magnetic ride rail sound to me life they could really help me avoid the cost of buying a second car for winter.
Definitely getting one, but without the Z51 package, but with LT2 package for $7,000 more, look what you get for that price...WELL WORTH IT!!
Exactly what I was thinking... I don't like the Z51 tires anyway
The LT2 package is not worth it. What do you think you get for all that money?
Not to mention, I think a track package becomes more valuable or more bang for the buck when incorporating it with say a Z06 c8 and even greater with a zr1, greater still with a Zora top model producing less drag for the down force with active aero over a base model Zora. You also get bragging rights to say you only spent 58k or under 60k for a midengine car that does 0-60 in 3 sec. 194 mph etc
What’s everyone’s opinion on the mag ride? For my car, it will NEVER be on a track and just driven on the weekends. Is it needed or worth it? Thanks.
Great video, I was really not sure about the z51 but this really helped me
I thought I was watching a million subscriber UA-cam’s video sick job man keep it up
Thanks, we appreciate it :)
The top speed difference is going to be due to the difference in final drive between base and z51...
The stock option seems better than this added package.
The basic assumption that 0 to 60 is the most important criteria is flawed unless you think driving in a straight line takes skill. The braking is much more important along with traction. And since the is a road car as well as a track car it’s ability to correct if you get out of shape on the street, which you never should but it happens, is critical. Zero to 60 can be had for a lot less money
The only thing I want is the rear spoiler color matched to the whichever of the 3 colors I'm trying to decide on. I don't care about all that other Z51stuff. I'm never ever taking it to the track, I'm only pulling it out on weekends and whenever me and my lady decide to hang out. I know it's a "sports car" but I'll be cruising in mine.
axle gear ratios effect acceleration at all speeds, not just 0-60!
Z51 ... will add to resale...no matter how you drive.
The primary reason for buying the performance exhaust is not the added 5hp. It is the fact that the butterfly valves and altered path through the muffler produces a huge difference in sound that is adjustable by the driver. It’s the throaty exhaust noise not the trivial added horsepower that makes people drop $1200 on it. That it is included in Z51 is a big benefit of the Z51 package.
Good point, on my build I have the performance exhaust by itself included as an option but passed on the z51.
Being honest as i can be... i only got the z51 package because i wanted the z51 spoiler, brakes/rooters, and the under body kit (front lip) with the side rockers that comes standard in black when adding the z51 package. That alone... is worth every penny, everything else that the z51 package comes with is considered a PLUS!
AMEN,
I don't/won't track my car so don't want the stiffer suspension.
I believe you have to have the Z51 package to get other options.
I want the front-lift option, Mag-ride-control option, exhaust-control option, and PDR option. Some of these require the Z51 package, correct??
Question: How do you C8 buyers get over the fear of buying the 1st model year??
Skip the mag ride. Not worth it.
I don't think the Z51 is worth it. You make a great point in if you are going to track the car. You do need the bigger breaks and radiator if tracking. I have seen your video on this several times for months. I rather put that 5K into a L-2 C8. Really nice video you have put out !
Take the 5K and buy the larger GM radiators, aftermarket cat back exhaust, a pair of 6 Piston Wildwood front calipers /13" rotors and Forgeline wheels and your favorite track tire. You could prolly get almost half of that for 5K and spend another 5K to get the rest . Way faster per lap than any Z51 , Sounds better, looks better, and performs better. Oh yeah I guess you could buy a wing if your into that. But minimal if any, performance will come from it ,over the stock one.
I buy them used. The Z51 won't demand anywhere near a $5K premium on the used car market. Maybe $2K-$3K at most. So, if I find one I really like and it happens to have Z51 I'll be fine at that upcharge (as happened with the 2015 C7 Z51 I got a few months back.) I'm not real fond of the Z51 spoiler either -- but in black it's not so bad.
To measure the Z51 difference based on 0-60 is interesting. The Z51 will corner, stop, accelerate, cool, and do many things more efficiently.
Its all about the Mag Ride.. If you are using this as a daily driver (forgetting the track advantage), It will be a much better road ride with Mag Ride which you can't get without the Z51....
So if you're looking for mag ride, you'd need to spend an additional $7k, quite a lot..
will be my first Vette and I will be daily driving so my question for you is the mag ride worth all the extra costs? Thanks ADAM
@@adambutler1094 From speaking with numerous Corvette C7 owners they have informed us that it is definitely worth it. You get a sporty result when racing but it can also be very comfortable when cruising, which is what a lot of owners want. That being said, it is costly. We have not personally driven one with Mag ride but you can always test drive a C7 and try it out!
I agree with you. I’m ordering a base only. After a few years the resale value of z51 3lt is only 1/10 what you paid msrp. The base holds the best resale value.
Yes, yes and yes!
Tony Ade You’re absolutely right
Your a fool kid! Upgrade or loose it when you sell dont forget your market! Old guys rule!
Yes but the only add on i want is the one that allows u to raise or lower the car, just so u dont scratch it.
Great video, but you forgot the magnetic suspension...
Yes, but the problem is that mag ride is an ADDITIONAL cost on top of the z51 package price, close to $7000k together I believe.
Magnetic suspension is not included in Z51. It is another $1895 (US) option.
@@donnycox2399 right but he was saying you have to get the z51 or you cant get the mag ride option
I am wondering how well the car will ride without the mag suspension. Every review is with the z51 and mag suspension. What about the base cars ride?
@@dmraco I saw a review that said the base ride would be between sport and sport plus which will be pretty stiff. I wasn’t going to get the magnetic dampers until I saw that. We’ll know more in few months once people start getting their cars.
Buying bigger brakes afterwards and aftermarket trans cooler seem to be best for you then.
I added the Z51 package. I just got notice from GM that my car is further backdated for another 6 to 8 weeks.
Strike
That's because the Canadian employees at The Mexican Nemak plant in Windsor Ontario went on strike a few months ago and GM has had to move all operations down to Nemak in Monterrey Mexico where the Mexican workers will happily assemble your LT1, LT2 and LT3 blocks for you LOL.
@@ELECTRICEYEMEDIA LOL. When you are buying a Vette, it comes when it comes. I ordered my C6 and did not pick from the lot. Waited 5 weeks. Didn't matter.
Very good comparison for Z51 package or not.....thanks.
How does the stock suspension feel in comparison to the “softest” setting on the z51/magnetic suspension?
dmraco you don’t get magnetic suspension with z51 package...it’s an upgrade in itself
Good Ground yes. But unfortunately the magnetic suspension is not a stand alone option. I really don’t want z51
@@dmraco It used to be a stand alone option on the C7. I have it on mine and its not a Z51
@@dmraco It will be a stand-alone option for the 2021 model.
www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a31976328/2021-c8-mid-engine-corvette-updates-report/
Wish i could choose adrenaline option but make interior white instead of black with white exterior. Cool gray will look dingy looking with a white exterior.
I don't like the Z51 spoiler, it makes the rear end even busier, but I would want the magnetic dampers, and they are not available unless taking the Z51 package. For those looking at wanting the performance and butterfly valve exhaust, it's available without the Z51 pack.
Maybe then get the z51 package and the high wing spoiler then?
@@DailyDownshift It's an alternative, for sure. Or just get the package since it brings better brakes, and the e-diff, and possibly delete the spoiler. Alternatively there'll be some aftermarket spoiler out, but it will require proper development has been carried out. Or I'll get use to the look.
You don't want more cooling in Canada? lol. Resale sucks with a option heavy vette.
I'm from the Netherlands in Europe, iam going to import my C8 corvette in March next year it will be a 2lt package, no Z51 package I don't need it, iam trying to put cost down, torch red with skycool gray interior will be perfect for me
Been to the Hague a few times. Frankenslag street where my sister and brother in law lived to be exact. I hope you take it over the border on the autobahn and avoid all those stupid speed traps in Holland
@@qwertyui859 thanks sir, I live in the city called den haag
Did you get a reliable statement from corvette that the engine will pass EU regulations? That's the only thing holding me back from ordering right now.
@@ax251 Gm announced 1month ago that the C8 will be available for Europe, but I will not order mine from a dealer. I have a friend who lives in Florida Miami, he will buy the car for me and he will ship it to Rotterdam harbor, close to my home, its cheaper to do that. I did that for my first C4, and C6 corvette. There are lots of dodge ram in the Netherlands, but there is no dodge dealer in the Netherlands you must import your dodge yourself 😊😊
So? Add a spoiler and slow it down? 🤔
i am leary of buying a car in it's first year of production so i was planning to wait to get the 2021 so i was quite chagrined to hear that there will b a significant price increase, can u elaborate on the certainty of this. also i chatted with the corvette concierge re warranty info and was told there was none available
Demand is very high for the C8 and sources have stated that there will be an increase; we don't know how significant though.
Regarding the warranty, there are federal mandates in place to protect consumers, so it doesn't seem possible that there would be no warranty available.
I think I am gonna change my order now
Highly encourage the package if you are tracking. Why wouldn't you track a car like this??
Just re-watched this...but is it worth 5900 CDN?
Cheers,
Kevin
Ottawa
Costed?
I have a C7 Z06 and I expect the C8 with Z51 to perform about as well, possibly better, on most road tracks. A lot less horsepower but better traction and much faster shifts. And how the aero drag affects top speed is effectively meaningless, as you drive most road courses between 50 and 150 where the downforce from the added aero is way more valuable than its drag at high speeds. I’m not sure that I want to wait for the hybrid Z06, but we’ll see when the time comes.
A C7 Z06 will definitely out run the C8 Z51 on any track. Look at all the mid-engine cars with a DCT with much more hp than the C8 that the C7 Z06 has already beat.
well if the car car and driver tested is what there selling then the base car has 550whp and 511wtorq iirc. yes i know what i wrote and the car is rated at 495 but on the dyno these were the numbers
@@bigsean2473 dont be one of the people that doesn't think for themselves and actually believes that. The dyno was obviously wrong. If the C8 had that much power its trap speed would be much higher in the quarter mile. Trap speed doesn't lie, look at what a z06 does vs the C8. Not to mention, the c8 is SAE certified at 495hp therefore, on an engine dyno it will make within 2% of that rated figure. Lastly, how would a naturally aspirated LT2 that only has a different intake and exhaust manifolds and slightly revised cam put down as much wheel hp as a C6 ZR1? The problem is people will read that article and actually believe that without understanding anything about hownany of this works.
@@EK-rr2md did you read what i wrote?? i didnt say it was right. i said if it was right and if they are going to sell them with that. until they hit the streets and more dynos are run i wont say who is right or wrong
i just ran some numbers through some hp calculators and 124mph trap speed is 520hp
Totally worth it.
QUESTION: Is this engine turbo or super charged? 495HP seems kind of low to me.
No, it is not. I was expecting more myself, but for the overall performance vs the price I guess it isn't that bad.
Can u get the car lift without z51 package
Yes, but only if you opt for 2LT or 3LT