Top 10 Worst Super Smash Bros. Stages (ft. Wambu)
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2023
- For the penultimate list of Smash Bonanza Month, Wambu and I partake in a collab countdown at long last as we take a look at the ten Super Smash Bros. stages that we find to be the absolute worst to play on. Enjoy!
Wambu's channel: @Wambu - Ігри
This felt like a video from 2011 and I mean that as a compliment
How is this not the top comment yet?
Hi Schafrillas Productions from hit UA-cam channel Schafrillas Productions
your first take in 2023 that I agree with
oh my god it's you
like idk if you regularly watch either of these two but you HAVE to
Both of the channels in this video are like that all the time, it’s great
Also hi Schaff 👋
The worst part about 75m is that there were three other objectively and infinitely better stages they could have used to represent Donkey Kong, but they instead chose 75m. THREE TIMES.
I kinda did wished they would include other levels from DK or DK94.
What's even worse is that there was a cosim to 75m being 25m which WAS IF NOT EVEN MORE ICONIC THEN 75M AND THAT DIDNT MAKE THE VUT BUT THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE DID.
25M is more iconic IMO. Yeah it’s the first level but it would make more sense
@@liammcnicholas918 you get it
@@liammcnicholas918
It is the one with the Hammer after all.
"Aren't you a ghost?"
"Yes. That's how I know dying is more fun."
Hilarious! But could someone give Wambu a hug? His computer broke and I worry about him.
Hi! Thank you for the kind words but I'm doin ok! I'm making up the lost progress slowly but surely, and morale-wise I've been doin aight :3
@@Wambugood to hear :)
@@WambuPraise the Metal Ability
Maybe if you're SCRAPPY in a certain way. Okay. I'll see myself out now.
Tf2 players can agree with that statement
Fun Fact: Key had no idea about Hbox getting a crab thrown at him until last night.
WAMBU WAS THE ANSWER TO THE SHANTAL HINT
Oh. I thought it was the Luigi's Mansion stage.
The worst part about 75m is that damned Pauline spirit fight
Play the Donkey Kong & Lady battle from the Spirit Board
This is Pauline ON STEROIDS!
Giggamac is still worse. A massive guy with no hit stun that doesn’t have to worry about recovery.
You can cheese the Pauline fight by equipping a Staff item and going to the bottom left side of the screen. Just shoot her until she's KO'd, easy peazy.
She is pain incarnate
The actual optimal strategy for the pauline spirit battle is run away and pray that the CPU walks into the blast zone or falls off.
Also use staff and projectile spirits
Also use the cupid spirit to get the staff and then use it at the start because peach wont move and shes exactly across from you
@@susiehaltmann3342 I think its because the Donkey Kong series is known for brutal difficulty, that Sakurai chose 75 because it's so hazardest.
The good news is that the DK reps can do a pretty decent job surviving this stage because thier good at platforming.
27:35
“So many cool Kirby set pieces to choose from…”
Oh my god, he’s right though. Jambastion, the Access Arc, or even Sectonia’s palace
would’ve been sick. And, there’s many others you could propose.
Hanenbow is a stage that can best be described as a shame.
Electroplankton is one of the most relaxing games I've ever played - if you can call it a game, it's really more of a music creation tool. It's a really great obscure DS game that was developed by one guy, and I'm really happy it got some representation in Smash... but it's just unfortunate that it's this stage. I'm willing to let the visuals off the hook because, y'know, one guy, but the design isn't getting off that easily.
When a stage in Smash bros feels like you are fighting the STAGE more than your actual opponents, *PAC LAND* , *75M* , *MARIO BROS* , *RUMBLE $&@$ FALLS* , then we have SEVERAL problems…
I like ChaosKey's reasoning for blocking out any stronger bad words from being heard.
"You set a good example for the youngins, or you set no example ever again."
Please tell me that “I’m throwing ____ at you” is a reoccurring Wambu joke now
Fun fact, Pac-Land has a bunch of power ups! And they’re all lame!
You can push various randomly-chosen obstacles to get a Mushroom item, but pushing takes so long in a cramped auto-scrolling stage that you’re basically leaving yourself wide open to an attack or getting left offscreen.
The fairy at the end gives Magic Boots, giving the person who picks it up… basically the same effect as the Bunny Hood. On a cramped auto-scrolling stage. Very useful, as you can see.
Right as the return trip starts, a large cacti can spawn a Super Pac item, which gives temporary invincibility, which actually is useful in a cramped auto-scrolling stage, but annoying for anyone who doesn’t pick it up. Plus, it’s right at the start of the rolling logs section, where it’s easiest to fall into a pit, which can make the invincibility a waste.
And lastly, you can pick up a balloon occasionally in the town to recover… one percent. Just one. On a cramped auto-scrolling stage where it’s easy to get hit for way more than one percent.
The AUDACITY to not only make a crappy stage, to not only let that crappy stage be one of the very few stages to get power ups, but to ALSO make the power ups crappy too!
@@droppedcalls. The good news is that Pac-man can survive this stage easily because he's good at both platforming and Zoning.
18:46 nice emperor's new groove reference
75m is so frustrating that it's the big thing keeping me from beating the Donkey Kong & Pauline Spirit in Smash Ultimate.
Either cheese that spirit with one that starts you with a staff, or just run away from the AI, and just chase peach off the stage instead of trying to fight her
@@xolotltolox7626 I have a theory that some stages are easier to be enjoyed by the characters of the same franchise. So maybe the DK reps can play on 75 m well, but for everyone else it's more difficult???
Emperor's New Groove reference at the number 4 intro I can tell...
Nice.
- Someone who never watched it
Seeing as 75m is all but guaranteed. I’d like to say that they should’ve made 100m into a stage instead.
Its objective of getting rid of the bolts so the girders collapse would’ve been much more fun.
In regard to the Great Cave Offensive. Sakurai should’ve done a stage based off of Return to Dreamland instead. Like the Lor Starcutter could’ve worked. Traveling through Popstar.
Also for Flat Zone X. I wanna bring up how Smash seems to neglect having any remixes from the Game and Watch Gallery Series which I think is disappointing.
Also they should do a stage solely based off Manhole
24:05 I’d rather they have done a stage based off the then new Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures. Like have that version’s Pac-Man and his pals in the background cheering on the Pac-Man we play as in the background.
Hell a stage based off of Pac-Man 2: The New Adventures would’ve been better. That’s how bad Pac Land is.
1. I agree with that one, at least that would be better and more fun than 75m. 2. Also agree, had a stage based on Cookie County/Another Dimension (based on what cjszero01 had on his list of 5 stages and bosses he would've like to see in Smash 4 with Swedish Kuriboh) in my own version of the game and changed the Kirby Super Star Masterpiece to start in the Spring Breeze game within a game (due to not having Game Boy games and the original Kirby's Dream Land in general). Though Disagree with the last one, I rather them have PAC-MAZE in both versions of Smash 4 instead of a stage based on that particular sub series that Sakurai basically banned from Smash because he wanted the classic version of Pac-Man in particular and if the people who worked with him didn't choose that design for Pac-Man and went with Ghosty Adventure Pac-Man instead he (Sakurai) would consider dropping him all together.
they should've done a pac-man world stage instead, either from the beach area of 1 or the woods area of 2
@@davidthecommenter It's confirmed by Shigeru Miyamoto himself that Pac-Land had an influence on Super Mario Bros. So that could be the reason?
@@orangeslash1667 likely, but as is said in the video the stage is dog ass, i think either having the corshairs as a stage hazard or the b-doings as a gimmick would've worked better than PAC-LAND of all things
@@davidthecommenter I think the reason Sakurai puts so many Hazards on certain stages, is because if it's a platformer series like Pac-man, Kirby, and Donkey Kong. The Hazards serve as a way to test the player ability to platform well, because sometimes if the stage is very dangerous, it's best to focus on surviving rather than fighting. There is a reason the stages for Castlevania, Bayonetta, and Metal Gear don't have hazards is because combat is an important part of those franchise. Not so much for Pac-man and DK.
The good news is that Pac-man has the stage advantage (of curse), because he can choose at any time to ether zone you out or platform. Everyone else is at a disadvantage.
I wonder if Sakurai is a masochist, it's confirmed that he loves Cuphead???
Fun fact about Skyworld: the CPUs will always, *ALWAYS* prioritize reaching the bottom floating platform over recovering to the main ones. Meaning they self-destruct _way_ more than usual.
Also, Pac-Land and Mario Bros. are cool. It's like you're actually in the game. Pac-Land even incorporates actual elements from the arcade game. They actually have things to do, even Flat Zone X. If you want a bad retro stage, Balloon fight sucks. It's design is weird and worst of all, it's _boring._ The worst thing a stage can be. Same thing with Mushroom Kingdom 2.
(And yes, I actually like 75M.)
One good thing about the ultimate chimera is that it's faithful to it's original appearance since it can't be battled in mother 3 as it will insta-kill you as soon as you walk into it, no matter how strong your team is
And one other thing about 75 meters that makes it worse... In smash ultimate there's two legend class spirits on it...
And they're _both_ agonizingly brutal to beat
Dishonorable Mention: Pyrosphere, my problems with this stage can be summed up in one question, Why did it take for them until Ultimate to give us the Ability to turn off Stage Hazards?!
Prospered would be pretty good without hazards. Unfortunately it doesn't even appear in SSBU.
Love how pokemon and digimon work together here when lot of people fight over which is better
I will forever love Hanenbow for how much of a weird pick it is in general. I have no idea if it's on the list, but it's a common pick for this topic so whatevs.
Honestly, I would watch Wambu Meditate under a Waterfall as he gorges on his Grilled Cheese. Sounds like peak entertainment.
Great video that I can’t wait to watch again and again later.
I’m totally surprised that PokéFloats wasn’t anywhere on the list given how many people I’ve seen absolutely hate that stage.
And it's funny because I have yet to see Poke Floats pop up on a single one of these Worst Smash Stages lists, and I've got a file with the entries for almost _two dozen_ of them
Oh I love seeing both of you! You two are really underrated!
What made me hate 75m so much in Ultimate was due to the Pauline Spirit fight. I failed 7 times even with the best spirits I have equipped for my main.
Seeing number one gave me some inner PTSD not because of playing it in Smash, but because it's required to play in a certain N64 game. Hate it on that principle alone.
I have never been happier to see a number one on a countdown list.
22:41 ima blow both of your minds: that ain't water. That there is SOUNDWAVES! it's kinda hilarious tbh xD
Great list overall, and it’s always great to see the Wamboi, but 14:57 makes me sad since the Joe’s Crab Shack closest to me recently closed down. Had quite a few birthdays there, and now it’s gone.
When the Great Cave Offensive is only number 9, I'm interested, but a bit scared.
Wambu is one of maybe 2-3 creators i can think of that makes swearing endearing. Also thanks, gentlemen. Needed this.
After thinking about it, I realized that most of the stages based on the style of a retro game that I actually like (for example, 64's Mushroom Kingdom, Melee's Mushroom Kingdom II, and ofc Pac-Maze) are the ones that actually take liberties with the layout to make it a better stage rather than going for full accuracy with it. Another example that didn't make the list is Mushroomy Kingdom; 1-1 already isn't the best stage, but I think 1-2 in particular is really terrible and in large part because they were going with accuracy: having that line of bricks at the top of the stage means you respawn really close to the upper blast zone, and also make it hard to launch people upwards when you're in the main part of the stage.
This collab was inevitable, and VERY welcome.
Honestly, you two are such amazing content creators and I’m so excited for this! Keep up the good lord’s work guys! I’ll play a game on (insert #1 pick here) in your honour
Nice love this crossover. Love both of you guys countdown videos
The dynamic duo I've been waiting for!!
I love your rapport between each other. I'd love to see more collabs between you two!
My big issue with skyworld is that it feels really cramped and a lot of the match devolves into bouncing around like you're playing on that one small part of hyrule temple
I like the stage, but I will admit it’s a mess. I used that stage when going for the “With a 300% handicap, beat a level 5 CPU with 2 or more points” challenge, as I knew that the bouncing would likely keep me safe from falling off stage. This plan worked (I think I had hazards off, don’t remember)
@@angel-of-light-kelly1355 It's not so much of a problem if your playing as Pit, because he can somewhat fly, but it is a problem for everyone else.
the intro is the funniest thing i've seen today. peak comedy, genuinely.
15:30
Wambu don't you dare, don't you dare throw another crab 🦀 at ChaosKey
great video chaos alsways great to see wambu too, also i heard that filthy tien line:)
I don't know either of the presenters in the video but four minutes in and your chemistry has me in stitches. Off to check out the rest of both your work now, thanks for this one!
Man, fanfickle jumpscare in the intro with the laptop, there hasn’t been an upload to the channel called fanfickle in 10 months bro and both people in this video are in fact, part of it
It was a lot of fun seeing 2 content creators I've always really enjoyed growing up(ChaosKey4013 and Wambu) work together and make a list video that seemed quite ambitious. Even though a lot of the stages on their list were from Brawl and Smash 4, this video was still worth the watch for me. Seeing stages like Pac-Land and 75m on this list is obviously no surprise to anyone even remotely familiar with the Super Smash Bros games.
Both ChaosKey4013 AND Wambu did an amazing job of putting together a 30+ minute long video on some of the worst stages in all of Super Smash Bros, seriously though, ChaosKey4013 and Wambu work about as well together as Sonic and Tails. Like this is seriously some amazing chemistry between these two.
Overall, this was an amazing video created by two of some of the most amazing and enjoyable content creators on youtube. Seeing more lesser known channels make significantly better videos than a 100% working content farm with over a million subscribers(such as LankyBox) today really puts a huge smile on my face. Finding a video like this on my recommended feed is like digging through a cesspool filled with green ogre poop, only to suddenly wake in a dark room with a golden copy of the best possible version of Sonic CD.
Seriously though, this video is absolutely fucking amazing. When watching the video for yourself, you can TELL that there was a lot of work, heart, and soul put into a video that will probably never turn up on UA-cam's trending page. Ten(maybe even more) out of ten.
Two top countdown youtubers talking about Smash stages. Fucking classic let’s gooooooo!
Well, looks why we know why wambu was gone...again
Untrue. Chaoskey did most of the editing n stuff on this so this didn't actually take up much of MY time. There's a different project in the works keeping me busy!
@@Wambu Ah, well thanks for context
18:46-18:53 OMG THEY REFERENCED THE EMPEROR'S NEW GROOVE😂🤣
"I'm throwin crabs at ya" feels like the spiritual successor to "IM THROWIN SNOWBALLS ATCHA"
Finally got that list crossover!
Any video with Wambu in it is a good video.
18:38 “What do you expect me to do, meditate under a waterfall while I gorge on my grilled cheese?”
Best line I’ve heard in a while
Good to see you again Wambu
2:21 You better be setting a good example for the young’uns :3
That threat about bleeping swears was awesome.
Hes throwin Sn- Crabs at ya!
Thank you for saving me from boredom
Great video!
My only gripe is that Orvital Gate Assault wasnt mentioned in any way, and I welcome any and all arguments
I simply won't agree with any of them
HOLY SHIT I NEVER THOUGHT THE DAY OF THIS COLLAB WOULD BE THE DAY, BUT IT IS
Gotta say, nice "Emperor's New Groove" refence you guys did there for #4.
Putting N on Hanenbow made me laugh way too much.
ChaosKey and Wambu is a dangerous
...
Please make more videos together
*"UGANDAN KNUCKLES."*
So you mean to tell us, you LIKE Poke Floats?
ChaosKey AND Wambu! oh happy day😁
Also smart move for the chandelure to throw clawfs for the crab gag
I love how Wambu starts throwing Klawf!
13:20 I'm throwing snowballs at you
They really should have given us Melee Mute City. Got any more of that sauce?
I will defend New Pork by saying it is incredibly well designed in terms of lore execution in terms of Mother 3
It is incredibly accurate to New Pork City itself which was designed by a child who was spiteful and wanted to make something only he would enjoy which it executes and embodies perfectly so I don’t think it’s lazy
You should be a voice actor like seriously your voice range is amazing, you sound amazing
75m is by and large the Biggest mistake as far as Smash stages are concerned. The fact that it somehow got even worse in Entries after it's debut makes me wonder why they keep bringing it back!
Not a programmer, but I think the reason might be because of time constraints. Maybe during the development stage of SSBU, they thought about doing more iconic stages for the main franchises and then focus on more simple stage to program and model. While not having Jungle Hijinks is a huge letdown, I think the team didn't put it because they didn't have the time to implement the stage correctly. I can image this stage being hard to implant some character gimmicks like inkling's ink or especially Steve's blocks.
I'm not excusing them, they could have made a stage DLC after the fighter one and added Jungle Hijinks then. But, making a video game is hard and time consuming so sometimes you have to make a choice.
...It was a shity choice but a choice nonetheless
But as a Smash stage….. yeah no there is no defending this one. On 75M, the other players are just a distraction from the MAIN OPPONENT…. The stage itself.
@leohernandez8751 You're right. Don't know if you were talking about me or the other guys, but I've never said that 75m is a good stage. Quite frankly, I agree that it is the worst stage in the series, and I didn't play SSB that much. Hopefully, they'll see the backlash this stage is getting, and they won't put it in the next one...
...Or Sakura doesn't care and wants to drink our salty tears
@@xeldrine66 Nah no worries fam, it wasn’t directed at you. It was just my frustration of 75M being carried over for 3 games at this point. Sorry if it came off as hostile man. I agree that hopefully 75M gets cut or replaced with 25 or even 100M in a future smash game.
@@xeldrine66 Another reason is because the Donkey Kong series is known for it's brutal difficulty, so Sakurai felt that DK and Diddy needed a really hard stage. Especially when we already have a comfortable DK stage with Kongo Jungle.
Sakurai made a video called risk and reward, explaining how it's used in a lot of games. 75m truly feels like high risk, high reward to the the absolute extreme.
Great Cave Offensive, 75m, and Pac-Land just make me so sad.
-Before Great Cave Offensive, I feel like there were no bad Kirby stages. Okay yeah Dream Land and Green Greens are kinda the same, but they have their differences which I can appreciate. Fountain of Dreams is just gorgous, and The Halberd is just an absolute thrill to fight on. I think if GCO had been a transforming stage, like some of the Fire Emblem ones, changing the entire stage to different parts of the cave, it would've worked so much better. You'd get to show off EVERYTHING and not make it so big and cluttered. Or like, let us fight on the Lor in space or something. I'll take that too. Heck, Galacta Knight could even be a stage hazard! I just want another good Kirby stage.....
-I did genuinely have my fun with 75m back in the brawl days. But the moment I saw that they changed the right side from perfectly sized platforms to basically an inch on my screen, I knew it was just over for that stage.
-I do kinda have a soft spot for Pac-Land, only really cause the main music track for it (and it's galaga remix) slaps, but also cause it introduced me to the fact that there was so much more PacMan games out there than I knew about. The stage still absolutely sucks though.
I think Pac man has the stage advantage with Pan Land, but for everyone else it's a disadvantage???
Honesty, Pac Land would be a little better if they redesigned and slowed down the scrolling.
@@Teckbreak246 I think Sakurai made Pac land very hard on purpose to test players ability to platform well.
Here's a tip if the stage starts to get over whelming, focus on surviving rather than fighting.
First time watching the channel and I'm subscribed already. Also, SHOUTMON!?
Digimon and Pokemon UA-camrs together. Even Better!
nice videos i enjoy you're videos
26:56 why do they call it a living room
i am fighting for my life in here
If they wanted a stage based off the original Donkey Kong, they should have gone with 25m. You know, the simplistic first level that is usually the one the is used for pop culture references.
Remember, kids, You can swear as long as you can create a high pitched sine wave noise to replace the vowel sounds.
"Nice introduction, I should get one of those" Then get one
I’ll admit it, I’m only here because new Wambu content is rare
23:10 This is excellent Hanenbow green screen usage right here
8:42 Is that a new expression I see? 👀
Also, feels great to have you back, Chaoskey!
I will never forgive Ultimate for excluding the objectively better all gray Dreamland GB over the gross yellow-green variant
I said “bring it on” perfectly timed at 18:51
I have scarred flashbacks of Rumble Falls and 75m for reasons everyone knows.
13:20 HUNGRYBOX REFRENCE!?!?
I love how out of the 10 worst stages on your list 6.5/10 (I say 6.5 because of Flat Zone X) originated from Brawl just goes to show how Brawl really didn’t focus on the competitive aspect of game design
honestly I was surprised at 75m being the worst stage, but that's on me for not actually getting what the list is about, cause I have a lot more fun on 75m than pac land, but I do agree it's even harder to play on 75m. it's just, so absolutely awful that in some twist of fate it turns around into being enjoyable in the sense of giving up. sakurai takes the wheels, it's out of your hand, witness the brutality in front of you.
p.s. good list I had so many laughs
The greatest crossover since Endgame
13:19
I'm throwin' Crabs at you
I knew it
31:34 Silly Wambu, you're already a ghost!
This is the third video in like a week where I've written a comment in the middle of watching, trying to justify the reason for something, only to immediately afterwards get hit by an editor's note spelling out my exact point
23 years of jumping Barrels
“23 F*CKING YEARS!”
@@tessmcgrath1443A man of culture I see
I'm actually a woman but yeah.@@TheDimensionalArtist
I completely forgot about this channel.
8:36 HOLY SHIT, DBZA REFERENCE
No mention about Rumble Falls being from Donkey Kong Jungle Beat....? 😑 If you say so.
Im actually a fan of many of these stages, but im also a self proclaimed garbage connoisseur.
I love a stage with gull, the tenacity, the sheer audacious Chutzpah to be utterly unplayable garbage.
I enjoy picking great cave offensive as a decently speedy character and just timing people out.
I love seeing people scramble in the vain attept to fight.
Its glorious.
Unless it's Ultimate online and idling, having fun with other players, or running away can cause a temporary ban.
Our boy Wambu! I’ve not seen much from him in a spell.
So, as I said I would, I'm putting down the results of my research into the various worst Smash stages lists. To reiterate the criteria: I've watched a bunch of Worst Smash Stages countdowns and put down the entries from said countdowns, as long as they have at least ten entries. Then from there, I ordered the stages first based on the number of times the stage was in a countdown (even if it's just an HM/DM), then by the mean average placement overall. In the cases of HMs/DMs, they are all considered a tie for the next spot (11th with a top 10, 16th with a top 15, etc.), unless there's a "honorary number 11" situation, in which case that is 11th and the rest are 12th.
Aside from this countdown, I have also put in the data for the lists from Rabbidluigi, Nathaniel Bandy, JWittz, Akinola Verissimo/Blakinola, DPX Solo, Richie Reviews, TheSmithPlays, JimmyJunks, Flyingboy w/ Ninjablue27, SuperSonicJB, ViralRak, Dippydurian, Enigma, SpongicX, Brantendo Studios, AngelPortugal, Expand Dong, Odyssey Central, Mr Meme Lewis, TIP YT, Kaden8tor Gaming, and Random Vids. (Note that some of these lists are specifically only of stages in Ultimate, or are so old that Ultimate wasn't even out yet.)
So with all of that out of the way, here are the current rankings, with a minimum of three appearances per stage:
25: Venom (3; 10.667)
24: Orbital Gate Assault (3; 9)
23: Kalos Pokemon League (3; 7.333)
22: Distant Planet (3; 6.333)
21: Spirit Train (3; 5.667)
20: Frigate Orpheon (3; 3.4)
19: Big Blue (4; 6.5)
18: Balloon Fight (4; 6.25)
17: Flat Zone X (4; 5.75)
16: Jungle Japes (5; 9)
15: a tie- Dream Land GB and Brinstar Depths (5; 7.6)
14: Icicle Mountain (6; 5.333)
13: Rumble Falls (6; 3.833)
12: Gaur Plain (7; 8.571)
11: Mushroomy Kingdom 1-1 (7; 7.857)
10: Rainbow Cruise (7; 7)
9: Wily Castle (7; 6.571)
8: Norfair (12; 7.25)
7: Palutena's Temple (13; 6)
6: Hanenbow (16; 4.5)
5: New Pork City (17; 7.235)
4: PAC-LAND (17; 4)
3: Mario Bros. (18; 4.889)
2: The Great Cave Offensive (19; 3.632)
1: 75m (21; 2.571)
Looks like the only two from this video's list not to be on your grand list are SNES Mute City and Skyworld
@@shanegiorgio4713 Most stages mentioned in the video (honorable mentions included) fell into one of two camps: those that already had at least three votes to begin with, and those that got a second vote because of this video. The only completely new entry was Minecraft World. Truth be told, there are a little over 30 other stages that only had one or two appearances on these lists.