If you love horses watch this!! The outlaw horse in pain
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Shadow with pain and being disrespectful and than after being fix started acting normal behavior. while watch pay attention to his pain problem in beginning of clip and watch how he changes after pain is gone. it is easier to train a pain free horse.
When you are in pain, nothing is right, nothing. When you are an animal and cannot tell someone that you hurt and where you hurt, it must feel like an impossible situation. Mr. Crothers, because of his expertise and his great ability to observe, is a lifesaver to horses.
As someone who has suffered from chronic back pain for over 40 years, I can tell you it is very difficult to function at times and I can communicate my discomfort. I can only imagine the horrible life it must be to live when expectations exceed your ability to achieve regards how simple they may seem to someone who can not relate.
Horses can definitely act out because of pain, mine was labelled "dangerous" and unridable; I even had farrier, trainers, etc. telling me to put him down. A major problem was he had unusually high withers and a "steepled" back rather than a flattish or round one. He fought the saddle as soon as you tried to put it on. I found an old McLellan-type saddle for him that worked wonders; it didn't touch the center of the horse's back but rests on either side of the backbone, ( it must fit the individual horse). Always worth trying to figure out if the horse is comfortable.
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Like people, 'one size fits all' doesn't work for everybody.
look for Australian saddles they fit high wither & thinner horses than the american saddle designed for quarter horses
the ulcer probably will go away once all the pain's gone, if he got the ulcer from worrying about the pain, very sad story with a happy ending👌
Horses don't have cognitive abilities to plan or worry. His problems are as Ed said are diet related.
@catzndolz Humans are the only animals with cognitive thought abilities. Animals react to stimuli, they don't think.
312 dislikes because what?! Because the dislike button is there? He wasn't abusing this horse, he probably saved him from being destroyed
Because the horse is not the problem in this video, the big guy and his kid are......slippery footing, jerking and yanking, etc. This horse is well trained...with the long back there is no doubt there will be pain...but this dick is not a chiropractor, nor does he know anatomy of horses...this is ridiculous. I wonder how much after this bs this horse was sent to slaughter?
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Never fear, idiots are every where!!
CatArea the dislikes were probably because of the sound the area he was on made an echo when he spoke so that it was hard to understand what he was talking about. About half way threw it got a bit clearer.
@@bungodancereadie8018 It's obvious that you don't understand body language, have ANY understanding of chiropractology, or horsemanship.
Yes, he was handsy, but that comes from knowing that the horse isn't an idiot and understands what you're asking him to do.
Have you ever had nerve pain? Because if you ever had a vertebra out of alignment, you would understand the body language, the movements to reset the alignment, and the obvious relief.
Horses don't "slip" in a lunge in sawdust at a trot unless there is a severe physical issue...or there's ice. I didn't see any snow in the barn....anyone else see that horribly "slippery" spot of ice?
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Honestly. How do you watch the horses behavior change so drastically after getting worked on and think it's the handler?
Oh...You don't handle horses.
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Watch Warwick Schiller here on YT then you will see why what we are shown is not the best way to get the result.
Sad I didn't find this sooner. First western trainer I've seen ever address this issue, this way - kudos! Tired of watching 'problem' horses run ragged in the round pen. (Monty Hall, et all...)
I was lucky enough to witness this type of 'pain vs behavior' treatment in the UK in the mid 1980s. Came back to US a few years later and had to really search it out as no one had heard of this approach. Unfortunately, it's still few and far between among anything other than almost Olympic calibre training facilities, and still mostly in Europe and by European trainers/riders.
Pain should be taken into consideration whenever horses act out.
Where have you been hiding? Equine need people like you. The horse is horse. We are human. You are good! You saw it!!
This is a kind gentle man you can tell he respects the horse we need more people like him I tip the hat to you sir with all do respect
Lickin his lips like the good ol boy that he is. He looks very smart he does listen just in pain! Wow when he dropped his head after that first adjustment was amazing!!!
His trot! Wow!
Great Video. To all those nay-sayers....I've had a bad back on/off for the last 20 years, and I felt just like the horse! When the physical therapist would push his thumb in the right place (the sore spot) I'd feel like he had just stabbed me with a knife and my whole body would just about jump off the table. In the video, he's using a piece of wood to find the sore spots, probably because a horses hide is much thicker than human skin, so he needs more pressure to find them. I give this guy tons of credit. Chiropractic adjustment can be very uncomfortable, the relief comes later. But you can't tell a horse that, the horse has to learn to trust that he'll live through this, and the relief will come later. Great job guy!!!
Celeste Giraitis thanks for the kind words
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Horse's skin is not thicker than ours, but I am sure that using the dowel does have some advantage; perhaps it enables him to better isolate the exact spot, or exact vertabra?
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Not to disappoint you but horse skin (hide) is way thicker than that of humans. Which is why centuries ago people of many nations including ours had to use skins aka hides for their clothing and as material for the structures they lived in. Tepees etc, using buffalo, their horses when they died etc. The people of old did NOT live in structures made of super thin skin/hides like Bubba's butt. Sorry, you could have used Charmin or Viva & made better sense.
It wasn't discussed in the video, but I noticed that this horse carried its tail up and out, stiffly. After treatments, the tail was carried normally, hanging straight down softly. I have observed this many times in a horse in spinal pain. If the tail isn't right, seems the spine isn't right. Once everything is softly in alignment, the tail hangs properly. So if you think your horse has pain, check the tail.
Softly?
I saw the tail issue as well. That is the first indication that something is not quite right on his top line.
I watched this video in fascination. I am not at all experienced with horse behaviour, and the knowledgable reader may well laugh at my thoughts; but I think if this were just a mean or malicious horse, then he'd be fighting hard against this man. But with all the pain this animal is experiencing, he's really being very sweet. He comes right back to the trainer/chiropractor after each incident. If I were having such pain and someone was deliberately hurting those sore spots, I'd be cranky and maybe even bite back ;-) . But this horse doesn't do any of that, just attempts to get away from the pain. And yes, he has understandibly learned poor manners through all of that. I'm so pleased that this dear horse finally found someone who was able to correctly diagnose the real problem. It touched my heart to see the care this man had for this horse, and the horses' response. And kudos to the owner for not giving up on this lovely animal!
in my opinion no animal is just mean or malicious, those are human traits, pain or fear is the reason any animal lashes out..
beautiful reply and intelligent as well.
Is there a follow up video? If not could you give an update?
Horse killed him
this man is an equine chiropractor not an effing trainer and he helped this animal and any real horse lover/caregiver can tell he knows exactly what he's doing . so mr crothers thanks for trying to educate people who really care about their horses .
Carole Elliott amen well said ,this is one heck of a good horse ,ur average horse ppl are always scared of horses like this
Thank you Carole!
Carole Elliott, he certainly is not an equine chiropractor, nor any other kind of chiropractor.....good grief!
Let the horse be the judge lady, not you. After the fellow tapped it near the rear the horse's body language showed immediate relief. The horse stands totally relaxed next to the man at the end, not fearful or angry. Whatever the guy's title is, the horse seemed to trust him.
To all the people who think this man is a lousy trainer and that the horse is scared... please read this before complaining:
Did you even watch the video and listen to his commentary? He's a chiropractor, not a trainer. Do you expect your doctor to treat you the same as your boss or friend? He's simply showing how to spot pain in a horse rather than chalking it up as bad behavior, finding out where the horse hurts, then addressing the out of place joints by popping them back into alignment. You can sometimes hear the popping if you listen carefully. By the third pop, you can see the horse start to realize it's helping. They still edge away since the popping is still new and intense, but eventually they tolerate it. Then at the end, you can see their smoother gait and more relaxed posture.
If you care about horses, then you should be overjoyed to see a medical professional educate everyone that "problem" horses may just be in pain, and showing how fixing those issues can be quick and simple... then resulting in the horse feeling better. :)
vorpalalice82 no I'm the owner and this horse has been unpredictable and dangerous since I brought him home. This very reason is why he went to 4 trainers. Ed was the only one to get thru to him. Shadow no longer rears or flips out like he did, at a drop of a hat, for no reason. Stay thirsty though!
Thank you ZaCloud Animations. Im just trying to show people they need to check there horses for pain befor thinking their horse just has behavioral problems!
ZaCloud Animations I could see him sticking something in his pocket when his hand went over the horse and came back and he said I just touched another spot! Watch it again and keep your eye on this hands and you can see him slipping something back in his pocket I don't know what it is but it wasn't the Sandpaper things he have on his hands. It was in his right pocket I believe. I believe he was hurting the horse was something else. I'm not denying the horse was in pain I'm just saying that I believe that he was using something else besides the sandpaper his strength.
It was a wooden dowel to check for pressure point pain. That way he could zero in on the vertebra that was actually hurting. My chiropractor uses his hands and fingers.
Thank you and bravo!! I can ony think that the people making the comments that this guy doesn't know what he is doing are not horse people,, or animal people,, it is so obvious that he helped this horse!! and I don't even OWN a horse!!! some people are too closed minded and small minded to be open to LEARNING ,, maybe it makes them feel stupid to have to admit that they don't know everything..
I've been learning about this for over 35 years. Seen it work on racehorses, endurance horses, cows, sheep and the kids ponies. It's amazing how many idiots laughed at the chiropractic treatments and healing techniques back then that have been practiced in other parts of the world for over 4,000 years. And for the same reasons Herbal Medicine is all but outlawed in America. It's all about learning to recognize the body language.
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Terry Russel. Thank you.
Difficult to understand what ur saying.
Yes the sound is very poor, such a shame since I really wanted to know what he was saying. It was not too bad at first, but now in the middle, almost impossible to understand. sad really.
Yes he sure does need to do something about the sound. Would make it a lot more enjoyable.
Sorry for the poor sound quality. I will fix that problem in my future videos.
The poor sound quality makes the video very hard to watch.
Couldn't you put subtitles on? It's really unintelligible in spots. A great pity.
Is there a follow-up video on this horse's progress? It's amazing how much better he was in just one session.
Is there a follow-up video on this horse? I would love to see the final results.
I like the way you understand and look for the underlying problems and the fact a horse has a greater issue . And not the fact they don't want to cooperate . Very educational . Thank you so much for sharing .
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Such a difference in the horses nervousness. Lovely to see improvement. Pain is life changing.
Margaret Davies And for horses, pain is fear increasing.
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I have no idea what all of that above has to do with a horse ????
The only thing that is Outlaw is the Man talking. He's a phony trainer, and his antics are bullshit
Me neither nor this video!! A horrible injustice but irrelevant - I guess he just wanted to vent?! (0.0)/
Loved watching this, but audio quality is awful.
How awesome that this man can make horses feel better. God bless you sir!
wow...a horse chiropracter.. awesome! Must share with my chiro friend.
I'm not a horse person, but I have human medical training. Right at the beginning of the video (after the tie up), you can see the horse walking gingerly and lopsidedly on its hind feet, picking one up and favoring one side. I couldn't tell if it was a tender hoof or a spinal problem at that point, but it definitely looked off.
Later in the video, when part of the neck and hip pain is relieved, you can see how good natured the animal is and not highstrung at all, letting the chiropractor tap and adjust the rest of his pain with little fuss. I'm impressed.
It's a beautiful horse..
Many off his painproblems, seems to come from the very popular rollkur training, which put exctreme pressure on these points of the horses body. I am glad the new owner was willing to give this horse a better future, finding his problems and getting them fixed.
My mare wasn't a problem horse, but she had been ridden very thight by her previous rider, so she had a lot of tension built up in her body, I did get some off just by riding on long reins and asking her to stretch as much as she could, like when trotting, she could trot as fast as she wanted to, but she wasn't allowed to switch to gallop, and that really helped. But she still had some issues/stiffness/tension, which I later found out was because she had artirithis in her back legs. (didn't remeber the legal term, but where bone grow a bridge and makes her joints less flexible) anyway, I didn't know, the previous owner didn't tell me about it and I had a guy do this, finding her hurting points and fix them, but she didn't always get better, and that was because he didn't know about the condition (since I didn't know and therefore hadn't told him) so what I am trying to say, is: Make sure to have a vet check your horse, take x-rays and stuff, so when you have someone helping you, they are aware and can do things differently.
Again beautiful horse.
Thank you for being a SMART, KIND chiropractor. I think this horse has neck damage & nerve damage. His back legs seem like borderline neuropathy or sciatica? Poor baby, he's so nice when nothing is hurting him. My ex-racehorse had a nerve too close to the skin in girth area. Once out of every 200 saddling up - if the girth was forward/ off by 1/4 inch - he would spasm & go ballistic, stiff front legs, almost falling down, whites of his eyes, etc. I had to quickly reach in to immediately loosen the girth & then everything would return to normal. I do wonder how many times he was beaten for his spasm at the race track??
You keep touching him in very painful places and then you tell the horse to calm down and it’s okay. But you keep doing it over and over and over and over. So how is he supposed to trust you. He is being vocal and jumping up. What does he have to do? Jump and land on someone. You should have called a horse chiropractor. Yes, their are horse chiropractors. Also an acupuncturist.
People don't realize when our skeleton gets out of alignment pressure is put on nerves. Get alignment corrected off nerves and muscles and much relief from pain. So glad this man is doing this work for horses. Horse chiropractor. Awesome.
He's such a beautiful horse and appears to be young, highly intelligent and fit. How is it he is in so much chronic pain?
What an amazing change! More folks need to recognize that pain in most cases is the issue.
A horse chiropractor?!! Don't think I've ever seen one before.. This is pretty cool..
I wish more people would look at pain for equine behavioral issues. I can’t imagine how miserable this sweet horse has felt. It floored me when he showed immediate pain relief by licking his lips after the first adjustment at the poll. Big thumbs up for this video. BUT I wondered how a horse that won’t take a saddle has muscle development in his rear end and canter muscles over his croup. Then I’m pretty sure I heard him say they lunge him for a ‘couple of hours’!!! Running in small circles for more than a few minutes can cause anatomical problems in the most sound horses (or any person/animal). Especially one that doesn’t have self carriage. I hope I misunderstood him. He seems like he is a great gift to horses. But if they really are lunging him for ‘a couple hours’, he’s lucky to be as sound as he is.
a remote mike would be good
Very good video, here are my suggestions for this lovely gelding: Include in the daily diet Manuka Honey UMF 30+ for the ulcer 1Tbs daily, as well as yoghurt added to diet. endless supply of hay to feed the hind gut, Homeopathic Rhus Tox 30c for body pains. Session should have been finished off with 'Tellington T Touch' to reset nervous system and stop muscle memory.
I loved seeing him lick his lips after adjusting. He knew you were helping him.
Trying to understand but the sound is hard to understand with the echo in that barn. This man is like a horse chiropractor ? Amazing.
There is no such thing as a "Problem horse" just problem people.
Yes there is.
Danica Prins Bullshit
There is, if you know anything about horses or any animal you would know this "bullshit". Congrats man your an idiot.
Kate the toilet No you're the idiot. A horse is a reflection of its owner. Whenever there's a "problem" with the horse, it's ALWAYS the owners fault because they set the horse up to fail. You would know that if you knew a damn thing about horse behavior. But you know... you can't argue with stupid.
Kelly nell a horse was beaten in the past, and now has a new owner. The owner tries to pet him en he attack's out of fear. Is this an reflection of the new owner ? ( Sorry for the not so great English) ps: i'm not trying to attack you, it's just a simple question ☺️
A Chiropractor for horses... very cool ! 👍🏼 🐎❤️
Love this. Incredible to see how in-tune you are to horses, and understanding their pain. Fantastic!
Thank you sir for this very informative video. I have had horses for many years and I have seen almost everything. I am so glad you could help this poor horse. I know there are horse chiropractors like you . There are not enough of people like you to go around to treat the many horses who need pain relief. Keep up the great work and thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. God Bless
Wow, that’s the most amazing thing I have ever seen! This man is incredible with his knowledge of horses and techniques to help it. Just amazing.
I liked watching you work with this horse. It was interesting and informative. I want to see the two of you in a few more get togethers and when you are riding him.
Ed Crothers Is this horse a Tennessee Walker? I ask because I've known several dark bay Walkers like this horse that went through "big lick" show "training" that's typically abusive both physically and psychologically. I think they come from the same small group of so called trainers and from similar blood lines.
The horses not only have anxiety but seem to have full on panic attacks. They seem well trained but it's out of fear not trust and mutual communication.
Just a hunch I've picked up on in the last few decades with a certain line of horses from the same general area. I think this group of horses suffer mentally as well as physically from being beaten with 2x4s and doing exagerated gates under saddle, like the "big lick".
In my experience they benefit greatly from letting them heal mentally by helping them relax, trust, taking some demand and pressure off and just letting them be horses for a bit while you're helping them relax and trust and healing them physically.
You do good work by thinking outside of the box and trying to understand horses better.
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WhenTheWindigoComes - the Big Lick style training is mechanical, hoof length, heavy shoes, chains on ankles, plus chemical irritation to create conditioned foot snapping response. They literally take a pacer and square their gait into a hyperextendended running walk. I have fought against "training" practice this for 40+ years. The pain points are similar to the racing standardbred
thanks for sharing this is great! Nice to see someone who takes extra time to look and listen, in doing so found out there's more than meets the eye initially I was so pleased to see you had made such a difference in the wonderful animals life in just a short video's time. God Bless you for taking the time to help these wonderful creatures, (Horse) is my favorite animal.
Thank you for the kind word Dar! I have been dojng clinics for the last 10 years trying to show and teach people that 90% of disrespect is caused from pain.
Dar Are you kidding?!?! NOTHING WAS FIXED!
This is really interesting. So glad you posted it!
I’ve never seen a horse get adjusted like that! It’s certainly opened my eyes. What a lucky horse to have found you to fix it’s problems.
I’ve never known another trainer to even bring up pain as an issue with a “problem” horse.
Absolutely, Mr. Crothers! Thank you for your contribution to the Equine world! Having owned, raised and trained my Anglo Arabian from a colt, there is more than meets the eye on a horse's behavior as it relates to their well-being. Animals cannot TELL us - but they can Show us~ Their recovery in health and training depends upon the human's knowledge, sensitivity and patience, powers of observance... and experience as to their success in becoming or returning to a well dispositioned and collected animal. Suffering is not allowed in my book!! So wonderful, what you are doing and have accomplished, ~ Thank You!!
I read once that horses can hide pain really well, so its very important to know stuff like this.
Very interesting, I did notice in the beginning of the video the horse was favoring his back right leg , and what you said about horses acting out due to pain I don't disagree, not sure exactly what you were doing to him but he does seem way better .
It's good to know stuff like this however I doubt I'll ever own a horse , though they are my favorite animal
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I thought he was favouring his back right leg too.
If you do end up owning a horse it’s gonna blow your mind how much you’ll end up learning things you never thought about before and it’s actually pretty rewarding and for the most part they are hardy as hell
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Dragon Heart Having been to a chiropractor myself, that's what it looked like to me. Horse Chiropractor. I'm surprised how quickly the horse realizes that feels better. Usually takes me a few minutes after each pop or adjustment.
Tired of hearing the term disrespectful.. and of course a horse is going to act different when not in pain.
GSDmom B I agree with you. People act as if putting chains, straps, metal through the mouth, tightly tying things around the chest and forcing a being into a life of servitude isn't "disrespectful".
Most humans are the problem, they aren't even aware of what they are doing much less capable of acknowledging it and correcting their own selfish abusive behavior.
He is a beautiful animal... I am happy that he found the release from the pain that he needed. More people need to understand that horses cannot tell you that they hurt. its up to the owners to find out why they are doing certain behaviors. my very first thing that I do when I get a horse in, or buy a horse is to go over the basics on the ground and check for any pain signs... if you do not pay attention to this, there is no sense in trying to train the horse, as you can do more damage and cause bad "learned" behaviors that can be difficult to fix.
Don't buy it, all I see is a man irritating a horse that is trying to understand what in the world he wants. Didn't prove pain to me and the only disrespect I see is by the man.
Every horse can be trained and if a horse can't be trained then I would say the horse is in pain. I agree with this guy. IF people can take wild horses from the wild and train them then people can train any horse unless that horse is in pain. So sad.
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MOST horses, not all. Even Monty had a few horses that had to be permanently kept out of direct contact with humans.
I loved the gentle handling and to see a true love for the horse. First time I have seen chiropractic treatment on a horse. Thank you for sharing this video. It was absolutely amazing!!
Awesome! Sharing this one far and wide! Luv the "lick n chew" and look of relief when he realizes the pain is gone after the first few adjustments! Luv Luv Luv this
Very interesting... Just wish you had better acoustics in the barn. And, I'd like to see a close-up of the piece of wood that you are using.
You, Sir are a wonderful, kind man. I'm sure the horses that you work with on a regular basis see you and think "that guy is magic" and "I'm gonna feel much better now that my savior is here". It takes a true animal lover to listen to the horses the way you do. God Bless you for your work. I think there should be more people like you in the world. Cheers!
Poor little guy! How do these things happen? Did they take a tumble when they were foals or something? TY for helping them. Good man!
Don’t like the barn!!! Creepy!!! PROBLEM HORSE? Don’t like the adjective!!!!!
My brother had a ranch horse that was great at his job but had to buck his heart out every time he started the day. My brother being a great rider just rode it out then did his days work. After we found out about animal chiropractic we have had that horse worked on two times per year spring and fall. He spent last summer at a kids camp being ridden by 10year old kids he’s completely different now then before we know some of this stuff. All our horses get one treatment per year just the problem horse gets two treatments.
I can already tell from the moment the video starts, he knows nothing about horses, lol. Stop using chains at least.
12:19 Now he is teaching horse to reer, what a great horse trainer, wow.
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Don't yank on the head. Comfort the horse relive the pain first healing if necessary. You got to bond first earn trust no work outs. Sounds like sn energy crisis too. Let him flow naturally. Read him better
He's too pretty. Get a vet check. He's smart. He won't take crap. It's about
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Interesting video. I'm not a horse expert, but I have worked with different horses enough to tell that whatever is done here, is doing good. Remember this horse would sooner or later be dead meat if it wasn't for Mr.Crothers. Whatever that isn't hurting will be for the better. This is obviously healing enough to relax the horse in a very short period of time.
For tose not hearing well enought, try focusing. Shut everything else out. You shouldn't need to hear every syllable to figure out what's being said. Watch a second time, perhaps. My mother tongue isn't English, still no problem getting everything (close enough).
I’m sure I’m gonna get feedback from this but I’m going to say anyway. First of all I’ve had to have two spinal cord Surgeries due to the fact that I’m a firefighter/paramedic and destroyed my neck and my lumbar area. Who do you think diagnosed both of them? A chiropractor. When I went to regular doctors they kept saying there was nothing wrong. Fast forward to both MRIs and guess what ?then all of a sudden the doctors were willing to help me. So I guess I’m a little partial to human chiropractors. But I dated a guy that was an excellent chiropractor who only worked with emergency services people so he was very into spine etc. he also was a horse chiropractor. A very well known one.He did race horses, showhorses etc. And I went with him a couple of times and let me tell you after he adjusted them they would actually nuzzle him and love on him. I understand both sides but there are legitimate and very helpful chiropractors out there. For both humans and animals.
I love your technique and delivery. I wanted so much to go into equine massage (I have helped out some large dogs and humans as a LMT) (Licensed Massage Therapist) because I love horses so much. I thank you for your service to these amazing creatures! Oh... I get to help my husband run his roofing business and I have gotten too old and have too many health problems to do your job or I totally would. Again 🙌 thanks.
9.30's. incrediatable how he backs up when you use smooth preasure and move smoothly with him as he backs up. Somewhat different to you tugging him to go forward and back soon after; I'll bet he would have made a good campdraft horse at this point and go no further.
Sorry to break this to you but I can't understand more than 10-15% of what this guy is saying. It's partly your recording equipment and also the big boomy shed but it's also the trainer, who could be doing a lot better of a job making himself easy to understand. Obviously a top notch trainer though.
A good horsemen sees ALL possibilities. How they try to speak to us...how much they try and give when they can. A good horseman knows no creature wants to participate when it HURTS. Some will until finally their mind and spirits are blown. That is no way to become a better human being asking from a horse what it cannot and should not be asked to give. Thanks for the video. It brings light on why. What happened before what happened happened. Thanks from the horse.
Very educational. I watched the whole thing because of the comments telling me what it was about. Then I was partially able to discern some of the audio. I so wish the audio was better so I could have heard all of your commentary, but it was fascinating watching you adjust the horse anyways!!! Thanks for taking away that horse's pain, and educating us all that horses have pain too, and they are just trying to tell us!!! :)!!!
I had a horse that was identical to all of the issues and pain this horse exhibits. Unfortunately, neither veterinarians, chiropractors, nutritionists did not have any consensus. Unfortunately, by the time I stopped listening to the "experts" and went by my "gut," (which was a lot or reading and research) - it was too late. We often just don't listen with our eyes wide open. The Cushings medication caused a very adverse reaction. Too bad we sometimes only learn from our mistakes. I recognized the things going on with this horse immediately as the signs were identical.
I didn't watch all of the video but Ed looks like he's trying to help the horse. I think he could do well with horses.
And then you bring another person into the small slippery footing pseudo round pen, with blaring speakers, weird lights, and a camera man. You are not showing good horsemanship at all, sorry to say. I resent this ridiculous crap being shown, and idiots believing it....sheesh, at least you are helping the horse slaughter industry. This horse is obviously trained and would be well mannered if he wasn't around you guys. Good grief, are you serious?
I love you, for being a compassionate human and enough knowledge to know all that stuff I wish everyone thought the way you did instead of being abusive and power tripping on the horse Might of got hurt from being tied up and sitting back ,flipping over backwards in the first place. my dad always tied colts to a flexible tree limb ,so if they sat back it gave a little ,when they were first learning to tie. But not many are as smart as my dad was.!!
Lots of this man's tencnique is okay, ha is taking time, he is trying to ensure the horse does not get hurt by going backwards, the only thin he is doing is clicking the horse away when it is too close to the rope, too close with head into the wall, and it is too soon for the saddle, horse is still terrified of "everything" terrified shows by it pooping constantly, it stomach is frightened. needs more time....
he has possibly hurt himself by going backwards, both at the poll and his back-bone - has someone put the rope "over his wither and inbetween his front legs for the pulling at halter problem? What a nice frightened horse hope they take more time and show him no more pain...I once purchase a throughbred off Tack, could not go near his poss for a year! till he learned to trust. does not happen FAST. questions should these adjustments not go on both sides?
My father had a polo mare who limped constantly. This went on for a year. I finally called the vet. The vet said Lowey had navicular. Veeeeeeeery painful.
Lowey had to be put down. I don't think I can ever forgive my dad for that. Just because they don't talk does not mean they don't use language. Pleeeeease take time to watch and listen to your animals!
9 minutes in, 'this horse is telling me this saddle is going to hurt'???? Where's the saddle blanket???? Like having no socks when wearing shoes! @ 9 minutes in; so far this horse has not tried to bite or kick you.. I'd say the horse has anxioty issues.
This is not a training video this is a chiropractic release video. The moves he is making are to identify where the pain is, he has to locate based on the type of movements that trigger. He says clearly enough that the owner sent this horse to MANY trainers and none could fix his issues because it was thought behavioral. He says the owner will tire this horse out for 2 hours to get it to comply finally to saddle etc. That is a clueless owner! This guy has literally just saved this horses life. This horse has been put through the ringer with neck pain, back pain and hip out of joint. Also it has an ulcer and needs different feed and medication. Anyone who actually watched and listened to this entire video could not in any way deduce this was abusive or quackery, unless you are mentally unstable and have too much of an ego to learn something. Thank GOD for compassionate people who are willing to listen and watch the body language of the animal instead of beating it into submission. All the training in the world wouldn’t have fixed what was wrong with this beautiful horse. Well done and yes the audio would be better if it was on a mike on the person and not on the camera. Bless your continued healing of animals.
I had a friend many years ago and she had a 16.1 Irish X , he was long in the body , he had a similar Gait in the hind quarters, to this Quarter Horse (although the Quarter horse is far more compact , you can clearly see how his top line is causing other pain points.) this was same for friends horse , a Veterinarian was called out to examine him and Vet diagnosed a he had a tilted pelvis, he would never move correctly, on contacting the Dealer who sold him to her, she said when he was a youngster and playing in field with others young stock, he slipped up and rolled out and up onto his hind quarters, from this one single incident that did not cause any pain or obvious symptoms , at this time his bones were still supple and growing, as he aged the tilt in his pelvis became more obvious , so his breeding and the incident meant he would be perfectly able to be used as a general riding horse and nothing more , no jumping , dressage, just hacking he never had any other Top Line Problems that stemmed from this, unlike the poor chap in the video. and being more compactly built it is inevitable he would have other alignment issues up to his poll . I do hope owner did seek veterinarian help had him scanned , bloods etc., was a very interesting Video and i have seen chiropractors work on horses backs before with some marvellous outcomes. Although i must admit i have never seen any using tools as this man did. Not saying it is wrong if he is Trained , but was interesting to see how he took this pain approach into why the horse was playing up, and not just assuming it was training issues, nice Video interesting watch , yes the Horse did look to be moving better afterwards. but i suspect it was short lived and more session of therapy were required.
No, Sir!! You cover the animals eyes,then do as you please, never let an animal get the upper hand ✋, never!! If you do it's over that horse knows who he is dealing with,a wimp!!.
This is pretty cool. Makes me wonder if my Arab/QH cross needs a chiropractor. I can saddle him with no problem, but he rares when I ask him to go right. I know mine has worked wonders on my back. I do hate seeing you pop his lead rope, I get it though.
something wrong with right back leg. he keeps picking it up and looks off when he puts down all the way to hip. You can even hear him stressed about something. Poor fella. yep that's the side I saw him favor as he brought him out. Hope they can heal him. Good man,.
Why is this guy snubbing the horse up? No release. That's why be is pulling back. This buy does not know what he is doing. He can't go around properly because the lead is to short. And if he is in pain then why is he being worked? Nothing wrong with this horses its the people. Bet he is stalled most of the time too. If the horse had his ground work done first he wouldn't act like this. Omg I hate this guy. Nothing but a wanna be.
He's leaning on the rope because you have a web halter on. When ever he jumps back or moves away you take away the pressure...so he's learning that the pressure goes away when he moves away or jumps back. They are motivated by pressure but learn from the correctly timed release of that pressure. You probably already know this, but you're not practicing it. Poor horse.
He starts to rear because he has not been taught to lower his head. He's head shy because no one worked on that with him (in small steps). He has not been taught to stay out of your personal space. Snapping the lead rope does not help to get him out of your space, because your arm length cannot change. You can back him up but not without going with him; therefore, he has not gotten out of your space. Maybe he does have pain, but I'm sorry, no one has worked on ground manners. No one has been his leader that he respects. He crowds you. He jumped around even before you touched his stomach. Cheers.
Hear that gelding "whoom, whoom, whoom" as he trots? Not all geldings do this, but when you hear that sound it will always come from a gelding. I like this trainer, but I don't care for the way he flutters his hands by the horses face. That could make a head shy horse even worse.
This man was an unprofessional jerk who is scared of horses so he beats them and says they are "problem horses" he took the lead rope and threw it at the horses causing it to trot. He did not help this horse he just made it more scared and confused. And where the hell is he a slaughter barn cause it looks like it. I'm sure that if the lady who helped me with a 2-year-old colt (who would buck in peoples faces) this horse would act like my 25 year old kind mare who my 2-year old rides.
I was totally absorbed by what you were doing and somewhat ashamed by not recognizing possible pain issues in my own good horses. He seems a pretty nice kind of horse because I couldn’t see him trying to hurt you. What might be the circumstances that would cause a horse to get jammed up like that?
These videos are disgusting and there is so much disrespect for the horses involved. I’m more saddened by the number of people who support this method. I could write a novel on all that’s wrong with this disgrace of a “trainer.”
I'm so glad he mentioned the insulin problem due to neck cresting. I didn't know that before and my sweet little paint would reach a peak when he was either excited or scared and he would literally lose his cookies! Now I know why! I just have to figure out how to treat it.
I'll be dammed ,horse chiropractics, (but of course) why didn't I think of that. Prob expenses versus utility!😕
At 16:07-16:08 what did he stick in his right pocket? I thought I noticed it before but I'm not going back over the whole thing because it's just too hard to watch. If it's nothing then why is he sneaking it into his pants almost like sleight of hand? And I know it's none of my business and the horse is much happier since he took care of him and I'm sure he is happier now that he's gone anyway still would like to know what he kept sticking this pants.
great job ,had horse like this bloke was quiet do anything till i got cowboy farrier ,as mine got hurt by another horse and was told this guy was good but first nail he drew blood and in 1 sec my horse was ruined as he flipped over ,i took him to chiro and he fixed his out of wack hips ,neck ,girth and poll but i could never get pair shoes on him ever again and he was so touchy getting feet done , this horse had so many issue poor boy tell by stiffness and head carriage and set tail so bugger of know it all that clearly know nothing this trained chiro are you trained this field mmm probably not this man is and has 30 years behind him ,you can see this sweet horse true personality slowly coming out as works with him ,so well done owner listening and acting and finding this man
how is he doing now? I wonder how he got to be in so much pain, but am really happy you got his back now, taking care of him. many horses are not that lucky
WOW 🥺 sad for this beautiful horse. It's seems like he is showing appreciation for The help he is getting from this wonderful man. God bless him.
I like what I see and I'd like to subscribe, well I will subscribe, but the acoustics are terrible. Their's a kind of echo that makes it very hard to understand what you're saying.
There is no reason to be “hammering a horse” and pulling in it for trying to get away.Your expecting a horse to stay there while being hammered.Like that would ever happen.just don’t be such a crappy trainer/barn manager
If a horse is difficult shouldn't they get a full veterinary check to assess if they have a medical issue. It must be dreadful to have people trying to put a saddle on you if you are in agony. Its heartbreaking. I can't imagine the pain he went through.
that was amazing wirk you did on Shadow ...ive akways said there arexonlyxunseen problems that really make you think the horsexis a problem horse ...or dog!!!
Interesting but can you kindly find the captions for this video, because it is really difficult to make out the audio ,which makes you miss the point of the whole thing...?!
Try starting with throwing a lead rope over his back. If he can't take that (which he probably can't), then why go right to the saddle. How about a pad? So sad.
Is this horse arabian? Hes acting like a nervous quick moving horse. I would guess hes been misunderstood. Hes probably got injured in the process of training. First you got to gain the trust of a horse with this temperment.
Where were you when two trainers told me my horse was dangerous and the last one blamed me, he said, “It’s people like you that produce s@*t like this. She went to a kill pen and someone bought her out of it. Made me sad.
What did you have poking him with then stuck it in your pocket??? 1337 very strange, maybe you were causing him pain.
Why would you tie a horse that's scared of tiying and then yank on the lead and click your toungue? Of course he will start dancing. Is it just for the video? Sorry but I don't think that that's a reason to do that.