Looks like you have a plan and a direction to move in. Hope you get the time to get started on it. We'll all be glad to see what you do. Have a great weekend.
Finally had a second to watch your update. Sounds like plans are happening for your layout. I seem to have a similar problem with speakers accumulating in my house!
I don't blame you for being concerned about weight. And then you also have to factor in the weight of the engines and rolling stock that you're running. Those articulateds aren't light! Very informative video, thanks.
Well best of luck and success on the layout expansion this weekend Dave! Myself, I'm off to a Greenberg show tomorrow. You know how it is, gotta go looking for stuff I didn't know I needed!
1x4s are so much easier to work with. My ho layout was started in 2005 and still not nearly done. It 16x12x9 and has all 1x4s with homasote over plywood. Take your time you’ll get there Dave.
Looks like a good autumn project you'll have this year. I inset my legs also to allow for train shelves. I didn't want any back legs along the back wall, so I notched some scrap 2x2s for cleats for the 1x4 to over lap and lock in place and rest on. One 2' cleat is all I used for each 4' section. I built 4'x4' sections screwed together for an easy breakdown. Dave I used Home Depots economy 1x4x8. They keep them with the cheaper construction lumber and furring strips. I sort them to find the best ones. They are $2.58 ea. I used their 2x8 furring stips for legs. You must have gotten their select pine boards. My local Menards sells them for the same price as Home Depot and they call theirs standard pine. Select pine is a bit of overkill and typically used as furniture grade but it is better quality. I haven't had any problems with the construction grade pine.
@@dagryffynhobbyAt my local Home Depot they keep the construction grade common 8' boards in an isle near the plywood. They sell them as 1x4x8 and 2x2x8 furring strips. The select or quality pine is sold in a separate isle in racks of various lengths and sizes. The construction pine is sold only in 8' lengths. I mentioned that Menards sells their standard pine for the same price. I haven't found a similar item like that at Lowes. The 2x2x8 at Home Depot was about the same price as the 1x4 last time I bought some, but that was 4 years ago.
It’s a different approach, personally I made my layout strong enough to stand on, the use of foam as the main board has always surprised me that it works so well.
There are so many ways to do it. I feel like it comes down to preference. Not only have I stood on my layout, but I stood on it while removing a 65 pound tv off the wall. I’m not saying I would want to do it again though…
I try to keep boxes for engines and special pieces or things I actually paid retail for. Boxes for $15 cars go in the trash. Just don’t have the space!
Very nice! Smart move on the legs. I did the same on my new layout, after quite a few stubbed toes. I went with 7/16 OSB for the tables and it is noisier than I thought that it would be. I more than tripled the size of the layout and I didn't realize how loud that it would get. I'm getting 1 inch foam for the mainlines and probably a layer of 1/4 inch with the one inch on top, for the town. Foam is all new, for me, so we'll see how it goes. I'm looking forward to watching your layout expansion progress. An excellent video, as always.
Thanks. I was really more concerned about catching one of the legs and pulling it out from under the table. But either way, I think the legs set back is a nice touch,
@@dagryffynhobby Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't have too much room between the tables and the wall in a couple of areas, so I walk a bit close the layout. You use foam, which is new to me. What is a good paint to use? I'm lifting the tracks and town and putting foam down and I need something to use as a base coat, before scenery. I'm up for any suggestions.
@@dagryffynhobbyThanks. I bought a gallon of latex, tinted a grass-like green for the OSB and was hoping that I could use it on the foam. It should make it easier to scenic, I would think. I'll use it for the town scene and some dirty, black for the yard and industrial scenes. I'm looking forward to all of the updates on the new addition. Take care.
DOLLARSTORE has foam board 1/4” 1$ for 1 sheet Hot glue them into boxes. Then glue your nice foam scraps on the outside of the foam board box into your mountain shape
Far be it from me to be critical of your fantastic layout, but I'm sure you're aware that you've not sceniced anything yet. At least your new mountains will be another color than your pink mountains.lol
I haven’t!? Oh no! lol. I was ready to when I came up with the idea of the expansion and that has just put a lot of stuff on hold. I’d love to be making trees by winter time.
You didn’t mention any plywood for the top. I can’t imagine screwing the tracks into foam or pushing one’s hand thru foam. Sounds permanent with mounting to wall. Use 2x4’s not going to move it as mounted to wall. So weight shouldn’t be a concern as you say. I mounted mine to wall but never going anyplace as I’m 73. Angled legs to floor/wall corner allows for stowage underneath. A young guy as yourself gonna stay there forever?
No plywood. 2” foam on top. It’s been strong enough so far and I’ve stood on part of the layout too. I don’t use screws, the foam, roadbed, and tracks are all held in place with silicone caulk. I have no plans to move but you never know.
@@dagryffynhobbyI’m just old and wood top with screws holding the track down to it was the only consideration. I guess I’ve just have a bad taste for foam because the mess of static clinging balls of foam everywhere. Even the aluminum lined foam makes a mess. It’s as bad as cutting PVC with a saw blade. Saw dust vacuums up easy. But interesting following along even though I wouldn’t do it that way. PS I wouldn’t trust foam board to stand on. At the very least it’s gonna compress from weight exerted over a small area. Foam don’t with stand high PSI. But lay foam over a sheet of plywood and it will.
@@genemanno1533 it’s not polystyrene, that stuff is horrible to work with, like you said, lots of those clingy static balls. This is insulation foam and is a much different consistency. It’s not intended to be load bearing but it can be used as insulation under flooring, so it really doesn’t compress. But we all have our preferred ways of doing things and that’s what makes the hobby so great
Great update Dave 👍👍 love your passion and vision 😊😊
Thank you kindly
Can't wait.
Kool beans Man 🎉
Way to go Dave, good plan alittle at a time! Happy Railroading
Thanks!
Great update! Looks like exciting things are coming to the layout!
Thanks. I sure hope so!
Great update Dave. Looking forward to see the new additions.
Thanks Corey. Got a lot of work done this weekend.
Looks like you have a plan and a direction to move in. Hope you get the time to get started on it. We'll all be glad to see what you do. Have a great weekend.
Thanks. Got a lot done this weekend!
There are no scrap 2 x 4's. You'd be surprised how often small pieces come in handy.
I still have plenty of scrap 2x4 from my home renovation. At least 1x4 I can use for shelves or trim in the garage
Finally had a second to watch your update. Sounds like plans are happening for your layout. I seem to have a similar problem with speakers accumulating in my house!
I’m making progress finally!
I think speakers reproduce in the dark
Will be following your progress.
Thanks 😊
Hey Dave, Goodluck with the project, I know the price of supplies has gone up. Don't feel bad, my garage is also a careless catchall!
Thanks! Used the expansion work as a motivator to throw some stuff out
I don't blame you for being concerned about weight. And then you also have to factor in the weight of the engines and rolling stock that you're running. Those articulateds aren't light! Very informative video, thanks.
I doubt there will be any articulated engines on this layout. I mean never say never, but
Well best of luck and success on the layout expansion this weekend Dave! Myself, I'm off to a Greenberg show tomorrow. You know how it is, gotta go looking for stuff I didn't know I needed!
Thanks! Sounds like a plan to me!
1x4s are so much easier to work with. My ho layout was started in 2005 and still not nearly done. It 16x12x9 and has all 1x4s with homasote over plywood. Take your time you’ll get there Dave.
They really are. The benchwork for the larger table weights only 18lbs.
Your table sounds like it has to be nice and sturdy
At least you have all the supplies that you need. This next chapter is going to be very exciting. Nice update Dave! 👍
We meet again.
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I’m thrilled! And I made great progress this weekend
@@dagryffynhobbyI can’t wait to see your progress Dave!👍
Looks like a good autumn project you'll have this year.
I inset my legs also to allow for train shelves. I didn't want any back legs along the back wall, so I notched some scrap 2x2s for cleats for the 1x4 to over lap and lock in place and rest on. One 2' cleat is all I used for each 4' section. I built 4'x4' sections screwed together for an easy breakdown.
Dave I used Home Depots economy 1x4x8. They keep them with the cheaper construction lumber and furring strips. I sort them to find the best ones. They are $2.58 ea. I used their 2x8 furring stips for legs. You must have gotten their select pine boards. My local Menards sells them for the same price as Home Depot and they call theirs standard pine. Select pine is a bit of overkill and typically used as furniture grade but it is better quality. I haven't had any problems with the construction grade pine.
I always look for the cheapest lumber that fits my needs, and like you said, go through them to find the good boards. Maybe I have to look again…
@@dagryffynhobbyAt my local Home Depot they keep the construction grade common 8' boards in an isle near the plywood. They sell them as 1x4x8 and 2x2x8 furring strips. The select or quality pine is sold in a separate isle in racks of various lengths and sizes. The construction pine is sold only in 8' lengths. I mentioned that Menards sells their standard pine for the same price. I haven't found a similar item like that at Lowes. The 2x2x8 at Home Depot was about the same price as the 1x4 last time I bought some, but that was 4 years ago.
It’s a different approach, personally I made my layout strong enough to stand on, the use of foam as the main board has always surprised me that it works so well.
There are so many ways to do it. I feel like it comes down to preference. Not only have I stood on my layout, but I stood on it while removing a 65 pound tv off the wall. I’m not saying I would want to do it again though…
Store your boxes, you may sell in the future. The value in box is so much higher. Then you can go through a whole new rebuild. 😂
I try to keep boxes for engines and special pieces or things I actually paid retail for. Boxes for $15 cars go in the trash. Just don’t have the space!
Very nice! Smart move on the legs. I did the same on my new layout, after quite a few stubbed toes. I went with 7/16 OSB for the tables and it is noisier than I thought that it would be. I more than tripled the size of the layout and I didn't realize how loud that it would get. I'm getting 1 inch foam for the mainlines and probably a layer of 1/4 inch with the one inch on top, for the town. Foam is all new, for me, so we'll see how it goes. I'm looking forward to watching your layout expansion progress. An excellent video, as always.
Thanks. I was really more concerned about catching one of the legs and pulling it out from under the table. But either way, I think the legs set back is a nice touch,
@@dagryffynhobby Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't have too much room between the tables and the wall in a couple of areas, so I walk a bit close the layout. You use foam, which is new to me. What is a good paint to use? I'm lifting the tracks and town and putting foam down and I need something to use as a base coat, before scenery. I'm up for any suggestions.
@@johnandrus3901 I’ve used a basic cheap latex wall paint. I get a white gallon and have them tint it.
@@dagryffynhobbyThanks. I bought a gallon of latex, tinted a grass-like green for the OSB and was hoping that I could use it on the foam. It should make it easier to scenic, I would think. I'll use it for the town scene and some dirty, black for the yard and industrial scenes. I'm looking forward to all of the updates on the new addition. Take care.
DOLLARSTORE has foam board 1/4”
1$ for 1 sheet Hot glue them into boxes. Then glue your nice foam scraps on the outside of the foam board box into your mountain shape
That is an amazing idea! Thanks!
Time for a garage sale Dave. I was shocked how much people will pay for junk.
Used to do those a couple times a year and would do pretty well, the last few times it wasn’t worth the effort. Maybe I’ll give it a try again
Far be it from me to be critical of your fantastic layout, but I'm sure you're aware that you've not sceniced anything yet. At least your new mountains will be another color than your pink mountains.lol
I haven’t!? Oh no! lol. I was ready to when I came up with the idea of the expansion and that has just put a lot of stuff on hold. I’d love to be making trees by winter time.
You didn’t mention any plywood for the top. I can’t imagine screwing the tracks into foam or pushing one’s hand thru foam. Sounds permanent with mounting to wall. Use 2x4’s not going to move it as mounted to wall. So weight shouldn’t be a concern as you say. I mounted mine to wall but never going anyplace as I’m 73. Angled legs to floor/wall corner allows for stowage underneath. A young guy as yourself gonna stay there forever?
No plywood. 2” foam on top. It’s been strong enough so far and I’ve stood on part of the layout too.
I don’t use screws, the foam, roadbed, and tracks are all held in place with silicone caulk.
I have no plans to move but you never know.
@@dagryffynhobbyI’m just old and wood top with screws holding the track down to it was the only consideration. I guess I’ve just have a bad taste for foam because the mess of static clinging balls of foam everywhere. Even the aluminum lined foam makes a mess. It’s as bad as cutting PVC with a saw blade. Saw dust vacuums up easy. But interesting following along even though I wouldn’t do it that way. PS I wouldn’t trust foam board to stand on. At the very least it’s gonna compress from weight exerted over a small area. Foam don’t with stand high PSI. But lay foam over a sheet of plywood and it will.
@@genemanno1533 it’s not polystyrene, that stuff is horrible to work with, like you said, lots of those clingy static balls. This is insulation foam and is a much different consistency. It’s not intended to be load bearing but it can be used as insulation under flooring, so it really doesn’t compress. But we all have our preferred ways of doing things and that’s what makes the hobby so great
:)🚂👍
Trying to get the energy up is the hardest part. Even retired I find myself running out of time and energy. But: Tomorrow is another day!
Understandable. I used a whole lot of energy this weekend, got a lot done, and now I’m sore!