And attempting to transmute iron to silver and then gold is a form of counterfeit so they have to be careful how they use their magic to pay off their loans.
On Gandalf not wearing armor: Gandalf the Grey wasn’t going to war, so he dressed for traveling, not fighting, just like everyone else in the fellowship except for Gimli and Frodo: “The Company took little gear of war, for their hope was in secrecy not in battle. [...] Aragorn had Andúril but no other weapon, and he went forth clad only in rusty green and brown as a Ranger of the wilderness. [...] Gimli the dwarf alone wore openly a short shirt of steel-rings, for dwarves make light of burdens; [...] but Frodo took only Sting; and his mail-coat, as Bilbo wished, remained hidden.” When it’s odd for Gandalf not to be armored, for example, when going to face the armies of Saruman, Tolkien even points that out: “I thank you, Théoden King,' said Gandalf. Then suddenly he threw back his grey cloak, and cast aside his hat, and leaped to horseback. He wore no helm nor mail. His snowy hair flew free in the wind, his white robes shone dazzling in the sun.” But Gandalf the White doesn’t need armor because almost no one on middle earth is powerful enough to harm him: “Yes, you may still call me Gandalf,' he said, and the voice was the voice of their old friend and guide. 'Get up, my good Gimli! No blame to you, and no harm done to me. Indeed my friends, none of you have any weapon that could hurt me. [...] 'Dangerous!' cried Gandalf. 'And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord.”
Two corrections. Gandalf doesn't wear armour because he doesn't need to. He's literally the LOTR equivalent of a lesser god. He is eternal. Gandalf does not wear armour because he is not allowed to fight in the place of mortals, the only time this rule does not apply is if he's fighting other maiar spirits, such as the Balrog. This is why Gandalf does the speech about being a servant of the secret fire, he's telling the Balrog that it's no longer fighting a "mortal man" it's fighting its equal. If he broke these rules he'd end up like Sauron or Saruman, unable to return to the land of the gods and thus being stuck in the world of mortals as a lesser existance.
Wolfie Well, this is not entirely correct. Let me try to clarify: 1) “He doesn’t wear armor because he doesn’t need to”: Gandalf the White doesn’t need armor and Tolkien even bothers to tell us that, as I said in the original post. But Gandalf the Grey could still be wounded in combat. Indeed he was eternal, as you put it, but so were all the Elves. Being eternal means your spirit cannot leave Arda, but their body can still be destroyed. 2: “He doesn’t wear armor because he isn’t allowed to fight”: Indeed the Istari were prohibited to reveal their true power and rule over Middle-earth. But you are looking at the Legendarium as if it was an RPG. In Tolkien’s world there is no rule such as “mages can’t use swords”. The rules aren’t objective or unbreakable. Yes, the Valar forbid the Istari from fighting, but we actually see Gandalf fighting many times, for example against the Wargs in Eregion, the Orcs in the chamber of Mazarbul and the Nazgûl on Weathertop and outside Minas Tirith. He also was going to fight the Witch-king, but the madness of Denethor got in the way. He also revealed the strength that was on him when he carried Faramir out of the funeral pyre and used his “magic” to disarm Denethor on the same chapter and to scare Gollum so he would reveal the true story about the finding of the Ring. Finally, he rode as escort to some wains filled with wounded men, after Faramir’s last stand at the Causeway Forts. If the wains were attacked by orcs or even Haradrim, I don’t think he would just stand by and watch.
@@incanusolorin2607 You do make some great points that I'd not considered. When I stated they weren't allowed to fight, I meant as in fight as a maiar. They weren't allowed to use force to reach a positive outcome, such as simply ruling as a god amongst men, getting their way through shows of overwhelming force or simply going ham and whiping out armies on their own - that sorta stuff. The fact that Gandalf does actually use magic on mortals is something I'd completely forgotten and it makes my point a hell of a lot less valid. In regard to armour, I may be wrong but the role of the Istari were something along the lines of being a wise and helping hand, softly guiding the right people towards their "destiny". If he had showed up in a youthful form, fully clad in magical armour and with a godly weapon then that kinda falls apart - the aesthetics do make the man, so to speak. I always thought that being an old scholarly looking man with no real armour to speak of served two purposes, it meant they could not carry mortals on their back in their mortal forms and it meant they were perceived as what they wanted to be perceived as - wise, scholarly and kind old mages whose words should be heeded.
I have always wondered about that myself, in any real-world based modern setting with magic. Wizards with guns, would be better than Wizards without guns, unless there is some reason they can't use them. I am pretty sure that DC's John Constantine has used guns a few times before.
Well, guns are overpowered... they would be superior in every modern or futuristic scenario I can imagine. I guess, the main reason, why wizards don't use them, is, because it would be boring and completely destroying the setting. As soon as you got guns, you do not even need magic anymore, at least in combat. Guns have a far wider range, they cause more damage than most of the spells we see, and I do not believe, that you can really stop a bullet, since they put a lot of pressure on a single point. If magic follows the laws of physics at least a little bit, it would just break trough every shield that isn't powered by a very powerful source of energy... An american version of Harry Potter would have ended pretty fast, after James Potter shot Voldemort because he entered his house without permission. :P
Well, IIRC in the movies you can see wizards and witches deflecting spells left right and centre, I think with bullets that would be the same. So a gun would be not really more effctive, while being less adaptable, since a gun can only shoot, while a wand has more uses while having the kedavara as a highly effective killing tool, since it can only kill not injure, which is a possibility with a gun. So if bulletts are as easily deflected as spells, there would be no reason to use a gun except for multiple attacks maby.
If they are, but they are not. People often underestimate the speed of bullets. They can reach a speed of more than 1000m/s, which is almost three times faster than sound. A bullet fired from 100m away will hit you after only 0,1s. Even if you manage to react in that very short timeframe (and this only works if you see your enemy, as soon as you hear the gun, its to late), you won't be able to move your hands fast enough to deflect a bullet. Maybe by pure luck... but that is not a good chance to build a strategy on it. (go home, Genji, you are useless) And yes, Magic can be very powerfull... but you are faster pulling the trigger than a wizard is spelling a word. I do not know about the range of magic, but it won't be hundreds of meters, so this is another point for guns.
I truly hope that Shad will write a fantasy novel with all of these unique ideas. Can you guys imagine? Nomadic centaur clans that breed pet human to ride them. Mermaids that terrify sailors with their hooks. Orcs hordes with their long range bows. Giants with their giant sized slings hurling massive boulders at city gates, then reaping enemy soldiers with their scythes. And he wouldn't forget the dragons either. It would no doubt be a really epic story.
@@bumblingbureaucrat6110 What about her? She has good memory, but no brain and common sense. Her head has a good database unit, but no CP to work on it.
Another reason I love Elder Scrolls so much - practically every magic user has either a weapon or armor piece of some kind, and there are even spells that allow the magic users to summon various weapons and armor from Oblivion. Also worth noting - in Elder Scrolls 4, magic users could wield a weapon and still cast magic with the hand their holding the weapon in, and in Elder Scrolls 3, if the weapon has a special enchantment on it, it can act as a makeshift wand or focus even.
Darth Skarr I definitely am guilty of equipping a dagger and a Calm spell in Oblivion, then getting as many cuts in as I can before the spell wears off, and just keeping the enemy confused as long as I could XD
Even when playing as a melee build in Skyrim, I have found the fast healing spell to be immensely useful. If I fail to block or dodge and I have enough room to maneuver, I can disengage, swap to the fast healing spell and swap back to my shield/two-handed weapon. And I have also found wards to be very useful when storming a mage, far more useful than for a mage build. (Restoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise). All in all, Skyrim is really accommodating when it comes to mixing physical and magical builds.
How Harry Potter Should have Ended did that With Snape shooting Voldemort from behind, while Voldy and Harry did their laser duel at Hogwarts... it was golden! LOL
6:44 "That's not a real spell." 7:09 Harry and Voldemort are blasting each other with their wands, and Hermione shoots Tom Riddle with a pistol. "What kind of magic is this?" Voldemort asks as he touches the blood with his hand as he collapses. "This is muggle magic." Hermione says flatly.
I saw a kid wearing a shirt with your sword in battlements thing on it in highschool today, so as I passed him in the halls I tapped his shoulder and said, "I like your shirt, but what about dragons?" I think he laughed at that, but I walk really fast so he was already behind me
Actually in some theories/idea's on how magic worked that's a thing. example: wizard who harvested lightning would channel it through a spear/staff type weapon.
Ok but the idea of a battle mage being decked out in full body enchanted plate armor with a pole axe staff shooting fireballs is both badass and terrifying.
11:00 The magic of a wand or staff comes from the Druidic traditions where the life of a natural thing is the source of the power. Granted people are even less aware of this tradition today than they are of the variety and uses of medieval weapons, but they seem to sense it on an instinctual level. The further you shift the nature of a wand or staff from an icon of a *living* power the less magical the object is to the subconscious mind.
I was just thinking of a way to make my wizards in dnd not make their staffs and wands into weapons. Their construction would be specified towards shapes that are most conductive to magical energy. Your thing is really cool too, though.
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"If Gandalf can use a weapon then i think any wizard can" Except that Gandalf is not human, he is a Maiar, if compared to christianity, basicly an angel.
I often think the image of Odin over the years became the stereotypical image of a mage, which would make sense given his fondness for magic, dark clothes, wide brimmed hats, and spears which were sometimes disguised as a staff.
A single wizard with a bag of flechettes could decimate an army by turning invisible and using telekinesis on a hundred arrowheads zipping through the air
9:10 "Why not weaponize the items the wizards are already holding in their hands?" I played a game years ago called Silver (by Infogrames, I think), and the first magic item that you get in the game is an Ice Wand... which is actually just a short sword that can shoot ice bolts and sometimes freeze an enemy solid. I always wondered why wizards didn't just make wands out of swords...
The Staff IS a weapon. You forgot to consider the sheer focus required to cast magic, it could be comparable to performing mental algebra or calculus, or at the very minimum its going to take as much concentration as using a sword and board, and thats if the wizard stands still. What was the easiest weapon to use that requires the least concentration and skill? The club obviously, you just swing it no edge alignment or aim or nothing. How do you get the most strength out of someone with less upper body strength? Leverage, so spears and pole arms. BUT also the quarterstaff! while not as particularly lethal or good in rank-in-file battlefield, the quarterstaff is balanced and is more maneuverable than a pole arm, the force behind it is still enough to break bone and beat up baddies. Also reach So a mages staff (which is usually a big stick with a weight at the end) is not only a magical apparatus, but as a quarterstaff-club for self defense. Any random two handed swing is enough knock a sword or break an arm or rib or stagger an opponent while taking very little focus on the mages part. It doesn't have to be deadly because they have magic. Even a simple magic bolt, arrow or bullet can kill easy in melee range. so while others need to focus on defending themselves while killing their opponent first at the same time, the mage just has to defend themselves until they unleash magic. Also works as a walking stick and mages could be expected to carry staves, so it can be carried casually like swords, or perhaps even more so. Also i have seen sword wands used. Usually light dueling swords as it needs maneuverability, was used without a shield or anything, and needed to be everyday carry-able.
Gotta agree... In this MMO I play every now and then, Wizards mostly use a quarterstaff. Wizards tend to be able to spec more into crowd control and the CC leads to enemies becoming vulnerable, in which there's a quarterstaff that will give enemies negative levels when you hit them while they're vulnerable or when you crit. Not sure if it's still viable, but it sure as hell use to be fun to keep wacking enemies until they die from negative levels.
Agreed. Whenever I play a game where the mage classes wield these massive staves yet somehow doesn't have any sort of close-range combat abilities, I feel like screaming. You have a giant stick in your hands. _Use it._
Iron is usually seen as a material that counters magic. And i was always thinking that the wand or staff needs to be made of a "living" material, so that the magic can flow better. A 2handed staff could be seen as a way for the caster to connect to the earth and the sky. And don't underestimate the quarterstaff!!!
I mean, I kinda understand. Iron undermining magic dates back to the old pagan traditions that said that iron and other manmade materials were the one weakness of feys and also maybe druids. Still doesn't excuse warrior mages not wearing armor, though. Leather armor, people!
Excalibur was a little like this. Personally I'd like to see a wizard carrying a spiky ball flail thingy that could also be useful for slinging his spells at opponents.
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You made a word error in paragraph 4, line 2. You should have put murder hobos instead of wandering hobos. This was great otherwise, and made me laugh. xD
@@Frog_Wizard801 if the tip went dull, doesnt that just mean it saved your life about a dozen times or so to lose that edge in the first place? (Seems obvious now, ya? Now drum roll.....you go re-sharpen it for more glory kills)
Harry Dresden from the Dresden Files was one of the wizards who figured out that a high caliber revolver works darn well with a wizards staff, and so many things in the magic world can be solved by shooting it with a very large bullet. As for weaponizing wands/staves, I would think they wouldn't do it for the same reason soldiers since WW2 didn't leave their bayonets on all the time: the wand probably requires rapid and precise movements, extra metal just slows the thing down making it less useful and less accurate at the primary function of the thing. If armor can mess things up, imagine how bad extra metal on the precision pointing tool will screw up the balance and momentum. In addition for staffs often times the staff tip was the bit where the high power magic came off. Putting a metal piece would be like an old school plug bayonet permanently affixed. Which brings me to the final conclusion that the thing a staff needs is a bayonet lug, sure the bayonet is going to screw up your aim, which is why you fix the bayonet when you are out of spell ammo or know you are going to go into melee. Hell for the modern wizard, if the spell needs precision aiming, build a god damn Picatinny rail into the grip. That lightning bolt is bound to be more accurate with a reflex sight and laser dot. Or if you got freedom from arms restrictions, you can add the spell of the M203 grenade launcher to your staff. The ability to cast 40×46mm fragmentation grenade might be worth some degraded spell performance
In Medieval times Iron was believed to be like kryptonite to a plethora of mystical creatures. Including but not limited to. Goblins, Elves, and Vampires. Medieval people would often hang a iron horseshoe over their doorways to keep malevolent magical creatures away from their homes. The reason Wizards don't wear armor is because the iron in the steel would prevent them from using magic altogether. This actually makes Wizards and muggle warriors working together make a LOT more sense. The armored knight can shield his party members from magic with his armor and the Mages can help the armored warriors take down powerful threats from mid rage to far distances.
That's how it works in the game Legend Quest. It means wizards can use leather armor without problems or they can use magical substances, like using a shield made of glass enchanted to be as strong as steel. It's really cool forcing the spell casters to think about how they want to get around the iron/steel restrictions. (Other metals mess with magic too, but not as much as iron.)
That is only true in a few very specific cultures and time periods. Even if we accept it as universally true for fantasy, (which would be rather dumb, IMO) there are still other materials like Bronze from which armor, weapons, and shields can be made.
we're obviously talking about European inspired fantasy. It would be ridiculous for the rules of magic to only apply to specific countries in a work of fantasy fiction. Gandolf's powers were not region specific. Harry Potter magic did stop working once you left Europe.
As an avid Harry Potter fan I can tell for sure that the witch/wizard society in general dislikes depending on muggle inventions for things that can be done with magic. It's a pride thing. There are some muggle fanatics (like Mr Weasley obviously) but these people are generally considered outliers. A last thing to mention is that the books do talk about muggle inventions not working properly in Hogwarts specifically, this does seem to be referring to electrical devices more so than anything mechanical. Conclusion, You are right, in times of war there would really be no reason for witches/wizards in the Harry Potter universe not to use guns as sidearms. Pride does not really hold up in times of war like that.
Interestingly, I had arguments with the GF on this...I mean imagine Ron Weasley magically stealing a .50 Cal Sniper and shooting Belatrix in the face while hidden 1 km away in the mountain. Magic wouldn't even matter as she would have re-decorated the room before she was even aware that something had happened. Or you know instead of finding a way to get the Elder Wand via trickery, just shot the owner with a .500 magnum using hollow point rounds at point blank range while murmuring in his ears, "The muggles send their regards".
Hey, when I was playing D&D I had magic staff combined with war hammer. One end was casting magic, the other had hammer head. And I was dressed to look like a regular soldier so when I was walking with my hammer on shoulder I was basically able to cast a spell against anybody in front of me all the time without him even knowing. But you gave idea of mage bayonet. Next time I will fix a blade on my staff.
@Leo Cook And it was about ten years ago, so I do not remember that much anymore. Also I wasn't able to use the hammer much, it was basically one hit thing. And my magic abilities were shit without the staff. So I had to sacrifice lots from both just to have this. I guess I was better player when I wasn't trying to invite stupid crap and just used (or misused) what we already had.
I think weapon/armor restrictions in games, are less about visual aesthetics. And more about mechanical balance. Why would I play a fighter, when a wizard can wear armor and wield swords just as well, and also have magic? The magic user easely becomes a "mary-sue" type of character, making any other archetype obsolete if they are not roped in by restrictions. But I do agree that "because reasons" is not an adequate enough explanation on why those restrictions exist in the setting. One reason I've seen crop up is the theme where wizards are considered the "nerds" of the setting. Often having to spend much of their lives studying the magical arts. And as a result are often depicted as old or otherwise physically underdeveloped. Warriors are on the other hand the "jocks" that excel in physical endeavors, but lack the mental faculties to manipulate space, time and pixiefarts to any useful degree.
Many of those fantasy universes give the physical fighters superhuman abilities as well, though. So if you're talking about mechanical balance, why would you want to limit some characters' choice of equipment without adequate reason? This sort of balancing is just patchwerk design. If you feel that magic abilities are too strong, there are many levers that a good designer can use to keep them in check. You can make magic more situational, so sorcerers aren't always the go-to answer for everything. You can give magic severe drawbacks, making the choice of using it much more difficult and having it backfire regularly, or hard. Or you can quite plainly make magic weaker, or the superhuman abilities of physical fighters stronger, until they balance out. Or you simply roll with it and say that, in this fantasy, magic pretty much just is the best thing available, and anyone who doesn't use it is quite simply weaker than those who do. Those are all valid options, all leading to interesting stories and/or gameplay. Much more interesting, I find, than simply saying: "Magic users physically can't wear heavy armor because the creators of this realm said that it's unfair." If you want to have a setting where mages are allowed to wear heavy armor, but they don't (want to), then you have several options, too. You can go the D&D route of saying that heavy armor restricts the spellcaster's movements (or flow of magic), giving each spell a considerable chance to fail. You can say that a mage can enchant their gear to the kind of toughness that physical fighters wear, making it unnecessary for them to wear more than everyday clothing. You can even say that magic comes from a divine or otherwise sentient source that doesn't lend itself to anyone who's not wearing the traditional garbs. As a side note, last I checked magic and heavy armor was pretty much the best possible combination to use for both Skyrim and Dark Souls.
Exactly, like I said, just slapping a restriction on there without logic isn't a very good way of doing it. And if the mundane characters really arent mundane, because they have physical superpowers...Then the restriction makes no mechanical sense either. But take multiclassing for example. It's the "jack of all trades, master of none" kind of deal. Supposedly for balance reasons, they have more options, but they are not experts in either field. But if they are just plain "master of all trades" with no drawbacks, why would anyone ever choose to focus on just one thing, and loose out on options? And for sure, you could say that magic+armor is better than anything in this game. I would not prefere that setting, but that doesnt mean it's wrong and bad. Just not for me. I tend to like games where the different classes have defined roles, and the mage usually falls into the "glass cannon" category there. If we simply hand wave the armor restriction away in such a system, then what remains is a cannon. And noone wants to bring a sword to a cannon fight.
Fighters typically have "superhuman abilities" - yes, but they generally cannot do things that humans cannot do. They do things that humans do - to a superhuman degree. Mages/Sorcerors get to do things that are completely impossible for humans to do. The reasoning typically given for no heavy armor for mages is that metal armor inhibits the movement of mages needed to properly cast and aim spells - as well as metals having adverse effects on the formation of those spells. They generally can't hold a weapon while casting spells because it requires them to move their hands in specific ways - basically like naruto hand signs - but D&D nondescript version. lol. Generally speaking - most of the other things you mentioned are also done. Magic damage scaled down from what it "could" be - fighter abilities scaled up to superhuman degrees, etc. Magic in Skyrim for example is very under-powered compared to other forms of damage. Now granted - no matter what you go with - some form of "magic" will generally be involved in your equipment, or using shouts - but as far as damage goes in skyrim there is not a single way to increase your spell damage in the base game - but you can scale the damage of melee and archery up to absurd degrees if you really want to - enchanted equipment and the like. There is no enchantment or skill to boost a spells damage or DPS in any way though - just reduce cost and give other various effects like what melee and archery have anyways. both melee and archery both have spells and skills to directly increase damage dealt. My archer 1 shots everything before it can even move - my mage cannot accomplish this, no matter what is done, it can't one shot much.
I have limited experience with games from the last decade such as Skyrim, mostly because my PC is an old POS. But to me that seems to indicate a setting where the magic user is not really an adventuring class of character, but much more a working class like a farmer or blacksmith. Producing the magical equipment that adventurers use. I could be wrong of course, seeing as I havent played it. Regardless, the "mechanical balance" is seen again, only in the reverse. Why would one choose to play a wizard if magic is fairly useless compared to other options such as archery? (Logically speaking, of course fun and challange of being the underdog are valid resons if one wants that) And what would be the point of restricting armour for wizards in that setting, other than making them an even weaker choice? One can imagine a whole bunch of reasons why armor and magic does not cooperate. Magnetism, finger dancing, or otherwise. But first the creator of the setting had to decide that magic doesnt work in armor in the first place, and why was that? Probably because the creator wanted warriors to master warrioring, and wizards not so much. The details such as "magic abilities comes with metal allergies" can be worked out later, just as long as they arent forgotten or brushed aside.
The armor restrictions on wizards in dnd has less to do with appearance than class balance. The wizard is balanced to be a long range crowd control glass cannon. They also have non-linear power growth, such that wizards are the weakest class at low levels, and the strongest at high levels. Making wizards a tank class increases their low level survivability, which makes the class just a bit broken overall. They'd be like clerics, but better.
>glass cannon You mean, immortal being that's covered by 20 layers of stone skin and the absolute immunity spell? They're not very weak at low levels compared to other classes, they still can send a magic missle to you, which can one-shot low level characters if you're lucky for a roll, when other classes can suck dick with their unbelievably high THAC0. Clerics anyway have more (overpowered, let's be honest) buffs and they can kill magic immune enemies in hand to hand combat. Wizard anyway cannot do anything in melee due to his hit rolls, unless he summons a BBOD.
Yeah, I was about to say that as well. The main reason wizards don't need armour is that in DnD they start out with the choice of learning the aptly named "mage armour" spell, which gives them comparable armour class to what warriors would likely start with, in addition to it being magic armour and therefore able to block things that normal warriors can't, and having the force descriptor which means it can block ghost attacks and even certain spells! On top of that they learn the shield spell which does what it says on the tin, AND automatically blocks the most prevalent level 1 spell with no saving throw needed.
I will agree that Druid is the most overpowered class in the game though. But this stems from the strange niche that their class design seemed to have been tried to push them into. Druids are the generic toolkit character that you can fit into any party and still have them do well, it's just that for some reason they do most if not all of these roles as well or even better than the characters dedicated to specializing in them! And in the cases they do not, they still win out thanks to their ability to do all the other things. "I can cast spells, I can fight in melee combat, I have useful skills, I have a pet and if all else fails I can turn into a bird and fly away!"
Yeah man, wizards only seek to gain power through decades of study, through dark rituals, through dealing with demonic forces, through blood sacrifice, through mind affecting spells, and possibly through political maneuvering.. But NEVER through wearing armor, THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR! Seriously, imagine if you told the most power hungry wizard in your fantasy world that the only reason he's not wearing armor is because it's more fair for others that way. Imagine his reaction. I guess what I'm trying to say is, you need an in-game reason. "Balance" is a terrible world building tool.
Going from some hazy memory. The reason gandalf uses his shield/magic against a balrog and not in other things is because of what he is. He's not allowed to intervene too heavily in mortal affairs. He could crush an entire orc army in one spell but Éru doesn't allow it, he would have stripped him of his powers otherwise. However against a creature as powerful as a balrog he's allowed to amp it up a bit because they were direct generals to morgoth himself. It still wasn't his full potential tho. Basically the mortals needed to prove themselves and not have cheats, but if the enemy cheated then valar would police that.
@@WadcaWymiaru yeah but the balrogs , sauron and morgoth didnt want to sing to Eru's sheet music so they were expelled from the choir. Then they started to make their version of angry gangster rap and became public enemy number one :P
@@WadcaWymiaru The Ainur "sang in the choir" that created reality while Gandalf, all of the other wizards, the first Elves, and the Balrogs are Maiar. They are essentially demi-gods as they were allowed to help form middle-earth
I believed ainurs created the time (or plot) when sang. However when they descend on the world, they become Valars and Maiars. (from power and love/friend i believe)
As a massive consumer of fan fictions, I've seen at least a dozen theories on why the harry potter universe doesn't use firearms. These range from it being a social stigma,(one of the more sensible theories) or wizards not noticing that firearms have advanced past muskets(despite fighting WWII/Grindiwalds war), to protection spells rendering fire power worthless(despite a decent shot being able to kill them before they got out the first word of an incantation, let alone snipers shooting from a mile away). My favorite is that Voldemort, a muggle raised half blood who knows of modern firearms, follows a system of, if I remember correctly, "second strike escalation", in which he doesn't use a technology until it has been used against him. Thus if anyone used modern firearms against his forces, he would equip them with firearms, if gas was used against him, he would then use gas, and etcetera. Thus firearms were avoided so as to not escalate things further, the logical problem with this is that after his "death", criminal elements would likely begin using firearms, and so law enforcement would have to as well.
I believe it has something to do with a disdain and relative disinterest in muggle things in the setting. Wizards believe wands to be a far more lethal weapon then guns. Which Sirius Black actually takes advantage of when attempting an assassination. The book didn't devote much to it, but it certainly was considered one of the most frightening things about Sirius being on the loose. Really, I expect wizards in the setting would be taken aback by a lot of the modern conventional weapons, if any of them cared to learn.
the thing about guns is they are useless ageist the arrow shield charm (even more unless then an arrow actually as the fast a item moves the more effective the shield as it uses the velocity of the projectile ageist it so slower heavier items where a bigger danger) of course the shield has to be link to a object or cast by the wizard to be of any use and in all likely hood if it not link to a object they have on then you can likely get a shot off before they can cast the shield
Outside UK's gun laws/restrictions, the reason for the lack of guns is that they are easily more dangerous to the owner than the one their fighting. Guns are very easy to rendered useless, as a minor change in the gun(freeze, heat, shrink or enlarge the barrel, transfigure into a snake, hell splash it with water, etc.) and suddenly it is useless or highly dangerous to the person holding it. Also Sirius using a gun is a point of fanon, not canon, thus can't be used as a reference. Another major point against fanfiction that have Harry Potter!Gunmen theme is that a gun, no matter how much ammo it has, has both a breaking point and boiling point. What I mean by boiling point is simple: bullets are launched by micro-explosions within a confined space. Explosions, as they are more often than not, causes heat and recoil in the gun. This in turn causes the gun to heat up as the energy from the explosion is imparted into the metal around it. More often than not a gun doesn't have enough ammo in it to cause this to happen simply due to its size, but making it a bottomless clip infinite ammo gun changes that drastically. This leads to the second problem most don't think about: the breaking point. Guns require constant maintenance even when not in use, but especially when in use both in terms of replacement parts and cleaning. After all, a gun is simply a directed explosion with a piece of shrapnel in front of said explosion. Heat and the force behind said explosion will warp the barrel, the firing pin will wear down and break, the casings will jam. Doing the hand wave of making it indestructible(through runes especially, as those are structural weaknesses in the gun) would also render a gun useless, as parts are designed with the purpose of wearing down in mind. Like turning water into oxygen, you can't do that if the bonds between the Oxygen and Hydrogen atoms can't be broken apart. In the end, a mundane gun can't be retrofitted into a magical gun, you have to craft an entirely magical gun in order to make it worthwhile(which, I will note, is why most magical guns in anime look like revolvers or look like something sci-fi like the Caster gun from Outlaw Star). Then you have to look at how fast spell casters can be and what spells can defeat guns. For example in the final battle for Hogwarts(which I for one found incredibly one sided and hopelessly pitiful), Shacklebolt casts a spell at a rapidly approaching death eater than just busted through the window/walls, which in turn freezes everything coming from that direction as though frozen in time before blasting it back the way it came. This is the Impediment spell, that impedes motion/kinetic(not spells) energy. Dumbledore could have used this spell against Voldemort's glass shards attack, though that would have left the glass shards in play or allowed Voldemort to use other spells to set the glass in motion again. Grown(competent) wizards can cast most spells they know non-verbally and with very little time needed. I find one of the biggest offenders(story wise) in terms of Muggle/NoMaj superiority over Magicals/Mages is the story Voyage of the Starship Hedwig. Mainly because it isn't purely NoMaj versus Magi, but NoMaj enhanced by Muggleborn(who mysteriously don't participate on either side and never show up in story). He then proceeds to lay an utter smackdown on the Magicals even after they leave Earth behind.
The norse god Odin has many names some of those are "the wandering wizard" or "the gray wizard" He is the inventor of magic and the creator of the runes which are magical so you could say he is the original gandalf.. He carries with him the magical spear Gungnir and he uses it not only as a spear but also a magical staff from where he directs his magic :)
Well, Tolkien was a solid historian and did translate Beowulf into a English (a version of it, at least), so he would be very intimate with Norse Lore and Mythology.
Well, generally one of the big rules is that iron is the antithesis of magic, so wizards can't use armor or weapons that use iron because it disrupts their magic. I feel like bronze weapons and armor would work. Though for my money, the best defense is bound weapons and armor. Basically gear made from magic that cut and protect like iron but weighs nothing.
Extra detail: This comes from iron being said to disrupt a witches magic in certain cultures. Other cultures took silver for the metal to do so. This may have to do with silver's antibacterial properties being misunderstood
@@mezz09smezzanine Also silver represents purity in most cultures, and thus is used by holy agents as a weapon against evil, such as using silver bullets against werewolves and such
There was almost never any restrictions on carrying weapons (or weapon types) in medival times. There was a handful of cities that banned them who had a large soldier presence in the city, but even swords would have included in that ban. Shad actually covers this very topic in great depth in 1 stream.
@@srobeck77 It's also legal for people to openly carry Assault Rifles and body armor in the USA. It still terrifies everyone who sees them and causes the authorities to interact or watch their every move, with their weapons at the ready. Try to go to a restaurant with full body armor and an assault rifle, while every single customer leaves in fear (rightfully) or complains to the manager. It isn't unrestricted to carry around weapons of war. Even if it isnt illegal.
@@nowayjosedaniel id be more terrorified of your ignorance and thinking youd be safer in unarmed countries like China and Russia without anyway to fight back at ruthless governmemts
You know what else is made out of a length of wood you point at things as a part of a weapon? A crossbow stock. Combine it with a wand(or tape it to the bottom if the wand needs to be a specific shape) and you suddenly have a decide that shoots both bolts and fireballs.
Asehujiko I see no reason why you couldn't make a crossbow stock out of wand-quality wood and fit a wand core inside it. Do you think the handle of Godric Gryffindor's sword was of a similar construction?
Magical crossbows usually are augmentated to create energy bolts, to steady the weapon, to reduce weight, or to ease reloading. However, when it comes to magical arms, the bow part is foregone completely and the shot just fired magically instead. But they rarely use projectiles, as those are even more limited by ammo capacity than magical shots. Think about it: Why carry a metric ton of heavy bolts if you can get the same by stocking a belt or pouch full of magical crystals that slot into your boomstick? If you can create what basically amounts to a magical sniper/assault rifle combo, you wouldn't settle for an unwieldy, slow-firing crossbow with strong feedback and bending parts.
the only issue there is the wand end would specifically have to be right at the front or poking out slightly, otherwise a spell being cast puts the non-magic parts of the weapon at risk. otherwise, i see no issue with that.
I think I've seen this in a D&D supplement - a crossbow with sockets for holding wands as well. Which would work well for D&D wands, which are pretty much a point-and-invoke affair. Might be too cumbersome for systems where rapid movement of the wand is needed to cast a spell, though. I certainly was thinking that a crossbow would probably be an appropriate weapon for the typical wizard or sorcerer. Keeps you away from the fighting, doesn't require as much physical strength to be effective as bows or melee weapons, and pointing and shooting a crossbow probably isn't that much different to pointing and shooting a magical beam or projectile (except that the bolt is probably more subject to outside factors like wind and gravity).
Not always true. A favorite tactic a party of mine had was to cast bull's strength on the normal sized Barb or Fighter. The Frenzied Berzerker Dwarf was then Hurled(or bowled depending) into a pack or enemies.
11:05 YES PLEASE! sword wands is a really cool idea. However some magical systems that require wands also require precise movements of them (as is the case in Harry Potter) having your wand also be a sword would prolong casting time as its a bit more cumbersome to complete the movements.
"See that man over there, the one with the long white beard, the long robes and the pointy hat. Yes, the one that looks like a wizard, that is probably just a walking stick in his hand." "Yeah, totally just an innocent walking stick, let's not try to take it away from him though, if we do he will turn us into frogs." Trying to make a wizardstaff look less like a powerful weapon would probably work better if you have a shave, ditch the pointy hat and wear normal clothes.
For a D&D setting it all depends on how common the class is. In a typical (high-magic) setting, a staff isn't fooling anyone. Whereas in LotR most people had never seen a wizard.
True, but "a defenceless old man" in the company of three very formidable and strange looking warriors ought to stand out regardless. Any group containing Gimly and Legolas would stand out in a human society. Especially since it is common knowledge that dwarves and elfs hate each other. And Gandalf even seems to be in charge. Imagine yourself if you saw a group of people walking trough your local mall and three of them were Mike Tyson, Bruce lee and Peter Dinklage, all of them carrying assault rifles. Wouldn't you think that was suspicious and be a bit wary of the fourth person in that group, especially if he was their leader?
One of your pictures was of Harry Dresden, and he would get along with you on this point so well. His trench coat is enchanted to be better than plate armor (never mind the robes his peers are rocking), he carries a hand gun with him everywhere, is not afraid to punch a dude in the face if need be, and his specialty use "Earth Magic" cane is the sheath of a fencing *Sword Cane*.
I was laughing because I am writing, I do use wands and staffs, were you have Formal, and Military variants. Also my roommate is laughing at the harry potter quote because he said "I brought a 9mm and a 308 to hogwarts... I no longer have to go to defense against the dark arts."
Nigel Black May I remind you that the _Harry Potter_ series is set in the UK? On the other hand, I wouldn't be too surprised if someone tried it at Ilvermorny, the main wizarding school in North America.
My favourite role playing game (Midgard, the oldest German Pen&Paper RPG) explains it quite well, why wizards cannot use metal armour in its particular setting. 1. The typical arcane magic and the life force magic of the druids rely heavily on chaotic energies flowing in and out of the sorcerer. Metal is a heavily structured material that inhibits the flow of magic. Also, a breastplate alone is also not that bad, even though it makes some problems. Helmets and gloves are far worse. Also, religious reasons prohibit the use of forged metal for druids. 2. There are three types of spells: Thought, Word and Gesture. To perform a spell of the gesture type, you need two free hands. An exception can be made if you have a so called thaumagral, a certain magical item made only for you that can alter specific spells you imbue it with. 3. There is magic that is unaffected by armour: miracles. Priests and paladins can wear armour and still use their magic, because it does not flow directly out of their body but comes from their deities. They of course have other restrictions like the code they live by and they can lose their magic completely if they manage to severely piss off their god. The one exception here are the shamans. These can actually cast miracles as well (they just do not have deities, but nature spirits instead) but a metal armour would feel to them like being cut off from nature. So, they cannot use it for psychological reasons.
@@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 in his game yes. I noticed Harry potter realm requires all 3 for MOST spells: A specific gesture with hand and wand + speaking a certain string of words + thought/ focus. As an example, The Patronus (Harry summons a Stag to ward off the Dementors) requires the strongest mental thought/ focus.
As far as "weaponize magical objects," the closest thing I have seen is the Bloodskal Blade in Skyrim. It can be used to shoot magic, or used as a normal sword.
I love the mental image of Gandalf saying "you wouldn't part an old man from his walking stick" while attempting to carry a goddamn halberd into the throne room.
In dragon age 2 and Inquisition mages also have short blades on one end (usually the oposite end of the magical focus) of their staves. In Inquisition they don't see any actual use, but if a mage in DA2 was fighting in melee, he would use a different animation set where he primarily fights with the blade.
In the Inheritance Cycle, people who do magic are drained of energy. The more magic they use or the more complicated spells they use, the faster they become tired. In the books, one could "store" energy in gemstones and access it during battle when they were low on energy to continue using magic or just to participate in traditional combat. If one attempted a spell beyond their capabilities, it could kill them. So essentially, you have to build up an endurance to use magic.
@zeldaknight101 well, for one thing, it saves time. You can levitate an entire pile of debris to the side almost instantly for the same amount of energy it would take to move each piece one-by-one. It also means you can replenish your water supply by bringing ground water to the surface for comparatively small effort (as you're not having to dig all the way down to the groundwater). Both of these are examples from the books, and they just scratch the surface. As the original commenter said, you can also store energy in gemstones to act as a buffer.
in the Shannara books druids work almost the same: using magic takes a toll on their life energy, and after a while they're forced into a sort of magical hybernation that lasts years if not decades to replenish
My favorite mage staff id ever seen was this one staff in dragon age 2 that was pretty much a spear. It was pretty much like shad was describing, except the "magic end" and the "blade end" were on opposite ends. It made the fighting look really cool tho. Basically slash, magic ball, slash, magic ball, slash. To me it also brought into light the prospect of a sort of a "magic martial arts" I wonder what shads opinion is on the practicality of the "blade end" and "magic end" being on the same end vs. them being on opposite ends of the pole arm/staff.
You could always have blade end sheathed outside of battle. Historically people used walking sticks with concealed blade inside them, you could do something similar to that on mage staff. And if it's supposed to serve as battlefield class weapon, you can just sheath it without concealing it, and just have wooden sheath on the blade, maybe with some metal added at the end to increase lifespan of said sheath. It would be more difficult on axe/hammer-heads than spearhead, but well... you don't usually carry halberd with you on day to day basis, and taking away walking stick functionality from mage staff for the battle isn't that big of a deal. Another option would be to add metal spikes on the staff, and make it into long spiked club, it could retain it's walking stick properties, and it wouldn't add that much weight to it, also avoiding intruding into main part of the stuff with metal parts, which could render mage staff useless in some fantasy settings.
There's a really old game called Dungeon Siege. I've been playing it recently and it's quite cool in that regard. You start with basic quarterstaffs and once you advance, the staffs have a more and more weaponlike look. Somewhere in midgame you get some really special and important staff for the story and it's more or less a Trident. I really like that.
It may matter for a given magical system that the "magic end" of the staff is exposed and can be pointed at your opponent, but a bayonet style blade could still be attached.
Getting REALLY late to this topic, but if i remember correctly, gandalf does get some fancy armor from the dwarves in lonely mountain. But as it is stated by himself in movie/book 2 of tlotr, no mortal weapons can really damage him anymore. Before that, well, he is a entity more powerful than men, elves, dwarves, orcs and similar by nature.
Like Pedro said, Gandalf the White can’t be harmed by anyone in ME, except for Sauron, so he has no need for armor. But Gandalf the Grey didn’t wear any armor either, especially a mithril shirt. Mithril is reaaaaly rare and Gandalf isn’t wealthy, many characters even say he looks like a beggar/wanderer.
In many systems it is the metal itself that interrupts the magic. Many say that Iron or Steel interrupts the flow of magic and can nullify the spells. So armor or swords would keep the spell from forming. Not all magic systems have this restriction, but it is very common. One great example of a magic user that still has a sword and armor is The Wheel Of Time. Rand al'Thor uses a sword to a great degree, but he is the most badass magic user in that series. It depends if the system has metal or material restrictions on the flow of magic.
I think silver is to soft to make anything much bigger than a knife, but as you say, much better than nothing. Or you could have a blunt silver weapon like a mace or warhammer with a wooden handle.
Well... Seeing that the staffs was given to the five magicians by the Valars who sent them to middle earth in the year 1000 of the first age I guess the Valars didn't foresee that the magicians would have use for a staff weapon several thousand years later.
Well there are a great number of non metallic materials that can be used for weapons. Some tropical timber can be as hard as iron if the carpenter knows what he is doing. Or stonemaces which where common in the pacific area. But the best weapon in case of metal restrictions is a blade made of magically reinforced obsidian. Obsidianblades are by far sharper than Steel ones, their only flaw is that they splinter fast.
I think Dragonlance (D&D and Fantasy) had a good take on it. Wizards originally in the setting could carry staves (for use in magic more then combat) but no other weapons because of tradition and mind sets of wizards are to dedicate themselves to the art not weapons (fighter wizards do exist and are looked down on in the setting and again they are looked down on because they split their time between mastering weapons and casting spells instead of dedicating themselves to magic). Also in universe the wizards were explicitly eventually allowed to carry a dagger as well. Reason? A wizard got captured because he ran out of spells and had nothing to defend himself with. I think it made sense because it was more cultural and tradition then "no they just can't do it." Even better they add a practical knightly order that goes "eff the tradition we're going with practical shit" and put their mages in full plate with swords.
Totally agree with you. Any weapon requires training, which consumes time. For a wizard, that time must be only be consumed in arcane studies. It's not just a matter of narrow-mindedness, it's just that magic (in settings like Dragonlance, at least) is too damn hard.
There was a kids' series I read that had something similar. Wizards were under various social restrictions because "people fear magic enough already, if we went armed or held noble titles they'd start thinking about witch hunts".
A wizard? You mean one of the greatest and most renown wizards to ever live, friend of Huma Dragonsbane the wounder (is that a word?) Of Takhisis Lol, now that bit is done... They were allowed small weapons such as daggers because if Magius had had one he would have been able to escape from his capture.
*NOTHING* Affix a jarring crystal to the top and bash in their skull! Sharpen the butt of you staff and skewer your enemies! Sharpen your wand and stake it into their sockets! Unlesh your inner warrior!
@@Qaianna Well, in 5e, it's 1d8+ strength mod, or 1d10 if using it with two hands. So, if you used certain races who could dump dexterity - such as the turtle/tortoise-like tortle, which has a flat natural AC of 17 - you could come up with an Oogway look-alike that can bash heads and blast away with fireball. Also, in a pinch, acts like Emergency Tank when the Paladin, Barbarian, strength-based Fighter, or Heavy Armor Proficient Cleric, is low on health, and the Druid is out of Wild Shapes.
According to Harry Potter lore: The question of why a wizard would need a sword, though often asked, is easily answered. In the days before the International Statute of Secrecy, when wizards mingled freely with Muggles, they would use swords to defend themselves just as often as wands. Indeed, it was considered unsporting to use a wand against a Muggle sword (which is not to say it was never done). Many gifted wizards were also accomplished duellists in the conventional sense, Gryffindor among them." So basically, I guess they don't carry guns because modern british people don't. Sill doesn't explain why the bad guys don't though.
if it was set here in the states they would use guns.. no way around it. .. have you ever seen the parody where harry gets sent to the states instead of growing up in england.. its the first thing he does. buys a desert eagle and says this is much better :D
So wizard with a staff with a spear on top, chain mail or gambeson underneath his robes, and a dagger or sword in case they run out of magic. I have some ideas for my Skyrim character.
iamedbytes Yeah the Centaur mount enterprise has never been the same ever since the Centaurs took affirmative action and been pickiting on the main roads.
@@stereotypicalswede9132 the movie left out the scene where the Bobby stepped out of the water like the terminator and asked if he had a loicense for that m8?
@@ianrodabaugh4674 I never thought I'd find myself asking what sort of gun Harry Potter would have. Probably just a Glock, or M&P. He seems like the type of person who would use something that bland. Not saying those are bad guns, they're great if care about nothing but functionality and you don't want to pay an obscene price for an H&K or Walther, but they are pretty boring
Enchanted pommels that magically comes back \o/ At high speed D: To end you rightly too T_T Killer pommels gone wild flying around everywhere, end of civilisation. Only DRAGONS remain, before anyone asks.
Great video, bit late to the party but making my way through the videos. Just a few things i have noticed... In Harry Potter, Hagrid could cast magic via his umbrella thus making people believe Dumbledore repaired Hagrid's wand and either hid it or built it into the umbrella for discreet reasons (Hagrid was expelled and forbidden to use magic) so building a wand into weapons seems plausible. In D&D 5th, wands and staffs act as a spell casting focus but there are some classes such as the College of Sword Bards, who can use their sword to act as a spell casting focus. But if the spell requires the wave of a wand then waving a sword might be both awkward but deadly... Another thing could be, is that many magic folk might have blind faith in their spells and cling to their staffs so neglect physical and martial training, but doesn't mean they can't.
Also in 5e, wizards have infinite access to low power spells. If you can always shoot a firebolt at someone, you don't need a real weapon outside of fringe cases.
The reason Gandalf does not wear armor is because when leaving to middle earth the Miarar adopted less imposing roles. The adopted power through counciling and not brutal force. This explains why Gandalf was not wearing armor
ted bonetti and probably because he is more or less immortal anyway...Orks or humans aren't close to his power level,he's basically bashing noobs all the time Except when fighting the balrog
This actually remind me of a character my friend created in D&D. His wand was the handle of his short sword. When he neede magic he held the weapon in it's sheath and pointed the swords handle at the foe, while when he needed the sword he just drew it.
I think a big reason mages don’t wear armor is because they really don’t need it. Just like bowmen don’t need full plate armor: they fight at long range. Mages and wizards presumably fight at med-long range so they wouldn’t need heavy cumbersome armor like a warrior would. Having all that armor would be heavy, restrictive and uncomfortable. Using spells probably requires concentration, so they’d want to be as comfortable and light as possible. Robes are extremely comfortable and light. they also typically aren’t allowed to use many weapons because of balance in games, but realistically it’d be because they wouldn’t be trained to use them. Magic takes a lot of training and studying, so they wouldn’t have much time to also train and master using other weapons passed a basic level. they probably wouldn’t be that physically strong because magic doesn’t require strength, so their weapon choice would be limited and their impact damage would be lower.
against somebody proficient in magic as well, armor would be useless. you're not dealing with human forces places on hard weapons against your body, no. you're dealing with the utter forces of the universe, you're having literal meteors flung at you.
@@yeen.7209 adding to this, it's usually a _lot_ easier to apply magical enchantments to cloth than metal, meaning that a cloak or robe often _is_ the best protection against enemy magic granted, this sorta means the best way to kit yourself out as a wizard would be a cloak that wards against magic over light armor that's _effective against arrows,_ because, yeah, all the anti-magic defenses in the world still have a gaping hole in them if magic's not the only form of ranged combat out there
"if Gandalf can use a weapon any wizard can" That is kind of false, because Gandalf isn't just an old guy with a stick He is an Ainur (an angel like being) so his physical capabilities are beyond that of humans and this allows him to use weapons to a much better degree than just an old guy Magic also comes naturally to him, so he is capable of fighting melee while also using magic effectively, while other wizards usually have to concentrate on the spells so that they can't use a sword at the same time
So Gandalf "forgot" how to ever use offensive magic throughout at 6 movies and instead opted to become a melee warrior the entire time because he embued his body with strength instead? Ya that's just stupid. Making fireball would have been far more obvious to do. (Nothing in the books or movie suggested he was a magically infused warrior btw). In reality, the director Peter Jackson disliked the notion of using magic so much so that prefered to go down the ridiculous plot that Gandalf is a front line melee warrior and was actually very weak at magic (unless you count that time he used his staff to temporarily blind a dragon like a spotlight).
@@srobeck77 Nothing in the books suggest he was a magically infused warrior? Where did you read the books lmao. Gandalf was sent to guide the peoples of middle earth and was forbidden of solving their problems himself. Even the movies see him throw lightning bolts when fighting the balrog
@@lukec2004 your logic still doesnt make any sense as Gandy "solved problems" by killing dozens of orcs with his swords as a melee knight. So you think Gandy found a "loophole" by not fireballing them instead? I dont buy it....
@@srobeck77 Gandalf was still allowed to kill orcs, but he wasn't supposed to make a huge difference. He used the sword in the movie because it kept his magic vague while not making him look useless.
@@lukec2004 ok but thats still an incorrection "loophole". By decimating rows of Orcs with his sword, Gandy was slaying as much as top tier warriors, so a "huge difference" was in fact, made by him. Not to mention, the "selective times" Gandy did use magic to kill or stun dragons. Plus, the "You shalt not pass moment" when Gandy used magic to get past the demon that would have wiped everyone out. That alone destroys this "loophole" theory that he only did small acts.
I was thinking something with larger magazine capacity, since it's conceivable that some sort of magic barrier might have to be overcome. Of course if it's an ambush and you're expecting to catch the wizard off guard, a .357 would lay them out instantly. Of course if you're going to be assaulting a group of wizards, I'd like a military grade weaponry. I mean, if Hogwarts had some Browning .30 or .50 cal emplacements and the occasional 40mm grenade launcher they could have probably fought off the Death Eaters no problem.
I have thought this for years. The battle for Hogwarts would have been a lot shorter if a guy with a rifle posted up somewhere and gave Voldemort a new hole in the head. One of the groups I'm in on Facebook had a discussion about this yesterday, actually. One guy posted a pic of Harry using a spell called automat kaleshnikova.
Lol, I'd like to see that movie. This is why I'm a big fan of the Dresden Files book series. He's a modern day wizard of immense power, and rapidly approaching the level of immortality, but still keeps a .38 special on him because sometimes shooting a demon in the face surprises them long enough for you to save the day.
Wands, especially Harry Potter wands, are more designed for precise movements in spellcasting. You have to do specific maneuvers with the wand, along with the verbal spell, to cast magic. In that world, adding more weight to the wand would make it less effective at wizarding duels, since your opponents could generally get their spells off quicker, before you could counter cast.
But why not have a backup weapon? If not a pistol then why not a second wand? I know that wands are personal and that a backup wand will be less powerful, but a less good weapon is much better than nothing if you get disarmed.
Maybe you could build a Wand with a bladed/spiked hand guard, like a Trench Knife, or just a rapier/saber style basket hilt. The hand guard would affect your dexterity minimally and give you some minor defense... AND if a guy charges you before you get the chance to start/finish your spell, you can deck him upside the head for serious damage!
If I needed some sort of excuse for urban wizards not to use guns it could be that they could be easily countered by a simple passive spell that prevents the ignition of a gunpowder.
Their wizards. You don't think they would prepare for that with an enchantment of some kind that makes it impossible for magic to effect it's firing. Sure your reliant upon the source of ammunition but it is effectively your most reliable weapon. I'd also say modern wizards would also carry a sword and an insane amount of ammunition in a magical bag along with some enchanted combat armour for when they need that extra layer of protection. Also an invisibility cloak and a dagger for the ultimate ninja, wizard, gunslinger, swordsman combination.
@@spiritvdc5109 That's the point. If every wizard is OP as they are in most wizarding stories why not accentuate upon the OP do it's logical when Mcguffin the Brave comes in with the same load out++ and the ultimate armour spell (plot armour) our hero becomes so majorly OP that it's only a matter of time before all enemies bow down to them.
Like in fire force there was a wizard that could control his bullets by burning the gun powder to make the bullets go where he wanted and hit with a certain force. He could also control other people’s bullets
Personally, my preferred homebrew reason for why you don't see casters in armor has to do with the connection to Fae and the effects of cold iron. Certain types of metals and processed alloys and materials naturally have anti-magical properties, meaning when worn by a wizard they tend to create feedback and weaken the power of magic. As such, most dedicated casters primarily wear Gambeson underneath their robes and such to ensure proper protection. Further, this also incentivises the use of metal armors by non-magical warriors, since it provides some slight resistance against magic to them, meaning a knight in fullplate with an arquebus is the most dangerous thing to a wizard That's not to say that magic sers can't wear armor, however any plated armor has to be altered in construction and inlaid with focusing gems and other enchanted materials, meaning that not only in the production of it much more expensive, but overall it also has much less integrity and protectiveness that mundane armors
"has to do with the connection to Fae and the effects of cold iron" This is in several folk mythologies, celtic, anglo-saxon and slavic, at least. Basically those are the mythologies that are most prominent in modern fantasy, so I believe this is best single reason.
Pathfinder Savant could you please give me your sources? that concept of anti- magic properties of metal seems interesting, given that so many mythological indo-european magic weapons/ítems were made from metal or metal-like substances, like the surdasaná chakrá, the vajra/fulgur, the invisibility helmet, the Gungnir/Poseidon's trident, some celtic spears, the many blessed and cursed swords...
Olhor Rocannon Go back and reread. I said it was for homebrew stuff, as in stuff I'm making up for my own fantasy setting. Meaning there are no sources, and no justification other than me making stuff up for the sake of internal consistency. Literally the first sentence boyo.
Olhor Rocannon Many sources including some of grims tales list iron or "cold iron" as dangerous to the fae. Lots of these are contradictory of course such as where an iron nail can keep a faery portal open in some stories but locks it shit in others. Try using the sources from en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_in_folklore And folklorethursday.com/folklore-of-archaeology/ferrous-friend-foe-iron-became-enemy-fairy-folk
Pathfinder Savant usually I go by the you need very precise hand movements and to get materials for your big spell (1k worth of diamonds to cast revive) and since the materials plus your other magical scrolls and staff are already super expensive you can't really afford a good set of armor. As for sword yes you can carry and use them but nowhere as skillful as a warrior or fighter since for you to get magical powers you probably where stuck inside some library for years. And since pc can't be Mary sues in a campaign I tell them they either go magical or sword or go spell blade which is a jack of all trades
A staff is a weapon already tho and there are quite a few martial arts that train people in the use of staves. They are also much more instinctive to use than a polearm or sword so the wizard wouldn't have to really train in its use as a weapon, just hit things hard to get to a safe distance again.
Thank you, I was looking for this comment. Mages are skinny bookworms who already train 25 hours a day for magic. In many lores they are also required to hold their staves to "channel their energy" or whatever, now if they also need to do gestures that leaves them with exactly 0 hands for an extra weapon. We are still talking about humanoid mages, right?
Oh yea, Shad! Don't forget magic weapon buffs as well. In any battlefield scenario, even one competent wizard would be an absolute nightmare, considering his or her role in supporting the troops and/or debuffing the enemy troops!
"I'd like to introduce our new defense against the dark arts teacher, Professor Gandalf" "You, SHALL NOT, PASS!!!" "well that's a little harsh, classes haven't even started yet" I Love that channel :D
Suikeina Don't be such a fool to ask the dragons for their word! Do you not know they slumber, and here your calling?! You are all fools, calling upon the wrath of the wyrms, waiting to devour us as they did our ancestors! Flee now before it is to late!!!
Gandalfs staff with a retractable spear tip would be dope...bang the end of the staff on the ground, blade pops through the top, how to retract it though...
7:18 Here are my thoughts on why no one in Harry Potter uses guns: 1) Most wizards are completely unaware of what guns are or how they function: Throughout the books we see time and time again that most wizards know almost nothing about muggles and muggle technology. Ron's father, an "expert" in muggle technology, has no idea how planes stay up in the air. A wizard newspaper story mentioned that guns are "a wand like thing muggles use to kill each ohter". Later a character calls guns "firelegs". All muggle tech, including guns, are so far outside wizards worldview that most of them won't even think of getting some to use in a fight. 2) The bad guys are anti-muggle racists: Voldemort and his death eaters absolutely hate muggles and everything related to muggles. They want magic to be supreme above all else. If they even knew enough about guns to consider them they would likely conclude that guns are just beneath them. 3) The good guys are teenagers living in the UK: Harry, Ron, and Hermione are ages 11 to 17 in the books. While Harry and Hermione know what guns are, they have no chances to get any guns in books one through six, as they are going to a magic school, and in the seventh book they are on the run from the Voldemort controlled Ministry of Magic. In the UK you can't exactly go into a gun store and buy whatever you like, there is a huge pile of regulations and red tape to get any gun. Maybe they could've stolen some guns from the police with the aid of magic or the invisibility cloak, but remaining hidden, surviving, and hunting down Voldemorts soul shards was a lot more pressing matter.
also there's always enchanted clothing. I'm sure plenty of wizards use magic to make cloth more durable but why not use that same spell on armor, making it SUPER durable? because if you're enchanting your armor, why even show up? send the armor. it doesn't need the wearer anymore. and that's when you find yourself fighting enchanted suits of armor.
I don’t have an explanation for weapons, but how I’d explain the lack of armour is that ambient magic (i.e the magic you absorb to replenish your reserves quicker) flows like air, and the denser the material you’re surrounded in is, the more it disrupts this flow. This means that you’ll have exactly the same output in full plate as in robes, but your recovery will be severely crippled. In video game terms this’ll manifest itself as a reduction in MP regen, just as an example.
Sidenote, I’d totally get a halberd-staff. Halberds are my favourite medieval weapon, though I usually go with swords for aesthetic reasons. Kinda hard to get a halberd to work with a ninja-necromancer, you know?
I'm curious why you never brought up knives. It's plausible a wizard could conceal an arming sword among their lower robes but a combat knife at the waist or hidden along forearms is neither particularly anachronistic nor visible. Knives aren't a viable battlefield weapon? They are when you can screw their haft into the top of your staff! The same polearm principle works with hatchets--aside from concealment the weapon would likely have impractical balance. But battlefields don't magically appear from nowhere and properly assembling your spear or glaive could take mere minutes.
If I prioritizing being combat ready over looking like a harmless old traveler, then it's halberd time! But it'll be a passable hatchet in a surprise fight.
My thoughts exactly. A bayonette type knife + a way to fix it to your staff = legit bayonette at a fraction of the weight. Plus it's concealable and even useful for daily life.
Well there is the simple factor that in pretty much many situation, if you have to face up a sword, an axe, polearm, or mace, your knife or dagger doesn't give you an advantage, it's cleary an incovenient to fight those with it. The reach pretty much screw you up and the whole "agile and fast" meta that are surrounding the knife is pretty much non existant because sword users are in fact a fast and versatile weapon, so basically the upgraded version of the knife. But, for sure it's conveniant to still have a knife for basic things when travelling, or even if you got a system to attach it to your magix staff to create a polearm ! This idea is really cool, credits to N20joe for that one.
I think Wands and Staffs are generally channelling items, so incorporating them into a weapon could affect the channelling. Staves especially often have something at the head of them, in some Fantasy worlds these items or features are tuned to produce an effect on the magic channelled through the staff. So converting it into a spear head or poleaxe could disrupt the flow of Magic, depending on the world.
Staffs are ABSOLUTELY NOT fine to use as a weapon, their ususally too dangerous to hit people with; There are some staffs that discharge all their spells into an area of effect around you when broken or damaged, hurting even the one using the staff in the first place. Hell you might even make a gate to another realm and allow evil things through. Or have all 10 to 50 fireballs discharged at once. If you break a staff of power you instantly die as the staff detonates like a mini nuke.
TellmeNinetails now there is an idea, use a staff like a javalin, meant to break on impact. Wands could be fitted like bolts. Launch it into a crowd and watch the fireworks. In dnd, magical items are supernaturally durable, smacking someone with a staff of fireballs is a perfectly viable alternative to switching weapons
Dumbledore approaches Harry and reaches towards him holding a large cloth, ''Harry I entrust my secret weapon to you. It may be the only thing that can kill Voldemort'', he pulls back the cloth and says ''a Glock 17''.
Your Gandalf impression is disturbingly good... If any old object can be a magic targeting system, then a good thin dagger seems even better than a sword. It's small and light enough to whip around and do your magic motions and stuff, but if someone gets close enough that magic missile just won't do then they're likely also in dagger range. Daggers are far easier to carry then a sword or halbard, doubt get in the way, but are still amply lethal. And you can cut dinner with them, too! So instead of a swand, I'm thinking a daggand? Or a wangger? Hm, definitely daggand...
Gray Blackhelm you don't have to base your magic of Celtic beliefs (I think fairys come from the Celtics). Certainly many other cultures have magic, and of course you could always just come up with your own system.
David Craft Also, we don't know where this comes from, being that celtic myths are full of magic weapons made from iron, like cursed swords and powerfull magic spears.
Lets be honest, in a world where magic was common the warriors would be magic users. They would train their mind and body like anyone who wants to be functional. The truth is good warriors need discipline and willpower so if your magic system has mages that use strong wills rather than extensive knowledge than there is nothing preventing warriors from developing magick. If anyone can use magic those who don’t but still like to hurt people would tend to gravitate toward undisciplined thugs and Street toughs. They want to beat up civilians, not lose to disciplined warriors.
In most universes that problem solves like "not everyone can wield magic, you need to born with it", like midichlorian thing for Star Wars force users.
Most series that have everyone access to magic deal with that by making everyone can learn but they can learn not exactly the same due to lack of talent or lack of attribute, if not counting individual subject of interest. So most warriors can use magic but they are not used in the same way as mages, in other word, people who become mage usually more focus on large scale strategic spells if not outright practice in academic sphere only in most of the time, on the other hand, people who become magical warrior will get more focus on tactical spell that can be use along with martial art or weapon art in the front line. In some series which divided people on attribute, people who more talent in using magic inwardly (such as body strengthening or clear mind) will be warriors, who more talent in using magic outwardly (sorcery or attack spell) will be mage, some who talent in sacred magic or healing spell or something that dealing with miracle or higher power will be priest, and some who professed in magic both inwardly and outwardly (usually very rare) will be magical knight. And things like these can always be happened even when everyone learned magic from the same institution or the same book, some are just good in somethings and other are just good in others so not everyone can be magical knight.
My buddy and I had a drinking game where everytime you said interesting we would take a drink... We were not prepared for this intro
William Murphy welp, i suppose if Shad didnt kill a man then he can at least be blamed for that smell in the corner.....
Reminds me of that How I Met Your Mother episode where they take shots every time Robin says "But umm."
RIP
Wizards don't wear armor because they can't afford armor because of wizard college tuition.
and after graduating , they have to pay off their loans.
And attempting to transmute iron to silver and then gold is a form of counterfeit so they have to be careful how they use their magic to pay off their loans.
Bentron88 is that a Skyrim reference 😏
Adrian Phil Noooooooo.... what would give you that idea?
Bentron88 I guess I was wrong then............ FUS RO DA
On Gandalf not wearing armor:
Gandalf the Grey wasn’t going to war, so he dressed for traveling, not fighting, just like everyone else in the fellowship except for Gimli and Frodo:
“The Company took little gear of war, for their hope was in secrecy not in battle. [...] Aragorn had Andúril but no other weapon, and he went forth clad only in rusty green and brown as a Ranger of the wilderness. [...] Gimli the dwarf alone wore openly a short shirt of steel-rings, for dwarves make light of burdens; [...] but Frodo took only Sting; and his mail-coat, as Bilbo wished, remained hidden.”
When it’s odd for Gandalf not to be armored, for example, when going to face the armies of Saruman, Tolkien even points that out:
“I thank you, Théoden King,' said Gandalf. Then suddenly he threw back his grey cloak, and cast aside his hat, and leaped to horseback. He wore no helm nor mail. His snowy hair flew free in the wind, his white robes shone dazzling in the sun.”
But Gandalf the White doesn’t need armor because almost no one on middle earth is powerful enough to harm him:
“Yes, you may still call me Gandalf,' he said, and the voice was the voice of their old friend and guide. 'Get up, my good Gimli! No blame to you, and no harm done to me. Indeed my friends, none of you have any weapon that could hurt me. [...] 'Dangerous!' cried Gandalf. 'And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord.”
Even as Gandalf the gray there were almost no things that could hurt him, and those who could wouldn't be stopped by a simple piece of armor
Yeah, a balrog was one of the few things that could actually fight him while he was grey.
Two corrections. Gandalf doesn't wear armour because he doesn't need to. He's literally the LOTR equivalent of a lesser god. He is eternal. Gandalf does not wear armour because he is not allowed to fight in the place of mortals, the only time this rule does not apply is if he's fighting other maiar spirits, such as the Balrog. This is why Gandalf does the speech about being a servant of the secret fire, he's telling the Balrog that it's no longer fighting a "mortal man" it's fighting its equal.
If he broke these rules he'd end up like Sauron or Saruman, unable to return to the land of the gods and thus being stuck in the world of mortals as a lesser existance.
Wolfie Well, this is not entirely correct. Let me try to clarify:
1) “He doesn’t wear armor because he doesn’t need to”: Gandalf the White doesn’t need armor and Tolkien even bothers to tell us that, as I said in the original post. But Gandalf the Grey could still be wounded in combat. Indeed he was eternal, as you put it, but so were all the Elves. Being eternal means your spirit cannot leave Arda, but their body can still be destroyed.
2: “He doesn’t wear armor because he isn’t allowed to fight”: Indeed the Istari were prohibited to reveal their true power and rule over Middle-earth. But you are looking at the Legendarium as if it was an RPG. In Tolkien’s world there is no rule such as “mages can’t use swords”. The rules aren’t objective or unbreakable. Yes, the Valar forbid the Istari from fighting, but we actually see Gandalf fighting many times, for example against the Wargs in Eregion, the Orcs in the chamber of Mazarbul and the Nazgûl on Weathertop and outside Minas Tirith. He also was going to fight the Witch-king, but the madness of Denethor got in the way. He also revealed the strength that was on him when he carried Faramir out of the funeral pyre and used his “magic” to disarm Denethor on the same chapter and to scare Gollum so he would reveal the true story about the finding of the Ring. Finally, he rode as escort to some wains filled with wounded men, after Faramir’s last stand at the Causeway Forts. If the wains were attacked by orcs or even Haradrim, I don’t think he would just stand by and watch.
@@incanusolorin2607 You do make some great points that I'd not considered. When I stated they weren't allowed to fight, I meant as in fight as a maiar. They weren't allowed to use force to reach a positive outcome, such as simply ruling as a god amongst men, getting their way through shows of overwhelming force or simply going ham and whiping out armies on their own - that sorta stuff. The fact that Gandalf does actually use magic on mortals is something I'd completely forgotten and it makes my point a hell of a lot less valid.
In regard to armour, I may be wrong but the role of the Istari were something along the lines of being a wise and helping hand, softly guiding the right people towards their "destiny". If he had showed up in a youthful form, fully clad in magical armour and with a godly weapon then that kinda falls apart - the aesthetics do make the man, so to speak. I always thought that being an old scholarly looking man with no real armour to speak of served two purposes, it meant they could not carry mortals on their back in their mortal forms and it meant they were perceived as what they wanted to be perceived as - wise, scholarly and kind old mages whose words should be heeded.
Harry Potter doesn't use guns because British laws.
But I wouldn't be surprised if Hagrid had a sawn off shotgun.
The Buckbeak execution scene would go very differently, I think.
Harry got lucky, that voldemort respects british muggle laws as well.
@@dukenukem2214 Who would win, Voldemort or Voldemort with a gun
@@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 a pommel to the face
Could u just IMAGINE Hagrid driving into battle on the flying motorbike with the sawn off shotgun all terminator style 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
great, now I imagine Dumbledore standing on a tower in Hogwarts with a minigun...
thats absolutely epic
I have always wondered about that myself, in any real-world based modern setting with magic. Wizards with guns, would be better than Wizards without guns, unless there is some reason they can't use them. I am pretty sure that DC's John Constantine has used guns a few times before.
Kaimar0 Would have made those movies better...
Well, guns are overpowered... they would be superior in every modern or futuristic scenario I can imagine. I guess, the main reason, why wizards don't use them, is, because it would be boring and completely destroying the setting.
As soon as you got guns, you do not even need magic anymore, at least in combat. Guns have a far wider range, they cause more damage than most of the spells we see, and I do not believe, that you can really stop a bullet, since they put a lot of pressure on a single point. If magic follows the laws of physics at least a little bit, it would just break trough every shield that isn't powered by a very powerful source of energy...
An american version of Harry Potter would have ended pretty fast, after James Potter shot Voldemort because he entered his house without permission. :P
Well, IIRC in the movies you can see wizards and witches deflecting spells left right and centre, I think with bullets that would be the same. So a gun would be not really more effctive, while being less adaptable, since a gun can only shoot, while a wand has more uses while having the kedavara as a highly effective killing tool, since it can only kill not injure, which is a possibility with a gun. So if bulletts are as easily deflected as spells, there would be no reason to use a gun except for multiple attacks maby.
If they are, but they are not. People often underestimate the speed of bullets. They can reach a speed of more than 1000m/s, which is almost three times faster than sound. A bullet fired from 100m away will hit you after only 0,1s.
Even if you manage to react in that very short timeframe (and this only works if you see your enemy, as soon as you hear the gun, its to late), you won't be able to move your hands fast enough to deflect a bullet. Maybe by pure luck... but that is not a good chance to build a strategy on it. (go home, Genji, you are useless)
And yes, Magic can be very powerfull... but you are faster pulling the trigger than a wizard is spelling a word. I do not know about the range of magic, but it won't be hundreds of meters, so this is another point for guns.
I truly hope that Shad will write a fantasy novel with all of these unique ideas.
Can you guys imagine? Nomadic centaur clans that breed pet human to ride them. Mermaids that terrify sailors with their hooks. Orcs hordes with their long range bows. Giants with their giant sized slings hurling massive boulders at city gates, then reaping enemy soldiers with their scythes.
And he wouldn't forget the dragons either.
It would no doubt be a really epic story.
Ervin Ughy and bloody terrifying to live in o.o
Ervin Ughy Just imagine the Humans that an survive- or thrive- in this world.
As a writer myself I've been paying close attention to these weapon analysis videos.
And let's not forget the angels that swoop down like bloody eagles and kick you with sword feet, and drop flechettes and bombs...
I'm pretty sure Shad HAS written a novel
My theory on Harry Potter is that magic occupies the section of the brain normally reserved for logic and common sense.
"You're a wizard, Harry! Say goodbye to your dreams of being an engineer, the math portion of your brain is full of jumping, chocolate frogs!"
This makes so much sense.
What about Hermione?
@@bumblingbureaucrat6110 she got lucky?
@@bumblingbureaucrat6110 What about her? She has good memory, but no brain and common sense. Her head has a good database unit, but no CP to work on it.
Another reason I love Elder Scrolls so much - practically every magic user has either a weapon or armor piece of some kind, and there are even spells that allow the magic users to summon various weapons and armor from Oblivion.
Also worth noting - in Elder Scrolls 4, magic users could wield a weapon and still cast magic with the hand their holding the weapon in, and in Elder Scrolls 3, if the weapon has a special enchantment on it, it can act as a makeshift wand or focus even.
and you can make a heavy armored shield wizard. The one of my best skyrim builds.
@Leo Cook Indeed. Why have either a Fireball or a Sword & Shield when you can have both?
Elder scrolls 4 hmmmm
Darth Skarr I definitely am guilty of equipping a dagger and a Calm spell in Oblivion, then getting as many cuts in as I can before the spell wears off, and just keeping the enemy confused as long as I could XD
Even when playing as a melee build in Skyrim, I have found the fast healing spell to be immensely useful. If I fail to block or dodge and I have enough room to maneuver, I can disengage, swap to the fast healing spell and swap back to my shield/two-handed weapon. And I have also found wards to be very useful when storming a mage, far more useful than for a mage build.
(Restoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise).
All in all, Skyrim is really accommodating when it comes to mixing physical and magical builds.
*Harry goes to Voldemort in the forbidden forest at the battle of Hogwarts*
Voldemort: AVADA KEDA-
Harry: *Shoots Voldemort in the head*
Bwix Harry Potter and the Second Amendment
How Harry Potter Should have Ended did that With Snape shooting Voldemort from behind, while Voldy and Harry did their laser duel at Hogwarts... it was golden! LOL
@@jeffhendricks7660 More like Harry Potter and the Second *Armamment* am I right?
lol 😂
Austin Airmet, I saw it... you weren’t lying... lol
6:44 "That's not a real spell."
7:09 Harry and Voldemort are blasting each other with their wands, and Hermione shoots Tom Riddle with a pistol.
"What kind of magic is this?" Voldemort asks as he touches the blood with his hand as he collapses.
"This is muggle magic." Hermione says flatly.
Actually a rifle is much easier to use for a novist, and are better for long range.
@@gamecavalier3230 what can I say? I see them both a little differently.
flat,
That would be the most bad ass thing in cinema
war wizards
I saw a kid wearing a shirt with your sword in battlements thing on it in highschool today, so as I passed him in the halls I tapped his shoulder and said, "I like your shirt, but what about dragons?" I think he laughed at that, but I walk really fast so he was already behind me
awesome :D
”A swordy wand” has to be my favourite weapon ever😂
Dragon age
The Punisher Sequence I’m afraid I haven’t played it, is there anything specific I can google?😊
@@MinnaMe01 just google dragon age 2 staffs
basically a magic lightsaber
@I'm Batman i would go further and recommend only dragon age origins, since later versions were butchered by EA
The moonlight greatsword of course, it's got the best intelligence scaling
Bah the wooden ladle is the way to go. Let them know there doom is at hand.
Nah I love my moonlight butterfly horn
That or the fucking chaos infused Dagger.
*sees comment related to souls, likes, sees persons user and pfp is related to sc, tries to like harder*
Guns, the don't need intelligence scaling.
"Swordy wandy thing" aka... A Swand, a sword that has a wand duct tape to the grip.
lastdracon haha your profile picture in combination with your comment 👌
Brilliant
Actually in some theories/idea's on how magic worked that's a thing. example: wizard who harvested lightning would channel it through a spear/staff type weapon.
Like a medieval fantasy bayonet.
Sword staff?
Ok but the idea of a battle mage being decked out in full body enchanted plate armor with a pole axe staff shooting fireballs is both badass and terrifying.
11:00 The magic of a wand or staff comes from the Druidic traditions where the life of a natural thing is the source of the power. Granted people are even less aware of this tradition today than they are of the variety and uses of medieval weapons, but they seem to sense it on an instinctual level. The further you shift the nature of a wand or staff from an icon of a *living* power the less magical the object is to the subconscious mind.
I was just thinking of a way to make my wizards in dnd not make their staffs and wands into weapons. Their construction would be specified towards shapes that are most conductive to magical energy. Your thing is really cool too, though.
Attack with wand!
Swings wand. Wand breaks.
No damage to enemy.
Run!
Bring more wands next time.
@@CaptainWobbs Foolish single wanded wizards
In practice dual want technique
"craft of exile" minecraft modpack when not picking spellcaster in a nutshell, breaking wands on weak enemies to not damage the good weapons
Should've brought a staff...
"If Gandalf can use a weapon then i think any wizard can" Except that Gandalf is not human, he is a Maiar, if compared to christianity, basicly an angel.
I often think the image of Odin over the years became the stereotypical image of a mage, which would make sense given his fondness for magic, dark clothes, wide brimmed hats, and spears which were sometimes disguised as a staff.
A single wizard with a bag of flechettes could decimate an army by turning invisible and using telekinesis on a hundred arrowheads zipping through the air
9:10 "Why not weaponize the items the wizards are already holding in their hands?"
I played a game years ago called Silver (by Infogrames, I think), and the first magic item that you get in the game is an Ice Wand... which is actually just a short sword that can shoot ice bolts and sometimes freeze an enemy solid. I always wondered why wizards didn't just make wands out of swords...
The Staff IS a weapon. You forgot to consider the sheer focus required to cast magic, it could be comparable to performing mental algebra or calculus, or at the very minimum its going to take as much concentration as using a sword and board, and thats if the wizard stands still.
What was the easiest weapon to use that requires the least concentration and skill? The club obviously, you just swing it no edge alignment or aim or nothing.
How do you get the most strength out of someone with less upper body strength? Leverage, so spears and pole arms. BUT also the quarterstaff! while not as particularly lethal or good in rank-in-file battlefield, the quarterstaff is balanced and is more maneuverable than a pole arm, the force behind it is still enough to break bone and beat up baddies. Also reach
So a mages staff (which is usually a big stick with a weight at the end) is not only a magical apparatus, but as a quarterstaff-club for self defense. Any random two handed swing is enough knock a sword or break an arm or rib or stagger an opponent while taking very little focus on the mages part. It doesn't have to be deadly because they have magic. Even a simple magic bolt, arrow or bullet can kill easy in melee range. so while others need to focus on defending themselves while killing their opponent first at the same time, the mage just has to defend themselves until they unleash magic.
Also works as a walking stick and mages could be expected to carry staves, so it can be carried casually like swords, or perhaps even more so.
Also i have seen sword wands used. Usually light dueling swords as it needs maneuverability, was used without a shield or anything, and needed to be everyday carry-able.
you've seen many great things. where do you live if I might ask?
Gandalf was using staff to crush orcs skulls...know from being thick-heads and head-buts...
Gotta agree... In this MMO I play every now and then, Wizards mostly use a quarterstaff. Wizards tend to be able to spec more into crowd control and the CC leads to enemies becoming vulnerable, in which there's a quarterstaff that will give enemies negative levels when you hit them while they're vulnerable or when you crit. Not sure if it's still viable, but it sure as hell use to be fun to keep wacking enemies until they die from negative levels.
Perhaps learn to use the staff as a quarterstaff? It's a big stick, bash someone with it.
Agreed. Whenever I play a game where the mage classes wield these massive staves yet somehow doesn't have any sort of close-range combat abilities, I feel like screaming. You have a giant stick in your hands. _Use it._
Your a wizard harry.
Nah hag I'm a thug I'm bringing my Glock or I ain't going.
You a g harry...
Wayne Paul : A full auto 10 mm Glock.
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Iron is usually seen as a material that counters magic.
And i was always thinking that the wand or staff needs to be made of a "living" material, so that the magic can flow better.
A 2handed staff could be seen as a way for the caster to connect to the earth and the sky.
And don't underestimate the quarterstaff!!!
Mostly gold and carbon (wood, crystals etc) are good at providing magic.
I mean, I kinda understand. Iron undermining magic dates back to the old pagan traditions that said that iron and other manmade materials were the one weakness of feys and also maybe druids.
Still doesn't excuse warrior mages not wearing armor, though. Leather armor, people!
@@augustovasconcellos7173 Here's my kit as an Inquisitor during the Renaissance:
- Leather Greatcoat
- Capotain
- Cuirass
- Gambeson
- Leather Glove (Left)
- Pauldron (Right)
- Rapier
- Flintlock Pistol
- Pickaxe
- Hidden Blade (Right)
- Rune Tome
- Crucifix Amulet (Cursed)
P.S: Not a Left-Hander
Heavy brass, copper or bronze caps on the ends of the staff. Brutality and practicality.
A spear tip doesn't have to be metal in fact. It can be as good as just mabe of bone
Excalibur was a little like this. Personally I'd like to see a wizard carrying a spiky ball flail thingy that could also be useful for slinging his spells at opponents.
Everything Medieval the mace part could be the focus for spells
A spike ball flail that is also on fire!
Or just spiked or spikey flail. A morning star is a type of mace.
"Supressing magiiiiiiiiiic!!!!!" *casts random spells like a hippo crapping out*
Pathfinders has a cleric needing to have their special seal to use spells so it's allways a god idea to just put your seal on your main weapon.
Man those shirts sure are... interesting.
but... WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS?!?!
MultiMistick99 More importantly... *MACHICOLATIONS*
All these comments are so interesting.
Aidan Mcdonald very interesting
Aidan Mcdonald The most interesting shirts in the world. Stay clothed, my friends.
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I'm dying.
but can you unscrew the pommel to end him rightly?
@ahmataevo
*hogwarts army pocket wand
Shouldn't have read this in public xD
You sir deserve to be higher up
You made a word error in paragraph 4, line 2. You should have put murder hobos instead of wandering hobos.
This was great otherwise, and made me laugh. xD
I would put a spear tip on the end of a magic staff. Then I can flip it around and use it as a spear
But the tip would go dull, cool concept tho
@@Frog_Wizard801 fair but if you have magic you can probably preventing it from dulling somehow
@@Frog_Wizard801 if the tip went dull, doesnt that just mean it saved your life about a dozen times or so to lose that edge in the first place? (Seems obvious now, ya? Now drum roll.....you go re-sharpen it for more glory kills)
@@bengoodwin2141 Just keep the spear tip and the crystal or whatever casts the magic on the same side and keep it facing up.
You just described the banishment catalyst from dark souls.
Harry Dresden from the Dresden Files was one of the wizards who figured out that a high caliber revolver works darn well with a wizards staff, and so many things in the magic world can be solved by shooting it with a very large bullet.
As for weaponizing wands/staves, I would think they wouldn't do it for the same reason soldiers since WW2 didn't leave their bayonets on all the time: the wand probably requires rapid and precise movements, extra metal just slows the thing down making it less useful and less accurate at the primary function of the thing. If armor can mess things up, imagine how bad extra metal on the precision pointing tool will screw up the balance and momentum.
In addition for staffs often times the staff tip was the bit where the high power magic came off. Putting a metal piece would be like an old school plug bayonet permanently affixed.
Which brings me to the final conclusion that the thing a staff needs is a bayonet lug, sure the bayonet is going to screw up your aim, which is why you fix the bayonet when you are out of spell ammo or know you are going to go into melee.
Hell for the modern wizard, if the spell needs precision aiming, build a god damn Picatinny rail into the grip. That lightning bolt is bound to be more accurate with a reflex sight and laser dot. Or if you got freedom from arms restrictions, you can add the spell of the M203 grenade launcher to your staff. The ability to cast 40×46mm fragmentation grenade might be worth some degraded spell performance
So build a gun with magic? i like that thinking.
I honestly laughed out loud at the idea of a motherfucking picatinny rail on a wand.
Tacticool wands. Jesus Christ.
In Medieval times Iron was believed to be like kryptonite to a plethora of mystical creatures. Including but not limited to. Goblins, Elves, and Vampires. Medieval people would often hang a iron horseshoe over their doorways to keep malevolent magical creatures away from their homes. The reason Wizards don't wear armor is because the iron in the steel would prevent them from using magic altogether. This actually makes Wizards and muggle warriors working together make a LOT more sense. The armored knight can shield his party members from magic with his armor and the Mages can help the armored warriors take down powerful threats from mid rage to far distances.
Except bronze swords were a thing and while nowhere near as good as hardened steel they could still kill unarmoured foes with ease.
That's how it works in the game Legend Quest. It means wizards can use leather armor without problems or they can use magical substances, like using a shield made of glass enchanted to be as strong as steel. It's really cool forcing the spell casters to think about how they want to get around the iron/steel restrictions. (Other metals mess with magic too, but not as much as iron.)
Photoloss yeah I was about to throw in bronze... it's just more expensive...
That is only true in a few very specific cultures and time periods. Even if we accept it as universally true for fantasy, (which would be rather dumb, IMO) there are still other materials like Bronze from which armor, weapons, and shields can be made.
we're obviously talking about European inspired fantasy. It would be ridiculous for the rules of magic to only apply to specific countries in a work of fantasy fiction. Gandolf's powers were not region specific. Harry Potter magic did stop working once you left Europe.
As an avid Harry Potter fan I can tell for sure that the witch/wizard society in general dislikes depending on muggle inventions for things that can be done with magic. It's a pride thing. There are some muggle fanatics (like Mr Weasley obviously) but these people are generally considered outliers. A last thing to mention is that the books do talk about muggle inventions not working properly in Hogwarts specifically, this does seem to be referring to electrical devices more so than anything mechanical.
Conclusion, You are right, in times of war there would really be no reason for witches/wizards in the Harry Potter universe not to use guns as sidearms. Pride does not really hold up in times of war like that.
Interestingly, I had arguments with the GF on this...I mean imagine Ron Weasley magically stealing a .50 Cal Sniper and shooting Belatrix in the face while hidden 1 km away in the mountain. Magic wouldn't even matter as she would have re-decorated the room before she was even aware that something had happened. Or you know instead of finding a way to get the Elder Wand via trickery, just shot the owner with a .500 magnum using hollow point rounds at point blank range while murmuring in his ears, "The muggles send their regards".
You don't know a lot about firearms, do you?
The thing is though; they are in Britain. Them not having guns makes a lot of sense.
Not just at Hogwarts, any place with a high level of magic.
@@matthewmuir8884 i hear guns were restricted in the early 2000's and i think HP takes place in the 90's
Hey, when I was playing D&D I had magic staff combined with war hammer. One end was casting magic, the other had hammer head. And I was dressed to look like a regular soldier so when I was walking with my hammer on shoulder I was basically able to cast a spell against anybody in front of me all the time without him even knowing.
But you gave idea of mage bayonet. Next time I will fix a blade on my staff.
Gunstaff > swordstaff > hammerstaff > unmodded staff
@Leo Cook You just need to weed up DM and let him think about "it would be cool if..."
@Leo Cook And it was about ten years ago, so I do not remember that much anymore. Also I wasn't able to use the hammer much, it was basically one hit thing. And my magic abilities were shit without the staff. So I had to sacrifice lots from both just to have this.
I guess I was better player when I wasn't trying to invite stupid crap and just used (or misused) what we already had.
So a knife taped to the wand end of your hammerstaff?
I think weapon/armor restrictions in games, are less about visual aesthetics. And more about mechanical balance.
Why would I play a fighter, when a wizard can wear armor and wield swords just as well, and also have magic?
The magic user easely becomes a "mary-sue" type of character, making any other archetype obsolete if they are not roped in by restrictions.
But I do agree that "because reasons" is not an adequate enough explanation on why those restrictions exist in the setting.
One reason I've seen crop up is the theme where wizards are considered the "nerds" of the setting. Often having to spend much of their lives studying the magical arts. And as a result are often depicted as old or otherwise physically underdeveloped.
Warriors are on the other hand the "jocks" that excel in physical endeavors, but lack the mental faculties to manipulate space, time and pixiefarts to any useful degree.
Many of those fantasy universes give the physical fighters superhuman abilities as well, though. So if you're talking about mechanical balance, why would you want to limit some characters' choice of equipment without adequate reason? This sort of balancing is just patchwerk design.
If you feel that magic abilities are too strong, there are many levers that a good designer can use to keep them in check. You can make magic more situational, so sorcerers aren't always the go-to answer for everything. You can give magic severe drawbacks, making the choice of using it much more difficult and having it backfire regularly, or hard. Or you can quite plainly make magic weaker, or the superhuman abilities of physical fighters stronger, until they balance out.
Or you simply roll with it and say that, in this fantasy, magic pretty much just is the best thing available, and anyone who doesn't use it is quite simply weaker than those who do. Those are all valid options, all leading to interesting stories and/or gameplay. Much more interesting, I find, than simply saying: "Magic users physically can't wear heavy armor because the creators of this realm said that it's unfair."
If you want to have a setting where mages are allowed to wear heavy armor, but they don't (want to), then you have several options, too. You can go the D&D route of saying that heavy armor restricts the spellcaster's movements (or flow of magic), giving each spell a considerable chance to fail. You can say that a mage can enchant their gear to the kind of toughness that physical fighters wear, making it unnecessary for them to wear more than everyday clothing. You can even say that magic comes from a divine or otherwise sentient source that doesn't lend itself to anyone who's not wearing the traditional garbs.
As a side note, last I checked magic and heavy armor was pretty much the best possible combination to use for both Skyrim and Dark Souls.
Exactly, like I said, just slapping a restriction on there without logic isn't a very good way of doing it.
And if the mundane characters really arent mundane, because they have physical superpowers...Then the restriction makes no mechanical sense either.
But take multiclassing for example.
It's the "jack of all trades, master of none" kind of deal.
Supposedly for balance reasons, they have more options, but they are not experts in either field.
But if they are just plain "master of all trades" with no drawbacks, why would anyone ever choose to focus on just one thing, and loose out on options?
And for sure, you could say that magic+armor is better than anything in this game. I would not prefere that setting, but that doesnt mean it's wrong and bad. Just not for me.
I tend to like games where the different classes have defined roles, and the mage usually falls into the "glass cannon" category there.
If we simply hand wave the armor restriction away in such a system, then what remains is a cannon.
And noone wants to bring a sword to a cannon fight.
Fighters typically have "superhuman abilities" - yes, but they generally cannot do things that humans cannot do. They do things that humans do - to a superhuman degree.
Mages/Sorcerors get to do things that are completely impossible for humans to do.
The reasoning typically given for no heavy armor for mages is that metal armor inhibits the movement of mages needed to properly cast and aim spells - as well as metals having adverse effects on the formation of those spells.
They generally can't hold a weapon while casting spells because it requires them to move their hands in specific ways - basically like naruto hand signs - but D&D nondescript version. lol.
Generally speaking - most of the other things you mentioned are also done. Magic damage scaled down from what it "could" be - fighter abilities scaled up to superhuman degrees, etc.
Magic in Skyrim for example is very under-powered compared to other forms of damage. Now granted - no matter what you go with - some form of "magic" will generally be involved in your equipment, or using shouts - but as far as damage goes in skyrim there is not a single way to increase your spell damage in the base game - but you can scale the damage of melee and archery up to absurd degrees if you really want to - enchanted equipment and the like. There is no enchantment or skill to boost a spells damage or DPS in any way though - just reduce cost and give other various effects like what melee and archery have anyways. both melee and archery both have spells and skills to directly increase damage dealt.
My archer 1 shots everything before it can even move - my mage cannot accomplish this, no matter what is done, it can't one shot much.
I have limited experience with games from the last decade such as Skyrim, mostly because my PC is an old POS.
But to me that seems to indicate a setting where the magic user is not really an adventuring class of character, but much more a working class like a farmer or blacksmith.
Producing the magical equipment that adventurers use.
I could be wrong of course, seeing as I havent played it.
Regardless, the "mechanical balance" is seen again, only in the reverse.
Why would one choose to play a wizard if magic is fairly useless compared to other options such as archery?
(Logically speaking, of course fun and challange of being the underdog are valid resons if one wants that)
And what would be the point of restricting armour for wizards in that setting, other than making them an even weaker choice?
One can imagine a whole bunch of reasons why armor and magic does not cooperate. Magnetism, finger dancing, or otherwise.
But first the creator of the setting had to decide that magic doesnt work in armor in the first place, and why was that?
Probably because the creator wanted warriors to master warrioring, and wizards not so much.
The details such as "magic abilities comes with metal allergies" can be worked out later, just as long as they arent forgotten or brushed aside.
Anders Dahl definitely. It's all about mechanics.
The armor restrictions on wizards in dnd has less to do with appearance than class balance. The wizard is balanced to be a long range crowd control glass cannon. They also have non-linear power growth, such that wizards are the weakest class at low levels, and the strongest at high levels. Making wizards a tank class increases their low level survivability, which makes the class just a bit broken overall. They'd be like clerics, but better.
>glass cannon
You mean, immortal being that's covered by 20 layers of stone skin and the absolute immunity spell?
They're not very weak at low levels compared to other classes, they still can send a magic missle to you, which can one-shot low level characters if you're lucky for a roll, when other classes can suck dick with their unbelievably high THAC0.
Clerics anyway have more (overpowered, let's be honest) buffs and they can kill magic immune enemies in hand to hand combat. Wizard anyway cannot do anything in melee due to his hit rolls, unless he summons a BBOD.
Yeah, I was about to say that as well. The main reason wizards don't need armour is that in DnD they start out with the choice of learning the aptly named "mage armour" spell, which gives them comparable armour class to what warriors would likely start with, in addition to it being magic armour and therefore able to block things that normal warriors can't, and having the force descriptor which means it can block ghost attacks and even certain spells!
On top of that they learn the shield spell which does what it says on the tin, AND automatically blocks the most prevalent level 1 spell with no saving throw needed.
I will agree that Druid is the most overpowered class in the game though. But this stems from the strange niche that their class design seemed to have been tried to push them into. Druids are the generic toolkit character that you can fit into any party and still have them do well, it's just that for some reason they do most if not all of these roles as well or even better than the characters dedicated to specializing in them! And in the cases they do not, they still win out thanks to their ability to do all the other things.
"I can cast spells, I can fight in melee combat, I have useful skills, I have a pet and if all else fails I can turn into a bird and fly away!"
Yeah man, wizards only seek to gain power through decades of study, through dark rituals, through dealing with demonic forces, through blood sacrifice, through mind affecting spells, and possibly through political maneuvering.. But NEVER through wearing armor, THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR!
Seriously, imagine if you told the most power hungry wizard in your fantasy world that the only reason he's not wearing armor is because it's more fair for others that way. Imagine his reaction.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, you need an in-game reason. "Balance" is a terrible world building tool.
Wizards in armor are too slow to eventually avoid the foes.
Going from some hazy memory. The reason gandalf uses his shield/magic against a balrog and not in other things is because of what he is.
He's not allowed to intervene too heavily in mortal affairs. He could crush an entire orc army in one spell but Éru doesn't allow it, he would have stripped him of his powers otherwise.
However against a creature as powerful as a balrog he's allowed to amp it up a bit because they were direct generals to morgoth himself. It still wasn't his full potential tho.
Basically the mortals needed to prove themselves and not have cheats, but if the enemy cheated then valar would police that.
Funny fact: Balrog was Gandalf...friend :)
The both sang in that same choir XDD
@@WadcaWymiaru yeah but the balrogs , sauron and morgoth didnt want to sing to Eru's sheet music so they were expelled from the choir.
Then they started to make their version of angry gangster rap and became public enemy number one :P
I have this book. Nothing like that.
@@WadcaWymiaru The Ainur "sang in the choir" that created reality while Gandalf, all of the other wizards, the first Elves, and the Balrogs are Maiar. They are essentially demi-gods as they were allowed to help form middle-earth
I believed ainurs created the time (or plot) when sang.
However when they descend on the world, they become Valars and Maiars. (from power and love/friend i believe)
As a massive consumer of fan fictions, I've seen at least a dozen theories on why the harry potter universe doesn't use firearms. These range from it being a social stigma,(one of the more sensible theories) or wizards not noticing that firearms have advanced past muskets(despite fighting WWII/Grindiwalds war), to protection spells rendering fire power worthless(despite a decent shot being able to kill them before they got out the first word of an incantation, let alone snipers shooting from a mile away). My favorite is that Voldemort, a muggle raised half blood who knows of modern firearms, follows a system of, if I remember correctly, "second strike escalation", in which he doesn't use a technology until it has been used against him. Thus if anyone used modern firearms against his forces, he would equip them with firearms, if gas was used against him, he would then use gas, and etcetera. Thus firearms were avoided so as to not escalate things further, the logical problem with this is that after his "death", criminal elements would likely begin using firearms, and so law enforcement would have to as well.
Why don't they use guns in Harry Potter? Because it's set in the UK.
I believe it has something to do with a disdain and relative disinterest in muggle things in the setting. Wizards believe wands to be a far more lethal weapon then guns. Which Sirius Black actually takes advantage of when attempting an assassination. The book didn't devote much to it, but it certainly was considered one of the most frightening things about Sirius being on the loose.
Really, I expect wizards in the setting would be taken aback by a lot of the modern conventional weapons, if any of them cared to learn.
yeah Im pretty sure that national guard could have faced of voldemort and his gang and totally ass raped them.
I'm sure Hagrid could have gotten a shotgun licence >_>
the thing about guns is they are useless ageist the arrow shield charm (even more unless then an arrow actually as the fast a item moves the more effective the shield as it uses the velocity of the projectile ageist it so slower heavier items where a bigger danger) of course the shield has to be link to a object or cast by the wizard to be of any use and in all likely hood if it not link to a object they have on then you can likely get a shot off before they can cast the shield
Outside UK's gun laws/restrictions, the reason for the lack of guns is that they are easily more dangerous to the owner than the one their fighting. Guns are very easy to rendered useless, as a minor change in the gun(freeze, heat, shrink or enlarge the barrel, transfigure into a snake, hell splash it with water, etc.) and suddenly it is useless or highly dangerous to the person holding it. Also Sirius using a gun is a point of fanon, not canon, thus can't be used as a reference. Another major point against fanfiction that have Harry Potter!Gunmen theme is that a gun, no matter how much ammo it has, has both a breaking point and boiling point. What I mean by boiling point is simple: bullets are launched by micro-explosions within a confined space. Explosions, as they are more often than not, causes heat and recoil in the gun. This in turn causes the gun to heat up as the energy from the explosion is imparted into the metal around it. More often than not a gun doesn't have enough ammo in it to cause this to happen simply due to its size, but making it a bottomless clip infinite ammo gun changes that drastically. This leads to the second problem most don't think about: the breaking point.
Guns require constant maintenance even when not in use, but especially when in use both in terms of replacement parts and cleaning. After all, a gun is simply a directed explosion with a piece of shrapnel in front of said explosion. Heat and the force behind said explosion will warp the barrel, the firing pin will wear down and break, the casings will jam. Doing the hand wave of making it indestructible(through runes especially, as those are structural weaknesses in the gun) would also render a gun useless, as parts are designed with the purpose of wearing down in mind. Like turning water into oxygen, you can't do that if the bonds between the Oxygen and Hydrogen atoms can't be broken apart.
In the end, a mundane gun can't be retrofitted into a magical gun, you have to craft an entirely magical gun in order to make it worthwhile(which, I will note, is why most magical guns in anime look like revolvers or look like something sci-fi like the Caster gun from Outlaw Star). Then you have to look at how fast spell casters can be and what spells can defeat guns. For example in the final battle for Hogwarts(which I for one found incredibly one sided and hopelessly pitiful), Shacklebolt casts a spell at a rapidly approaching death eater than just busted through the window/walls, which in turn freezes everything coming from that direction as though frozen in time before blasting it back the way it came. This is the Impediment spell, that impedes motion/kinetic(not spells) energy. Dumbledore could have used this spell against Voldemort's glass shards attack, though that would have left the glass shards in play or allowed Voldemort to use other spells to set the glass in motion again. Grown(competent) wizards can cast most spells they know non-verbally and with very little time needed. I find one of the biggest offenders(story wise) in terms of Muggle/NoMaj superiority over Magicals/Mages is the story Voyage of the Starship Hedwig. Mainly because it isn't purely NoMaj versus Magi, but NoMaj enhanced by Muggleborn(who mysteriously don't participate on either side and never show up in story). He then proceeds to lay an utter smackdown on the Magicals even after they leave Earth behind.
The norse god Odin has many names some of those are "the wandering wizard" or "the gray wizard" He is the inventor of magic and the creator of the runes which are magical so you could say he is the original gandalf.. He carries with him the magical spear Gungnir and he uses it not only as a spear but also a magical staff from where he directs his magic :)
ᚹᛚᚻᚪᛋᛏᚪᛚᛅᚪᛘ Gandalf was directly inspired by gandalf.
Joel Sasmad uuh
Why are both your names fucked up.
Sounds a bit....suggestive ;)
Well, Tolkien was a solid historian and did translate Beowulf into a English (a version of it, at least), so he would be very intimate with Norse Lore and Mythology.
Well, generally one of the big rules is that iron is the antithesis of magic, so wizards can't use armor or weapons that use iron because it disrupts their magic. I feel like bronze weapons and armor would work. Though for my money, the best defense is bound weapons and armor. Basically gear made from magic that cut and protect like iron but weighs nothing.
Extra detail: This comes from iron being said to disrupt a witches magic in certain cultures. Other cultures took silver for the metal to do so. This may have to do with silver's antibacterial properties being misunderstood
@@mezz09smezzanine Also silver represents purity in most cultures, and thus is used by holy agents as a weapon against evil, such as using silver bullets against werewolves and such
@@spiritvdc5109 Apparently, it works like a charm against Werecreatures, especially the Lycans.
I always thought it was wood that protected against magic. Granted that's a runescape thing. Other than that, anything enchanted might work.
What about titanium armour?
Ah, how to get away with carrying a poleaxe anywhere (in period)! Carry 10 of them! Just make sure to complain and grumble about your job as a porter.
There was almost never any restrictions on carrying weapons (or weapon types) in medival times. There was a handful of cities that banned them who had a large soldier presence in the city, but even swords would have included in that ban. Shad actually covers this very topic in great depth in 1 stream.
@@srobeck77 It's also legal for people to openly carry Assault Rifles and body armor in the USA.
It still terrifies everyone who sees them and causes the authorities to interact or watch their every move, with their weapons at the ready.
Try to go to a restaurant with full body armor and an assault rifle, while every single customer leaves in fear (rightfully) or complains to the manager.
It isn't unrestricted to carry around weapons of war. Even if it isnt illegal.
@@nowayjosedaniel id be more terrorified of your ignorance and thinking youd be safer in unarmed countries like China and Russia without anyway to fight back at ruthless governmemts
You know what else is made out of a length of wood you point at things as a part of a weapon? A crossbow stock. Combine it with a wand(or tape it to the bottom if the wand needs to be a specific shape) and you suddenly have a decide that shoots both bolts and fireballs.
Asehujiko I see no reason why you couldn't make a crossbow stock out of wand-quality wood and fit a wand core inside it. Do you think the handle of Godric Gryffindor's sword was of a similar construction?
Nillie Huh, I never thought of that.
Magical crossbows usually are augmentated to create energy bolts, to steady the weapon, to reduce weight, or to ease reloading. However, when it comes to magical arms, the bow part is foregone completely and the shot just fired magically instead. But they rarely use projectiles, as those are even more limited by ammo capacity than magical shots.
Think about it: Why carry a metric ton of heavy bolts if you can get the same by stocking a belt or pouch full of magical crystals that slot into your boomstick?
If you can create what basically amounts to a magical sniper/assault rifle combo, you wouldn't settle for an unwieldy, slow-firing crossbow with strong feedback and bending parts.
the only issue there is the wand end would specifically have to be right at the front or poking out slightly, otherwise a spell being cast puts the non-magic parts of the weapon at risk. otherwise, i see no issue with that.
I think I've seen this in a D&D supplement - a crossbow with sockets for holding wands as well. Which would work well for D&D wands, which are pretty much a point-and-invoke affair. Might be too cumbersome for systems where rapid movement of the wand is needed to cast a spell, though.
I certainly was thinking that a crossbow would probably be an appropriate weapon for the typical wizard or sorcerer. Keeps you away from the fighting, doesn't require as much physical strength to be effective as bows or melee weapons, and pointing and shooting a crossbow probably isn't that much different to pointing and shooting a magical beam or projectile (except that the bolt is probably more subject to outside factors like wind and gravity).
"He's the most interesting man in the world"
"I don't always critique fantasy castles, but when I do, I prefer MATCHICOLATIONS!!!!!!!"
A wizard would use a teenager as a weapon, just ask Dumbledore.
Or midgets, they work too.
Steel Xcaliber Hormone filled midgets going through emo fases shall end all the evil of this world!
You never... toss... a dwarf! You hurl a dwarf! There's a difference!
Not always true. A favorite tactic a party of mine had was to cast bull's strength on the normal sized Barb or Fighter. The Frenzied Berzerker Dwarf was then Hurled(or bowled depending) into a pack or enemies.
Dumbledore 2017: Why use your own magical energy when you could exploit Child Labor!!!
11:05 YES PLEASE!
sword wands is a really cool idea.
However some magical systems that require wands also require precise movements of them (as is the case in Harry Potter) having your wand also be a sword would prolong casting time as its a bit more cumbersome to complete the movements.
"See that man over there, the one with the long white beard, the long robes and the pointy hat. Yes, the one that looks like a wizard, that is probably just a walking stick in his hand."
"Yeah, totally just an innocent walking stick, let's not try to take it away from him though, if we do he will turn us into frogs."
Trying to make a wizardstaff look less like a powerful weapon would probably work better if you have a shave, ditch the pointy hat and wear normal clothes.
For a D&D setting it all depends on how common the class is. In a typical (high-magic) setting, a staff isn't fooling anyone. Whereas in LotR most people had never seen a wizard.
True, but "a defenceless old man" in the company of three very formidable and strange looking warriors ought to stand out regardless. Any group containing Gimly and Legolas would stand out in a human society. Especially since it is common knowledge that dwarves and elfs hate each other. And Gandalf even seems to be in charge.
Imagine yourself if you saw a group of people walking trough your local mall and three of them were Mike Tyson, Bruce lee and Peter Dinklage, all of them carrying assault rifles. Wouldn't you think that was suspicious and be a bit wary of the fourth person in that group, especially if he was their leader?
One of your pictures was of Harry Dresden, and he would get along with you on this point so well. His trench coat is enchanted to be better than plate armor (never mind the robes his peers are rocking), he carries a hand gun with him everywhere, is not afraid to punch a dude in the face if need be, and his specialty use "Earth Magic" cane is the sheath of a fencing *Sword Cane*.
Not to mention his blasting rod and shield bracelet
well, he's not the only one to do this stuff there. his teacher dropped a decommissioned satellite on a guy. from orbit.
what series is this from?
"The Dresden Files" by Jim Butcher
Yal Rathol To be fair though, the fucker REALLY deserved it.
I was laughing because I am writing, I do use wands and staffs, were you have Formal, and Military variants. Also my roommate is laughing at the harry potter quote because he said "I brought a 9mm and a 308 to hogwarts... I no longer have to go to defense against the dark arts."
9mm... 308... not the Luger P08 9mm though?
Nigel Black May I remind you that the _Harry Potter_ series is set in the UK? On the other hand, I wouldn't be too surprised if someone tried it at Ilvermorny, the main wizarding school in North America.
I know it is set in the U.K. I am from Northern Ireland, I happen to be in america at the moment with my roommate that is american.
Merlin from F/GO preferred to use Excalibur instead of his staff, he says that 'it's difficult to fast-cast a spell without making a mistake'
My favourite role playing game (Midgard, the oldest German Pen&Paper RPG) explains it quite well, why wizards cannot use metal armour in its particular setting.
1. The typical arcane magic and the life force magic of the druids rely heavily on chaotic energies flowing in and out of the sorcerer. Metal is a heavily structured material that inhibits the flow of magic. Also, a breastplate alone is also not that bad, even though it makes some problems. Helmets and gloves are far worse. Also, religious reasons prohibit the use of forged metal for druids.
2. There are three types of spells: Thought, Word and Gesture. To perform a spell of the gesture type, you need two free hands. An exception can be made if you have a so called thaumagral, a certain magical item made only for you that can alter specific spells you imbue it with.
3. There is magic that is unaffected by armour: miracles. Priests and paladins can wear armour and still use their magic, because it does not flow directly out of their body but comes from their deities. They of course have other restrictions like the code they live by and they can lose their magic completely if they manage to severely piss off their god. The one exception here are the shamans. These can actually cast miracles as well (they just do not have deities, but nature spirits instead) but a metal armour would feel to them like being cut off from nature. So, they cannot use it for psychological reasons.
it's kind of ironic that metal interferes with magic, considering steel is a highly conductive material in general.
So Mental, Verbal, and Somatic are how they cast spells?
@@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 in his game yes. I noticed Harry potter realm requires all 3 for MOST spells: A specific gesture with hand and wand + speaking a certain string of words + thought/ focus. As an example, The Patronus (Harry summons a Stag to ward off the Dementors) requires the strongest mental thought/ focus.
That Gandalf with a halberd looks amaz... i mean interesting.
As far as "weaponize magical objects," the closest thing I have seen is the Bloodskal Blade in Skyrim. It can be used to shoot magic, or used as a normal sword.
I love the mental image of Gandalf saying "you wouldn't part an old man from his walking stick" while attempting to carry a goddamn halberd into the throne room.
I had this idea since forever but since I can't make 3d models.
In dragon age 2 and Inquisition mages also have short blades on one end (usually the oposite end of the magical focus) of their staves. In Inquisition they don't see any actual use, but if a mage in DA2 was fighting in melee, he would use a different animation set where he primarily fights with the blade.
any wizard worth their wand can conjour a mini gun. 'nuff said.
*Conjuroration increased to ∞*
I may know a gal. Because a sorceress conjuring a minigun is absolutely something I've actually seen.
*revs up a minigun*
"Parry this, you filthy casual!"
"make the magic staff/ wand as a weapon"
Viren: * laughs in The Dragon Prince *
Also: Blue Flame from Dark Souls 2 (a sword that is also a sorcery catalyst); or the Tinder pole from Dark souls 3 (a pole arm and a sorcery catalyst)
In the Inheritance Cycle, people who do magic are drained of energy. The more magic they use or the more complicated spells they use, the faster they become tired. In the books, one could "store" energy in gemstones and access it during battle when they were low on energy to continue using magic or just to participate in traditional combat. If one attempted a spell beyond their capabilities, it could kill them. So essentially, you have to build up an endurance to use magic.
Sort of. Casting a spell in Eragon drains the same amount of energy as actually performing that feat yourself. You're right about everything else.
@@matthewmuir8884 so what's the in universe explanation for even bothering to learn magic?
@zeldaknight101 well, for one thing, it saves time. You can levitate an entire pile of debris to the side almost instantly for the same amount of energy it would take to move each piece one-by-one. It also means you can replenish your water supply by bringing ground water to the surface for comparatively small effort (as you're not having to dig all the way down to the groundwater). Both of these are examples from the books, and they just scratch the surface.
As the original commenter said, you can also store energy in gemstones to act as a buffer.
@@matthewmuir8884 looks like. I got some reading to do. Thanks
in the Shannara books druids work almost the same: using magic takes a toll on their life energy, and after a while they're forced into a sort of magical hybernation that lasts years if not decades to replenish
My favorite mage staff id ever seen was this one staff in dragon age 2 that was pretty much a spear. It was pretty much like shad was describing, except the "magic end" and the "blade end" were on opposite ends. It made the fighting look really cool tho. Basically slash, magic ball, slash, magic ball, slash. To me it also brought into light the prospect of a sort of a "magic martial arts"
I wonder what shads opinion is on the practicality of the "blade end" and "magic end" being on the same end vs. them being on opposite ends of the pole arm/staff.
Because Gandalf uses the staff as a walking stick, and touching the ground wouldn't be good for the magic end or the spear point.
You could always have blade end sheathed outside of battle. Historically people used walking sticks with concealed blade inside them, you could do something similar to that on mage staff. And if it's supposed to serve as battlefield class weapon, you can just sheath it without concealing it, and just have wooden sheath on the blade, maybe with some metal added at the end to increase lifespan of said sheath.
It would be more difficult on axe/hammer-heads than spearhead, but well... you don't usually carry halberd with you on day to day basis, and taking away walking stick functionality from mage staff for the battle isn't that big of a deal.
Another option would be to add metal spikes on the staff, and make it into long spiked club, it could retain it's walking stick properties, and it wouldn't add that much weight to it, also avoiding intruding into main part of the stuff with metal parts, which could render mage staff useless in some fantasy settings.
There's a really old game called Dungeon Siege. I've been playing it recently and it's quite cool in that regard. You start with basic quarterstaffs and once you advance, the staffs have a more and more weaponlike look. Somewhere in midgame you get some really special and important staff for the story and it's more or less a Trident. I really like that.
It may matter for a given magical system that the "magic end" of the staff is exposed and can be pointed at your opponent, but a bayonet style blade could still be attached.
Cheap Thought staff of parlathan if I remember correctly.
Interesting
Inaset but what about dragons
Very interesting....
ugh i fucking knew if i scrolled down this would be the top comment, low hanging fruit buddy !
indeed
Interestingly low-hanging fruit...
can you see through Gandalf's robe? I always assumed he wore mithril!
Getting REALLY late to this topic, but if i remember correctly, gandalf does get some fancy armor from the dwarves in lonely mountain. But as it is stated by himself in movie/book 2 of tlotr, no mortal weapons can really damage him anymore. Before that, well, he is a entity more powerful than men, elves, dwarves, orcs and similar by nature.
Like Pedro said, Gandalf the White can’t be harmed by anyone in ME, except for Sauron, so he has no need for armor.
But Gandalf the Grey didn’t wear any armor either, especially a mithril shirt. Mithril is reaaaaly rare and Gandalf isn’t wealthy, many characters even say he looks like a beggar/wanderer.
Nah, he just has Mithrandir under his robe.
I was literally just checking to see if he'd made another one of these videos about half an hour ago. Thanks Shad.
In many systems it is the metal itself that interrupts the magic. Many say that Iron or Steel interrupts the flow of magic and can nullify the spells. So armor or swords would keep the spell from forming. Not all magic systems have this restriction, but it is very common. One great example of a magic user that still has a sword and armor is The Wheel Of Time. Rand al'Thor uses a sword to a great degree, but he is the most badass magic user in that series. It depends if the system has metal or material restrictions on the flow of magic.
Bronze makes decent weapons if you can't use steel.
And often silver is considered good for magic flow, so maybe silver weapons? Not as good as steel, but better than nothing in a pinch.
I think silver is to soft to make anything much bigger than a knife, but as you say, much better than nothing.
Or you could have a blunt silver weapon like a mace or warhammer with a wooden handle.
Well... Seeing that the staffs was given to the five magicians by the Valars who sent them to middle earth in the year 1000 of the first age I guess the Valars didn't foresee that the magicians would have use for a staff weapon several thousand years later.
Well there are a great number of non metallic materials that can be used for weapons.
Some tropical timber can be as hard as iron if the carpenter knows what he is doing.
Or stonemaces which where common in the pacific area.
But the best weapon in case of metal restrictions is a blade made of magically reinforced obsidian.
Obsidianblades are by far sharper than Steel ones, their only flaw is that they splinter fast.
I think Dragonlance (D&D and Fantasy) had a good take on it. Wizards originally in the setting could carry staves (for use in magic more then combat) but no other weapons because of tradition and mind sets of wizards are to dedicate themselves to the art not weapons (fighter wizards do exist and are looked down on in the setting and again they are looked down on because they split their time between mastering weapons and casting spells instead of dedicating themselves to magic). Also in universe the wizards were explicitly eventually allowed to carry a dagger as well. Reason? A wizard got captured because he ran out of spells and had nothing to defend himself with. I think it made sense because it was more cultural and tradition then "no they just can't do it."
Even better they add a practical knightly order that goes "eff the tradition we're going with practical shit" and put their mages in full plate with swords.
Totally agree with you. Any weapon requires training, which consumes time. For a wizard, that time must be only be consumed in arcane studies. It's not just a matter of narrow-mindedness, it's just that magic (in settings like Dragonlance, at least) is too damn hard.
There was a kids' series I read that had something similar. Wizards were under various social restrictions because "people fear magic enough already, if we went armed or held noble titles they'd start thinking about witch hunts".
A wizard?
You mean one of the greatest and most renown wizards to ever live, friend of Huma Dragonsbane the wounder (is that a word?) Of Takhisis
Lol, now that bit is done...
They were allowed small weapons such as daggers because if Magius had had one he would have been able to escape from his capture.
My d&d wizard once just smacked somebody with the stick. So what stops a wizard from using his staff as a bo staff
*NOTHING*
Affix a jarring crystal to the top and bash in their skull!
Sharpen the butt of you staff and skewer your enemies!
Sharpen your wand and stake it into their sockets!
Unlesh your inner warrior!
and this is how Harry Dresden came into being
Low base attack bonus and lack of feat support. Plus, D&D tends to hate staves, at least the editions I've played up to (3.5/Pathfinder).
@@Qaianna Well, in 5e, it's 1d8+ strength mod, or 1d10 if using it with two hands. So, if you used certain races who could dump dexterity - such as the turtle/tortoise-like tortle, which has a flat natural AC of 17 - you could come up with an Oogway look-alike that can bash heads and blast away with fireball. Also, in a pinch, acts like Emergency Tank when the Paladin, Barbarian, strength-based Fighter, or Heavy Armor Proficient Cleric, is low on health, and the Druid is out of Wild Shapes.
According to Harry Potter lore: The question of why a wizard would need a sword, though often asked, is easily answered. In the days before the International Statute of Secrecy, when wizards mingled freely with Muggles, they would use swords to defend themselves just as often as wands. Indeed, it was considered unsporting to use a wand against a Muggle sword (which is not to say it was never done). Many gifted wizards were also accomplished duellists in the conventional sense, Gryffindor among them."
So basically, I guess they don't carry guns because modern british people don't. Sill doesn't explain why the bad guys don't though.
Owlman145 The answer to your last question is that the bad guys are bigots who think everything Muggle-made is inferior.
"the bad guys"
Murican "muh constitooshun" detected.
if it was set here in the states they would use guns.. no way around it. .. have you ever seen the parody where harry gets sent to the states instead of growing up in england.. its the first thing he does. buys a desert eagle and says this is much better :D
NERRRRRRRRRD :P
Rossta 888
What's it called?
So wizard with a staff with a spear on top, chain mail or gambeson underneath his robes, and a dagger or sword in case they run out of magic. I have some ideas for my Skyrim character.
Trey Shipman well you got those witchhunter/battlemages. They wear wizard robes with heavy steel gauntlets and boots and often carry axes
Wizards should ride centaurs. It makes 100% sense.
King of Uruk Gilgamesh : I am quite sure that the centaurs would object. They are not beasts of burden.
I like your name :)
In facts, the centaur would use the wizard as a magic shield/weapon
iamedbytes Yeah the Centaur mount enterprise has never been the same ever since the Centaurs took affirmative action and been pickiting on the main roads.
If wizards could somehow make an alliance with centaurs that is profitable on both sides I think that could work.
Why didn't Harry Potter use guns? He's in Britain, are you kidding? They're lucky if they're even allowed knives or milkshakes.
Mr dudly has a shotgun...
@@stereotypicalswede9132 the movie left out the scene where the Bobby stepped out of the water like the terminator and asked if he had a loicense for that m8?
Imagine harry in the middle of a battle just yelling "Accio handgun." That would end the series in like 4 books
Is that supposed to be mocking Britain? because if it is I took that personally.
@@ianrodabaugh4674 I never thought I'd find myself asking what sort of gun Harry Potter would have. Probably just a Glock, or M&P. He seems like the type of person who would use something that bland. Not saying those are bad guns, they're great if care about nothing but functionality and you don't want to pay an obscene price for an H&K or Walther, but they are pretty boring
I'm still waiting on that *"A PROPAH CAHSSLE"* t-shirt mate.
Sounds interesting.
*WITH A PROPAH GATEHOUSE*
With phropah *MACHICULATIONS*
*MACHICULATIOOOOOOOOONS* !!11!
Swordwand pommels for that magical rightous ending
Enchanted pommels that magically comes back \o/
At high speed D:
To end you rightly too T_T
Killer pommels gone wild flying around everywhere, end of civilisation.
Only DRAGONS remain, before anyone asks.
A sacred hand grenade, for use against the foulest of beasts.
And the number of the counting shall be three.
audiophilekeys Thou shall not say 2, except in precedence of 3.
That opening shirt ad had me rolling on the floor, fucking solid marketing.
Great video, bit late to the party but making my way through the videos. Just a few things i have noticed...
In Harry Potter, Hagrid could cast magic via his umbrella thus making people believe Dumbledore repaired Hagrid's wand and either hid it or built it into the umbrella for discreet reasons (Hagrid was expelled and forbidden to use magic) so building a wand into weapons seems plausible.
In D&D 5th, wands and staffs act as a spell casting focus but there are some classes such as the College of Sword Bards, who can use their sword to act as a spell casting focus. But if the spell requires the wave of a wand then waving a sword might be both awkward but deadly...
Another thing could be, is that many magic folk might have blind faith in their spells and cling to their staffs so neglect physical and martial training, but doesn't mean they can't.
My DM lets wizards use their staff as a bow staff and their wand as a club
Also in 5e, wizards have infinite access to low power spells.
If you can always shoot a firebolt at someone, you don't need a real weapon outside of fringe cases.
You design the absolute best T shirts
The reason Gandalf does not wear armor is because when leaving to middle earth the Miarar adopted less imposing roles. The adopted power through counciling and not brutal force. This explains why Gandalf was not wearing armor
ted bonetti and probably because he is more or less immortal anyway...Orks or humans aren't close to his power level,he's basically bashing noobs all the time
Except when fighting the balrog
This actually remind me of a character my friend created in D&D. His wand was the handle of his short sword. When he neede magic he held the weapon in it's sheath and pointed the swords handle at the foe, while when he needed the sword he just drew it.
I think a big reason mages don’t wear armor is because they really don’t need it. Just like bowmen don’t need full plate armor: they fight at long range. Mages and wizards presumably fight at med-long range so they wouldn’t need heavy cumbersome armor like a warrior would. Having all that armor would be heavy, restrictive and uncomfortable. Using spells probably requires concentration, so they’d want to be as comfortable and light as possible. Robes are extremely comfortable and light.
they also typically aren’t allowed to use many weapons because of balance in games, but realistically it’d be because they wouldn’t be trained to use them. Magic takes a lot of training and studying, so they wouldn’t have much time to also train and master using other weapons passed a basic level. they probably wouldn’t be that physically strong because magic doesn’t require strength, so their weapon choice would be limited and their impact damage would be lower.
against somebody proficient in magic as well, armor would be useless. you're not dealing with human forces places on hard weapons against your body, no. you're dealing with the utter forces of the universe, you're having literal meteors flung at you.
@@yeen.7209 adding to this, it's usually a _lot_ easier to apply magical enchantments to cloth than metal, meaning that a cloak or robe often _is_ the best protection against enemy magic
granted, this sorta means the best way to kit yourself out as a wizard would be a cloak that wards against magic over light armor that's _effective against arrows,_ because, yeah, all the anti-magic defenses in the world still have a gaping hole in them if magic's not the only form of ranged combat out there
Now I have an image in my head of Dumbledore holding an AK.
Tusalak The Sandwich King : Rpg, now that is a propah weapon.
I love the music in the background!
Please consider doing the Dawnguard castle from the Syrim: Dawnguard DLC.
Or Castle Volkihar!
If I recall correctly, Fort Dawnguard may even have... MACHICOLATIONS!!!!!!!!!!
It does have machicolations but they're closed off.
Pizzalover123 volkihar would be fun. Since it's inhabited by vampires of course.
SpazzyMcGee1337
Man that would be great, both the Dawnguard and Castle Volkihar. Both seem to have excellent fortifications/hard to get to.
"if Gandalf can use a weapon any wizard can"
That is kind of false, because Gandalf isn't just an old guy with a stick
He is an Ainur (an angel like being) so his physical capabilities are beyond that of humans and this allows him to use weapons to a much better degree than just an old guy
Magic also comes naturally to him, so he is capable of fighting melee while also using magic effectively, while other wizards usually have to concentrate on the spells so that they can't use a sword at the same time
So Gandalf "forgot" how to ever use offensive magic throughout at 6 movies and instead opted to become a melee warrior the entire time because he embued his body with strength instead? Ya that's just stupid. Making fireball would have been far more obvious to do. (Nothing in the books or movie suggested he was a magically infused warrior btw).
In reality, the director Peter Jackson disliked the notion of using magic so much so that prefered to go down the ridiculous plot that Gandalf is a front line melee warrior and was actually very weak at magic (unless you count that time he used his staff to temporarily blind a dragon like a spotlight).
@@srobeck77 Nothing in the books suggest he was a magically infused warrior? Where did you read the books lmao. Gandalf was sent to guide the peoples of middle earth and was forbidden of solving their problems himself. Even the movies see him throw lightning bolts when fighting the balrog
@@lukec2004 your logic still doesnt make any sense as Gandy "solved problems" by killing dozens of orcs with his swords as a melee knight. So you think Gandy found a "loophole" by not fireballing them instead? I dont buy it....
@@srobeck77 Gandalf was still allowed to kill orcs, but he wasn't supposed to make a huge difference. He used the sword in the movie because it kept his magic vague while not making him look useless.
@@lukec2004 ok but thats still an incorrection "loophole". By decimating rows of Orcs with his sword, Gandy was slaying as much as top tier warriors, so a "huge difference" was in fact, made by him. Not to mention, the "selective times" Gandy did use magic to kill or stun dragons.
Plus, the "You shalt not pass moment" when Gandy used magic to get past the demon that would have wiped everyone out. That alone destroys this "loophole" theory that he only did small acts.
That's how you do an intro, Shad! :D
I'm glad I'm not the only one who wonders why the wizards in Harry Potter don't use guns. Thank you Shad for justifying those thoughts.
Mithrawnudo I've had the same thought. A .357 would likely screw up a wizard pretty good.
I was thinking something with larger magazine capacity, since it's conceivable that some sort of magic barrier might have to be overcome. Of course if it's an ambush and you're expecting to catch the wizard off guard, a .357 would lay them out instantly.
Of course if you're going to be assaulting a group of wizards, I'd like a military grade weaponry. I mean, if Hogwarts had some Browning .30 or .50 cal emplacements and the occasional 40mm grenade launcher they could have probably fought off the Death Eaters no problem.
I have thought this for years. The battle for Hogwarts would have been a lot shorter if a guy with a rifle posted up somewhere and gave Voldemort a new hole in the head. One of the groups I'm in on Facebook had a discussion about this yesterday, actually. One guy posted a pic of Harry using a spell called automat kaleshnikova.
Lol, I'd like to see that movie.
This is why I'm a big fan of the Dresden Files book series. He's a modern day wizard of immense power, and rapidly approaching the level of immortality, but still keeps a .38 special on him because sometimes shooting a demon in the face surprises them long enough for you to save the day.
Mithrawnudo even if [REASONS] make conventional weaponry useless, why cant they channel magic into the bullets? Bullets fly faster than the spells.
Wands, especially Harry Potter wands, are more designed for precise movements in spellcasting. You have to do specific maneuvers with the wand, along with the verbal spell, to cast magic. In that world, adding more weight to the wand would make it less effective at wizarding duels, since your opponents could generally get their spells off quicker, before you could counter cast.
so the gun is an even better idea then.
dagger-wands?
But why not have a backup weapon? If not a pistol then why not a second wand?
I know that wands are personal and that a backup wand will be less powerful, but a less good weapon is much better than nothing if you get disarmed.
Maybe you could build a Wand with a bladed/spiked hand guard, like a Trench Knife, or just a rapier/saber style basket hilt. The hand guard would affect your dexterity minimally and give you some minor defense... AND if a guy charges you before you get the chance to start/finish your spell, you can deck him upside the head for serious damage!
If I needed some sort of excuse for urban wizards not to use guns it could be that they could be easily countered by a simple passive spell that prevents the ignition of a gunpowder.
a fire suppression aura would actually be super OP in a world with magic and firearms O.o
Their wizards. You don't think they would prepare for that with an enchantment of some kind that makes it impossible for magic to effect it's firing. Sure your reliant upon the source of ammunition but it is effectively your most reliable weapon.
I'd also say modern wizards would also carry a sword and an insane amount of ammunition in a magical bag along with some enchanted combat armour for when they need that extra layer of protection.
Also an invisibility cloak and a dagger for the ultimate ninja, wizard, gunslinger, swordsman combination.
@@ahel4523 let's be honest, the only reason that combination isn't used is for story balance purposes xDD magic is OP
@@spiritvdc5109
That's the point. If every wizard is OP as they are in most wizarding stories why not accentuate upon the OP do it's logical when Mcguffin the Brave comes in with the same load out++ and the ultimate armour spell (plot armour) our hero becomes so majorly OP that it's only a matter of time before all enemies bow down to them.
Like in fire force there was a wizard that could control his bullets by burning the gun powder to make the bullets go where he wanted and hit with a certain force. He could also control other people’s bullets
Personally, my preferred homebrew reason for why you don't see casters in armor has to do with the connection to Fae and the effects of cold iron. Certain types of metals and processed alloys and materials naturally have anti-magical properties, meaning when worn by a wizard they tend to create feedback and weaken the power of magic. As such, most dedicated casters primarily wear Gambeson underneath their robes and such to ensure proper protection. Further, this also incentivises the use of metal armors by non-magical warriors, since it provides some slight resistance against magic to them, meaning a knight in fullplate with an arquebus is the most dangerous thing to a wizard
That's not to say that magic sers can't wear armor, however any plated armor has to be altered in construction and inlaid with focusing gems and other enchanted materials, meaning that not only in the production of it much more expensive, but overall it also has much less integrity and protectiveness that mundane armors
"has to do with the connection to Fae and the effects of cold iron" This is in several folk mythologies, celtic, anglo-saxon and slavic, at least. Basically those are the mythologies that are most prominent in modern fantasy, so I believe this is best single reason.
Pathfinder Savant could you please give me your sources?
that concept of anti- magic properties of metal seems interesting, given that so many mythological indo-european magic weapons/ítems were made from metal or metal-like substances, like the surdasaná chakrá, the vajra/fulgur, the invisibility helmet, the Gungnir/Poseidon's trident, some celtic spears, the many blessed and cursed swords...
Olhor Rocannon Go back and reread. I said it was for homebrew stuff, as in stuff I'm making up for my own fantasy setting. Meaning there are no sources, and no justification other than me making stuff up for the sake of internal consistency. Literally the first sentence boyo.
Olhor Rocannon
Many sources including some of grims tales list iron or "cold iron" as dangerous to the fae. Lots of these are contradictory of course such as where an iron nail can keep a faery portal open in some stories but locks it shit in others. Try using the sources from
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_in_folklore
And folklorethursday.com/folklore-of-archaeology/ferrous-friend-foe-iron-became-enemy-fairy-folk
Pathfinder Savant usually I go by the you need very precise hand movements and to get materials for your big spell (1k worth of diamonds to cast revive) and since the materials plus your other magical scrolls and staff are already super expensive you can't really afford a good set of armor. As for sword yes you can carry and use them but nowhere as skillful as a warrior or fighter since for you to get magical powers you probably where stuck inside some library for years. And since pc can't be Mary sues in a campaign I tell them they either go magical or sword or go spell blade which is a jack of all trades
A staff is a weapon already tho and there are quite a few martial arts that train people in the use of staves. They are also much more instinctive to use than a polearm or sword so the wizard wouldn't have to really train in its use as a weapon, just hit things hard to get to a safe distance again.
Thank you, I was looking for this comment. Mages are skinny bookworms who already train 25 hours a day for magic. In many lores they are also required to hold their staves to "channel their energy" or whatever, now if they also need to do gestures that leaves them with exactly 0 hands for an extra weapon. We are still talking about humanoid mages, right?
Oh yea, Shad! Don't forget magic weapon buffs as well. In any battlefield scenario, even one competent wizard would be an absolute nightmare, considering his or her role in supporting the troops and/or debuffing the enemy troops!
This was actually really helpful for the book I’m working on, considering how the magic system works.
how harry potter should have ended. Voldemort: I'm going to kill you Harry Potter!, dialogue, Snape: *bang*, oh muggle weapons. Voldemort: *dies*
Nicolas Peters so uncivilized
Thixus lol
"I'd like to introduce our new defense against the dark arts teacher, Professor Gandalf"
"You, SHALL NOT, PASS!!!"
"well that's a little harsh, classes haven't even started yet"
I Love that channel :D
That's how Indiana Jones would do it :-)
I looked up gambeson on Google for a drawing reference, and the fifth picture was Shad.
sixth with me
I'm interested in your interesting shirts... But wait, how interested are your interests in my interests? Isin't this interesting!
Interestception?
What do the dragons have to say about this?
don't forget about the dragons
Suikeina Don't be such a fool to ask the dragons for their word! Do you not know they slumber, and here your calling?! You are all fools, calling upon the wrath of the wyrms, waiting to devour us as they did our ancestors! Flee now before it is to late!!!
The dragons have feelings too! We can't forget about the dragons!
Best shirt so far :D
Gandalfs staff with a retractable spear tip would be dope...bang the end of the staff on the ground, blade pops through the top, how to retract it though...
Magic, OBVIOUSLY. If you can't use magic and you came across this weapon, clearly you're more in need of a spear anyway.
Using it as a walking stick would be annoying
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Here are my thoughts on why no one in Harry Potter uses guns:
1) Most wizards are completely unaware of what guns are or how they function: Throughout the books we see time and time again that most wizards know almost nothing about muggles and muggle technology. Ron's father, an "expert" in muggle technology, has no idea how planes stay up in the air. A wizard newspaper story mentioned that guns are "a wand like thing muggles use to kill each ohter". Later a character calls guns "firelegs". All muggle tech, including guns, are so far outside wizards worldview that most of them won't even think of getting some to use in a fight.
2) The bad guys are anti-muggle racists: Voldemort and his death eaters absolutely hate muggles and everything related to muggles. They want magic to be supreme above all else. If they even knew enough about guns to consider them they would likely conclude that guns are just beneath them.
3) The good guys are teenagers living in the UK: Harry, Ron, and Hermione are ages 11 to 17 in the books. While Harry and Hermione know what guns are, they have no chances to get any guns in books one through six, as they are going to a magic school, and in the seventh book they are on the run from the Voldemort controlled Ministry of Magic. In the UK you can't exactly go into a gun store and buy whatever you like, there is a huge pile of regulations and red tape to get any gun. Maybe they could've stolen some guns from the police with the aid of magic or the invisibility cloak, but remaining hidden, surviving, and hunting down Voldemorts soul shards was a lot more pressing matter.
So killing someone with magic is ok but with guns is it not allowed.
0) Because Rowling can pull anything from her ass to simply say wand are better/why wizard didn't use gun.
@@ikochomi3070 i think a gun would be bether at killing people because you don't need to say anything 🤷🏼♂️
@@einfachnurich4800 I agree
I mean its not a intant win maybe the more skilled wizard could stop you or block it but a pistol would make you instantly cool
A new shirt ey?... BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS!!!
Interesting
What about the dragons on these machicolations? How very interesting...
On the point you made about gandalf not wearing armour, he does. He wears the magical allmighty plotarmour... ;p
also there's always enchanted clothing. I'm sure plenty of wizards use magic to make cloth more durable
but why not use that same spell on armor, making it SUPER durable? because if you're enchanting your armor, why even show up? send the armor. it doesn't need the wearer anymore. and that's when you find yourself fighting enchanted suits of armor.
I don’t have an explanation for weapons, but how I’d explain the lack of armour is that ambient magic (i.e the magic you absorb to replenish your reserves quicker) flows like air, and the denser the material you’re surrounded in is, the more it disrupts this flow. This means that you’ll have exactly the same output in full plate as in robes, but your recovery will be severely crippled. In video game terms this’ll manifest itself as a reduction in MP regen, just as an example.
Sidenote, I’d totally get a halberd-staff. Halberds are my favourite medieval weapon, though I usually go with swords for aesthetic reasons. Kinda hard to get a halberd to work with a ninja-necromancer, you know?
I'm curious why you never brought up knives. It's plausible a wizard could conceal an arming sword among their lower robes but a combat knife at the waist or hidden along forearms is neither particularly anachronistic nor visible. Knives aren't a viable battlefield weapon? They are when you can screw their haft into the top of your staff! The same polearm principle works with hatchets--aside from concealment the weapon would likely have impractical balance. But battlefields don't magically appear from nowhere and properly assembling your spear or glaive could take mere minutes.
Unless there happens to be an ambush or the enemy teleports right in front of you, no they usually don't magically appear. ;)
If I prioritizing being combat ready over looking like a harmless old traveler, then it's halberd time! But it'll be a passable hatchet in a surprise fight.
My thoughts exactly. A bayonette type knife + a way to fix it to your staff = legit bayonette at a fraction of the weight. Plus it's concealable and even useful for daily life.
Well there is the simple factor that in pretty much many situation, if you have to face up a sword, an axe, polearm, or mace, your knife or dagger doesn't give you an advantage, it's cleary an incovenient to fight those with it. The reach pretty much screw you up and the whole "agile and fast" meta that are surrounding the knife is pretty much non existant because sword users are in fact a fast and versatile weapon, so basically the upgraded version of the knife.
But, for sure it's conveniant to still have a knife for basic things when travelling, or even if you got a system to attach it to your magix staff to create a polearm ! This idea is really cool, credits to N20joe for that one.
Eragon actually had gems in Dragon Riders's swords that stored magical energy
sjaws99 Eragon did magic right... Paolini treated magic as energy rather than "stuff".
I think Wands and Staffs are generally channelling items, so incorporating them into a weapon could affect the channelling. Staves especially often have something at the head of them, in some Fantasy worlds these items or features are tuned to produce an effect on the magic channelled through the staff. So converting it into a spear head or poleaxe could disrupt the flow of Magic, depending on the world.
Staffs are ABSOLUTELY NOT fine to use as a weapon, their ususally too dangerous to hit people with; There are some staffs that discharge all their spells into an area of effect around you when broken or damaged, hurting even the one using the staff in the first place.
Hell you might even make a gate to another realm and allow evil things through. Or have all 10 to 50 fireballs discharged at once.
If you break a staff of power you instantly die as the staff detonates like a mini nuke.
Makes me think of athames used in witchcraft. It cuts but can also be used to channel magical energy.
TellmeNinetails now there is an idea, use a staff like a javalin, meant to break on impact. Wands could be fitted like bolts. Launch it into a crowd and watch the fireworks.
In dnd, magical items are supernaturally durable, smacking someone with a staff of fireballs is a perfectly viable alternative to switching weapons
Except you can break them with a strength test. In a fight an enemy could easily sunder your weapon
A wizard's staff has a knob on the end.
Dumbledore approaches Harry and reaches towards him holding a large cloth, ''Harry I entrust my secret weapon to you. It may be the only thing that can kill Voldemort'', he pulls back the cloth and says ''a Glock 17''.
Your Gandalf impression is disturbingly good...
If any old object can be a magic targeting system, then a good thin dagger seems even better than a sword. It's small and light enough to whip around and do your magic motions and stuff, but if someone gets close enough that magic missile just won't do then they're likely also in dagger range. Daggers are far easier to carry then a sword or halbard, doubt get in the way, but are still amply lethal. And you can cut dinner with them, too!
So instead of a swand, I'm thinking a daggand? Or a wangger? Hm, definitely daggand...
Larry Garfield Consider that magick comes from the Fey- Fairy. Iron is poison to the Fey- and so cancels out the magic.
Gray Blackhelm : Silver or Mithril would both make great weapons.
Gray Blackhelm you don't have to base your magic of Celtic beliefs (I think fairys come from the Celtics). Certainly many other cultures have magic, and of course you could always just come up with your own system.
David Craft Also, we don't know where this comes from, being that celtic myths are full of magic weapons made from iron, like cursed swords and powerfull magic spears.
At the very least you could sharpen the end of your wand and have a wooden stake for close combat.
Lets be honest, in a world where magic was common the warriors would be magic users. They would train their mind and body like anyone who wants to be functional.
The truth is good warriors need discipline and willpower so if your magic system has mages that use strong wills rather than extensive knowledge than there is nothing preventing warriors from developing magick.
If anyone can use magic those who don’t but still like to hurt people would tend to gravitate toward undisciplined thugs and Street toughs. They want to beat up civilians, not lose to disciplined warriors.
In most universes that problem solves like "not everyone can wield magic, you need to born with it", like midichlorian thing for Star Wars force users.
one name: warhammer 40k.
Most series that have everyone access to magic deal with that by making everyone can learn but they can learn not exactly the same due to lack of talent or lack of attribute, if not counting individual subject of interest. So most warriors can use magic but they are not used in the same way as mages, in other word, people who become mage usually more focus on large scale strategic spells if not outright practice in academic sphere only in most of the time, on the other hand, people who become magical warrior will get more focus on tactical spell that can be use along with martial art or weapon art in the front line. In some series which divided people on attribute, people who more talent in using magic inwardly (such as body strengthening or clear mind) will be warriors, who more talent in using magic outwardly (sorcery or attack spell) will be mage, some who talent in sacred magic or healing spell or something that dealing with miracle or higher power will be priest, and some who professed in magic both inwardly and outwardly (usually very rare) will be magical knight. And things like these can always be happened even when everyone learned magic from the same institution or the same book, some are just good in somethings and other are just good in others so not everyone can be magical knight.
A sheleighli makes a fine wand. Made from a branch of the blackthorn bush. Hard as iron and usually covered in knobs.
Harry Dresden. You even used his picture. Guns, armor, a blasting wand that doubles as a club. Dresden, man! He gets it.