EU4 Basics | Trade Guide - Part I | Beginner's Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- Trade is one of the most important mechanics in game and yet it is poorly understood by newer players. Here is my attempt to simplify it and present it in a way that makes sense in gameplay.
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I am starting to doubt my intelligence with this game
Yup...
just transfer trade power from the major nodes and whatever god say to you what to do
Haha, don't worry I guess it has nothing to do with your intelligence. EU4 is not so complex, there are in the game a lot of simple abstracted nonsence game elements (as trade goods by example) keeping the game overall mechanism vague. The basics about the EU4 trade mechanism are in fact very simple... there is no trade in the EU4 game world. Having trade goods in EU4 looks nice but are in fact nonsence because the marked prices of the individual trade goods are in all trade centers the same and fixed. There is no market price mechanism based on supply and demand, the developers have scrapped that already long ago out the game because the EU4 game engine can't handle such mechanism realistic enough. What is left is that all trade goods in the trade centers are directly abstracted into money, being taken there to fill the nation treasures directly or being tele transported to other trade centers towards your home trade center. Why to teletransport the money made oversea to your home trade center instead of take it already in the oversea trade centers where your merchants are?
i love your guides has 500 hours still dosent understand trade
"You still with me?"
"Yes."
"What did I just say?"
"Yes."
The greatest advice to someone trying to understand trade is to do 1 thing - hover your cursor over the income/ducats indicator in the top left. See how much money you are making via trade in the pop up? Great! Now, whenever you change anything with trade, give it a month, then check that little number again.
Learning trade really comes down to trial and error if you don't want to explode your head with tables and calculating values and aaaaaaagh *head explodes*. You can learn trade goods, effect of merchants, collecting, directing, light ships, etc. but it all comes down to watching that number in the top left and seeing what you've done improves or reduces your trade income.
I always like trial and error method. I started the game raw and learned it up myself. Yes I was struggling bit but few numbers wouldn't hurt if you want to know a bit detailed so you can have even greater income. Great comment.
Well... if only it were so simple. First of all, your income, and especifically your trade income, varies quite often, sometimes from month to month, depending on many factors; second, the longer is your "chain" of connected nodes, the higher the number of factors to consider, that, like I said, are constantly changing (your events, other nations' events, wars, decisions, static modifiers...). So you may change something (like building a marketplace, adding light ships to protect, moving a merchant, etc) but you won't necesarily see its effects immediately and directly reflected in your income overview. Besides, you need to keep in mind that the ui not always provides accurate info (the best example would be the "assign ships to protect trade" tooltip, which is totally wrong).
You don't need to know every detail about how every calculation is made, but I wouldn't rely on simply tweak things and look at the income overview.
I watched this video and still not figured out a single thing lol
same here dude... this is the hardest game i've ever played. im totally lost
R. W. It’s not too hard to play, takes a bit of learning but you can get the hang of it after a dozen hours
However it is extremely difficult to master
Yep, it’s definitely one of those games where you still learn things even after hundreds and hundreds of hours, it’s a very hard game to master, at least in full. There are a lot of different things that can be mastered individually, but to put every single mechanic together and master the game is very hard
Been playing EU4 for two years I literally didn't know most of this, great video!
Seems like you always make exactly what I'm looking for. Great work
Very well done. I understand trade much better, at last. Thank you!
You need a PhD to play this game
Can you do a video on estates? Like how to choose where to give estates and how to manage them?
Planning a tutorial series for complete beginners. I will discuss Estates there.
@@RadioRes When are we getting this!!??!!! Would love to see one. :)
Way better than Reman's guide, and that's saying something. His video was a confusing mess of jargon compared to this. Brilliant job!
Great content. Thanks for this!
Great work!
One slight correction for 2:33. It is actually possible to change the trade good of one or more of your own provinces as a result of events, primarily the price change events which you can try to plan for, but also unique events for certain nations such as the Netherlands who will almost always find the province of Amsterdam changing production from cloth to paper in the 16th century. Finally there is also the decision to abolish slavery which will remove the slave trade good from your own provinces and replace it with another good that is appropriate for those provinces.
All of this can be found on the Wiki.
i like myself some spreadsheet action xD love this dude so lovable
thanks for your video. holy shit eu is so complex.
It's not a game, it's a real deal
Very helpful thank you !
i had a headache so i watched this
i came away with a migraine
i didn't expect it to be so complex
"I mean, I love some spreadsheet action myself"
This, sir, is how you earned my sub
Although, it could be argued that a spreadsheet is a very fancy calculator
Have about 500 he's and your guides help clarify keys aspects of the game. I have a good feeling for the game imo, and play multiple mp online paradox games, Victoria 2, hoi4, eu4, a little ck2. But could you give a guide on how to micro wars? Such as when should I siege when should just take little provinces here and there, when should I just chase after the enemies army. When or should I mega blob an army. It would really help.
I've noticed once you reach a certain point in paradox games you understand the macro and the meta but it's the micro that sets aside the knowledgeable players from the good.
Tks to your vid
So, I want to collect in my home node, and transfer in a node that I have a lot of power in?
Yes. Then eventually move the home node to end node, so there's no outgoing trade value.
So if i keep transferring trade power to my main trade province i can gey more money? Is that how it works?
should i send all my light ships in one fleet protecting in the node where they generate the most value, or in small stacks like 5/5/5 or 5/5/10 in the top 3 nodes? the extra benefit of one single fleet would be an admiral.
Like I mentioned in the video, trade is a very dynamic mechanic in game. And it will really depend on how much trade power you have in your node + what other AI is doing in your node, upstream node and downstream nodes. Trial and error is the only way if you want to min-max trade income.
Sorry I had to reupload this one. There was a minor audio error and I had to re-render the whole video. Works better now.
Radio Res can you do a holland tutorial
1:40 Trade Goods
3:49 Trade Nodes
4:57 Trade Power (continues in part 2)
Such a phenomenal topic and coverage. Let me humbly suggest one thing. If you were to speak about 50% the rate you do, it would be a HUGE help. For beginners (or even someone like me who has played a fair amount but found trade to be utterly byzantine), the concepts can be tricky. I found myself stopping a rewinding the video multiple times, which became a bit tedious. Also, speaking very, very rapidly when your accent could be tough to pick up for many of us creates a bit of an extra hurdle. I do not mean this to be anything other than a suggestion, as I was really pleased with the video overall and appreciate you doing this!!
Thanks! Feedback is always appreciated!
Just slow the video down fool
Did any changes occur in the later patches?
Great guide! Please add papal point spending as an option to increase mercantilism ~11:15
good point
So what is the rule of thumb with light ships? Protect trade in nodes in trying to transfer from? Or in nodes in collecting in?
There's no rule of thumb. Trade is too dynamic and depends on too many factors. Just send them to a node you have low trade power in and min max from there.
I think fish and grain have some of the best modifiers when you corner the market, but yeah their prices suck.
so if as Castile I send a merchant to collect trade in seville that would be a waste because I am automatically collecting money from that node since it's my home node?
Most of the time, yes.
pa ga well, a merchant increases your trade power there, so if the trade value in that node is high, it coud significantly increase the amount of money you earn there
I personally don't like playing the typical conquest blobbing games, I want to try a peaceful colonizing trading game where the only enemies I attack are the natives :P . Trade would be key to building a strong empire here, and of course alliances.
What is Dlc(s) are you using?
In this gameplay?
Oh Dharma dlc never mind.But thanks for answering my question on the Castille guide.
The India customer service Paradox never had
Do you really need to know every aspect of this to be succesful at trade? It just seems so incredibly complex and overwhelming for a brand new player like me... I guess I just want to know the very basics to get started with the game without feeling overwhelmed.
Its really not that hard to understand, just try to have land in a trade node or light ships and then have a merchant steering or collecting. Thats really it. There are obviously a lot more variables than that, but just knowing those few mechanics will help you understand trade. Just mess around with it and you understand trade entirely after an hour or two.
@@robertbutchko5066 Haha, I hear ya. I kinda gave up on this game awhile back after just a short time of trying to play it, but I really should give it the benefit of the doubt and give it a fair chance again.
@@robertbutchko5066 Thanks for the encouraging words man; I'll dedicate some time to it this weekend for sure.
uhmmmm. yea. but how do you trade? cuz im playing as albania and im losing money and i want a quick buck.
Just found the channel, but I can't quite place the accent..
Love it bro
His accent isn't that thick but he sounds like he's from either India, Pakistan, or Bengladesh.
Sounds Indian. Should do an India/Hindustan guide Lol
@@kaziklubey7098 And thats why I can understand him very well (I'm spanish) hahaha, cheers!
I just hit 1k hours.
And I literally have no idea how trade works except "high trade power and value = good" hahah
dont have to worry about trade when you rule the world ;D
is this still accurate?
Too many terms that we don't understand spoken too fast, its cool to explain it in a really technical way that makes sense later on in terms of context, but to a lot of new players, the video is full of concepts linking together we don't understand yet so its jargon. Some more feedback would be I found it hard to know which screens you were accessing and where, flicking through the different trade tabs etc.
Need 17 years to take capital valencia as castille. And that was the luckiest moment in my life. Watched a lot of eu4 guide videos. Still dont understand a single thing. Help
got up to steering trades and completely stopped understanding
Are you from India? Just out of curiosity since your pronunciation of Dharma was very distinct.
He's from Mongolia as far as I've heard.
From his accent, it's pretty clear he's from India, Pakistan or Bangladesh.
My brain hurts from this game... But I'm learning... Jeez
I'm so lost with it... but I feel like i'd have a ton of fun with if I actually knew what I was doing. -_-
Did u just make spain into ur vassal? 😂
Just because developers can make a game this complex doesn't mean they should.
I agree. I'm going to request a refund on Steam. It's kind of insulting how complex it is without any helpful information in the game. It's like they just expect you to know what you're doing right from the beginning. Unreal.
@Shao Yu Mai Wang Dude you absolutely nailed it. I completely agree! I was so excited to play this game and was let down! im sure its a great game if you know what the fuck you are doing.... The tutorial is a joke......
um, this was a highly successful game from the devs. They got rich from this and CK2. It was released years ago and is still getting thousands of players playing at one time. It's only mildly complicated in comparison to other Paradox games. Patience is the key to learning these games.
Shao Yu Mai Wang he’s full of shit he probably can’t even play hoi4
Instead of explaining the theory behind it with no application, could you not just say: ok here’s an example: if you are portugal if you want to empower bordeaux transfer trade power from genoa because of this and that. An example would be 10x simpler
I have 1000 hours in this game and still feel like a noob
Really starting to think I wasted money with this game
I think I will just stick to hoi4 XD
Mrs Tessy is legit and her method works like magic I keep earning every single week with her new strategy
yes I'm also a living testimony of expert Mrs Tessy
Mrs Tessy has changed my financial status for the best. All thanks to my aunty who introduced her to me
I am now a creditor not a debtor anymore
thanks for the recommendation
I just contacted her and she attended to me nicely
I doubted her too before I gave it a try
She's not like other broker who will start telling you stories and excuses why they trade didn't go well after collecting your money
“basics” “for beginners”
What the fuck have you done to spain.
That Indian accent bruh
I have to rewind a lot to try to figure out what word he's trying to say. It's incredible how bad he butchers a word like development
This is nowhere near begginer's tutorial. It's 13+ minutes flow of constant new information, there's no way a new player can learn from this.
...im just gonna uninstall this.....
You talk too fast with your accent it's hard to follow. Even if you rewind it lol... slow down next time