After that win vs Happy, Lyn could literally walk on water or turn water into wine and still have the same indifferent, half-awake expression on him the whole time, no doubt.
I’m sure it’s been suggested many times, but could there be like 30 mins of “dead time” added to the end of the casts, particularly epic tournament finals like this one, and semis like happy’s series? It seems tedious but for the excitement of viewers watching the vod later, it takes some of the suspense out of the series knowing one person is up 3-1 and there’s only 15-20 minutes left. It isn’t really an issue, the games are still unbelievable!
@@lightweightjive Forti is always expressive after wins, but I have no idea what was he saying, maybe something to his fans or something like "I am the best".
Dead time is HORRENDOUS on the YT algorithm. I too would absolutely love extended videos to avoid spoilers, but unfortunately thats a very bad business decision.
I have to say, Forti figured out how to play happy on and off, he hasn't figured out Lyn yet. The second game looked close, but in reality 1 gold mine vs 2 loses the majority of the time.
@@giantenemycrab420 Mountain King is invisible, so Lyn cannot see. Then MK throws a storm bolt at TC, from right next to him, which leaves only a very small window to activate the invulnerability potion before the bolt hits. Given MK wasn't visible and there was extremely little time to react, this is very well done by Lyn.
Incredible series. Love watching Lyn play. It's unfortunate that Forti seems to have a real issue closing out tournaments. Those first 2 games were laden with mental mistakes.
I've said it before that I believe that, pound-for-pound, Lyn is the greatest WC3 player of all times, held bad by the fact that he plays the most restrictive and reactive race in WC3(Orc cannot come up with many innovative openings and strats because it must react to what opponent is doing.). CComing from an OG like myself that has been watching pro WC3 since 2005, this statement carries weight. But what we saw in this tournament is simply ridiculous. I am starting to question if Lyn is actually a Human Being or a completely different species. He dodged Hammer Throw not once but two times. Then, he timed the invul potion to match just the exact time of invisibility to kill MK. That was beyond ridiculous. Who the FK does this in real time? Just stop it, dude. It's actually gross at this point. Lyn treated a high-tier 2,550 MMR Grandmaster like Forti like he didn't even belong there with him. The gap in skill is so big that Lyn was flexing on Fortitude. Who flexes on a 2,550 tier-A Grandmaster like this? What makes Lyn so special is that he combines the best precisions and timing ever(yes, better than even Happy's) with being a true RTS player. Lyn is a true RTS player. It's often said that Orc players are the kind of people that prefer playing DOTA over RTS, because so much of Orc's game play revolves around it's heroes. But Lyn combines his god-like precision and timing with a macro ability that is outstanding. Lyn has a 6th sense when it comes to knowing when to attack and to retreat, when to expand and when to stay in one base, where he and his opponent are in the map at all times, and extraordinary skill in managing his resources. Lyn's macro is the 2nd best ever after Infi's. Lyn could be a top player in SC2. Lyn is also creative, but because of the reactive nature of Orc, he expresses his creativity only in pre-planned builds. All the S-tier pros in the history of the game, Moon, Lyn, Happy and Infi are all really good at everything and don't have any weak spots. But what makes Lyn so special is that not only is he the best timing&execution player of all times, but he combined that with a macro ability surpassed only by Infi, and a creativity surpassed only by Moon. Lyn is just a very, very special player.
You say you watch the game since 2005 and don't mention Grubby and Life in S-tier players of history? Strange. Also, what Lyn did in this game, Happy has been doing for a long time. No one dominated this game for so long like Happy did in last 5 years and Lyn is far from having same overall statistics as Happy in the game. Lyn is a WC3 God, but he is still Top2, below Happy.
@@cadukizzi It's not strage at all. Grubby is a 2 time WCg winner and the most iconic Western WC3 player ever, but he never reached the skill level of Lyn, Happy, Infi and Moon. Also, I think it's funny that you bring up Grubby, the most generic name imaginable, to try to prove that I haven't been watching WC3 since 2005. You should have brought up names like Zacard, or MadFrog, Sky, ReMind, Creolophus, Insomnia, Susiria, Lucifer, Thorzain, Lucifron, etc, as examples of names I didn't mention to "prove" that I haven't been watching Wc3 since 2005. As for Happy, your narrative is completely wrong. Happy has been dominant only since late 2020/2121. He won WGL in Summer 2019, but then he lost his title to Lyn at WGL Winter, and then in early 2020, he had the series Vs Infi where Infi spanked him and beat him 3-0 at the Huya Super League. Even in 2020, he was still being challenged. He only became the consensus @1 player at Raraland in 2021.
@@PeteCrawfordCrawford Sorry, by Life I meant Sky. Most of these players you mentioned were A-tier at best, with the exception of Grubby and Sky, but that is a matter of opinion. Madfrog's game style is influential to this day, but he won nothing. Grubby also won an ESWC and was the orc king long before Lyn and until his retirement. Happy lost a series to Infi, so what? He made to grand finals in both 2019 WGL and by that time his statistics were reaching the roof already. Now even if what you say was true and Happy did start his dominance in 2021, tell me another player who dominated this game for 4 years? Maybe Moon, but definetly not Lyn.
Can't belive neither of y'all mentioned Th000... Tbh both of you guys raise good points, but top player is pretty subjective. I think it's a toss up between Moon, Lyn and Happy for GOAT, though I lean towards Moon. Happy = Nadal. Unbreakable, out-manuevres opponents and arguably the most mechanical strength. Lyn = Djokovic. Near perfect execution, strong resolve, great mix of talent and decision-making. Moon = Federer. Has the most weaknesses, but playing at his peak is art. In his prime, unrivalled creativity and elegance.
Lyn always plays well, but this was a whole 'nother level. This might be the first grand final with the highest level of play that does NOT involve Happy.
Awesome play by Lyn. By the way watching these matchups, make me think what did blizzard wanted to achieve with hh nerf, they are really jot a problem. The only complain I can think from a human perspective is orc's ability to do a lot of damage with hit and run tactics in this matchup. And if we thini that is a problem, then a nerf to cl, shockwave or raiders would make kore sense.
Like a few clips ago, I said that only orcs can fight fair with humans. Humans at the end of generation 3 are the strongest in all armies. If you want to win, you can only fight quickly against generation 3. Orcs are a good choice. UD's army is only strong in the early and mid game and lacks mobility, so happy's continuous failure is not a decline in performance. is choosing an army :)
if you are a god at tennis, chess, or any sport, you will always be a god as long as you keep it up. in most Esports balancing exists, if u are a god at any game, developers interpret it as "not balanced" and will nerf the god.
@@thehellsong i agree, thats what i love about it, not even the workers are simmilar, greatest RTS (or maybe game) ever. however, i believe undead race is being done dirty just because happy is ultra good.
Lyn just destroyed Happy, made Sok look like a complete noob, and schooled Forti in the span of a couple of days. All that while playing probably the weakest race in the game rn
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The invul storm bolt dodge from an invisible mountain king on echo isles might be the greatest play I've seen all year.
All time easily.
48:17 btw
Probably all time
After that win vs Happy, Lyn could literally walk on water or turn water into wine and still have the same indifferent, half-awake expression on him the whole time, no doubt.
I’m sure it’s been suggested many times, but could there be like 30 mins of “dead time” added to the end of the casts, particularly epic tournament finals like this one, and semis like happy’s series? It seems tedious but for the excitement of viewers watching the vod later, it takes some of the suspense out of the series knowing one person is up 3-1 and there’s only 15-20 minutes left. It isn’t really an issue, the games are still unbelievable!
I wouldn't mind hearing what Lyn said after the game if there is a short interview.
@@fanzheng6480 that’s a great idea, an interview with happy also would be awesome.
@@lightweightjive Forti is always expressive after wins, but I have no idea what was he saying, maybe something to his fans or something like "I am the best".
Dead time is HORRENDOUS on the YT algorithm. I too would absolutely love extended videos to avoid spoilers, but unfortunately thats a very bad business decision.
The TC dodging the bolt twice on echo isles was insane
!Spoilershield!
Either hu wins or orc!
@@Biobin123where is the Undead?
@@nakiriumdose792F**k undead! 😊
so happy to see orc and LYN win, he deserve it really
spoiler block? like.......
Congrats to the winner, truly deserved!
Great perfomance.
Lyn ascended to Godhood
I have to say, Forti figured out how to play happy on and off, he hasn't figured out Lyn yet. The second game looked close, but in reality 1 gold mine vs 2 loses the majority of the time.
@@fanzheng6480 exactly: the option to buy items over and over and tavern buy the TC won it
He's already the god of orc!
48:20 I've watched 1000 replays in my life, but I've never seen anything like this. Timing of all time.
What am I watching here I'm a noob
@@giantenemycrab420 Mountain King is invisible, so Lyn cannot see. Then MK throws a storm bolt at TC, from right next to him, which leaves only a very small window to activate the invulnerability potion before the bolt hits.
Given MK wasn't visible and there was extremely little time to react, this is very well done by Lyn.
"Lyn is riding the Chain-Wave to a 1-0 victory!" Excellent cast as always Neo! gg
This whole grand final was insane
idol Lyn since 2007
hahahah, I was afraid that Neo forgot to stream today and broke the 85 consecutive days. Congrats on 86 Neo ;)
That echo isles was one of the best games of the year !
Lyn plays the true orc style with raids on the village, pillage and stuff. It's like watching a movie
Jannes, I really love your excitment! ❤ It is already great, but your mod makes it even much better!
Thanks to you!
Ничего себе вообще не почуствовал ни Хэппи ни Фортитьюда! Хорошая игра от Лина😱💪👍
You know the game is good when Neo reacts like this 🎉❤
Why does Happy vs Forti LB final feel more like the Grand final with dual cast than this? LOL
Just with that game in Echo Isles, these series deserve a very shiny golden star
Lyn is just on a completely different level 🤯
Every time he says "oh my god" i think that something cool happened in game but it's a donation ^^.
Lyn ate the stormbolt rhythm, what a great player!
Fcking insane games! That invis invln dodge.. come on.. this was Neo from the Matrix. Great cast as always by B2W!
The rank 1 looks good on lyn
lyn is a god.
no
@@oleksandrtaras5336 you must be a happy fan lol
Incredible series. Love watching Lyn play. It's unfortunate that Forti seems to have a real issue closing out tournaments. Those first 2 games were laden with mental mistakes.
Why forti doesn't go MK First in every game?
Great games and great casting!
Lyn played so well.
I hope we see more NE in the future :(
Can you arrange an interview with Lyn?
Rayos que buenas partidas jugó Lyn, sin duda el mejor Orco de WC3. Bien merecido el título de campeón del torneo.
Lyn song WHEN?!
Man it is so exciting when the game is 2:0 and there is an hour left in the video
Congratulations to the winner!! Couldn't of happened to a nicer guy 😀
If banking 1.7k gold why not go t3 as orc for tiny, lightning orb and third hero?
I've said it before that I believe that, pound-for-pound, Lyn is the greatest WC3 player of all times, held bad by the fact that he plays the most restrictive and reactive race in WC3(Orc cannot come up with many innovative openings and strats because it must react to what opponent is doing.). CComing from an OG like myself that has been watching pro WC3 since 2005, this statement carries weight.
But what we saw in this tournament is simply ridiculous. I am starting to question if Lyn is actually a Human Being or a completely different species. He dodged Hammer Throw not once but two times. Then, he timed the invul potion to match just the exact time of invisibility to kill MK. That was beyond ridiculous. Who the FK does this in real time? Just stop it, dude. It's actually gross at this point. Lyn treated a high-tier 2,550 MMR Grandmaster like Forti like he didn't even belong there with him. The gap in skill is so big that Lyn was flexing on Fortitude. Who flexes on a 2,550 tier-A Grandmaster like this?
What makes Lyn so special is that he combines the best precisions and timing ever(yes, better than even Happy's) with being a true RTS player. Lyn is a true RTS player. It's often said that Orc players are the kind of people that prefer playing DOTA over RTS, because so much of Orc's game play revolves around it's heroes. But Lyn combines his god-like precision and timing with a macro ability that is outstanding. Lyn has a 6th sense when it comes to knowing when to attack and to retreat, when to expand and when to stay in one base, where he and his opponent are in the map at all times, and extraordinary skill in managing his resources. Lyn's macro is the 2nd best ever after Infi's. Lyn could be a top player in SC2. Lyn is also creative, but because of the reactive nature of Orc, he expresses his creativity only in pre-planned builds.
All the S-tier pros in the history of the game, Moon, Lyn, Happy and Infi are all really good at everything and don't have any weak spots. But what makes Lyn so special is that not only is he the best timing&execution player of all times, but he combined that with a macro ability surpassed only by Infi, and a creativity surpassed only by Moon. Lyn is just a very, very special player.
You say you watch the game since 2005 and don't mention Grubby and Life in S-tier players of history? Strange. Also, what Lyn did in this game, Happy has been doing for a long time. No one dominated this game for so long like Happy did in last 5 years and Lyn is far from having same overall statistics as Happy in the game. Lyn is a WC3 God, but he is still Top2, below Happy.
@@cadukizzi It's not strage at all. Grubby is a 2 time WCg winner and the most iconic Western WC3 player ever, but he never reached the skill level of Lyn, Happy, Infi and Moon.
Also, I think it's funny that you bring up Grubby, the most generic name imaginable, to try to prove that I haven't been watching WC3 since 2005. You should have brought up names like Zacard, or MadFrog, Sky, ReMind, Creolophus, Insomnia, Susiria, Lucifer, Thorzain, Lucifron, etc, as examples of names I didn't mention to "prove" that I haven't been watching Wc3 since 2005.
As for Happy, your narrative is completely wrong. Happy has been dominant only since late 2020/2121. He won WGL in Summer 2019, but then he lost his title to Lyn at WGL Winter, and then in early 2020, he had the series Vs Infi where Infi spanked him and beat him 3-0 at the Huya Super League. Even in 2020, he was still being challenged. He only became the consensus @1 player at Raraland in 2021.
@@PeteCrawfordCrawford Sorry, by Life I meant Sky. Most of these players you mentioned were A-tier at best, with the exception of Grubby and Sky, but that is a matter of opinion. Madfrog's game style is influential to this day, but he won nothing. Grubby also won an ESWC and was the orc king long before Lyn and until his retirement. Happy lost a series to Infi, so what? He made to grand finals in both 2019 WGL and by that time his statistics were reaching the roof already. Now even if what you say was true and Happy did start his dominance in 2021, tell me another player who dominated this game for 4 years? Maybe Moon, but definetly not Lyn.
Can't belive neither of y'all mentioned Th000...
Tbh both of you guys raise good points, but top player is pretty subjective. I think it's a toss up between Moon, Lyn and Happy for GOAT, though I lean towards Moon.
Happy = Nadal. Unbreakable, out-manuevres opponents and arguably the most mechanical strength.
Lyn = Djokovic. Near perfect execution, strong resolve, great mix of talent and decision-making.
Moon = Federer. Has the most weaknesses, but playing at his peak is art. In his prime, unrivalled creativity and elegance.
One of the best comment ever on our UA-cam
Lyn always plays well, but this was a whole 'nother level. This might be the first grand final with the highest level of play that does NOT involve Happy.
What a game!!
For the Hooooorrrddddddddd 🎉🎉🎉
nice i just enjoy lyn game play
Walking mana fountain on a horse !!! lol
Why doesnt he pick first mountain king for every game ? I dont get that
Not easy to level up on every map.
King of orc is back ! ;)
Gonna tell my grandkids about the invul storm bolt dodge (and the 300 norwegian whale gifties ❤)
Awesome play by Lyn. By the way watching these matchups, make me think what did blizzard wanted to achieve with hh nerf, they are really jot a problem. The only complain I can think from a human perspective is orc's ability to do a lot of damage with hit and run tactics in this matchup. And if we thini that is a problem, then a nerf to cl, shockwave or raiders would make kore sense.
Better, than Forty vs Happy, but no gold star.
I'm not understand criteria.
Possibly bc it was a bit one-sided? But I agree, this was an AMAZING series.
My goodness does this game look dated now. Good to hear your commentary again, mate. been a couple years since I checked out your channel.
Both Lyn and Fortitude are very strong
Insane !!!
honeslty those creeps kinda screwed foritude up on that last game.
Like a few clips ago, I said that only orcs can fight fair with humans. Humans at the end of generation 3 are the strongest in all armies. If you want to win, you can only fight quickly against generation 3. Orcs are a good choice. UD's army is only strong in the early and mid game and lacks mobility, so happy's continuous failure is not a decline in performance. is choosing an army :)
for the horde!
Why doesnt this have a gold star
Because it is not happy, so b2w wont give it a gold star
Ok the first two games tho... That's enough entertaining WC for a good while....
Love W3❤
Stuck in the toolbox! 😁😁
I’d like this match infinite amount of times !
nice nice nice
is happy skipping the tourney or he just got rekt?
Wish I can see him playing offline
GG Lyn = Goat
Fortitude winning: 😃🤣😁😆🤪
Lyn winning: 😶
Lyn stomped him to the ground, no doubt.
Lynn is way too good
Next patch, ORCS to be nerfed
goooooooooo
2 happy slayer
Thanks for the spoilers everyone
You welcome. Next time try watching the game before reading comments.
I’d like to see more 3rd strike characters coming back but not in the art style of sf6. Street fighter never looked more ugly like this since sf EX
if you are a god at tennis, chess, or any sport, you will always be a god as long as you keep it up.
in most Esports balancing exists, if u are a god at any game, developers interpret it as "not balanced" and will nerf the god.
Those are just mirrors games, balance in Warcraft is much more complicated since it has 4 races (6 different match ups to balance in one game)
@@thehellsong Blizzard never made any effort tho.
@@thehellsong i agree, thats what i love about it, not even the workers are simmilar, greatest RTS (or maybe game) ever.
however, i believe undead race is being done dirty just because happy is ultra good.
Leasson learned... Wolves lvl 3 ARE a thing.
welp.... guess I don't have to watch this. Pulled up on my phone and before i can hit play i see the spoiler.... awesome
Lyn made forti easy
:)
Nerf damn mk already.
Did you even see the games?
Mk was countered by skill , tc with the insane dodges
Agree. MK too strong.
A shitty final, but amazing play from Lyn. Guess that evens things out a bit.
How is it shitty, it’s the best 2 players currently playing an awesome final
The best is Happy.
too many happy fanboys hoping imba ghoul buffs destroy the game.
@@cadukizzi nah he didn’t even make the finals because the lost 2 series in a row. Even OP race couldn’t save his mistakes this time
@@alexch3618 too many Happy haters celebrating the first finals in 5 years without the GOAT.
Lyn just destroyed Happy, made Sok look like a complete noob, and schooled Forti in the span of a couple of days.
All that while playing probably the weakest race in the game rn
Weakest is NE, then Undead. Orc is in good shape at Top50.
lmao it's HU>ORC>UD>>>>NE
@@XEmiyaArcherXyeah, thats what it seems right now. Happy and Moon are keeping ud and ne alive by themselves
you started off so well, then had to include balance...
@@Back2Warcraft Always (:
forti was humiliated and where's his trashtalk now?