Kind of astonishing the amount of super yacht news available to report on. Who would have thought there were so many accidents, fires, sinkings etc to report on. I would have thought by now we'd run out of super yachts.
Hi from Cape Coral Florida. They boil down to this: if another vessel is approaching from port, you have the right of way. Conversely, if a vessel is heading to cross your path from your starboard side, they have the right of way. It seems the ferry had the right away.
Esentially correct but not as simple as that sounds. Remember the rules also cover motor vs sail, limited manuverability etc. In this case though, you are 100% right.
@@petert3355I used to help onboard sailboats during races. I sure remember scrambling, especially in the start of the race, to get the best position. The captain of the sailboat sure had to know who had the right away. Yikes. Was very exciting.
There is no such thing as a right of way as such, but the ferry would be deemed the "stand on vessel" and the super yacht the "give way vessel". So although the ferry has priority in this instance, both still need to take avoiding action if circumstances require it. 🙏
I am an American US NAVY veteran and have been a UK lifeboat volunteer crewmen for four seasons. I just wanted to say that you have taught me quite a bit. Cheers
I've just seen your video of a recent collision, and now I've seen this near-collision, and in both cases I waited for a boat to sound its great big horn, but neither one did. How come you have a great big horn, eSysman, and they don't?
It's a very simple Rule - Port gives way to Starboard. Based on the Rules of the Road, the Superyacht was at fault because the Ferry had Right Of Way due to being on the Starboard side of the Superyacht. It would have been very obvious that they were on a constant bearing and collision was imminent and the Ferry Captain knew that his passengers came first, so he took action to arrest his way. The other thing that the Ferry could have done was to sound his horn five times as loudly as possible as a wake-up call to the Captain of the Superyacht. If this had ended up in a collision and sinking of the Ferry, then there may have been loss of life and the Captains of both vessels would have appeared in maritime and criminal court. One of my instructors at BRNC Dartmouth had his own way of demonstrating his anger at a vessel that broke the rules of the road. He would take a copy of the book and throw it at the offender with as much force as a missile! A swift complaint would have been made to whatever yacht club the offender belonged to and he would find himself blackballed from then on. You don't break the Rules of the Road at Dartmouth and get away with it!
I always viewed a shuttle/ferry that has set times need the right of way and any other personal craft needs to adjust speed or heading even if it is go behind them.... Gotta be aware of the normal set traffic for the area.... ALWAYS keep someone at the wheel dose not mater 10 ft fishing boat or 300 foot yacht....
Rule 15 is pretty clear. Another way to put it is if two vessels are converging, if you are looking at the red navigation light on the other vessel, you cede right of way. Not enough skippers on smaller boats know this and push through despite being in the wrong. Apparently super yacht captains do this too.
I doubt whether the Captain of the Superyacht was on watch, more likely one of the junior OOWs. As a Master for 21 years, 17 of those in the Superyacht industry I was always concerned at the generally poor knowledge of the IRPCS (Rules of the Road). I used to question them all the time. They learnt to read the Rules and not look at the pictures in the book.
This is just clear negligence... It truly is baffling how many people get out on water and then completely disregard the safety rules, and from my experience where I live, it's more rich people with larger boats than it is smaller boats. I drive an old McKee 14ft tri hull that I baby and I'll see dudes in brand new boats that cost more than my house smacking their prop off rocks, crashing into docks, refusing to give way to sailboats, creating wakes in no wake zones or zooming through small channels where paddlers hang out and nearly capsizing their kayaks and canoes... It's really frustrating
@@csjrogerson2377 I was shocked by those deck hands simply continuing as normal while in on a collision course. I'd expect them to take at least some action to prevent a disaster. Such basic & important rules should be standard knowledge for every member of the crew.
I've never managed to find provenance for this, but years ago I was told that UG was the standard Morse response to hearing an SOS, and was informally known as 'You Greek?' because of the statistics!
Four rules of thumb: 1, Vessels to your starboard have right of way. 2. Regardless of rule 1, vessels under power give right of way to vessels not under power. 3. Regardless of rule 2, vessels not under power should assume idiots are on vessels under power and should get the hell out of the way. 4. (for sailors) The best time to reef is when you first ask yourself: "Should I think about reefing?"
Same situ today for me in a kayak with a paddlewheel boat in our reservoir. Technically he had to give way but common sense tells me to get out of the way. You can be right or dead right.
The are different classes of vessels. Big, motor-driven vessels have right of way over other vessels. Makes sense when your distance to come to a full stop is measured in meters, and theirs in miles. Same for the turning radius.
7:26: The unique radar arch in the background M/Y Anna caught my attention. That yacht is ridiculously sleek / cool looking. One of the best exterior designs I've seen (Feadship).
In all the areas I've sailed..... Public Ferries have right of way over ALL other vessels including sailing. The comment our instructor used was "NEVER play chicken with the Manly Ferry!!".
Having watched the AIS replay a few times I actually think the blame was more on the superyacht but the ferry was not blameless. The ferry certainly had right of way and it appears that Bleu de Nimes slowed down to let the ferry pass ahead. With the superyacht slowing down the ferry would have easily passed ahead if it had maintained course and speed. The superyacht, however, only slowed down but did not alter course to make it obvious that they were taking avoiding action. It appears that the captain of the ferry, being unsure of the intentions of the superyacht, performed an emergency stop. You can apportion blame to the superyacht for not making a substantial change of course to signal that they were taking avoiding action, but also to the ferry for not maintaining course and speed. I would speculate that if the captain of the ferry was only eyeballing the superyacht, not using electronic aids, he may have been confused by the superyacht not altering course. Of course we don't know the full facts but normally the ferry captain should have been using all available equipment including AIS and Radar, as well as calling on the VHF, and you would think he should have known that the superyacht had slowed and there was no need to stop.
Red to Red. Superyacht was showing Ferry her Green. Superyacht should have either slowed to let the Ferry pass or made an early turn to starboard to give the ferry her Red.
Ridiculous... plenty of time to avoid that whole situation they both had power both had steering and it was a crystal clear day if you cannot reach the other vessel on the VHF just take it out of gear and be the give way vessel let them pass... somebody on the yacht was not paying attention no excuse for that to have been that close of an incident
Please show me where in the IRPCS that it mentions VHF at all. As a master for 21 years, I probably only used the VHF 6 times in these matters. Apply the the damned Rules.
@csjrogerson2377 still required equipment nothing wrong getting on the horn and asking the other vessel what it's intentions are in that particular situation
@@robbubba8020 You'd be surprised as to how many VHF assisted collision there have been. In all cases, simple application of the Rules would have prevented the accident. AIS as helped immensely.
it usually takes two to make an accident, and in this case both crews seem to have either not been paying attention or they carelessly misjudged the situation
at the start of the footage you can see the engine smoke from the rear so they may have thought they would pass in front before the other ship but when it came close they chose to slam in reverse hence the diversion and drift shown in AIS.
Arm chair analyst here, it looks like they both slowed down which means they saw each other but failed to communicate and agree as to who had right of way. *Edit* Yacht broke rule 15 Ferry broke rule 16 to follow rule 17
It depends on where the whole thing happened etc.: "In Rule 9 a vessel proceeding along the course of a narrow channel or fairway is obliged to keep "as near to the outer limit of the channel or fairway which lies on her starboard side as is safe and practicable." The same Rule obliges a vessel of less than 20 metres in length or a sailing vessel not to impede the passage of a vessel "which can safely navigate only within a narrow channel or fairway."
When I took the mariners course we were told small boats must give way to larger boats. Small boats are more maneuverable and shall make efforts to keep out of the larger vessels way.
The nautical Right of Way is defined as being from 0 dg to 135 dg, or 45 dg abaft of the starboard beam. Anything approaching within that sector has the right of way over you - that, which is the actual meaning of Rule 15, is unconditional. The Yacht was totally in the wrong - period. They had the absolute obligation to turn to the starboard on the approach, so as to set a heading taking them behind the ferry. Geoff Rohde
I think the superyacht _Blue De Nimes_ was following the older adage of "Whoever has the biggest vessel has the right of way." The captain better hope the owner doesn't find he nearly caused a catastrophe. I wonder if it's just the limited footage, but again, I didn't hear any horn blasts. While it seems the ferry had someone on the bridge, I wonder if the superyacht did?
It appears possible that the ferry, which was the stand on vessel, didn't stand on and slowed too soon, while Bleu de Nime had slowed in order to pass to stern. So I'm not sure about where the blame lies
My immediate thought when I saw that grey/silver super yacht Shinkai was "how long before that ends up in a video because someone can't see them in the fog?" Talk about a poor colour for visibility!
It's not "right of way". The ferry was the stand on vessel. It seems possible they slowed (long before collision was imminent) while the motor yacht was already taking action to pass to stern. That would put the ferry at fault.
Rule of the Roads, you had to be word perfect when going up for your "orals" (examination 😉) as these are a legal document. The only trouble with being involved in a collision at sea you're both to blame. It just up to the Court of inquiry to decide what proportion of blame gets asigned to each ship. I know from experience unfortunately where a cargo vessel collided into the port side of the jack-up rig I was towing in a TSS. 😖
Have I missed something ? The superyacht slowed as per regulations took action to avoid collision. How may I ask were the superyacht crew to know that the passenger ferry would subsequently slow down as well. AIS appear to show the captain slowing down and steering towards starboard. The ferry responded by slowing down himself Is it not reasonable for the crew to expect the ferry to continue at speed (as per regulations) which would in the eyes of the yacht captain have resulted in the yacht passing astern
Don’t see this in the comments yet but it looks pretty clear that the yacht turned starboard and did in fact alter course to go astern of the ferry, but the ferry slowed…..if one gives way and the other puts itself in the way again that’s kind of a problem
Was the superyacht captain drunk? That's clearly a breach of the colregs the superyacht should have altered course to pass astern of the ferry. Hope the greek coastguard are investigating. That said ferries in Greece are a bit of a nightmare and cut things very close on a regular basis.
The Ruski owner lost in court: Phi remains docked at Canary Wharf in London, guarded by UK authorities. The best part is that the owner has to pay for maintenance while it's in London.
Nidri star should have kept course and speed...turning to starboard in time by Bleu Nimes would have been better visible than reducing speed. Bad mov from both vessels.
I have no rational reason why the superyacht/ferry near miss pissed me off - sorry, made me mad - pissed means something else in the UK. My knowledge of sea going vessels is incredibly limited. My husband was station on a carrier for much of his tour in the Navy and he taught me to sail in a 24ft Catalina and my son had a little skiff. The carrier took several miles to stop or change course and the skiff and sailboat could turn on a dime and a dollar. Somewhere in the middle sits a superyacht and one assumes better handling and rear thrusters and I don’t know what else. So I am presuming it had better maneuverability than that ferry loaded with 400 passengers. I could be wrong, and it could be a newer, state of the art ferry that simply needs a bath. Was that arrogance? Inattentiveness? Playing with fire? Could all the money in the world (which I won’t assume since they bought a used vessel on a dime and fixed it up but it could have been for the fun of the project) save someone the horrific PR of sinking a ferry with 400 passengers and who knows how many deaths? I cannot fathom being so heartless. Or (frankly) stupid. Am I misreading the potential of that near miss? I will admit that there is enough redneck in me that I would have used all of my self control to get those passengers to their intended destination before chasing down that superyacht and having a few harsh words with the pilot. Or worse, depending on whether he/she came to their senses before I arrived. Failing that, I would have gone out of my way and actually called the Coast Guard to get that yacht grounded. For the duration of the passengers contract. Grrrr.
You don't need rules to be safe, just common sense. I only have a small boat but never cross the bow of an oncoming craft always cross the stern, even if you believe you have space, you may have power failure half way through the manouvre
The rules are clear. But, there are circumstances where you are not going to exercise your rule book given rights! We here in Croatia never mess with a ferry! Ferry goes first. Also try to form your rule book given rights whilst under sails and a tanker on port collision course…
Is there an equivalent to an aviation AIRPROX* In maritime circles? *An AIRPROX is a situation in which, in the opinion of a pilot or air traffic services personnel, the distance between aircraft as well as their relative positions and speed have been such that the safety of the aircraft involved may have been compromised.
legally - on starboard has the right of way , but all vessels you have a collision are both at fault - drive defensively - ferry has 400 pax - protect the paxs lawyers will sort -
While the YACHT ACTED MORE IN VIOLATION OF COLREGS. both vessels share responsibility. I must presume that the pilot houses were not in contact or that communication was not effective. The ferry captain was ultimately responsible for protecting his/her vessel and passengers...THE EASIEST WAS FOR THE FERRY TO PROTECT ITSELF WAS TO REDUCE SPEED FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES----YUP THAT SIMPLE
The motor yacht should have turned to starboard miles earlier as he is the give way vessel. The ferry could have called ( the motor yacht) via vhf to ask their intentions. It beggars belief, that seeing both vessels are on a constant bearing, neither party took avoiding action.
Blue De Nimes slows down so that Nidri Star could pass, but as they approach each other Nidri Star also slows down instead of keeping the speed, or am I wrong? If Nidris speed was kept they would have passed. Blue De Nimes should have altered it´s course to go aft of Nidri Star to show it´s intention but never did. This is what I see from the AIS data you present, reality could be another.
Hey, I’m a former Royal Navy, warship driver and instructor in the collision regulations. You could have me on anytime you need help analyzing these situations. I’m probably one of the best experts out there that there is.
You are very wrong. The primary rule is to have the boatie coming from starboard side to navigate. The boat on the starboard side must keep their speed/course so that the yielding ship can plan and execute their yielding procedures. The yielding boat must show that they are aware of this situation, as is the COLREG 16. And, ONLY if collision seems evident, all vessels must do everything they can to avoid collision, but that is the LAST rule to apply here. I find it really puzzling that a yacht channel youtuber seemingly has zero knowledge of the most basic yielding rules concerning two motor yachts. Maybe taking an ICC-M-S-I certificate will help you to understand these basics. And just to underline, there is NO priority or right of way, but there are very international and clear rules to who must yield. There are rules of the yielding boat, but NOT rules to say that one boat has some imaginery right of way. As the COLREG 7 says, before likely collision, all vessels must do everything they can to avoid the collision. That is also why maritime courts will normally make collision verdicts to be 90% fault of the yielding boat, and still 10% of the fault of the non-yielding boat, again, due to COLREG 7.
The larger vessel ALWAYS has the right of way. This is because the larger vessel is generally heavier, slower and harder to stop or turn. You should know this, it is a basic maritime rule. However, if it appears the smaller vessel is not taking appropriate actions the Larger vessel captain or pilot should take action to avoid a collision and report the incident to the authorities. The ferry boat driver should have been fined or ticketed for causing a navigation danger.
@@LucieSalat Overloaded does not equate to heavier. The larger ship will be heavier just in the construction of the vessel. Still, the larger vessel has right of way is the rule. You can't "see" that a vessel is heavier or overloaded, but you can see whether it is much larger. The original design of the ship that was converted to a "Super Yacht" was created for International trade, which would have significantly larger fuel tanks and probably had more weight in just fuel alone than the water weight of 400 people. So arguably, the ferry was probably not heavier, not even close. Not that that matters. Even a sailing vessel which is designed to be lighter would have the right of way if it is larger , aka longer. All vessels are steered from the rear rudder. A longer or larger vessel would take more effort and generally more time to turn the ship away from a given course already in motion in order to pivot the rear of the ship around the front bow of the ship and change it's course. In any case, the two ships should never have come that close and it is the responsibility of both captains or pilots to avoid an issue. The ferry master even more , not due to right of way or size of ship, but that fact that he had over 400 souls onboard to protect. We will probably find out in the end that this was more a matter of ego, complacency, and lack of attention from both parties. The larger ship rule is more of a navigational ships safety matter, but pales in comparison to the safety of passengers and crew. The ferry captain will probably lose his job if not his license to operate over this. The captain on the Super Yacht will also probably be let go for embarrassing the Yacht owner and endangering the crew and any guests on board.
@@cowlevelcrypto2346 all solved with just a little communication between the Captains. Based on the 3 rules outlined in the video, the ferry had the larger vessel approaching on its port side, and ought to have made an earlier avoidance manoeuvre to protect the souls on board. In the end, egos likely played a role but collateral consequences were avoided as both vessels were at 10 knots and both could see each other.
Kind of astonishing the amount of super yacht news available to report on. Who would have thought there were so many accidents, fires, sinkings etc to report on. I would have thought by now we'd run out of super yachts.
There are a lot more out there than you think.
And every builder seems to have a yearslong waiting list…smh
@@Buddy869-z9x The better quality and more favoured yachts have a several years long waiting list which why a newly finished yacht is above MSRP.
Hi from Cape Coral Florida.
They boil down to this: if another vessel is approaching from port, you have the right of way. Conversely, if a vessel is heading to cross your path from your starboard side, they have the right of way.
It seems the ferry had the right away.
Exactly.
Esentially correct but not as simple as that sounds. Remember the rules also cover motor vs sail, limited manuverability etc.
In this case though, you are 100% right.
@@petert3355I used to help onboard sailboats during races. I sure remember scrambling, especially in the start of the race, to get the best position. The captain of the sailboat sure had to know who had the right away. Yikes. Was very exciting.
And its a industry ship. In germany that gives them the right of way.
There is no such thing as a right of way as such, but the ferry would be deemed the "stand on vessel" and the super yacht the "give way vessel". So although the ferry has priority in this instance, both still need to take avoiding action if circumstances require it. 🙏
I am an American US NAVY veteran and have been a UK lifeboat volunteer crewmen for four seasons. I just wanted to say that you have taught me quite a bit. Cheers
Always have a special place in my heart for the RNLI thank you for all your good work!
Thank you for being a volunteer - you people are the best.
Thank you!
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Maybe the captain was watching your videos on his phone 😂
I've just seen your video of a recent collision, and now I've seen this near-collision, and in both cases I waited for a boat to sound its great big horn, but neither one did. How come you have a great big horn, eSysman, and they don't?
What a time to be alive, when we can be sure that every catastrophe is being filmed from at least 7 angles! 🎉
It's a very simple Rule - Port gives way to Starboard.
Based on the Rules of the Road, the Superyacht was at fault because the Ferry had Right Of Way due to being on the Starboard side of the Superyacht. It would have been very obvious that they were on a constant bearing and collision was imminent and the Ferry Captain knew that his passengers came first, so he took action to arrest his way.
The other thing that the Ferry could have done was to sound his horn five times as loudly as possible as a wake-up call to the Captain of the Superyacht. If this had ended up in a collision and sinking of the Ferry, then there may have been loss of life and the Captains of both vessels would have appeared in maritime and criminal court.
One of my instructors at BRNC Dartmouth had his own way of demonstrating his anger at a vessel that broke the rules of the road. He would take a copy of the book and throw it at the offender with as much force as a missile!
A swift complaint would have been made to whatever yacht club the offender belonged to and he would find himself blackballed from then on. You don't break the Rules of the Road at Dartmouth and get away with it!
Crazy to think that the vastly larger vessel between a passenger ferry and a superyacht, is indeed the superyacht.
Yeah, that surprised me too.
Not really a ferry. That is a tourist 'day trip' boat.
Nasty adventure for the passngers!!!
The fact that we dont hear 5 horn blasts from either vessel proves both captains are idiots.
Only 10% chance that both Captains were on watch. More likely the Junior Officers. As for Greeks applying the RoR, you'll be bloody lucky.
The ferry was the stand on vessel, and the MY was the give way vessel. Simple seamanship.
I always viewed a shuttle/ferry that has set times need the right of way and any other personal craft needs to adjust speed or heading even if it is go behind them.... Gotta be aware of the normal set traffic for the area.... ALWAYS keep someone at the wheel dose not mater 10 ft fishing boat or 300 foot yacht....
And the ferry didn't stand on
Rule 15 is pretty clear. Another way to put it is if two vessels are converging, if you are looking at the red navigation light on the other vessel, you cede right of way. Not enough skippers on smaller boats know this and push through despite being in the wrong. Apparently super yacht captains do this too.
I doubt whether the Captain of the Superyacht was on watch, more likely one of the junior OOWs. As a Master for 21 years, 17 of those in the Superyacht industry I was always concerned at the generally poor knowledge of the IRPCS (Rules of the Road). I used to question them all the time. They learnt to read the Rules and not look at the pictures in the book.
I usually just speed up and pretend like I'm on the phone? Thought everyone did that?
This is just clear negligence...
It truly is baffling how many people get out on water and then completely disregard the safety rules, and from my experience where I live, it's more rich people with larger boats than it is smaller boats. I drive an old McKee 14ft tri hull that I baby and I'll see dudes in brand new boats that cost more than my house smacking their prop off rocks, crashing into docks, refusing to give way to sailboats, creating wakes in no wake zones or zooming through small channels where paddlers hang out and nearly capsizing their kayaks and canoes...
It's really frustrating
@@csjrogerson2377 I was shocked by those deck hands simply continuing as normal while in on a collision course. I'd expect them to take at least some action to prevent a disaster. Such basic & important rules should be standard knowledge for every member of the crew.
480 passengers plus crew can fit on that ferry in the picture???
Darwin tells me to pass on that.
I've never managed to find provenance for this, but years ago I was told that UG was the standard Morse response to hearing an SOS, and was informally known as 'You Greek?' because of the statistics!
Seems strange…
The Nidri Star 1 has a Passenger Safety Certificate for 500 persons.
Four rules of thumb:
1, Vessels to your starboard have right of way.
2. Regardless of rule 1, vessels under power give right of way to vessels not under power.
3. Regardless of rule 2, vessels not under power should assume idiots are on vessels under power and should get the hell out of the way.
4. (for sailors) The best time to reef is when you first ask yourself: "Should I think about reefing?"
My grandfather lost a lot of races following rule #4!
Sometimes might makes right. Don't die maintaining your right of way.
A friend of mine, Italian like me, works on board the yacht *"Bleu de Nimes"* ...
...she belongs to an Italian entrepreneur!!!
Same situ today for me in a kayak with a paddlewheel boat in our reservoir. Technically he had to give way but common sense tells me to get out of the way. You can be right or dead right.
The are different classes of vessels. Big, motor-driven vessels have right of way over other vessels.
Makes sense when your distance to come to a full stop is measured in meters, and theirs in miles. Same for the turning radius.
It's called the Precautionary Principle: if you don't know what you're doing, don't do it. And that's International Law.
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7:26: The unique radar arch in the background M/Y Anna caught my attention. That yacht is ridiculously sleek / cool looking. One of the best exterior designs I've seen (Feadship).
Looked like the Ferry was on a Shipping Lane & the MY Crossed it! Definitely the MY should of Altered Course & went a Stern of the Ferry!!
when there is doubt there is no doubt
A very close call indeed.....Thanks eSysman...
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In all the areas I've sailed..... Public Ferries have right of way over ALL other vessels including sailing.
The comment our instructor used was "NEVER play chicken with the Manly Ferry!!".
Ditto The Solent and particularly the Red Funnel ferries - those dents in the hulls are from the yachts that didn't stay clear.
Having watched the AIS replay a few times I actually think the blame was more on the superyacht but the ferry was not blameless. The ferry certainly had right of way and it appears that Bleu de Nimes slowed down to let the ferry pass ahead. With the superyacht slowing down the ferry would have easily passed ahead if it had maintained course and speed. The superyacht, however, only slowed down but did not alter course to make it obvious that they were taking avoiding action. It appears that the captain of the ferry, being unsure of the intentions of the superyacht, performed an emergency stop. You can apportion blame to the superyacht for not making a substantial change of course to signal that they were taking avoiding action, but also to the ferry for not maintaining course and speed. I would speculate that if the captain of the ferry was only eyeballing the superyacht, not using electronic aids, he may have been confused by the superyacht not altering course. Of course we don't know the full facts but normally the ferry captain should have been using all available equipment including AIS and Radar, as well as calling on the VHF, and you would think he should have known that the superyacht had slowed and there was no need to stop.
Red to Red.
Superyacht was showing Ferry her Green.
Superyacht should have either slowed to let the Ferry pass or made an early turn to starboard to give the ferry her Red.
MY Blue is an amazing yacht 524' 14,785 GT.I wish there was more video of it.I know its near Taormina Italy now.
Ridiculous... plenty of time to avoid that whole situation they both had power both had steering and it was a crystal clear day if you cannot reach the other vessel on the VHF just take it out of gear and be the give way vessel let them pass... somebody on the yacht was not paying attention no excuse for that to have been that close of an incident
Please show me where in the IRPCS that it mentions VHF at all. As a master for 21 years, I probably only used the VHF 6 times in these matters. Apply the the damned Rules.
@csjrogerson2377 still required equipment nothing wrong getting on the horn and asking the other vessel what it's intentions are in that particular situation
@@robbubba8020 You'd be surprised as to how many VHF assisted collision there have been. In all cases, simple application of the Rules would have prevented the accident. AIS as helped immensely.
I am guessing there was no bridge to bridge communication?
Amazing how they can 'casually' lengthen a ship, that's some serious engineering!
Just for the record: The Nidri Star 1 is NOT a passenger ferry. It's a daycruiser that does daytrips with tourists out of Nidri, Lefkada.
Small correction: Seven Seas was built by Oceanco, not by Feadship
Good god, that would have been deadly!
It's not surprising that a super-yacht is piloted this way.
I notice the Blue Nimes in Barcelona Spain on my visit there, is a big boat. saludos
it usually takes two to make an accident, and in this case both crews seem to have either not been paying attention or they carelessly misjudged the situation
Yes and no, the Greek ferry was clearly stand on vessel it does look like they took evasive action at the last minute.
The regulation is clear, the yacht should have altered the course to starboard and ferry should have continued on course.
at the start of the footage you can see the engine smoke from the rear so they may have thought they would pass in front before the other ship but when it came close they chose to slam in reverse hence the diversion and drift shown in AIS.
My dad wasn't a Captain he was a train engineer and he taught me never try to outrun a train. I think that advice applies here 😳😁
That’s twelve year old thinking. No grown boater believes it safe to pass in front
Arm chair analyst here, it looks like they both slowed down which means they saw each other but failed to communicate and agree as to who had right of way.
*Edit*
Yacht broke rule 15
Ferry broke rule 16 to follow rule 17
It depends on where the whole thing happened etc.: "In Rule 9 a vessel proceeding along the course of a narrow channel or fairway is obliged to keep "as near to the outer limit of the channel or fairway which lies on her starboard side as is safe and practicable." The same Rule obliges a vessel of less than 20 metres in length or a sailing vessel not to impede the passage of a vessel "which can safely navigate only within a narrow channel or fairway."
481 passengers???? blimey!!!
When I took the mariners course we were told small boats must give way to larger boats. Small boats are more maneuverable and shall make efforts to keep out of the larger vessels way.
obvious violation by pompous yacht captain...
The nautical Right of Way is defined as being from 0 dg to 135 dg, or 45 dg abaft of the starboard beam. Anything approaching within that sector has the right of way over you - that, which is the actual meaning of Rule 15, is unconditional. The Yacht was totally in the wrong - period. They had the absolute obligation to turn to the starboard on the approach, so as to set a heading taking them behind the ferry. Geoff Rohde
I think the superyacht _Blue De Nimes_ was following the older adage of "Whoever has the biggest vessel has the right of way." The captain better hope the owner doesn't find he nearly caused a catastrophe.
I wonder if it's just the limited footage, but again, I didn't hear any horn blasts. While it seems the ferry had someone on the bridge, I wonder if the superyacht did?
Nidri Star is out of Nidri in Lefkarda Greece, one of many large tour boats from Nidri
If the ferry maintained its speed the super yacht would haves passed its stern? Would it not?
Communication is probably everyone’s best bet?
The passenger yacht was on the superyacht's Starboard side . Enough said , the arrogant bastards !!
It appears possible that the ferry, which was the stand on vessel, didn't stand on and slowed too soon, while Bleu de Nime had slowed in order to pass to stern.
So I'm not sure about where the blame lies
Always give way to ferries, especially in Greece
6:22 if I'm not wrong, there's also *"QuantumBlue"* (at right of *"Opera"* )!!!
Yes correct
Arutanga? I'll have to look that one up. LOL
My immediate thought when I saw that grey/silver super yacht Shinkai was "how long before that ends up in a video because someone can't see them in the fog?" Talk about a poor colour for visibility!
It's not "right of way".
The ferry was the stand on vessel. It seems possible they slowed (long before collision was imminent) while the motor yacht was already taking action to pass to stern.
That would put the ferry at fault.
Rule of the Roads, you had to be word perfect when going up for your "orals" (examination 😉) as these are a legal document. The only trouble with being involved in a collision at sea you're both to blame. It just up to the Court of inquiry to decide what proportion of blame gets asigned to each ship. I know from experience unfortunately where a cargo vessel collided into the port side of the jack-up rig I was towing in a TSS. 😖
Have I missed something ? The superyacht slowed as per regulations took action to avoid collision. How may I ask were the superyacht crew to know that the passenger ferry would subsequently slow down as well.
AIS appear to show the captain slowing down and steering towards starboard. The ferry responded by slowing down himself
Is it not reasonable for the crew to expect the ferry to continue at speed (as per regulations) which would in the eyes of the yacht captain have resulted in the yacht passing astern
manoeuvrability plays a part in this, however it is subjective and therefore difficult to ascertain.
i have always thought that two vessel that look like are on a collision course, the vessels should both turn to their right. is that pish?
The woman holding the child must gave been terrified.
How negligent are people these days...?
My Dad had a saying. If on your starboard red appears, it is your duty to keep clear.
Don’t see this in the comments yet but it looks pretty clear that the yacht turned starboard and did in fact alter course to go astern of the ferry, but the ferry slowed…..if one gives way and the other puts itself in the way again that’s kind of a problem
with all the tech on these ships, how do they get into these issues. I guess supper yachts get to do what ever they want with no consequences.
It amazing to me that this can happen at these slow speeds. With all the navagation on these ships and early warnings..why?
The ocean is vast and the still collide. COLREGS?
How tf did they not notice each other sooner, bizzare
Was the superyacht captain drunk? That's clearly a breach of the colregs the superyacht should have altered course to pass astern of the ferry. Hope the greek coastguard are investigating. That said ferries in Greece are a bit of a nightmare and cut things very close on a regular basis.
Whatever happened to MY PHi??? The one arested in England. The blue one????
The Ruski owner lost in court: Phi remains docked at Canary Wharf in London, guarded by UK authorities. The best part is that the owner has to pay for maintenance while it's in London.
Do they ever shorten boats?
Both skippers were useless. Have they ever heard of radio and radar. Lucky it wasn't in fog
The Intro Horn doesn't sound as nice as it did in the past
Nidri star should have kept course and speed...turning to starboard in time by Bleu Nimes would have been better visible than reducing speed. Bad mov from both vessels.
Rule 17, Should that not start with where? Rather than were?
I have no rational reason why the superyacht/ferry near miss pissed me off - sorry, made me mad - pissed means something else in the UK. My knowledge of sea going vessels is incredibly limited. My husband was station on a carrier for much of his tour in the Navy and he taught me to sail in a 24ft Catalina and my son had a little skiff. The carrier took several miles to stop or change course and the skiff and sailboat could turn on a dime and a dollar. Somewhere in the middle sits a superyacht and one assumes better handling and rear thrusters and I don’t know what else. So I am presuming it had better maneuverability than that ferry loaded with 400 passengers. I could be wrong, and it could be a newer, state of the art ferry that simply needs a bath. Was that arrogance? Inattentiveness? Playing with fire? Could all the money in the world (which I won’t assume since they bought a used vessel on a dime and fixed it up but it could have been for the fun of the project) save someone the horrific PR of sinking a ferry with 400 passengers and who knows how many deaths? I cannot fathom being so heartless. Or (frankly) stupid. Am I misreading the potential of that near miss? I will admit that there is enough redneck in me that I would have used all of my self control to get those passengers to their intended destination before chasing down that superyacht and having a few harsh words with the pilot. Or worse, depending on whether he/she came to their senses before I arrived. Failing that, I would have gone out of my way and actually called the Coast Guard to get that yacht grounded. For the duration of the passengers contract. Grrrr.
Looks like it is going from fires to collisions.
i don't understand the name sysmon, what do you mean?
You don't need rules to be safe, just common sense. I only have a small boat but never cross the bow of an oncoming craft always cross the stern, even if you believe you have space, you may have power failure half way through the manouvre
The rules are clear. But, there are circumstances where you are not going to exercise your rule book given rights!
We here in Croatia never mess with a ferry! Ferry goes first.
Also try to form your rule book given rights whilst under sails and a tanker on port collision course…
Not relevant to this story but just arrived in monaco with my 3 teenage daughters. Watched MY Daylight doing a fab parking job.
480 on that vessel is absolutely ridiculous
Is there an equivalent to an aviation AIRPROX* In maritime circles?
*An AIRPROX is a situation in which, in the opinion of a pilot or air traffic services personnel, the distance between aircraft as well as their relative positions and speed have been such that the safety of the aircraft involved may have been compromised.
If the stand on vessel (ferry) had maintained her course and speed, which she did not, there would have been no chance of collision
legally - on starboard has the right of way , but all vessels you have a collision are both at fault - drive defensively - ferry has 400 pax - protect the paxs lawyers will sort -
While the YACHT ACTED MORE IN VIOLATION OF COLREGS. both vessels share responsibility. I must presume that the pilot houses were not in contact or that communication was not effective. The ferry captain was ultimately responsible for protecting his/her vessel and passengers...THE EASIEST WAS FOR THE FERRY TO PROTECT ITSELF WAS TO REDUCE SPEED FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES----YUP THAT SIMPLE
Duty to keep a watch at all times. Channel 16. RADAR COLREGS. They should never have got in this situation.
The motor yacht should have turned to starboard miles earlier as he is the give way vessel. The ferry could have called ( the motor yacht) via vhf to ask their intentions. It beggars belief, that seeing both vessels are on a constant bearing, neither party took avoiding action.
The ferry was most likely expecting the yacht to take action at some point but waited too long to take action himself.
@@YachtReport far too long imo. A good navigator would never leave it to the last minute in the hope that the other vessel will take avoiding action.
1:20 - smaller is guilty ;D
*"hey you can't park there"* meme on tictok absolutely has a terrifying start far worse than this ICYMI 😮😮😮😢😢😢😮😮😮
It appears a lot of these captains don’t know the rules of the road.
yachts are not doing well this season in greece
Why don't they use their hooters to get the attention of the opposite captain or whoever is on the bridge
My bad, I listened to the video again, I was wrong. You sad 19M not 90m, my wrong. Sorry about that! I owe you one.
Blue De Nimes slows down so that Nidri Star could pass, but as they approach each other Nidri Star also slows down instead of keeping the speed, or am I wrong? If Nidris speed was kept they would have passed. Blue De Nimes should have altered it´s course to go aft of Nidri Star to show it´s intention but never did. This is what I see from the AIS data you present, reality could be another.
Hey, I’m a former Royal Navy, warship driver and instructor in the collision regulations. You could have me on anytime you need help analyzing these situations. I’m probably one of the best experts out there that there is.
Bleu de Nimes . Not Blue de Nimes
The ferry had right of way - it is a working boat. The yacht should have gone hard astern or turned away.
I'd bet that Bleu de Nimes was only looking at Ability, over which he had 'right of way'. (That's not what the rules call it, but this is UA-cam).
The passenger boat was most likely overloaded with Pax. No way this boat can hold 400+ safely
Dubi has a smog problem!
In europe a industry ship has right of way
You are very wrong. The primary rule is to have the boatie coming from starboard side to navigate. The boat on the starboard side must keep their speed/course so that the yielding ship can plan and execute their yielding procedures. The yielding boat must show that they are aware of this situation, as is the COLREG 16. And, ONLY if collision seems evident, all vessels must do everything they can to avoid collision, but that is the LAST rule to apply here.
I find it really puzzling that a yacht channel youtuber seemingly has zero knowledge of the most basic yielding rules concerning two motor yachts. Maybe taking an ICC-M-S-I certificate will help you to understand these basics.
And just to underline, there is NO priority or right of way, but there are very international and clear rules to who must yield. There are rules of the yielding boat, but NOT rules to say that one boat has some imaginery right of way. As the COLREG 7 says, before likely collision, all vessels must do everything they can to avoid the collision. That is also why maritime courts will normally make collision verdicts to be 90% fault of the yielding boat, and still 10% of the fault of the non-yielding boat, again, due to COLREG 7.
Tonnage rules! Simple as that…
The larger vessel ALWAYS has the right of way. This is because the larger vessel is generally heavier, slower and harder to stop or turn. You should know this, it is a basic maritime rule. However, if it appears the smaller vessel is not taking appropriate actions the Larger vessel captain or pilot should take action to avoid a collision and report the incident to the authorities. The ferry boat driver should have been fined or ticketed for causing a navigation danger.
Arguably with 400 plus souls on board, the ferry was likely heavier.
@@LucieSalat Overloaded does not equate to heavier. The larger ship will be heavier just in the construction of the vessel. Still, the larger vessel has right of way is the rule. You can't "see" that a vessel is heavier or overloaded, but you can see whether it is much larger. The original design of the ship that was converted to a "Super Yacht" was created for International trade, which would have significantly larger fuel tanks and probably had more weight in just fuel alone than the water weight of 400 people. So arguably, the ferry was probably not heavier, not even close. Not that that matters. Even a sailing vessel which is designed to be lighter would have the right of way if it is larger , aka longer. All vessels are steered from the rear rudder. A longer or larger vessel would take more effort and generally more time to turn the ship away from a given course already in motion in order to pivot the rear of the ship around the front bow of the ship and change it's course. In any case, the two ships should never have come that close and it is the responsibility of both captains or pilots to avoid an issue. The ferry master even more , not due to right of way or size of ship, but that fact that he had over 400 souls onboard to protect. We will probably find out in the end that this was more a matter of ego, complacency, and lack of attention from both parties. The larger ship rule is more of a navigational ships safety matter, but pales in comparison to the safety of passengers and crew. The ferry captain will probably lose his job if not his license to operate over this. The captain on the Super Yacht will also probably be let go for embarrassing the Yacht owner and endangering the crew and any guests on board.
@@cowlevelcrypto2346 all solved with just a little communication between the Captains. Based on the 3 rules outlined in the video, the ferry had the larger vessel approaching on its port side, and ought to have made an earlier avoidance manoeuvre to protect the souls on board. In the end, egos likely played a role but collateral consequences were avoided as both vessels were at 10 knots and both could see each other.