Black Steel Greathammer's Special Guard Counter is Bait - Elden Ring

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  • Basically the shockwave does so little damage its better to just go pure physical as the initial guard counter hit will just do more damage overall.

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  • @CoffeeZombi-ATL1
    @CoffeeZombi-ATL1 Місяць тому +146

    I really love that a lot of the DLC weapons have unique charge attacks or guard counters. I wish that the base game weapons had more of that, like Marais Executioner's Sword could REALLY use that.
    Edit: I was more meaning unique effects like the guard counter having a shockwave that can be infused with holy, or how the smith script weapons get thrown with heavy attacks, stuff that makes it more unique then which angle or speed the attack comes in at.

    • @ultimaabyssal2484
      @ultimaabyssal2484 Місяць тому +20

      Actually the Marai's Executioner Sword has a fully unique R2, both are downward cleaves.

    • @hugheverett3789
      @hugheverett3789 Місяць тому +3

      What other weapons have unique guard counters

    • @henrystonefist2341
      @henrystonefist2341 Місяць тому +23

      @@ultimaabyssal2484 I believe he means have the executioner's sword float around with its entire moveset rather than just the L2. Kinda like how the boss fights you instead of just being an average greatsword.

    • @argonianguy6226
      @argonianguy6226 Місяць тому +27

      @@henrystonefist2341 I think it should have had a stance Ash of War. Elden Ring really got a lot of weapons which could use a stance Ash of War like DS 3 ringed knight weapons had

    • @asdergold1
      @asdergold1 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@argonianguy6226 Less stance and more variable between light and heavy chains.

  • @rickkcir2151
    @rickkcir2151 Місяць тому +45

    Best fashion is to use this with Maliketh’s armor. They genuinely look like they belong together.

    • @ShardtheWolf
      @ShardtheWolf Місяць тому +13

      I went with maliketh + black knight helm. Looks so good

    • @radagonsoreseal3457
      @radagonsoreseal3457 Місяць тому +2

      @@ShardtheWolfomg I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought of this look.
      It’s peak black Knight fashion honestly.

    • @mazevlad2263
      @mazevlad2263 Місяць тому

      ​@@ShardtheWolf NOOOO I'M NOT ORIGINAL AAAAH

    • @79bull
      @79bull Місяць тому

      Got the fashion… and was locked out of the hammer 😭 going to start ng+ to see if it’s there this time

    • @scads2155
      @scads2155 Місяць тому

      Something else that looks really good is Black Knights helm, maliketh gauntlets and legs, and the depraved perfumer robe.

  • @ruinmaniac1411
    @ruinmaniac1411 Місяць тому +18

    The most important part is that it looks fucking SLEEK. That's a sexy hammer.

    • @radagonsoreseal3457
      @radagonsoreseal3457 Місяць тому

      Best looking hammer in the series imo it’s so damn cool.

    • @D4Deyo
      @D4Deyo Місяць тому

      How dare you offend Ledos like that 😢

  • @alexandercho717
    @alexandercho717 Місяць тому +27

    16:42 that duck under the sword swing was nuts

  • @markarmstrong8306
    @markarmstrong8306 Місяць тому +77

    This has fierce competition with Smough's hammer

    • @Belial289
      @Belial289 Місяць тому +2

      "sit on 'em smough"

  • @brudu4744
    @brudu4744 Місяць тому +6

    scott lands a successful guard counter at 18:50

  • @truedps8
    @truedps8 Місяць тому +11

    I had surprising success with this weapon and Golden Land.

    • @rafalst
      @rafalst Місяць тому +1

      Yes! Its great to bait people to and does a lot of damage!

    •  Місяць тому

      I call this setup the noobstomper. But sadly anybody versed in arts of spacing and timing will just rekt you

  • @TheUltraBeast1
    @TheUltraBeast1 Місяць тому +14

    Actually its a great idea for all colossal hammers to have aoe guard counter

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 Місяць тому +9

      You should just have a stun hitbox similar to warcry R2s so that guard counters are guaranteed or at least roll-catches for colossals otherwise you're never landing one.

    • @PowerSenpai
      @PowerSenpai Місяць тому

      This hammer is not colossal

    • @Sohelanthropus
      @Sohelanthropus Місяць тому

      Yup, just like the kirkhammer from BB, don't know why Fromsoft walked away from that design

  • @iMule
    @iMule Місяць тому +52

    >makes video about guard counter
    >doesnt guard counter

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  Місяць тому +12

      Pretty much every weapon I fought was greatsword level or higher. Sadly the actual guard of the weapon is pretty dogshit so I'm not sure when I was actually supposed to lol

    • @KRIMZONMEKANISM
      @KRIMZONMEKANISM Місяць тому +3

      @@ScottJund Doesn't the shield talisman help? Also, you could "just" bait a light attack, or infuse that weapon with Endure.

    • @kaytwo6
      @kaytwo6 Місяць тому +7

      He consistently uses weapons incorrectly then tells people they’re bad, he done the same with the Rot Halberd and Steelovsky corrected him in a recent video.
      This weapon with the deflecting hard tear is absolutely amazing for pvp.
      Edit* when using the weapon for guard counters like this, you’re best off using sacred.

    • @dutchvanderlinde248
      @dutchvanderlinde248 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@ScottJund The knights that use that hammer have a shield for a reason.

    • @PathosMythos
      @PathosMythos Місяць тому +5

      @@ScottJund Try the deflect tear! It raises your guard extremely high when blocking at just the right time (a relatively easy thing to do) and makes the following guard counter do substantially more damage. Tested and approved.

  • @lauriethethicc5430
    @lauriethethicc5430 Місяць тому +81

    Beans. That is all.

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 Місяць тому

      Rice and beans is underrated

    • @dustylittle5841
      @dustylittle5841 Місяць тому +2

      Good for you heart, and the more you eat the more you fart. 😂

    • @Is99c
      @Is99c Місяць тому +1

      I WAS EATING THOSE BEANS

    • @danielmontilla1197
      @danielmontilla1197 Місяць тому +1

      *Mindlessly nods in agreement.

    • @Santi.Ocampos
      @Santi.Ocampos Місяць тому +1

      Beeeeeeeaaaans
      What the fuuuuuuuuug

  • @acrustykrab
    @acrustykrab Місяць тому +15

    so must be pretty fun with the deflecting crystal tear!

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  Місяць тому +7

      very!

    • @connorwilcox146
      @connorwilcox146 Місяць тому +3

      @@ScottJundpls do a vid with that tear, I don’t even care what weapon you use, its so fun

    • @camiam144
      @camiam144 Місяць тому

      I went back to the base game and killed malenia with this weapon + sekiro tear. Took a bit to get the timing down for waterfowl but it was fun as heck.

    • @thedoomslayer5863
      @thedoomslayer5863 Місяць тому

      ​@@camiam144shows you how much better Sekiro combat is that just one aspect of it being added to ER instantly elevates it

  • @vulkan5790
    @vulkan5790 Місяць тому +1

    I’ve learned that when dealing with blink bolt, if you swing when you see the start up, they end up just diving directly into the attack. With Messmer’s spear(Projectile heavy my beloved) AOW on reaction to the startup hits them out with the stunning swing and then combos into flames.

  • @WeeabooPocky
    @WeeabooPocky Місяць тому +1

    i like to use it with flaming strike, if people get caught by the guardcounter, they most likely will panic roll and there's where flaming strike shines, it basicaly makes a 4 hit pseudo-combo.

  • @captainwafflezs4799
    @captainwafflezs4799 Місяць тому +11

    Fun fact. Rakshusa gkatana has stronger hyperarmor than great hammers 🙁

  • @remingtonfiore9721
    @remingtonfiore9721 Місяць тому +12

    Scrock Grund

  • @B4DDHero
    @B4DDHero Місяць тому +5

    Yooo, I mained this bad boy the moment i find it. Such a good weapon

  • @TheDrunkardHu
    @TheDrunkardHu Місяць тому

    I miss this content from you Scott. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Joandersonso
    @Joandersonso Місяць тому +2

    I feel so robbed they didn't give us a Gravity Ledo's hammer

    • @D4Deyo
      @D4Deyo Місяць тому

      Yeah when I first saw Anvil Hammer I was like... oh nice we got Ledos
      Kirkland brand Ledos that is

  • @bobbobby475
    @bobbobby475 Місяць тому

    So glad you're making Elden Ring pvp stuff. You're the only one that isn't toxic and annoying in my opinion. And when you invade you don't run away all the time

  • @paulwhailhaila7552
    @paulwhailhaila7552 Місяць тому +1

    Ravioli stepping with this bad boy and keeping a fast offhand weapon is pretty fun and covers the obvious weaknesses.

    • @PerpetuallyMalding
      @PerpetuallyMalding Місяць тому

      Is there a reason why it's called the Ravioli step? Kinda curious since the term for that tech has been around for years

    • @paulwhailhaila7552
      @paulwhailhaila7552 Місяць тому

      @@PerpetuallyMalding Not the faintest idea, all I know is it had a bunch of names but Ravioli is the one that is still with us today.

    • @PerpetuallyMalding
      @PerpetuallyMalding Місяць тому +1

      @@paulwhailhaila7552 It's probably lost to time then, oh well, still a funny name for a simple yet effective tech

  • @persnappy
    @persnappy Місяць тому +3

    I love this weapon. I have 80 fth and 80 str with two handing, so I basically change it back and forth from heavy to sacred whenever I feel like it. Sacred with sword of light and a tear makes some mean mf damage, but whenever I’m bored of buffing I can use heavy. Only issue is range, but the best things come in small packages amirite. The thickness is on point anyways tho 🤤

  • @hellxapo5740
    @hellxapo5740 Місяць тому +5

    Quite lightweight for how strong it is

  • @Joe-ve9xz
    @Joe-ve9xz Місяць тому

    That free aim frost pot throw was sick

  • @MynameisFICTION
    @MynameisFICTION Місяць тому +1

    I miss my chicken wing smelter hammer but this will do

  • @EinSilverRose
    @EinSilverRose Місяць тому +2

    Love this hammer but really wish it had the Great Mace range.

  • @mytsw
    @mytsw Місяць тому +1

    12:03 I thought that's a Lich King cosplay trying to re-animate Sindragosa. Don't know what's up with the fire serpents and the great katana though. Blade of darkness and some frost spell sounds more fitting.

  • @wAFFLES6952
    @wAFFLES6952 Місяць тому

    Every time he hyperarmors through a rolling great katana R1 all I can think is "that could've been a Barker Bomb Bait"

  • @grayrim
    @grayrim Місяць тому

    I like how cragblade on it has just one small rock on the top

  • @PotentialxHero
    @PotentialxHero Місяць тому

    This heavy + golden land AW + sacred blade adds a bit of pressure, and slaps hard AF.

  • @boof994
    @boof994 Місяць тому +2

    Shield talisman boosts weapon blocking, carian straight sword can block not colossal greatswords r1s, curved greatswords r2s, dual naginata, l1s and dual ss l1s. Granted thats with the unique r2 of the carian ss but i dont think that boosts guard at all. 2h definitley does boist stabikity as well
    And yes you can neutrsl jump the blinkbolt and if they go for the follow up spin, a neutral jump attavk will oand and interupt them

    • @twoshu8940
      @twoshu8940 Місяць тому

      That’s diff because it’s blocking damage but poising with hyper armor. It’s diff

    • @boof994
      @boof994 Місяць тому

      I don't know what you mean. He wanted guard counters, you have yo Blick to do that, he was worried about getting his guard broken so ge didn't even bother becuade he didn't use a shield. My point was saying that the stability is better than he thinks with the shield ring that he can block most things actually. He has better stability with a great hammer than my straightforward. At least he likely has more poise here than I did in my example so he could poise through attacks or at least clip them which will still deliver the full hitbox

    • @williammclyr3330
      @williammclyr3330 Місяць тому

      ​@@twoshu8940r2 of carian sword is block not ha

  •  Місяць тому

    This video should have been called Blacksteel greathammer+blacksteel greatshield. Then you could try to properly use its niche as ultimate trading tool.
    I tried that, with shield bash and its really funny. You alternate between blocking+guard countering and shield bashing as trade, after few tries enemies stop being aggressive at all and thats the time when you switch to your favorite chasedown weapon :D

  • @thehulkyman
    @thehulkyman Місяць тому +1

    Do you have any plans for colabs with other elden ring pvpers? Chase or juno would be cool

  • @Dalladrien
    @Dalladrien Місяць тому

    You can jump the twin tornado axes, you just had to jump earlier.

  • @Rubbly
    @Rubbly Місяць тому

    Hopefully poise damage of the new weapons gets updated in PvP, until then yeah you can hyper armor through most every attack from them lol

  • @4vis4
    @4vis4 Місяць тому +3

    This fucker here carried my whole dlc run, it's nice to see it in pvp. I wonder why you didn't run the deflect tear if you wanted to guard counter? It's still slow but you could try punishing a jump attack or something.

    • @Rain1
      @Rain1 Місяць тому +9

      Can't use physick in 1V1 arenas

    • @omastarofastora493
      @omastarofastora493 Місяць тому

      You can't use physick in the colosseum duel mode

    • @spiderjerusalem8505
      @spiderjerusalem8505 Місяць тому

      Do people genuinely not know about combat ordeal mode or what lol

    • @Shadow6OO
      @Shadow6OO Місяць тому +1

      Wow, no wonder the duel mode sucks ass.

    • @omastarofastora493
      @omastarofastora493 Місяць тому +1

      @@spiderjerusalem8505 Combat ordeal isn't as great for a showcase like this against different types of players/setups

  • @brad1426
    @brad1426 Місяць тому

    He beats the perfume man to death, but he feels no joy about it.
    Thank you scoot for the excellent cat brushing content.

  • @jinsu9004
    @jinsu9004 Місяць тому

    The hammer was fun in pve but there were so many occasions I was just a hair away from hitting something when with other weapons in it's class I'd know I would hit. Still a fun weapon.

  • @SaucyKakes
    @SaucyKakes Місяць тому

    use the deflect tear to get those guard counters off with it for swag, the damage boost the tear gives is nuts too

  • @skeletalspiders6697
    @skeletalspiders6697 Місяць тому

    You could run smithscript shield to make up for this thing's weaknesses.

  • @Nightmare-pj4fg
    @Nightmare-pj4fg Місяць тому

    I was really expecting this weapon to have unique r2s as well.
    Was extremely disappointed when it was just guard counters

  • @williammclyr3330
    @williammclyr3330 Місяць тому

    With sacred blade faith build could easily deal great damage with thing and you only need like 50 faith to get a softcap

  • @achaziel
    @achaziel Місяць тому

    I mean, as for guard counters you could just use the new crystal tear.

  • @eldonhill4840
    @eldonhill4840 Місяць тому

    This thing looks like it would be fun with an offhand dagger/hand axe to counter people passively reaction rolling you. I might try that tonight

    • @eldonhill4840
      @eldonhill4840 Місяць тому

      So that was fun, it worked fairly well. I added storm stomp to it in place of Cragblade (I know, I know) and just buffed with drawstring holy grease instead. Because of that I didn’t even end up needing the dagger that much since SS already worked great as a “get off my nuts” tool, especially since it seems to true combo into a greathammer R1. I still got some use out of the dagger though just to mix up timings and sneak hits in when fighting slower weapons.
      I also only had 54 strength, and while the damage was honestly still surprisingly decent, my AR unbuffed was only 746. Obviously much, much lower than what you got with effectively 99 strength. Because of that I’ll say that one-handing it definitely isn’t that great for SL 125. If you take the build to 150 and get 80 strength, the offhand setup should work really well. Fun weapon! You were definitely right about the range though, dear god.

  • @anitaremenarova6662
    @anitaremenarova6662 Місяць тому +5

    Wow, that guard counter wave sure sucks. Also don't think we didn't notice the last deleted video.

  • @Ramborc86
    @Ramborc86 Місяць тому

    Whoa Knight isn't censored anymore? Biggest buff tbh

  • @2dark4u88
    @2dark4u88 Місяць тому

    I use with a great shield so I always thought it would benefit most from a sacred infusion on a 45 str+fth

  • @KyokujiFGC
    @KyokujiFGC Місяць тому

    Offhanding a thrusting sword with this seems like it would help a lot.

  • @sovietspaceship
    @sovietspaceship Місяць тому

    the 1h moveset has substantially more range and is overall better (except for the cr1 and the lack of hyperarmour), try with a shield

  • @hobosorcerer
    @hobosorcerer Місяць тому

    Shorter greathammers really should have more forward momentum, this is silly.

  • @hsapin
    @hsapin Місяць тому

    This weapon is pretty great in PVE. Love these showcases.

  • @HeinzBeanz2002
    @HeinzBeanz2002 Місяць тому

    8:50 I KNEW I WASN’T THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED, the moment this torch becomes more popular the PVP scene will have more to worry about that a Vyke’s spear.

  • @greedsin555
    @greedsin555 Місяць тому

    off hand star fist

  • @Vally375
    @Vally375 Місяць тому

    The mic worked this time W

  • @hecc7906
    @hecc7906 Місяць тому +2

    Is there any way to make perfumes good? Been trying it and all I ever found success with was spamming the heavy backstep attack against aggressive players

    • @petercottantail7850
      @petercottantail7850 Місяць тому +1

      best bet is to wait for a patch, there's a lot of new toys in the dlc that are clearly not polished.
      usually in games id try to make bad stuff work by finding inquire advantages in them, but this dlc is clearly just a case of rushed new weapons and spells. you'll notice most things are either extremely op or just a joke, likely didn't have time when making the dlc to ensure they work correctly, but they've fixed things in base eldenring so there's no reason to think they won't do so this time too

  • @drev6572
    @drev6572 Місяць тому

    What do you think of Great Katana everyone and their mom seems to be using in duels

  • @LuckyTrout
    @LuckyTrout Місяць тому

    I feel like everyone misreads the item description it doesn't get bonus damage from sacred infusion its get a big scaling bonus from elemental infusions. Like putting the flame art infusion buffs the faith scaling from B to A it can some pretty crazy ar with the drawback of multiple elements on it.

  • @Zayd-bg1pt
    @Zayd-bg1pt Місяць тому

    If passive opponents are this weapons main weakness, would offhand throwing daggers work?

  • @drnolegs797
    @drnolegs797 Місяць тому

    Dynasts finesse iz cewl.

  • @ferbsol2334
    @ferbsol2334 Місяць тому

    With sacred blade in faith is best

  • @balmain2496
    @balmain2496 Місяць тому

    Love this weapon

  • @socordya8264
    @socordya8264 Місяць тому

    It's now much harder for great weapons to hyperarmor through each other in 1.12. There's a reddit post showing the numbers you can find with google. In 1.10 they could infinite trade into each other it was kind of stupid.

  • @jeannemoder
    @jeannemoder Місяць тому

    do these guys just not have vigor or something they're getting two shot 😅

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez Місяць тому +1

    21:21 - "I saw him take out that sacred seal and I knew his fate was sealed" is a raw-ass bar to just drop without warning

  • @mrdoomman97
    @mrdoomman97 Місяць тому +1

    greathammer moveset is 10x better 1h but obv you lose HA

  • @zowbaid89
    @zowbaid89 Місяць тому

    You’re on PlayStation????? I thought you played this on PC.

  • @FyterianTV
    @FyterianTV Місяць тому

    what is the "f me" shield? 0.o

  • @Sanji_Vinsmoke_69
    @Sanji_Vinsmoke_69 Місяць тому +4

    12:34 lmfao I swear soulsborne elitists will call anything they don't like "cheese".. ooor it's just a good strategy.. lmfao it can literally be used to call your strategy "cheese" by using throwing pots if they play defensive and then you use your hammer if they play offensive..

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  Місяць тому +6

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    • @ediot1426
      @ediot1426 Місяць тому +1

      In a game like elden ring there are alot of cheesy ways to kill people in pvp. Using a projectile when someone's playing passive against a weapon that already has trouble hitting people is not the same as dominating the entire arena with 2 spells that were barely balanced for pvp in the first place. This is all coming from somebody who hates playing pvp more than anything in elden ring!

  • @russellthechamp9236
    @russellthechamp9236 Місяць тому

    Why did you block the guy before fighting?

  • @windowsdefender7685
    @windowsdefender7685 Місяць тому

    kind of unplayable without some wiggling. people just roll

  • @radagonsoreseal3457
    @radagonsoreseal3457 Місяць тому

    Bonk

  • @devasauruswrex6251
    @devasauruswrex6251 Місяць тому

    oh cool

  • @kuma9239
    @kuma9239 Місяць тому

    18:58 bruh

  • @bruuuuuuuuhhhh
    @bruuuuuuuuhhhh Місяць тому

    Guten tag. Love this weapon.

  • @Vymix
    @Vymix Місяць тому

    200k, gg!

  • @Too-Be-Decided
    @Too-Be-Decided Місяць тому

    Scott please. I've been seeing it since the game came out.
    please remove the ARROWS

  • @slide699
    @slide699 Місяць тому

    Scott can you do Elden ring bingo

  • @bigirononmyhip3812
    @bigirononmyhip3812 Місяць тому

    Why not use the deflect tear

  • @sicklyman1
    @sicklyman1 Місяць тому +2

    what game is this

  • @killroy1117
    @killroy1117 Місяць тому

    Goodbye for a while Scott, I love your videos but can’t stand Dbd brain rot.