"The Fall of Centauri Prime" - Babylon 5 - Season 5 Episode 18 - Reaction
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"I can forgive you"
Gets me every time, they let it develop from the first time we saw him to this point. One of the many many great moments...and G`Kar owns most of them.
it's one of the greatest scenes of the show filled with great scenes, imo. It is played well on many levels. In some ways, I think it parallels the drink G'kar got for Londo in Coming of Shadows, once again, with Londo knowing something he can't tell G'Kar.
Those "just skip season five" people are robbing themselves of the full trajectory of Londo and G'kar's arc, and that's just sad.
For me, this is the single greatest moment in TV history. Moves me so powerfully every time I watch it.
Remember: the Minbari have their own sense of honor. Delenn lied about not hearing Lennier and he knows this. He lied about not saying anything, and Delenn knows this. If he is openly professing his love, he is creating problems for them both, so they're lying to protect each other's honor. Should he be doing this to begin with? No. But both their action make sense from their perspective of maintaining status within their society.
4:33: Guest star Wayne Alexander. The multipurpose weapon of Babylon 5. He already played Sebastian and Lorien, and now he plays the Drakh.
He also played the Narn "G'Dan" in "And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place" as well as the Drazi prisoner in "Intersections In Real Time"
Fun fact: We actually saw a Drakh (albeit a cadaver) all the way back in 'Ship of Tears'!
The Vorlon Homeworld opens up again in a million years, when Sol goes nova and Ironheart waits for humanity to join him
“But I can forgive you.” 😢 Gets me every time.
Londo…ah Londo…that final scene absolutely kills me!
The Drakh are now in charge of Centauri Prime. Londos walk to the ceremony and the montage was very well done.
I've always thought of this as one of b5's top ten episodes 😂😂😂
Oh well, shows how everyone has different tastes.
I liked ot better on rewatch.
Ha... It's ok, I get this is a fan favourite as well but everyone's entitled to an opinion.
Quite an under-reaction to one of the greatest scenes Andreas and Peter did in the series and one of the most powerful scenes in the entire series. Brings me to tears every time I see it in contrast.
11:25 you inserted your simping song ? Legend!!!!
I think this episode is one which I think in a second viewing of the series works much better, as I really like this one, and doesn't feel redundant, but rather, it completes the tragedy of Londo. And the books really fill in the blanks much more. Things are not exactly as they appear, as is normal with B5. I mean, wait until you learn who Vir marries...
Agreed. On rewatch, I liked it much more.
Chintzy panicked Centauri planetary defence official: "The defence drapes! They're wide open!"
I need this song on Spotify on repeat 😁
I know it was cut, but when the Regent tells Londo that he can blame him for everything, and he is ok with it, and ends it by saying I am Centauri and I am not afraid, I always go back to season 1. When Londo drunkly, and enthuastically, declares Centauri are always on duty, so they have to make pleasure a duty of their's.
In season 1, I take it as Londo became a decadent baffoon; but here in season 5, I take it as commitment to no regrets. If someone has to give their life for the Centauri Republic, they will not spend a moment saying, "if only I had more time" or "let me do this one thing first."
I really liked Crusade; shame it had such a short life.
Same fate as Firefly. Cancelled before it could air, leaving it as a fragment.
@@Nikioko And for both the episodes were aired out of order, making it confusing.
@@kevinmorbidthelostcronin1984 Yes, fragments are quite often incoherent.
Yeah, managed into cancellation by a network that changed priorities (after the idiot execs realised that the audiences they were going for didn't form much of a Venn diagram).
Londo to Draag "What do you want?"
Season 5 had a lot more exposition, filling in the blanks, etc. trying to help the new viewers on TNT. This shows up in several episodes.
Hi Maga, binge watching has now got me up to date and I am so ready to see you watch the final 4. Some great moments in this episode but many more to come. It's sad too, this episode has many fine points.
Mega.... Bro.... "Just okay"? Redundant? I mean there's a time to put emphasis on the story, and a time to put emphasis on the performance. In all of their careers, this was probably the finest 3 minutes of performance in the lives of Andreas Katsulas and Peter Jurasik. If any of us were to remember any of the work of these fine men, this is it.
I liked it better on rewatch.
We finally see Londo become the great tragic Sci-fi Shakespearean character that he was destined to become.
Who is this guy, and what did he do with Mega???
@@ifly-fsx I liked it better on rewatch. I said the londo/gkar stuff was good. 🤣
@@MegaReacts Still hurts.
There are 11 books to read, too... so not over. ;)
JMS has said most of the books should be considered apocryphal. I don't like it anymore than others because the Technomage trilogy and Centauri trilogy were awesome series. The Psi Corps trilogy was meh, but it did its job.
@@SSPerfectChaosRCT Those ones he actually considered mostly canon.
Plus, the Drennan book - and The Shadow Within.
Lost Tales only slightly overwrote the Centauri trilogy, too.
Yes, the Treaty of Versailles was the basis of what led to WWII. Because nothing is more dangerous than a humiliated, undignified nation. THe Treaty of Versailles led to the Backstab Legend and instable economy. And the instable economy led to destruction of the middle class by hyperinflation and Great Depression, which again led to the rise of fascism and the abolishment of democracy. And all the same is happening again today, but further in the East.
The Treaty of Versailles wasn't particularly harsh compared to the Brest Litovsk treaty the Germans imposed on the Russians in 1918. Russia lost territory containing a quarter of its population and nine tenths of its coal mines.
The key problem with Versailles is that the allies allowed the myth of its harshness to fester along with the fantasy that the German army hadn't been defeated.
The decision to end the war before marching into Germany allowed fringe groups like the Nazis to spin the story to their benefit.
We see Londo doing much the same here under the keeper's influence. The truth of a situation matters less than the narrative you feed your audience.
Just ok? Oh my goodness! 😮
Feels like a series that doesn't know where it's going. Starting some threads for possible future projects. I'm just happy JMS makes sure to tidy some previous stuff away and give us a few of the moments we need and a few we knew were coming but dreaded....Londo getting his keeper being a big one of those.
It was a recap episode for new viewers that didn't see seasons 1-4.
G'Kar forgiving Londo, Londo sacrificing himself for his people, and Lennier being King Of The Simps. Yeah we all knew this was all going to happen so it might feel a bit anticlimactic, because we've been expecting these moments for years. But someone was cutting onions round here with the last G'Kar/Londo scene, and Londo's walk alone in the white suit...
If you keep watching Babylon 5 related content, you will eventually run into more Technomage content. There's also a canon book trilogy about them. I really liked the first book as it has a lot of world building lore about their culture, but book 2 and 3 were kind of so-so.
Huh I thought this was one of the best episodes of the season. Won’t be another one this good until the series finale IMO. Londo/G’Kar… so, so good.
Also, as far as lennier goes... What's the minbari equivalent to a brothel 😂😂
Uh , what you mean not bright .
Advice - before watching the last episode try to at least obtain and read a synopsis of the Legions of Fire book trilogy - per JMS they are canon and will fill in some blanks that enhance the finale.
I am already done with B5. Watching Crusade now.