Competitive Yu-Gi-Oh! Is In Shambles Again.

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  • @Zwanzig92
    @Zwanzig92 7 місяців тому +425

    So, the Konami share price is currently about $61. I’m pretty sure it’s cheaper to buy enough shares to attend their AGM and complain straight to the CEO’s face, than it is to buy the top deck.

    • @CodyRockLee13
      @CodyRockLee13 7 місяців тому +47

      That's insanely funny.

    • @VladaBB
      @VladaBB 7 місяців тому +11

      No way this is true

    • @worthywill9294
      @worthywill9294 7 місяців тому +5

      👀👀👀
      That might be using your noodles there

    • @Zwanzig92
      @Zwanzig92 7 місяців тому +31

      @@VladaBB I’m reading their annual report now. They said that any shareholders could address questions to the CEO before the last AGM, and shareholders could attend virtually. I don’t know if they’ll select questions or require that you have a number of shares before you can ask a question, but I know from experience that even by owning 1 share in a company, I’ve been invited to their AGM. It’s worth a shot if you wanted to do it.

    • @sbcarnage616
      @sbcarnage616 7 місяців тому

      lmfaoo yo

  • @Truthhurts34
    @Truthhurts34 7 місяців тому +618

    Imagine no one goes to the event to prove a point.

    • @jorblor6476
      @jorblor6476 7 місяців тому +50

      Cope

    • @codynelson7575
      @codynelson7575 7 місяців тому +81

      No, it will have record attedance like all the tournaments recentlt

    • @GiovanniBallerinii
      @GiovanniBallerinii 7 місяців тому +36

      ​@@codynelson7575yea because locals are dying or no longer support yugioh

    • @codynelson7575
      @codynelson7575 7 місяців тому +23

      @@GiovanniBallerinii some locals are, some are thriving, and YCS attedance is at an all time high

    • @zaleww5824
      @zaleww5824 7 місяців тому +9

      people think others will do that to get a score and then we will have record attencance

  • @freelancegaming4582
    @freelancegaming4582 7 місяців тому +342

    My competitive motivation will come back when Rescue Hamster officially gets their senior citizen parking pass

    • @yuugael4010
      @yuugael4010 7 місяців тому +13

      What you mean rescue hamster is a "good" "modern" card so they cant be a senior

    • @illdoittomorrow2368
      @illdoittomorrow2368 7 місяців тому +3

      @@yuugael4010 8 years is not that long ago.

    • @beasthaven1571
      @beasthaven1571 7 місяців тому +1

      😅 can someone explain this to me I’m on my third day of yugioh so I’m lost what’s hamster

    • @freelancegaming4582
      @freelancegaming4582 7 місяців тому +5

      @@beasthaven1571 rescue hamster is a refugee from the original pendulum days, he's getting that windows peak now and yet Farfa still denies him the rank of master. A sad reality for the elderly of today

    • @IC-23
      @IC-23 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@beasthaven1571 Farfa called rescue hamster a "modern" card and then it became a sort of inside joke because the card released and was good in 2015.
      While the card no longer good I'm lf the opinion thst people who say it's old are ridiculous, it's dated but it has the tell-tale combo signs of modern decks its not as strong or efficient but there's a difference between why that card was played vs Elemental Hero Neos Alius Dark Armed Dragon etc

  • @jeanpitre5789
    @jeanpitre5789 7 місяців тому +94

    Its amazing vendors act like making the game accessible will make the game unprofitable. Konami can make the game cheap for players while still making it profitable for collectors the same way every other card game does it. With exclusive alt arts, rarities, and full-arts that are extremely rare specifically FOR collectors, while the base versions of such cards are available as commons and supers.

    • @tensedart3470
      @tensedart3470 7 місяців тому

      Making the Game acceptable isn't their issue. It's the Rate of people goimg to them is wgwn the money will go down. Not every person will go for the high cost stuff if they can do cheap stuff. But yeah The game should be more accessible to new people more

    • @jeanpitre5789
      @jeanpitre5789 7 місяців тому +10

      @tensedart3470 I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Are you implying collectors wouldn't go after alt-art and full art cards in exclusive rarities if konami went that route to appease both players and collectors? Because that's LITERALLY how every other card game appeases both markets and they do just fine. They could also never reprint the collectable editions of cards so they retain their value, similar to pokemon cards

    • @tensedart3470
      @tensedart3470 7 місяців тому +3

      @jeanpitre5789 I'm saying vendors are complaining about something that isn't a big deal. If more folks get into the game. Some will want to rarity bump their decks which draws to the vendors MORE.

    • @jeanpitre5789
      @jeanpitre5789 6 місяців тому +7

      @tensedart3470 that's what everyone is saying. Konami is trying to fleece the most dedicated players in order to push product, rather than doing the sensible thing and make product more appealing to a broad audience

    • @OlgaAshburne
      @OlgaAshburne 6 місяців тому +1

      @@tensedart3470 A lot of people aren't going to pocket 300 on a playset of a card for the sole reason that they cant afford it.

  • @planetofkryk
    @planetofkryk 7 місяців тому +20

    "We want to see your creativity"
    Every player who wants to win events, jamming in their deck the same ratio of fiendsmith: "huh?"

  • @MrKylef5
    @MrKylef5 7 місяців тому +164

    I said it once and I'll say it again. Give us multiple rarities of the same card with a chase card at an exclusive rarity like OP.

    • @TheSliferSlacker199
      @TheSliferSlacker199 7 місяців тому +3

      Like they did with Magia Master? Lol that was a horrible decision

    • @starbound100
      @starbound100 7 місяців тому +46

      ​@@TheSliferSlacker199no, they have us magia master ONLY as qcsr. He meant It as, make it a qcsr, but release, IN THE SAME SET, a lower versione rarity of it. Idk, make it an ultra rare, but a rarity that the majority of people can realistically afford to get.

    • @joplin4434
      @joplin4434 7 місяців тому +12

      @@TheSliferSlacker199 no, the exact other way around. In the Magia got 3 different rarities, here it got only 1. This is the case for all foils in the OCG, you can get the fancy version or the cheap version, here you only get the 3 digit ones.

    • @CyrusIsnt
      @CyrusIsnt 7 місяців тому +1

      Thats not the issue with the game

    • @apertureb2247
      @apertureb2247 7 місяців тому +35

      @@CyrusIsnt It's definitely one of the biggest ones. Price is absurdly high to get into the game because of the only 1 rarity thing.

  • @W1ggly1
    @W1ggly1 7 місяців тому +66

    I feel 1-card combos are logically the conclusion of a game without resource cards, but it's the power level of them that makes it wild.

    • @yurisei6732
      @yurisei6732 7 місяців тому +8

      Yeah 1-card combos are fine in a vacuum, the problem we're having now is that the 1-card combos are also strong and compact. The right way to do a resourceless card game is to treat these as rock paper scissors type builds - An archetype should have at maximum two of those traits, to create a trade-off: If you want to have the deck space to play a lot of hand traps, you have to run a compact and consistent engine, and that engine is going to be weak. See Trickstars, which were fine aside from the handlock combo. If you want to run a strong archetype, then it'll either not be compact or it'll not be a 1-card combo, so you aren't going to have a lot of space for handtraps. Maybe there's even strong and compact archetypes, but they're low consistency so if you fill that deck with handtraps, you have a lot of dead hands.

    • @nobushige33
      @nobushige33 6 місяців тому +7

      indeed, aleister the invoker was a 1 card combo too, but all it got you was a negate and an attack boost. The power level needs to be dialed back down tbh.

    • @yurisei6732
      @yurisei6732 6 місяців тому +3

      @@nobushige33 And the Invoked package was already kind of overpowered at the time, despite what we would now see as its limitations - only getting one negate, that negate costing a card, and requiring the normal summon to get it.

  • @dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780
    @dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780 7 місяців тому +273

    "Europe? What kind of made-up fantasy land dump is that?" ~ Konami

    • @flyer3154
      @flyer3154 7 місяців тому

      Lol

    • @UncleJrueForTue
      @UncleJrueForTue 7 місяців тому +13

      "Europe? Isn't that the place where isekaied people go?"
      - Also Konami

    • @dudono1744
      @dudono1744 7 місяців тому +2

      It's one of Jupiter's moons

    • @undeadinside3571
      @undeadinside3571 7 місяців тому

      Europe? You mean OCG land? Never heard of it

    • @sagekoko69420
      @sagekoko69420 7 місяців тому

      Why are these people so fascinated with their rope?

  • @scottmac786
    @scottmac786 7 місяців тому +178

    Hard disagree on the price point aspect.
    If you make the game more accesible to players, then more people will play, and that can increase revenue.
    As for how to keep high value cards still in the set, focus on the rare nostalgia bait cards. Those will always hold value for both players and stores.

    • @ratioed1438
      @ratioed1438 7 місяців тому

      Yeah whatever, neckbeard.

    • @unamusedrowlett6303
      @unamusedrowlett6303 7 місяців тому +48

      Exactly and make lower prints of each high rareity card(QCR/secret to ultra or super, ultra to common or rare,etc). Pokemon does this to a tee and has done for about 5 years now. there's a Greninja ex alt art going for €100 right now due to pretty art and nostalgia, I can ignore that card and go for a €10 to €1 copy of that exact Greninja ex and play the game like that. Vendors still get their expensive cardboard to sell and the players get access to the game with an option to bling out their deck if they want to.

    • @Zetact_
      @Zetact_ 7 місяців тому

      Making sets with chase cards to sell product or help vendors to make money off of singles is absolutely an important part of product design but based on the actual patterns on sites we see that people are willing to spend a premium on a card for a rarity bump.
      King's Sarcophagus is $4 for an Ultra Rare version and $70 for a QCR version, which shows that people are willing to pay over 15x for a rarity bump on a key card - for an engine that not every deck is using so demand is already lower than Fiendsmith which will be getting played in everything. You could argue that vendors are selling the Sarcophagus for cheap because they can choose to mark up Imsety a little more as a result but the same could apply to Fiendsmith cards - if Engraver was available as an Ultra and a QCR and Tract was available as a Secret and QCR it probably would be more of a parallel to Horus cards - you could sell the key card of the engine for relatively cheap and mark up the card that maximizes the engine's power, and by having both of them in a premium rarity you can also sell that for your absurd price point.
      And the thing about offering different rarities that people who are against making cards available in lower rarity is that it goes both ways. You don't just need to be making high demand cards like Fiendsmith available in Super/Ultra as well as Secret, you also can make other cards like the new Gimmick Puppets available as, like, Commons and Supers, or make some of the one-offs like the new Centur-Ion, Memento or Drytron cards (currently only Super Rares) have Secret Rare printings. This would also raise the average value of the secret rares unless the ratios change but it would still let all the cards remain fairly accessible to people who want to play them.

    • @yuugael4010
      @yuugael4010 7 місяців тому +21

      @@scottmac786 yeah I really like Ocg rarities styles where theres a variety of rarities of one card in a set instead of waiting for reprinted sets, now my tinfoil head says theres someone in tcg paying konami to have it this way

    • @apertureb2247
      @apertureb2247 7 місяців тому +14

      ​@unamusedrowlett6303 That greninja is over 200 right now mate. But ya the lower rarity one is 1 dollar.

  • @shanehaney6040
    @shanehaney6040 7 місяців тому +73

    Yugioh is never going to beat the Solitaire Allegations. Thanks Fiendsmith.

    • @zero.0-0
      @zero.0-0 7 місяців тому +7

      Every card game can have the same allegation. It's just at different levels.

    • @CyrusIsnt
      @CyrusIsnt 7 місяців тому

      Yeah if you go 1st thats damn near what every deck does unterrupted

    • @redgoesface1671
      @redgoesface1671 7 місяців тому +7

      ​@zero.0-0 this would only be true for ygo players that have no indepth understanding of other card games.

    • @meathir4921
      @meathir4921 7 місяців тому +8

      ​@@zero.0-0This really depends on the card game but many card games don't suffer from this

    • @faisfaizal5194
      @faisfaizal5194 7 місяців тому +15

      ​@@zero.0-0 Tell me what other tcgs can consistently win games in 1-2 rounds. Because every other tcgs I know are actually card games, not solitaire "try to break this board" puzzle game.

  • @martijnhertog4802
    @martijnhertog4802 7 місяців тому +30

    They delayed the needed banlist, snake eye format needed a hit.
    Rarity system should be turned to OCG or pokemon model. Both still make profit and are player friendly. Give us all cards in all raritys but shortprint even harder on the highest rarity for collectors. But everyone can play commons. The current price point is absurd.

  • @Dr.Moogle
    @Dr.Moogle 7 місяців тому +56

    This is the kind of content the community needs more of and less of the usual stuff.

  • @andysingsthings
    @andysingsthings 7 місяців тому +64

    Konami has listened a little too much to people that love Tier 0 formats. We've had (arguably) three in a row now.
    Couple this with the facts that the TCG print model is ATROCIOUS if you want to attract new players, and prize support for this game will not even help you recoup a fraction of your investment into the egregious short printed secrets you needed to top an event.
    The business model for TCG needs an insane overhaul.

    • @yurisei6732
      @yurisei6732 7 місяців тому +6

      Konami isn't listening to anyone except their shareholders. It's not about the people who love tier 0 formats, it's about the people who continue to buy cards regardless of the format - printing back-to-back tier 0 decks maximises what those "buy everything" players pay. I bet even a lot of these competitive players who say they're going to give tournaments a skip for a while will still buy the cards in case they change their mind.

  • @Abyssionknight
    @Abyssionknight 7 місяців тому +46

    I don't agree with the argument 'cards must be expensive so stores will sell the game!' after all the OCG completely disproves this all on it's own.

    • @DrewskiTheLegend
      @DrewskiTheLegend 6 місяців тому +1

      Stores got slaughtered on magic not that long ago because there were several really terrible sets in a row, and the way that distributors work, you can’t just buy the good sets. This in a game that actually has a sealed format. If nobody is buying the set because there’s no value to be had the sets won’t sell. It’s simple. Would you buy a sealed pack for more than the cards inside it are worth, when you could just buy singles for the price of those cards?

  • @faereman
    @faereman 7 місяців тому +147

    I know I'm beating a dead horse, but Konami really needs to support lower-powered formats. Variety and accessibility are very important.

    • @anakinsmith4770
      @anakinsmith4770 7 місяців тому +2

      one way would be to unban power spells and traps and hit the hand traps. people always say pot of greed is to strong but i honestly it and royal oppression maybe be necessary to fix the game i mean just look at prosperity it literally mostly in lower decks now because the top decks are far to fast to need it

    • @cummywummiez
      @cummywummiez 7 місяців тому

      @@anakinsmith4770 yeah no

    • @AcroxShadow
      @AcroxShadow 7 місяців тому +11

      Speed Duel could have been it if they actually marketed it to people outside of those already playing TCG.

    • @Igebulki
      @Igebulki 7 місяців тому +11

      @@anakinsmith4770 While something like PoG would be good for low power decks, it’s going to be used by the higher power decks. This is the same argument that is used for Maxx C being legal in Master Duel.
      Off the top of my head, I can’t think of a single deck that wouldn’t want to have an unrestricted +1 card advantage.

    • @anakinsmith4770
      @anakinsmith4770 7 місяців тому

      @@Igebulki that argument is dumb there is a reason prosperity is played over every other draw card and it will stay the same even with pot the only card that would make an impact is graceful. Think change of heart, raigeki, reborn, dragon rulers, spellbound judgement all did nothing

  • @Ether_Liner_Ado_Edem
    @Ether_Liner_Ado_Edem 7 місяців тому +9

    Fiendsmith not locking into fiends is still hilarious. W card design🤣☠️

  • @thetcgpulse
    @thetcgpulse 7 місяців тому +19

    Yugioh has hit critical mass, people waiting on a banlist to solve the issue are about to be let down. Konami do banlist based on profit not game health.
    This game not having rotation has now become a detriment instead of a feature.
    The game now base power levels on if a deck has a one card combo. That’s a terrible place to be for a TCG.
    Lastly why Konami refuses to print cards in multiple rarities In a set like most other card games is insane. It would solve so much

    • @hahathatsgreat2
      @hahathatsgreat2 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah people thinking the banlist will fix it are coping. If they don't have another $1000+ deck lined up for people to buy, they won't hit it. They know players are willing to pay for it.

  • @firstnamelastname489
    @firstnamelastname489 7 місяців тому +106

    Yep. Time to normal summon Fossil Dyna.

    • @DarkAuraLord
      @DarkAuraLord 7 місяців тому +6

      dyna gaming

    • @Creat0rXYZ
      @Creat0rXYZ 7 місяців тому +12

      Fossil dyna + time tearing morganite + deck lockdown

    • @TheFizio
      @TheFizio 7 місяців тому +7

      ​@@Creat0rXYZ Morganite + Fossil Dyna + Boarder + Golgonda

    • @Timeater
      @Timeater 7 місяців тому +7

      Domain + Erebus + March + Escalation = The Lock.

    • @jeanpitre5789
      @jeanpitre5789 7 місяців тому +1

      Crocodile Jim approves

  • @KingpinFox
    @KingpinFox 7 місяців тому +46

    No other successful card game has the same price entry issue that Yu-Gi-Oh has and still manages to survive and provide product stores want to sell.
    Let's not make up bullshit to defend this shit

    • @elizabethcruz7994
      @elizabethcruz7994 6 місяців тому +2

      Magic the gathering lol

    • @davidwelchert264
      @davidwelchert264 6 місяців тому

      You don't need $500 + in order to play mtg. You also get cards that hold value in mtg as opposed to yugioh​@@elizabethcruz7994

  • @KleptoSaber
    @KleptoSaber 7 місяців тому +124

    If you use Maxx C 2.0 (forgot its actual name) and your opp responds with ash blossom, you can chain another copy of Maxx C 2.0 again, just saying. Did not wanted to throw sth against the wall when I experienced this funny interaction 10 times in less than 4 hours btw :)

    • @r3zaful
      @r3zaful 7 місяців тому +3

      That is the idea of chummy and the newest trap from hand atribute like dominus and the newest one, its tried to punish archetypes being played as engine and forced you to play your own engine with these handtraps instead because youre not going to win the maxx c mini game anymore, like Rikka cant play the sunavalon anymore because you are now have to content 9 maxx c that youre not going to win by discarding ash blossom.

    • @daedalus5253
      @daedalus5253 7 місяців тому +12

      @@r3zafulAt that point Konami can just turn the card into an actual game rule if what they want is the card to have the highest possible chance to be active (and if they still want a randomness factor, then a easily game deciding card is the wrong place to implement it).

    • @anakinsmith4770
      @anakinsmith4770 7 місяців тому +6

      all this proves is hand traps continue to be an issue no-one refuses to admit to

    • @Draggo.
      @Draggo. 7 місяців тому +13

      @@anakinsmith4770 They're kinda a necessary evil though because the actual balanced decks can be stopped from having a ridiculously powerful turn one by them. Though that's kinda just it. Without hand traps, turn one boards are unbreakable, with them; turn two players can often just shut you down and immediately win. Really bad we got into this situation. Even worse that shit like Snake Eye uses so little engine cards and can still just absolutely destroy you through all your hand traps, and they; themselves can run way more hand traps than you can because of how small their engine is.

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee 7 місяців тому +4

      We could've just let the going second player have a london mulligan. Konami saw this as an opportunity to sell product, per usual.
      I'm going to give the format a fair shake after the banlist and release of Fuwaross, but i'm sure it'll be a hectic mess.

  • @vincentsissom4180
    @vincentsissom4180 7 місяців тому +11

    6:05 "Provided that budget players are willing to rob a bank." If your definition of budget requires robbing a bank, then either the term budget has lost any meaning, or Bill Gates might want to consider investing in Yugioh cards.

    • @tmaz9474
      @tmaz9474 7 місяців тому +1

      From Wikipedia:
      "A joke is a display of humour in which words are used within a specific and well-defined narrative structure to make people laugh and is usually not meant to be interpreted literally."

    • @vincentsissom4180
      @vincentsissom4180 7 місяців тому +1

      @@tmaz9474 I get it's a joke, I was doing a follow-up joke will the Bill Gates joke.

  • @ViroVeteruscy
    @ViroVeteruscy 7 місяців тому +17

    Set within a set just makes me think of Master Duel where half the packs you open are the main cards you're after and the other half are random cards from everywhere else

    • @dirktesla7827
      @dirktesla7827 6 місяців тому +2

      and you'd be correct. it's konami's way of bloating up how many packs you'll need to yoink too get chase cards

    • @Sidestepleft
      @Sidestepleft 6 місяців тому +1

      Difference is that you can craft instead of getting ripped off IRL

  • @JamFlexx
    @JamFlexx 7 місяців тому +23

    Pokemon does it right with pricing and rarity. Can build a deck for 30 bucks, and packs are still valuable for the bling

    • @Feraligatrfjhgujvgh
      @Feraligatrfjhgujvgh 7 місяців тому +8

      Too bad the game sucks ass

    • @YGO_Renaissance
      @YGO_Renaissance 7 місяців тому +13

      @@Feraligatrfjhgujvghsays the yugioh player. weird

    • @goldenarmour7975
      @goldenarmour7975 7 місяців тому +8

      ​@Feraligatrfjhgujvgh the game is good. Cry about it.

    • @Binzob
      @Binzob 7 місяців тому

      @@goldenarmour7975 Cope pokemon tcg has always been mid

    • @lorenzolombardi3369
      @lorenzolombardi3369 7 місяців тому +9

      ​@@Binzob better be mid then shit. Even I as a magic player can spend 30 bucks and play in tournament, how is you snake eye tier zero meta doing buddy?

  • @Merik2013
    @Merik2013 6 місяців тому +1

    I guess this is why Konami TCG made that announcement about delaying the banlist. They knew Fiendsmith could create a huge problem and wanted to see how it shook out. I expect them to come down on Snake-Eyes hard, but Fiendsmith limits are also likely.
    Also, on the price point issue for Engraver. It perfectly highlights why sites like TCGplayer need to stop doing presales. only a select few retail shops can list presales during that window and it allows them to set the price to whatever they want without normal vendors being able drive the price down during that period. In Engraver's case it was MUCH worse as it and Mulchummy Purulia were up on TCGplayers WEEKS before any of the other cards got listed. I watched as listings for Engraver went UP in price instead of down as more retailers made new listings during that period. Highest I saw it get was around $150.

  • @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz
    @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 7 місяців тому +25

    the reason stores drop the game is because packs don't sell. packs don't sell because pulling what you want from a pack is so price inefficient that secondary market one of's provide better value.
    the inflated rarities are the reason this issue exists to begin with. do you think inflating rarities further would make boxes more valuable?
    and this whole thing can be sidestepped if you just print cards with low rarity and make alt arts with high rarity anyway.
    this game is more cooked than the yugitubers that still play it e.e

    • @nsreturn1365
      @nsreturn1365 7 місяців тому +2

      this if the only cards that matter in a box are 2 secrets and you get only 2, it means you are paying 60-70 for 2 cards lmao.

    • @Efgand0894
      @Efgand0894 7 місяців тому +1

      We should have the same rarity system as OCG

    • @Tyler-Wiley
      @Tyler-Wiley 7 місяців тому

      It also makes no sense for LGS to even buy singles because of the reprints.

  • @Essrayle
    @Essrayle 7 місяців тому +5

    "Communication with Konami has been sporadic"
    More Spasmatic really.

  • @RADRyan5Ds
    @RADRyan5Ds 7 місяців тому +14

    On the price point of the game, originally and as far as I remember up until Phantom Darkness as a high schooler with very bare minimum money at my exposal I was not barred from playing anything in the game like I am now when I have other important things money needs to go towards. Literally stores will not tank if they print everything in a obtainable rarity and then have higher rarity for those that want to bling their deck out to get from the set as well. Printing something as an Ultra or Super and then making a Secret Rare print for in the set for example will still make sets fly off the shelf. This is only a TCG problem because they want to juice your wallets. Wake up. There are other TCGs out there that don't do this to you and actually respect you as a customer.

  • @ChaoticMeatballTV
    @ChaoticMeatballTV 7 місяців тому +76

    Time to go play more Elestrals I guess, I haven't touched modern in almost a year just because of how expensive everything has been, and I'm more than happy playing Elestrals and Edison.

    • @itzoptimal9726
      @itzoptimal9726 7 місяців тому +4

      Edison’s fire

    • @ArcRumbler
      @ArcRumbler 7 місяців тому +2

      Good for you

    • @martinl.7758
      @martinl.7758 7 місяців тому +4

      Elestrals would probably more interesting if the cards didn't look like some 5 year olds fever dream drawings

    • @beppe1922
      @beppe1922 7 місяців тому +1

      @ChaoticMeatballTV if you were referring to mtg's modern then yes, the format is starting to really going in shambles, as long as things like Nadu, Grief and The One Ring are around both current meta and overpricing will prevent both old and new players from enjoying the format (except whales with loads of money to waste, essentially)

    • @sanic007
      @sanic007 7 місяців тому

      ​@@martinl.7758That's not very nice.

  • @kemix1006
    @kemix1006 7 місяців тому +10

    Imagine constantly making cards that constantly one-up each other and waiting months to ban them because you don't give a fuck about the health of your formats. No wonder new players cannot get into modern yugioh, they're either priced out by the meta or don't want to spend literal weeks learning how to play through these new cards, only for MORE BROKEN SHIT TO COME OUT AND MAKE THINGS WORSE. And that's not getting into how few of these broken cards you can get PER FEW BOXES. Meanwhile, in OCG land, these cards are usually leagues more accessible and CHEAP.

  • @BlitzkriegOmega
    @BlitzkriegOmega 6 місяців тому +1

    Yeah, the whole "All Cards are Cheap" thing is what killed Force of Will, a TCG often affectionately referred to as "Magic for Poor People". Vendors refused to carry it because the boxes and cards were next to worthless.

  • @elliottreadings8029
    @elliottreadings8029 7 місяців тому +39

    I don't understand why Yu-Gi-Oh doesn't have other officially supported formats. Its what makes magic so resilient. Even if one, two formats suck, there are other good ones

    • @GiovanniBallerinii
      @GiovanniBallerinii 7 місяців тому +16

      Because actually, Yu-Gi-Oh was never good in his lifespan

    • @randomprotag9329
      @randomprotag9329 7 місяців тому +11

      that would require konami actully think about non-money factors, they did not hit a clearly broken engine let alone.

    • @Prodigial6
      @Prodigial6 7 місяців тому +1

      There are small, but active, communities for both GOAT and Edison and small tournaments still get hosted for both these retro formats. I'm sure more retro formats will be looked back on fondly over time and we may get more, but I know those two seem to be the biggest I've seen.

    • @AcroxShadow
      @AcroxShadow 7 місяців тому +4

      Speed Duel is right there, but they didn't market it properly.

    • @starbound100
      @starbound100 7 місяців тому +10

      I'll be brutally honest: because the competitive yugioh players are a bunch of elitists that refuse to try another format that Is not full power advanced because "it's not true yugioh".

  • @paranixoussouxinarap4090
    @paranixoussouxinarap4090 7 місяців тому +27

    The issue is we keep getting new cards that on their own could warrent an emergency banlist yet nothing happens instead they just add more cards.

  • @ScallopGaming
    @ScallopGaming 7 місяців тому +13

    Time to only play commander with the pals for 2 months!

  • @f687sNFM
    @f687sNFM 7 місяців тому +25

    I think people are finally hitting burnout and they are tired of how atrocious meta decks are.
    Also random cards getting support that are just made for pack filler is also in bad taste (ancient gear dragon)

  • @tomago8482
    @tomago8482 6 місяців тому +12

    I genuinely cannot return to Yugioh because of the price of a viable deck. I have a family/kids and I cannot justify dropping £400-£500 for a deck that will probably fall behind in like 4 months.

    • @theniteowl7777
      @theniteowl7777 6 місяців тому

      you dont have to play at high level events. just play at locals with cards you like using. or, just sit with buddies and play fun decks instead of expensive ones.

    • @SuperNovaX100
      @SuperNovaX100 6 місяців тому

      Just play Mimighoul

    • @aaronfromlv1552
      @aaronfromlv1552 6 місяців тому

      Lmao... locals IS regionals the only players left are the try hards that get every new deck

  • @Styxius
    @Styxius 7 місяців тому +7

    It's interesting as I don't play TCG mainly just master duel but Ive been enjoying master duel a lot honestly playing rogue decks in master is very enjoyable

    • @MansMan42069
      @MansMan42069 7 місяців тому +4

      Master Duel is obviously the superior format. All of the enjoyment with none of the investment.

    • @Styxius
      @Styxius 7 місяців тому +3

      @@MansMan42069 honestly the ban lists are just better too

  • @GrandHarrier
    @GrandHarrier 7 місяців тому +13

    #3 Price: Just copy the OCG rarity distribution.

    • @kalythai
      @kalythai 6 місяців тому

      Instructions unclear, most demanded card is now locked to rarest rarity in a diluted pool.

  • @Nephalem2002
    @Nephalem2002 7 місяців тому +2

    Compettive Yugioh was not in shambles one time, and it was The Eternal Format of March 2019-January 2020.

  • @Uhkeff
    @Uhkeff 7 місяців тому +2

    Next thing you know, “special summon from my opponents extra deck, response?”

  • @JDragon272
    @JDragon272 7 місяців тому +2

    It is, in both fields, physical cards and digital versions - which is why I’ve Retired

  • @speedcola4378
    @speedcola4378 7 місяців тому +4

    I gave up on Yu-Gi-Oh around two years ago due to the insane power creep and how expensive it got, and i do not regret that decision in the slightest lmao. Unfun and expensive metas along with Konami's inability to listen was just so mentally fatiguing and it feels so great to just not care about it anymore.
    Not sure why this popped in my recommended, glad to see Farfa is still going strong though

  • @Aniseek
    @Aniseek 3 місяці тому

    Damn i heard "banlist drop" it had me remember the good old days as a certified yugioh dubstep meme editor

  • @jonathanclark7556
    @jonathanclark7556 7 місяців тому +4

    To be able to say "again" we would of had to not been in shambles at some point in our history.

  • @geminitricks2332
    @geminitricks2332 7 місяців тому +7

    As much as we crap on the ocg ban list at least the hit the problem somewhere where as the tcg is letting the problem go untouched in the slightest

  • @zacharydobbins6267
    @zacharydobbins6267 7 місяців тому +4

    What do you mean again? It’s never stopped

  • @Billy-ot8mk
    @Billy-ot8mk 7 місяців тому +12

    They'll hit Snake Eye without a doubt and Beatrice. Don't think they'll touch the actual Fiendsmith cards as they'll be too new. Then again, they could emergency ban them later, I suppose.

    • @coders1786
      @coders1786 7 місяців тому +5

      Maybe they printed those new level 6 fusions as a Beatrice replacement for tcg so they can ban it. I could see them hitting moon of the closed sky too tbh so decks can’t bridge fiendsmith as easy

    • @Billy-ot8mk
      @Billy-ot8mk 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@coders1786 That is also possible.

    • @BikkoYGO
      @BikkoYGO 7 місяців тому

      @@coders1786 moon of the closed sky is definitely the problem. No 2 monsters should automatically bridge fiendsmith this easy... this is knightmare mermaid on crack

    • @chewdoom8415
      @chewdoom8415 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@coders1786Honestly, the worse thing you have with the fiends engine after Banning Beatrice is Caesar.

    • @ak47dragunov
      @ak47dragunov 6 місяців тому +1

      @@coders1786 A pack filler common released a couple weeks before the banlist getting insta-banned would be comedy gold.

  • @Lyricaon
    @Lyricaon 7 місяців тому +4

    Yea wake me up when Yugioh is fun again. My motivation to play this game got nuked within the last month.

  • @TeaglinR
    @TeaglinR 7 місяців тому +12

    It just sucks that because of card game monetization the Vendors and the Players will just never agree on how products should be priced.

  • @UTgohan
    @UTgohan 6 місяців тому +1

    Don’t worry people a new solitaire style deck will come out once the banlist hits

  • @Hon3yCak3Hors3
    @Hon3yCak3Hors3 7 місяців тому +2

    I think a bit differently about the Display and rarity Situation. Because if i know all the cards i want out of the display are secret rares (e.g. Fiendsmith and White Woods) i have little incent to buy a display, as I most likwly will not draw enough of them to get my moneys worth especially as therw are only two secrets per display. Did this when i started YuGiOh and mostly ended up buying like 2 to 4 displays and still had to buy the secret rares i wanted ro pull.
    If the cards I want would be lower rarity and I could actually draw them, this would feel way cooler

  • @nataliemcginnis3743
    @nataliemcginnis3743 7 місяців тому +2

    When it comes to rarity I like how Pokemon does it. Multiple rarity printings but still the same card. Can make your deck cheap or get all the expensive full arts to make it look pretty. People still going to buy boxes and cards trying to max rarity their deck but still will have option to play with cheaper versions.

  • @FirekingBarong
    @FirekingBarong 7 місяців тому +4

    Inb4 the banlist is so huge they catapult us back into Edison. I know i know, but let me have the dream of an awesomely balanced tournament ^^

  • @mapotofu1427
    @mapotofu1427 7 місяців тому +2

    TCG players finally getting the Master Duel experience.

    • @mohamedkoblawi4175
      @mohamedkoblawi4175 7 місяців тому +2

      what are you talking about we've gone from one terrible format to another for a solid 2 years now

  • @prideofjustice994
    @prideofjustice994 7 місяців тому +1

    Every single time someone says Yugioh needs to be expensive to be profitable and that it’s a uniquely ”Yugioh issue”, they all conveniently ignore that
    *A)* it’s not a ”Yugioh issue” it’s a TCG issue & *B)* the OCG proves you wrong on all fronts.

  • @LocrianDorian
    @LocrianDorian 7 місяців тому +3

    I mean, anyone that can't see that Yu-Gi-Oh is headed off a cliff is completely delusional. The power creep has gotten completely out of hand and so has Konami's greed. Especially here in the west. In Japan, and especially Korea, YGO is way more affordable at least, so at least people can keep up a little better with the constant barrage of new overpowered sets.

  • @BoosterGoldy
    @BoosterGoldy 6 місяців тому

    i felt my heart cry with that block dragon joke in the beginning. you got me Farfa cause i got so excited

  • @DBOYZPOSSÉ
    @DBOYZPOSSÉ 6 місяців тому

    I cant believe how much easier it was to break an uninterrupted ishizu tearlament board at full power than it is to break a fiendsmith board after several handtraps.

  • @SDREHXC
    @SDREHXC 6 місяців тому

    Wow the 35th video this year about how competitive yugioh is threatened by itself. How exciting, how fresh. Great content guys keep it up.

  • @cale5345
    @cale5345 7 місяців тому +2

    Game has been devolving into this kind of state for ages but people have still played it for all of these years, it'll probably be fine
    In my opinion, the last time the game was fun was before links dropped

  • @ДаниилТолмачёв-ж2ы
    @ДаниилТолмачёв-ж2ы 6 місяців тому +1

    #TakeyourhandsOffFromApollousa #BringBackSavageBaronne

  • @jkid1134
    @jkid1134 7 місяців тому +2

    Reminder that MTG boxes sell because they are draftable, i.e. not only do you get cards but you get to play a fun game

  • @shiredude87
    @shiredude87 7 місяців тому +5

    its not really different in terms of new archtypes being locked behind secret rares, the prices of those secret rares have just gone through the roof because of the power scale

  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 7 місяців тому +1

    you know the situation is dire when competitive yugioh players are dropping out of the tournaments

  • @majestyblade8570
    @majestyblade8570 6 місяців тому

    Really enjoyed this video. I always like it when he has more serious types of videos with tiny sprinkles of jokes

  • @RexWrecks
    @RexWrecks 7 місяців тому +22

    How much crazier does power creep get?

    • @GuilhermeDiGiorgi
      @GuilhermeDiGiorgi 7 місяців тому +6

      We still have ways to go, how about main deck monsters that special summon themselves from the deck like links. How about deck traps (monsters that send themselves from deck to the graveyard if the conditions apply to stop the opponent). More spells and traps that you can't respond to (yaaay, interaction). Links/synchros/fusions that take two monsters from the deck to make. More cards that search in a way you can't Ash (how about sending it from deck to field then hand? No ash for you). How about starter and extender cards that you can special summon from the GY just by being there. How about an archetype that plays from the deck (a starter that says "if you control no cards special summon this card from deck/hand/GY"). A floodgate that says "all cards send to the opponent's GY are banished face down instead"). A card that says "everycard that leaves the field/hand or deck leaves the game instead". See, we still have ways.

    • @shapular
      @shapular 7 місяців тому +2

      We still don't have a spell speed 3 monster effect or monsters that can attack in the main phase.

    • @floooowandereese
      @floooowandereese 7 місяців тому

      Until Tearlaments Ishizu stops becoming best deck of all time.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 7 місяців тому

      When Maxx C stops being OP because the deck is so consistent due to handtraps no longer holding decks back... And I would say we're reaching that point, which is a problem. The future seems like "Can't be interrupted" cards, because that's the only way you play though so much interruption.

    • @Mojo1800
      @Mojo1800 6 місяців тому

      Probably when archetypes can play on each other's turn on turn 0. No matter who wins the dice roll both players can try and establish a board. Tear ishizu kind of already did this but taken to a more extreme degree.

  • @Swordsman99k
    @Swordsman99k 7 місяців тому +56

    BUT BUT BUT banning Barone and Savage dragon fixed the game 😢😢😢😢

    • @spicymemes7458
      @spicymemes7458 7 місяців тому +26

      No, but it was funny to watch people unravel over it.

    • @GiovanniBallerinii
      @GiovanniBallerinii 7 місяців тому +4

      I mean, they have to ban IP and SP

    • @HotRed00
      @HotRed00 7 місяців тому +17

      It did nothing but kill rogue decks

    • @cummywummiez
      @cummywummiez 7 місяців тому

      @@GiovanniBallerinii sp wont be for a while

    • @cummywummiez
      @cummywummiez 7 місяців тому

      @@HotRed00 wrong

  • @TheNewblade1
    @TheNewblade1 7 місяців тому +25

    It's not hard for Konami to design sets that retain value while not gatekeeping competitive play. How does Konami benefit from little timmy pulling a fiendsmith at Walmart then training it for a 20$ dmagician core at locals?

    • @chewdoom8415
      @chewdoom8415 7 місяців тому +2

      Walmart has sold their product at that point, which benefits them

  • @kenpokid10
    @kenpokid10 7 місяців тому

    Komoney forgot that you're not allowed to determine the outcome of a match by rolling dice to see who wins

  • @ErosIRL
    @ErosIRL 7 місяців тому

    Farfa every format: “where’s the banlist”

  • @StardustTCG
    @StardustTCG 7 місяців тому +1

    Think the main problem is that they keep making these archetypes that can be splashed into other decks like Kashtira, Snake Eye and Horus.

  • @PunchM3
    @PunchM3 7 місяців тому

    It’s like having multiple rarities of each card in the set fixes it, like how the higher the rarity the more expensive

  • @shadowmarez7457
    @shadowmarez7457 7 місяців тому +2

    Create Broken Card.
    Make Card Expensive.
    Ban that Card Months Later.
    Create Broken Card....

  • @kchan5048
    @kchan5048 7 місяців тому +1

    The answer to the high rarity tier deck cores is simple: just print every secret and ultra card into EVERY rarity like they do in OCG. That way there's easy access for gameplay, and vendors/shops can retain box value because of max rarity value.
    Why TCG wont adopt this product set up like OCG is beyond me, while MTG and Pokemon TCG have done that for YEARS. Just look at the alt art cards

  • @bryaninmiami
    @bryaninmiami 6 місяців тому +3

    It’s almost like Yu-Gi-Oh was badly designed from the start and it’s just been years and years of patches

  • @happygenerously6008
    @happygenerously6008 6 місяців тому +1

    1. Top prizes dont cover trip cost.
    2. 1 card combos and playing on your opponents turn gets hella old.
    3. The game isnt fun anymore at locals anymore which is why people are switching.

  • @NothingKingKN
    @NothingKingKN 7 місяців тому

    Our local game store also refuses to buy cards on markets on behalf of the client, because they don't want to risk having their client buy a card who is going to crash in price in a couple of weeks.

  • @broww.
    @broww. 7 місяців тому +1

    The one thing I disagree with is your final part, every runick stun mirror match I've played has actually been some of the most fun yugioh I've played XD.

  • @kalythai
    @kalythai 6 місяців тому

    They should implement the Forbidden Memories rule where you are only allowed to play one card per turn. That would make the game last more than one turn.

  • @yohansudario
    @yohansudario 7 місяців тому +3

    This format of bringing news is a good Format of vídeo I hope more videos in this format

  • @rare2156
    @rare2156 7 місяців тому +1

    Dear Lord Baby Jesus in your sweet little manger please give me some new Kozmo cards

  • @cherrycardoza405
    @cherrycardoza405 6 місяців тому

    Something I have noticed from watching people open old boxed like LOB and IOC, compared to new sets, a lot of their generic powerful cards like compulsory evacuation device, pot of greed, and trap hole etc were commens and rares. A lot of the chase cards that were secrets and ultimates could also be pulled as supers and rares too. Newer sets exclusively lock the best cards behing ultra and secrets, making them harder to acess as a pack pull or a singles buy, thus making the game overall more expensive to play. A lot of the modern commons and rares are not as good as they used to be, those that are, are those that belong to an archetype (which are usually no good to a new player unless they choose to invest into the one archetype). Older yugioh usually punished you for choosing one archetype because the support was lacking or low power compared to the generic staples during the time period. But you could still have a decent time playing either way because the best cards were not so cost prohibitive. Older reprint sets would reprint good/staple cards that were previously ultras and secrets before as commons, rares, and supers [dark beginning comes to mind]. Now, even the reprint sets tend to, but not always, lock reprint behind high rarity. Its gotten to the point where Structure decks are the most reliable way to get high power reprints, yet SDs have come at a snails pace if they come out at all. Cause they are likely to get chopped up and turned into garbage sets were once .10 cent cards and 1 note cards are turned to 40 note cards (EX, Pheonix Gearfreed and its supports in Toon chaos, Astrograph Magician in Pendulum Evolution, Overlay universe, the original Diabolos dragon, etc.). And if they manage to release in the TCG without being butchered into a tcg only set, there is no garuntee that they will be good (Crystal beasts, Cyberdarks, etc), where at one point, 3x SDs decks were viable not only as a kitchen table deck but at times meta contenders (both monarch decks, Dinosmashers, Endymion, Felgrand Dragons, etc).These are multiple reasons, but not the only ones, as to why the game has gotten cost prohibitive to everyone, but especially new/budget players.

  • @SproutFarms
    @SproutFarms 7 місяців тому +3

    Yeah, I will just dick around in locals for now.
    My store is running some side event for new and returning players were old and/or successful players coach others. Gonna help out with that.

  • @Creepy___
    @Creepy___ 7 місяців тому

    This is a good video to watch while I sleeve out my last remaining deck and quit the physical tcg forever

  • @lcDer2
    @lcDer2 7 місяців тому

    This why im glad im a casual player i don't have to worry about any of this😂

  • @jenkins464
    @jenkins464 7 місяців тому

    I always love it when the same thing keeps happening over and over again

  • @alexj0409
    @alexj0409 7 місяців тому

    Yugioh picking up the trait that Pokemon has been doing for over 10 years with the "side set."

  • @EC-rk2zl
    @EC-rk2zl 7 місяців тому +1

    Multiple rarities. Thats literally it. They USED TO do it all the time in the earlier sets especially GX. Konami JAPAN even does it themselves.

    • @jtalkalot19
      @jtalkalot19 6 місяців тому

      You may be slightly misremembering because it was and only has been ultimate rares up until late 2015. Your expensive staple would occasionally have a more expensive higher rarity. And back in the day of GX, all your terrible pack filler rares and super rares could also be an Ultimate rare as well, up until TAEV in 2007. And there was ghost rares too but that only started in 2007 in TAEV too, most of the time it would be the medicore cover card.

  • @enchorialdude2721
    @enchorialdude2721 6 місяців тому

    At this point, I think Konami TCG is just purging all casual and alt format budget players, and just keeping the whales that will be able to afford the next $1000 meta deck every three months.

  • @serebiipalmer740
    @serebiipalmer740 7 місяців тому +8

    Tearlaments
    Kashtira
    Snake-Eyes
    Fiendsmith
    and so on and so forth… 😭

    • @fnfgammer2014
      @fnfgammer2014 7 місяців тому +1

      People are coping, the game haven't been good since 2018. There are seldomly some good formats but even "good" formats like TOSS and Bologna 2023 suck and only a vocal minority actually like them.

  • @Vuhduhlol
    @Vuhduhlol 7 місяців тому +1

    I dont understand how the people who designed fiendsmith still have their job

  • @TuesdaySFD
    @TuesdaySFD 6 місяців тому

    Oh, joy, Speed Duel getting dropped just as I decide to pick it up

  • @Timeater
    @Timeater 7 місяців тому +13

    Well, as far as I remember, Jess was 16-0 before losing at the very end in her last tournament. Anyone would've felt in shambles after that.

    • @Young_space
      @Young_space 7 місяців тому +15

      His last**

    • @GuilhermeDiGiorgi
      @GuilhermeDiGiorgi 7 місяців тому +7

      Combo player that negates others out of the game lost the dice roll and lost to a combo player that locks others out of the game, boo fucking hoo

    • @travisdinham6084
      @travisdinham6084 7 місяців тому

      ​@rickmel09 He is a dude bro 💀 would you bang "Jess"? LMAO

    • @ccjl9160
      @ccjl9160 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Young_spacethoughts and prayers for the worst things to befall you

    • @RuneKillerz109
      @RuneKillerz109 7 місяців тому +2

      @@GuilhermeDiGiorgi Me when i dunno what i'm talking about but wanna be heard anyways (i too am an arsehole).

  • @skipperdmudkipz
    @skipperdmudkipz 7 місяців тому

    Maxx C 2.0 sucks because you can use another if you draw into it and go +2 per summon, so fun. Had this wonderful interaction at locals today, I love this game. :)

  • @cullenasaro2229
    @cullenasaro2229 6 місяців тому

    I wonder how everyone feels after seeing the results from the EU tournament.

  • @ano2846
    @ano2846 7 місяців тому

    Believe it or not, every single problem with this format could be solved with one, simple action: unbanning Kitkallos

  • @quickdraw5252
    @quickdraw5252 7 місяців тому +2

    Damnnnnn this video is crazy, anyways normal summon Paidra

  • @randomprotag9329
    @randomprotag9329 7 місяців тому +4

    yugioh is kept alive though the brand more than the actual game. the actual game would fail if any new game launched in this state. my recomendation for yugioh players is to switch to pokemon it still allows no mana system popping of but its not as turn 1 reliant when games reliabily go past turn 3.

    • @bansheebrethren797
      @bansheebrethren797 7 місяців тому +4

      I hate set rotation tho. I like to when my stuff is always useable

    • @Binzob
      @Binzob 7 місяців тому +4

      pokemon tcg is also only alive thanks to the brand lol.

    • @nsreturn1365
      @nsreturn1365 7 місяців тому

      @@Binzob and its the only tcg kids can play and afford reliably. i did say it has a fine spot. + once th cards are out of rotation some spike insanly hard.

  • @DICEBOY22
    @DICEBOY22 6 місяців тому

    Dark Beckoning Beast literally just looks like a certain Gen 5 Pokemon but with Wings ( name escapes me ).
    Edit: Haxorus

  • @Uhkeff
    @Uhkeff 7 місяців тому

    This yugioh formate feels like the Olympics but every single person took as much steroids as the physically could to see how far people could actually go.

  • @johnnyhall9154
    @johnnyhall9154 7 місяців тому +1

    Jess is just mad she can't 3peat with plants