I am always impressed at how ingenious and creative the men were who designed and actually built these water powered saw & grist mills. I wonder how long it took to build this mill? Yep, times were a lot slower then, and it shows in the quality of the workmanship. And the lumber...wow...not your Home Depot lumber, that's for sure...back then, 2 x 4's were real 2 x 4's....not some cheap quality wood and considerably smaller than a 2 x 4. Thanks, Herb, for this wonderful look at this mill.
Thank for comments. We have a smaller water-powered sash sawmill at Leonard's Mills in Bradley, Maine. It took volunteers many years to get it running properly. Here is a video of it sawing lumber last weekend: ua-cam.com/video/30tBXWrZrH0/v-deo.html
The other reason for the change in size is the change in the whole sawmilling industry, back when sawmills like this were popular the wood would be transported through the water and often times sit in the water up to a year, as a result of this the way the wood dries was very different meaning it would stay the same size as it is milled exactly, today 2x4 lumber is cut to approx 2x4 then kiln dried, and warps and twists in this process which requires finishing to bring to a useable piece of lumber (less than 2x4)
iliketobuildstuff....Thanks for the information. So...if today's mills know that a kiln dried 2 x 4 will actually come out at 1 1/2 x 3 1/2, then they could just as easily start with a larger dimension timber and have it finished to a true 2 x 4. But if they did that, they would not get as much profit out of a log. Yea, sounds rather cynical, but that's the way the almighty 'bottom line' philosophy is today.
It is not a law that they have to be slower. Making them go really fast would just wear things out faster. But there are other ways such as increasing the number of blades so that you can cut the same amount of wood at one time, but by using multiple saws.
iliketobuildstuff I work at a saw mill, and trust me, we aren’t trying to scam consumers. A modern 2x4 is 1 1/2” by 3 1/2”. Thats the international standard for construction. If mills started cranking out full 2x4’s, carpenters would have to learn a new scale for laying out their frames. I know every saw mill is different, but at ours, me recycle all of our waste cuts, either to mulch, chips, or firewood, so we aren’t really concerned about squeezing the most we can out of every log.
Thanks so much for the video...me and my wife are only in our 30's but still love seeing the ways of the good ol' days and even talk about if only we could go back to those times. Amazes us how there is nearly 215,000 views on your video but only a little over 1,000 people even thought to leave it a thumbs up!
Thank you for your comment. I volunteer at Leonard's Mills in Bradley, Maine where we have a similar but smaller water powered sawmill that we run in the summer. It is a joy to work with. Come visit sometime if you have a chance. ua-cam.com/video/O2fESvZ9vOg/v-deo.html
First "industrial" place I ever visited as a kid. The blacksmith shop was my favorite. Now I'm a Millwright, Machinst & Welder. Excellent place for kids.
Was playing Kingdom Come Deliverance this morning and noticed this device near Sasau Monestary along the river. Now I found this video. Amazing. Thanks for uploading this.
Great mill, the saw machinery looks similar to what was used in the Dutch wind mills, brilliant to see these mills still working, ingenious design, out forefathers sure were clever. I've always wanted to own a water powered weaving and spinning mill
Thanks for your comment. We have a similar water-powered sawmill at Leonard's Mills in Bradley, Maine. We just posted a description of the technical details you might enjoy: www.maineforestandloggingmuseum.org/…/Leonards-Mills…
Thanks for the advice. We have a similar sawmill at the Maine Forest and Logging Museum in Maine with wooden gears. The teeth appear to be rock maple and are holding up well.
not really primitive as such, it's actually built through education/knowledge. primitive would be how the American Indians made arrow-heads. *being square, pardon me.
i wouldnt really call it primitive. we use the same technology now in wood shop tools. the only actual difference is the source of rotation/torque. one uses a water wheel and current tools use an electric motor. outside of that the designs havent really changed in basic design in millennia. open up any lathe some time youll see even now you can run them off any belt driven system.
Fantastic! I love these old machines, I would love to work there, explaining the machinery and doing the repairs. My friend in Southern Ohio, resurrected a semi-portable, 1900s era saw mill with a steel blade, it would have been powered by a semi-portable steam engine, it its day. He powered his by a power-take-off, on the back of a 1945 Jeep. He made an ok living cutting railroad ties, and wood benches for small sport stadiums.
I visited the mill years ago and have always wanted to build a smaller water powered saw from scratch , ill get round to it one day. the settlement is outstanding. I see some people commented on how slow it was. I thought that was the genius part of the mechanism for its time that it stopped hand sawyers breaking their backs. if I still lived down the road to kings landing I have to spend every spare hour I have in the settlement as a volunteer.
This is a very impressive structure and machine. Seeing it in real life is really neat. Overall, Kings Landing is a interesting place to learn about life as a settler in North America.
Very educational and interesting ! Things such as this are falling away from historical facts and memory. In this instance, this is an informative video!
Thanks for your comment. You can see another water powered sawmill running this summer at Leonard's Mills in Bradley, Maine. Here is a link to their website: www.maineforestandloggingmuseum.org/
They are not forced to sit at a desk or assembly line all day, attend useless meetings, bad lighting, sick buildings, with people that don't like each other and the constant threat of losing your job due to office politics and an ass-kissing middle manager looking to get promoted by any means necessary.
The first water-powered sawmill in North America was in what is now Maine in the 1620s, but it was on the Great Works River in what is now York County, the southernmost county in the state of Maine.
@@sullivanpecharka3830 Exactly... no one needs to be so hard on someone else just for asking a question that they sincerely want to know and not just goofing around with it .
Originally there was probably a water source higher than the mill to replenish the pond. Later, the pumps may have been steam powered, and still later powered by one or two stationary engines probably powered by gasoline.
went to France, I visited the Vosges country. I saw the same sawmills. Energy was water, and many of these sawmills are still spinning. In French, they are called: Scierie à Haut Fer
I'm surprised how much torque that water wheel delivers, seeing how it goes from a big -> small gear ratio and then that directly drives the saw mechanism. And it's all wood-on-wood too. I can see why water wheels were used for a long time for textile mills, besides the constant speed with varying load thing.
@@Lestat3721 Hey doofus, these waterwheel-powered sawmills haven't been around for a couple thousand years and so it's obvious to anyone with common sense to see where T Wal was coming from
@@get-the-lead-out.4593 That particular one, no, but by the time this particular one was made, they were already in use for a couple thousand years. It'd be like someone calling the new Ford car a miracle, because it is the new model.
@@Lestat3721 Huh? What? lol well I'm not trying to be mean but I an all seriousness you got your head shoved a little much up your butt....you're now saying no not that particular water-powered saw mill, when it's that particular saw mill being the one that is the whole focus of T Wal's comment and the particular one being the point here as well ...and as for your astray analogy of the Ford car that youre using to back up your logic, there are in FACT times that car manufactures including Ford will bring out a new model that has totally amazing technology, features, designs, etc etc and yes called or looked at as a miracle by MILLIONS of advertisements, magazine articles, news headlines, and then by millions of people and one reason being that although the car itself is no longer seen by 99% of people as a miracle, the technology, features, designs, etc etc that have been developed for them are often seen as a miracle. Another important thing to keep in mind is that T Wal's comment is based on the people's perspective back 400 years ago who many of them would see this as a miracle, and so you have to imagine back then how they didn't have all these ways to see things all around the world to see/know about all the other waterwheel saw mills that may have been built with the same things. They had horse and buggy style transportation and so wasn't like they took vacations to go see a bunch of them whereby being desensitized to there miracle-like attributes , and thus when this saw mill was built, it was something large, amazing, fascinating, new or at least newer, and yes even a miracle or at least in a sense a miracle especially when the people knew how much their town's saw mill would provide the much needed lumber for them right where they could have easy access to it and could build their town's other needs from the revenue it created...and also so no more traveling far to other towns to get lumber or having the labor-intensive task of making their own with basic tools in comparison to having a saw mill, etc etc
They just grew a new tree the size of board they needed. On a more serious side note, definitely very cool and looking at the swarf it seems evident that the feed rate is set really low.
There's remains of old cornmill in North Yorkshire, UK, that has a horizontal mainwheel driven by a pinion from the disappeared waterwheel. The teeth of the mainwheel are made of wood but apple was the preferred wood.
1.20 into the video. I'm really interested in the uneven wear on the teeth; 240 total teeth on the primary ,20 on the secondary. I've been to loads of water and windmills in the UK and all the ones i have seen have even wear due to the primary and secondary teeth count being non devisible. i.e. 241 teeth primary ,19 teeth secondary . This way all the teeth mesh with all the others as the teeth precess rather than the same clusters meshing together . I was told this non division of teeth was well known by millwrights and car gearbox gears are also non devisible apparently ? for the same reason.
Thank you for the good observation. Claude who runs this mill sent back the following reply: Why the trundle is using a lot is the gauge wheel is moving too much and using the trundle is getting used more.The teeth are not hitting the same spot each time so the 20 trundle is using more.The mill is getting too old. From claude I hope that answer that question you had.
@@herbcrosby Many thanks for the reply . I went to a backshot mill in Cambridgeshire (UK) last year and the volunteer let me count the teeth (bit obsessive i know) and the teeth count on the primary and secondary gear wheels were both prime numbers (one was 19) . I had a chat with him about what i'd read on non-divisible gear ratios for even wear patterns . He had not heard that and thought it was perhaps just by chance the way the gear teeth had been divided up. Marking out a gear wheel for 19 teeth (or any prime number) is very tricky to do and probably deliberate . Much easier to pick numbers that divide into 360
@@simonharper4199 Thanks for the thoughtful observations on gear tooth design for wooden gears. Suspect this is less of a concern now with precision machined steel gears. Claude sent an additional email stating the King's Landing sawmill is now 45 yers old, well past it's expected life: A sawmill like this set up in the 1800 hundred was suppose to last about 20 to 25 years and ours been running been 45 years so the machinery is getting to old that why its wearing to much everywere.
Kings Landing museum was built when they dammed the Saint John river for the Mactaquac power project.The land upstream was bought from the people and demolished.Some of it was saved for Kings Landing.They keep the old buildings as close to the pioneers as possible.A great place to visit for a day(look it up online).Kids and adults will love it.I live in Moncton,so am not that far from it.By the way,I believe these were called 'jack-knife mills by some of the older locals.
I'm guessing from the rate of lumbar production the mill enjoys but, uh...the mill didn't cut any of the wood used in it's construction did it? It looks like it's cuts one pre-fabricated/pre-milled timber at a rate of 1 inch per 6 months. I think it should be retired and made in to a cheese factory.
In the UK, I have heard it said thay use Applewood for the TEETH on the cogs, as its more durable, they say oak is too hard and abrasive, give it a try.
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I am always impressed at how ingenious and creative the men were who designed and actually built these water powered saw & grist mills. I wonder how long it took to build this mill? Yep, times were a lot slower then, and it shows in the quality of the workmanship. And the lumber...wow...not your Home Depot lumber, that's for sure...back then, 2 x 4's were real 2 x 4's....not some cheap quality wood and considerably smaller than a 2 x 4. Thanks, Herb, for this wonderful look at this mill.
Thank for comments. We have a smaller water-powered sash sawmill at Leonard's Mills in Bradley, Maine. It took volunteers many years to get it running properly. Here is a video of it sawing lumber last weekend: ua-cam.com/video/30tBXWrZrH0/v-deo.html
The other reason for the change in size is the change in the whole sawmilling industry, back when sawmills like this were popular the wood would be transported through the water and often times sit in the water up to a year, as a result of this the way the wood dries was very different meaning it would stay the same size as it is milled exactly, today 2x4 lumber is cut to approx 2x4 then kiln dried, and warps and twists in this process which requires finishing to bring to a useable piece of lumber (less than 2x4)
iliketobuildstuff....Thanks for the information. So...if today's mills know that a kiln dried 2 x 4 will actually come out at 1 1/2 x 3 1/2, then they could just as easily start with a larger dimension timber and have it finished to a true 2 x 4. But if they did that, they would not get as much profit out of a log. Yea, sounds rather cynical, but that's the way the almighty 'bottom line' philosophy is today.
It is not a law that they have to be slower. Making them go really fast would just wear things out faster. But there are other ways such as increasing the number of blades so that you can cut the same amount of wood at one time, but by using multiple saws.
iliketobuildstuff I work at a saw mill, and trust me, we aren’t trying to scam consumers. A modern 2x4 is 1 1/2” by 3 1/2”. Thats the international standard for construction. If mills started cranking out full 2x4’s, carpenters would have to learn a new scale for laying out their frames. I know every saw mill is different, but at ours, me recycle all of our waste cuts, either to mulch, chips, or firewood, so we aren’t really concerned about squeezing the most we can out of every log.
I visited when my daughter was 8 year’s old. At 28 she stills remember this fabulous outing.
Thanks so much for the video...me and my wife are only in our 30's but still love seeing the ways of the good ol' days and even talk about if only we could go back to those times.
Amazes us how there is nearly 215,000 views on your video but only a little over 1,000 people even thought to leave it a thumbs up!
Thank you for your comment. I volunteer at Leonard's Mills in Bradley, Maine where we have a similar but smaller water powered sawmill that we run in the summer. It is a joy to work with. Come visit sometime if you have a chance. ua-cam.com/video/O2fESvZ9vOg/v-deo.html
First "industrial" place I ever visited as a kid. The blacksmith shop was my favorite. Now I'm a Millwright, Machinst & Welder. Excellent place for kids.
So milling was a gateway trade?
Where is this at??
This is crazy i live in NB
Legend has it that this mill has been cutting the same peice of wood for over 3 centuries
No fair ... lol!
Haha
I like it. Know why it’s clean, good clean fun! No body gets hurt
All the wood at that place is cut in that mill, it takes minutes
Hey at least it can work 24/7 and not take breaks haha.
Was playing Kingdom Come Deliverance this morning and noticed this device near Sasau Monestary along the river. Now I found this video. Amazing. Thanks for uploading this.
Great mill, the saw machinery looks similar to what was used in the Dutch wind mills, brilliant to see these mills still working, ingenious design, out forefathers sure were clever. I've always wanted to own a water powered weaving and spinning mill
At one time these were state of the art high tech. In some ways they still are.
Great educational video.
Thank you.
Thanks for your comment. We have a similar water-powered sawmill at Leonard's Mills in Bradley, Maine. We just posted a description of the technical details you might enjoy:
www.maineforestandloggingmuseum.org/…/Leonards-Mills…
In its day, these mills saved a lot of backs. Plus they were faster then by hand.
There's something to love about primitive technology!
Thanks for the advice. We have a similar sawmill at the Maine Forest and Logging Museum in Maine with wooden gears. The teeth appear to be rock maple and are holding up well.
not really primitive as such, it's actually built through education/knowledge. primitive would be how the American Indians made arrow-heads. *being square, pardon me.
Kyle Bittle not primitive at all there are wheels and axels , inclined plans and levers on the Space Shuttle......
i wouldnt really call it primitive. we use the same technology now in wood shop tools. the only actual difference is the source of rotation/torque. one uses a water wheel and current tools use an electric motor. outside of that the designs havent really changed in basic design in millennia. open up any lathe some time youll see even now you can run them off any belt driven system.
In what world is this primitive
Fantastic! I love these old machines, I would love to work there, explaining the machinery and doing the repairs. My friend in Southern Ohio, resurrected a semi-portable, 1900s era saw mill with a steel blade, it would have been powered by a semi-portable steam engine, it its day. He powered his by a power-take-off, on the back of a 1945 Jeep. He made an ok living cutting railroad ties, and wood benches for small sport stadiums.
By far the coolest thing I've seen in a long time! Thanks!
Fascinating! I could easily spend all day there. Are they by chance taking any job applications? The scenery there is Absolutely Gorgeous!
Kings landing is p outstanding.The setting, is fabulous. The sawmill is incredible. Its truly heavy duty.
Simply awesome. I love old things and lumber. Combine the two and I’m in Heaven.
I visited the mill years ago and have always wanted to build a smaller water powered saw from scratch , ill get round to it one day.
the settlement is outstanding. I see some people commented on how slow it was. I thought that was the genius part of the mechanism for its time that it stopped hand sawyers breaking their backs. if I still lived down the road to kings landing I have to spend every spare hour I have in the settlement as a volunteer.
This is a very impressive structure and machine. Seeing it in real life is really neat.
Overall, Kings Landing is a interesting place to learn about life as a settler in North America.
Very educational and interesting ! Things such as this are falling away from historical facts and memory. In this instance, this is an informative video!
Thanks for your comment. You can see another water powered sawmill running this summer at Leonard's Mills in Bradley, Maine. Here is a link to their website:
www.maineforestandloggingmuseum.org/
Come from a long line of Mill operators, never saw a fancy boy in a pair of slacks and vest in a mill. :)
I just love Kings Landing. When I was a kid I wished that I could live there. Now I’m a history teacher...and I still wish I could live there.
Does this mill have a practical use or was it just built as an attraction? I wouldn't think that this mill has been around that long.
This mill is a recreation to show the importance of water-powered mills in the past. Maine had 2000 water powered mills in 1850.
@@herbcrosbyThat makes more sense. Seems like an incredibly slow process but I guess its innovative and obviously got the job done.
A fascinating look into the past AND the present! Thanks for making this video and your informative explanation!
Listening to that noise all day for how many years. Not one work place shooting. What has this world come too. We're all going backwards.
They are not forced to sit at a desk or assembly line all day, attend useless meetings, bad lighting, sick buildings, with people that don't like each other and the constant threat of losing your job due to office politics and an ass-kissing middle manager looking to get promoted by any means necessary.
@@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 Well said 👍
Guns don't kill people but sawmills with a gun do.
True craftsmanship at its finest. What a treasure.
The first water-powered sawmill in North America was in what is now Maine in the 1620s, but it was on the Great Works River in what is now York County, the southernmost county in the state of Maine.
great video! do they give public tourrs of the facilty?
Yes, this mill runs several times a day during the summer. You can check the King's Landing website for times.
2 electric pumps? How did the mill get the water back in the day?
It is for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE ...!!! ...You asshole...! Obviously, the original mill in those days was installed in the upstream ...!
@@potatosalad5355 damn why so agressive. Its a valid question.
@@sullivanpecharka3830
Exactly... no one needs to be so hard on someone else just for asking a question that they sincerely want to know and not just goofing around with it .
It is bizarre as the whole Western World. To pump water up the hill - to use water fall to turn the wheel. God speed!
Originally there was probably a water source higher than the mill to replenish the pond. Later, the pumps may have been steam powered, and still later powered by one or two stationary engines probably powered by gasoline.
Everything must be very synchronized. A slight error and snapped teeth and cogs would be the result. Amazing to see it working.
went to France, I visited the Vosges country. I saw the same sawmills. Energy was water, and many of these sawmills are still spinning. In French, they are called: Scierie à Haut Fer
Wow,I think I have a jigsaw puzzle of this mill. It’s amazing and very ingenious how it all works. Beautiful 🤗
I'm surprised how much torque that water wheel delivers, seeing how it goes from a big -> small gear ratio and then that directly drives the saw mechanism. And it's all wood-on-wood too.
I can see why water wheels were used for a long time for textile mills, besides the constant speed with varying load thing.
The best part is free power.
How was the first mill built if you need lumber to build it with and you need a mill to cut lumber?
Pit saws using 2 men were used previously to make lumber: ua-cam.com/video/vJeaOO_I5R8/v-deo.html
wow. thank you.
Must have seemed like a miracle in this wild land 400 yrs ago when they opened the gates and it turned the wheel.
I don't think it would really been seen as a miracle, seeing as how waterwheels have been around for a couple thousand years.
@@Lestat3721
Hey doofus, these waterwheel-powered sawmills haven't been around for a couple thousand years and so it's obvious to anyone with common sense to see where T Wal was coming from
@@get-the-lead-out.4593 That particular one, no, but by the time this particular one was made, they were already in use for a couple thousand years. It'd be like someone calling the new Ford car a miracle, because it is the new model.
@@Lestat3721
Huh? What? lol well I'm not trying to be mean but I an all seriousness you got your head shoved a little much up your butt....you're now saying no not that particular water-powered saw mill, when it's that particular saw mill being the one that is the whole focus of T Wal's comment and the particular one being the point here as well
...and as for your astray analogy of the Ford car that youre using to back up your logic, there are in FACT times that car manufactures including Ford will bring out a new model that has totally amazing technology, features, designs, etc etc and yes called or looked at as a miracle by MILLIONS of advertisements, magazine articles, news headlines, and then by millions of people and one reason being that although the car itself is no longer seen by 99% of people as a miracle, the technology, features, designs, etc etc that have been developed for them are often seen as a miracle.
Another important thing to keep in mind is that T Wal's comment is based on the people's perspective back 400 years ago who many of them would see this as a miracle, and so you have to imagine back then how they didn't have all these ways to see things all around the world to see/know about all the other waterwheel saw mills that may have been built with the same things. They had horse and buggy style transportation and so wasn't like they took vacations to go see a bunch of them whereby being desensitized to there miracle-like attributes , and thus when this saw mill was built, it was something large, amazing, fascinating, new or at least newer, and yes even a miracle or at least in a sense a miracle especially when the people knew how much their town's saw mill would provide the much needed lumber for them right where they could have easy access to it and could build their town's other needs from the revenue it created...and also so no more traveling far to other towns to get lumber or having the labor-intensive task of making their own with basic tools in comparison to having a saw mill, etc etc
They couldn't have opened it 400 years ago because they didn't have electric water pumps like this mill uses.
Makes me miss my home state so much! Love it in Maine
I like the indexing device...was that on the 1623, or a later improvement?
Have seen this indexing ratchet on other mills including one in the Maine State Museum but unsure when it was first developed.
WOW!!!! Simple and crude but amazing effective. Especially for 1600s technology
Is this mill OSHA Approved? 🙂
Did you ever finish cutting that one board?
I don't think the feed was set very fast for the sample board
7 months later...... NO...!
its slow but allows the workers to have constant coffee breaks
My question exactly!
They just grew a new tree the size of board they needed.
On a more serious side note, definitely very cool and looking at the swarf it seems evident that the feed rate is set really low.
What a cool old industrial age they built back then. Light years ahead of the old 2 man pitsaw.
That is real neat! Thanks for posting your excellent video!
I'm convinced that falling water is a solution to the energy issue.. . capture the power...!
worked on the cross roads 43 years ago to kings landing was there when they first started the saw up
now that real history its not the speed you go its the direction your headed in thank you
would the production be faster if they were to use saw blades?
Yes, this saw only cuts on the downstroke. Rotary saw blades followed that cut continuously..
I’d love to see one driving a circular table saw like Hanson’s Mill on Little House on the Prarie. Seems like it cut wood fairly fast.
How long does the blade stay sharp ?
I was told as a child that Elm was the best wood for gears. But that was before the Dutch Elm disease. Oh, and, that was told to me in 1969.
And any wood is good for the o. Lady
TilDeath1776 US Surely not soft wood, wouldn't only hard wood be of use in this application.
hickory is still the best handle wood though
Where is this at. I'd love to see it
Kings Landing is located in Prince William, New Brunswick: kingslanding.nb.ca
Something tells me these mills cut more than 1 twelve foot board per day.
Wonderful post. A pleasure to watch.
Thank you sir. It is educational.
Love the view☺️
Very similar in type and age to the wind sawmills in The Netherlands. Fascinating.
What’s the point in water power with an electric pump. Either just use water or just use an electric saw
fantastic old mill..... he said all wood on wood is the steel to steel I see a upgrade ?
There's remains of old cornmill in North Yorkshire, UK, that has a horizontal mainwheel driven by a pinion from the disappeared waterwheel.
The teeth of the mainwheel are made of wood but apple was the preferred wood.
New brunswick canada? i was thinking Westeros
Let me know in detail
48 buckets
Each contain 5 gallion of water?
How many Kg to get 13 hourse power(HP)?
5 gallons of water is 19 Kg in each bucket.
Huge waterwheel, nice to see it working and well.
How many horsepower this system have?
This water-powered sawmill develops 13 horsepower.
its driving me nuts that the blade does not engage more than 3/4 its length.
yeah but it would use more if the log was bigger !
Does your 17th century automated saw engage its whole length
Nice video man! Thank you!
Is this kings landing, NB?
Yes. This is an outstanding living history museum.
herbcrosby that’s crazy! I’m just in Saint John, didn’t realize they had something like this. I’ll have to go check it out.
Ironic they have to replenish the dam with two electric motors.
But I enjoyed the doc.
1.20 into the video. I'm really interested in the uneven wear on the teeth; 240 total teeth on the primary ,20 on the secondary. I've been to loads of water and windmills in the UK and all the ones i have seen have even wear due to the primary and secondary teeth count being non devisible. i.e. 241 teeth primary ,19 teeth secondary . This way all the teeth mesh with all the others as the teeth precess rather than the same clusters meshing together . I was told this non division of teeth was well known by millwrights and car gearbox gears are also non devisible apparently ? for the same reason.
Thank you for the good observation. Claude who runs this mill sent back the following reply:
Why the trundle is using a lot is the gauge wheel is moving too much and using the trundle is getting used more.The teeth are not hitting the same spot each time so the 20 trundle is using more.The mill is getting too old. From claude I hope that answer that question you had.
@@herbcrosby Many thanks for the reply . I went to a backshot mill in Cambridgeshire (UK) last year and the volunteer let me count the teeth (bit obsessive i know) and the teeth count on the primary and secondary gear wheels were both prime numbers (one was 19) . I had a chat with him about what i'd read on non-divisible gear ratios for even wear patterns . He had not heard that and thought it was perhaps just by chance the way the gear teeth had been divided up. Marking out a gear wheel for 19 teeth (or any prime number) is very tricky to do and probably deliberate . Much easier to pick numbers that divide into 360
@@simonharper4199 Thanks for the thoughtful observations on gear tooth design for wooden gears. Suspect this is less of a concern now with precision machined steel gears. Claude sent an additional email stating the King's Landing sawmill is now 45 yers old, well past it's expected life:
A sawmill like this set up in the 1800 hundred was suppose to last about 20 to 25 years and ours been running been 45 years so the machinery is getting to old that why its wearing to much everywere.
I like that it uses a electric motor to pump water in to the pond to power the mill
13 hp. i wonder how much torque water wheel produces. cool
what a beautiful place i could hang out there for ever !!!
This blade just goes vertically, Wickes was the first to have a blade that slanted each stroke to maintain cut on each tooth.
Very interesting! Thank you.
I saw in France, Vosges region, sawmills similar to this one. They are over 100 years old
''powered by water'' -we use 2 electric pumps to pump the water up to the wheel
Where is this at I would like to visit it
King's Landing is in New Brunswick, Canada. Here is a link to their website: kingslanding.nb.ca/
We use hard white maple for gears on our mill in Indiana, USA.
Where’s this mill at? I’d like to visit.
That is beautiful!
A very interesting video. Thank you
Cette scierie est tout à fait similaire aux scieries que l'on trouvait dans les Vosges en France et en Ardenne Belge
So it’s electric
awesome.......... I love it........
Too bad many of these mills are crumbling........demolition by neglect..........neglect the past neglect the future.......
The narration sounds like something out of Sesame Street.
I wonder if they have to fumigate now and again?
Where is Kings Landing?
King's Landing is in New Brunswick, Canada:
kingslanding.nb.ca/
They should knock this down completely and put a real saw mill ! Or atleast a home depot
Looks like strawberry in rdr2
EDIT: 4years later, I literally don't remember posting this comment, just randomly searched water powered sawmill...
Of course Maine was the first
to have a water weal mill for wood.
It was not Maine or even the United States at that time it was Acadia.
What is meaning of pumping water up by electric power to run water wheel? Isn't that some kind of Disneyland?
Kings Landing museum was built when they dammed the Saint John river for the Mactaquac power project.The land upstream was bought from the people and demolished.Some of it was saved for Kings Landing.They keep the old buildings as close to the pioneers as possible.A great place to visit for a day(look it up online).Kids and adults will love it.I live in Moncton,so am not that far from it.By the way,I believe these were called 'jack-knife mills by some of the older locals.
very Cool, thanks!
wait what powers those pumps
i want one you need to have a collage come in an do blue print's on this mill
I'm guessing from the rate of lumbar production the mill enjoys but, uh...the mill didn't cut any of the wood used in it's construction did it? It looks like it's cuts one pre-fabricated/pre-milled timber at a rate of 1 inch per 6 months. I think it should be retired and made in to a cheese factory.
The ancient man was very green,
No emissions
you had to make the mill to make the timber to build the mill.bit like the chicken and the egg.
By the time the wood is the right size you can retire.
That guy talk like Barry Kripke from big bang theory
What an amazing piece of technology
I want one of these for Christmas
In the UK, I have heard it said thay use Applewood for the TEETH on the cogs, as its more durable, they say oak is too hard and abrasive, give it a try.
So what are we talking here, a half inch kerf? A bushel of sawdust per foot!
Good morning from St John Parish, Louisiana 4 Sep 20.