Can I get 8 GIGABIT speeds on WiFi 7?! 😈

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  • Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
  • WiFi 7 is here and it's insanely fast. Like... maybe too fast. Can it saturate my 8Gbit fiber connection?
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    There are a number of WiFi 7 options available for those interested in upgrading:
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    Lots of people are still running 802.11ac WiFi 5 setups (until just a few months ago, I was too!), but WiFi 6 is already old news and WiFi 6E has started to come come to a bunch of devices in the past year like the iPhone 15 Pro and M3 Macs-but WiFi 7 is already here and its ready to take names, right? Ehhh. The video delves into the potential of WiFi 7, testing its promises of multi-gigabit speeds and examining the OnePlus 11 as one of the few devices currently supporting WiFi 7. Additionally, we address the issue of achieving ultra-fast internet speeds in the real world and the problems with bandwidth, peering, and the internet as a whole that may make this upgrade less important than you think.
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    0:00 I got 8Gbit fiber-how could I resist WiFi 7?
    0:45 eero does some shady sh*t
    2:44 How I'm wired up 8Gbit
    3:21 Trying an 8 gig speed test!
    4:07 The problem with SpeedTest.net
    5:33 HUGE NOTE: Intranet != Internet
    5:53 What devices even support WiFi 7?
    6:56 Can we actually get 4.3Gbps over WiFi?
    7:34 WiFi marketing is a liar, sometimes...
    8:53 Everybody should wait to upgrade to WiFi 7
    9:21 The Internet actually kinda sucks
    10:03 Proof that the internet actually kinda sucks
    11:11 WiFi 6E is a lot cheaper and good enough for 90% of the world
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  • @Melchirobin
    @Melchirobin 4 місяці тому +355

    I don’t think most people will realize how important it is to have a Wifi 7 review thats is not sponsored by any Wi-Fi router company. Thank you for doing it.

  • @keco185
    @keco185 4 місяці тому +561

    I don’t think people really care about those speeds anyway. I think nearly everyone would be happy with a *reliable* gigabit connection. Reliability is the big thing

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому +216

      Xfinity’s like “Reliability? Never heard of it.”

    • @sarhan_
      @sarhan_ 4 місяці тому +19

      @@snazzywhy are you always so negative on twitter lol

    • @kamilb8232
      @kamilb8232 4 місяці тому +21

      For now. I expect Call of Duty to single handedly fill up 3TB of space 10-15 years from now.

    • @sebastian05000
      @sebastian05000 4 місяці тому

      @@kamilb8232 lol

    • @Jst4vdeos
      @Jst4vdeos 4 місяці тому +27

      Reliable, low-ping, gigabit is all I need

  • @Melchirobin
    @Melchirobin 4 місяці тому +196

    It is insane that a $1700 product still nickel and dimes you.

    • @caryrabbit
      @caryrabbit 4 місяці тому +8

      Yeah, and it’s common regretfully. They aren’t the only ones paywalling features in expensive network hardware.

    • @98ws6m6cvert
      @98ws6m6cvert 4 місяці тому

      @@caryrabbitthat’s why Ubiquiti beats this stuff out by a long shot lol. No subscription for anything.

    • @marksapollo
      @marksapollo 2 місяці тому

      Eero are the worst products you can buy, pure garbage, and then they charge you a subscription for even seeing WiFi stats! TP Link or ASUs are far better, ASUs has no subscription, TP Link only have it for advanced parental controls which most don’t need, the included ones work fine. Both makes perform FAR better than Eero do.

  • @kylemag1
    @kylemag1 4 місяці тому +155

    I work as an engineer at a local ISP (also in Utah!) and I wish I could send this video to every customer that complain about slow speeds.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому +52

      Haha I won’t tell if you don’t! 😜

    • @johnmoore1495
      @johnmoore1495 4 місяці тому +5

      Knowing how most American ISPs are in regards to speed, wouldn’t be surprised if your service was just slow as well though lol.

    • @dennisp8520
      @dennisp8520 4 місяці тому +1

      @@johnmoore1495most American ISPs are not slow and over provision what they sell by 20%. Most people that complain about their ISPs are people that are complaining about Wi-Fi performance which is not a ISPs problem

    • @johnmoore1495
      @johnmoore1495 4 місяці тому

      @@dennisp8520 to an extent I agree about the complaining part. People don’t realize both your computer or your router could be the problem. But on the other hand most cities still have crappy speeds. My friend was still stuck with a 25Mbit connection from AT&T in a city of over 110,000 people and an overall metro area over 350,000. It wasn’t until literally last week that they installed fiber because TDS fiber is rolling out so AT&T knew they’d lose 90% of their customers if they continued to do nothing.

    • @johnmoore1495
      @johnmoore1495 4 місяці тому +2

      @@dennisp8520 to an extent I agree about the complaining part. People don’t realize both your computer or your router could be the problem. But on the other hand most cities still have crappy speeds. My friend was still stuck with a 25Mbit connection in a city of over 110,000 people and an overall metro area over 350,000. It wasn’t until literally last week that they installed fiber because a new company is rolling fiber.

  • @notenoughmonkeys
    @notenoughmonkeys 4 місяці тому +79

    Finally Wi-Fi speeds I can properly stream movies on. I'll start of course with the works of Christopher NoLAN.

  • @heeerrresjonny
    @heeerrresjonny 4 місяці тому +5

    This is the most accurate and accessible "tech" video I have seen in SO long. I always go in expecting to find at least a few minor inaccuracies or oversights, but seriously this video is perfect lol. You covered every aspect of this topic that matters, made it as easy to understand as you can given the subject, and didn't cut corners or skip things in the process. Good job! I recently upgraded to 2.5Gbps for my WAN connection, went through almost the same steps (I haven't tried wifi 7 yet though), and encountered the exact same limitations (including needing to use the speedtest CLI haha). I really hope the Tier 1 and Tier 2 networks make upgrades and adjust peering arrangements soon to enable more consistent multi-gig throughput.

  • @B3yondBlu
    @B3yondBlu 4 місяці тому +67

    I notice WiFiman said you were on a 160MHz channel width. The Eero and that OnePlus both support the 320Mhz channel width on the 6GHz band, which is new with WiFi 7. You probably have to change that setting in the Eero. That should get you closer to the 8Gbps mark.

    • @dumbuz
      @dumbuz 4 місяці тому

      you are a very advanced level nerd to see and realise that

    • @NatesRandomVideo
      @NatesRandomVideo 4 місяці тому

      Glad you noticed and posted this so I didn’t bother watching the rest of the video.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому +14

      Reattempted and there was zero speed difference. Possible firmware issue? Idk. Cheers.

    • @heeerrresjonny
      @heeerrresjonny 4 місяці тому +1

      Initially I thought this wouldn't matter, but it looks like the OnePlus 11 is listed as having 2x2 MIMO which should mean it can only do 2 spatial streams. Unless I made a mistake, I think 2 streams @ 320Mhz width = 5.8Gbps max, but @ 160Mhz it'd be half that or around 2.4Gbps. I had assumed (incorrectly lol) that WiFi 7 clients would bump up the number of streams used since technically it can go up to 16.

    • @ericoak6080
      @ericoak6080 4 місяці тому +1

      U shld try it on the galaxy s24 ultra at 320 mghz probably can handle it better

  • @JarrydHall
    @JarrydHall 4 місяці тому +32

    Listening to this, I was very confused to hear that Wi-Fi seven hadn’t been ratified when I thought it had been. Upon re-watching the video I saw the editors note in text. It would be hugely beneficial to have a voice over, even if a little bit ratty for updates like this, that’s hugely important. Otherwise I loved the video!

    • @agathalorenzo4224
      @agathalorenzo4224 4 місяці тому +1

      It's already finalized
      But it takes time for all the device got certified

  • @jonathanwking
    @jonathanwking 4 місяці тому +11

    Rural Maine checking in: when we bought the new place over the summer, it was advertised to get high speed internet. By the current FCC definition.
    And, so it does!
    25 mb/s down and 3 mb/s up. Yes, that’s MEGABITS. Later this year, we finally do get fiber, and 2Gb/s symmetric will be on offer. Honestly can’t wait. Have fun everybody else with non-FCC defined high speed internet

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому +5

      Woof that’s rough. Here’s hoping that fiber comes fast!

    • @AlucardNoir
      @AlucardNoir Місяць тому

      That's what you get when you live in a rural area. That's one of the main reasons most EU residents have way better speeds. Most of us live in cities (polluted as they are) and get to enjoy better internet (and no fresh air in spite of all the regulations Americans laugh at). Move to Europe and you'll get fantastic internet at incredible prices and you won't even have to pay the equivalent of a brand new car or small 1 bedroom apartment to have it installed. Air quality might not be the same, and you might need to start buying food from the local hypermarket as opposed to growing some of it yourself. But you know, great internet.

  • @echinas0908
    @echinas0908 4 місяці тому +48

    I believe an interesting use case is Wireless backhaul for mesh networks. Sometimes people can't (not really) or don't want to put cables between units, so its a good usecase for WiFi 7.

    • @jacobandrewclark
      @jacobandrewclark 4 місяці тому +1

      That’s what my newer Deco mesh kit does, albeit with 6E. Allows my speeds to be much better in the other areas of my home without wires, which isn’t an easy addition to my network.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 4 місяці тому

      @@jacobandrewclark That's what I'm about to do, as I don't want to crawl under my house to run a Wired backhaul since the Deco WiFi 7 units are still crazy expensive, and on T-MO 5G Internet my high pull was just over 800 Mbps with my averages between 450 Mbps - just over 700 Mbps.

    • @jacobandrewclark
      @jacobandrewclark 4 місяці тому +1

      ⁠@@CommodoreFan64should work great for that. I’ve got 500 as my cap and can still get low 400s on my second node in the next room.

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 4 місяці тому +1

      *it's (contraction of "it is" or "it has")
      its = possessive
      All contractions have apostrophes. Possessive pronouns never do.
      Another option is MoCA, which gives you an Ethernet like experience using the coax wiring you may already have in your home. The current version, MoCA 2.5, can do up to 1 Gbps in full duplex or 2.5 Gbps in half duplex, with ~3ms of latency. Snazzy did a video about this.
      The next version, MoCA 3.0, is supposed to be capable of up to 5 Gbps in full duplex or 10 Gbps in half duplex, but only if you give it the full RF spectrum of the coax cable (no DOCSIS Internet or cable TV). My hope (and I could be wrong) is that it will be able to work at 2.5 Gbps full duplex when used alongside DOCSIS. To my knowledge, MoCA 3.0 currently only "exists" as a finalized specification from 2018; there's no silicon available for OEMs to build products with.

    • @echinas0908
      @echinas0908 4 місяці тому +1

      @@alvallac2171 Sorry for not using apostrophes on a non-english phone keyboard and expecting autocorrect to do the work. It seems you got very offended by that simple omission.

  • @dunar1005
    @dunar1005 4 місяці тому +17

    People in Switzerland be like “ what is he talking about, I have perfectly good Internet from my 10 giga bit fiber for $30 a month”

    • @gmanyyavailable
      @gmanyyavailable 4 місяці тому +8

      And people in Germany saying "my 150 year old telephone cable gives me perfectly good 30 Mbit/s for 50€/mo"

    • @carpyet9507
      @carpyet9507 4 місяці тому

      Is it really that cheap in Switzerland?

    • @dalisoft
      @dalisoft 3 місяці тому

      Shit. Now what i want is try to get job from Switzerland and live there.
      Even for $150/month has plans 10gbps internet + channels + netflix. Amazing country. Thank you author of comment mentioned Switzerland

  • @barkingsheltie
    @barkingsheltie 4 місяці тому +3

    The laugh, the laugh! @ 5:14 is priceless! I love your videos, and often as well the sponsors products - Buying the Nexode Pro today. Thanks Snazzy, your videos are not only informative, but fun to watch. Stay Snazzy!

  • @youdontneedmyrealname
    @youdontneedmyrealname 4 місяці тому +3

    The multi-band concurrent connection is the really game changer for wifi 7. Solid connection with no interruptions

  • @NitikSharma
    @NitikSharma 4 місяці тому +7

    you deserve so many more subscribers, this content is unmatched

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому +2

      Thank you!!

  • @damian_11_
    @damian_11_ 4 місяці тому

    Very informative video. The production quality is amazing too!

  • @bvp663
    @bvp663 4 місяці тому +1

    Your WiFi/home networking/smart home videos are my favorite.

  • @LordSaliss
    @LordSaliss 4 місяці тому +1

    I heard about browsers being the limiting factor as you get closer to about 5gbit speeds a few years ago. Forgot about it cause it had no bearing on me at the time, but seeing this vid was a good reminder about something we will all start having to take into account as we move into faster ISP plans.

  • @DK-eo9vj
    @DK-eo9vj 4 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for the great content!

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому +2

      Thanks for watching!

  • @GuillaumeLEFAND
    @GuillaumeLEFAND 4 місяці тому +24

    Just a quick comment : Wi-Fi 7 provides better bandwidth, thanks to MLO (Multi Link Operation) i.e. aggregation of the 2.4+5+6GHz band. Unfortunately current phones can only support MLO on 2 bands (2.4+5 or 5+6). Secondly, the number of stream matters: eero got 2x2@2.4GHz + 4x4@5GHz + 4x4@6GHz. Your phone is probably 2x2 on each stream. So the best Wi-Fi speed will be between 2 eero at this stage, until 4x4x4 PC cards come into the market.
    Regarding the standard, major features are standard and "reliable " : MLO, 320MHz bandwidth, 1024 QAM and MRU.

    • @98ws6m6cvert
      @98ws6m6cvert 4 місяці тому

      A lot of devices are 2x2 i have not seen any use 4x4. Accurate assessment of the situation. I don’t know if the euro has MLO enabled. I read they disabled it until more devices support it.

    • @wildyato3737
      @wildyato3737 Місяць тому

      Yes it does make sense..
      it the video POV ..he did connected to WiFi7 fkr sure..but using 6E's 6GHz connection as frequency!

  • @AlexMcDermott
    @AlexMcDermott 4 місяці тому

    Your content is just top notch

  • @dil6969
    @dil6969 4 місяці тому +8

    I switched to 6E recently and while my internet is nowhere near maxing it out, the biggest upgrade for me was its rock solid stability. On standard 5ghz I would experience momentary interruptions several times a day. After moving to a 6E capable PCI-E Wi-Fi card, I haven’t had a single hiccup since I started using it almost a year ago. If Ethernet isn’t an option, 6E is a no-brainer.

    • @dumbuz
      @dumbuz 4 місяці тому

      Do you live in an apartment, or somewhere where there are many WiFi networks? Higher frequencies should be less reliable, as they have less range and wall penetration. Less interference on the 6 GHz band is likely what's fixed your issue.

    • @blender_wiki
      @blender_wiki 4 місяці тому

      Happy that you are satisfied with a wifi6e but
      Ethernet is always an option, actually is the main option for a desktop PC. With a wifi connection you always get a second class connection no matter what.

    • @aribloch
      @aribloch 4 місяці тому

      Not always an option. Not everyone can wire up their home easily​@@blender_wiki

  • @rohithramesh9204
    @rohithramesh9204 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for the great content !
    Seeing PopOS, i always was curious if an easy to use distro could be a chromebook competitor.

  • @olokelo
    @olokelo 4 місяці тому

    Very informative video, thanks :)

  • @rsimch
    @rsimch 4 місяці тому

    Very well done, useful 😊

  • @ShadowIBlade
    @ShadowIBlade 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video!

  • @morells09
    @morells09 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for validating the purchase of my WiFi 6E mesh network for my new house lol
    I made the decision to upgrade from WiFi 6 when I moved mainly because my parents were still on WiFi 5 and their phones are new enough now to take advantage of WiFi 6 so they got a nice free upgrade 😅

  • @Zachrdoodle
    @Zachrdoodle 4 місяці тому +21

    God I love snazzy lab videos
    They’re consistently the easiest to stay engaged with, it feels like they read my mind and talk about exactly what I want to learn

  • @georgeryan869
    @georgeryan869 4 місяці тому +2

    6:22 Wi-Fi > Three dots on the top right > More settings > Wi-Fi Status display > Wi-Fi version label. Good video though, Quinn!

  • @yotu9670
    @yotu9670 4 місяці тому

    Good review. And very through recherche

  • @tubefaze
    @tubefaze 4 місяці тому

    Pop OS view bonus. Nice Wifi 7 review also.

  • @j340_official
    @j340_official 4 місяці тому +10

    WiFi 7 supports up to 320 MHz per channel. Your phone said it was connected at 160 MHz. Enable a 320 MHz channel and report back.

    • @98ws6m6cvert
      @98ws6m6cvert 4 місяці тому

      It wont make a difference i have a 24 ultra and a ubiquiti WiFi 7 ap. I can get 2-gigs tops. Ultimately. The internet is slower than you so it’s pointless to upgrade at the moment lol.

    • @BobsUp83
      @BobsUp83 4 місяці тому

      @@98ws6m6cvert he has 8gig internet, so that's not the problem. The issue is in the firmware, which is very premature for wifi7. You should definitely see a difference, but very likely the AP or the client can only do 1 spatial stream when moving to 320Mhz, while it can do 2 on 160Mhz

    • @j340_official
      @j340_official 4 місяці тому

      @@98ws6m6cvert does the s24 ultra support 320 MHz channels or 160 MHz ?

    • @wildyato3737
      @wildyato3737 Місяць тому

      The thing is he is using Wifi 7 for sure..but in WiFi 6Ghz bamd only at a time..not using Tri-band upon MLO

    • @Fear.of.the.Dark.
      @Fear.of.the.Dark. Місяць тому

      Up to is the big if here. WiFi 6 also supports up to 160mhz but majority devices on the market does 80mhz.

  • @VectorGaming4080
    @VectorGaming4080 Місяць тому

    I picked up a WiFi 6E router today because of all the points you made and also what I care about is the 6 GHz band for getting the best connection with wireless PCVR on my Meta Quest 3. Oh, and also WiFi 6E routers are generally cheaper right now.

  • @danieldevine
    @danieldevine 4 місяці тому +5

    Wifi 7 is interesting to me mostly for internal networking. If we're hitting 2.5-5Gbit speeds on future laptops and phones for local backups to NAS etc - no point (mostly) in buying any sort of thunderbolt or usb to ethernet adapters and docking those devices. I use WiFi 5 kit atm and get about 300+ Mbit in most rooms in a 4 bed house with a few APs. meshed not hardwired. It's fine for almost all content currently. When I do upgrade to wifi 7, it'll be probably for the next 5-10 years unless there is some huge advancement that requires it
    2.5Gbit internet will be in my area soon with existing cable (using FTTP and then converting to coax using DOCSIS 3.1/4) , 10Gbit with XGS-PON is being deployed by alt-nets in my area too. Offering 1Gbit now but supporting 10Gbit symmetrical later

    • @TheShortStory
      @TheShortStory 4 місяці тому +1

      The bottleneck emerging now is large-scale local storage transfer rates. HDDs are still most cost effective and a gigabit connection can pretty much saturate a NAS when overhead is factored in.

    • @laden6675
      @laden6675 4 місяці тому

      @@TheShortStory HDD is cost effective if... you don't factor in speed, lol. SSD have gotten so cheap I don't see the point in saving maybe a few dollars per TB to get 100x worse performance. I very much doubt most NAS with hardware modern enough to support this network speed use anything but SSDs.

  • @APOLLOSTEES
    @APOLLOSTEES 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video Quinn. I half expected an "I'm Quitting UA-cam" video from you 😂

  • @hbjigcc
    @hbjigcc 4 місяці тому

    Talking about nominal vs effective wifi speed, Eero Max 7 features a 4x4 antenna setup and the speed refers to this configuration.
    On the other hand, smartphones have a 2x2 antenna configuration.
    To properly test the wifi speed you should setup another device (maybe a router in bridge mode) with the same antenna configuration.

  • @504cool
    @504cool 4 місяці тому +5

    Question: Do you know how fast of an upload speed UA-cam can take advantage of? For example, does UA-cam utilize uploads at 2.5GBs or does it cap out at a certain point and not matter how fast your connection is?

    • @johnmoore1495
      @johnmoore1495 4 місяці тому

      Well based on how a theoretical 30 second upload took 10x the time. I’d say the cap is 250Mbps at most. I doubt they have a true cap. They probably just have a limited amount of processing capabilities since there’s so many videos being uploaded.

  • @accordxtc319
    @accordxtc319 4 місяці тому

    I recently upgraded from the Eero pro 6e units. My service is only 2gb but upgraded to the Eero Max 7 to get faster wired speeds on my network.
    I will say it's not always about speed but coverage as the Eero Max 7 offers that over the previous model.

  • @AnonymousFreakYT
    @AnonymousFreakYT Місяць тому

    I upgraded to WiFi 7 last year when my old router decided that it needed rebooting daily. I went with TP-Link's "Deco" series. A three pack like yours which similarly have two adjustable 10Gbit ports plus two 2.5Gbit ports each. My house has Ethernet to the two places I wanted to put the boosters, so I have those on the 10Gbit ports, with one 2.5Gbit port running to my cable modem, and the last 2.5Gbit port running to a 2.5 Gigabit switch that runs all my "home theater area devices" plus one more in-house Ethernet port in another room that doesn't need full 10Gbit (since that's where all the Ethernet ports congregate, and where the cable outlet is.)
    In my home office one of the repeaters sits, plus a 10Gbit switch, connected to four computers via 10Gbit. (Plus more

  • @Epicgamer_Mac
    @Epicgamer_Mac 4 місяці тому +3

    “John Wilkes Bluetooth”
    I was laughing my arse off 😂

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому +1

      😜

    • @acubley
      @acubley 4 місяці тому

      @@snazzy Is he gonna shoot Abraham Lancoln?

  • @johnzach2057
    @johnzach2057 4 місяці тому

    Did you tinker with the settings? Did you use 320mhz channel and aggregate with 5Ghz?

  • @LulzChicken
    @LulzChicken 4 місяці тому

    Great video have a sub

  • @denisruskin348
    @denisruskin348 4 місяці тому +13

    I couldn't believe my eyes when I finally moved to Starlink, getting 250-300MB after years of 20MB in a rural area and this guy in comparison is living in 2050.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому +10

      How have you been liking Starlink? I’ve heard really great things and want to get it for my grandparents who have been getting crazy slow 10Mbps rural speeds from an ISP that charges them a fortune.

    • @denisruskin348
      @denisruskin348 4 місяці тому

      @@snazzy Oh I've been very happy so far. Speeds are consistent, maybe into the 150s around mid day on heavy load but other than that it works well.
      Router is WiFi 6 and also no complains there.
      On 10MB the jump will be massive.
      The only requirement is a hefty unobstructed view of the sky, but there are several mounting options.

    • @Sithhy
      @Sithhy 4 місяці тому +2

      Not Starlink for me but I cannot wait for my upgrade in april in which I will be going from 20Mb/s (supposed, actually 13) to 600Mb/s fibre after having to deal with the monopolistic ISP in my town for 20 years, so excited

    • @ziggybadans
      @ziggybadans 21 день тому

      It's insane as someone in Australia hearing that there's somewhere on Earth you can just get 8gbps speeds like that's a normal thing, when I'm over here paying a premium for 100/40mbps (which is really more like 50/15 lmao)

  • @loganrussell48
    @loganrussell48 4 місяці тому +1

    Wasn't WiFi 7 finalized a week and a half ago? Also, yeah, the U6 Enterprise from Ubiquiti is cheaper than Eero and has the same number of "Spatial Streams", but doesn't have the 10Gb wired connectivity, *only* 2.5Gb. The U7 Pro is *even cheaper* than the U6E, notably dropping the spatial streams to 6 rather than 10.

  • @98ws6m6cvert
    @98ws6m6cvert 4 місяці тому

    Awesome review and it’s insane that thing cost 1700. Then they have the audacity to charge a subscription. That’s one of the reason i went over to ubiquiti. All i needed to upgrade to WiFi 7 was a capable switch and 180 AP which was still less than this setup. Ubiquiti plans to update their APs end of February for MLO so I’ll see if theirs any improvements there, but so far I’m getting most of my hardwired speeds over WiFi. S24 ultra on WiFi 7 is blazing fast, but like you mentioned the rest of the internet is slower lol.

  • @rogerrix4127
    @rogerrix4127 4 місяці тому

    I forgot to mention I have 1 gig down and 40 up with the ISP at the moment. Home pods speed wouldn't really matter but the Lorex cameras might be more responsive.

  • @mikeg6069
    @mikeg6069 2 місяці тому

    What I'd like to know is the difference in wireless backhaul connection speeds between 6E and 7 nodes. I live in a large house where wired backhaul is not possible. Therefore, I'm always trying to find out what performance to expect from wireless backhaul connections in speed AND in distance apart. Is 7 better than 6E in this regard or are they the same?

  • @baitboy3191
    @baitboy3191 4 місяці тому

    Nothing makes my day more than a Snazzy Labs video

  • @zoxc2152
    @zoxc2152 4 місяці тому +1

    It would be nice to have test for latency under load, between the nodes and a node and the phone, using a tool like Crusader. Both Wi-Fi 6 and 7 claim to have theoretical latency improvements, but implementations tend to be garbage.

  • @SquareOFortune
    @SquareOFortune 4 місяці тому +1

    The old-school crass terminology chosen made it hard to get through the intro. Please consider “Gateway + Satellite,” or “Primary + Secondary/Tertiary,” or “Router + Bridged APs,” or any number of contemporary descriptors. Thanks for the cool look at this awesome product though!

  • @ctrlcf
    @ctrlcf 4 місяці тому

    I’m still considering adding a WiFi 7 AP into my Ubiquiti setup. Fairly cheap if (like me) you’re already in that ecosystem.

  • @djsnowpdx
    @djsnowpdx 4 місяці тому

    Off-topic, but how do you force game mode on Mac for a non-game? I have this djay software, and I want to use my AirPods as monitors, so I need access to the lowest latency wireless audio.
    O

  • @maximusg88
    @maximusg88 4 місяці тому

    Please keep making Networking videos!!! 👏👏👏

  • @omarashraf27
    @omarashraf27 4 місяці тому +2

    Great video
    I'm interested in what you use pop os for

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому +4

      I don’t really have a desktop Mac at home and I prefer Linux to Windows so just for general compute stuff.

    • @omarashraf27
      @omarashraf27 4 місяці тому

      that's a surprising fact to me actually@@snazzy

  • @AmericanPatriots87
    @AmericanPatriots87 4 місяці тому

    You should try a Firewalla out. I think you would like it.

  • @ok_schlatter
    @ok_schlatter 4 місяці тому +1

    We just got access to fiber internet where I live, and although we now have the option for gigabit speeds, 100 megabit is good enough for my family 95% of the time

  • @Petairelevrai
    @Petairelevrai 4 місяці тому

    interesting speedtest cli tool, which one is it ? My speedtest-cli through homebrew doesn't look like that and doesn't accept those parameters !

  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan64 4 місяці тому

    Yep I'm waiting for WiFi 7 for a few years, as WiFi 6E is going to be my next upgrade as I'm on T-Mo 5G and my highest speeds are just over 700 Mbps with only some very rare 800 Mbps pulls.

  • @LongestDayOfMyLife24
    @LongestDayOfMyLife24 4 місяці тому

    For OnePlus you can view your Wi-Fi version by going under the Wi-Fi status display and turning on the Wi-Fi version number.

  • @aelaan12
    @aelaan12 4 місяці тому

    I was lucky enough to test the TPLink Deco 6E last week. While I did not hold on to it, because my defect router was RMA'd, I did see awesome speeds in my internal network. I have a "mere" 1.5GBs connection because of looser rules in the Condo and ISPs not willing to dig a line to my demarq. First world problems.

  • @03chrisv
    @03chrisv 4 місяці тому

    My old Wi-Fi 5 router is still happy trucking along. I have fiber internet, and I get reliable 600 megabit download and upload speeds for my wireless devices. My new S24 Ultra is quite happy with those speed even though it supports Wi-Fi 7.

  • @dog_knight
    @dog_knight 4 місяці тому

    With the new WiFi 7 devices I’m more excited about the prevalence of multi-gig or 10gb Ethernet. I will be upgrading once the prices come down a bit and more options are available.
    Currently I’m fine with WiFi 6 and half my network being 10gbe. Especially given I only have a 1gb internet connection and likely won’t be able to get any faster than that for many years.

  • @AbdAbd-nc6uv
    @AbdAbd-nc6uv 4 місяці тому +1

    Is it even worth it? I mean does have to do something with the servers you are connecting to?

  • @branislavavramovic2601
    @branislavavramovic2601 4 місяці тому

    I didn't know you were using Pop_OS on one of your devices. Cool

  • @Carbonfiree
    @Carbonfiree 4 місяці тому +2

    2:10 I'm curious with the Ugreen segment, "zero to hero" on the 100W MacBook charger, but the MacBook is already on 82% and states "42 minutes remaining until full", how long does it actually take? Mean 100W is decent for a MacBook, and don't get me wrong, love Ugreen's products😂 unless it's some battery lifetime/long term health extender thing

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому +1

      The last 10% of a charge is always the slowest and when the display is on it charges even slower. ;)

    • @Carbonfiree
      @Carbonfiree 4 місяці тому

      @@snazzy
      Wow, thank you so much for the reply! ! Love your vids, keep up the awesome work🔥

  • @TristanBurgener
    @TristanBurgener 4 місяці тому

    I love google fiber. They’ve tried to get me to upgrade from 1 gig since I joined. I can hardly max out the speed I already get. With 30 devices online, 2 kids streaming, gaming. I’m glad I have the option to upgrade but don’t need to yet.
    It’s hard not to max out though with the 8 gig option 🥵

  • @vhol93
    @vhol93 4 місяці тому

    Awesome!!!

  • @quixomega
    @quixomega 4 місяці тому

    I bought a new Wi-Fi access point last year because my old 802.11N router finally died. I bought a Wi-Fi 5 one because it was less than half the price of the Wi-Fi 6 one. I figured if N was good enough, would I notice? The answer is, I noticed better latency but that's about it. I'll buy a new access point when this one dies, and I'll probably buy whatever is on the clearance shelf when that happens.

  • @emjay9733
    @emjay9733 4 місяці тому

    Solving a non-problem. 👍

  • @fedemtz6
    @fedemtz6 4 місяці тому

    I just replaced my Airport Extreme with two TP-Link Omada EAP610s, which are only wifi 6 and they are very nice. I can get about 600 mbps out of my supposedly gigabit internet that usually maxes out at around 650/700. I am definitely looking forward to wifi 7's Multi-Link Operation, but I will definitely not buy a wifi 7 device until the standard is finalized and it has been in use for a few years.

  • @stevenwallace582
    @stevenwallace582 4 місяці тому

    The only reason I got the TP-LINK BE9300 (WiFi 7 router) about a month ago is that it was just about the only router with a 2.5gb input and output. I have 1.2gb download speeds, which with Xfinity, their rental modem/router supports, or I had a standalone modem that could handle that speed, but it only had a 1 gig output. Meaning I had a modem that couldn't even output the max speed it could input, which seems bizarre. I now use the Xfinity modem in bridge mode and the BE9300 as my router so that I can get my full download speed (and strangely, like in this video I also get more than I pay more, maxing out around 1450 mb/s down).

  • @GeorgeLathem
    @GeorgeLathem 4 місяці тому

    Wait didn't wifi 7 finalized and come out around CES? The routers did come out before it was finalized. Unless I misunderstood what you said

  • @TMWriting
    @TMWriting 4 місяці тому

    I live in Australia and am absolutely thrilled I can get 100Mbps down. The thing I’m hoping for one day in the future would be an equal amount of upload capacity, as I have a plex server and 15Mbps up doesn’t cover the bitrate of any of my ripped Blu-Rays

  • @00SNIVY00
    @00SNIVY00 4 місяці тому

    If I could have an Eero router sans Amazon, that'd be great. Built in matter support is the one thing I wish my Linksys router had.
    Also wasn't WiFi 7 finalized as of like...yesterday? Thought I heard something about that just a little while ago.

  • @greggoodenough5607
    @greggoodenough5607 4 місяці тому

    What about connecting a nas to one of these, and accessing it wireless, AND accessing it by hard lining into the satellite

  • @punkdrummer813
    @punkdrummer813 4 місяці тому +1

    Do you know if your WiFi device and AP are using MLO? Otherwise, you’re just verifying a wider 6ghz channel width. The main benefit of WiFi 7 will be MLO for both speed and reliability.

  • @xxthefate
    @xxthefate 3 місяці тому

    what's your wrist rest? does it get hand oil marks?

  • @colab_stdio
    @colab_stdio 4 місяці тому

    Dude, whats that wifi monitor app? Superb something? I cant find it on the play store. Looks like something useful when im checking wifi congestion around this area. But i cant find the exact thing on the playstore. Whats the name again? Thanks 😉

  • @ericbauer4559
    @ericbauer4559 4 місяці тому

    I recently purchased TP links WiFi 7 router just because for the price, it actually had 2.5gbe WAN port and 2.5gbe LAN ports when compared to other 6E routers I’ve been looking to buy. I replaced my crappy Qnap 6E router that had 10gbe wan and lan ports just to get better parental controls. It also had very terrible reception so I turned off its radios and used my old ASUS WiFi 6 router for WiFi. Wish we had google fiber, Xfinitys asymmetrical broadband is getting old with 40mbps upload.

  • @agathalorenzo4224
    @agathalorenzo4224 4 місяці тому

    Mixing "slower" (older tech) device with fast Wifi-7 will drag down the speed.
    Because the WiFi is based on time slice (not on speed), which mean each device got the same time to access the router.
    The same is also true when mixing WiFi 5 to WiFi 6 router
    and mixing WiFi 4 to WiFi 5 router.

  • @VE2FET
    @VE2FET 4 місяці тому

    Can you post the spec of you 10gig nic card and your pc? Thanks, appreciated!

  • @swimmingturtle247
    @swimmingturtle247 4 місяці тому

    Wifi 7 is exciting for VR tech. A fast inter-home connection will do leaps and bounds for connections between headsets and computers so that we can eventually have lossless data streaming for apps like Airlink and Virtual desktop. No wonder most companies are taking the standalone route.

  • @Psav26
    @Psav26 4 місяці тому

    here in France we have an ISP which has an offer for 8 GB symmetrical, wifi 7 for 60 euros per month

  • @marco_evertus
    @marco_evertus 4 місяці тому

    So I have a 10Gbps internet connection here in Singapore. I use Ubiquity’s WiFi 7Pro APs now I know I can’t get over 2.5GbE speeds on it but I’ve never once had any issue with speeds even if my iPhone 15 Pro Max can only reach slightly over gigabit speeds that’s more than enough for anything I do on my phone, for any serious work I have my workstation connected to the aggregate switch with multi mode fiber.

  • @TBpepe
    @TBpepe 4 місяці тому

    Quinn i wanna say that i have seen sometimes with my 5G based network, the upload to youtube via official app is way slower than the youtube website from the same device

  • @wodn184fn8
    @wodn184fn8 4 місяці тому

    what model is that juniper router that can give you such a speed? please type the model.

  • @cucco346
    @cucco346 4 місяці тому

    I believe Wi-Fi 7 is certified at the time you published this video(although most likely not certified during the make of this video). But the single most important feature of Wi-Fi 7 I'm looking forward to if you can connet to 2.4/5/6 bands simountinously, it will provides much better reliable connection when I'm roaming in my house.

  • @AAmxs
    @AAmxs 4 місяці тому

    in my country we dont have lan passthrough in our walls (maybe because our house is made from bricks), but im jealous how people can use LAN directly from their router, we have to move pull a long cable of ethernet to our pc or just use wifi extender

  • @cjhan47
    @cjhan47 4 місяці тому

    I like low ping and not consuming all the bandwidth for my home. I have fiber and wifi7 will insure I can do what I want. I have the Eero Max7 and love it.

  • @MrHeHim
    @MrHeHim 4 місяці тому

    Long -> Short; a well setup 200MBps connection is more than enough for everyone, only drawback is large download speeds
    There where a few flaws in testing, like setting 320MHz channel width and when they "add up" it's adding up 2.4+5GHz+6GHz. Like the TP-Link AX3000 i have, 2400 on 5GHz and 570 on 2.4GHz. Then also WiFi 7 introduces Multi-link Operation, lets you aggregate two radios simultaneously for both faster speeds and more stable connection.
    With that said, it's not all finalized and i could have well been that the 320MHz channel width option wasn't there and MLO isn't working and not supported on smaller devices like phones, which prioritize efficiency

  • @Bradleybrookwood
    @Bradleybrookwood 4 місяці тому

    I would love to try the Wi-Fi seven and Wi-Fi eight. Problem is I don't know if my router supports it because my router is one of those routers that was built into the wall when I moved into my apartment. It's a modem and router all built-in one and it's actually built into the wall and wired into the wall When they constructed these apartments. The building is two years old if anybody is wondering about specifics.

  • @EVPaddy
    @EVPaddy 4 місяці тому +1

    Just bought this unifi wifi 7 ap for under 200 bucks, good enough for me

  • @Nayr7928
    @Nayr7928 4 місяці тому

    This gives me all the more reason to finally ditch my ISP provided all in one Wifi 5 for a Wifi 6 like the Archer AX21. It just doesn't handle multiple connections well and moving files wirelessly from my devices is not as fast as I want them.

  • @Unnamed7964
    @Unnamed7964 3 місяці тому

    6:20 this is a mystery for me, the WiFi details tab shows a connection speed of 5764mbps, however, within the wifiman app it shows that you're connected through the 160mhz channel width (6:34) at 6ghz in wifi 7. What's strange is that the theoretical maximum speed for that configuration is somewhere around 4.9gbps and not 5.7gbps, why is the physical layer limit exceeding the theoretical limit of the configuration? Is the physical layer limit supposed to be higher than the theoretical limit? I'm certainly overlooking something, clarifications from anyone would be appreciated.

  • @Tholi
    @Tholi 4 місяці тому +1

    Hi Snazzy, I know you'll read this, you always read my comments. What LUTs (if any) do you use on your videos? I like look.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому +1

      Benjamin makes his own.

  • @planespeaking
    @planespeaking 4 місяці тому +1

    I think a set up video tutorial about how to set up wifi mesh networks and monitoring would be very popular from you. for me at least. I thought my recently installed half gigabit fibre connection was fast. certainly a significant boost from the 15 Mbps I had before (UK) I am always slightly perplexed by the wifi speeds mesh systems should provide and whether using them with the crappy router (modem/switch) supplied by the ISP actually matters? There never seems that much info in the sales blurb about the actual wifi speeds you should get.

    • @dumbuz
      @dumbuz 4 місяці тому

      using them with a terrible router should not matter much at 500 mbps, since you link them with ethernet. Entering multi-gigabit is when you might have to worry about the stock router not being performant enough as a modem to affect your speeds.

  • @willcarter7079
    @willcarter7079 4 місяці тому +1

    I actually have a difficult time justifying 300Mbps AT&T fiber. I can max it out while uploading footage. But I don't feel like I'm waiting a long time for the up load to finish. 🤷 It only took a few days to back up 8TB to back blaze. Maybe I am more patient than other people. But I doubt that anyone can finish their UA-cam thumbnail, title, subtitles, and tags before the video is done uploading. If you have multiple clients drawing from the ISP, I can see utilizing the multi gig internet. But just a single home user will have a difficult time getting their money's worth out of 1Gbps.
    Great video Quin. Well thought out.

    • @Fear.of.the.Dark.
      @Fear.of.the.Dark. Місяць тому +1

      You are correct. 300 to 500mbps speed for a typical home is good enough and for that, WiFi 6 is good enough as well.

  • @PankajRupani
    @PankajRupani 4 місяці тому

    Hey Quinn - Just curious at 5:39, whats running on that Pi 5?

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 місяці тому

      It’s a Pi 4! But I’m running Scrypted on it.

  • @alg003
    @alg003 4 місяці тому

    I would rather stronger more stable bandwith and connection with better range over faster speeds thats hit or miss in terms of connection and reliability.

  • @thecivilizedgamer2533
    @thecivilizedgamer2533 4 місяці тому +1

    I heard that Wifi 7 is going to give a better experience for wireless VR streaming, that's what I'm really excited about.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M 4 місяці тому +2

      Your VR headset must support Wi-Fi 7 in order to get the benefits.
      Either that or maybe you'll have to connect a Wi-Fi 7 dongle into the USB port on your headset assuming your headset allows that.

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 4 місяці тому

    These chargers are really nice, but what i really wish these charges supported was metered sharing between ports.
    At work i manage over a dozzen 36 laptop carts, and the rats nest of cables from one power brick, and effectively two cables per laptop is atrocious
    We've tried several different multi-port chargers and so far only a ~$300 250w 4 port charger actually worked as intended by dividing the power evenly between devices(IIRC 67w to each port when all were plugged in).
    Well there was one much cheaper portable battery that could do 90w to one port or..... 30 if both were in use.
    We really only need 15w, with some laptops needing 35w to prevent a charger warning at post, but so far it seems all of the bricks we've tested have some sort of internal switching that only runs 20v on a single port, dropping the other port down to either 12v or 5v
    Alternatively i'd actually prefer if someone could make a 35w charger no larger than a normnal plug face and no more than 4 inches deep that would allow for one wallport per laptop, and instead of sitting the chargers in a little basket, they can sit nice and tidy on the power strips running up and down each side of the cart