I don’t think most people will realize how important it is to have a Wifi 7 review thats is not sponsored by any Wi-Fi router company. Thank you for doing it.
I don’t think people really care about those speeds anyway. I think nearly everyone would be happy with a *reliable* gigabit connection. Reliability is the big thing
Eero are the worst products you can buy, pure garbage, and then they charge you a subscription for even seeing WiFi stats! TP Link or ASUs are far better, ASUs has no subscription, TP Link only have it for advanced parental controls which most don’t need, the included ones work fine. Both makes perform FAR better than Eero do.
They know that most people will switch as soon as the standard gets finalized and reputable brands get their products out, so they want to milk that cow asap.
@@johnmoore1495most American ISPs are not slow and over provision what they sell by 20%. Most people that complain about their ISPs are people that are complaining about Wi-Fi performance which is not a ISPs problem
@@dennisp8520 to an extent I agree about the complaining part. People don’t realize both your computer or your router could be the problem. But on the other hand most cities still have crappy speeds. My friend was still stuck with a 25Mbit connection from AT&T in a city of over 110,000 people and an overall metro area over 350,000. It wasn’t until literally last week that they installed fiber because TDS fiber is rolling out so AT&T knew they’d lose 90% of their customers if they continued to do nothing.
@@dennisp8520 to an extent I agree about the complaining part. People don’t realize both your computer or your router could be the problem. But on the other hand most cities still have crappy speeds. My friend was still stuck with a 25Mbit connection in a city of over 110,000 people and an overall metro area over 350,000. It wasn’t until literally last week that they installed fiber because a new company is rolling fiber.
This is the most accurate and accessible "tech" video I have seen in SO long. I always go in expecting to find at least a few minor inaccuracies or oversights, but seriously this video is perfect lol. You covered every aspect of this topic that matters, made it as easy to understand as you can given the subject, and didn't cut corners or skip things in the process. Good job! I recently upgraded to 2.5Gbps for my WAN connection, went through almost the same steps (I haven't tried wifi 7 yet though), and encountered the exact same limitations (including needing to use the speedtest CLI haha). I really hope the Tier 1 and Tier 2 networks make upgrades and adjust peering arrangements soon to enable more consistent multi-gig throughput.
I believe an interesting use case is Wireless backhaul for mesh networks. Sometimes people can't (not really) or don't want to put cables between units, so its a good usecase for WiFi 7.
That’s what my newer Deco mesh kit does, albeit with 6E. Allows my speeds to be much better in the other areas of my home without wires, which isn’t an easy addition to my network.
@@jacobandrewclark That's what I'm about to do, as I don't want to crawl under my house to run a Wired backhaul since the Deco WiFi 7 units are still crazy expensive, and on T-MO 5G Internet my high pull was just over 800 Mbps with my averages between 450 Mbps - just over 700 Mbps.
*it's (contraction of "it is" or "it has") its = possessive All contractions have apostrophes. Possessive pronouns never do. Another option is MoCA, which gives you an Ethernet like experience using the coax wiring you may already have in your home. The current version, MoCA 2.5, can do up to 1 Gbps in full duplex or 2.5 Gbps in half duplex, with ~3ms of latency. Snazzy did a video about this. The next version, MoCA 3.0, is supposed to be capable of up to 5 Gbps in full duplex or 10 Gbps in half duplex, but only if you give it the full RF spectrum of the coax cable (no DOCSIS Internet or cable TV). My hope (and I could be wrong) is that it will be able to work at 2.5 Gbps full duplex when used alongside DOCSIS. To my knowledge, MoCA 3.0 currently only "exists" as a finalized specification from 2018; there's no silicon available for OEMs to build products with.
@@alvallac2171 Sorry for not using apostrophes on a non-english phone keyboard and expecting autocorrect to do the work. It seems you got very offended by that simple omission.
Listening to this, I was very confused to hear that Wi-Fi seven hadn’t been ratified when I thought it had been. Upon re-watching the video I saw the editors note in text. It would be hugely beneficial to have a voice over, even if a little bit ratty for updates like this, that’s hugely important. Otherwise I loved the video!
@@toriless won’t it also take additional time for the manufacturers to catch up and finally produce products according to the correct wifi 7 certification? So wouldn’t it be better for you to wait 1-2 months more after the certification?
I notice WiFiman said you were on a 160MHz channel width. The Eero and that OnePlus both support the 320Mhz channel width on the 6GHz band, which is new with WiFi 7. You probably have to change that setting in the Eero. That should get you closer to the 8Gbps mark.
Initially I thought this wouldn't matter, but it looks like the OnePlus 11 is listed as having 2x2 MIMO which should mean it can only do 2 spatial streams. Unless I made a mistake, I think 2 streams @ 320Mhz width = 5.8Gbps max, but @ 160Mhz it'd be half that or around 2.4Gbps. I had assumed (incorrectly lol) that WiFi 7 clients would bump up the number of streams used since technically it can go up to 16.
Shit. Now what i want is try to get job from Switzerland and live there. Even for $150/month has plans 10gbps internet + channels + netflix. Amazing country. Thank you author of comment mentioned Switzerland
And i tought swizerland is more developed then bulgaria we have 32$ our currency thats 15euros a month for 600mgbs wifi and they give you the routers wifi 6 for free and the fastest they sell right now is 1200-1600mgbs but its more expensive around 80$ 40euros
The laugh, the laugh! @ 5:14 is priceless! I love your videos, and often as well the sponsors products - Buying the Nexode Pro today. Thanks Snazzy, your videos are not only informative, but fun to watch. Stay Snazzy!
Rural Maine checking in: when we bought the new place over the summer, it was advertised to get high speed internet. By the current FCC definition. And, so it does! 25 mb/s down and 3 mb/s up. Yes, that’s MEGABITS. Later this year, we finally do get fiber, and 2Gb/s symmetric will be on offer. Honestly can’t wait. Have fun everybody else with non-FCC defined high speed internet
That's what you get when you live in a rural area. That's one of the main reasons most EU residents have way better speeds. Most of us live in cities (polluted as they are) and get to enjoy better internet (and no fresh air in spite of all the regulations Americans laugh at). Move to Europe and you'll get fantastic internet at incredible prices and you won't even have to pay the equivalent of a brand new car or small 1 bedroom apartment to have it installed. Air quality might not be the same, and you might need to start buying food from the local hypermarket as opposed to growing some of it yourself. But you know, great internet.
I have FIOS, I can get 1 Gb but why? Who the F needs it, my cheap 50 Mb plan is plenty fast. It is a lot more than I need to stream 4K so who F'g cares.
I switched to 6E recently and while my internet is nowhere near maxing it out, the biggest upgrade for me was its rock solid stability. On standard 5ghz I would experience momentary interruptions several times a day. After moving to a 6E capable PCI-E Wi-Fi card, I haven’t had a single hiccup since I started using it almost a year ago. If Ethernet isn’t an option, 6E is a no-brainer.
Do you live in an apartment, or somewhere where there are many WiFi networks? Higher frequencies should be less reliable, as they have less range and wall penetration. Less interference on the 6 GHz band is likely what's fixed your issue.
Happy that you are satisfied with a wifi6e but Ethernet is always an option, actually is the main option for a desktop PC. With a wifi connection you always get a second class connection no matter what.
Just a quick comment : Wi-Fi 7 provides better bandwidth, thanks to MLO (Multi Link Operation) i.e. aggregation of the 2.4+5+6GHz band. Unfortunately current phones can only support MLO on 2 bands (2.4+5 or 5+6). Secondly, the number of stream matters: eero got 2x2@2.4GHz + 4x4@5GHz + 4x4@6GHz. Your phone is probably 2x2 on each stream. So the best Wi-Fi speed will be between 2 eero at this stage, until 4x4x4 PC cards come into the market. Regarding the standard, major features are standard and "reliable " : MLO, 320MHz bandwidth, 1024 QAM and MRU.
A lot of devices are 2x2 i have not seen any use 4x4. Accurate assessment of the situation. I don’t know if the euro has MLO enabled. I read they disabled it until more devices support it.
Wifi 7 is interesting to me mostly for internal networking. If we're hitting 2.5-5Gbit speeds on future laptops and phones for local backups to NAS etc - no point (mostly) in buying any sort of thunderbolt or usb to ethernet adapters and docking those devices. I use WiFi 5 kit atm and get about 300+ Mbit in most rooms in a 4 bed house with a few APs. meshed not hardwired. It's fine for almost all content currently. When I do upgrade to wifi 7, it'll be probably for the next 5-10 years unless there is some huge advancement that requires it 2.5Gbit internet will be in my area soon with existing cable (using FTTP and then converting to coax using DOCSIS 3.1/4) , 10Gbit with XGS-PON is being deployed by alt-nets in my area too. Offering 1Gbit now but supporting 10Gbit symmetrical later
The bottleneck emerging now is large-scale local storage transfer rates. HDDs are still most cost effective and a gigabit connection can pretty much saturate a NAS when overhead is factored in.
@@TheShortStory HDD is cost effective if... you don't factor in speed, lol. SSD have gotten so cheap I don't see the point in saving maybe a few dollars per TB to get 100x worse performance. I very much doubt most NAS with hardware modern enough to support this network speed use anything but SSDs.
I heard about browsers being the limiting factor as you get closer to about 5gbit speeds a few years ago. Forgot about it cause it had no bearing on me at the time, but seeing this vid was a good reminder about something we will all start having to take into account as we move into faster ISP plans.
It wont make a difference i have a 24 ultra and a ubiquiti WiFi 7 ap. I can get 2-gigs tops. Ultimately. The internet is slower than you so it’s pointless to upgrade at the moment lol.
@@98ws6m6cvert he has 8gig internet, so that's not the problem. The issue is in the firmware, which is very premature for wifi7. You should definitely see a difference, but very likely the AP or the client can only do 1 spatial stream when moving to 320Mhz, while it can do 2 on 160Mhz
I couldn't believe my eyes when I finally moved to Starlink, getting 250-300MB after years of 20MB in a rural area and this guy in comparison is living in 2050.
How have you been liking Starlink? I’ve heard really great things and want to get it for my grandparents who have been getting crazy slow 10Mbps rural speeds from an ISP that charges them a fortune.
@@snazzy Oh I've been very happy so far. Speeds are consistent, maybe into the 150s around mid day on heavy load but other than that it works well. Router is WiFi 6 and also no complains there. On 10MB the jump will be massive. The only requirement is a hefty unobstructed view of the sky, but there are several mounting options.
Not Starlink for me but I cannot wait for my upgrade in april in which I will be going from 20Mb/s (supposed, actually 13) to 600Mb/s fibre after having to deal with the monopolistic ISP in my town for 20 years, so excited
It's insane as someone in Australia hearing that there's somewhere on Earth you can just get 8gbps speeds like that's a normal thing, when I'm over here paying a premium for 100/40mbps (which is really more like 50/15 lmao)
2:10 I'm curious with the Ugreen segment, "zero to hero" on the 100W MacBook charger, but the MacBook is already on 82% and states "42 minutes remaining until full", how long does it actually take? Mean 100W is decent for a MacBook, and don't get me wrong, love Ugreen's products😂 unless it's some battery lifetime/long term health extender thing
Excellent review/video. Like you said in the intro Lumos Fiber just started installing Fiber infrastructure throughout our whole neighborhood and we just got the door tag that were able to get Lumos Fiber so ya were upgrading! :D
WOW! A non sponsored WiFi 7 review! Real reviews are so important. One way to guarentee I never buy a product is to have an ad blasted at me over and over, or have a youtuber give a sponsored review that's non critical of the products weak points.
God I love snazzy lab videos They’re consistently the easiest to stay engaged with, it feels like they read my mind and talk about exactly what I want to learn
3:36 Speedtes in the browser loads the CPU heavily. In my case, during the 2 Gbit connection test, on a Windows PC with an i5-8400 processor, all 6 cores are loaded at 100%. The solution is an application from Ookla, which is also available on Mac.
Question: Do you know how fast of an upload speed UA-cam can take advantage of? For example, does UA-cam utilize uploads at 2.5GBs or does it cap out at a certain point and not matter how fast your connection is?
Well based on how a theoretical 30 second upload took 10x the time. I’d say the cap is 250Mbps at most. I doubt they have a true cap. They probably just have a limited amount of processing capabilities since there’s so many videos being uploaded.
@@0bsmith0 It was in a bit of text at the bottom of the screen while he was talking, not in the audio, along with a screenshot of a Verge article that was about the spec being finalized. I definitely expect a lot of people to miss it, particularly if they're listening rather than watching.
The old-school crass terminology chosen made it hard to get through the intro. Please consider “Gateway + Satellite,” or “Primary + Secondary/Tertiary,” or “Router + Bridged APs,” or any number of contemporary descriptors. Thanks for the cool look at this awesome product though!
Wasn't WiFi 7 finalized a week and a half ago? Also, yeah, the U6 Enterprise from Ubiquiti is cheaper than Eero and has the same number of "Spatial Streams", but doesn't have the 10Gb wired connectivity, *only* 2.5Gb. The U7 Pro is *even cheaper* than the U6E, notably dropping the spatial streams to 6 rather than 10.
3:21 Looks like you've got Tree of Heaven on your property. I would recommend getting rid of that as it's a terrible invasive species. Look into how it needs to be removed as you can't just cut it or you'll get a bunch of sprouts from the roots.
6:20 this is a mystery for me, the WiFi details tab shows a connection speed of 5764mbps, however, within the wifiman app it shows that you're connected through the 160mhz channel width (6:34) at 6ghz in wifi 7. What's strange is that the theoretical maximum speed for that configuration is somewhere around 4.9gbps and not 5.7gbps, why is the physical layer limit exceeding the theoretical limit of the configuration? Is the physical layer limit supposed to be higher than the theoretical limit? I'm certainly overlooking something, clarifications from anyone would be appreciated.
Talking about nominal vs effective wifi speed, Eero Max 7 features a 4x4 antenna setup and the speed refers to this configuration. On the other hand, smartphones have a 2x2 antenna configuration. To properly test the wifi speed you should setup another device (maybe a router in bridge mode) with the same antenna configuration.
A Wifi 7 mesh system for $1600 is ridiculous. Wifi 7 doesn't have to be crazy expensive. Ubiquiti sells a Mimo 2x2 U7 Pro (Wifi 7) access point for $189. Technically you need a gateway to add to it along with a PoE switch, but even then you are looking at only around $500, and then you can add more U7 Pro access points as needed. Also, Apple was way late with Wifi 6E for the iPhone. My Pixel 6 Pro from over 2 years ago has Wifi 6E.
I actually have a difficult time justifying 300Mbps AT&T fiber. I can max it out while uploading footage. But I don't feel like I'm waiting a long time for the up load to finish. 🤷 It only took a few days to back up 8TB to back blaze. Maybe I am more patient than other people. But I doubt that anyone can finish their UA-cam thumbnail, title, subtitles, and tags before the video is done uploading. If you have multiple clients drawing from the ISP, I can see utilizing the multi gig internet. But just a single home user will have a difficult time getting their money's worth out of 1Gbps. Great video Quin. Well thought out.
I upgraded to WiFi 7 last year when my old router decided that it needed rebooting daily. I went with TP-Link's "Deco" series. A three pack like yours which similarly have two adjustable 10Gbit ports plus two 2.5Gbit ports each. My house has Ethernet to the two places I wanted to put the boosters, so I have those on the 10Gbit ports, with one 2.5Gbit port running to my cable modem, and the last 2.5Gbit port running to a 2.5 Gigabit switch that runs all my "home theater area devices" plus one more in-house Ethernet port in another room that doesn't need full 10Gbit (since that's where all the Ethernet ports congregate, and where the cable outlet is.) In my home office one of the repeaters sits, plus a 10Gbit switch, connected to four computers via 10Gbit. (Plus more
2:20, when you plugged it into your phone you cut it but not fast enough for it to show that the phone was getting "Super Fast Charging" but not "Super Fast Charging 2.0" lol
The "John Wilkes Bluetooth" pun is funny, but the "slave" and "master" stuff is a choice, and not as good as "primary" and "secondary". Or "root node" and "end node", something which explains what it is.
It would be nice to have test for latency under load, between the nodes and a node and the phone, using a tool like Crusader. Both Wi-Fi 6 and 7 claim to have theoretical latency improvements, but implementations tend to be garbage.
I forgot to mention I have 1 gig down and 40 up with the ISP at the moment. Home pods speed wouldn't really matter but the Lorex cameras might be more responsive.
I just got 10gbps internet through Sony here in southern Tokyo. I am seeing about the same speeds as you and just waiting for more devices to support wifi 7 so I can maybe actually use the whole connection.
I live in Australia and am absolutely thrilled I can get 100Mbps down. The thing I’m hoping for one day in the future would be an equal amount of upload capacity, as I have a plex server and 15Mbps up doesn’t cover the bitrate of any of my ripped Blu-Rays
What is the point of these governing alliances if they don’t punish people for advertising their devices as being a part of the spec when in fact they are just following unofficial drafts? It defeats the purpose of having an official certification if they let you just run with the name anyway and effectively deceive the market
We just got access to fiber internet where I live, and although we now have the option for gigabit speeds, 100 megabit is good enough for my family 95% of the time
You're forgetting to tell us one important thing... Does your home have fiber from the home to the utility box in the neighborhood? Sadly, most people actually don't have fiber, even when they're told they do because the utility company only runs fiber from box to box not from box to house. So no matter what you do your fiber is going to be downgraded to regular coax going into your home.if you're getting those kind of speeds, I would like to know if you know fiber is from the box to your home.
I just replaced my Airport Extreme with two TP-Link Omada EAP610s, which are only wifi 6 and they are very nice. I can get about 600 mbps out of my supposedly gigabit internet that usually maxes out at around 650/700. I am definitely looking forward to wifi 7's Multi-Link Operation, but I will definitely not buy a wifi 7 device until the standard is finalized and it has been in use for a few years.
Mixing "slower" (older tech) device with fast Wifi-7 will drag down the speed. Because the WiFi is based on time slice (not on speed), which mean each device got the same time to access the router. The same is also true when mixing WiFi 5 to WiFi 6 router and mixing WiFi 4 to WiFi 5 router.
What needs better WiFi is my terrible smart doorbell. By the time it connects, the person has left. There is only a PVC door between it and the router. Just a few meters. It requires me to maintain a 2.4ghz network as do many smart home devices. Doesn’t seem to make the doorbell any more reliable.
I picked up a WiFi 6E router today because of all the points you made and also what I care about is the 6 GHz band for getting the best connection with wireless PCVR on my Meta Quest 3. Oh, and also WiFi 6E routers are generally cheaper right now.
Wifi with subscription? C'mon! I would throw this shiit out of the window no matter how good it is.. They push everything to be in subscription and I'm sick of it.. Still I'm gonna watch this video cause I like you :) AND I'm still waiting for that 3d printer thing video you've mentioned a while ago ;)
Awesome review and it’s insane that thing cost 1700. Then they have the audacity to charge a subscription. That’s one of the reason i went over to ubiquiti. All i needed to upgrade to WiFi 7 was a capable switch and 180 AP which was still less than this setup. Ubiquiti plans to update their APs end of February for MLO so I’ll see if theirs any improvements there, but so far I’m getting most of my hardwired speeds over WiFi. S24 ultra on WiFi 7 is blazing fast, but like you mentioned the rest of the internet is slower lol.
Thank you for validating the purchase of my WiFi 6E mesh network for my new house lol I made the decision to upgrade from WiFi 6 when I moved mainly because my parents were still on WiFi 5 and their phones are new enough now to take advantage of WiFi 6 so they got a nice free upgrade 😅
The funny thing is, no one really needs speeds over a gig. Atleast most residential. I know a guy who wanted 2 gig fiber, because it was faster than 1. I tried to talk him out of it because its all wasted speed. Even UA-cam caps you at 1 gig upload speeds and he only streams movies/tv shows.
Quinn i wanna say that i have seen sometimes with my 5G based network, the upload to youtube via official app is way slower than the youtube website from the same device
What category of ethernet cable are you using? The ones that comes in the box are Cat 6a only. Try the minimum Cat 7 or 8 and let us know if there is any difference.
Do you know if your WiFi device and AP are using MLO? Otherwise, you’re just verifying a wider 6ghz channel width. The main benefit of WiFi 7 will be MLO for both speed and reliability.
Remember a speedtest is also dependent on the server you test against. If they don't have hardware to support those speeds, your test wont show the full speed. Also, even if a ISP offers 10 Gbit, it doesnt always mean 10 Gbit to the actual internet. It can be 10Gbit to their own datacenter / infrastructure. No way they have infrastructure to support every customer having a full 10Gbit connection. So its not the full truth
I've said this plenty of times but to be frank this is WAY out of scope for your Avg. Joe's mind. Not sure if it's possible to put it in more simple analogies that everyone can understand truly. 10G is so fast anyway that many serving services don't ever consider it for a "single consumer", "single session", or whatever. It's usually best for aggregated use. If you have multiple people on the same network, there, 10G is now useful.
I recently upgraded from the Eero pro 6e units. My service is only 2gb but upgraded to the Eero Max 7 to get faster wired speeds on my network. I will say it's not always about speed but coverage as the Eero Max 7 offers that over the previous model.
As an editor, I use my 1Gb fiber all day. I can download and upload hours of video (compressed) as if they're already on my PC. Funny thing is, my ISP offers 10 Gb. Well, it's obvious to me that some day I'll want it, but right now it's useless. Although, I legit could do 3x the work of my colleagues, because I'm never waiting for file management. Totally agree it's not worth the rush to get into new wifi. Wifi 6/e will be great for streaking games and tv to devices in 4k, but now the bottleneck has been made very abstract indeed.
Paying a subscription fee for features that are on your own consumer router that cost the company nothing to run is insane on such an expensive device. Yeah, I’m definitely going to stick with Ubiquity.
I don't know what you are doing wrong, but I'm getting 4200MBps on a oneplus 11 with a tplink Deco BE85. Speedtest on a PC and browser also manages almost 8Gb on an 8Gb connection. Possibly the Eero is just simply not very good, that wouldn't surprise me since it's an amazon product. Also, the WiFi 7 alliance has certified multiple WiFi 7 devices already. In addition, MLO isn't being supported by all devices yet, when they do, the speed will also go up. It seems to be working for me, so that's probably why I manage to get these speeds. But windows doesn't support it yet, so windows laptops with WiFi 7 will get way faster as soon as windows starts supporting it, hopefully in the next big update.
I believe Wi-Fi 7 is certified at the time you published this video(although most likely not certified during the make of this video). But the single most important feature of Wi-Fi 7 I'm looking forward to if you can connet to 2.4/5/6 bands simountinously, it will provides much better reliable connection when I'm roaming in my house.
I don’t think most people will realize how important it is to have a Wifi 7 review thats is not sponsored by any Wi-Fi router company. Thank you for doing it.
I don’t think people really care about those speeds anyway. I think nearly everyone would be happy with a *reliable* gigabit connection. Reliability is the big thing
Xfinity’s like “Reliability? Never heard of it.”
@@snazzywhy are you always so negative on twitter lol
For now. I expect Call of Duty to single handedly fill up 3TB of space 10-15 years from now.
@@kamilb8232 lol
Reliable, low-ping, gigabit is all I need
It is insane that a $1700 product still nickel and dimes you.
Yeah, and it’s common regretfully. They aren’t the only ones paywalling features in expensive network hardware.
@@Merabbitthat’s why Ubiquiti beats this stuff out by a long shot lol. No subscription for anything.
Eero are the worst products you can buy, pure garbage, and then they charge you a subscription for even seeing WiFi stats! TP Link or ASUs are far better, ASUs has no subscription, TP Link only have it for advanced parental controls which most don’t need, the included ones work fine. Both makes perform FAR better than Eero do.
If I want to buy a product and there's a subscription on top of that, ita an automatic nope...
They know that most people will switch as soon as the standard gets finalized and reputable brands get their products out, so they want to milk that cow asap.
I work as an engineer at a local ISP (also in Utah!) and I wish I could send this video to every customer that complain about slow speeds.
Haha I won’t tell if you don’t! 😜
Knowing how most American ISPs are in regards to speed, wouldn’t be surprised if your service was just slow as well though lol.
@@johnmoore1495most American ISPs are not slow and over provision what they sell by 20%. Most people that complain about their ISPs are people that are complaining about Wi-Fi performance which is not a ISPs problem
@@dennisp8520 to an extent I agree about the complaining part. People don’t realize both your computer or your router could be the problem. But on the other hand most cities still have crappy speeds. My friend was still stuck with a 25Mbit connection from AT&T in a city of over 110,000 people and an overall metro area over 350,000. It wasn’t until literally last week that they installed fiber because TDS fiber is rolling out so AT&T knew they’d lose 90% of their customers if they continued to do nothing.
@@dennisp8520 to an extent I agree about the complaining part. People don’t realize both your computer or your router could be the problem. But on the other hand most cities still have crappy speeds. My friend was still stuck with a 25Mbit connection in a city of over 110,000 people and an overall metro area over 350,000. It wasn’t until literally last week that they installed fiber because a new company is rolling fiber.
This is the most accurate and accessible "tech" video I have seen in SO long. I always go in expecting to find at least a few minor inaccuracies or oversights, but seriously this video is perfect lol. You covered every aspect of this topic that matters, made it as easy to understand as you can given the subject, and didn't cut corners or skip things in the process. Good job! I recently upgraded to 2.5Gbps for my WAN connection, went through almost the same steps (I haven't tried wifi 7 yet though), and encountered the exact same limitations (including needing to use the speedtest CLI haha). I really hope the Tier 1 and Tier 2 networks make upgrades and adjust peering arrangements soon to enable more consistent multi-gig throughput.
I actually found it confused and jumping around a lot.
I believe an interesting use case is Wireless backhaul for mesh networks. Sometimes people can't (not really) or don't want to put cables between units, so its a good usecase for WiFi 7.
That’s what my newer Deco mesh kit does, albeit with 6E. Allows my speeds to be much better in the other areas of my home without wires, which isn’t an easy addition to my network.
@@jacobandrewclark That's what I'm about to do, as I don't want to crawl under my house to run a Wired backhaul since the Deco WiFi 7 units are still crazy expensive, and on T-MO 5G Internet my high pull was just over 800 Mbps with my averages between 450 Mbps - just over 700 Mbps.
@@CommodoreFan64should work great for that. I’ve got 500 as my cap and can still get low 400s on my second node in the next room.
*it's (contraction of "it is" or "it has")
its = possessive
All contractions have apostrophes. Possessive pronouns never do.
Another option is MoCA, which gives you an Ethernet like experience using the coax wiring you may already have in your home. The current version, MoCA 2.5, can do up to 1 Gbps in full duplex or 2.5 Gbps in half duplex, with ~3ms of latency. Snazzy did a video about this.
The next version, MoCA 3.0, is supposed to be capable of up to 5 Gbps in full duplex or 10 Gbps in half duplex, but only if you give it the full RF spectrum of the coax cable (no DOCSIS Internet or cable TV). My hope (and I could be wrong) is that it will be able to work at 2.5 Gbps full duplex when used alongside DOCSIS. To my knowledge, MoCA 3.0 currently only "exists" as a finalized specification from 2018; there's no silicon available for OEMs to build products with.
@@alvallac2171 Sorry for not using apostrophes on a non-english phone keyboard and expecting autocorrect to do the work. It seems you got very offended by that simple omission.
Listening to this, I was very confused to hear that Wi-Fi seven hadn’t been ratified when I thought it had been. Upon re-watching the video I saw the editors note in text. It would be hugely beneficial to have a voice over, even if a little bit ratty for updates like this, that’s hugely important. Otherwise I loved the video!
It's already finalized
But it takes time for all the device got certified
It is now. I refused to until is was.
@@toriless won’t it also take additional time for the manufacturers to catch up and finally produce products according to the correct wifi 7 certification? So wouldn’t it be better for you to wait 1-2 months more after the certification?
I notice WiFiman said you were on a 160MHz channel width. The Eero and that OnePlus both support the 320Mhz channel width on the 6GHz band, which is new with WiFi 7. You probably have to change that setting in the Eero. That should get you closer to the 8Gbps mark.
you are a very advanced level nerd to see and realise that
Glad you noticed and posted this so I didn’t bother watching the rest of the video.
Reattempted and there was zero speed difference. Possible firmware issue? Idk. Cheers.
Initially I thought this wouldn't matter, but it looks like the OnePlus 11 is listed as having 2x2 MIMO which should mean it can only do 2 spatial streams. Unless I made a mistake, I think 2 streams @ 320Mhz width = 5.8Gbps max, but @ 160Mhz it'd be half that or around 2.4Gbps. I had assumed (incorrectly lol) that WiFi 7 clients would bump up the number of streams used since technically it can go up to 16.
U shld try it on the galaxy s24 ultra at 320 mghz probably can handle it better
People in Switzerland be like “ what is he talking about, I have perfectly good Internet from my 10 giga bit fiber for $30 a month”
And people in Germany saying "my 150 year old telephone cable gives me perfectly good 30 Mbit/s for 50€/mo"
Is it really that cheap in Switzerland?
Shit. Now what i want is try to get job from Switzerland and live there.
Even for $150/month has plans 10gbps internet + channels + netflix. Amazing country. Thank you author of comment mentioned Switzerland
And i tought swizerland is more developed then bulgaria we have 32$ our currency thats 15euros a month for 600mgbs wifi and they give you the routers wifi 6 for free and the fastest they sell right now is 1200-1600mgbs but its more expensive around 80$ 40euros
The laugh, the laugh! @ 5:14 is priceless! I love your videos, and often as well the sponsors products - Buying the Nexode Pro today. Thanks Snazzy, your videos are not only informative, but fun to watch. Stay Snazzy!
Rural Maine checking in: when we bought the new place over the summer, it was advertised to get high speed internet. By the current FCC definition.
And, so it does!
25 mb/s down and 3 mb/s up. Yes, that’s MEGABITS. Later this year, we finally do get fiber, and 2Gb/s symmetric will be on offer. Honestly can’t wait. Have fun everybody else with non-FCC defined high speed internet
Woof that’s rough. Here’s hoping that fiber comes fast!
That's what you get when you live in a rural area. That's one of the main reasons most EU residents have way better speeds. Most of us live in cities (polluted as they are) and get to enjoy better internet (and no fresh air in spite of all the regulations Americans laugh at). Move to Europe and you'll get fantastic internet at incredible prices and you won't even have to pay the equivalent of a brand new car or small 1 bedroom apartment to have it installed. Air quality might not be the same, and you might need to start buying food from the local hypermarket as opposed to growing some of it yourself. But you know, great internet.
I have FIOS, I can get 1 Gb but why? Who the F needs it, my cheap 50 Mb plan is plenty fast. It is a lot more than I need to stream 4K so who F'g cares.
Finally Wi-Fi speeds I can properly stream movies on. I'll start of course with the works of Christopher NoLAN.
LOL.
@@0bsmith0🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha😂
The multi-band concurrent connection is the really game changer for wifi 7. Solid connection with no interruptions
you deserve so many more subscribers, this content is unmatched
Thank you!!
I switched to 6E recently and while my internet is nowhere near maxing it out, the biggest upgrade for me was its rock solid stability. On standard 5ghz I would experience momentary interruptions several times a day. After moving to a 6E capable PCI-E Wi-Fi card, I haven’t had a single hiccup since I started using it almost a year ago. If Ethernet isn’t an option, 6E is a no-brainer.
Do you live in an apartment, or somewhere where there are many WiFi networks? Higher frequencies should be less reliable, as they have less range and wall penetration. Less interference on the 6 GHz band is likely what's fixed your issue.
Happy that you are satisfied with a wifi6e but
Ethernet is always an option, actually is the main option for a desktop PC. With a wifi connection you always get a second class connection no matter what.
Not always an option. Not everyone can wire up their home easily@@blender_wiki
WHY??? WiFi 7 has been in development for years. It is why I never bought any WiFi 6 or mesh shitware. It was worth the wait.
“John Wilkes Bluetooth”
I was laughing my arse off 😂
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@@snazzy Is he gonna shoot Abraham Lancoln?
6:22 Wi-Fi > Three dots on the top right > More settings > Wi-Fi Status display > Wi-Fi version label. Good video though, Quinn!
Just a quick comment : Wi-Fi 7 provides better bandwidth, thanks to MLO (Multi Link Operation) i.e. aggregation of the 2.4+5+6GHz band. Unfortunately current phones can only support MLO on 2 bands (2.4+5 or 5+6). Secondly, the number of stream matters: eero got 2x2@2.4GHz + 4x4@5GHz + 4x4@6GHz. Your phone is probably 2x2 on each stream. So the best Wi-Fi speed will be between 2 eero at this stage, until 4x4x4 PC cards come into the market.
Regarding the standard, major features are standard and "reliable " : MLO, 320MHz bandwidth, 1024 QAM and MRU.
A lot of devices are 2x2 i have not seen any use 4x4. Accurate assessment of the situation. I don’t know if the euro has MLO enabled. I read they disabled it until more devices support it.
Yes it does make sense..
it the video POV ..he did connected to WiFi7 fkr sure..but using 6E's 6GHz connection as frequency!
Wifi 7 is interesting to me mostly for internal networking. If we're hitting 2.5-5Gbit speeds on future laptops and phones for local backups to NAS etc - no point (mostly) in buying any sort of thunderbolt or usb to ethernet adapters and docking those devices. I use WiFi 5 kit atm and get about 300+ Mbit in most rooms in a 4 bed house with a few APs. meshed not hardwired. It's fine for almost all content currently. When I do upgrade to wifi 7, it'll be probably for the next 5-10 years unless there is some huge advancement that requires it
2.5Gbit internet will be in my area soon with existing cable (using FTTP and then converting to coax using DOCSIS 3.1/4) , 10Gbit with XGS-PON is being deployed by alt-nets in my area too. Offering 1Gbit now but supporting 10Gbit symmetrical later
The bottleneck emerging now is large-scale local storage transfer rates. HDDs are still most cost effective and a gigabit connection can pretty much saturate a NAS when overhead is factored in.
@@TheShortStory HDD is cost effective if... you don't factor in speed, lol. SSD have gotten so cheap I don't see the point in saving maybe a few dollars per TB to get 100x worse performance. I very much doubt most NAS with hardware modern enough to support this network speed use anything but SSDs.
I do a lot of LAN video, for WAN who cares as long as my Roku Ultra or HDTV can do 4K streams. I have 10 - 25 Gbits equipment with 100 Gbit wiring.
I heard about browsers being the limiting factor as you get closer to about 5gbit speeds a few years ago. Forgot about it cause it had no bearing on me at the time, but seeing this vid was a good reminder about something we will all start having to take into account as we move into faster ISP plans.
Mostly Firefox, Chrome can keep up.
WiFi 7 supports up to 320 MHz per channel. Your phone said it was connected at 160 MHz. Enable a 320 MHz channel and report back.
It wont make a difference i have a 24 ultra and a ubiquiti WiFi 7 ap. I can get 2-gigs tops. Ultimately. The internet is slower than you so it’s pointless to upgrade at the moment lol.
@@98ws6m6cvert he has 8gig internet, so that's not the problem. The issue is in the firmware, which is very premature for wifi7. You should definitely see a difference, but very likely the AP or the client can only do 1 spatial stream when moving to 320Mhz, while it can do 2 on 160Mhz
@@98ws6m6cvert does the s24 ultra support 320 MHz channels or 160 MHz ?
The thing is he is using Wifi 7 for sure..but in WiFi 6Ghz bamd only at a time..not using Tri-band upon MLO
Up to is the big if here. WiFi 6 also supports up to 160mhz but majority devices on the market does 80mhz.
0:18 kill me the maximum speed Comcast offers in my area (Portland OR) is 1.2Gig and they want $116 a month for it.
I couldn't believe my eyes when I finally moved to Starlink, getting 250-300MB after years of 20MB in a rural area and this guy in comparison is living in 2050.
How have you been liking Starlink? I’ve heard really great things and want to get it for my grandparents who have been getting crazy slow 10Mbps rural speeds from an ISP that charges them a fortune.
@@snazzy Oh I've been very happy so far. Speeds are consistent, maybe into the 150s around mid day on heavy load but other than that it works well.
Router is WiFi 6 and also no complains there.
On 10MB the jump will be massive.
The only requirement is a hefty unobstructed view of the sky, but there are several mounting options.
Not Starlink for me but I cannot wait for my upgrade in april in which I will be going from 20Mb/s (supposed, actually 13) to 600Mb/s fibre after having to deal with the monopolistic ISP in my town for 20 years, so excited
It's insane as someone in Australia hearing that there's somewhere on Earth you can just get 8gbps speeds like that's a normal thing, when I'm over here paying a premium for 100/40mbps (which is really more like 50/15 lmao)
2:10 I'm curious with the Ugreen segment, "zero to hero" on the 100W MacBook charger, but the MacBook is already on 82% and states "42 minutes remaining until full", how long does it actually take? Mean 100W is decent for a MacBook, and don't get me wrong, love Ugreen's products😂 unless it's some battery lifetime/long term health extender thing
The last 10% of a charge is always the slowest and when the display is on it charges even slower. ;)
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Wow, thank you so much for the reply! ! Love your vids, keep up the awesome work🔥
Excellent review/video. Like you said in the intro Lumos Fiber just started installing Fiber infrastructure throughout our whole neighborhood and we just got the door tag that were able to get Lumos Fiber so ya were upgrading! :D
WOW! A non sponsored WiFi 7 review! Real reviews are so important. One way to guarentee I never buy a product is to have an ad blasted at me over and over, or have a youtuber give a sponsored review that's non critical of the products weak points.
God I love snazzy lab videos
They’re consistently the easiest to stay engaged with, it feels like they read my mind and talk about exactly what I want to learn
6:19 OnePlus does allow your to show the WiFi revision number by the near the WiFi icon, you need to enable it from your setting.
Your WiFi/home networking/smart home videos are my favorite.
3:36 Speedtes in the browser loads the CPU heavily. In my case, during the 2 Gbit connection test, on a Windows PC with an i5-8400 processor, all 6 cores are loaded at 100%. The solution is an application from Ookla, which is also available on Mac.
Question: Do you know how fast of an upload speed UA-cam can take advantage of? For example, does UA-cam utilize uploads at 2.5GBs or does it cap out at a certain point and not matter how fast your connection is?
Well based on how a theoretical 30 second upload took 10x the time. I’d say the cap is 250Mbps at most. I doubt they have a true cap. They probably just have a limited amount of processing capabilities since there’s so many videos being uploaded.
The spec has been finalized already. Devices are now going through certification testing.
Yes, see the note we made in the video.
@@snazzy I watched a large portion of the video but not all the way through so I might have missed something.
@@0bsmith0 It was in a bit of text at the bottom of the screen while he was talking, not in the audio, along with a screenshot of a Verge article that was about the spec being finalized. I definitely expect a lot of people to miss it, particularly if they're listening rather than watching.
The old-school crass terminology chosen made it hard to get through the intro. Please consider “Gateway + Satellite,” or “Primary + Secondary/Tertiary,” or “Router + Bridged APs,” or any number of contemporary descriptors. Thanks for the cool look at this awesome product though!
Wasn't WiFi 7 finalized a week and a half ago? Also, yeah, the U6 Enterprise from Ubiquiti is cheaper than Eero and has the same number of "Spatial Streams", but doesn't have the 10Gb wired connectivity, *only* 2.5Gb. The U7 Pro is *even cheaper* than the U6E, notably dropping the spatial streams to 6 rather than 10.
3:21 Looks like you've got Tree of Heaven on your property. I would recommend getting rid of that as it's a terrible invasive species. Look into how it needs to be removed as you can't just cut it or you'll get a bunch of sprouts from the roots.
They’re awful. Both of my neighbors have them and we have to make them pull them out. I hate them. I try my best to destroy them.
@@snazzy Dang! We'll, I'm glad you're aware of them. Hopefully you will eventually be able to destroy them. 😈
6:20 this is a mystery for me, the WiFi details tab shows a connection speed of 5764mbps, however, within the wifiman app it shows that you're connected through the 160mhz channel width (6:34) at 6ghz in wifi 7. What's strange is that the theoretical maximum speed for that configuration is somewhere around 4.9gbps and not 5.7gbps, why is the physical layer limit exceeding the theoretical limit of the configuration? Is the physical layer limit supposed to be higher than the theoretical limit? I'm certainly overlooking something, clarifications from anyone would be appreciated.
Hey Quinn - Just curious at 5:39, whats running on that Pi 5?
It’s a Pi 4! But I’m running Scrypted on it.
Talking about nominal vs effective wifi speed, Eero Max 7 features a 4x4 antenna setup and the speed refers to this configuration.
On the other hand, smartphones have a 2x2 antenna configuration.
To properly test the wifi speed you should setup another device (maybe a router in bridge mode) with the same antenna configuration.
Great video Quinn. I half expected an "I'm Quitting UA-cam" video from you 😂
A Wifi 7 mesh system for $1600 is ridiculous. Wifi 7 doesn't have to be crazy expensive. Ubiquiti sells a Mimo 2x2 U7 Pro (Wifi 7) access point for $189. Technically you need a gateway to add to it along with a PoE switch, but even then you are looking at only around $500, and then you can add more U7 Pro access points as needed. Also, Apple was way late with Wifi 6E for the iPhone. My Pixel 6 Pro from over 2 years ago has Wifi 6E.
I actually have a difficult time justifying 300Mbps AT&T fiber. I can max it out while uploading footage. But I don't feel like I'm waiting a long time for the up load to finish. 🤷 It only took a few days to back up 8TB to back blaze. Maybe I am more patient than other people. But I doubt that anyone can finish their UA-cam thumbnail, title, subtitles, and tags before the video is done uploading. If you have multiple clients drawing from the ISP, I can see utilizing the multi gig internet. But just a single home user will have a difficult time getting their money's worth out of 1Gbps.
Great video Quin. Well thought out.
You are correct. 300 to 500mbps speed for a typical home is good enough and for that, WiFi 6 is good enough as well.
I upgraded to WiFi 7 last year when my old router decided that it needed rebooting daily. I went with TP-Link's "Deco" series. A three pack like yours which similarly have two adjustable 10Gbit ports plus two 2.5Gbit ports each. My house has Ethernet to the two places I wanted to put the boosters, so I have those on the 10Gbit ports, with one 2.5Gbit port running to my cable modem, and the last 2.5Gbit port running to a 2.5 Gigabit switch that runs all my "home theater area devices" plus one more in-house Ethernet port in another room that doesn't need full 10Gbit (since that's where all the Ethernet ports congregate, and where the cable outlet is.)
In my home office one of the repeaters sits, plus a 10Gbit switch, connected to four computers via 10Gbit. (Plus more
Very informative video. The production quality is amazing too!
2:20, when you plugged it into your phone you cut it but not fast enough for it to show that the phone was getting
"Super Fast Charging" but not "Super Fast Charging 2.0" lol
The "John Wilkes Bluetooth" pun is funny, but the "slave" and "master" stuff is a choice, and not as good as "primary" and "secondary". Or "root node" and "end node", something which explains what it is.
It would be nice to have test for latency under load, between the nodes and a node and the phone, using a tool like Crusader. Both Wi-Fi 6 and 7 claim to have theoretical latency improvements, but implementations tend to be garbage.
Great video
I'm interested in what you use pop os for
I don’t really have a desktop Mac at home and I prefer Linux to Windows so just for general compute stuff.
that's a surprising fact to me actually@@snazzy
I forgot to mention I have 1 gig down and 40 up with the ISP at the moment. Home pods speed wouldn't really matter but the Lorex cameras might be more responsive.
bUt wHY noT uSE eThERnEt fOr gAmIng PeRfoRmAnCe
am in morroco and we have 200mb wifi for 100dolar in mounth
Thank you for the great content!
Thanks for watching!
I just got 10gbps internet through Sony here in southern Tokyo. I am seeing about the same speeds as you and just waiting for more devices to support wifi 7 so I can maybe actually use the whole connection.
Sony is an ISP in Japan? That's oddly cool
@@Sithhy yes, they do a lot of stuff here. You can also get your home gas from them
I live in Australia and am absolutely thrilled I can get 100Mbps down. The thing I’m hoping for one day in the future would be an equal amount of upload capacity, as I have a plex server and 15Mbps up doesn’t cover the bitrate of any of my ripped Blu-Rays
Me living in Germany saying to 250Mbit/s "its not bad", he be like *7Gbit/s down* - alright, thats not bad xD
What is the point of these governing alliances if they don’t punish people for advertising their devices as being a part of the spec when in fact they are just following unofficial drafts? It defeats the purpose of having an official certification if they let you just run with the name anyway and effectively deceive the market
We just got access to fiber internet where I live, and although we now have the option for gigabit speeds, 100 megabit is good enough for my family 95% of the time
one thing i love about wifi 7 is that it offers improvements at a distance, so your low signal 40mbps is like 80mbps.
“Yeah hey Doc…Why is the tumor shaped like a Wi-Fi antenna?”
4:28 fiber optic cables better to not bend like that
Geez, I can't even get a symmetrical gigabit connection here at my house... I'd do bad, dirty things for a fiber connection at 1 gigabit.
Your content is just top notch
Thank you for switching to Ugreen as your sponsor
People in Poland laughing in the corner with 10Gbps connection for just $35 a month
6:28 - was that your local ip there on the left?
It’s not static so not worried :)
@@snazzy nice. Saw the tracert earlier blurred but if I remember was b roll from a previous video.
It was. That was from when we *did* have a static IP. Appreciate the comment and heads up though! :D Thanks for watching.
You're forgetting to tell us one important thing... Does your home have fiber from the home to the utility box in the neighborhood? Sadly, most people actually don't have fiber, even when they're told they do because the utility company only runs fiber from box to box not from box to house. So no matter what you do your fiber is going to be downgraded to regular coax going into your home.if you're getting those kind of speeds, I would like to know if you know fiber is from the box to your home.
I just replaced my Airport Extreme with two TP-Link Omada EAP610s, which are only wifi 6 and they are very nice. I can get about 600 mbps out of my supposedly gigabit internet that usually maxes out at around 650/700. I am definitely looking forward to wifi 7's Multi-Link Operation, but I will definitely not buy a wifi 7 device until the standard is finalized and it has been in use for a few years.
Mixing "slower" (older tech) device with fast Wifi-7 will drag down the speed.
Because the WiFi is based on time slice (not on speed), which mean each device got the same time to access the router.
The same is also true when mixing WiFi 5 to WiFi 6 router
and mixing WiFi 4 to WiFi 5 router.
hits 7k down - "eeeh that's not bad" this man says
Very well done, useful 😊
What needs better WiFi is my terrible smart doorbell. By the time it connects, the person has left. There is only a PVC door between it and the router. Just a few meters. It requires me to maintain a 2.4ghz network as do many smart home devices. Doesn’t seem to make the doorbell any more reliable.
I picked up a WiFi 6E router today because of all the points you made and also what I care about is the 6 GHz band for getting the best connection with wireless PCVR on my Meta Quest 3. Oh, and also WiFi 6E routers are generally cheaper right now.
Nothing makes my day more than a Snazzy Labs video
1:25 Yikes perhaps we can use terms like “primary and secondary” or “leader and follower” instead mix “master and slave”
Wifi with subscription? C'mon! I would throw this shiit out of the window no matter how good it is.. They push everything to be in subscription and I'm sick of it.. Still I'm gonna watch this video cause I like you :) AND I'm still waiting for that 3d printer thing video you've mentioned a while ago ;)
Awesome review and it’s insane that thing cost 1700. Then they have the audacity to charge a subscription. That’s one of the reason i went over to ubiquiti. All i needed to upgrade to WiFi 7 was a capable switch and 180 AP which was still less than this setup. Ubiquiti plans to update their APs end of February for MLO so I’ll see if theirs any improvements there, but so far I’m getting most of my hardwired speeds over WiFi. S24 ultra on WiFi 7 is blazing fast, but like you mentioned the rest of the internet is slower lol.
Wait didn't wifi 7 finalized and come out around CES? The routers did come out before it was finalized. Unless I misunderstood what you said
Great video!
Thank you for validating the purchase of my WiFi 6E mesh network for my new house lol
I made the decision to upgrade from WiFi 6 when I moved mainly because my parents were still on WiFi 5 and their phones are new enough now to take advantage of WiFi 6 so they got a nice free upgrade 😅
I’m still considering adding a WiFi 7 AP into my Ubiquiti setup. Fairly cheap if (like me) you’re already in that ecosystem.
Is it even worth it? I mean does have to do something with the servers you are connecting to?
The funny thing is, no one really needs speeds over a gig. Atleast most residential. I know a guy who wanted 2 gig fiber, because it was faster than 1. I tried to talk him out of it because its all wasted speed. Even UA-cam caps you at 1 gig upload speeds and he only streams movies/tv shows.
Can you test the TP-Link WiFi 7 Routers?
Quinn i wanna say that i have seen sometimes with my 5G based network, the upload to youtube via official app is way slower than the youtube website from the same device
For OnePlus you can view your Wi-Fi version by going under the Wi-Fi status display and turning on the Wi-Fi version number.
Why does it look line you‘re in front of a greenscreen at 9:15 ?
Is this a modern Marvel movie?
lol idk but I am very much in front of my real bathroom.
Yeah 5g speeds often are insane. Yet when trying to download stuff on UA-cam or Netflix it's just slow af.
Thanks for the great content !
Seeing PopOS, i always was curious if an easy to use distro could be a chromebook competitor.
And then theres switzerland where you can choose between 10 Gbit/s and 25 Gbit/s for 79 $ :D
What category of ethernet cable are you using? The ones that comes in the box are Cat 6a only. Try the minimum Cat 7 or 8 and let us know if there is any difference.
Pop OS view bonus. Nice Wifi 7 review also.
Need to set up an iperf3 server and test with that, completely over LAN
Do you know if your WiFi device and AP are using MLO? Otherwise, you’re just verifying a wider 6ghz channel width. The main benefit of WiFi 7 will be MLO for both speed and reliability.
Remember a speedtest is also dependent on the server you test against. If they don't have hardware to support those speeds, your test wont show the full speed.
Also, even if a ISP offers 10 Gbit, it doesnt always mean 10 Gbit to the actual internet. It can be 10Gbit to their own datacenter / infrastructure.
No way they have infrastructure to support every customer having a full 10Gbit connection. So its not the full truth
I've said this plenty of times but to be frank this is WAY out of scope for your Avg. Joe's mind. Not sure if it's possible to put it in more simple analogies that everyone can understand truly.
10G is so fast anyway that many serving services don't ever consider it for a "single consumer", "single session", or whatever. It's usually best for aggregated use. If you have multiple people on the same network, there, 10G is now useful.
I recently upgraded from the Eero pro 6e units. My service is only 2gb but upgraded to the Eero Max 7 to get faster wired speeds on my network.
I will say it's not always about speed but coverage as the Eero Max 7 offers that over the previous model.
As an editor, I use my 1Gb fiber all day. I can download and upload hours of video (compressed) as if they're already on my PC. Funny thing is, my ISP offers 10 Gb. Well, it's obvious to me that some day I'll want it, but right now it's useless. Although, I legit could do 3x the work of my colleagues, because I'm never waiting for file management.
Totally agree it's not worth the rush to get into new wifi. Wifi 6/e will be great for streaking games and tv to devices in 4k, but now the bottleneck has been made very abstract indeed.
It's a little cold for streaking games, I'd say.
4k streaming requires 30mbps speed max.
Paying a subscription fee for features that are on your own consumer router that cost the company nothing to run is insane on such an expensive device. Yeah, I’m definitely going to stick with Ubiquity.
I don't know what you are doing wrong, but I'm getting 4200MBps on a oneplus 11 with a tplink Deco BE85. Speedtest on a PC and browser also manages almost 8Gb on an 8Gb connection. Possibly the Eero is just simply not very good, that wouldn't surprise me since it's an amazon product. Also, the WiFi 7 alliance has certified multiple WiFi 7 devices already.
In addition, MLO isn't being supported by all devices yet, when they do, the speed will also go up. It seems to be working for me, so that's probably why I manage to get these speeds. But windows doesn't support it yet, so windows laptops with WiFi 7 will get way faster as soon as windows starts supporting it, hopefully in the next big update.
You should try a Firewalla out. I think you would like it.
I believe Wi-Fi 7 is certified at the time you published this video(although most likely not certified during the make of this video). But the single most important feature of Wi-Fi 7 I'm looking forward to if you can connet to 2.4/5/6 bands simountinously, it will provides much better reliable connection when I'm roaming in my house.
Did you tinker with the settings? Did you use 320mhz channel and aggregate with 5Ghz?