its finally great to hear an honest gawddamn critical thinker. its a real struggle to train clients to understand the diff between phone photos and actual living artwork, however beginners are the best to indoctinate and make a lifelong dedicated client, side note the hosts fotos are gretly edited with contrast
The best part of this kind of conversation is that you give away so much precious reference that I have never heard about. I love Capo because of it, he's a true fan of the whole thing and he's not afraid to say it. That guy Biedron you mentioned is one of the sickest illustrators I've ever seen, can't think you enough. And PLEASE go check the Frazetta documentary Capobianco talks about in the end of the video. I've watched it dozens of times and it shows how bizarre the man was. The dude was a maniac, some of those paintings we love were painted realy fast like an overnight thing, one siting and he got a masterpiece done. Great job, guys. One of the best episodes for sure.
super siiick episode! capo is legendary and I miss the days when there were less artists and people stood out more for being unique and having a recognizable style. I still have stacks of tattoo mags and tattoo books and that is something irreplaceable to me. I'm basically close to jon's age, but feel weird abt being in the middle of two wildy different generations of tattooers. seeing the current state of the industry, it really makes me miss what actually turned me on to this form of art. thankfully a lot of the names I learned early on and whose work I valued are still relevant to some of us. I feel the respect and accolades that used to mean something have been replaced by smart-ass quips in comment sections, and everybody's "expertise" in any given subject. anyway, I could rant abt this shit forever. great podcast!!
Joe C was a huge influence on me in 90s too. Cool to hear this talk. Personally it always sets off an alarm in my head to hear tattooing called an industry. I don't think it ever has been an industry, it has always been a lifestyle craft. I thinks its an important distinction, and normalizing all the behavior of parties who are TRYING to industrialize and exploit tattooing by calling it an industry. So when y'all switched from "the industry" to "the trade" during the conversation I was happy to hear it.
I’m not an artist, just a tattoo enthusiast with a lot of ink who loves to learn about tattoo history and what the industry is like. From a client’s perspective I think your take are spot on. I don’t think getting an apprenticeship is the end-all be-all to become and artist but I think it IS such a vital step in the process. Because you should presumably be apprenticing over someone who will teach you all the stuff you can’t just learn from watching a YT video. You’re getting that personal hands on life experience. But also? It teaches you that being a tattoo artist is fucking work. It’s not just doing tattoos and making money, it’s cleaning and paying bills and learning how to talk to clients (and keep clients) and all that unglamorous stuff. Regarding criticism, why would anyone respect an artist (in any medium, not just tattoos) who didn’t want critique and didn’t want to push themselves to get better? Yeah obviously someone can be an asshole and just shit on work without merit, but if it’s well-intentioned genuine critique then it should be embraced. Because otherwise what is the point? I’ve have work from artists who I got years ago and it’s cool to see how far they’ve come and how much they’ve improved. I love the tattoos I have but I also love knowing that they are that much better. In a way it gives me pride to know I was a part of their journey as an artist (even if was just a tiny part). Also, I would never go to an artist who didn’t post healed work. Or one who didn’t know how to have a conversation about the design and why they made the changes they did. I absolutely have faith in the artists, but I want to hear why they did something, because then I know they actually know what they’re talking about. Not saying we have to argue (and I wouldn’t want to), more like we can have a discussion about what works and what doesn’t. Anyway I’m like only 15 minutes into this episode but I had to comment. 😂
Yo! That alien cyborg at 57:00 is my tattoo! Its about 3 years healed at this point, looks great still. Kinda crazy to see on here. Im a tattoo collector from WA and got work from alot of great artist, Michael Kelly, Josh Payne, Chris Primm, James Tex etc
love this podcast! i'm 22, been tattooing 2 years now and my dads been tattooing since before i was born so im definitely a newer artist but i was raised in a shop so i can see both sides of the coin right
Yeah that was really strange to hear, also, I never understood why white people need to voice how another white person doing black face doesn’t offend them personally, like….of course it doesn’t offend you, cus that sort of hate isn’t targeted towards you or people that look like you. So ignorant 🤦🏽♂️
Yeah that’s weird, came straight to the comment section…What’s crazy is during an Instagram live… I wrote that he looks racist 😅 and screenshot his reaction
the rant against HD tvs was hilarious and a little cringey. it looks like video because you need to adjust your factory tv settings old man! lmao sheesh
After 20 years tattooing, i do hear you Joe!!!! Keep speaking the truth, apparently it scares people more than tattoos now😂😂🤘🤘 cheers guys!
We need more Joe
its finally great to hear an honest gawddamn critical thinker. its a real struggle to train clients to understand the diff between phone photos and actual living artwork, however beginners are the best to indoctinate and make a lifelong dedicated client, side note the hosts fotos are gretly edited with contrast
The best part of this kind of conversation is that you give away so much precious reference that I have never heard about. I love Capo because of it, he's a true fan of the whole thing and he's not afraid to say it. That guy Biedron you mentioned is one of the sickest illustrators I've ever seen, can't think you enough. And PLEASE go check the Frazetta documentary Capobianco talks about in the end of the video. I've watched it dozens of times and it shows how bizarre the man was. The dude was a maniac, some of those paintings we love were painted realy fast like an overnight thing, one siting and he got a masterpiece done. Great job, guys. One of the best episodes for sure.
super siiick episode! capo is legendary and I miss the days when there were less artists and people stood out more for being unique and having a recognizable style. I still have stacks of tattoo mags and tattoo books and that is something irreplaceable to me. I'm basically close to jon's age, but feel weird abt being in the middle of two wildy different generations of tattooers. seeing the current state of the industry, it really makes me miss what actually turned me on to this form of art. thankfully a lot of the names I learned early on and whose work I valued are still relevant to some of us. I feel the respect and accolades that used to mean something have been replaced by smart-ass quips in comment sections, and everybody's "expertise" in any given subject. anyway, I could rant abt this shit forever. great podcast!!
Joe C was a huge influence on me in 90s too. Cool to hear this talk.
Personally it always sets off an alarm in my head to hear tattooing called an industry. I don't think it ever has been an industry, it has always been a lifestyle craft. I thinks its an important distinction, and normalizing all the behavior of parties who are TRYING to industrialize and exploit tattooing by calling it an industry. So when y'all switched from "the industry" to "the trade" during the conversation I was happy to hear it.
Best podcast around!!!!!
awesome episode s-rank
I’m not an artist, just a tattoo enthusiast with a lot of ink who loves to learn about tattoo history and what the industry is like. From a client’s perspective I think your take are spot on. I don’t think getting an apprenticeship is the end-all be-all to become and artist but I think it IS such a vital step in the process. Because you should presumably be apprenticing over someone who will teach you all the stuff you can’t just learn from watching a YT video. You’re getting that personal hands on life experience. But also? It teaches you that being a tattoo artist is fucking work. It’s not just doing tattoos and making money, it’s cleaning and paying bills and learning how to talk to clients (and keep clients) and all that unglamorous stuff.
Regarding criticism, why would anyone respect an artist (in any medium, not just tattoos) who didn’t want critique and didn’t want to push themselves to get better? Yeah obviously someone can be an asshole and just shit on work without merit, but if it’s well-intentioned genuine critique then it should be embraced. Because otherwise what is the point? I’ve have work from artists who I got years ago and it’s cool to see how far they’ve come and how much they’ve improved. I love the tattoos I have but I also love knowing that they are that much better. In a way it gives me pride to know I was a part of their journey as an artist (even if was just a tiny part).
Also, I would never go to an artist who didn’t post healed work. Or one who didn’t know how to have a conversation about the design and why they made the changes they did. I absolutely have faith in the artists, but I want to hear why they did something, because then I know they actually know what they’re talking about. Not saying we have to argue (and I wouldn’t want to), more like we can have a discussion about what works and what doesn’t.
Anyway I’m like only 15 minutes into this episode but I had to comment. 😂
at the 2:45 mark, barely starting, haha! let's fucking hear this! you guys are all so well spoken. alright, back to business...cheers!
Yo! That alien cyborg at 57:00 is my tattoo! Its about 3 years healed at this point, looks great still. Kinda crazy to see on here. Im a tattoo collector from WA and got work from alot of great artist, Michael Kelly, Josh Payne, Chris Primm, James Tex etc
Great Episode had me glued to the screen as always 👍🏽👊🏽‼️
thanks for this episode can wait to hear more. I just started tattooing 5 years ago and have lots to learn.
This episode is flames 🔥🔥🔥
love this podcast! i'm 22, been tattooing 2 years now and my dads been tattooing since before i was born so im definitely a newer artist but i was raised in a shop so i can see both sides of the coin right
Love Joe.
This was brilliant!
Pure fire
🔥🔥🔥
Joe bring back inked nation dawg 😂😂😂
the pain is real.... :D Joe Capobianco
First guy speaking and Joe both have some hilarious looking hair
Oliver Peck doing black face was funny? Hmm 🤔
Yeah that was really strange to hear, also, I never understood why white people need to voice how another white person doing black face doesn’t offend them personally, like….of course it doesn’t offend you, cus that sort of hate isn’t targeted towards you or people that look like you. So ignorant 🤦🏽♂️
People need to stop being so soft. Have you ever seen “White Chicks” blacks painted white, who tf cares.
Yeah that’s weird, came straight to the comment section…What’s crazy is during an Instagram live… I wrote that he looks racist 😅 and screenshot his reaction
"Bitter and OId" would be a more fitting title.
Tattooing needs more gatekeeping.
its dolphinately something to chew on.
the rant against HD tvs was hilarious and a little cringey. it looks like video because you need to adjust your factory tv settings old man! lmao sheesh
Haha yeah I have to show it to you on my phone , it only shows the sparkles on my phone haha