Had a discussion with a goalie coach about this. He said they tell their pro goalies, "No good coach is ever going to yell at you for not stopping the back door goal. He's not your guy. The shooter is." We do two things when we challenge that shooter and let the D take the back. First, we remove the shot and make him one-dimensional. The forward's highest percentage play is pass only because his potential to beat us is significantly lower, if not eliminated. We can play a one-dimensional situation much more easily, and so can our D. The second thing we do is put the onus on the D to lock up the back door, whether they understand it instantly or not. Eventually, they get that that is their defensive responsibility and not ours. I'm a terrible goalie, and just this license to come out and be more aggressive got me a win in a game I was way over my head in. Fortunately, the D I was playing with was playing some lights-out hockey, so I only had to face out the first shot, and they took care of the rest. I think I had two or three multishot sequences over the whole game.
I'm way newer and less skilled than you are, but I had a chance to play above my pay grade recently, and this rings really true. Let in 28 goals in 60 min in 3-on-3, but it gave me a lot to talk to my goalie coach about later that week!
With two on ones or even two on nones, I try to bait the players into making the move I want them to make. I'll over commit to the shooter but have my stick ready to block the pass, or I'll turn a little more away in preparation for a push off but be prepared to RVH or VH.
Love this video and couldn't agree more with the sentiment about playing with elite players. A lot of great saves in here. One thing that will help with some of the 5 hole goals as well is working on your stick discipline. 4:58 is a great example of where your stick was way off to the side as you slid over. I think you're right that pulling in your push leg is the #1 issue, but keeping your stick there will help cover you if you're not perfect
My experience with games like that, you know your going to let in a ton of goals off the bat, so you mentally prepare for that. Everything wants to be the elite scorer, but not the elite defender. So the odds are against you. My biggest challenge is following the puck. When they can dangle that quick and fire of a shot just as quickly, forehand or backhand, it’s easy to lose sight of. Then you just hope it hits you. I honestly don’t know a good way to defend against it.
Love your videos and i learned quit a bit from watching them. But here is one tips for you, keep your stick in front of your five hole when sliding across the goal farm. I think you let in a couple of pucks there.
Its funny that you say that. In the league that I play in, (a lower level league), I can really cheat the passes and plays they try to make in front of the net. Im also able to read them much easier than higher level players. I usually play pick up with higher level guys, which makes league play pretty easy for me. My current GAA is 1.667 overall in this league. Anyways, keep up the great videos. I always enjoy your content.
Great saves buddy. I like how you never give up and end up making some A+ desperation saves with the paddle of your stick. Doesn't it drive you nuts though trying to play without the net anchored at least a little bit?
Think you were extremely hard on yourself there Sam. 1) some out of this world saves. 2) some solid, consistent, positional saves. There were some poor goals - but I use the term poor quite loosely because I’m calling goals poor which were first shots, no rebounds and no deflections and no odd man rush , back door passes. I reality not every one of those were save-able. There were some very quick and accurate shots. What’s also hard is that these skilled guys had basically unlimited time to pick their spots because no one was defending. It was a bit like an all star game really. You’re being patient, being patient, holding your position then they’ve let their shot go and it’s in the top corner. That’s not a real game scenario. Given the environment and the situation, I thought you played very well.
I play a lunch time pickup game on Fridays and we get some very skilled player considering. Ex pros, college players, and just some real hi skill guys. (We also get guys who can barely skate). I have been doing it just over a year now and it has drastically improved my game.
One thing comes to my mind too; try to get out a bit sooner, so when you play faster players you dont get out skated if you know what I mean. I see you push out when the player is already at a possible shooting position, far, but still. 🤟
I just finished my last game of the season and I'm done forever now :( I can't afford to play goalie anymore it sucks but I don't have gear anymore so there's nothing I can do
Had a discussion with a goalie coach about this. He said they tell their pro goalies, "No good coach is ever going to yell at you for not stopping the back door goal. He's not your guy. The shooter is." We do two things when we challenge that shooter and let the D take the back. First, we remove the shot and make him one-dimensional. The forward's highest percentage play is pass only because his potential to beat us is significantly lower, if not eliminated. We can play a one-dimensional situation much more easily, and so can our D. The second thing we do is put the onus on the D to lock up the back door, whether they understand it instantly or not. Eventually, they get that that is their defensive responsibility and not ours. I'm a terrible goalie, and just this license to come out and be more aggressive got me a win in a game I was way over my head in. Fortunately, the D I was playing with was playing some lights-out hockey, so I only had to face out the first shot, and they took care of the rest. I think I had two or three multishot sequences over the whole game.
The struggle of 3 on 3 players have all the time in the world . Good work Sammy and nice paddle saves
I'm way newer and less skilled than you are, but I had a chance to play above my pay grade recently, and this rings really true. Let in 28 goals in 60 min in 3-on-3, but it gave me a lot to talk to my goalie coach about later that week!
Not everyday do you see a Pbruins jersey.
But playing with much higher skill players definitely highlight how important covering short side is.
3 on 3 on a full sheet of ice is rough too lol those guys must have been gassed at the end of it
With two on ones or even two on nones, I try to bait the players into making the move I want them to make. I'll over commit to the shooter but have my stick ready to block the pass, or I'll turn a little more away in preparation for a push off but be prepared to RVH or VH.
Its the small things that shooters don't realize you are doing, that help to even the opportunity in our favour. Excellent point.
@@gprime7210 Its kind of poker goaltending, in a way. It works a good bit, but being better at the position in general would probably be better. :)
I agree 100 percent positioning with a little mental warfare.
Love this video and couldn't agree more with the sentiment about playing with elite players. A lot of great saves in here. One thing that will help with some of the 5 hole goals as well is working on your stick discipline. 4:58 is a great example of where your stick was way off to the side as you slid over. I think you're right that pulling in your push leg is the #1 issue, but keeping your stick there will help cover you if you're not perfect
My experience with games like that, you know your going to let in a ton of goals off the bat, so you mentally prepare for that. Everything wants to be the elite scorer, but not the elite defender. So the odds are against you.
My biggest challenge is following the puck. When they can dangle that quick and fire of a shot just as quickly, forehand or backhand, it’s easy to lose sight of. Then you just hope it hits you. I honestly don’t know a good way to defend against it.
Got the chance to play against an ECHL player the other day and like you said, it really helped show me what parts of my game needs work.
Good work out there! This reminds me of the pick-up hockey i play. Lots of shots from skilled players and no one working defense!!!
Love your videos and i learned quit a bit from watching them. But here is one tips for you, keep your stick in front of your five hole when sliding across the goal farm. I think you let in a couple of pucks there.
Its funny that you say that. In the league that I play in, (a lower level league), I can really cheat the passes and plays they try to make in front of the net. Im also able to read them much easier than higher level players. I usually play pick up with higher level guys, which makes league play pretty easy for me. My current GAA is 1.667 overall in this league. Anyways, keep up the great videos. I always enjoy your content.
Solid 3 tips!
Great saves buddy. I like how you never give up and end up making some A+ desperation saves with the paddle of your stick. Doesn't it drive you nuts though trying to play without the net anchored at least a little bit?
Fantastic tips! I always learn so much from watching your videos. Thank you for sharing them!
Think you were extremely hard on yourself there Sam.
1) some out of this world saves.
2) some solid, consistent, positional saves.
There were some poor goals - but I use the term poor quite loosely because I’m calling goals poor which were first shots, no rebounds and no deflections and no odd man rush , back door passes. I reality not every one of those were save-able.
There were some very quick and accurate shots.
What’s also hard is that these skilled guys had basically unlimited time to pick their spots because no one was defending. It was a bit like an all star game really. You’re being patient, being patient, holding your position then they’ve let their shot go and it’s in the top corner. That’s not a real game scenario.
Given the environment and the situation, I thought you played very well.
Great videos! Keep up the great work!
I play a lunch time pickup game on Fridays and we get some very skilled player considering. Ex pros, college players, and just some real hi skill guys. (We also get guys who can barely skate). I have been doing it just over a year now and it has drastically improved my game.
Love the video. Keep it up!
As being the 100th like I feel like that save was meant for me😂
Actually saw you playing last Friday @ Scotiabank Pond
3 on 3 is a crazy workout, I'd be exhausted after that! What's your all black stick?!?
Keep playig with them
One thing comes to my mind too; try to get out a bit sooner, so when you play faster players you dont get out skated if you know what I mean. I see you push out when the player is already at a possible shooting position, far, but still. 🤟
You played amazing hold your head up after that "game".
Seemed like a very fast paced game too
damn...you just listed like most of my mistakes. 😅
I just finished my last game of the season and I'm done forever now :(
I can't afford to play goalie anymore it sucks but I don't have gear anymore so there's nothing I can do
Now i know why i get scored on so much. 3-3 i needs a 5-5 game
Those were the worst pegs of all time. Must have been so frustrating with that net
I play with a guy that can beat me at will. I now just talk trash to hm as he comes down so that I get something ou of it. It can only make us better.
Hey what kind have wax do you recommend for sliding better
Have you thought about getting a glove with a different break or smth? Cause you can't keep it in there for life
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Yo word up its yo boy mcnally from mcnallys crease just got the dub lastnight got a big tourney this mouth and remembered to keep da stix on da ice