This is What i have been talking to my goalies about all year long. Read the play, stay at top of the crease, shortest way to the shooter. Ive also let them play around with No crease so they get a fel for the movement to be on the spot. Super good clip 👍👍
My favorite video so far! I started playing as an adult self taught beer league keeper and still struggle with the lingo. The demonstrations with the dolls was actually REALLY helpful!
Thanks Steve, Watching this on my way to a 16u AA tryout. I made bantam A as a first year last year and I’ve started skating only 2 years ago. These tips have helped me out alot.
Outstanding content. I took Den to two separate goalie coaches that pushed the arc or the loop or whatever you wanna call it. One goalie coach actually got so angry that den wasn't doing it how dare he question why he wanted him to do it that way. I wasn't allowed in to watch the lesson, but after hearing about what happened I just cancelled the rest of the sessions.
If there isn’t biomechanical and tactical/ technical proof of concept then it is fairy dust: 99% of people parroting stuff like that have never played for a living but apparently stayed at Holdiay Inn
Question about scenario 1: If we were shuffling laterally to track a shooter, would you recommend lagging behind a bit so as so never show them the far side? That sounds wrong to me but it would mean the never get to shoot at 1 side so you know where they have to shoot. And it means the shot will never be against the grain of your movement, which were the two reasons you gave for the angle selection in that first example. Thank you for the thought provoking video.
Just found your channel. It’s awesome. My son is a goalie 10y and we watch some of your vids so he gets a better grasp on how to play in the net so it’s even more fun!
Great video - I personally have always preferred an aggressive/more athletic style and this direct approach to movement was always complimentary to it. Something must've changed in the past 10 years or so - I'm almost 30 and was always taught straight lines as a teenager, this loop concept is new to me. Maybe it is intended for blocking butterfly style but that doesn't resonate with me, i will challenge and focus on angles as long as i am able!
Have faith in Jesus He is there for you and will heal you and your family. Stray away from all immoral evil sins and turn to Christ before it is to late. I say this out of the love of my heart remember this and Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, The son of God, He died on the cross for our sins and He gives us eternal life.❤️✝️Do great things through Jesus Christ.❤️✝️
Have faith in Jesus He is there for you and will heal you and your family. Stray away from all immoral evil sins and turn to Christ before it is to late. I say this out of the love of my heart remember this and Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, The son of God, He died on the cross for our sins and He gives us eternal life.❤️✝️Do great things through Jesus Christ.❤️✝️
Your depth varies when you factor in your height and the actual game situation. If a player is pinched off and has to shoot you can grab some more depth. Play a depth you are comfortable with and then adjust here and there. If you are getting beat with clean shots you may need another bit of depth. If they are get goals by passing pucks around you, step back a little. It is a very personal decision based on the situation and your attributes.
I'm one of those heavier, older guys you mention is one of your other videos (but i'm alot faster than you'd expect). Your videos have helped me be a better goalie in a short time. I'm also a teacher and appreciate the fact your lessons are direct and to the point. Love the visual aids, as i am a visual learner. You should have been a math teacher also. keep it coming!
The only math I ever taught was when I covered a Mat Leave for second graders. Teaching “regrouping” when I was trained as INT/SENIOR PE and History teacher was a challenge
If you are a teacher you should know that there is no such thing as a visual learner. All humans benefit from multi modal learning. And if you are thinking about citing Gardner and his multiple intelligences, please go look at the research. His ideas were demonstrated to be false over a decade ago. But you are right this was a great video and I'm glad it helped.
@@Kvothe3 You Must be a supporter of common core learning. Gardner’s theory of multiple intelligences is an accurate assessment as well as the bell curve and all of the educational theory taught in years past. My point is that when learning how to play like a modern goalie, I have tried to read and apply newer concepts, to no avail. His videos were straight and to the point, which to me is the sign of a good teacher. If you feel that everyone is gifted in the same areas and all can excel, I advise you to stop drinking the kool aid.
@@johnmmendolia2191 I'm glad this video helped, good luck in the net. Professionally if you are not going to look at the actual research in education, please stop offering your opinion as fact, people might believe you based on your job title.
@@Kvothe3 sorry you feel that way, 26 years of teaching tells me more than some troll on a hockey comment thread. Keep yourself unsolicited opinions to yourself sir and it madam.
Thumbs up just for the beginning of this video!!! hahaha The Vette should have totally worked on the Hooters girl. Boys don't grow up, their toys just get more expensive. You should have left Mr. Bower the'53 Vette so he could get to the top of the crease faster!!! The format of this video is great!! Really makes it so simple to understand. Like you said...it's not rocket appliances. lol
Hey Steve I found when I took straight lines it made it so my momentum kept going and it was a lot harder to stop when I did the curve my t push was a lot more controlled and I was able to get on angle better
That is why you need edge control. It is simple to stop your momentum. Anyone can do it. For instance the curved path BS has only be recently rearing it’s ugly head and yet the top 5 goalies in History for wins ALL moved in straight lines. If you can’t stop your momentum after a straight t push consistently you won’t be playing this game at a high level. Fix it and the world is your oyster
Woah! Wait a minute! I thought this was called “ what Goalies do in their downtime”! 🤣 Another great one goat! Doing ‘less’ is more! I keep forgetting that when getting lit up in the crease 👍😎
I see Ovechkin score so many goals from his office because the goalies always slide to hug the post on his shots instead of sliding out to the proper depth.
It takes a split second longer, but look how much more net you cover when you take the middle. When you just slide straight you may get there quicker but once you’re there your not in the optimal position to be square and see the puck in front of you. Patience is key. When I take the split second to pivot and and track, then push, I make more saves than if I just slide. Of course, there’s situations where there is just no time to pivot. But, I think it’s wise to learn and then be able to choose. The “shortest distance from point a to b” doesn’t tell the whole story in this case IMO
My opinion is there are two small issues with the direct path from point A to B on the edge of the crease. One is that the path to the needed angle is actually longer and the second that the goalie will not be set square to the shot when arriving to point B. It's however true that when taking the path through the crease, you will arrive at the desired angle deeper in the net. So it's more or less deciding on priorities on angle-squareness-depth, which should be adapted to the goalies quality, skating ability, size,... like you mentioned.
Actually you simply simultaneously rotate about your Sagittal axis as you move in a straight line arriving at you target with angle, depth and squareness. Try it. It is simple a small rotation is needed as you move in the starlight line. If you try the arc crap a MUCH LARGER SEGMENTED ROTATION is required.
Just a question. If the sniper is close to the goalie, if you slide accross to have the proper depth, isn't it dangerous to have him wrap around the goalie and go backdoor? But I understand and agree with your strategy if the shooter is far enough.
Thank you for the very good tips! One thing I dont understand is why are goalies nowadays taught to slide or skate in a curve from point A to point B? I mean what's the point of it and why is it theoretically better than just going in a straight line?
Sorry to drop a second note, but this whiteboard work (with Bower) is FANTASTIC!! It's so good you may end up crossing the line to paid content territory....
Hey Keeks, I wanted to comment and ask for your personal opinion on this one. At the moment i’m a 4th year goalie at 15 years old and i’ve never played at a high level such as AAA however players told me I should. What do you think is the best call for me so that I can get my name out there?
Try out at the highest possible available lesson and learn lessons on the process and what others do at that level. And just be mindful you want to develop your game so you can play junior by 17ish
im 38 and played hockey my entire life. seriously my dad had me on skates with a helmet and chair before I could walk on my own lol, but I started to play goalie 2 yrs ago. Best choice I ever made but I find I am staying deeper in my net to give myself that extra .5 second to see the puck and make the save. I do get burned on harder shooters but I feel when i am at the top of the blue or even half a skate over and the shot is coming from top of circle or hash marks, I cant see the puck and i am like guessing where its going (reading the stick is getting better a bit) I have good vision but man is it ever hard to see and track the puck when you never done it before lol
How can I break in my new ccm glove eflex 5 580 break . It’s a pro palm with d30. I want to deepen the double t pocket and close it without forcing it before season starts . Also to open it as wide as I can . What can I do to without damaging the glove to break it in. What is the first step I should approach to stretch the skate lace double t pocket?
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA I was wondering if you could do one more video from new not broken in and new after broken in . And how long overnight to break in . I hope it’s not too much to ask . Would really appreciate it thanks . I’m nervous to destroy my glove if I do a wrong step . Would you have time to do a quick video and send it to me?
Keeks, is this for real? Are goalies really being taught to take that curved path? That just doesn't make much sense. Thanks for the sound fundamentals, GOAT.
Nope..90% of what I teach my students is reading the play, understanding cause and effect etc. And… I always loved the goalies you listed. In fact, Grant Fuhr is my idol. However Richard, statistically goalies in todays game have far superior save percentages and stats to those goalies you mentioned. I played in that generation and coached Hall of Famer Ed Belfour, so you can trust that I understand the importance of rising above pure cookie cutter technical goaltending. I call them driving range goalies that can only look good at private lessons and practices but shit the bed in games. Amateur and young goalie coaches often can only teach technical stuff that they see online and don’t have the experience or discernment to teach pro level cognitive goalies.
She is the youngest of our three kids and mother to my first Grandchild Charlotte….😎 she was not sagittal axis conception… she was a corvette luggage rack axis creation…😎
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA That would be known as the supine plane, working a traverse muscle in the sagittal direction. It’s a great way to work on the butterfly slide.
Great job with the visuals. I don't know why, but the dolls made more sense. Thank you!
Thank you
This is What i have been talking to my goalies about all year long. Read the play, stay at top of the crease, shortest way to the shooter.
Ive also let them play around with No crease so they get a fel for the movement to be on the spot.
Super good clip 👍👍
My favorite video so far! I started playing as an adult self taught beer league keeper and still struggle with the lingo. The demonstrations with the dolls was actually REALLY helpful!
Thanks Alex…… my wife says I play with myself too much… I mean play with my toys too much….🤪
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA ACTION FIGURES!!
Great video. Loved the new props. Really shows how important it is to keep things simple.
Thanks Kevin
Great presentation Professor Keeks .
Thank you Michael
Great intro very descriptive gave me a good idea of what I was gonna learn in this video 😂
So what did you learn in the video?
Thanks Steve, Watching this on my way to a 16u AA tryout. I made bantam A as a first year last year and I’ve started skating only 2 years ago. These tips have helped me out alot.
Good luck Ry
Outstanding content. I took Den to two separate goalie coaches that pushed the arc or the loop or whatever you wanna call it. One goalie coach actually got so angry that den wasn't doing it how dare he question why he wanted him to do it that way. I wasn't allowed in to watch the lesson, but after hearing about what happened I just cancelled the rest of the sessions.
If there isn’t biomechanical and tactical/ technical proof of concept then it is fairy dust: 99% of people parroting stuff like that have never played for a living but apparently stayed at Holdiay Inn
thanks so much for the tips i made the U18 AAA team started practice yesterday this helped a lot
Congrats Sevas!
Thanks Steve, I’m grinding so I can maybe make the AA bantom team as a first year
Grind with intelligence on areas if your game that need fixing
111111111111111111111111111111111
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA I made AA
@@bendytendy356 congrats kid! Proud of you
Thanks for this. I would like to see more of your positioning videos using the props like this. I found it very helpful so thank you.
Thank you!
Question about scenario 1:
If we were shuffling laterally to track a shooter, would you recommend lagging behind a bit so as so never show them the far side?
That sounds wrong to me but it would mean the never get to shoot at 1 side so you know where they have to shoot. And it means the shot will never be against the grain of your movement, which were the two reasons you gave for the angle selection in that first example.
Thank you for the thought provoking video.
lagging behind slightly is correct
Great information. Looks like Johnny got a workout!
My wife has her toys and I have mine…😎
Great scenario based explanations!
The is Jory
Just found your channel. It’s awesome. My son is a goalie 10y and we watch some of your vids so he gets a better grasp on how to play in the net so it’s even more fun!
Thanks Jonathan
Thank u steve. Working from getting cut from midget aaa as a first year to getting on an opposing team to beat them
Good luck and let me know how you do!
Great video - I personally have always preferred an aggressive/more athletic style and this direct approach to movement was always complimentary to it. Something must've changed in the past 10 years or so - I'm almost 30 and was always taught straight lines as a teenager, this loop concept is new to me. Maybe it is intended for blocking butterfly style but that doesn't resonate with me, i will challenge and focus on angles as long as i am able!
Smart.
Have faith in Jesus He is there for you and will heal you and your family. Stray away from all immoral evil sins and turn to Christ before it is to late. I say this out of the love of my heart remember this and Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, The son of God, He died on the cross for our sins and He gives us eternal life.❤️✝️Do great things through Jesus Christ.❤️✝️
Have faith in Jesus He is there for you and will heal you and your family. Stray away from all immoral evil sins and turn to Christ before it is to late. I say this out of the love of my heart remember this and Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, The son of God, He died on the cross for our sins and He gives us eternal life.❤️✝️Do great things through Jesus Christ.❤️✝️
Hmm, what about short goalies? I am wondering am I over challenging being beyond the arc of the crease? I seem to have much better success there.
Your depth varies when you factor in your height and the actual game situation. If a player is pinched off and has to shoot you can grab some more depth. Play a depth you are comfortable with and then adjust here and there. If you are getting beat with clean shots you may need another bit of depth. If they are get goals by passing pucks around you, step back a little. It is a very personal decision based on the situation and your attributes.
I'm one of those heavier, older guys you mention is one of your other videos (but i'm alot faster than you'd expect). Your videos have helped me be a better goalie in a short time. I'm also a teacher and appreciate the fact your lessons are direct and to the point. Love the visual aids, as i am a visual learner. You should have been a math teacher also. keep it coming!
The only math I ever taught was when I covered a Mat Leave for second graders. Teaching “regrouping” when I was trained as INT/SENIOR PE and History teacher was a challenge
If you are a teacher you should know that there is no such thing as a visual learner. All humans benefit from multi modal learning. And if you are thinking about citing Gardner and his multiple intelligences, please go look at the research. His ideas were demonstrated to be false over a decade ago.
But you are right this was a great video and I'm glad it helped.
@@Kvothe3 You
Must be a supporter of common core learning. Gardner’s theory of multiple intelligences is an accurate assessment as well as the bell curve and all of the educational theory taught in years past. My point is that when learning how to play like a modern goalie, I have tried to read and apply newer concepts, to no avail. His videos were straight and to the point, which to me is the sign of a good teacher. If you feel that everyone is gifted in the same areas and all can excel, I advise you to stop drinking the kool aid.
@@johnmmendolia2191
I'm glad this video helped, good luck in the net.
Professionally if you are not going to look at the actual research in education, please stop offering your opinion as fact, people might believe you based on your job title.
@@Kvothe3 sorry you feel that way, 26 years of teaching tells me more than some troll on a hockey comment thread. Keep yourself unsolicited opinions to yourself sir and it madam.
Thumbs up just for the beginning of this video!!! hahaha The Vette should have totally worked on the Hooters girl. Boys don't grow up, their toys just get more expensive. You should have left Mr. Bower the'53 Vette so he could get to the top of the crease faster!!! The format of this video is great!! Really makes it so simple to understand. Like you said...it's not rocket appliances. lol
Sometimes things are being taught without critical thinking. You really have to boil it down to simple facts.
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA You did that!! But honestly the use of Johnny Bower and a net and the fact that it is 3D makes it much simpler to visualize.
Keek's - Steve and I are coming to darken your doorstep this July for either a camp or semi private. Whichever is allowed.
@@stackthepadsgoaltending We'll document the journey of the 54 year old goalie that wants to become a #1 senior goalie.
@@mtlgoalie62 not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need.
Hey Steve I found when I took straight lines it made it so my momentum kept going and it was a lot harder to stop when I did the curve my t push was a lot more controlled and I was able to get on angle better
That is why you need edge control. It is simple to stop your momentum. Anyone can do it. For instance the curved path BS has only be recently rearing it’s ugly head and yet the top 5 goalies in History for wins ALL moved in straight lines. If you can’t stop your momentum after a straight t push consistently you won’t be playing this game at a high level. Fix it and the world is your oyster
Thanks for great tip Steve. I will be using this in my game for sure.
Let us know how it works out
Woah! Wait a minute! I thought this was called “ what Goalies do in their downtime”! 🤣 Another great one goat! Doing ‘less’ is more! I keep forgetting that when getting lit up in the crease 👍😎
Thank you sir
I see Ovechkin score so many goals from his office because the goalies always slide to hug the post on his shots instead of sliding out to the proper depth.
Proper depth would never be the final answer on that dude but would certainly increase the odds of success dramatically
It takes a split second longer, but look how much more net you cover when you take the middle. When you just slide straight you may get there quicker but once you’re there your not in the optimal position to be square and see the puck in front of you. Patience is key. When I take the split second to pivot and and track, then push, I make more saves than if I just slide. Of course, there’s situations where there is just no time to pivot. But, I think it’s wise to learn and then be able to choose. The “shortest distance from point a to b” doesn’t tell the whole story in this case IMO
Thanks for chiming in
1. 0:50 (short side)
2. 3:19 (pass - shot in front of net)
3. 5:30 (pass - shot backdoor)
9:08 Example for dumbies with "Johny Bauer"..
Thank you
The Intro! 😂 Classic!
The stuff that didn’t make the cut was actually funny…….. a tad non PC…..
This was one of our best videos so far. Makes total sense to go straight line.
@@tonyiozzo7111 glad it helped
My opinion is there are two small issues with the direct path from point A to B on the edge of the crease. One is that the path to the needed angle is actually longer and the second that the goalie will not be set square to the shot when arriving to point B. It's however true that when taking the path through the crease, you will arrive at the desired angle deeper in the net. So it's more or less deciding on priorities on angle-squareness-depth, which should be adapted to the goalies quality, skating ability, size,... like you mentioned.
Teaching the curved path puts the average goalie in a career arc as well that ends up in the beer leagues, which isn’t really a bad thing
Thanks for watching by the way
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA wow
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA you're welcome, I find a lot of them useful. Some even offer a different perspective to things I believe in :)
Actually you simply simultaneously rotate about your Sagittal axis as you move in a straight line arriving at you target with angle, depth and squareness. Try it. It is simple a small rotation is needed as you move in the starlight line. If you try the arc crap a MUCH LARGER SEGMENTED ROTATION is required.
Just a question. If the sniper is close to the goalie, if you slide accross to have the proper depth, isn't it dangerous to have him wrap around the goalie and go backdoor? But I understand and agree with your strategy if the shooter is far enough.
Can you email a sketch of the situation to me? I can then get a better idea of your thoughts
“This isn’t rocket appliances.” Classic!!
Ricky!
Thank you for the very good tips! One thing I dont understand is why are goalies nowadays taught to slide or skate in a curve from point A to point B? I mean what's the point of it and why is it theoretically better than just going in a straight line?
It makes no sense to me either so I stress simple straight line movement
Sorry to drop a second note, but this whiteboard work (with Bower) is FANTASTIC!! It's so good you may end up crossing the line to paid content territory....
Already been monetized for a year….🖖🏻
Hey Keeks, I wanted to comment and ask for your personal opinion on this one. At the moment i’m a 4th year goalie at 15 years old and i’ve never played at a high level such as AAA however players told me I should. What do you think is the best call for me so that I can get my name out there?
Try out at the highest possible available lesson and learn lessons on the process and what others do at that level. And just be mindful you want to develop your game so you can play junior by 17ish
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA Thanks a ton Keeks! I’ll try my best.
Johnny Bower in nets ,love it
The poke check legend, never complained once during the shoot.
@Curtis Collard one of the nicest men I met when I worked for the Leafs. Everyone’s grandfather…
I need to get a miniature setup like that! lol 😂
Yes sir
im 38 and played hockey my entire life. seriously my dad had me on skates with a helmet and chair before I could walk on my own lol, but I started to play goalie 2 yrs ago. Best choice I ever made but I find I am staying deeper in my net to give myself that extra .5 second to see the puck and make the save. I do get burned on harder shooters but I feel when i am at the top of the blue or even half a skate over and the shot is coming from top of circle or hash marks, I cant see the puck and i am like guessing where its going (reading the stick is getting better a bit) I have good vision but man is it ever hard to see and track the puck when you never done it before lol
It will come with time
Well keeks i sure dont want you to have a sagitial axis 7:56 to 8:04 that sound like that one injury with the old nets you talked about awhile back
lol
How can I break in my new ccm glove eflex 5 580 break . It’s a pro palm with d30. I want to deepen the double t pocket and close it without forcing it before season starts . Also to open it as wide as I can . What can I do to without damaging the glove to break it in. What is the first step I should approach to stretch the skate lace double t pocket?
Did you have a chance to look at my glove break in video ?
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA yeah but didn’t understand the steps exactly.
@@barrybinning3849 send me your contact info to info@futurepro.com and I can walk you through the steps
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA I was wondering if you could do one more video from new not broken in and new after broken in . And how long overnight to break in . I hope it’s not too much to ask . Would really appreciate it thanks . I’m nervous to destroy my glove if I do a wrong step . Would you have time to do a quick video and send it to me?
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA I’ve heard about running hot water inside but don’t want to ruin the suregrip material
Keeks, if you are ever up for a Juno Award for best Comedic Actor, Sienna would write you a glowing referral!
Ya, not imaging that ever….
Love the goat shirt😂
Wifey made it
you saying it's not rocket appliances sealed the deal. i'm going to get rid of the arc in my t-push.
✌️
Bower would have pad stacked the hell out of these. 😉
But also, great video. What a perfect way to visualize this for the viewer.
Thank you sir…
Can you tell about hasek's playing style whit 1 word
Legendary
when is the next video Keeks? Long vacation I suppose
Been in prison so as soon as I get out….😎
Is that a DB5 in the intro??? Nothing is cooler than a 007 car in my humble opinion
The are cool cars… for sure but those toys were corvettes
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSAI knew the black one was a vette, the white one was simply an inexcusable mistake on my part
@@treyrees9153 no worries
Keeks, is this for real? Are goalies really being taught to take that curved path? That just doesn't make much sense. Thanks for the sound fundamentals, GOAT.
100% the goofy curved path is taught by “experts” 😎
By the same types of goalie coaches who use phrases like “lateral release” and “head trajectory”…🤪
They may or may not have highly produced content on UA-cam. 😉
He he you dont change 😄
The intro hahahaha
Lame dad material of course
I’m pretty sure even coach dahann would agree with straight line movements curve makes no sense in my opinion anyway
Correct.
Johnny poke check! Who is that girl in the vid? Pam Anderson, Vagittal what? Never were a good spellher.
My daughter. 😜
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA that's what my daughter would think too 🤩
Today we’re only teaching technics & skills. We have lost the Art of Survival. Tretiak Furh Brodeur Hasek Thomas Kiprusoff Fleury …..
Nope..90% of what I teach my students is reading the play, understanding cause and effect etc. And… I always loved the goalies you listed. In fact, Grant Fuhr is my idol. However Richard, statistically goalies in todays game have far superior save percentages and stats to those goalies you mentioned. I played in that generation and coached Hall of Famer Ed Belfour, so you can trust that I understand the importance of rising above pure cookie cutter technical goaltending. I call them driving range goalies that can only look good at private lessons and practices but shit the bed in games. Amateur and young goalie coaches often can only teach technical stuff that they see online and don’t have the experience or discernment to teach pro level cognitive goalies.
If I put a spike through my head and out of my feet, then I would need brain surgery, along with other stuff. Sagittal, word of the day.
My first born was conceived as a result of the sagittal axis….😎
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA same one that asked “What the F are you doing?”
She is the youngest of our three kids and mother to my first Grandchild Charlotte….😎 she was not sagittal axis conception… she was a corvette luggage rack axis creation…😎
@@FutureProGoaltendingUSA That would be known as the supine plane, working a traverse muscle in the sagittal direction. It’s a great way to work on the butterfly slide.
@@OldFogeyGoalie ah a man after my own heart!