VHS vs Hi8 vs Tapeless | Comparison Video

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  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
  • arttheboy.com
    / arttheboy
    Previous Video: • Make VHS cameras TAPEL...
    gonna make tutorial videos more often, let me know what you want me to cover next!!
    I covered some faqs I got from my previous tapeless vhs camera video and show off hi8 tape and direct to vcr recording to give everyone an idea of the differences between these analog video formats

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  • @scott7305
    @scott7305 2 роки тому +15

    How do you only have 300 subscribers?

  • @Snappythesnapster
    @Snappythesnapster 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for responding to my comment. My tapeless setup right now uses a pretty cheap fancy recorder with a screen and its interchangeable with vhs hi8 and basically any camera with an AV output. I just need to get around to making a video explaining it

  • @sevaarutyunov7301
    @sevaarutyunov7301 2 роки тому +5

    Super interesting stuff more tutorials|comparisons on analog video staff would be great 👍
    Thank you

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому +2

      Awesome thanks for the comment!! Work on a few camera and crt videos 📺📺

  • @ReelFilm2016
    @ReelFilm2016 Рік тому +1

    Nice video. Just one thing, I really rate the vidbox. They are really useful for those just starting out. I have been lucky and never experienced any issues with the software. Keep up the good work.

  • @Zachecht
    @Zachecht 3 місяці тому

    Immersion RC is the best for converting tapes imo

  • @AlfredoReyesEsparza
    @AlfredoReyesEsparza 11 місяців тому

    I'm just starting to use this methods, I love the instant vintage quality.

  • @BetacamSP
    @BetacamSP 2 роки тому +4

    You can get a real 60 fps after deinterlacing by yadif2x.
    Later hi8 cameras have very poor small ccd matrix with a small number of pixels, apparently to push users to buy new digital models, although the recorder part itself allows you to record and reproduce a sharp picture recorded on an honest hi8 camera. Therefore, I advise you to use honest hi8 cameras released before year 2000 from advanced brands, such as Sony.

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому

      Oh sick is this the machine learning algorithm things, havent tried deinterlacing methods. as for the hi8 quality images i only have sony and panasonic hi8 and video8 cameras. Is panasonic one of the companies that made lower quality hi8 tape cameras?

    • @BetacamSP
      @BetacamSP 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@arttheboy Doubling deinterlacing is a classic, non-machine learning thing that has been used in flat-panel TVs from the beginning of their production to today, and physically performed on CRT TVs - yes, they provided smooth 60 frames per second. Panasonic didn't make 8mm equipment, only VHS/S-VHS and their smaller variations VHS-C/S-VHS-C. As for Sony, it depends on the model.
      You can capture the EIA Resolution Chart with a camera. For Hi8/S-VHS, the stripes at "400" or more should be visible. CCD resolution in conventional VHS / Video8 distinguish up to a maximum of "300"

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому

      @@BetacamSPthanks for the help really got to find a better method to capture analog signals with deinterlacing any ideas where i should look to next you know your stuff :,)

    • @DRACOFURY
      @DRACOFURY 2 роки тому

      🤔
      Everytime I render It Only Comes OuT As 30fps Instead Of 60Fps
      It's driving Me Nuts

    • @reallymentalpig1173
      @reallymentalpig1173 2 роки тому

      @@arttheboy I have one hi 8 camera made in 1999 that was very high end at the time and it’s much better than most hi8

  • @JonathanCalkins
    @JonathanCalkins 2 роки тому +1

    This is sick. Definitely would like to see more

  • @r4yvenxmusic_official
    @r4yvenxmusic_official 7 місяців тому

    fun fact is the video duration is 9:11 💀💀

  • @ThePigHouseProduction
    @ThePigHouseProduction 2 роки тому +2

    thank you! super helpful video! i got a question though. i don't get audio even I connect the white cable (of my miniDV) to the audio in of the dvr. any thought? thanks a bunch!

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому +1

      For sure, thanks for the question. Try seeing if the audio out of your miniDV camera works (like plug it into a tv). If you are certain the DVR is the problem after doing this test most likely it is a short and you may just need to better insulate the audio wire. Hope this helps!

  • @jonas4394
    @jonas4394 2 роки тому +1

    This video is perfect. I made my Canon XM2 Mini DV Tapeless and everything except for the sound is working. The sound has a lot of interfering noises which sounds like a helicopter.

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому +2

      Hmm interesting, sounds like an interference issue cases by lack of shielding on the audio wire. You can cheaply shield wires with aluminum foil over the rubber insulation and re electrical tape everything. People normally do this for guitars - maybe this would at least reduce the issue. Normally solder joints are super exposed and pickup random signals

    • @jonas4394
      @jonas4394 2 роки тому +1

      @@arttheboy okay this is a good idea I would definitely try this

  • @GamerBiceps
    @GamerBiceps Рік тому

    Sp-404, much respect 🫡

  • @oisinbroadcast6916
    @oisinbroadcast6916 Рік тому

    0:58 how to prank. you, guy made of camcorder n stuff, exposed shield. pull the exposed shield

  • @Graeberwave
    @Graeberwave Рік тому +1

    So if I wanted to download a 1080 p video from youtube, and try to run it through a VHS set up, it would look too sharp? Subscribed by the way, you're doing exactly what I've been wondering about for a while!

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  Рік тому

      I showed an example in a cut-away when i mentioned this. depending on the camera it doesn't look too bad. It just doesn't look authentically old which was what I meant by that. I do see this effect used with DSLR or phone footage it just has a different look than using an old camera

    • @Graeberwave
      @Graeberwave Рік тому +1

      @@arttheboy Got it. I'll take what I can get. The gesture should be obvious then when I try it, which is cool enough. Thanks

    • @Graeberwave
      @Graeberwave Рік тому

      @@arttheboy ...so I'm working on a vhs film, and I am interested in retro recording VHS. Might I be able to send you clips to convert for a fee??

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  Рік тому

      @@Graeberwave send me an email at film at centre 3 dot com and we can discuss (i only do conversions through my day job at the moment)

  • @timnixx5733
    @timnixx5733 2 роки тому +2

    Just getting into all this, looking on what to buy. I can't tell which comparison's are tapeless or not or which is best vs easiest. Which method would you say is best?

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому +3

      I am working on a buying guide video but here’s the quick tip. Whatever you choose, aim for a camera with an AV output because even if the tape mechanism breaks you can convert it into a tape less camera. I actually like the tape less vhs method the best it is the first camera footage I show in the video.

    • @timnixx5733
      @timnixx5733 2 роки тому +1

      @@arttheboy thanks mate appreciate your response

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому

      @@timnixx5733 of course any time :D

  • @Reikowired
    @Reikowired Рік тому

    Interesting because i get it straight from my camera to my pc, no dvr needed

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  Рік тому

      ya you could go that route but dvrs make it so you can take your camera out where ever you want regardless if the tape mechanism is working or broken

  • @kevin._.3337
    @kevin._.3337 2 роки тому +1

    hello so im buying a hi8 handycamera wich it has 8 digital video too idk what all that means but i wanted to know if i can go tapeless on this one too becuase i want to make like skating videos but i need lots of tapes wich are hard to find and very expensive so this option will be better and is it hard to go tapeless on this camcorder??is a sony hi8 and 8 digital camcorder

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому +1

      You can go tapeless as long as the camera has an av output any dvr can record the signal :) the second camera i show is the video8/hi8 option

    • @kevin._.3337
      @kevin._.3337 2 роки тому +1

      @@arttheboy okay thank you smm dude also when im im going tapeless im just messing with the dvr wires and the av wires to the camcorder rigth? cus i dont want to like take a part the whole camcorder cus i feel im gonna fuck it up😭 also i enjoy wavthing your videos dude you deserve more!!

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому +1

      @@kevin._.3337 yep only the wires get connected no need to mess with the camera :) someone asked for a detailed wiring video im working on that now

  • @ishmuratovtv7747
    @ishmuratovtv7747 20 днів тому

    У меня есть камера Samsung

  • @user-su5io3ch9r
    @user-su5io3ch9r 6 місяців тому

    whats the newer rig rail you used?

  • @boygames335
    @boygames335 11 місяців тому

    What is the name of the camera

  • @dreamprophet4499
    @dreamprophet4499 Рік тому

    What kind of Hi8 camera do you have?

  • @Joscraft_05
    @Joscraft_05 Рік тому

    What is the model of that samsung Hi8 camcorder

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  Рік тому

      scm52 but theres a model with a flippable display

  • @matthewrkeefe
    @matthewrkeefe 2 роки тому

    I appreciate that you took the time to make this, however, I could personally benefit from a video slightly less presumptive of background knowledge. It feels like the person who can follow what you're saying doesn't need an instructional video. I have an IQ of 80 and went to public school, so take my remarks with a grain of salt.

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому

      No worries at all, and I agree with you I skimmed over the wiring stuff and I keep getting asked for a more detailed video. Is that what you would like me to cover, wiring I mean?

    • @matthewrkeefe
      @matthewrkeefe 2 роки тому +1

      100%. Not clear what you’re describing re: twisting the sheathing. Maybe it will be obvious when we look at it.

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому

      @@matthewrkeefe gotcha, im gonna make a video where i cut the cables and redo it on cam 😎 (just finished moving itll prob take a week)

    • @s9intvfx
      @s9intvfx Рік тому

      I agree, I have 0 zero experience with wiring or VHS cameras and am struggling to figure out what to do 😂

  • @aaronfitzgerald9109
    @aaronfitzgerald9109 2 роки тому

    That must be NTSC crap, VHS is not normally that shitty looking, not PAL anyway

    • @arttheboy
      @arttheboy  2 роки тому

      Never really seen PAL footage because I live in North America, interested to look into it now. Honestly I think I just used shitty footage. I still like the vcr method better than normal footage tho don’t get me wrong 🙂