Does Baptism replace Circumcision?
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- Here's a great question from Twitter: Do the Lutherans think that Baptism replaces Circumcision?
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Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
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And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
It's amazing that I've heard this argument a million times from Presbyterians, but it only ever started making sense in the Lutheran framework where baptism actually accomplishes something.
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
.
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
A beautiful and thoughtful answer.
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
.
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
The imagery of God wrapping Adam and Eve in the skins of freshly killed animals is excellent, we need to “see” that in order to fully grasp the importance of the moment, thank you.
Excellent video. P. Bryan's answer in a nutshell . 1. Circumcision and the sacrifices are all pointing forward to the sacrifice of Jesus. 2. The old covenant has ceased and God instituted new covenant signs (Baptism and the Lord's Supper). 3. The essence of New Testament is the forgiveness of sins. 4. Baptism and Lord's Supper are new covenant's signs through which the forgiveness of sins is delivered to us, the victory of Jesus is brought to us, now. 5. In Baptism we 're given a new life, our sins are forgiven. Conclusion: There is a parallel connection (Colossians 2, 11-14), but this doesn't mean the one (Baptism) replaces the other (Circumcision). There are different purposes and different contexts, different reasons. The New Covenant is bound to the incarnation of Jesus.
There is such beauty in God’s gradual revelation of redemption through the history recorded in the Bible. The gospel “ball” starts rolling in Genesis 3:15 and picks up momentum and size, rolling to its at the foot of the cross. How blessed we are to live on this side of the cross, able to see how God’s glorious plan has come to fruition. And Jesus will be returning-it won’t be long.
He is risen indeed! Alleluia!
This is awesome :D Gal 3 is what I've been looking at closely with regards with this as well.
Thank you Pastor for the wonderful & informative video.
I would like to point out a few things. Edward W.A. Koehler D.D. in "A Summary of Christian Doctrine (CPH 1939, REVISED 1952) pg. 207 says "In the New Testament Baptism is compared with circumcision (Col. 2: 11-13). As little children were then circumcised, so they should now be baptized."
J.T. Mueller, TH. D. in his Christian Dogmatics (CPH 1934) pg. 497 He says "From Col. 2: 11, 12 we know that Baptism in the New Testament took the place of Circumcision, a Sacrament which was administered on the eighth day. This fact alone argues for pedobaptism....".
Francis Pieper, D.D. says in his Christian Dogmatics Vol.III (CPH 1953 english edition) pg. 277 says "Col 2:11-12 states that Baptism has supplanted the Old Testament Sacrament of Circumcision. It is therefore the means of grace for children."
Blessings to you in Christ Pastor,
Dan
The writer of Hebrews said that the animal sacrifices couldn't deal with the " consciousness of sins"( Heb.10:2). Consciousness of sins is guilt. The sacrifice of animals couldn't remove it ,but the blood of Christ does.
During water baptism the Holy Spirit circumcises our conscience, removing the guilt from past sins, and restoring it to its childlike innocence from wilful sin. This is regeneration which means to restore something to its original state. Our original state was as a childs innocent of wilful sin.
Baptism is the new covenants equivalent of the old covenants cleansing of the temple in preparation for the Spirit of God to inhabit it.
Related question: Under the old covenant why did only the man receive a sign of the covenant, circumcision, not the woman?
What I was thinking. During circumcision whas baptism not practised?
But the Colossians passage mentions the requirement of faith. How does an infant believe?
Christ is risen...should we obey his commands when he walked the earth.....some appear unsure.
Says the Holy Spirit, eat not this, eat not that. But that, which you were not to eat you did. Faith = there is one baptism. Through Christ = the helper = Holy Spirit
I have paused the video so I could write my thoughts before hearing your instruction. Here goes: no, baptism does not replace citcumsi
Commentary on the Epistle
to the Galatians
(1535)
by Martin Luther
Translated by Theodore Graebner
(Grand Rapids, Michigan: Zondervan Publishing House, 1949)
Chapter 5, pp. 194-216
VERSE 6. For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Paul concludes the whole matter with the above statement. "You want to be justified by the Law, by circumcision, and by works. We cannot see it. To be justified by such means would make Christ of no value to us. We would be obliged to perform the whole law. We rather through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness." The Apostle is not satisfied to say "justified by faith." He adds hope to faith.
Holy Writ speaks of hope in two ways: as the object of the emotion, and hope as the emotion itself. In the first chapter of the Epistle to the Colossians we have an instance of its first use: "For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven," i.e., the thing hoped for. In the sense of emotion we quote the passage from the eighth chapter of the Epistle to the Romans: "For we are saved by hope." As Paul uses the term "hope" here in writing to the Galatians, we may take it in either of its two meanings. We may understand Paul to say, "We wait in spirit, through faith, for the righteousness that we hope for, which in due time will be revealed to us." Or we may understand Paul to say: "We wait in Spirit, by faith for righteousness with great hope and desire." True, we are righteous, but our righteousness is not yet revealed; as long as we live here sin stays with us, not to forget the law in our members striving against the law of our mind. When sin rages in our body and we through the Spirit wrestle against it, then we have cause for hope. We are not yet perfectly righteous. Perfect righteousness is still to be attained. Hence we hope for it.
This is sweet comfort for us. And we are to make use of it in comforting the afflicted. We are to say to them: "Brother, you would like to feel God's favor as you feel your sin. But you are asking too much. Your righteousness rests on something much better than feelings. Wait and hope until it will be revealed to you in the Lord's own time. Don't go by your feelings, but go by the doctrine of faith, which pledges Christ to you."
The question occurs to us, What difference is there between faith and hope? We find it difficult to see any difference. Faith and hope are so closely linked that they cannot be separated. Still there is a difference between them.
First, hope and faith differ in regard to their sources. Faith originates in the understanding, while hope rises in the will.
Secondly, they differ in regard to their functions. Faith says what is to be done. Faith teaches, describes, directs. Hope exhorts the mind to be strong and courageous.
Thirdly, they differ in regard to their objectives. Faith concentrates on the truth. Hope looks to the goodness of God.
Fourthly, they differ in sequence. Faith is the beginning of life before tribulation. (Hebrews 11.) Hope comes later and is born of tribulation. (Romans 5.)
Fifthly, they differ in regard to their effects. Faith is a judge. It judges errors. Hope is a soldier. It fights against tribulations, the Cross, despondency, despair, and waits for better things to come in the midst of evil.
Without hope faith cannot endure. On the other hand, hope without faith is blind rashness and arrogance because it lacks knowledge. Before anything else a Christian must have the insight of faith, so that the intellect may know its directions in the day of trouble and the heart may hope for better things. By faith we begin, by hope we continue.
This passage contains excellent doctrine and much comfort. It declares that we are justified not by works, sacrifices, or ceremonies, but by Christ alone. The world may judge certain things to be ever so good; without Christ they are all wrong. Circumcision and the law and good works are carnal. "We," says Paul, "are above such things. We possess Christ by faith and in the midst of our afflictions we hopefully wait for the consummation of our righteousness."
You may say, "The trouble is I don't feel as if I am righteous." You must not feel, but believe. Unless you believe that you are righteous, you do Christ a great wrong, for He has cleansed you by the washing of regeneration, He died for you so that through Him you may obtain righteousness and everlasting life.
VERSE 6. For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but faith which worketh by love.
Faith must of course be sincere. It must be a faith that performs good works through love. If faith lacks love it is not true faith. Thus the Apostle bars the way of hypocrites to the kingdom of Christ on all sides. He declares on the one hand, "In Christ Jesus circumcision availeth nothing," i.e., works avail nothing, but faith alone, and that without any merit whatever, avails before God. On the other hand, the Apostle declares that without fruits faith serves no purpose. To think, "If faith justifies without works, let us work nothing," is to despise the grace of God. Idle faith is not justifying faith. In this terse manner Paul presents the whole life of a Christian. Inwardly it consists in faith towards God, outwardly in love towards our fellow-men.
General comment not of circumcision - the laws. Being of the Abrahamic “traditions,” this Old Testament New Testament balancing act is so hard referencing that the early church prior to the schism were in fact converted Jews. Then there’s again Moses and the 10 commandments. Laws vs traditions.
If you're talking about the schism between the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Church, it is not a fact that all the early church were converted Jews up until that time. All the early church up until Acts chapter 10, were pretty much Jewish, but after that, the church became more and more made up of Gentiles and less of Jews, even though many Jews continued to believe on Christ and became Christians. It's still like that today. Most of the Church consists of Gentile nations, but there are still many Jews coming to faith in Christ. The Scripture says that all who are in Christ are one body in Christ, regardless of their nationality. "For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male or female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise."-Gal.3:27-29.
@@jamestrotter3162 split between “Christianity,” and Judaism. Proud Anglican (Episcopalian) 😊
@@SwissOnZ There may be a "split" between Christianity and Judaism, but there's no split between any and all who are in Christ Jesus according to Gal. 3:27-29, and Ephesians 2:11-20, and Acts 15:8-9.
@@jamestrotter3162”we are all one in Christ Jesus.” Morals and ethics; Moses Moses Moses.
@@SwissOnZ For the Christian there is only one law; the law of love. Love God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself.
If baptism replaced circumcision, the Council at Jerusalem in Acts 15 would have said so. That was precisely the issue there.
"For we say that faith was counted to Abraham as righteousness. How then was it counted to him? Was it before or after he had been circumcised? It was not after but before he was circumcised. He received the sign of circumcision as a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised."- Romans 4:9-11. In the same way we receive the sign of baptism as a seal of the righteousness that we have by faith while still unbaptized.
Abraham received the sign in a unique way as the first to whom it was given, to be sure. Genesis 17 records that it was then to be given to those born into the household at 8 days old, and all those bought/brought in as they were, after. A sign and seal are declarations of that to which they attest, conferring the promise of it to those who receive. And this is IMHO what makes the Lutheran understanding of the sacraments as means of grace so beautiful. Critics both from 'sacraments as ex opere operato rites that infuse grace', as well as those from 'ordinances only as outward observance of inward testimony' almost always mistakenly view this Lutheran understanding from a legalistic perspective. That's my experience, anyway. Lutherans saying that baptism saves, or that the forgiveness of sins comes with eating and drinking the Lord's supper, are falsely charged with adding a requirement to justifying faith or to Christ alone as sole propitiation for sin. They even go so far as to declare this understanding a works theology. Nothing could be further from the truth. There is not a second covenant being presented by water with the word. There is not a second covenant being testified to by word, bread and wine. These signs and seals declare the once and for all triumphant death and resurrection of Him who has conquered death; in, with and under the very personal distribution and declaration of word and elements. It is not a "work" to trust the promise of Christ Himself in the sign and seal of word with water or bread and wine, any more than it is to trust it when proclaimed in preaching, only verbally. They all testify to, bring and seal His eternal victory.
I apologize if I mistakenly assumed an intent of your quote that was not present...but though this insight might be useful regardless. God bless.
Many folks raised in Zwinglian traditions have a really difficult time with baptism because they've been taught that anything physical and outside themselves is a "work" while anything internal, or "felt" is spiritual and of God - this is not scriptural - but it is hard to get over - the key is in "who drives the verbs" - baptism is a work of God for me - if I claim that baptism is my work - then it's a problem
@@voyager7 Don't misunderstand me. Even though Abraham was justified by faith before circumcision, he was still compelled by love, and because of that justification by which righteousness was imputed to him, to obey what ever God said for him to do. In the same way, we, who have been justified by faith in Christ, and by that faith have the righteousness of Christ imputed to us, are not adding anything to that justification by obeying whatever God has said as well. It's because of that imputed righteousness that God gives us through saving faith, that we love God and want to obey Him. In other words, it's faith working through love-Gal. 5:6.
You've read Paul's letter to the Romans - do you remember what God said about baptism in that letter as well as Abraham's faith being reckoned as righteousness?
Here's the thing, Lutherans see baptism and the Lords supper as gifts to us that we receive, not works...nevertheless they are commanded by Christ, and if Christ commands us to do it, it is not a work of the law. These are not difficult to do, far from it. The one doing all the "work" is the pastor, while the recipient is just going up to receive. Nevertheless the Lords supper and baptism are not works, they are given to us to receive freely, all we need to do is reach out our hand and accept it, like any other gift. People act like this is being asked to do hard labor, its very simple, requires no effort.
What are your favourite baptisms.
The baptised by his spirit or of baptism of repentance and water or a dry baptism into his death? Of course let's not forget the baptism of fire.
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This is a “ha, ha”, right?
Jesus told us to be baptized for the remission of sins in the name of Jesus Christ before circumcision was mentioned. Circumcision did not replace baptism and baptism did not replace circumcise.
Only for real "Schmucks".
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
:)
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
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I found this interesting. My question is if baptism isn’t a replacement for circumcision, why do so many theologians (Lutheran, Presbyterian, etc.) use those exact verses to justify infant baptism by saying circumcision was just for baby boys but baptism is for baby boys and girls?
I think those theologians just use a different notion of what the world "replaced" means here. Wolfmueller is right if you take "replacement" here to mean that baptism now serves the same context and purpose of circumcision and argue for an exact parallel between the two.
The Lutheran and Presbyterian theologians arguing for pedobaptism using "replace" in a more general sense: circumcision ceased to serve as the sacrament incorporating the child into the true Israel (now it is merely child abuse) and baptism now fulfills that function on an even deeper level, a kind of "internal circumcision", as Paul would put it.
Why u still talking circumcision in the new covenant?? We have no business with the mosaic system!
Where does the bible say baptism is a gift?
Matthew 21:25 Mere water baptism is a gift from Heaven.
Matthew 28:19 Make disciples by baptizing in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and by teaching.
Mark 1:4 Mere water baptism repentance grants the forgiveness of sins.
Mark 16:16 Baptized believers are saved, unbelievers condemned.
Luke 7:29 Even water baptism is a public declaration that God is righteous.
Luke 7:30 Rejecting even mere water baptism = rejecting God's purpose for you.
John 1:31, 33 John knew beforehand that God would reveal the Christ through baptism.
Acts 2:38 Repentance and water baptism in the name of Jesus = forgiveness and the Spirit.
Acts 2:39-41 3000 bachelors, virgins, wives, husbands, and children of all ages (family festival) *received forgiveness and the Spirit in baptism.* The smallest can't have decided to repent in a mature way, but they were not excluded.
Acts 8 Many early church Bible readers saw a distinction between the Spirit's invisible gift of repentance/forgiveness and the Spirit's visible gift of leadership/ordination. Philip the Evangelist could baptize but not bestow spiritual authority. Only the apostles could do that.
Acts 10:47-48 Baptism in the name of Jesus is water baptism.
Acts 22:16 *Baptism washes away sins.*
Romans 6:3-5 *Water Baptism (which buries) is death to sin, death with Christ, newness of life in Christ, and resurrection with Christ.*
1 Corinthians 1:13 Baptism must not turn into hero worship, cliques, and factionalism.
1 Corinthians 12:13 Baptism is unity in the one Holy Spirit in Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:29 Even heretical baptism declares the resurrection of the dead.
Galatians 3:27-28 Baptism clothes every member of the body of Christ in equality.
Ephesians 3:5 There is one Spirit, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all.
Ephesians 5:26 *Baptism sanctifies the Church because it is the washing of water with the word.*
Colossians 2:11 Water Baptism is the Spiritual circumcision, the circumcision of Christ.
Colossians 2:12 Christ was buried. You were buried with Christ *in water baptism.* God raised Christ from the dead. You believe God raised Christ from the dead. Therefore, God raised you with Christ *in baptism.* This is all *God’s powerful work.*
Hebrews 6:1-2 *Baptism is a basic foundational teaching. You can't say you believe in Jesus while rejecting his basic teachings.*
1 Peter 3:20 Noah was saved by water, not from water. The flood waters washed away much evil.
1 Peter 3:21 Baptism now *saves you!* Baptism is assurance/demand of a good conscience before God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. This verse summarizes all that has been said above.
@@Mygoalwogel so you confirm...the Bible does not say Baptism is a Gift......
Matthew 21:25 doesnt say it is so why are you saying it does?
Now an actual example of Gift is that of eternal life promised to us today.
Rom 6:23
for the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Anyway, first i will deal with the wrongly divided scriptures.
The quotes from mathew mark luke and John are old testament instructions!
Are you aware of this?
@@Mygoalwogel You say "Baptism is a basic foundational teaching. You can't say you believe in Jesus while rejecting his basic teachings."
Really.
Are you saying that you follow Jesus earthly ministry teachings?
Is that your claim?
Literally every verse about baptism.
@@benmizrahi2889 @Ben Mizrahi lol....and that is how you establish doctrine is it mate…?
Sry….thats is a nonsense.
You have the whole bible at your disposal …but…not all of the bible applies as instruction today!
Lol..otherwise you would still be sacrificing animals…
Facts and context please.
1)the Bible does not say Baptism is a Gift....
2) there a different types of baptism.
3)mathew mark luke and john are speaking to the circumcised, those under the old covenant ten commandments, not to us today!
I will let Jesus update you…
Mat 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Well I am a gentile first but as a believer neither jew or Greek but a new creature in Christ not a lost lamb of israel!
This might be too much to take in at once but I wanted to show you that rightly dividing scripture may be an alien concept for you but the bible is not a smorgasbord of proof texts!!
2Ti 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Please stop snipping baby boys! It’s not biblical
Which Baptism??????
We have water Baptism.
We have baptism of Fire.
We have Baptism of the spirit.
There are many different baptisms in the Bible and most of them are dry.
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?” - Romans 6:3
Not a Drop of water required but a Dry Baptism that all who wish to claim salvation today must have!!!!!
There is only one baptism (Ephesians 4:5), the washing of water with the word (Ephesians 5:26)
@@silverwriter6739 lol....that is now mate.....but in the bible there are many!
2 here...Acts 11:16 KJV - Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
3 in one verse here...I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
You do not rightly divide the bible and thus get confused...
@@bop-ya-good,
Correct. Which is all that matters to this discussion.
Was that a self-description?
@@silverwriter6739 woooh now laddie.
You apparently did not read my comment correctly.
I said "There are many different baptisms in the Bible"
This is a fact.
It is you who said "There is only one baptism " which is incorrect.
Now...do you know what rightly dividing scripture actually is?
No water baptism today.
We are not required to be baptised today by Water.
We have a dry baptism!
Rom 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
How does that happen?
Rom 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Not a drop of water required!
No works of baptism required.
In fact it is not of ourselves but by faith alone that we receive the GIFT of life....
Eph 2:8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Its our faith not our dunking that saves.
Rom 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Reject any placing of works by baptism or sabbath laws or from the religious experts as this is anti-Gospel dogma.