Thanks for the feedback! Both skates are a great options. M4 are the Supreme skates, more geared toward a power skater and the 3X are the Vapors, geared towards quickness. If you're close to a store I'd recommend going in and getting your foot scanned, and trying on both skates as it could just come down to person preference.
To give additional feedback (from my student, someone who was assessed at a Pure Hockey location), evidently the Vapor line is for someone with narrower feet. He'd have preferred the Vapor, but the expert at Pure Hockey who put his feet through the assessment bluntly said there was "no way that heel would fit in a Vapor heel box." The alternative, the Supreme M4's showcased in the video, have proven themselves to be a very good fit. My student absolutely loves his skates, and playing in the local leagues in them.
@@roberteugene7295I was told the exact same thing at my local Pure Hockey shop. I tried on both and the Vapor was indeed too narrow even in a Fit 3. The Supremes fit and feel great.
My son didn't scan but tested fit between vapor and m4, he immediately loved m4 and using them well so far lately. Also he's on 5/8, from 7/16 made a significant change. He's 6 yrs old.
My LE MX3's finally gave out on me last week (holder ripped right out of the boot, bought in Feb 2015) and I need new skates asap but I can't spend 1000 dollars again. Would these be a good replacement? I mainly care about weight, height from the ice and fit so would these be comparable to my MX3's? I'm a fast power skater and I play 2-3 games a week in higher level beer league.
If you're looking to stay within a certain budget, these would be a good option. It's a slight downgrade from what you had. The boot won't be as stiff, different liner and tongue but weight, height from the ice and fit would be similar.
A couple of the big differences between the M5 Pro and the M4 is the boot - M5 Pro boot is constructed with 3D Lasted Carbon Curv Composite, while the M4 boot is constructed with 3D Lasted Flex Composite. The liner in the M5 Pro will be upgraded with more comfort and moisture wicking material. The runner that the M5 Pro comes with is the Pulse, while the M4 comes with the LS+. If you're skating 3+ times a week at a high level, the upgrade to the M5 Pro would be worth it, otherwise the M4 is a great skate with some good features and technology.
I just got the M4 and love the fit. Incredibly comfortable. Tried the Matrix and M5 Pro and did not like the fit as much especially the tighter toecap.
If you're skating recreationally, the M3 would be a great option. The M4 may have a little more comfort but either one would work, just depends on how much you're looking to spend.
I’m on the fence berths supreme or the vapors I have never used another skate other than Bauer Getting back into mating after 22 years I was gifted a cheap pair of Bauer s35 They are ok but once I starting playing hockey I really. Feel like I need a better skate So I’m on the fence between supreme or vapor. M3 or x3.7. Vs The m4 or 3x I’d like to say I’m a little But if both power skater and a quick maneuver type of skater
If you're playing hockey more regularly we would definitely recommend a higher model than the S35. Those are great for public skating or pond hockey but won't provide great support and will break down really quickly with a lot of use. If you feel like you are a mix between power and speed it might be good to go to a store to get your foot scanned and try on a Supreme and Vapor skate as it could just come down to what you feel is more comfortable. The higher model skates (M4 and 3X) will allow you to choose your fit and will have better materials and support. If you're playing occasionally the M3 or X3.7 aren't a bad option either.
I have the M4 and the Matrix 2022. Bought the M4 1st and than the local store allowed the Matrix to be sold at Canada's prices for me paying in USD. Its was too good to pass up. To sum it up the Matrix is definitely worth the extra coin if you can get a deal like I did, I paid full msrp for the M4. The Matrix takes comfort to another level and that flex tendon feels so good. Sometimes I don't even want to take off the Matrix. The tongue is more comfortable on the Matrix as its thinner and the padding is better as well. I thought it felt better on my feet than the Mach, which along with the Ultrasonics I also did not like due to comfort issues. I know YMMV but for me the clear standout currently is the Matrix if you can find it near you.
Hi Alex, the Supreme M4 skates are the successor to the 3S skates with a bunch of great upgrades! Both are great skakes, but we would recommend the M4!
We're very grateful to have Lee & Wack on the team, but they're extremely busy (& helpful!) guys, so carving out time for videos can be difficult! Anything in particular you'd like to see?
Digi Composite is a more forgiving boot construction to promote flex within the skate. It provides step in comfort and an easy to use flex profile for the developing player.
Picked these up a few weeks ago, so far so good. For a mid level skate they're one of the most comfortable skates I've ever had.
Hi Todd, glad you're enjoying the skates so far!
Which one would you recommend between the M4 and the vapor 3X ? love the review btw
Thanks for the feedback! Both skates are a great options. M4 are the Supreme skates, more geared toward a power skater and the 3X are the Vapors, geared towards quickness. If you're close to a store I'd recommend going in and getting your foot scanned, and trying on both skates as it could just come down to person preference.
To give additional feedback (from my student, someone who was assessed at a Pure Hockey location), evidently the Vapor line is for someone with narrower feet. He'd have preferred the Vapor, but the expert at Pure Hockey who put his feet through the assessment bluntly said there was "no way that heel would fit in a Vapor heel box." The alternative, the Supreme M4's showcased in the video, have proven themselves to be a very good fit. My student absolutely loves his skates, and playing in the local leagues in them.
@@roberteugene7295I was told the exact same thing at my local Pure Hockey shop. I tried on both and the Vapor was indeed too narrow even in a Fit 3. The Supremes fit and feel great.
Bought em today from pure hockey, coming from Vapors. Hoping these work for my wider feet
Hopefully they do! You can also get your foot scanned at one of our stores to ensure proper size and fit.
@@purehockey that's exactly what I did! 2 skates in so far and I love em!
My son didn't scan but tested fit between vapor and m4, he immediately loved m4 and using them well so far lately. Also he's on 5/8, from 7/16 made a significant change. He's 6 yrs old.
I’ve had the Vapor 3X/Fit 3 for a year and they feel as if they haven’t broken in. I may need to check out these M4’s for a better fit for my feet.
@@BlueShoeMagooone year? How often did you skate? That's a very long time. I have Graf pk4700. Took about 10 public skates to feel it break in.
My LE MX3's finally gave out on me last week (holder ripped right out of the boot, bought in Feb 2015) and I need new skates asap but I can't spend 1000 dollars again. Would these be a good replacement? I mainly care about weight, height from the ice and fit so would these be comparable to my MX3's? I'm a fast power skater and I play 2-3 games a week in higher level beer league.
If you're looking to stay within a certain budget, these would be a good option. It's a slight downgrade from what you had. The boot won't be as stiff, different liner and tongue but weight, height from the ice and fit would be similar.
How much better of a skate is the M5 compared to M4?whatbare the major differences? Is it worth the upgrade?
A couple of the big differences between the M5 Pro and the M4 is the boot - M5 Pro boot is constructed with 3D Lasted Carbon Curv Composite, while the M4 boot is constructed with 3D Lasted Flex Composite. The liner in the M5 Pro will be upgraded with more comfort and moisture wicking material. The runner that the M5 Pro comes with is the Pulse, while the M4 comes with the LS+. If you're skating 3+ times a week at a high level, the upgrade to the M5 Pro would be worth it, otherwise the M4 is a great skate with some good features and technology.
I just got the M4 and love the fit. Incredibly comfortable. Tried the Matrix and M5 Pro and did not like the fit as much especially the tighter toecap.
Which one is better and comfortable for recreational skating? M3 or m4. (If
Money wasnt an issue)
If you're skating recreationally, the M3 would be a great option. The M4 may have a little more comfort but either one would work, just depends on how much you're looking to spend.
I’m on the fence berths supreme or the vapors I have never used another skate other than Bauer Getting back into mating after 22 years I was gifted a cheap pair of Bauer s35 They are ok but once I starting playing hockey I really. Feel like I need a better skate So I’m on the fence between supreme or vapor. M3 or x3.7. Vs The m4 or 3x I’d like to say I’m a little
But if both power skater and a quick maneuver type of skater
If you're playing hockey more regularly we would definitely recommend a higher model than the S35. Those are great for public skating or pond hockey but won't provide great support and will break down really quickly with a lot of use. If you feel like you are a mix between power and speed it might be good to go to a store to get your foot scanned and try on a Supreme and Vapor skate as it could just come down to what you feel is more comfortable. The higher model skates (M4 and 3X) will allow you to choose your fit and will have better materials and support. If you're playing occasionally the M3 or X3.7 aren't a bad option either.
Hi Pure Hockey can you do a video review on the Bauer Matrix 2022 skates. Thank you
Hello! We never carried the Bauer Supreme Matrix skate. These are special edition skates exclusive to certain retailers.
I have the M4 and the Matrix 2022. Bought the M4 1st and than the local store allowed the Matrix to be sold at Canada's prices for me paying in USD. Its was too good to pass up. To sum it up the Matrix is definitely worth the extra coin if you can get a deal like I did, I paid full msrp for the M4. The Matrix takes comfort to another level and that flex tendon feels so good. Sometimes I don't even want to take off the Matrix. The tongue is more comfortable on the Matrix as its thinner and the padding is better as well. I thought it felt better on my feet than the Mach, which along with the Ultrasonics I also did not like due to comfort issues. I know YMMV but for me the clear standout currently is the Matrix if you can find it near you.
When you say strong crossovers do you mean slow and powerful or fast crossover and are the Vapor x4 good for crossovers which would you say is better
Big, full length crossovers, vs short/choppy/hoppy
@@HYP3DSNIP3R just checking you mean the Vapor’s are short choppy hoppy and the supremes are full length?
Supreme skates are more for powerful, full-length strides.
@@purehockey ok thanks a lot
@@purehockey ok thank you
I can get these or the 3s. What would you recommend?
Hi Alex, the Supreme M4 skates are the successor to the 3S skates with a bunch of great upgrades! Both are great skakes, but we would recommend the M4!
Will there be another goalie review anytime soon? I miss Lee and Wack
We're very grateful to have Lee & Wack on the team, but they're extremely busy (& helpful!) guys, so carving out time for videos can be difficult!
Anything in particular you'd like to see?
@@purehockey A Bauer Mach review, pads/glove/and blocker.
And whenever the next vapor product hits the market, that too.
@@purehockey Love the reviews though!
@@Icyskittlez457 Thanks for the feedback. We're hoping to get some reviews with them again at some point this year.
are these skates fully thermoformable?
Yes they are!
What is digicomp
Digi Composite is a more forgiving boot construction to promote flex within the skate. It provides step in comfort and an easy to use flex profile for the developing player.